Mighty Avengers #6 *Spoilers*

[firstmode]

What do you guys think? The issue is finally tying into New Avengers, yet it is still 2 months behind New Avengers Story Wise.

Finally, we see how Tony and Spiderwoman Meet up to talk about the Skrull thing, Which then leads into Illuminati 5, So this was a while behind that also.

I am glad there are 2 issues coming next month...

[Camron Amaya]

it was a good issue. ares got to shine a bit so yay.

but wtf @ sentrys wife...

[Red Lotus]

What do you guys think? The issue is finally tying into New Avengers, yet it is still 2 months behind New Avengers Story Wise.

Finally, we see how Tony and Spiderwoman Meet up to talk about the Skrull thing, Which then leads into Illuminati 5, So this was a while behind that also.

I am glad there are 2 issues coming next month...

I am glad that Cho is gone so we can get two issue next month.


it was a good issue. ares got to shine a bit so yay.

but wtf @ sentrys wife...

Skrull.

[Shyft]

anyone wanna give us a run-down?

[firstmode]

Yea, What was up with Sentry's wife? Was he out of it when he saw her dead?

WHAT! Skull? NO WAY! That would make Skrulls controlling the most powerful man on the earth!!

SKRULLS CONTROL THE MOST POWERFUL AND UNSTABLE MAN ON THE EARTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WE ARE TOAST!

[thronzeblast]

Man i really wish they would get rid of those damn thought bubbles.

[Shyft]

will someone please provide a write up! lol.

[thronzeblast]

Pym always come out looking like a chump its sad really.

[worstblogever]

If Lindy got replaced with a Skull... where's Skrullindy during WWH?

Or even regular LindY?

[StoneGold]

I've had this theory for a while that Lindy isn't anything more than a hard light construct held together by Sentry's subconscious.

[Ragnorok64]

Lindy's got to be a skrull because even if Sentry is crazy, Ultron isn't and since she doesn't have telepathy that I'm aware of she killed something in their bedroom. Also it seems Sentry must have been holding back or seomthing because when he finally got his hands on her and didn't care he literally tore her head off. Though even powered by a thermonuclear device, isn't punching out Sentry a good bit above Mr. Marvel?

[Pyro]

Lindy could be a Skrull...

But that wasn't the first thing that occurred to me. Instead I thought of when Sentry first showed up in New Avengers, convinced his wife was dead and ended up not being dead. Maybe this is following up on that, saying that Sentry wasn't completely crazy when we first met him, and that there's still more about him that we dont' know.

[dotdotdot]

I've had this theory for a while that Lindy isn't anything more than a hard light construct held together by Sentry's subconscious.

in true avengers fashion something like this is pretty likely

[Trey]

Ultron killed the Skrull and the current Lindy is in Sentry's mind.

Good issue. Exciting and tense. Wasp saves Ares, Everyone on the team had a little spotlight (except Black Widow)

Like most of Bendis stuff (most any 6 issue arc), it will read much better as a whole.

Still does not explain what happened to Ultron, will have to wait for Conquest to offer the explanation?

[Camron Amaya]

Lindy's got to be a skrull because even if Sentry is crazy, Ultron isn't and since she doesn't have telepathy that I'm aware of she killed something in their bedroom. Also it seems Sentry must have been holding back or seomthing because when he finally got his hands on her and didn't care he literally tore her head off. Though even powered by a thermonuclear device, isn't punching out Sentry a good bit above Mr. Marvel?

Well she cought him completly off guard and it's not like she took him out, she just knocked him away enough for the plan to be completed..

Sentry was obviosly in a complete blind rage on some warrior madness type stuff, so not suprising he tore her head right off, when before he was getting spanked.

[StoneGold]

in true avengers fashion something like this is pretty likely

If you want to hunt down threads related to the second Sentry mini, my theory towards the whole thing early on was that it was basically a physical manifestation of Sentry's psychosis.

[Shyft]

Would a hardlight construct bleed though? Lindy was pretty battered up...

this is really interesting! Just hope we get some answers relatively soonish rather than a 9 month draw out subplot.

[StoneGold]

Would a hardlight construct bleed though?

Why not? Depends on how realistic he built her.

[Camron Amaya]

Yea if he thinks he's seeing her dead then his mind would most likely see/create the blood too.

[worstblogever]

So... Lindy might be to the Sentry what children are to Scarlet Witch?

Imaginary, and drives them crazy.

Maybe he was hoping Lindy was dead so he could go shtup Crystal from the Inhumans.

[Pyro]

Anyone else notice C-3PO on the cover? That was weird.

I almost laughed when Wonderman said, "I'm just as strong as the Sentry" lol yeah right.

I did laugh when Hank said, "Hang around me long enough and you'll learn size doesn't matter." Perfect line for Ant-Man

[Last_Avenger]

does someone wanna maybe post a summary for those of us who ahven't read it yet please??

[StoneGold]

I almost laughed when Wonderman said, "I'm just as strong as the Sentry" lol yeah right.


That was his bit back in the day, constantly reminding people that he was almost as strong as Thor.

[bjtrdff]

Thank God the 17 requests for a summary have been ignored.

[Omega Alpha]

Very good issue. I call Skrull on the Sentry's wife. While I think it wouldn't make much sense, Wonder Man sounds Skrully on this issue.

[dabig2]

I'm 99.9% sure Wonder Man is a skrull. He's the most sure character right now where I can say i'd be completely expecting it.

Glad this arc finally ended. Time for it to catch up to the rest of the universe.

[Brian M.]

I'd say yes to Wonder Man aswell.

I think I'm gonna skip next arc. I already know what happens...I don't think I'll buy another issue until Secret Invasion starts.

[Omega Alpha]

I'd say yes to Wonder Man aswell.

I think I'm gonna skip next arc. I already know what happens...I don't think I'll buy another issue until Secret Invasion starts.

Next arc has Doom. You have to buy it, it's the law.

[drwho]

I liked Ares, but I thought this was a team superhero book. I felt like the characters were not utilized enough. Also pretty lame the way Ultron is taken out. Sentry's wife is probably a skrull now. Also Ms. Marvel is too b@tchy in this. Issue's virus battle felt a little too fast for me and pretty lame.

[Omega Alpha]

I liked Ares, but I thought this was a team superhero book. I felt like the characters were not utilized enough.

Huh? Sentry had a more important development than Ares, same as Wasp, Wonder Man and Ms. Marvel appeared a lot too, and even Henry Pym was very utilized. And Black Widow was used a lot on the previous issues.

[thronzeblast]

I hope this is the last time we have to see the back and forth between pym and wasp.I cant take anymore of those two I thought when he got together with tigra he was moving on.

[Kefky]

I think I'm gonna skip next arc. I already know what happens...I don't think I'll buy another issue until Secret Invasion starts.


