Secret Invasion: Infiltration Solicits

[TotalWorldDomination]

A return to traditional threads!

http://comics.ign.com/articles/841/841891p1.html

a few thoughts-

Mighty Ships double again! Huzzah! Doom back in time? I have no idea where Bendis is going with this, but I do like it.

calling it now- KIA is MVP. The original MVP, brought back to life somehow. I have a terrible feeling Baron Von Blitzshalg will be a casualty, and an OK feeling that Hank Pym may be one too.

They are openly suggesting Ms. Marvel is a Skrull... this leads me to believe that she's 100% not a skrull. Call it TWD's principal of marvel misdirection, if they're suggesting something will happen with a preview image, it never will.

[Tobias Drake]

The seeds of Doom traveling back in time were planted in Captain America.

[TotalWorldDomination]

The seeds of Doom traveling back in time were planted in Captain America.

Ooooo... nice catch Tobias. Do you think that this will be that situation? Doom goes back and runs an Eastern European empire for a few years?

I loved that arc of Cap, and the thought that Dr. D was the person who created those ancient weapons was a great one, but I figured that would be Bru's story to tell.

[Mark_S]

Doom and Tony were stuck back in time once before, in Camelot. As long as you get Doom's word your ok.

As for the rest: Go skrulls!

Mark_S

[Tobias Drake]

Ooooo... nice catch Tobias. Do you think that this will be that situation? Doom goes back and runs an Eastern European empire for a few years?

I loved that arc of Cap, and the thought that Dr. D was the person who created those ancient weapons was a great one, but I figured that would be Bru's story to tell.

I would wager so. Marvel does seem to love its inter-series crossovers.

[Joe Zool]

A return to traditional threads!

http://comics.ign.com/articles/841/841891p1.html

They are openly suggesting Ms. Marvel is a Skrull... this leads me to believe that she's 100% not a skrull. Call it TWD's principal of marvel misdirection, if they're suggesting something will happen with a preview image, it never will.

Unless they want us to think so, and the misdirection is a misdirection and Ms. Marvel really is a skrull. :evilsmile

[TotalWorldDomination]

Unless they want us to think so, and the misdirection is a misdirection and Ms. Marvel really is a skrull. :evilsmile

Ah, but they have to know we'd assume the misdirection was a misdirection, making the misdirection's misdirection a simple misdirection! but they'd have to see that coming too...

In any case, I don't think Ms. M is a skrull... right now. She could be captured and replaced in issue 25, transforming the comic to be from the invading skrull's perspective during the build-up to SI. I might start buying it then. ;)

[CaptainCanada]

I thought the Doom story was only three issues; whatever; more from Mark Bagley in his last Marvel work for a while (nice to see them mention his departure in the solicits).

Ms. Marvel being replaced in #25 or somesuch would be interesting, but barring some really major retcon, she couldn't be one now; Reed gives her a running internal monologue every issue.

[rwsmith]

Looks like Wolverine and Echo will be the ones hooking up in New Avengers.

[Monty_Cristo]

Ah, but they have to know we'd assume the misdirection was a misdirection, making the misdirection's misdirection a simple misdirection! but they'd have to see that coming too...


that's inconcievable!

[CMBMOOL]

Looks like Wolverine and Echo will be the ones hooking up in New Avengers.

Well it is a part of Wolverine's job description. :D

[XPac]

I thought the Doom story was only three issues; whatever; more from Mark Bagley in his last Marvel work for a while (nice to see them mention his departure in the solicits).

Ms. Marvel being replaced in #25 or somesuch would be interesting, but barring some really major retcon, she couldn't be one now; Reed gives her a running internal monologue every issue.

Well, there is that Warbird alternate reality Carol. She might be a skrull. That would be a cheap way to teast Carol being one when she's really not.

[Monty_Cristo]

my money's still on Simon Williams. his fashion sense is skrully.

[Tomas]

Love the New Avengers cover :D
Could Wican look more gay with that costume?
I don't think that Ms.Marvel is a skrull.

[Tobias Drake]

Grah...I can't make KIA out with this artist. I can't tell if I was right or not about him being MVP.

[PatchMadripoor]

Best way to figure out what the SKrulls are up to.. infiltrate the Skrulls.

