RITA's XLVIII: Some Fun Now

[howyadoin]

Your song of the moment is awesome, but the one you sent me is even better, Foo Fighters Cold Day in the Sun....One of my favorite songs ever. Thanks again bro. It just popped up randomly on my playlist.Anytime, buddy.

And do you have the new Foo Fighters yet?

Knock knock
Who's there?
Al Gore
Al Gore who?
Exactly... Howyadoin over at CBR solved global warming, who gives a damn about Gore?Y'know, I bet global warming could be solved if enough people smoked enough pot to plug that hole in the ozone layer.

[kmeyers]

Anytime, buddy.

And do you have the new Foo Fighters yet?

Y'know, I bet global warming could be solved if enough people smoked enough pot to plug that hole in the ozone layer.

Which Foo's? I don't hjave the whole album yet, but i have collected a few gems.

[howyadoin]

Which Foo's? I don't hjave the whole album yet, but i have collected a few gems.The entire new album, but especially "Long Road to Ruin" and the title track.

And "Home", too.

[howyadoin]

Goodnight CBR, wherever you are.

[Paradox]

kmeyers summons old CBR slang:

Gore's Kryptonite is Canadians. I thought everyone knew that.

Howy's Kryptonite, on the other hand, is an entirely different story.

[kmeyers]

Howy's Kryptonite, on the other hand, is an entirely different story.

How so?



.

[Nick Soapdish]

I think I am going to put together an evil Christmas movie marathon. Die Hard, Silent Night, Deadly Night, Black Christmas, Beavis and Butthead Do Christmas... what am I missing?

By evil, you mean bad Christmas movies?

You definitely need Die Hard 2: Die Harder then.

[Pól Rua]

By evil, you mean bad Christmas movies?

You definitely need Die Hard 2: Die Harder then.

'Santa Claus Conquers The Martians'.

[morna]

pol !!!!!!

[Brian Cronin]

Two Avengers were both born in Gloucester, Mass.

How bizzare is THAT?

-Brian

[Brian Cronin]

Also, while March's solicits are today, here (http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/12/18/judging-marvels-february-books-by-their-covers-2/) is Marvel Cover Snark for February!

-Brian

[Typo Lad]

Are all the normal Rita's people asleep?

[Puma]

Morning people.

It is raining. You'd think the news people had never encountered it before, they way they have 'extended storm coverage'.

[Kid Omega]

There have been several threads lately along the lines of "I HATE/WANT TO KILL X because of (INSERT SOMETHING PETTY)"

What's with all the steaming rage?

Is it holiday stress? Not enough lovin'?

[Dreadstar]

Lack of cigarettes.




...what?

[Agent Helix]

I've been a god damn ray of sunshine YOU PILES OF FUCK!

[Paradox]

kmeyers doesn't know this one:

How so?

I think koop started it, but...

Kryptonite.

http://www.newsli.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/pot-leaf-big.jpg

[Ed Cunard]

I think the blame falls on Dan Didio. Or George W. Bush. Or abortion. Or the two-party system. Or Joe Quesada. Or Scrabble. Or illegal comics downloading. Or capitalism. Or the WGA strike (Grr! Me want 24!). Or the weather.

You know, anything that can be a scapegoat for the person's own accountability.

[Paradox]

Agent Helix has one off:

I've been a god damn ray of sunshine YOU PILES OF FUCK!

Quit being anti-social, you GREAT HEAP OF GORILLA TURDS!

[Dreadstar]

You know, anything that can be a scapegoat for the person's own accountability.

Bah! Accountability is over-rated.

[jessecuster3]

I think the blame falls on Dan Didio. Or George W. Bush. Or abortion. Or the two-party system. Or Joe Quesada. Or Scrabble. Or illegal comics downloading. Or capitalism. Or the WGA strike (Grr! Me want 24!). Or the weather.

You know, anything that can be a scapegoat for the person's own accountability.

Actually it is all my fault, didn't you already know that?

[Ed Cunard]

Bah! Accountability is over-rated.

I blame accountability. Or accountants. Or cheating wives. Or being laid off. Or them killing off Captain America. Or phonetic translations. Or sexual repression. Or clinical depression. Or rules against self-expression.

[Ed Cunard]

Actually it is all my fault, didn't you already know that?

Well, you are Jewish.

[Jared_Humpherys]

There have been several threads lately along the lines of "I HATE/WANT TO KILL X because of (INSERT SOMETHING PETTY)"

What's with all the steaming rage?

Is it holiday stress? Not enough lovin'?

I should start one along the lines of "I''m experiencing depression and having uncomfortable bowel movements. I blame Jesus."

[HomerJay]

Ed, sorry for spoiling I AM LEGEND for you.

[Puma]

All I know is every little thing is setting me off right now, I blame the quitting soda.

[Dr. Hfuhruhurr]

There have been several threads lately along the lines of "I HATE/WANT TO KILL X because of (INSERT SOMETHING PETTY)"

What's with all the steaming rage?

Is it holiday stress? Not enough lovin'?

I want to kill you because of your insufferably smarmy shilling.

[Dr. Hfuhruhurr]

Ed, sorry for spoiling I AM LEGEND for you.

The butler did it.

[Jared_Humpherys]

All I know is every little thing is setting me off right now, I blame the quitting soda.

I know exactly what you're going through.

It should be over in less than a week, though.

[Kid Omega]

I want to kill you because of your insufferably smarmy shilling.

ohhwww.

That stung.

[Ed Cunard]

Ed, sorry for spoiling I AM LEGEND for you.

Eh. Saves me the trouble of watching it.

[Typo Lad]

All I know is every little thing is setting me off right now, I blame the quitting soda.
Kara? Is that you?

[Dr. Hfuhruhurr]

ohhwww.

That stung.

There's more where that came from, Bucko. You don't want any piece of this right now!

THE RAGE!!! THE RAGE!!!

[HomerJay]

The butler did it.
I just mentioned that something happens in the story that would elicit a strong reaction from him and he astutely determined exactly what it was based upon what he already knew.

[Jared_Humpherys]

I just mentioned that something happens in the story that would elicit a strong reaction from him and he astutely determined exactly what it was based upon what he already knew.

The dog dies?

Damn it, I knew it.

[Jared_Humpherys]

There's more where that came from, Bucko. You don't want any piece of this right now!

THE RAGE!!! THE RAGE!!!

Huffypuffy SMASH!

[Kid Omega]

I just mentioned that something happens in the story that would elicit a strong reaction from him and he astutely determined exactly what it was based upon what he already knew.

The dog dies?

[Ed Cunard]

I just mentioned that something happens in the story that would elicit a strong reaction from him and he astutely determined exactly what it was based upon what he already knew.

Really, though, it didn't take Sherlock Holmes or anything to figure it out. There's not much that elicits strong reactions like that from me.