If you're talking about the stuff shown in new avengers, that looks it'll only be the first issue of the arc... Judging from this month's solicits, there's a LOT more to it then that, including time travel.

Anyway, the way I read the Sentry scene is that he somehow healed Lindy... Although StoneGold's theory could make sense too. Either way, seems like Bendis set-up the scene on purpose in way to make us wonder what the hell happened.

Oh, and I don't get why Wonder-man could be a skrull. He hasn't done anything skrully at all in this arc.

[XPac]

Oh, and I don't get why Wonder-man could be a skrull. He hasn't done anything skrully at all in this arc.

It's the red saffari jacket.

[Will.S]

does someone wanna maybe post a summary for those of us who ahven't read it yet please??
- Hank Pym tells Ares and the SHIELD crew about his plan to unleash a virus inside of Ultron.

- Ares carries out the plan on his hover vehicle and goes inside of Ultron's mouth.

- He's attacked by anti-viruses built into Ultron as well as the ones that were a part of Tony's. Ultron Notices that his body has been invaded, Black Widow orders the Mighty Avengers to evacuate while Ares works from the inside.

- Hank Pym starts to talk about Tony's new powers and how they might be able to help him cope with major damage done by either the Avengers or Ultron himself.

- Meanwhile Sentry is pissed off at Ultron for killing Lindy and totally wails on him. Black Widow tries to contact Sentry to break off from the fight since it would endanger Ares's mission but Sentry doesn't have a communication device to make contact with. Simon tries to stop him but Sentry knocks him back. At this point Sentry is ripping off Ultron's head, Ares is still having trouble with the "antibodies".

- Ms. Marvel surprise attacks Sentry and knocks him away from Ultron using the built up power she absorbed from the nuke.

- Ares manages to get loose from the antibodies and plants the virus and initiaties it. Ultron becomes noticeably affected with bright red swelling over his face and body, at this point Ares is overwhelmed and gets swarmed by the anti-virus spiked objects. This is a big problem since Ultron is melting down while Ares is still inside.

- Wasp shrinks down and speeds inside of Ultron and rescues Ares, we also get a very brief look at true Ultron while he's transforming back into Tony. A bright light explosion happens and Tony's body is seen falling from the sky.

- Next page we see Tony waking up in front of the Avengers and is shown to be fully healed by the Extremis as Reed Richards and Hank examine him.

- Tony thanks them all for helping defeat Ultron and bringing him back. Hank tells Tony that Ultron was very close to achieving perfect A.I.. There's also a convo between Carol and Tony and she thinks that the team is coming together well for an inexperienced group (as a team not individually) and comments on Sentry being a serious wild card. She also notices that Tony had the weather satellites up there without telling her and she thinks that one day Tony's going to be "crucified" for trying to be king of the world.

- Back at the Avengers Tower Sentry is surprised to see Lindy alive and well even though he saw Ultron kill her. Meanwhile Carol and Simon meet on the roof, share a brief kiss and Simon tells her that she should utilize him more often since he's as strong as Sentry and Carol. I would imagine that Simon is referring to Sentry's instability but this is also a gloaty character trait common with Simon.

But he then tells her that the Avengers go before them as a couple.

- Hank and Janet share a brief conversation about Ultron and Hank's recent hook-up with Tigra. Hank and Janet aren't exactly on good terms but the thought balloons reveal that they still have feelings for each other even if they don't share it openly. At the end of the page we see image of Ultron on a computer screen with that ever present hamster smile on his face leading us to believe that he has survived and is still out there.

- Cue final scene. We see Tony sleeping but then we see a red figure lurking in the shadows, she starts speaking to Tony and reveals herself to be Spider-Woman with the Elektra skrull in tow telling Tony that they need to talk.

This all leads into the Illuminati #5 which kicks off Secret Invasion alongside Avengers: The Initiative and future Skrull reveals.

[TotalWorldDomination]

Next arc has Doom. You have to buy it, it's the law.

It's Doom's Law. And Doom's Law is like Doom's Love- Hard and Fast.

Huh? Sentry had a more important development than Ares, same as Wasp, Wonder Man and Ms. Marvel appeared a lot too, and even Henry Pym was very utilized. And Black Widow was used a lot on the previous issues.

I agree. I hope Hank gets a nod to be a member of the MA's- I loved wasp and his little exchange.


I liked this issue. I'm excited for the next one.

[XPac]

It's Doom's Law. And Doom's Law is like Doom's Love- Hard and Fast.



I agree. I hope Hank gets a nod to be a member of the MA's- I loved wasp and his little exchange.


I liked this issue. I'm excited for the next one.

I think Hank is a bit too busy in the Initiative to be an active member of the MA (though I suppose you could say the same thing about Stark).

[TotalWorldDomination]

I think Hank is a bit too busy in the Initiative to be an active member of the MA (though I suppose you could say the same thing about Stark).

well, as part of becoming director of SHEILD, stark got access to the Wolverine formula. I suppose he could share it with Hank ;)

[Toboe]

Anyone else notice C-3PO on the cover? That was weird.

LOL I hadn't noticed until now, nice eye! It's hilarious, but quite weird indeed.

I throughly enjoyed this arc, but the thought bubbles killed it a little for me, I find them incredibly annoying. The delays were worthly for the gorgeous art alone.

Tony Stark checking if "it was still there" after being told Ultron turned into a female was just perfect, as well as Pym's line about size. Bendis usually loses me with his genital obsessed humor but this was spot on.

I'm curious as to what the Sentry did to his wife when he touched her with his glowing hand a few issues back that now she's alive and well.

[XPac]

LOL I hadn't noticed until now, nice eye! It's hilarious, but quite weird indeed.

I throughly enjoyed this arc, but the thought bubbles killed it a little for me, I find them incredibly annoying. The delays were worthly for the gorgeous art alone.

Tony Stark checking if "it was still there" after being told Ultron turned into a female was just perfect, as well as Pym's line about size. Bendis usually loses me with his genital obsessed humor but this was spot on.

I'm curious as to what the Sentry did to his wife when he touched her with his glowing hand a few issues back that now she's alive and well.

Well, they threw in Godzilla in the first issue, so I guess other guest spots isn't terribly suprising. I'll miss that in the book if that ends after Cho is gone.

[bulbasteve]

Since Cho is listed as a "storyteller" and worked on the plot IIRC I'm kinda worried about the next arc....what if this turns into the crap that is NA!?

[Dagger]

I'm not loving this book as much as I'd like to. I think it's Bendis' dialogue, and slow moving plots. The book is fine, and I love it, I just don't loooooooooove it. Anywhoo, as I'm sooo poor I can't even afford to go to the doctor's right now, I can't wait until I get this issue.

