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Silver Knight
12-18-2007, 04:40 PM
Ok have been going over NA #37 since I got it. And I have one question. IS Peter Robbins AKA The Hood, really think he can get away with attacking a Sheild base and freeing prisioners scot free? I mean even if he succeeds, which is a big if, I mean Tony will be pissed.

if this guy thought he was flying under the Radar before not anymore, Irondick will be all over him like stink on crap and white on rice. I can see it now

ID: Bob throw this cape wearing fool into the sun.

Sentry: But the Void...

ID: Just do what I tell you! I am your only friend! Listen to me and me alone! Throw him!

Sentry: Ok Tony...

The next panel Hood is roasted on the sun.

So I ask you is he just dumb or that cocky to think he can get away with this?

Tobias Drake
12-18-2007, 04:42 PM
I would say cocky.

Cayman
12-18-2007, 04:43 PM
He is very self-confident.

Alan2099
12-18-2007, 05:01 PM
He's bitting off more than he can chew. But you have to give him credit for one thing, few characters jump right into above their heads from the get-go and expect to be able to pull it off.

Monty_Cristo
12-18-2007, 05:02 PM
it's possible that he's mildly retarded. if Iron Man doesn't kill him, i'm sure his wife will.

He's bitting off more than he can chew. But you have to give him credit for one thing, few characters jump right into above their heads from the get-go and expect to be able to pull it off.

actually, most of the characters who have been created within the past few years have had that exact attitude. :)

Mastermind Excello and Irredeemable Ant-Man, for instance; both more balls than brains. Gravity, similarly, went all out as a hero and got blindsided by his very first supervillain. Quake seemed quite shocked when the Avengers laughed at her "request" to join the team. and many of the Camp Hammond recruits have taken bold steps and paid for it, as well ex. Komodo believing that she could take down Spider-man, Hardball stealing spin-tech, Armory thinking she was hot sh*t before killing one of her fellow recruits, etc.

1WEBHEAD
12-18-2007, 05:15 PM
The Hood is extremely cocky.

I mean, he honestly thinks he can take down the Avengers with a bunch a D To Z-Listers.

I mean, if your your team has a two page spread, and us comic-book geeks have to number and identify more than half of you team, your team pretty much stinks. . .

Mark_S
12-18-2007, 05:35 PM
On the other hand he did just walk into a SHIELD base and without any problem at all freed his men. Now I don't think SHIELD is very effective unless they are going after heroes, the dumbest supervillain can usually outwit the brightest SHIELD agent around, but even for them this was a pretty easy break out. And given the fact that the heroes are still divided after cw, that of the MA neither Carol nor Tony is trusted much and that the Hood might know the secret ID's of the heroes (he proved as much with Tigra after all), then yea, I say he can do some real damage.

Besides if he is really effective the Initiative might hire him to train the next batch of sign ups.


Mark_S

Toboe
12-18-2007, 05:40 PM
it's possible that he's mildly retarded. if Iron Man doesn't kill him, i'm sure his wife will.

LOL That is so true! I wonder what his relationship with her (were they even married?) and his son (has it been born already?) has come to now that he's all into the super villian business.

Now that he's lost one of the advantages he had, that the authorities thought him to be dead and none of the heroes gave a damn about him, I guess it wouldn't make much of a difference now infiltrating a SHIELD base to release his men if the Avengers already knew about him.

However, as much as I like the character, his plans and actions haven't been the smartest there is. Although it's quite probably that his over-confidence is a result of the Hood's demon influence.

DaeJi
12-18-2007, 05:42 PM
The Hood is only going after the lower tier of heroes right now (lower tier as in power levels), so to them he's a threat. Except to Strange, but he's being written down anyway. I don't think Ironman would look at the Hood as a threat, and for the Hood's sake I hope Ironman never looks at the Hood as a problem to be dealt with.

Monty_Cristo
12-18-2007, 05:42 PM
LOL That is so true! I wonder what his relationship with her (were they even married?) and his son (has it been born already?) has come to now that he's all into the super villian business.

Now that he's lost one of the advantages he had, that the authorities thought him to be dead and none of the heroes gave a damn about him, I guess it wouldn't make much of a difference now infiltrating a SHIELD base to release his men if the Avengers already knew about him.