Who's got the sass and brass to pull it off? Ms. Marvel, since her Kree and other mixed heritages would make her immune to whatever the Warskrulls are doing to mimic their Marvel Heroes.

[Tobias Drake]

Best way to figure out what the SKrulls are up to.. infiltrate the Skrulls.

Who's got the sass and brass to pull it off? Ms. Marvel, since her Kree and other mixed heritages would make her immune to whatever the Warskrulls are doing to mimic their Marvel Heroes.

She's actually half-Skrull, but no one ever realized it, and that's why the Kree experimented on her.

Hey, if Ghost Rider can be an angel, that's not so far-fetched. :p

[Monty_Cristo]

they should use Crusader as a double-agent, once he graduates from Camp Hammond.

[Toboe]

Looks like Wolverine and Echo will be the ones hooking up in New Avengers.

Good thinking, I hadn't noticed that part. I sort of like the pair, and they have some history together so it's not out of the blue.

Cho's Mighty Avengers cover is gorgeous, I love how he draws Ms. Marvel.
The Iron Man/Doc Doom team-up has got me excited. The Sentry having a breakdown... never saw that coming. He's like the Marvel Universe Britney Spears, next thing you know he'll shave his head off.

Can Wiccan look more gay in that cover?

[drwho]

I think the solicits in Avengers hint that Dr. Doom maybe a skrull.

[TotalWorldDomination]

Can Wiccan look more gay in that cover?

yeah, he could be having sex with a man.

too much?

[TotalWorldDomination]

they should use Crusader as a double-agent, once he graduates from Camp Hammond.

That would be pretty awesome to watch... would he side with the skrulls though? perhaps he already knew the invasion was coming?

[Monty_Cristo]

That would be pretty awesome to watch... would he side with the skrulls though? perhaps he already knew the invasion was coming?

he was on Earth specifically to spy on the Avengers but "quit" his job once the Avengers were Disassembled. so far, he seems to like it on Earth. i don't see a strong reason for him to back a skrull takeover. sure, it would make him the instant champion of his species if he aided them in the overthrow of Earth. but he's got the powers and skill set to be a big time hero fighting them off, as well. Crusader seemed to be kind of 'gray' moral-wise. he'll probably go with whomever gives him the best offer. what i'm interested in is them discovering he's a skrull. will he step off the bus with a green ribbed chin or be wearing his human guise? can't wait for he and Ant-Man (the other Kirkman-creation) to interact. they could get into a lot of trouble w/ a reality-warping ring.

P.S. to his credit, he did save the Avengers bacon by helping take down Titannus (some big skrull supervillain). that leads me to believe that his loyalties are with Earth.

[Will.S]

Could Wican look more gay with that costume?
Yeah it's an awkward pose:

http://comicsmedia.ign.com/comics/image/article/841/841891/secret-invasion-infiltration-sneak-peek-20071217011514138.jpg

BTW are the brown parts on Wiccan's side a new detail added to the costume? I don't remember that part of the costume ever being there.

[Flâneur]

She-Wiccan =/

Gosh.

Sounds like a good story though, my interest for everything but this and the Initiative has kind of deadened though.

[Samuraixsithlord]

Didn't Bendis say that some of the Skrulls would be sleeper agents who didn't know they were skrull agents until they're triggered?

I'm thinking that "Ms. Marvel" will start to realize she's a skrull and have some sort of identity crisis like Boomer did in season 2 of Battlestar.

I'm just wondering if Secret Invasion will be better then Final Crisis and if Marvel will do a third Annihilation.

[Tobias Drake]

NORTHSTAR: Wiccan...buddy...listen to me. This is very important. I'M gay, and even I think that pose in that costume is really gay.

[Atom_basher]

Can Wiccan look more gay in that cover?

i thought the SAME exact thing, the costume and pose are both SUPER feminine

[Arilou]

I doubt Carol is a skrull. Even if she's a sleeper agent (BSG ripoff much?) it'd still have to make sense of all the kree stuff.


Doom and Tony were stuck back in time once before, in Camelot. As long as you get Doom's word your ok.

As for the rest: Go skrulls!