[Absolut_Fresh]

I'm not loving this book as much as I'd like to. I think it's Bendis' dialogue, and slow moving plots. The book is fine, and I love it, I just don't loooooooooove it. Anywhoo, as I'm sooo poor I can't even afford to go to the doctor's right now, I can't wait until I get this issue.

i dunno, i kinda looooooooooved this issue. i feel like it finally lived up to a classic Avengers Ultron type story, esp the little Ultron cameo at the end on the computer panel, saying "ill be back bitches!"

i loved each character was given a little spotlight time, esp Jan. it was high time for her to crap or get off the toliet and i think she finally made a move. i disagree with Carol being to bitchy..she is supposed to be in charge, i think her issues with Sentry are very valid and Tony needs to be checked. Sentry's wife is totally a Skrull! and i hope Hank continues to be in the supporting cast, i like the guy despite always being written as a total putz.

overall, im glad MA is finally getting on its feet, i am excited to see where it goes....

[Dr. Chaos]

I hope this is the last time we have to see the back and forth between pym and wasp.I cant take anymore of those two I thought when he got together with tigra he was moving on.
I can relate.

I swear, if Bendis ends up putting Wasp and Pym back together...ugh.

Seriousy, who wants to see that?

(put your hand down)

what if this turns into the crap that is NA!?
By crap, do you mean alot more readable?

[Arilou]

I liked this issue. The art is far superior to MA, and I love the thought-bubbles.

Although compared to what he's doing in Conquest, SheTron came across as a bit of a wuss.

[bad trotsky]

Pym is good as a support charecter.

[DjMichael691]

LOL I hadn't noticed until now, nice eye! It's hilarious, but quite weird indeed.


Ditto :D


Nice to have this story finished and catching up to the rest of the world.

[KetchFrayz]

Anyway, the way I read the Sentry scene is that he somehow healed Lindy

that's what i thought too :confused:

[Brian M.]

Since Cho is listed as a "storyteller" and worked on the plot IIRC I'm kinda worried about the next arc....what if this turns into the crap that is NA!?

Then that would be good b/c NA is one of the best titles around.

[worstblogever]

I can relate.

I swear, if Bendis ends up putting Wasp and Pym back together...ugh.

Seriousy, who wants to see that?


People who don't think about the spousal abuse story much... and people who really want to see more of them using Pym particles in a sexual context, like they did when they went to Vegas that one issue of old Avengers, pre-Dissassembled.

[edhopper]

Loved the Cho art. But seriously, the story could have easily been done in 2 issues. In fact the end seemed anti-climatic to me because the build up was so long.
Come on, how original is the whole computer virus thing?:rolleyes:

[Arilou]

Loved the Cho art. But seriously, the story could have easily been done in 2 issues. In fact the end seemed anti-climatic to me because the build up was so long.


That's Bendis in a nutshell, honestly.

[XPac]

Loved the Cho art. But seriously, the story could have easily been done in 2 issues. In fact the end seemed anti-climatic to me because the build up was so long.
Come on, how original is the whole computer virus thing?:rolleyes:

I virus isn't exactly original... but given the particular situation it was necessary. They could have had Sentry just smash the hell out of Ultron (towards the end there I honestly think he could have), but that wouldn't have done Tony any favors. They needed a more subtle sollution.

For this it worked, because it allowed several people to get a bit more spotlight too.

[TotalWorldDomination]

That's Bendis in a nutshell, honestly.

Bendis + Huge Delays = Anti-Climax

Still liked the issue though

[XPac]

Bendis + Huge Delays = Anti-Climax

Still liked the issue though

I agree. Though Bendis as we all know is a decompressed writer, having delays like this kills any kind of momentum a story like this can have. Heck, at this point we even have a pretty good idea how the next story is going to go... the delays make it impossible to really feel the level of satisfaction we should regardless of the writing (which I honestly thought wasn't too bad by Bendis standards in terms of pacing).

[roundman]

I throughly enjoyed this arc, but the thought bubbles killed it a little for me, I find them incredibly annoying.

Seriously? I really like them; they added flavor and levity to otherwise unexceptional dialogue. I thought that they helped improve an otherwise crappy storyline. Without them, IMO, the whole arc wold've been pretty boring.

[XPac]

Bendis usage of thought bubbles are a bit experimental in how they are used, and clearly not to everyone's taste.

Myself... I like them. I think on occasion they are funny. And they really humanize a lot of the characters. As big, brave and powerful as these larger than life heroes are... deep down they can be as silly, stupid, or as perverted as we are. To me that makes them more appealing.

[streator]

does anyone have a scan of the page with sentry and lindy? it sounds... weird.

[roundman]

Myself... I like them. I think on occasion they are funny. And they really humanize a lot of the characters. As big, brave and powerful as these larger than life heroes are... deep down they can be as silly, stupid, or as perverted as we are. To me that makes them more appealing.

I agree. The thought bubbles humanize the characters and are often entertaining. They also add depth to the characters. We get glances into their personalities. They become something more than just cardboard cutouts.

[Will.S]

I can relate.

I swear, if Bendis ends up putting Wasp and Pym back together...ugh.

Seriousy, who wants to see that?

(put your hand down)
Bendis mentioned their relationship as "fascinating" and yet very damaging at the same time. As much as they try to date other people, they still have feelings towards each other and I'll admit that's pretty interesting. Janet even found it sad that Hank went out with Tigra although it seems like Bendis is laying it thick with the other characters disliking Tigra's more "uninhibited" nature.

[XPac]

I'm okay with Jan and Hank having unresolved issues as long as it's not forced down our throats too hard.

There's no point in any writer deciding to have Hank at least move on in any kind of decisive way, because it's a given that sooner or later it'll come back again. His Jan issues defining elements of his character... that'll never be completely buried.

At this point, Hank and Jan aren't a couple you can really root for (or at least I can't say that). But they're like a car wreck... no matter how messy it is, you can't help but slow down to watch in utter facisnation.

[Toboe]

From the previous issue:

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/8944/ma5dcp0004hc5.jpg

I believe the Sentry somehow brought his wife back to life here, and apparently so does he, since he comments on that this issue. Maybe he wasn't that insane when he was first introduced, and brought her back to life then as well.

So, as interesting as it would be if the Sentry's wife was a skrull, giving them the power to contro lthe most powerful superhuman on Earth, I don't think it's the case.

[Ragnorok64]

From the previous issue:

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/8944/ma5dcp0004hc5.jpg

I believe the Sentry somehow brought his wife back to life here, and apparently so does he, since he comments on that this issue. Maybe he wasn't that insane when he was first introduced, and brought her back to life then as well.

So, as interesting as it would be if the Sentry's wife was a skrull, giving them the power to contro lthe most powerful superhuman on Earth, I don't think it's the case.

What happened to the blood on the walls?

[Slyfer]

Sentry can resuurect the dead....nice

ULTRON was just F@$^ING around lol. The rest of the issue was mildly entertaining.