However, as much as I like the character, his plans and actions haven't been the smartest there is. Although it's quite probably that his over-confidence is a result of the Hood's demon influence.


that seems like the most likely explanation. i wonder if Parker's kid and Danielle Cage will hook up in the future.

On the other hand he did just walk into a SHIELD base and without any problem at all freed his men. Now I don't think SHIELD is very effective unless they are going after heroes, the dumbest supervillain can usually outwit the brightest SHIELD agent around, but even for them this was a pretty easy break out. And given the fact that the heroes are still divided after cw, that of the MA neither Carol nor Tony is trusted much and that the Hood might know the secret ID's of the heroes (he proved as much with Tigra after all), then yea, I say he can do some real damage.

Besides if he is really effective the Initiative might hire him to train the next batch of sign ups.


Mark_S

but this is Tony's SHIELD. you telling me that he, the guy who whupped the Ghost's butt multiple times, doesn't have a way to counter an invisible enemy?

Mark_S
12-18-2007, 07:19 PM
but this is Tony's SHIELD. you telling me that he, the guy who whupped the Ghost's butt multiple times, doesn't have a way to counter an invisible enemy?

If he gets around to it. So far the Hood has only beaten Tigra near to death and killed a couple of SHIELD guards, not really enough to get Tony's attention. Tony will most likely be miffed about the break out, but I think he'll be more upset about the bad pr SHIELD will get for letting them escape after the renegades captured them. Also with Invasion coming Tony will most likely be too busy. I expect the Hood will have time to take down a lot of the lesser heroes before Tony really notices and/or does something about him. And by then the Hood will have gathered a pretty good group around him and will not be easy to take out.
Remember the more heroes he takes out-reguardless of their power level-the more of a rep he gets. They were heroes, he beat them, he rescued his men from jail... that sort of thing can buy a lot of loyalty. The better his rep the more super powered bad guys come to him. If the Hood goes after one of the MA Tony will respond, but if he just limits himself to the NA Tony won't really care enough to do much. If the Hood were really smart he wouldn't kill any of the NA, he'd simply catch them and leave them tied up at the foot of Stark Tower (when it is rebuilt) with a note saying "From your friendly neighbor-Hood" and let Tony lock them all up.

Mark_S

Monty_Cristo
12-18-2007, 07:32 PM
If he gets around to it. So far the Hood has only beaten Tigra near to death and killed a couple of SHIELD guards, not really enough to get Tony's attention. Tony will most likely be miffed about the break out, but I think he'll be more upset about the bad pr SHIELD will get for letting them escape after the renegades captured them. Also with Invasion coming Tony will most likely be too busy. I expect the Hood will have time to take down a lot of the lesser heroes before Tony really notices and/or does something about him. And by then the Hood will have gathered a pretty good group around him and will not be easy to take out.
Remember the more heroes he takes out-reguardless of their power level-the more of a rep he gets. They were heroes, he beat them, he rescued his men from jail... that sort of thing can buy a lot of loyalty. The better his rep the more super powered bad guys come to him. If the Hood goes after one of the MA Tony will respond, but if he just limits himself to the NA Tony won't really care enough to do much. If the Hood were really smart he wouldn't kill any of the NA, he'd simply catch them and leave them tied up at the foot of Stark Tower (when it is rebuilt) with a note saying "From your friendly neighbor-Hood" and let Tony lock them all up.

Mark_S

you guys make it sound so impressive when Electro did the same thing at the beginning of the New Avengers run. he freed all of those villains and much more cleverly. and i'm pretty certain that he could fry Tigra's rear too. and Tony would not, realistically, allow this to escalate.

Silver Knight
12-18-2007, 08:23 PM
it's possible that he's mildly retarded. if Iron Man doesn't kill him, i'm sure his wife will.

No kidding, god I hope so. But then again Gage and the gang could just deliver another helping plate of butt whoop

The Hood is extremely cocky.

I mean, he honestly thinks he can take down the Avengers with a bunch a D To Z-Listers.