Mark_S

And if you Don't Tony ends up making sure Camelot never falls and setting off the industrial revolution in the middle-ages.

Yeah.

[Jimmy Holograph]

Looks like Wolverine and Echo will be the ones hooking up in New Avengers.

I still say it'll be Clint, not Logan. Unless of course Clint is a Skrull. On second thought even if Clint is a Skrull.

[SnakeEater]

wHAT
the hell???
bagleys leaving marvel???

[Wild Card13]

wHAT
the hell???
bagleys leaving marvel???

Old news.

And wow. Wiccan's new costume blows. Seriously? They made the sides of it sheer? You can freaking see the side of his ass. How practical is that as a costume?

[drwho]

Wiccan looks like his head was placed on Scarlet Wtich's body.

[Josef F.]

Old news.

And wow. Wiccan's new costume blows. Seriously? They made the sides of it sheer? You can freaking see the side of his ass. How practical is that as a costume?

Ha.
I think it's cool.

And when's Young avengers presents out?
I haven't been a pleebus and missed any have I??
That would destroy me.
=[

I want Wolveirine to be a skrull
I wanna say SKRULLVERINE once more.

[ShaggyB]

She's actually half-Skrull, but no one ever realized it, and that's why the Kree experimented on her.

Hey, if Ghost Rider can be an angel, that's not so far-fetched. :p

lol Thats not a stretch Ghost Rider has been that sense volume 2s ending back in issue 93 when he killed black heart and became the angel of death and ruler of hell, then ofcourse he left hell and Dan Ketch

Man Rider storys are confusen if you look at the whole of all the books.

[TotalWorldDomination]

I still say it'll be Clint, not Logan. Unless of course Clint is a Skrull. On second thought even if Clint is a Skrull.

Didn't they already foreshadow the two of them getting together with the "in or out" shower scene?

Come to think of it... there are alot of shower scenes in New Avengers. I wonder if Bendis is trying to make up for the fact that superheroes never bathe...

[TheCrisisKid]

KIA and MVP being 3 letter names for people is more than just a coincedence in my opinion. Did anyone think that the clones were going to work out for the good this time? Clor was an utter failure. So how can they go from utter failure to success in one try? But I could see the real MVP coming back to life and killing the clones and the doctors that cloned him.

[Tobias Drake]

The ominous smirk at the end of issue 7 did seem to foreshadow KIA, I think.

[TotalWorldDomination]

The ominous smirk at the end of issue 7 did seem to foreshadow KIA, I think.

yeah, I'd bet that it's the original MVP, somehow brought back to life by the Tactigon or the MVP that got sent home with his family.

The Scarlett Spiders will fight and defeat him, primiarly because they have all of MVP's moves with Spider-man's moves.

[TheCrisisKid]

How do we know the Scarlett Spiders will fight their original? If you were a clone of yourself, and shared the same logic, feelings, etc, would you not understand where MVP(KIA) is coming from?

I'm expecting KIA to be more powerful than the clones though. If the clones do fight KIA, I expect KIA to murder them very gruesome-like.

[Tobias Drake]

How do we know the Scarlett Spiders will fight their original? If you were a clone of yourself, and shared the same logic, feelings, etc, would you not understand where MVP(KIA) is coming from?

I'm expecting KIA to be more powerful than the clones though. If the clones do fight KIA, I expect KIA to murder them very gruesome-like.

Eh. If they're perfect clones and have Spider-powers as well, any one of them should be tougher than the original. All three at once, and KIA better have a expletive good reason to be able to take them.

That said, he's clearly wielding the Tactigon in the solicit. I would call that an expletive good reason.

[Monty_Cristo]

How do we know the Scarlett Spiders will fight their original? If you were a clone of yourself, and shared the same logic, feelings, etc, would you not understand where MVP(KIA) is coming from?

I'm expecting KIA to be more powerful than the clones though. If the clones do fight KIA, I expect KIA to murder them very gruesome-like.

i'm beginning to think that the "greatest mistake of Henry Pym's superhero career" is him figuring out how to graft the tactigon onto the regenerating MVP body. of course, that doesn't really work with my other theory that the MVP clone sent home to his "father" went nuts (like in the movie Deathdream). i just had another thought. what if the one that was sent home became a little insecure about his own existence so he returned to the camp to kill the original Michael Van Patrick and his "brothers?"