[Will.S]

From the previous issue:

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/8944/ma5dcp0004hc5.jpg

I believe the Sentry somehow brought his wife back to life here, and apparently so does he, since he comments on that this issue. Maybe he wasn't that insane when he was first introduced, and brought her back to life then as well.

So, as interesting as it would be if the Sentry's wife was a skrull, giving them the power to contro lthe most powerful superhuman on Earth, I don't think it's the case.
You know with so much time between issues I almost forget what happened in the last month so thanks for the refresh.

That certainly looks like healing although I don't think Lindy's a skrull since she never reverted back to skrull form but it's hard to say what's really going on there. StoneGold's theory looks to be the closest in that she's a part of Robert's imagination.

[Slyfer]

Also there was one hilarious thought bubble, had me lol , I just can't remember which one is it. Oh yeah and Tony checking for his twig and berries when he heard he was turned into a girl LOL.

[Will.S]

By the way, do the character names popping up in every issue like in the scan above bother anyone?

I get that it's to know their names in an accessible fashion but it seems excessive given that the first issue made it clear who they were. If anything I think Brad Meltzer could use this technique for his JLA run.

[TotalWorldDomination]

I agree. Though Bendis as we all know is a decompressed writer, having delays like this kills any kind of momentum a story like this can have. Heck, at this point we even have a pretty good idea how the next story is going to go... the delays make it impossible to really feel the level of satisfaction we should regardless of the writing (which I honestly thought wasn't too bad by Bendis standards in terms of pacing).

Yeah, if you re-read the arc from the start, it's pretty damn good. the probelm was this book was supposed to be a cornerstone of the Post-CW universe and the delays not only robbed it of that, but robbed it of the urgency that it had during the arc.

Bendis usage of thought bubbles are a bit experimental in how they are used, and clearly not to everyone's taste.

Myself... I like them. I think on occasion they are funny. And they really humanize a lot of the characters. As big, brave and powerful as these larger than life heroes are... deep down they can be as silly, stupid, or as perverted as we are. To me that makes them more appealing.

I agree. I loved the "Say something Fury would say" repetition. Of course the thought bubbles also make me think Ms. Marvel or Wonder Man are skrulls, but I think that was the intention.

I'm okay with Jan and Hank having unresolved issues as long as it's not forced down our throats too hard.

There's no point in any writer deciding to have Hank at least move on in any kind of decisive way, because it's a given that sooner or later it'll come back again. His Jan issues defining elements of his character... that'll never be completely buried.

At this point, Hank and Jan aren't a couple you can really root for (or at least I can't say that). But they're like a car wreck... no matter how messy it is, you can't help but slow down to watch in utter facisnation.

You put it perfectly with the Train wreck argument. I'm not so keen on them as a happy couple, but I love Hank and Jan's issues. they obviously care for eachother, but also can't stand eachother. Having them in the same book is a real treat.

[jonwes]

Count me among those who really enjoy the thought bubbles. I often find them amusing and they seem to have taken away some of the stuttery dialogue Bendis used to do where everyone cut everyone else off.

[Camron Amaya]

If it turns out he actualy ressurected her ....f%*k this character for life lmao I'll avoid it like the plague.

[TotalWorldDomination]

If it turns out he actualy ressurected her ....f%*k this character for life lmao I'll avoid it like the plague.

I wouldn't mind if he resurrected her. He's supposed to be of God-Like thor-level power already... however I agree with some of the posters above. She's probably a mental construct of his, like the Void.

[Tobias Drake]

I'm with the construct theory. I suspect she serves a subconscious purpose in his mind of helping him piece things back together; Bob knows he's screwed up. I think he created her to try and deal with that.

[Shyft]

Got the issue today, really liked it. Still not a fan of the thought bubbles, but oh well. Shame to see Cho go, but this book is possibly one of the most important to keep on time. in my opinion Artist should have been swapped as soon as it became apparent delays were going to occur. but oh well.

Also thanks for the scan of last issue, i didnt even notice Sentry's hand glowing last time. interesting...

[Kefky]

I actually like the idea of the Sentry having all these powers that even he doesn't understand or remember himself. Could be interesting if Bendis goes down that road.

[StoneGold]

If it turns out he actualy ressurected her ....f%*k this character for life lmao I'll avoid it like the plague.

Ummm... you say this while at the same general time, the guy in your avatar is trying to resurrect his wife, and doing a semi-decent job of it?


I'm still willing to bet that that while yes, he technically resurrected her, he was the one giving her "life" in the first place. Which would really explain when she was cheating on him. Really, if you were married to a man who could theoretically blow up the earth, would you bang around on him? Would you be that suicidal? But if she was just projecting on his own negative self-worth, it would all make sense.

[jackolover]

This book reads like the ending of Civil War #7. (Not literally, the structure of ending and, the aftermath sequences). The epilogue snatches were a kind of summing up relationships, and the end just closed out the fight.

Tony's eventual reappearance was so flimsily explained, it hardly was neccessary. They could have just told us - 'Well, Tonys back'.

My biggest beef with the epilogue was the kiss sequence with Carol and Simon. I thought Carols kiss in Ms Marvel was just a tactical ploy and had no emotional significance, and now they kiss all the time? I'm stumped. Carol hardly even feels a connection, and Simon is rambling.

[Bulky Brent]

I actually like the idea of the Sentry having all these powers that even he doesn't understand or remember himself. Could be interesting if Bendis goes down that road.
Or perhaps he just got upgraded who knows. Seems like a great addition to his abilities though.

[1WEBHEAD]

Eh, this issue would've been better if it wasn't delayed. . .

Cho's art is AMAZING as always, it's a shame it takes a long time to get an issue from him out though. . .

I LOL'd at the part where Wonder-Man said he was as Strong as the Sentry.

Maybe he should re-read WWH where he gets punked by the Hulk's crew. It's pretty sad that when you have your logo/name displayed, you're getting b*+ch slapped by Sunshine Sentry.

The thought bubbles were cute. . .after issue #1.

Tony's reaction after hearing he was turned to a she was classic Tony.

Am I the only one that found it wierd that reed had his finger on a picture of Tony, right on his lips. . .I know I'm just nitpicking to be nitpick but Reed's face is . . .questionable. . .

But enough about the bad stuff, let's look on the bright side! The art was phenomenal and worth the 3 bucks by itself, it was kinda nice to see Wasp and Hank talk about Tigra, I really like the use of sound effects, and I liked the coloring and . . .The Order came out on the same day!

I liked the moment Ms. Marvel shared with Tony and her private thoughts about Tony, but I thought the Wonder Man part with her was boring.

And I personally think Sentry's wife is skrull and Sunshine has no super secret healing powers.

Why?

Well in issue #5 the was alot of blood on the wall, ALOT of blood. In this issue, the walls look pretty clean to me. I could be wrong and it could be just a "blooper". ..

I don't know. . .