I mean, if your your team has a two page spread, and us comic-book geeks have to number and identify more than half of you team, your team pretty much stinks. . .
Oh go how I remember that trying to piece together all those lam-o villians god that took forever.

The Hood is only going after the lower tier of heroes right now (lower tier as in power levels), so to them he's a threat. Except to Strange, but he's being written down anyway. I don't think Ironman would look at the Hood as a threat, and for the Hood's sake I hope Ironman never looks at the Hood as a problem to be dealt with.
See first post.

The MA has 4 class 100 bricks Sentry, Warbird(yes soemtimes I still call her warbird get over it), Wonder Man, and Ares. Combine that with Irondicks tech and man they are screwed

If he gets around to it. So far the Hood has only beaten Tigra near to death and killed a couple of SHIELD guards, not really enough to get Tony's attention. Tony will most likely be miffed about the break out, but I think he'll be more upset about the bad pr SHIELD will get for letting them escape after the renegades captured them. Also with Invasion coming Tony will most likely be too busy. I expect the Hood will have time to take down a lot of the lesser heroes before Tony really notices and/or does something about him. And by then the Hood will have gathered a pretty good group around him and will not be easy to take out.
Remember the more heroes he takes out-reguardless of their power level-the more of a rep he gets. They were heroes, he beat them, he rescued his men from jail... that sort of thing can buy a lot of loyalty. The better his rep the more super powered bad guys come to him. If the Hood goes after one of the MA Tony will respond, but if he just limits himself to the NA Tony won't really care enough to do much. If the Hood were really smart he wouldn't kill any of the NA, he'd simply catch them and leave them tied up at the foot of Stark Tower (when it is rebuilt) with a note saying "From your friendly neighbor-Hood" and let Tony lock them all up.
Mark_S

Eh true that But the Hood hates all hero's he wouldnt watse his time helping any.

Tony's no stranger to bad press but it would be the Indignity of it all

ID: What your telling me is a punk in a F-ing invisabilty cloak and a couple of pop guns freed the Wreaking Crew and Killed over a dozen guards?

Random shield operative: Um yes...Wait what are you doing?

ID: Im drinking a fifth of scotch and Kicking some ASS!


Also can anybody hate on the NA now? They demolished the wreaking crew and the rest of them when the wreaking crew curbstomped Omega Flight when they had Belta Ray Bill on their team a frekin planet buster for god sakes. Sure Omega eventually won but still.

Will.S
12-18-2007, 08:25 PM
Definitely cocky.

I also like that he takes initiative and if he wants something done, he just goes right up and does it.

Monty_Cristo
12-18-2007, 08:34 PM
Also can anybody hate on the NA now? They demolished the wreaking crew and the rest of them when the wreaking crew curbstomped Omega Flight when they had Belta Ray Bill on their team a frekin planet buster for god sakes. Sure Omega eventually won but still.

i kind of can because it was, to me, bad writing. there's no way that they pulled that off. and what happened to SHIELD guards wearing body armor?

Will.S
12-18-2007, 08:40 PM
Also can anybody hate on the NA now? They demolished the wreaking crew and the rest of them when the wreaking crew curbstomped Omega Flight when they had Belta Ray Bill on their team a frekin planet buster for god sakes. Sure Omega eventually won but still.
In their Omega Flight appearance (which I also loved) they were amped up by the Great Beasts power as well and Beta Ray Bill and Guardian still kicked their asses. Can't say the same for Sasquatch unfortunately.

I will admit though that the New Avengers defeat of the Crew did seem rather quick compared to the trouble they usually give the Avengers but I suppose you can file this in the "Wrecking Crew on a bad day" file.

Monty_Cristo
12-18-2007, 08:48 PM
In their Omega Flight appearance (which I also loved) they were amped up by the Great Beasts power as well and Beta Ray Bill and Guardian still kicked their asses. Can't say the same for Sasquatch unfortunately.

I will admit though that the New Avengers defeat of the Crew did seem rather quick compared to the trouble they usually give the Avengers but I suppose you can file this in the "Wrecking Crew on a bad day" file.

wasn't the living laser a part of the Hood's crew? how the *$#@ did they beat him? did Iron Fist hit him with a chair?