And, with one dog in kidney failure, one with diabetes, and one with mange, I'm more sensitive than usual regarding puppy-related things, so it'll be a while before I'm able to watch something like that, so I appreciated the heads-up, Spoily McRuiner.

[HomerJay]

Eh. Saves me the trouble of watching it.
It was actually suprisingly good. Think CASTAWAY crossed with the DAWN OF THE DEAD remake. Thankfully, we got "serious dramatic actor" Will Smith rather than "sassy urban action hero" Will Smith.
I will admit that I'm a sucker for apocalyptic/post-apocalyptic fiction though.

[Ed Cunard]

Obfuscation: not HomerJay's strong point.

[Jared_Humpherys]

Alex owes me a non-caffeinated soda.

[HomerJay]

Obfuscation: not HomerJay's strong point.
Eh, it was just impossible to warn somebody about it without spoiling it.
At least the dog dies in an extremely heroic manner. Which actually makes it harder to watch I guess.

[Dom]

I blame accountability. Or accountants. Or cheating wives. Or being laid off. Or them killing off Captain America. Or phonetic translations. Or sexual repression. Or clinical depression. Or rules against self-expression.

Fuck off, ass wipe. This is all your fault. I don't know what we're talking about, but I'm sure you did it.

I want to kill you because of your insufferably smarmy shilling.

Says the lawyer.

[Kid Omega]

It was actually suprisingly good. Think CASTAWAY crossed with the DAWN OF THE DEAD remake. Thankfully, we got "serious dramatic actor" Will Smith rather than "sassy urban action hero" Will Smith.
I will admit that I'm a sucker for apocalyptic/post-apocalyptic fiction though.

Have you read:

THE ROAD
CANTICLE FOR LEIBOWITZ
BOOK OF THE NEW SUN

or two short stories by fritz lieber: A PAIL OF AIR and THE MANY WHO NEVER GREW YOUNG?

[jessecuster3]

Ed, sorry for spoiling I AM LEGEND for you.

I am guessing: you told him to avoid it because of the doggie death

[HomerJay]

Have you read:

THE ROAD
CANTICLE FOR LEIBOWITZ
BOOK OF THE NEW SUN

or two short stories by fritz lieber: A PAIL OF AIR and THE MANY WHO NEVER GREW YOUNG?
Haven't read any of those, but I'll seek them out.

I am guessing: you told him to avoid it because of the doggie death
Yup. It messed me up, so I could only imagine what it would do to Ed.

[Ed Cunard]

Yup. It messed me up, so I could only imagine what it would do to Ed.

HomerJay and I are vagina brothers.

[Winslow]

Yup. It messed me up, so I could only imagine what it would do to Ed.

At the same time, it's totally predictable. My daughter and I laughed about it when we heard there was a dog.

Gee, I wonder what will happen to the dog? And why I put this in spoilers, I have no idea

[thespianphryne]

Haven't read any of those, but I'll seek them out.


Yup. It messed me up, so I could only imagine what it would do to Ed.

I haven't read The Road or Book Of The New Sun, but Canticle is great. As are the Leiber stories.


-Das

[thespianphryne]

At the same time, it's totally predictable. My daughter and I laughed about it when we heard there was a dog.

Gee, I wonder what will happen to the dog? And why I put this in spoilers, I have no idea

Yes, in a movie like this, it is sort of a gimme, isn't it?


-Das

[Jared_Humpherys]

HomerJay and I are vagina brothers.

Oh, if Sarah and I hadn't seen it coming a mile away from the trailer and went to see the film, it'd mess us both up bad as well.

[Winslow]

Yes, in a movie like this, it is sort of a gimme, isn't it?


-Das



If the dog was in the original Star Trek, it would be wearing a red shirt.

[HomerJay]

HomerJay and I are vagina brothers.
Having kids or dogs in danger or dying in a movie is just dirty pool. It always pushes my buttons.

[Jared_Humpherys]

Having kids or dogs in danger or dying in a movie is just dirty pool. It always pushes my buttons.

You should go watch "Milo and Otis." It'll cheer you up.

[jessecuster3]

Really, though, it didn't take Sherlock Holmes or anything to figure it out. There's not much that elicits strong reactions like that from me.

And, with one dog in kidney failure, one with diabetes, and one with mange, I'm more sensitive than usual regarding puppy-related things, so it'll be a while before I'm able to watch something like that, so I appreciated the heads-up, Spoily McRuiner.

Oh I was totally going to tell you the same thing, and forgot.

[Dom]

If the dog was in the original Star Trek, it would be wearing a red shirt.

And be named Dog #4

[jessecuster3]

Having kids or dogs in danger or dying in a movie is just dirty pool. It always pushes my buttons.

You should completely not see the Mist, then. Aside from it being completely shitty.

[thespianphryne]

You should completely not see the Mist, then. Aside from it being completely shitty.

He already saw it and liked it.



-Das

[Winslow]

Having kids or dogs in danger or dying in a movie is just dirty pool. It always pushes my buttons.

It's been so over played, I tend to check out.

A recent exception would be Pans Labyrinth. I really empathized with the protagonist in that one.

[Kid Omega]

Haven't read any of those, but I'll seek them out.



Go get THE ROAD, and then prepare to be miserably depressed for days.

[Kid Omega]

You should completely not see the Mist, then. Aside from it being completely shitty.

Not enough giant-robot-peeing?

[Dom]

Not enough giant-robot-peeing?

And no Jar Jar.

[Winslow]

Go get THE ROAD, and then prepare to be miserably depressed for days.

Now I'm intrigued.

I loved the end to the original Planet of the Apes movie. That depressed the crap out of me too.

[thespianphryne]

It's been so over played, I tend to check out.

A recent exception would be Pans Labyrinth. I really empathized with the protagonist in that one.

See that's why Pan's Labyrinth is a good movie: I knew the ending and was still interested in the movie.


-Das

[Winslow]

Not enough giant-robot-peeing?

LUBRICATING!

[Dreadstar]

Having kids or dogs in danger or dying in a movie is just dirty pool. It always pushes my buttons.

You? I *STILL* can't watch Pet Sematary all the way through, and my kid is grown up now.

[Dr. Hfuhruhurr]

LUBRICATING!

I was not!

Who told you?

[Winslow]

See that's why Pan's Labyrinth is a good movie: I knew the ending and was still interested in the movie.


-Das

Exactly . . .because the path to get there wasn't predictable (at least to me - but I'm clueless at times). . and the plot was creatively and excellently presented.

[Ed Cunard]

You? I *STILL* can't watch Pet Sematary all the way through, and my kid is grown up now.

I don't mind that one.

I'm not particularly fond of cats.

[Ed Cunard]

Also, I'm starting to fear all this grassroots Ron Paul support. It's getting out of hand.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v435/edcunard/RonPaul.jpg

[Kid Omega]

Now I'm intrigued.

I loved the end to the original Planet of the Apes movie. That depressed the crap out of me too.

Have you read the novella?

[Jared_Humpherys]

I don't mind that one.