4/5

[Camron Amaya]

I wouldn't mind if he resurrected her. He's supposed to be of God-Like thor-level power already... however I agree with some of the posters above. She's probably a mental construct of his, like the Void.

Healing her I could buy. But flat out resurrecting dead people, way too retarded. He drank a serum, he's not the Beyonder, he's a superhero in the most traditional sense.

Ummm... you say this while at the same general time, the guy in your avatar is trying to resurrect his wife, and doing a semi-decent job of it?
.

Yea a MAGICAL being empowered by GODS, who's trying to resurrect a wife who also had MAGICAL powers from Gods, by using things like the Lazarus Pit and etc.

Sentry is a superhero, not a God, he drank a serum. He's not magical in any sense and he's not using any magical objects or locations or courses. If you really wonna compare this, it would be like Superman touching Lois and resurrecting her. Seriosly. Stupid.

[Tobias Drake]

If you really wonna compare this, it would be like Superman touching Lois and resurrecting her. Seriosly. Stupid.

Honestly, that really wouldn't surprise me if Superman did.

[Orion101]

If you really wonna compare this, it would be like Superman touching Lois and resurrecting her. Seriosly. Stupid.
I take it you didn't see the movie "Brainiac Attacks" if so then you should consdider yourself lucky.

[Dr. Chaos]

I'm hoping for Skrullduggery with Lindy, not so big on Sentry doing the Jesus thing.

We get enough of that crap with Superman.

[StoneGold]

Sentry is a superhero, not a God, he drank a serum. He's not magical in any sense and he's not using any magical objects or locations or courses. If you really wonna compare this, it would be like Superman touching Lois and resurrecting her. Seriosly. Stupid.

Further irony, misspelling the word immediately before stupid. But that's besides the point. I am still willing to bet that even if Lindy isn't a Skrull, resurrection isn't exactly the right word for what happened. We know Sentry can make hard light manifestations of things from his subconscious. My only question, assuming she's not a Skrull, is if she was ever truly alive to begin with?

[overcomebyfumes]

I called Lindy as a skrull back when Secret Invasion was first announced... now I'm not so sure. She definately exists outside the Sentry's mind, because we've seen other people interacting with her.

If she's some kind of construct, maybe Ulton wasn't trying to kill her, but to infect her. She could start spitting out baby Ultrons at any moment now.




I hope Hank Pym goes after the Hood with a vengence now, after the whole Tigra beatdown thing.


pax.

[HepOne]

it would be like Superman touching Lois and resurrecting her. Seriosly. Stupid.

Or kissing her erasing her memory ;) stupid

[Mitchel]

My biggest beef with the epilogue was the kiss sequence with Carol and Simon. I thought Carols kiss in Ms Marvel was just a tactical ploy and had no emotional significance, and now they kiss all the time? I'm stumped. Carol hardly even feels a connection, and Simon is rambling.

Not true, Carol & Simon go way back. They started flirting with each other since Ms. Marvel's first guest stars in the Avengers and when she joined it continued. In Ms. Marvel Carol has been dreaming of having Simon in her bed; rambling? I don't think so.



Sentry is a superhero, not a God, he drank a serum. He's not magical in any sense and he's not using any magical objects or locations or courses. If you really wonna compare this, it would be like Superman touching Lois and resurrecting her. Seriosly. Stupid.

I find it very wacky that a serum developed in the 40's for Captain America could give a man god level power. Even my favorite Wonder Man whose origin is closer to Hulk I have always thought it would make a better explanation to introduce something like Zemo trying to genetically match his allys Executioner & Enchantress and getting really lucky. That Sentry origin has to be retconned otherwise it sounds very stupid.

[Camron Amaya]

Further irony, misspelling the word immediately before stupid. But that's besides the point. I am still willing to bet that even if Lindy isn't a Skrull, resurrection isn't exactly the right word for what happened. We know Sentry can make hard light manifestations of things from his subconscious. My only question, assuming she's not a Skrull, is if she was ever truly alive to begin with?

Yea, spelling mistakes on online forums are just OMFG. I could really give a f**k. Nice way to totaly ignore someone making a good point.


I find it very wacky that a serum developed in the 40's for Captain America could give a man god level power. Even my favorite Wonder Man whose origin is closer to Hulk I have always thought it would make a better explanation to introduce something like Zemo trying to genetically match his allys Executioner & Enchantress and getting really lucky. That Sentry origin has to be retconned otherwise it sounds very stupid.

I am in total agreement with you :)

[Sion]

The issue was meh to me.
I think the inner monologues/thoughts are definitely overdone...

Art was great though.

[Dr. Chaos]

People may have been critical of Bendis' use of thought balloons but it'll all have been worth it once he unleashes them on Doom.

And well, if he doesn't, then he's just being cruel.

"Wait? The Sentry, Iron-Man and a God Of War? Goddammit, how is this fair to Doom?"

[almach238]

I find it very wacky that a serum developed in the 40's for Captain America could give a man god level power. Even my favorite Wonder Man whose origin is closer to Hulk I have always thought it would make a better explanation to introduce something like Zemo trying to genetically match his allys Executioner & Enchantress and getting really lucky. That Sentry origin has to be retconned otherwise it sounds very stupid.

The serum that gave sentry his powers was made long, long after the 40's, and was considerably stronger. Not that I'm defending it if he did indeed resurrect Lindy, but I'd be curious to see how it plays out. (I prefer the hard light construct theory myself, though the Skrull thing could work great if it was well written)

[xmanson]

Gooed ending to an arc, but it still feel alike 3 issues longer than it should have been.

And now that i don't read the thought ballon anymore, the dialogue reads much better.

[jpk]

I was ambivalent about the finale, but I'm going to go back and read the arc as a whole. I have a feeling it will read better as a serial uninterrupted by the memory gaps I had of the plot as a result of the delays.

On an unrelated note, now I want a Marvel Legends Ares figure really badly. ;)

[bjtrdff]

I also vote for the hard light construct. It makes the most sense both with his given history, and in terms of setting up a new future story. Plus, if it is a Skrull, then the light over her face thing is just a ridiculous and stupid random panel. The 'she's made by his mind' thing makes perfect sense.



That said, her being a Skrull could be a nice piece of writing if done properly. For example, a skrull worker in Avengers tower sees what's going on and takes advantage of it, immediately occupying an incredibly powerful position by accident.

[bulbasteve]

I also vote for the hard light construct. It makes the most sense both with his given history, and in terms of setting up a new future story. Plus, if it is a Skrull, then the light over her face thing is just a ridiculous and stupid random panel. The 'she's made by his mind' thing makes perfect sense.

But...what happened to the original body...or is it like...a meat puppet....ewww

[Beast]

Maybe the Sentry isn't who we've been led to believe.