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068457/

either way, it's too bad that Armory isn't coming back in the forseeable future.



How do we know the Scarlett Spiders will fight their original? If you were a clone of yourself, and shared the same logic, feelings, etc, would you not understand where MVP(KIA) is coming from?


Peter Parker didn't.

[TotalWorldDomination]

i'm beginning to think that the "greatest mistake of Henry Pym's superhero career" is him figuring out how to graft the tactigon onto the regenerating MVP body. of course, that doesn't really work with my other theory that the MVP clone sent home to his "father" went nuts (like in the movie Deathdream). i just had another thought. what if the one that was sent home became a little insecure about his own existence so he returned to the camp to kill the original Michael Van Patrick and his "brothers?"

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068457/

either way, it's too bad that Armory isn't coming back in the forseeable future.

I'd agree. I think that classic MVP will come back to life at some point (why keep an evil Ex-Nazi scientist around if he can't raise the dead?), and who knows, perhaps it will be to take on his first clone.

[Toboe]

I still say it'll be Clint, not Logan. Unless of course Clint is a Skrull. On second thought even if Clint is a Skrull.

Oh, right, the whole weird shower scene and all... meh. I supose the also have the Ronin bond or whatever. Never liked her as Ronin, though. Could turn interesting, but I'm not a fan of the pairing right now.

I liked the idea of Wolverine and Echo as a couple more.

[worstblogever]

Whoa. Wiccan apparently has developed skills as a pyrokinetic, because that pose is FLAMING!

[Monty_Cristo]

Whoa. Wiccan apparently has developed skills as a pyrokinetic, because that pose is FLAMING!

i think he should go back to calling himself Asgardian.

[TotalWorldDomination]

i think he should go back to calling himself Asgardian.

eh, it was a silly name, despite the huge potential for gay-joke making. His powers are in no way related to Asgard. If he wanted to have a more appropriate name he'd go with Scarlet Wizard or Captain Takes-it-up-the... oh never mind.

[samhalliwell]

Everything looks and sounds amazing. I'm really intrigued for Ms. Marvel, myself.

eh, it was a silly name, despite the huge potential for gay-joke making. His powers are in no way related to Asgard. If he wanted to have a more appropriate name he'd go with Scarlet Wizard or Captain Takes-it-up-the... oh never mind.

That last one wasn't very funny, really. No, really :p

And I have no idea why Cheung would draw him in that pose. Were they trying to get the fact that he's Wanda's kid, in case the solit didn't say it explicitly enough, by amalgamating his head and her body together?

And what the hell is up with the sides of the costume? Last time I checked, he wore an all-black costume plus the red cape and the silver thing. And Speed looks like he needs some food, he might break in a half.

[Jimmy Holograph]

Didn't they already foreshadow the two of them getting together with the "in or out" shower scene?

Come to think of it... there are alot of shower scenes in New Avengers. I wonder if Bendis is trying to make up for the fact that superheroes never bathe...

Yeh, that's what I'm getting at. Next thing you know Bendis will be writing panels of Avengers sitting on the can.

[rpv20042002]

is it me or is it wolverine as the shadow in the cover of captain marvel#5?

[Bryson the Red]

is it me or is it wolverine as the shadow in the cover of captain marvel#5?

Could be, but I think those are Skrull ears.

[TheCrisisKid]

Let's comprimise. The reason Wolverine can be shown in so many comics is because there is one real Wolverine and the rest are Skrull clones. That's not hair underneith that mask, that's his ears.

[rpv20042002]

Could be, but I think those are Skrull ears.

perhaps, but think about he was in the savage land alone in new avengers series, how tripped out would it be if he was, how much damaged he could have made

[Tobias Drake]

There never was a Wolverine. He's always been four different Skrulls, working in tandem to spread great confusion and disorientation to the heroes.

[TotalWorldDomination]

There never was a Wolverine. He's always been four different Skrulls, working in tandem to spread great confusion and disorientation to the heroes.

Wow. Just 4 guys did all that??? I figured wolverine would require the bulk of Skrull civilization working over decades to do everything wolvie dose.