Silver Knight
12-18-2007, 08:54 PM
i kind of can because it was, to me, bad writing. there's no way that they pulled that off. and what happened to SHIELD guards wearing body armor?
Bad writing? *Ok I will say WTF about the armor but hey when your invisable you can shoot them in the head and that goes right through*

In their Omega Flight appearance (which I also loved) they were amped up by the Great Beasts power as well and Beta Ray Bill and Guardian still kicked their asses. Can't say the same for Sasquatch unfortunately.
Not the way I heard it.

I will admit though that the New Avengers defeat of the Crew did seem rather quick compared to the trouble they usually give the Avengers but I suppose you can file this in the "Wrecking Crew on a bad day" file.

Bad day?


Ok guys what the hell is going on here. Bad writing? They had a bad day? Yall whine when the NA is having troublke with 1000 ninja swarming them but when they actually beat someone yall cry foul and say it was lazy writing and the villians had a bad day. Comon now, the NA are Kick ass warriors that just served up an ass kicking at lest give them their props.

Silver Knight
12-18-2007, 08:55 PM
wasn't the living laser a part of the Hood's crew? how the *$#@ did they beat him? did Iron Fist hit him with a chair?

Damn straight, thats how they roll.

Monty_Cristo
12-18-2007, 08:59 PM
Ok guys what the hell is going on here. Bad writing? They had a bad day? Yall whine when the NA is having troublke with 1000 ninja swarming them but when they actually beat someone yall cry foul and say it was lazy writing and the villians had a bad day. Comon now, the NA are Kick ass warriors that just served up an ass kicking at lest give them their props.

i, for one, fully believe that a bunch of ninja could beat them.

Tobias Drake
12-18-2007, 09:00 PM
Bad writing? *Ok I will say WTF about the armor but hey when your invisable you can shoot them in the head and that goes right through*


Not the way I heard it.



Bad day?


Ok guys what the hell is going on here. Bad writing? They had a bad day? Yall whine when the NA is having troublke with 1000 ninja swarming them but when they actually beat someone yall cry foul and say it was lazy writing and the villians had a bad day. Comon now, the NA are Kick ass warriors that just served up an ass kicking at lest give them their props.

The Wrecking Crew are in a whole different league than faceless Hand mooks. That said, 1,000 ninjas? Yeah, anyone's going to have trouble with that.

Silver Knight
12-18-2007, 09:07 PM
i, for one, fully believe that a bunch of ninja could beat them.

You sir are made of fail. if I could I'd a banish you from this thread as well as strangle you through the computer. Since I can do nither I ask you to please stop disrespecting the NA and do not post unless it is something construtive.

I was kidding about the banish and strangle thing I just dont know if you could take a joke

The Wrecking Crew are in a whole different league than faceless Hand mooks. That said, 1,000 ninjas? Yeah, anyone's going to have trouble with that.

Well thats what it seemed like in Japan. hundredns of em came in wave after wave it wasnt untill Echo killed skrull Electra that they left.

Monty_Cristo
12-18-2007, 09:11 PM
You sir are made of fail. if I could I'd a banish you from this thread as well as strangle you through the computer. Since I can do nither I ask you to please stop disrespecting the NA and do not post unless it is something construtive.

I was kidding about the banish and strangle thing I just dont know if you could take a joke

take a joke? one of my favorite characters is Shortpack. how serious could i be?

Well thats what it seemed like in Japan. hundredns of em came in wave after wave it wasnt untill Echo killed skrull Electra that they left.

why didn't Doc Strange just make illusions of a thousand pirates?

Will.S
12-18-2007, 09:18 PM
Not the way I heard it.
What have you heard?

Bad day?

Ok guys what the hell is going on here. Bad writing? They had a bad day? Yall whine when the NA is having troublke with 1000 ninja swarming them but when they actually beat someone yall cry foul and say it was lazy writing and the villians had a bad day. Comon now, the NA are Kick ass warriors that just served up an ass kicking at lest give them their props.
I'm not saying that it was lazy writing nor am I even bagging on the New Avengers. The thing is that the Wrecking Crew are usually a pretty tough bunch to beat but they have their high points and their low points. The way they were defeated here seemed like it was done almost too easily. But then again since Wrecker shared his power with the rest he wasn't as powerful as he was when he took on the New Avengers single handedly.