If Avengers: The Illuminati ties into plans for stuff that's upcoming, such as the Skrull Invasion... who's to say the Sentry isn't actually the Beyonder? Which would explain his wife coming back from the dead. That chapter of A: TI seemed overly random if it doesn't have some future signifigance. ;)

[Joe Acro]

The heroes win, Sentry showcases his insanity (with his anger and believing his wife to be alive again--at least I hope his insanity is what explains the latter one), and Ultron lives on to go rule the Phalanx. All in all, not a bad read. Pretty quick and easy to follow. Cho's art didn't bother me much this issue, but I'm not sure why.

The thought bubbles between or even within sentences are still annoying, though. It leads to some out of character moments (like Wonder Man thinking they're all crazy for trying this plan and the mental exchange between Jan and Hank).

But it was at least better than I was expecting, so that's good.

[TotalWorldDomination]

Maybe the Sentry isn't who we've been led to believe.

If Avengers: The Illuminati ties into plans for stuff that's upcoming, such as the Skrull Invasion... who's to say the Sentry isn't actually the Beyonder? Which would explain his wife coming back from the dead. That chapter of A: TI seemed overly random if it doesn't have some future signifigance. ;)

If the sentry is the beyonder... well I don't know how I feel about that. I suppose I'd be happy cause it would finaly mean an end to those endless "Thor vs. Sentry" threads. No arguing that thor could beat the beyonder...

[Will.S]

On an unrelated note, now I want a Marvel Legends Ares figure really badly. ;)
I think once we get the Sentry and Ronin Marvel Legends figures, all will be right with the Legends toy line.

[Dr. Chaos]

If the sentry is the beyonder... well I don't know how I feel about that. I suppose I'd be happy cause it would finaly mean an end to those endless "Thor vs. Sentry" threads. No arguing that thor could beat the beyonder...
After WWH, is that even an argument anymore?

If he can't finish the Hulk, seems like Thor would be out of the question.

[jackolover]

Not true, Carol & Simon go way back. They started flirting with each other since Ms. Marvel's first guest stars in the Avengers and when she joined it continued. In Ms. Marvel Carol has been dreaming of having Simon in her bed; rambling? I don't think so.


No. I think there was something totally wrong with that whole conversation and activity (kissing). It felt like the person in the body of Simon, didn't know how to act like Simon. He acted like he was trying to be like Wonder Man, but was no where near how Simon would behave. You say Simon has been like this since for ever. But in the Ms Marvel book, he never showed that kind of detail in his logic, when dealing with Carol. He sounded like a 12 year old kid.

[Mitchel]

Maybe the Sentry isn't who we've been led to believe.

If Avengers: The Illuminati ties into plans for stuff that's upcoming, such as the Skrull Invasion... who's to say the Sentry isn't actually the Beyonder? Which would explain his wife coming back from the dead. That chapter of A: TI seemed overly random if it doesn't have some future signifigance. ;)

If the Sentry turned out to be the Beyonder that would be really neat.

No. I think there was something totally wrong with that whole conversation and activity (kissing). It felt like the person in the body of Simon, didn't know how to act like Simon. He acted like he was trying to be like Wonder Man, but was no where near how Simon would behave. You say Simon has been like this since for ever. But in the Ms Marvel book, he never showed that kind of detail in his logic, when dealing with Carol. He sounded like a 12 year old kid.

I don't see your reasoning here other than to push the theory that Simon is a skrull. I think of it more like a lack of coordination between writers. For one thing Carol would have acted out her surprise by being straight with him like..."woha..what thing are you talking about Simon, we are just good friends you are misunderstanding". Carol is not one to stay quiet unless she suspects Simon and for her response & behavior in her own book we know that is not the case.

[Will.S]

After WWH, is that even an argument anymore?

If he can't finish the Hulk, seems like Thor would be out of the question.
That fight was nonsense and badly written.

My only way of rationalizing it? Sentry wanted to blow some sh*t up.

[XPac]

After WWH, is that even an argument anymore?

If he can't finish the Hulk, seems like Thor would be out of the question.

Thor has had his share of bad showings against Hulk too (and weaker versions for that matter).

I don't this agree that Thor can't take Hulk, and I won't even bother touching the Thor vs Sentry debate. But for a variety or reasons, I would argue that WWH doesn't decisively say anything about whether any of the three can beat the other.

[overcomebyfumes]

If the sentry is the beyonder... well I don't know how I feel about that. I suppose I'd be happy cause it would finaly mean an end to those endless "Thor vs. Sentry" threads. No arguing that thor could beat the beyonder...

Didn't the Beyonder die when the Annihilation wave broke through in the first Annihilation? The Beyonder was a prisoner in the Crunch and can't be the Sentry, unless there's more than one of them.



pax.

[XPac]

Didn't the Beyonder die when the Annihilation wave broke through in the first Annihilation? The Beyonder was a prisoner in the Crunch and can't be the Sentry, unless there's more than one of them.



pax.


I think killing the Beyonder's moral form was destroyed. But Thanos said Beyonders body should be kept alive and brain dead... if the body dies, the Beyonder would essence would go free again.

Course, lord only knows how that factors into what Bendis did in Illuminati with Beyonder, if it matters at all.

[mikekerr3]

Didn't the Beyonder die when the Annihilation wave broke through in the first Annihilation? The Beyonder was a prisoner in the Crunch and can't be the Sentry, unless there's more than one of them.



pax.

At the Beyonderslevel of power there is no reason he could/t be lieing brain dead and be the Sentry. Reality is just a concept for him it doesn't limit him. If he doesn't like it he can create a new one.

[Tobias March]

Not a bad idea, in terms of predicting what Bendis is thinking. Remember the Civil War issue with the Sentry up on the moon visiting the Inhumans? What if he unconsciously remember being born on Attilan as the Beyonder, thanks to the Illuminati retcon?

[mikekerr3]

They even left a opening for a follow up... what if Nova, the Beyonder, or any of the Cosmis powerhouses came home. Nova for one might show a little PTSD after two back to back wars and seek revenge. The gut took out hundreds of Kree sentries in minutes.

The Beyonder comes back. His playmates are murdered. No more earth.

The High Evolutionary comes home, decides that the human race is so stupid it needs a reset.

Thor sees whats happening, the reighn starts again with an absolutely ruthless Thor.

[Porcelain]

Tend to agree with Sentry's wife not being real and her 'state of being' going far beyond this issue.

Scuse me if this has been covered already but...wasn't there an article or some such that said the bubbles were skrull clues? Which would mean (if I'm remember rightly) that...

the absence of bubbles = skrull and Ares had no bubbles this issue?

[Ragnorok64]

Tend to agree with Sentry's wife not being real and her 'state of being' going far beyond this issue.

Scuse me if this has been covered already but...wasn't there an article or some such that said the bubbles were skrull clues? Which would mean (if I'm remember rightly) that...

the absence of bubbles = skrull and Ares had no bubbles this issue?