I'm not particularly fond of cats.

Or babies, I'd wager.

[Dom]

I don't mind that one.

I'm not particularly fond of cats.

I kill cats for fun.

With my bare hands.

Violently.

[jessecuster3]

Not enough giant-robot-peeing?

And no Jar Jar.

Jesus, compared to those, The Mist had Halloween decorations.

[Ed Cunard]

I kill cats for fun.

With my bare hands.

Violently.

Computer troubles?

[Slam_Bradley]

At the same time, it's totally predictable. My daughter and I laughed about it when we heard there was a dog.

Gee, I wonder what will happen to the dog? And why I put this in spoilers, I have no idea


The same thing that would happen to an Indian companion.

[Matt Algren]

Not enough giant-robot-peeing?If the clip up at rifftrax (http://shop.rifftrax.com/rifftrax/transformers) is representative of the rest of Transformers, I want to go kill myself BEFORE watching it.

(Click the little clapboard.)

[Dom]

Computer troubles?

What? No.

I just hates cat and love Chinese food.

[Typo Lad]

Also, I'm starting to fear all this grassroots Ron Paul support. It's getting out of hand.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v435/edcunard/RonPaul.jpg
Oh dear G-d I'm scared.

[jessecuster3]

I kill cats for fun.

With my bare hands.

Violently.

Take it easy "Dutch".

[HomerJay]

You should completely not see the Mist, then. Aside from it being completely shitty.
He already saw it and liked it.
I did. I thought it had the best acting in a horror film I've seen in YEARS. I'm a HUGE fan of the story and despite a few new moments (that I thought were a bit over-the-top actually), it was remarkably faithful to it.

And yes, being a sensitive & protective dad, the tension literally affected me physically.
Go get THE ROAD, and then prepare to be miserably depressed for days.
Sounds like a fun read.

Not enough giant-robot-peeing?
And no Jar Jar.
You're beautiful men.

[Jared_Humpherys]

Y'know, I've made 3 attempts to make a post in the "Rage Attack" thread, and have stopped myself short each time. Not sure if it's because I don't think it'll be listened to, or because I'm tired of using my own screwed up head as an example.

[Matt Algren]

Also, I'm starting to fear all this grassroots Ron Paul support. It's getting out of hand.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v435/edcunard/RonPaul.jpg
Rest easy. There is no chance on God's green earth of a Republican being elected president next year. NONE. Anybody who tells you different is wrong.

[Typo Lad]

Rest easy. There is no chance on God's green earth of a Republican being elected president next year. NONE. Anybody who tells you different is wrong.
Tell me sir, are you willing to put money on that?

[Ed Cunard]

Oh dear G-d I'm scared.

I want to make one with a certain famous Muhammed Ali quote, but I think that one might be crossing a line.

[HomerJay]

Jesus, compared to those, The Mist had Halloween decorations.
I have no idea what that means.

[Matt Algren]

Tell me sir, are you willing to put money on that?
I ain't a bettin' man, but yes. With the caveat that the wager is null if Hillary Goddamn Clinton is in the race. Downhome conservatives hate her more than they hate Bush right now.

And that's a lot of hate.

[Dreadstar]

Also, I'm starting to fear all this grassroots Ron Paul support. It's getting out of hand.

For that, I will vote for him twice.

[Winslow]

Have you read the novella?

No, but I read somewhere that it's very different form the movie.

I should read more classic sci-fi.

The same thing that would happen to an Indian companion.

Yet another cliche character device.

[Dreadstar]

I don't mind that one.

I'm not particularly fond of cats.

Oh the cats? Enh.

4 year-olds, however...

[Winslow]

I don't mind that one.

I'm not particularly fond of cats.

I'm a dog person also.

But when I owned a cat a few years ago, and began to understand them better, then I saw them as amazing and fantastic creatures.

I'd love to get another cat, but our dog would freak out.

[Slam_Bradley]

I should read more classic sci-fi.


Yes you should. If you're looking for post-apocalyptic, may I suggest Alas Babylon by Pat Frank and Earth Abides by George R. Stewart.

[jessecuster3]

I did. I thought it had the best acting in a horror film I've seen in YEARS. I'm a HUGE fan of the story and despite a few new moments (that I thought were a bit over-the-top actually), it was remarkably faithful to it.

And yes, being a sensitive & protective dad, the tension literally affected me physically.




Oh man, really? I normally love Andre Braugher and thought he did the worst he has ever done. Also: the fucking worst CGI in the history of man, a completely boring overly long waste of celluloid, the dumbest anti-religion agenda I have ever seen. Who the hell says, here strange woman, I want you to physically hold and stroke my child, my supposed dearest possession, who I had very little problem shooting in the face. Oh yeah, not to mention where the hell did the tentacles go, we never saw them again the entire rest of the movie and never learned which creature they came from? Oh ,and I don't care how scared and crazy you become, there is never a rationale for stabbing someone. This movie irrtitaed me so much i cannot even continue bashing it.

[jessecuster3]

I have no idea what that means.


As I said above in my spoilers, the single worst CGI I have ever seen, ever.

[Ed Cunard]

For that, I will vote for him twice.

Dammit! I make funny picture and give comfort and aide to the enemy!

[Dom]

I have no idea what that means.

Then he did it right.

[Tadhg]

Dammit! I make funny picture and give comfort and aide to the enemy!

You made that picture? I'm voting for you.

[Typo Lad]

I ain't a bettin' man, but yes. With the caveat that the wager is null if Hillary Goddamn Clinton is in the race. Downhome conservatives hate her more than they hate Bush right now.

And that's a lot of hate.
Name your terms. I can think of several combinations that result in a Republican White House.

[Dom]

Dammit! I make funny picture and give comfort and aide to the enemy!

If I was American and mentally retarded, I would vote for you.

[Nick Soapdish]

Kara? Is that you?

Is that still in continuity?

I thought that was pretty funny, but IIRC the joke got way overplayed.

[HomerJay]

As I said above in my spoilers, the single worst CGI I have ever seen, ever.
The only points I will agree with you on was the subpar CGI in a few instances, and the stabbing was one of the parts that I thought was over-the-top (that's not in the story). Otherwise, the rest of your points I could counter.

I will not abandon my opinion that it was the best American horror film in at least a decade.

[Matt Algren]

I can think of several combinations that result in a Republican White House.

http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/funny-pictures-my-interest-cat.jpg

[jessecuster3]

The only points I will agree with you on was the subpar CGI in a few instances, and the stabbing was one of the parts that I thought was over-the-top (that's not in the story). Otherwise, the rest of your points I could counter.

Please do, I could think of at least 10 ways that movie could have been better.



Did you watch 1408? How do you compare the two?

[Dr. Hfuhruhurr]

I will not abandon my opinion that it was the best American horror film in at least a decade.

You realize, of course, that now that you've thrown down the gauntlet, we're all going to spend the better part of the day beating you until you admit you're WRONG!