The defeats were plausible as Cage was able to pin Wrecker against a truck, and knocked out Piledriver (good feats). Wolverine skewered Bulldozer while Iron Fist hit the same spot for a win although it would have been nice if he had used the iron fist technique just for extra flash since he doesn't seem to be using it all that often. Not sure what became of Thunderball, the last thing I saw was Iron Fist hitting him with a bar stool and followed up by Wolverine slashing him in the back.

Silver Knight
12-18-2007, 09:41 PM
take a joke? one of my favorite characters is Shortpack. how serious could i be?



why didn't Doc Strange just make illusions of a thousand pirates?

Because Ninja's Own Pirates. unless its Op verses Naruto and then the rules fly out the window.

Will: I heard not just saquatch, but the whole team got beat down bad, then they came back and kicked their asses.

Also good at least someone reconizes their accomplishment. You think maybe their where eaiser to beat is maybe the NA works so well together and has just the right skill set to take on just about anybody, hummm?

XPac
12-18-2007, 11:00 PM
Hood beat down Tigra pretty bad, and Stark, SHIELD, and the Initiative didn't do a whole lot about it. So I imagine the Hood is somewhat confident he can stay one step ahead unless Stark were to really focus his attention on finding him.

It's POSSIBLE this may gets Starks attention. But a lot is going on these days, and going after the Hood might not be a priority for him.

Tobias Drake
12-18-2007, 11:09 PM
Hood beat down Tigra pretty bad, and Stark, SHIELD, and the Initiative didn't do a whole lot about it. So I imagine the Hood is somewhat confident he can stay one step ahead unless Stark were to really focus his attention on finding him.

It's POSSIBLE this may gets Starks attention. But a lot is going on these days, and going after the Hood might not be a priority for him.

Though it's unlikely Stark, S.H.I.E.L.D., and the Initiative even knows about the Tigra beatdown.

XPac
12-18-2007, 11:40 PM
Though it's unlikely Stark, S.H.I.E.L.D., and the Initiative even knows about the Tigra beatdown.

I would assume that Tigra would be smart enough to mention it, regardless of what sort of threats Hood made. But who knows... maybe she is that stupid.

DaeJi
12-19-2007, 07:47 AM
Though it's unlikely Stark, S.H.I.E.L.D., and the Initiative even knows about the Tigra beatdown.

Considering that Hank Pym is her boyfriend, they probably know about the beatdown. The only reason Tony and S.H.I.E.L.D. aren't doing anything is because, well, there's no way to write it without it being a curbstomp in Tony's favor.

TotalWorldDomination
12-19-2007, 07:54 AM
wasn't the living laser a part of the Hood's crew? how the *$#@ did they beat him? did Iron Fist hit him with a chair?

It be fair to Iron Fist, it was a Diamond Chair that refracted the hell out of Living lazer. If the hood hadn't been so quick to go out and start buying bling...

The Wrecking Crew are in a whole different league than faceless Hand mooks. That said, 1,000 ninjas? Yeah, anyone's going to have trouble with that.

You've got to remember that A) those ninja's retreated after a while and B) most of them were taken out by Iron Man with a couple of well-placed blasts.

I would assume that Tigra would be smart enough to mention it, regardless of what sort of threats Hood made. But who knows... maybe she is that stupid.

I doubt she is. well... she could be.

Considering that Hank Pym is her boyfriend, they probably know about the beatdown. The only reason Tony and S.H.I.E.L.D. aren't doing anything is because, well, there's no way to write it without it being a curbstomp in Tony's favor.

Considering Hank Pym is her boyfriend they probably think he's responsible for the beatdown.

XPac
12-19-2007, 08:18 AM
Considering that Hank Pym is her boyfriend, they probably know about the beatdown. The only reason Tony and S.H.I.E.L.D. aren't doing anything is because, well, there's no way to write it without it being a curbstomp in Tony's favor.

Course, maybe being Hanks' girlfriend worked against her. Maybe Tony and the rest of the Initiative saw the bruises and decided not to ask any questions.