Yeah, but why would a Skrull want to impersonate Ares? Unless they had advanced knowledge that he'd be drudged up to be on the Avengers. I mean in continuity, he wasn't doing anything other than working construction till that day.

[Porcelain]

I have absolutely no clue - which is just as much a clue I have of whether he's been bubbled in another issue - though doubtless if I writer wished it so they'd come up with something. Am I imaging the bubbles (or lack thereof) clue though?

[jackolover]

I don't see your reasoning here other than to push the theory that Simon is a skrull. I think of it more like a lack of coordination between writers. For one thing Carol would have acted out her surprise by being straight with him like..."woha..what thing are you talking about Simon, we are just good friends you are misunderstanding". Carol is not one to stay quiet unless she suspects Simon and for her response & behavior in her own book we know that is not the case.

Lack of coordination by the writers, mostly. I felt uncomfortable with what Simon told Carol, and even that she didn't comment on it was a bit suspect too. I couldn't see the leap of a relationship coming from the Ms Marvel book, to Simon making relationship rules, in the MA book. I think it shows conceit on Simons part, and I couldn't understand Carol letting that go by. it felt so infantile. (Are you listening Bendis? Maybe you're translating your Ultimate baby Peter and MJ dialogue into these two adults).

[Dr. Chaos]

I would argue that WWH doesn't decisively say anything about whether any of the three can beat the other.
Am I missing something though?

My WWH tie in quota is low but it seems like he plowed through everybody on earth that wasn't named Thor.

[dabig2]

Am I missing something though?

My WWH tie in quota is low but it seems like he plowed through everybody on earth that wasn't named Thor.

There was Juggs, who proved a little tough. But yeah, he steamrolls mostly everyone. Sentry gave a great fight, but if he keeps getting one-shotted the hell off-screen, then his status will drop.

[Camron Amaya]

Well....if things were logical probly both Sentry and Thor could eat Hulk's face off thanks to all their other powers....but since they never are logical it turns into a fist fight and there....anyone could win. Thor could just teleport him into a black hole or something Lol

[myslead]

I just got to read the issue and Tony's face when they announce him that Ultron took over his body is priceless lol­

[Sabrinaset]

I think once we get the Sentry and Ronin Marvel Legends figures, all will be right with the Legends toy line.

Uhm ... there IS a Marvel Legends Sentry action figure already.

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f336/sabrinaset/sentry.jpg

[Will.S]

Uhm ... there IS a Marvel Legends Sentry action figure already.

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f336/sabrinaset/sentry.jpg
Wow, I can't believe I said Sentry especially considering that I have that figure.

I meant Ares.

[Will.S]

Double post.

[LordKaos]

I don't understand how two books written by the same author have continuity issues.

How could the Mighty Avengers have faced off against the New Avengers?

[Will.S]

I don't understand how two books written by the same author have continuity issues.

How could the Mighty Avengers have faced off against the New Avengers?
I still have no idea. I can only rationalize that with skrulls but it would make even less sense.

Not that it matters regarding this story though, Mighty Avengers still rocks as a standalone.

[Tobias Drake]

They even left a opening for a follow up... what if Nova, the Beyonder, or any of the Cosmis powerhouses came home. Nova for one might show a little PTSD after two back to back wars and seek revenge. The gut took out hundreds of Kree sentries in minutes.

The Beyonder comes back. His playmates are murdered. No more earth.

The High Evolutionary comes home, decides that the human race is so stupid it needs a reset.

Thor sees whats happening, the reighn starts again with an absolutely ruthless Thor.

Nova's been home. He didn't stay long.

[Dermie]

Lack of coordination by the writers, mostly. I felt uncomfortable with what Simon told Carol, and even that she didn't comment on it was a bit suspect too. I couldn't see the leap of a relationship coming from the Ms Marvel book, to Simon making relationship rules, in the MA book. I think it shows conceit on Simons part, and I couldn't understand Carol letting that go by. it felt so infantile.

I wouldn't call it "making rules"--Simon was simply calling Carol on her behaviour about him since becoming team leader. Unfortunately, the huge gap between issues makes it unclear what Simon's talking about since she didn't do it in this particular issue. But if you look back over the rest of the arc, on several occassions Carol keeps Simon back and sends Sentry in his place. Simon is just pointing out that kind of over-protective behaviour is both unnecessary (given his strength and invulnerability) and inappropriate for her as team leader. Carol was letting her personal feelings for Simon interfere with her job, and he was pointing it out to her. I wouldn't call that infantile at all--he was pointing out a problem before it became too serious.

[Beast]

I don't understand how two books written by the same author have continuity issues.

How could the Mighty Avengers have faced off against the New Avengers?
I thought Bendis cleared it up. The group was unofficially together chasing the New Avengers, but decided afterwards to officially form up as Avengers after that fact. It's a cop-out, but that's the official stance.

[Kefky]

All Bendis said that both teams are on different times, or whatever.


In the end, he just doesn't really care much about these things.

[mikekerr3]

Nova's been home. He didn't stay long.

The scenario was if the thugs Stark works for had pulled of Wide awake. Nova left instead of fighting as he had bigger responsibilities than the whole trivial CW . He showed great control in dealing with the Thunderbolts. I doubt he would show the same restraint after finding out about mass mudrer of the Meta's. When he was here he was a Level 12 that seems to put him at the level of Thor and above the Surfer. He also has more combat experience in an all out conflict than anyone of the avengers who survive. Only Cap had seen anything as intense as a real unlimited war. The Thunderbolts would not have lasted seconds againt a guy who could take down hundreds of sentries at a time, neither would Shield.

Nova not the kid he was, he's a powerhouse.

[Monty_Cristo]

The scenario was if the thugs Stark works for had pulled of Wide awake. Nova left instead of fighting as he had bigger responsibilities than the whole trivial CW . He showed great control in dealing with the Thunderbolts. I doubt he would show the same restraint after finding out about mass mudrer of the Meta's. When he was here he was a Level 12 that seems to put him at the level of Thor and above the Surfer. He also has more combat experience in an all out conflict than anyone of the avengers who survive. Only Cap had seen anything as intense as a real unlimited war. The Thunderbolts would not have lasted seconds againt a guy who could take down hundreds of sentries at a time, neither would Shield.

Nova not the kid he was, he's a powerhouse.

Sentry would still eat him alive. it's what Sentry does. heck, Carol could probably absorb alot of his energy and match him (temporarily) with her Binary powers.

[mikekerr3]

Sentry would still eat him alive. it's what Sentry does. heck, Carol could probably absorb alot of his energy and match him (temporarily) with her Binary powers.

This was after wideawake, if you read my post. Those to would be as dead cap.

You are right about the Sentry and probably Ms Marvel but they would be corpses.

[Monty_Cristo]

This was after wideawake, if you read my post. Those to would be as dead cap.