[jessecuster3]

You realize, of course, that now that you've thrown down the gauntlet, we're all going to spend the better part of the day beating you until you admit you're WRONG!

No, that's only if I said it.

[Typo Lad]

Is that still in continuity?

I thought that was pretty funny, but IIRC the joke got way overplayed.

You said the "C" word!

http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/funny-pictures-my-interest-cat.jpg

Let's take it to one of the three thousand political threads.

[Puma]

Someone is having a worse morning than me....


as I pulled in to work I saw a CHP parked in the driveway and a small SUV on its side in the deep open ditch across the road. It was heading westbound on a narrow (12 foot) road but ended up in the south-side ditch. Either the driver was really not paying attention or they pulled out of our driveway way too fast. It's stuck clear to the transmission hub (no skid plate that I could see). No driver around, the CHP is waiting for a tow truck but I think they are busy clearing the main roads.

[Justin D.]

Also, I'm starting to fear all this grassroots Ron Paul support. It's getting out of hand.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v435/edcunard/RonPaul.jpg

It is a little crazy, especially here in Austin, which is in Ron Paul's home state and the center for many grass roots organizations. There are signs everywhere. My girlfriend's brother is made crazy in love with Ron Paul. I want to send him a link to the Ron Paul thread here. I'd have to tell him to ignore the conversation about the Civil War and any comparisons to Dr. Doom though.

[Dr. Hfuhruhurr]

No, that's only if I said it.

I think you're wrong.

[Jared_Humpherys]

It is a little crazy, especially here in Austin, which is in Ron Paul's home state and the center for many grass roots organizations. There are signs everywhere. My girlfriend's brother is made crazy in love with Ron Paul. I want to send him a link to the Ron Paul thread here. I'd have to tell him to ignore the conversation about the Civil War and any comparisons to Dr. Doom though.


He seems to be doing rather well in the KC metro area as well.

go figure.

[Nick Soapdish]

And the stuff about Kyoto.

Hmm. That's not too bad for going off-topic. Only three new topics on a 20 page thread.

[Justin D.]

The only points I will agree with you on was the subpar CGI in a few instances, and the stabbing was one of the parts that I thought was over-the-top (that's not in the story). Otherwise, the rest of your points I could counter.

I will not abandon my opinion that it was the best American horror film in at least a decade.

I'll agree with you. The ending was a bit over-the-top and really should've stopped with David Drayton screaming for the monsters in the mist to come get him after he shot everyone in the car. That would've been such a stronger ending to me. Besides that, I really like the movie. It got a nice, visceral reaction from the crowd. People actually cheered in the theater when Ollie shot the crazy religious bitch. I was one of them.

[Gilda Dent]

Yes you should. If you're looking for post-apocalyptic, may I suggest Alas Babylon by Pat Frank and Earth Abides by George R. Stewart.

If you can find a copy at a used bookstore, there are a couple of good anthologies, The Last Man on Earth and Armageddons that deal with the subject. "A Pail of Air" is in Armageddons.

[Jared_Humpherys]

I'll agree with you. The ending was a bit over-the-top and really should've stopped with David Drayton screaming for the monsters in the mist to come get him after he shot everyone in the car. That would've been such a stronger ending to me. Besides that, I really like the movie. It got a nice, visceral reaction from the crowd. People actually cheered in the theater when Ollie shot the crazy religious bitch. I was one of them.

I agree with you on all points. I also dug

The old lady hitting the crazy b!tch with a can.

[Matt Algren]

You said the "C" word!



Let's take it to one of the three thousand political threads.
I'll check them out, but if I get assaulted by a Mike Smash! or a New Magneto X, I'm blaming you.

[Jared_Humpherys]

I'll check them out, but if I get assaulted by a Mike Smash! or a New Magneto X, I'm blaming you.

If you don't make it, can I have your comics?

[Typo Lad]

I'll check them out, but if I get assaulted by a Mike Smash! or a New Magneto X, I'm blaming you.
What if you enjoy it?

[jessecuster3]

I think you're wrong.

Of course you do.

I'll agree with you. The ending was a bit over-the-top and really should've stopped with David Drayton screaming for the monsters in the mist to come get him after he shot everyone in the car. That would've been such a stronger ending to me. Besides that, I really like the movie. It got a nice, visceral reaction from the crowd.


The movie should have stopped when the car ran out of gas, noone needed the thought of him shooting his only child especially right before he gets saved.


People actually cheered in the theater when Ollie shot the crazy religious bitch. I was one of them.

I agree with you on all points. I also dug

The old lady hitting the crazy b!tch with a can.

This was a huge problem for me, no matter how desperate and crazy the situation was, noone would follow the crazy lady. They had already established the locals vs. vacationers rivalry, why not have a local minister or priest in the store and then really create moral and ethical situations by who sides with him and god vs science, etc. Instead they copped out and made it as anti-religious as possible.

[Slam_Bradley]

I gave in to the rage.

[Agent Helix]

It's all the rage.

[jessecuster3]

I still have to say the CGI that resembled bad Halloween decorations completely pulled me out of the story.


Also, I think 1408 was a far better movie, because they did not feel the need to show you and explain everything, but was still sufficiently creepy.

[Puma]

I gave in to the rage.

but you were polite

[Justin D.]

The movie should have stopped when the car ran out of gas, noone needed the thought of him shooting his only child especially right before he gets saved.

You're essentially agreeing with me though because the part you seem to like the least is when the army shows up at the end. The original story ended as they drove under the huge creature.

This was a huge problem for me, no matter how desperate and crazy the situation was, noone would follow the crazy lady. They had already established the locals vs. vacationers rivalry, why not have a local minister or priest in the store and then really create moral and ethical situations by who sides with him and god vs science, etc. Instead they copped out and made it as anti-religious as possible.

I don't see that as that difficult to believe. Because of what was happening, they thought it was the end of the world. At that point, I can believe people would freak out during what is, in their minds, the apocalypse. It wasn't anti-religious. It was anti-fanatic.

Besides the very ending and the stabbing, the movie was quite loyal to the original story.

[Puma]

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[JeffreyWKramer]

I gave in to the rage.

I think I'm going in the other direction. Unless he gives some sign that responding in his repetitive threads of that type is something other than a huge fucking waste of time, I don't think I'm going to bother responding any more to this one or any future ones.

Or maybe I'll just post a link to the previous versions of the thread.

[Dom]

I gave in to the rage.

I didn't, despite the fact I was going to say the same thing you did.

[Agent Helix]

Two more days, then my ridiculous holidays start.

[Tadhg]

Two more days, then my ridiculous holidays start.


Ridiculous? Do they only give you 6 hours off, or 60 days?

[jessecuster3]

You're essentially agreeing with me though because the part you seem to like the least is when the army shows up at the end. The original story ended as they drove under the huge creature.



I don't see that as that difficult to believe. Because of what was happening, they thought it was the end of the world. At that point, I can believe people would freak out during what is, in their minds, the apocalypse. It wasn't anti-religious. It was anti-fanatic.