Tobias Drake
12-19-2007, 09:34 AM
I would assume that Tigra would be smart enough to mention it, regardless of what sort of threats Hood made. But who knows... maybe she is that stupid.

Didn't the Hood make something akin to a "If you go to the authorities, bad things happen" threat during the beatdown? It seems standard fare for scenes like this.

TotalWorldDomination
12-19-2007, 09:52 AM
Didn't the Hood make something akin to a "If you go to the authorities, bad things happen" threat during the beatdown? It seems standard fare for scenes like this.

He did, but in situations like that the worst thing you can actually do is not go to the authorities. Of course Tigra is part of the athorities, so you have to wonder. I hope she just goes after the Hood by herself and guts him in a back alley.

Tobias Drake
12-19-2007, 09:57 AM
He did, but in situations like that the worst thing you can actually do is not go to the authorities. Of course Tigra is part of the athorities, so you have to wonder. I hope she just goes after the Hood by herself and guts him in a back alley.

True, but at the same time, she doesn't have to be stupid to do as he said and not go to the authorities; just scared for her family.

TotalWorldDomination
12-19-2007, 10:08 AM
True, but at the same time, she doesn't have to be stupid to do as he said and not go to the authorities; just scared for her family.

that's a point and a half, but I still can't see Tigra not doing anything about it- at the very least she'll tell hank, and if she don't I'm sure he'll figure out something is wrong (or think that he's developed another personality again and really did beat her up). Perhaps this is the launching pad for the Tigra/Yellowjacket series that we've all been waiting for??? ;)

XPac
12-19-2007, 10:08 AM
True, but at the same time, she doesn't have to be stupid to do as he said and not go to the authorities; just scared for her family.

If you're scared for your family, the best thing you can do is tell someone so they can get protection, and so the problem can actually be solved. As I said, it's possible Tigra is in fact this stupid though... we'll see.

Tobias Drake
12-19-2007, 10:10 AM
I've heard rumor that fear of going to the authorities is going to lead her to join the New Avengers, but I can't verify. Has anyone else heard this?

TotalWorldDomination
12-19-2007, 10:20 AM
I've heard rumor that fear of going to the authorities is going to lead her to join the New Avengers, but I can't verify. Has anyone else heard this?

Well, if she joins the MA's at any point over the next arc and a half, it would make perfect sense cause then we'd get our MA to NA defection all taken care of without having to mess with a damn good lineup.

XPac
12-19-2007, 10:36 AM
I've heard rumor that fear of going to the authorities is going to lead her to join the New Avengers, but I can't verify. Has anyone else heard this?

That would be the NA trading one spy/traitor for another. I can see Bendis doing that given the potential drama there... the NA would obviously have trouble trusting her since she was a spy last time around.

Still, it I'm not sure her family would be any safer with her as a NA. The NA just tackled the Hood, so he's specifically going after them. And it's not like they can provide more protection unless she moves her family into Strange's house.

Still, perhaps her wanting a piece of the Hood might motivate her to join the NA. Stark and the MA might not consider the Hood a priority.

Tobias Drake
12-19-2007, 10:38 AM
That would be the NA trading one spy/traitor for another. I can see Bendis doing that given the potential drama there... the NA would obviously have trouble trusting her since she was a spy last time around.

Still, it I'm not sure her family would be any safer with her as a NA. The NA just tackled the Hood, so he's specifically going after them. And it's not like they can provide more protection unless she moves her family into Strange's house.

Still, perhaps her wanting a piece of the Hood might motivate her to join the NA. Stark and the MA might not consider the Hood a priority.

That it happened in an issue of NA is also something to consider.

Mississippienne
12-19-2007, 11:10 AM
Tigra was a police officer, she's got to know that her family is unsafe unless she does, in fact, go to the authorities about the Hood. Then again, this is Bendis writing Tigra, so she's got the brain power of a head of broccoli.

XPac
12-19-2007, 11:15 AM
Tigra was a police officer, she's got to know that her family is unsafe unless she does, in fact, go to the authorities about the Hood. Then again, this is Bendis writing Tigra, so she's got the brain power of a head of broccoli.