You are right about the Sentry and probably Ms Marvel but they would be corpses.

what the heck is Wideawake? :) :confused:

[mikekerr3]

what the heck is Wideawake? :) :confused:

The Goverments plan to control the metta's that Stark was supposedly protecting everyone from. The MU us goverments "final Solution" to superheros

[Camron Amaya]

The scenario was if the thugs Stark works for had pulled of Wide awake. Nova left instead of fighting as he had bigger responsibilities than the whole trivial CW . He showed great control in dealing with the Thunderbolts. I doubt he would show the same restraint after finding out about mass mudrer of the Meta's. When he was here he was a Level 12 that seems to put him at the level of Thor and above the Surfer. He also has more combat experience in an all out conflict than anyone of the avengers who survive. Only Cap had seen anything as intense as a real unlimited war. The Thunderbolts would not have lasted seconds againt a guy who could take down hundreds of sentries at a time, neither would Shield.

Nova not the kid he was, he's a powerhouse.


Is there some offical system that says Surfer is below "class 12" and that explains these "classes". Cuz if there is I missed it..



Sentry would still eat him alive.

You really say it like it's a fact when it's the farthest thing from it.

[Shyft]

You really say it like it's a fact when it's the farthest thing from it.

furthest thing from it is that Nova would eat Sentry alive. and thats just not true.

[Monty_Cristo]

You really say it like it's a fact when it's the farthest thing from it.

i don't even like Sentry and i can acknowledge that he's at the top of the stack. he's someone who could slap fight w/ the Hulk. the Void, an extension of Robert, could basically kill every being on the planet. knowing this, why is that such a bold statement?

[mikekerr3]

Is there some offical system that says Surfer is below "class 12" and that explains these "classes". Cuz if there is I missed it..


http://www.comicvine.com/marvel-power-rankings/42221/


Thats the closest I can find, narvel used to have classes like this on thier webpage. The Level 12 comes from when Nova arrived back on earth and shield noticed.

Thor is Three tiers below and Iron Man 4.

[mikekerr3]

i don't even like Sentry and i can acknowledge that he's at the top of the stack. he's someone who could slap fight w/ the Hulk. the Void, an extension of Robert, could basically kill every being on the planet. knowing this, why is that such a bold statement?

I agree that Sentry could take out Nova, but at these power levels would there be a planet left. We are taking about exploding Suns and Wormholes as weapons/ Would there even be a solor System left? It would be like Franklin Richards at full power getting mad reality would be in danger.

[XPac]

Odds are Sentry would take his usual position of standing in the background doing absolutely nothing.

In THEORY Sentry could stop Nova. Whether or not anything even close to resembling that woud actually happen is kind of questionable.

[Monty_Cristo]

I agree that Sentry could take out Nova, but at these power levels would there be a planet left. We are taking about exploding Suns and Wormholes as weapons/ Would there even be a solor System left? It would be like Franklin Richards at full power getting mad reality would be in danger.

nothing i've observed about Robert makes me think that any of this would play a factor in the @##kicking he hands out. he's not much of a thinker. if he were attacked, he would attack back. the longer the fight goes, the more out of control/stronger he would get. if the solar system were damaged during this fight, he would cry about it later or heal it with his magic hand lights.

[Camron Amaya]

http://www.comicvine.com/marvel-power-rankings/42221/


Thats the closest I can find, narvel used to have classes like this on thier webpage. The Level 12 comes from when Nova arrived back on earth and shield noticed.

Thor is Three tiers below and Iron Man 4.

really wouldn't put much stock in that site..it's a fan site...its voted by them.....and also the comic states Nova is 12....he's not 12 on that site marvels site has the old power level things from 1 to 7. it ranks sentry slower, less durable and less fighting skill then both thor and surfer...

but we all know those don't mean anything..what happens is whatever serves the story.

[mikekerr3]

really wouldn't put much stock in that site..it's a fan site...its voted by them.....and also the comic states Nova is 12....he's not 12 on that site marvels site has the old power level things from 1 to 7. it ranks sentry slower, less durable and less fighting skill then both thor and surfer...

but we all know those don't mean anything..what happens is whatever serves the story.

I think the power level is about right though Nova is a peer with the Surfer He now has Hundereds of times the power he had before. Tony and Shield seemed pretty shook up about his arrival. Stark sure arrived with enough back-up

[Beast]

By the way, those who were wondering what happened to Sentry's wife. Go back and check the issue she was murdered. I was re-reading the book to check for any Skrully hints. And also cause the delays have made it annoying. The panel that shows Sentry holding her and closing her eyes while Ultron taunts him. There's a glow coming from Sentry's hand washing over her face that was easy to miss before, right before he flips and goes after Ultron again. So I'd definatly rule out Skrullyness, and say that he actually did bring her back to life. Especially considering Ultron notes at the same time, some unknown energy readings coming from Sentry.

Edit: Was re-reading the thread, I see someone mentioned it around page 5. Pay me no mind. :)

[sherlockbones]

don´t know why so many people think of skrulls or mind games concering sentry´s wife.
isn´t it obvious that he brought her back?
(sorry if this was discussed in a later state of the thread, in that case i missed it, 10 pages already)

and that finally makes sentry the ultimate copy of solar, man of the atom (imho), whose wife was also being kept alife due to the man´s omnipotent powers.

maybe other readers don´t care, but to me it was a huge let down.
kill plotdeviceplagiat-man!
;)

[Monty_Cristo]

don´t know why so many people think of skrulls or mind games concering sentry´s wife.
isn´t it obvious that he brought her back?
(sorry if this was discussed in a later state of the thread, in that case i missed it, 10 pages already)


it was discussed in the post before your own. :confused:

so, someone clue me in. why should i purchase the next story arc on this book when New Avengers already showed the results of it?

[Beast]

It showed the results. But not the Doom part of the storyline.

[Tobias Drake]

All it really showed is that the heroes won. Is anyone really going into this thinking, "Ooh, Venom infestation. I bet that'll beat them. There's no way the protagonists can win this one!"

Really, I think everyone already knew they were going to prevail in the end. A good story isn't about the destination; it's all about the journey.

[bjtrdff]

With regards to the Ares not having any thought bubbles in this issue, he's had enough in the previous ones to solidify him being who he says he is.

I'd say only Wasp/Wonderman and Ms. Marvel are in the running. Between that and one of the MA defecting to the NA, that team might be looking a tad lean...

[sherlockbones]

it was discussed in the post before your own.

i prefer to read my threads from the beginning, you know? so when i saw beast´s comment after posting my own, i thought there was no need to edit the exact text into my post, considering i already said that i did not read about that subject in the beginning of the thread.

monty mcwisenheimer?

besides, it was only a part of my point and not the basic message. solar is mentioned nowhere else.

so, someone clue me in. why should i purchase the next story arc on this book when New Avengers already showed the results of it?

some of us enjoy the art of story telling in itself. try espn for thrilling conclusions