The part I liked the least was every single minute after Thomas Jane tries to convince Andre Braugher about the tentacles that ahd just killed the bag boy


I disagree, it is needlessly a slam against organized religion saying that it is started by crazy people and breeds craziness within it. I don't really care if its straight from the novella it doesn't make that good, either.

[Matt Algren]

What if you enjoy it?
This isn't the first time you've talked someone into doing something, is it? Because that's a darn good response.

[JeffreyWKramer]

Two more days, then my ridiculous holidays start.

Do you mean you're going to take a holiday from being ridiculous, or what?

[Agent Helix]

Ridiculous? Do they only give you 6 hours off, or 60 days?

Do you mean you're going to take a holiday from being ridiculous, or what?

Where I work, we pretty much have all our paid holidays at the end of the year, so I get two weeks off straight for Christmas and New Year's without having to use any additional vacation time.

[Puma]

They got the SUV out of the ditch and...they broke a water line when they crashed. Looks like a geyser out there.

[Jared_Humpherys]

Two more days, then my ridiculous holidays start.

Friday for me. I'm very excited.

[Tadhg]

Where I work, we pretty much have all our paid holidays at the end of the year, so I get two weeks off straight for Christmas and New Year's without having to use any additional vacation time.

Nice. I have to work 3 days of the 2 weeks, so I'm pretty happy about that. Then after the new year, overtime starts again. Yay for 60 hour weeks.

[JeffreyWKramer]

I have Xmas day and NY day off, plus the weekends as usual, otherwise am working through the holidays.

[jessecuster3]

Friday for me. I'm very excited.


Apprehensive for me. Of course, Friday we start driving down to where my girlfriend is from and I spend Christmas with her family, so apprehensive works, I think.

[Jared_Humpherys]

As part of our holiday plans, Sarah and I are having a big dinner New Year's Eve at this real expensive seafood place. Oyster bar, lobster...oh yeah.

[Jared_Humpherys]

Apprehensive for me. Of course, Friday we start driving down to where my girlfriend is from and I spend the holidays with her family, so apprehensive works, I think.

We're spending Christmas with Sarah's family. As I've said before, I like them better than I do my own family at the moment, so I'm actually quite enthusiastic.

[Ray R.]

No, that's only if I said it.

Victimization complex much?

Good god. 4 times already today.

[Agent Helix]

I'm spending Christmas at home, where it's quiet and I can drink cider and rum.

[Ray R.]

Hurm.....afternoon all.

[jessecuster3]

We're spending Christmas with Sarah's family. As I've said before, I like them better than I do my own family at the moment, so I'm actually quite enthusiastic.

I have met her parents and her sister before so that should be ok, its the having to be a country mouse when I am clearly a city mouse that worries me.

[Puma]

We're spending Christmas with Sarah's family. As I've said before, I like them better than I do my own family at the moment, so I'm actually quite enthusiastic.

We are heading up to Oregon for a week to spend Christmas with my Dad and his new wife. I've met her once, at the wedding, she seems nice. And her daughter, and her daughter's new husband. So, essentially Christmas with three strangers, my husband, and my Dad. On the plus side we won't be at my Dad's house (which was my Mom and Dad's) but at a resort rental house, still, there's some apprehension.

[Jared_Humpherys]

Oh, I normally don't like ham much(only pork I'll eat is bacon), but Sarah insisted on picking up a Honeybaked Ham this year in addition to the turkey(no Turducken, sadly), and she insists they are quite good. She's insisting I try some for Christmas dinner. Anyone ever had one?

[Agent Helix]

Oh, I normally don't like ham much(only pork I'll eat is bacon), but Sarah insisted on picking up a Honeybaked Ham this year in addition to the turkey(no Turducken, sadly), and she insists they are quite good. She's insisting I try some for Christmas dinner. Anyone ever had one?

They're not bad, but it's not going to change your mind on ham.

Now a good pork tenderloin...

[Jared_Humpherys]

Hurm.....afternoon all.

Hiya Ray.

I have met her parents and her sister before so that should be ok, its the having to be a country mouse when I am clearly a city mouse that worries me.

Sarah's family are all country mouses. So's my extended family. In my experience, it doesn't matter much.

We are heading up to Oregon for a week to spend Christmas with my Dad and his new wife. I've met her once, at the wedding, she seems nice. And her daughter, and her daughter's new husband. So, essentially Christmas with three strangers, my husband, and my Dad. On the plus side we won't be at my Dad's house (which was my Mom and Dad's) but at a resort rental house, still, there's some apprehension.

Hope it goes well, Puma!

[jessecuster3]

Sarah's family are all country mouses. So's my extended family. In my experience, it doesn't matter much.



They absolutely do not drink and have no Cable TV, the closest anything is a good 20 to 30 minutes away by car, I will never get used to any of that.

[Ray R.]

Finally watched Bourne Ultimatum last night.

Pretty darn good, overall. Not sure I understand a lick of continuity from one flick to the next, but I think they're kind of making it up as they go along. Still better in its worst expositiony part than any part of Die Hard IV. I credit the director, Paul Greengrass, for that. He does excellent kinetic action sequences that feel like you're observing the action like a wartime correspondent. The pacing is crisp, the big set pieces (filmed on actual locations, not Vancouver stand-ins) are entertaining, and from the credits it looked like they had about 150 stunt men in 6 different countries. This is what I'm looking for in a popcorn movie. Something that doesn't make my brain hurt.

I've got Charlton Heston's Omega Man, The Treasure of the Sierra Madre, and Battlestar Galactica: Razor coming in a few days. Speaking of BSG, but is it me, or is the third season completely about allusions to real-life "big issues" like torture, racism, and particularly marriage and family? Besides the Algae planet story, they've barely left the bridge of the Galactica

[Typo Lad]

They absolutely do not drink and have no Cable TV, the closest anything is a good 20 to 30 minutes away by car, I will never get used to any of that.
That sounds like heaven to me.

Suzannah would go postal in an hour.

[Ray R.]

Oh, I normally don't like ham much(only pork I'll eat is bacon), but Sarah insisted on picking up a Honeybaked Ham this year in addition to the turkey(no Turducken, sadly), and she insists they are quite good. She's insisting I try some for Christmas dinner. Anyone ever had one?

Honeybaked hams are good. Make sure you give yourself some time to heat it up sufficiently before serving. I also put a few pineapple slices on in the last fifteen to twenty minutes of cooking. Spiral cut is optimal for cutting nice pieces off the bone.

[jessecuster3]

Finally watched Bourne Ultimatum last night.

Pretty darn good, overall. Not sure I understand a lick of continuity from one flick to the next, but I think they're kind of making it up as they go along. Still better in its worst expositiony part than any part of Die Hard IV. I credit the director, Paul Greengrass, for that. He does excellent kinetic action sequences that feel like you're observing the action like a wartime correspondent. The pacing is crisp, the big set pieces (filmed on actual locations, not Vancouver stand-ins) are entertaining, and from the credits it looked like they had about 150 stunt men in 6 different countries. This is what I'm looking for in a popcorn movie. Something that doesn't make my brain hurt.