Millars writing of her as a super spy (ie her calling Stark with a phone that says STARK on it in the middle of the room) in CW didn't exactly make her come off as a rocket scientist either.

At this point, maybe we should just assume it's writing her in character.

The Cool Thatguy
12-19-2007, 11:20 AM
Millars writing of her as a super spy (ie her calling Stark with a phone that says STARK on it in the middle of the room) in CW didn't exactly make her come off as a rocket scientist either.

At this point, maybe we should just assume it's writing her in character.

Hey, it worked didn't it? ;)

StoneGold
12-19-2007, 03:22 PM
Considering that Hank Pym is her boyfriend, they probably know about the beatdown.

Nah, she just said she walked into a wall, and they figured it was Hank.

Mark_S
12-19-2007, 03:26 PM
True, but at the same time, she doesn't have to be stupid to do as he said and not go to the authorities; just scared for her family.

But how would the Hood know that she'd tell Tony about the attack? Tigra is part of the Initiative, a simple message through the chain of command would do it. And I'll give Tony a break and say that he would actually care. So unless Tigra thinks that the Hood knows every move she makes-or she has actually been scared to the point of obeying him (something that with Bendis writing her I could see) there is no reason not to tell Tony. This is starting to look like Bendis forcing the plot along.

Mark_S

XPac
12-19-2007, 03:38 PM
But how would the Hood know that she'd tell Tony about the attack?
Mark_S

He really wouldn't know... and that's the problem. If Hood wasn't bluffing (and I honestly think he might have been), then for all we know he's assuming that Tigra was the one that tipped off the New Avengers. Obviously he knows that Wolverine knows about them anyways since they crossed paths but still... the moment any hero goes after them there's no reason he won't assume they might have been sent by Tigra.

So from that perfective, Tigra might as well just tell the heroes since they're going to be going after Hood one way or the other. Especially now.

Tobias Drake
12-19-2007, 03:43 PM
Problem is, when people panic, they tend not to rationally consider all their options and decide which is the most feasible course. And when loved ones are endangered, panic is an easy response.

Mark_S
12-19-2007, 04:30 PM
Problem is, when people panic, they tend not to rationally consider all their options and decide which is the most feasible course. And when loved ones are endangered, panic is an easy response.

From ordinary people maybe, but from a former policewoman turned heroine? This is where Bendis is making the mistake, Tigra shouldn't fold that easily.

Mark_S

Monty_Cristo
12-19-2007, 05:12 PM
From ordinary people maybe, but from a former policewoman turned heroine? This is where Bendis is making the mistake, Tigra shouldn't fold that easily.

Mark_S

if she does fold then every super-villain could be their own boss, since it wouldn't take much to get a hero to back off.

Will.S
12-19-2007, 07:36 PM
wasn't the living laser a part of the Hood's crew? how the *$#@ did they beat him? did Iron Fist hit him with a chair?
Nope.

Living Laser wasn't a part of the group that was attacked by the New Avengers. Most likely he'll be with the group in the Annual where we can see him in that group shot.

From ordinary people maybe, but from a former policewoman turned heroine? This is where Bendis is making the mistake, Tigra shouldn't fold that easily.
We haven't even gotten her reaction yet since Bendis hasn't gotten back to Tigra. Just wait and see the next time he writes her before making a judgment on that whole thing.

Silver Knight
01-13-2008, 08:06 AM
Sort of bumping this thread for a reason.

Havent seen or heard much about the Hood for a awhile. Is he laying low? Are they just not brining his story out?

Well lets have answers.

XPac
01-13-2008, 09:04 AM
Sort of bumping this thread for a reason.

Havent seen or heard much about the Hood for a awhile. Is he laying low? Are they just not brining his story out?

Well lets have answers.

He's not laying low... after the NA busted his gang, he immediately freed them. From what I understand, the NA annual will be about his gang taking the fight right to the NA at Strange's mansion.

Silver Knight
01-13-2008, 09:33 AM
He's not laying low... after the NA busted his gang, he immediately freed them. From what I understand, the NA annual will be about his gang taking the fight right to the NA at Strange's mansion.