I've got Charlton Heston's Omega Man, The Treasure of the Sierra Madre, and Battlestar Galactica: Razor coming in a few days. Speaking of BSG, but is it me, or is the third season completely about allusions to real-life "big issues" like torture, racism, and particularly marriage and family? Besides the Algae planet story, they've barely left the bridge of the Galactica

Yeah, I feel like watching all 3 of them in order to see how well they flow, I still think they are the best action movies being made in a long time.


A couple of my friends watched Omega Man recently before we all saw I Am Legend, they liked Omega better.

[jessecuster3]

That sounds like heaven to me.

Suzannah would go postal in an hour.

I am in Suzannah's shoes, as well. I do have a ton of reading, plus a couple games to finish on my PSP, I should be fine.

[Justin D.]

The part I liked the least was every single minute after Thomas Jane tries to convince Andre Braugher about the tentacles that ahd just killed the bag boy


I disagree, it is needlessly a slam against organized religion saying that it is started by crazy people and breeds craziness within it. I don't really care if its straight from the novella it doesn't make that good, either.

Oh, well. I don't see it that way.


My vacation starts tomorrow and lasts until Jan. 3. So far today, I've done absolutely no work. I have a bunch I need to do before I leave to, but I can't bring myself to get any done. Instead, I'm posting here and playing Scrabble games. Anyone up for some more?

[Jared_Humpherys]

Honeybaked hams are good. Make sure you give yourself some time to heat it up sufficiently before serving. I also put a few pineapple slices on in the last fifteen to twenty minutes of cooking. Spiral cut is optimal for cutting nice pieces off the bone.

Pineapples, huh? That sounds like a good idea.

[Matt Algren]

Apprehensive for me. Of course, Friday we start driving down to where my girlfriend is from and I spend Christmas with her family, so apprehensive works, I think.You're driving? Wow, that's a long way. Be careful at the US 75/US 70 interchange, assuming you're going that way. They're (still) in the middle of a huge construction project and it's a mess.

I'm still not sure about this weekend, so you'd better just plan it without a meetup. Next time.

Oh, I normally don't like ham much(only pork I'll eat is bacon), but Sarah insisted on picking up a Honeybaked Ham this year in addition to the turkey(no Turducken, sadly), and she insists they are quite good. She's insisting I try some for Christmas dinner. Anyone ever had one?They're good, depending on what you get. If you get one of the precooked, squeezed, trimmed things, it'll have a lot less flavor. If you get a ham with a bone and some fat in it, you'll be in hog heaven. Pun intended.

I have met her parents and her sister before so that should be ok, its the having to be a country mouse when I am clearly a city mouse that worries me.

They absolutely do not drink and have no Cable TV, the closest anything is a good 20 to 30 minutes away by car, I will never get used to any of that.You'll be right there by the budding metropolis that is Springfield, Ohio though! Come on! You haven't lived until you've visited our Upper Valley Mall, boasting no less than six shoe stores and two pretzel booths!

And what about our collection of half closed strip malls and sandwich shops? And our half burnt down old factory right in the middle of town that they won't tear down because somebody decided it's a landmark or something? That's history, man!

[Puma]

Oh, I normally don't like ham much(only pork I'll eat is bacon), but Sarah insisted on picking up a Honeybaked Ham this year in addition to the turkey(no Turducken, sadly), and she insists they are quite good. She's insisting I try some for Christmas dinner. Anyone ever had one?

I don't really like pork (except for the occasional BLT) so I prefer prime rib or shellfish for Christmas dinner.

[Ray R.]

Yeah, I feel like watching all 3 of them in order to see how well they flow, I still think they are the best action movies being made in a long time.

I would tend to agree. Damon doesn't need to stretch much acting-wise like he did in The Departed, but laconic, superhuman characters have always been a staple in action flicks. Doug Liman started a nice little franchise with Ludlum's books. Joan Allen is a good recurring character, and Julia Stiles is weirdly hot. Her face is strange-looking and has weird expressions, but at least she doesn't talk much. And again, the direction was exceptional.


A couple of my friends watched Omega Man recently before we all saw I Am Legend, they liked Omega better.

Did you like I Am Legend? I'm hearing mixed reviews. I always like me some Chuck Heston, and I haven't seen Omega Man since I saw an edited version on Channel 9 or 11 out of New York probably twenty years ago.

[jessecuster3]

Oh, well. I don't see it that way.


Wait, crazy lady whips up a fury and all of her followers resort to their basest instincts and are willing to kill people for their cause and you don;t see it as an overt slam against religion?

You're driving? Wow, that's a long way. Be careful at the US 75/US 70 interchange, assuming you're going that way. They're (still) in the middle of a huge construction project and it's a mess.

You'll be right there by the budding metropolis that is Springfield, Ohio though! Come on! You haven't lived until you've visited our Upper Valley Mall, boasting no less than six shoe stores and two pretzel booths!

And what about our collection of half closed strip malls and sandwich shops? And our half burnt down old factory right in the middle of town that they won't tear down because somebody decided it's a landmark or something? That's history, man!


Its supposed to be a 5 hour drive, possibly 6. I can do that in my sleep, I am a road trip pro.

Oh and thanks for proving my apprehension.

[Ray R.]

Pineapples, huh? That sounds like a good idea.

Sweet glaze from fresh fruit (maraschino cherries inserted with toothpicks also works) really brings out the ham's flavors, I've noticed. Provides a more complex taste for your palate. I use a ton of brown mustard too, after trying a couple of pieces plain.

[Agent Helix]

Did you like I Am Legend? I'm hearing mixed reviews. I always like me some Chuck Heston, and I haven't seen Omega Man since I saw an edited version on Channel 9 or 11 out of New York probably twenty years ago.

Have you seen the Vincent Price version, "Last Man on Earth"? It's a really great performance.

[Matt Algren]

That sounds like heaven to me.

Suzannah would go postal in an hour.This is my world. The best part of where I am is that I'm about fifteen or so minutes from five different large towns and 30 minutes from the nearest city. I have access, but I can't hear the highway and I can see the stars and listen to the quiet on a summer night.

[jessecuster3]

Did you like I Am Legend? I'm hearing mixed reviews. I always like me some Chuck Heston, and I haven't seen Omega Man since I saw an edited version on Channel 9 or 11 out of New York probably twenty years ago.


I did like it very much, I thought the post-apocalyptic stuff was done very well, I especially enjoyed the bit with the mannequins. I was very happy with how little flashback was used, and with the ending.

[Nick Soapdish]

Finally watched Bourne Ultimatum last night.

Pretty darn good, overall. Not sure I understand a lick of continuity from one flick to the next, but I think they're kind of making it up as they go along. Still better in its worst expositiony part than any part of Die Hard IV. I credit the director, Paul Greengrass, for that. He does excellent kinetic action sequences that feel like you're observing the action like a wartime correspondent. The pacing is crisp, the big set pieces (filmed on actual locations, not Vancouver stand-ins) are entertaining, and from the credits it looked like they had about 150 stunt men in 6 different countries. This is what I'm looking for in a popcorn movie. Something that doesn't make my brain hurt.


I really liked the movie also. And I think the continuity mostly worked.

In the second movie, he had found out the names of a lot of his targets through newspaper clippings, but in the third, he doesn't know their names.

I can't buy that Julia Stiles is old enough (or wunderkind enough) to be Bourne's handler for 8 years. Did she start when she was 18 or something?

There were a few other minor things that bothered me. But I don't expect perfection so I loved the movies.

[Jared_Humpherys]

Wait, crazy lady whips up a fury and all of her followers resort to their basest instincts and are willing to kill people for their cause and you don;t see it as an overt slam against religion?







No, because they establish at the film's outset that her beliefs are radical and outside the norm.

The movie isn't saying that all religious folk are like that. You're the one putting those prejudices on it.

[Ray R.]

Have you seen the Vincent Price version, "Last Man on Earth"? It's a really great performance.

No. Thanks for the rec.

Maybe, in the spirit of post-apocalyptic fun, I can do a triple-feature with that, Omega Man and "A Boy And His Dog" (which is based on a Harlan Ellison novella), which I also haven't seen in forever.

No Postman, though. Unless I can't sleep.

[Matt Algren]

Oh and thanks for proving my apprehension.I tried to think of something interesting or exciting in town, but nope. It's just not there. Springfield is a very gray place.

[Fish Sauce]

Sitting and waiting for High School results to be released at two in the morning is not fun.

As for the Bourne movies, I still need to watch them. :(

[Agent Helix]

No. Thanks for the rec.



Bear in mind, it's zero-budget, slow-paced, and arguably not really all that well made, but it's one of Price's best performances. As I'm half-convinced that Vincent Price was the greatest person to ever live, that's enough for me.

[Typo Lad]

This is my world. The best part of where I am is that I'm about fifteen or so minutes from five different large towns and 30 minutes from the nearest city. I have access, but I can't hear the highway and I can see the stars and listen to the quiet on a summer night.
Sounds like my grandparent's place. I love it. No-one but my mom seems to "get" why I want to live there one day, in the middle of upstate NY with nowhere to go.

Man, give me a High Speed connection and a cart to take things home from the corner store and I'm set.

[jessecuster3]

No, because they establish at the film's outset that her beliefs are radical and outside the norm.

The movie isn't saying that all religious folk are like that. You're the one putting those prejudices on it.


Are you kidding they establish her as Christian from the word go. Plus, all of the praying to God in the bathroom is kind of a dead giveaway.


I just think it was screwy that anyone at all would follow her, if they all knew she was a nutcase.

[Ray R.]

I really liked the movie also. And I think the continuity mostly worked.

In the second movie, he had found out the names of a lot of his targets through newspaper clippings, but in the third, he doesn't know their names.

Yup. I thought there was some narrative closure after the second movie, but apparently it just opened up more. It's a pretty convenient plot device to have, where your protagonist shakes off just enough amnesia to remember he needs to be absolutely driven to get revenge.

I can't buy that Julia Stiles is old enough (or wunderkind enough) to be Bourne's handler for 8 years. Did she start when she was 18 or something?

8 years? I didn't catch that. She didn't look much older than 22 or 23 in Ultimatum, a college kid basically. Missed that plot point altogether. I just remembered she and Joan Allen tried to track him down in the second movie.

There were a few other minor things that bothered me. But I don't expect perfection so I loved the movies.

Yeah. I'm willing to let a lot slide in a popcorn flick if the action sequences keep my interest and don't insult my intelligence in terms of ridiculousness and inanity. So far, the Bourne flicks have kept a really good balance of "believable" tension, suspense and action.

[Jeff Brady]

Morning, fuckers.

I hate you all.

[Jared_Humpherys]

Are you kidding they establish her as Christian from the word go. Plus, all of the praying to God in the bathroom is kind of a dead giveaway.


I just think it was screwy that anyone at all would follow her, if they all knew she was a nutcase.

Actually, when he's talking to the checkout clerk, the clerk says aloud that her beliefs are not in mainstream. Heck the old lady who beans the crazy with the can says she herself is a Christian.

You're just getting offended for the sake of being offended. It's not there.

[Ray R.]

Bear in mind, it's zero-budget, slow-paced, and arguably not really all that well made, but it's one of Price's best performances. As I'm half-convinced that Vincent Price was the greatest person to ever live, that's enough for me.

He's a hell of a good performer. I can close my eyes and see scenes from "The Pit and the Pendulum" and "Masque of the Red Death" -- Poe stories I love -- being masterfully and crazily acted out by Price. He really is an iconic figure with amazing screen presence.

[Puma]

They absolutely do not drink and have no Cable TV, the closest anything is a good 20 to 30 minutes away by car, I will never get used to any of that.

Where I live and work

http://pics4.city-data.com/cpicc/cfiles24024.jpg

Nearest movie theater is 30 minutes away, nearest decent ()not over-priced because of location) grocery shopping- 30 minutes. Nearest 'big' city Santa Cruz 40 minutes. Near BIG city, San Jose, 50 minutes.
Most of town has cable and DSL but once you start moving out it's satellite dishes and dial-up.

[Justin D.]

Wait, crazy lady whips up a fury and all of her followers resort to their basest instincts and are willing to kill people for their cause and you don;t see it as an overt slam against religion?

I can see how it can be taken like that, but it's just not how I see it. It came off more as a slam against fanaticism and people's ability to give up control to a greater power without questioning it. Also, it was a twist on the "there are no atheists in foxholes" saying.


Its supposed to be a 5 hour drive, possibly 6. I can do that in my sleep, I am a road trip pro.

We have an 11 to 12 hour drive ahead of us. Kristina's family lives in North Mississippi, so we'll stay at her grandmother's house in Peppertown. However, we'll visit her aunt, uncle, and cousins in Mantachie. Yes, Mantachie. Say it out loud. Mantachie. I love the name of that town. It sounds dirty.

[Ray R.]

Where I live and work

http://pics4.city-data.com/cpicc/cfiles24024.jpg

Nearest movie theater is 30 minutes away, nearest decent ()not over-priced because of location) grocery shopping- 30 minutes. Nearest 'big' city Santa Cruz 40 minutes. Near BIG city, San Jose, 50 minutes.
Most of town has cable and DSL but once you start moving out it's satellite dishes and dial-up.

That actually looks pretty nice and bucolic, as far as California goes.

[Puma]

That actually looks pretty nice and bucolic, as far as California goes.