Well duh I read the comic.:rolleyes: kidding


When's the annual coming out?

Mark_S
01-13-2008, 10:54 AM
Well duh I read the comic.:rolleyes: kidding


When's the annual coming out?

This is marvel; who knows? At this point the way marvel handles the Avengers it is like getting different pieces of jigsaw puzzle mailed to you randomly over a year.

Mark_S

Blader5489
01-13-2008, 11:15 AM
When's the annual coming out?

End of the month.

Froggy
01-13-2008, 12:05 PM
wasn't the living laser a part of the Hood's crew? how the *$#@ did they beat him? did Iron Fist hit him with a chair? Living Laser: FEEL MY WRATH NEW AVENGUGHHRORHORHR *hit with chair*

Iron Fist: *suddenly sounds like stone cold* CAN I GET A HELL YEAH!

Spiderman: HELL YEAH!

*rest stare*

Spiderman: what?

Considering that Hank Pym is her boyfriend, they probably know about the beatdown. The only reason Tony and S.H.I.E.L.D. aren't doing anything is because, well, there's no way to write it without it being a curbstomp in Tony's favor.

or tony knows and just doesn't give a damn?

Silver Knight
01-13-2008, 03:13 PM
This is marvel; who knows? At this point the way marvel handles the Avengers it is like getting different pieces of jigsaw puzzle mailed to you randomly over a year.

Mark_S

Eh sad to say its true. Still better than DC:D

Living Laser: FEEL MY WRATH NEW AVENGUGHHRORHORHR *hit with chair*

Iron Fist: *suddenly sounds like stone cold* CAN I GET A HELL YEAH!

Spiderman: HELL YEAH!

*rest stare*

Spiderman: what?



or tony knows and just doesn't give a damn?

I can totally see both of things happening

Expletive Deleted
01-13-2008, 03:29 PM
He's not laying low... after the NA busted his gang, he immediately freed them. From what I understand, the NA annual will be about his gang taking the fight right to the NA at Strange's mansion.He's also been making cameos on DAREDEVIL, keeping an eye on the Mr. Fear situation.

Froggy
01-13-2008, 04:03 PM
Eh sad to say its true. Still better than DC:D



I can totally see both of things happening

see?

give me a few years and once im out of college marvel will be BEGGING ME TO WRITE LOLZ

Silver Knight
01-13-2008, 04:18 PM
see?

give me a few years and once im out of college marvel will be BEGGING ME TO WRITE LOLZ

Ive wanted to write at marvel since I was 16 years old(thats about 6 years) and Belive me if I was around their Marvel wouldt hear half the whining that goes on nowadays.


And ED does daredevil even still come out?:p

I eman Ive lost all interest and respect for DD after all marvel has done to try to run him into the ground.

Froggy
01-13-2008, 04:29 PM
Ive wanted to write at marvel since I was 16 years old(thats about 6 years) and Belive me if I was around their Marvel wouldt hear half the whining that goes on nowadays.


And ED does daredevil even still come out?:p

I eman Ive lost all interest and respect for DD after all marvel has done to try to run him into the ground.

well i'ms eventeen

if i could i would, but i'm not tTHAT interested


and daredvevil sin't being run into the ground

i haven't gotten anyr ecent issues the past few months tho cause i'm a "pic k it up at a store" dude

Mark_S
01-13-2008, 05:35 PM
Beware success. After all what you are saying now the current group of Marvel writers were most likely saying years ago and look at what is said about them on these boards. As is said "Sometimes the only thing worse than failing is succeeding."

Mark_S

darksaint124
01-14-2008, 02:43 AM
To answer the OP. Parker Robbins is GANGSTA!!!!!!!!!!
I mean he might be a little slow up top, but the man shot Wolverine in his balls several times and lived to tell about it. That my friends is called stepping your game up. He's still gonna get beat down when the heroes get pro-active, but after that fight I found some new respect for him(not to mention breaking all your people out of S.H.E.I.L.D. custody hours after they were caught.Gangsta.

Sijo
01-14-2008, 03:51 AM
My guess is that there is a demon inside his cloak that has now possessed him. Because otherwise he goes from loser to badass just because Bendis says so.