We have hippies, white supremacists, professionals, bums, motorcycle gangs, meth labs, yuppies, rastas, soccer moms, and the like; but yeah, it's pretty bucolic for Central California.

[jessecuster3]

Actually, when he's talking to the checkout clerk, the clerk says aloud that her beliefs are not in mainstream. Heck the old lady who beans the crazy with the can says she herself is a Christian.

You're just getting offended for the sake of being offended. It's not there.

You are confused, I am offended by the bad storytelling, not that it is anti-religious.

[Nick Soapdish]

Yup. I thought there was some narrative closure after the second movie, but apparently it just opened up more. It's a pretty convenient plot device to have, where your protagonist shakes off just enough amnesia to remember he needs to be absolutely driven to get revenge.


The closure at the end of the second was Joan Allen giving him some information on his past. They actually worked that into the third with the false birthdate.

Not sure I follow your remembering to be absolutely driven point. He was driven because he was ticked about Marie's death and without her around, he didn't have anything better to do than to get that revenge.



8 years? I didn't catch that. She didn't look much older than 22 or 23 in Ultimatum, a college kid basically. Missed that plot point altogether. I just remembered she and Joan Allen tried to track him down in the second movie.


They said that she was there from the start (or maybe Bourne did) and that they ran his life for 8 years. He was asking her about his first job - the one that was off the books.

I'd like to see the deluxe DVD because they have a bit explaining her role better and I'd like to know how well they do it.


Yeah. I'm willing to let a lot slide in a popcorn flick if the action sequences keep my interest and don't insult my intelligence in terms of ridiculousness and inanity. So far, the Bourne flicks have kept a really good balance of "believable" tension, suspense and action.

I'm even willing for them to insult my intelligence with ridiculous action sequences, up to an extent. But yeah, I prefer that balance rather than just going nuts with special effects.

[Justin D.]

Are you kidding they establish her as Christian from the word go. Plus, all of the praying to God in the bathroom is kind of a dead giveaway.


I just think it was screwy that anyone at all would follow her, if they all knew she was a nutcase.

You are confused, I am offended by the bad storytelling, not that it is anti-religious.

Then, you're focusing on an anti-religious stance that doesn't exist, and it's clouded your view of the rest of the movie.

[jessecuster3]

Where I live and work

Nearest movie theater is 30 minutes away, nearest decent ()not over-priced because of location) grocery shopping- 30 minutes. Nearest 'big' city Santa Cruz 40 minutes. Near BIG city, San Jose, 50 minutes.
Most of town has cable and DSL but once you start moving out it's satellite dishes and dial-up.

From what I understand, the nearest anything is a good 15 minutes away, even neighbors.

[jessecuster3]

Then, you're focusing on an anti-religious stance that doesn't exist, and it's clouded your view of the rest of the movie.

Oh it exists alright, its just stupid.

[Jared_Humpherys]

Then, you're focusing on an anti-religious stance that doesn't exist, and it's clouded your view of the rest of the movie.

Ditto that.

[Justin D.]

Oh it exists alright, its just stupid.

You're right. It does exist.





In your head.

[jessecuster3]

You're right. It does exist.





In your head.

So you are saying there is nothing anti-religious about the movie?

[Jared_Humpherys]

So you are saying there is nothing anti-religious about the movie?

That's what we've both been saying and giving examples of for the last few posts, yes.

[Dom]

That's what we've both been saying and giving examples of for the last few posts, yes.

Wait.

Concrete examples based on factual, provable evidence?

That has no credibility.

[jessecuster3]

That's what we've both been saying and giving examples of for the last few posts, yes.

See that's bullshit, then what is the point of the crazy lady inducing the rest of the store patrons to follow her lead and sacrifice and kill at least one person, with plans for many more? Why does she specifically refernce heaven and hell and those who will be saved, etc.? She is fringe or radical for sure but she believes in her own brand of Christianity and teaches her disciples to do the same.


Go back and look at the way she "converts" to her cause and they way she whips them into a frenzy and tell me how Darabont/King are not ridiculing religion.

[Justin D.]

Wait.

Concrete examples based on factual, provable evidence?

That has no credibility.

I feel like a guest on The Colbert Report.


In other news, I gnomed myself (http://www.gnomeyourself.com/NFDANW).

[Dom]

So you are saying there is nothing anti-religious about the movie?

Wow.

You understood was Justin was saying despite the subtle language he was using?

[Justin D.]

See that's bullshit, then what is the point of the crazy lady inducing the rest of the store patrons to follow her lead and sacrifice and kill at least one person, with plans for many more? Why does she specifically refernce heaven and hell and those who will be saved, etc.? She is fringe or radical for sure but she believes in her own brand of Christianity and teaches her disciples to do the same.


Go back and look at the way she "converts" to her cause and they way she whips them into a frenzy and tell me how Darabont/King are not ridiculing religion.

I read what you said, and it comes off as you arguing for the point Jared and I are trying to make. Thanks.

[Dreadstar]

See that's bullshit, then what is the point of the crazy lady inducing the rest of the store patrons to follow her lead and sacrifice and kill at least one person, with plans for many more? Why does she specifically refernce heaven and hell and those who will be saved, etc.? She is fringe or radical for sure but she believes in her own brand of Christianity and teaches her disciples to do the same.

It's not a "message" per se, it's a plot advancement. It's simply a mechanism for conflict.

[jessecuster3]

I read what you said, and it comes off as you arguing for the point Jared and I are trying to make. Thanks.

How do you figure?

[Jared_Humpherys]

See that's bullshit, then what is the point of the crazy lady inducing the rest of the store patrons to follow her lead and sacrifice and kill at least one person, with plans for many more? Why does she specifically refernce heaven and hell and those who will be saved, etc.? She is fringe or radical for sure but she believes in her own brand of Christianity and teaches her disciples to do the same.


Go back and look at the way she "converts" to her cause and they way she whips them into a frenzy and tell me how Darabont/King are not ridiculing religion.

You even admit in your own post that she is a radical, and you still claim the movie condemns religion?

Religion and extremism are not the same thing. This movie is a like a zombie film in that it shows humanity at its worst. This has absolutely nothing to do with religion in general.

[jessecuster3]

It's not a "message" per se, it's a plot advancement. It's simply a mechanism for conflict.

No way, if they wanted to do that, they would have left Andre Braugher's group in the store and had the locals vs vacationers Lord of the Flies.

[Dom]

You even admit in your own post that she is a radical, and you still claim the movie condemns religion?

Religion and extremism are not the same thing. This movie is a like a zombie film in that it shows humanity at its worst. This has absolutely nothing to do with religion in general.

Zombie movies are just a vehicle for the message that all humans want to do is eat the brains of other humans.

Organized humanism is the worst.

[Nick Soapdish]

Where I live and work

http://pics4.city-data.com/cpicc/cfiles24024.jpg

Nearest movie theater is 30 minutes away, nearest decent ()not over-priced because of location) grocery shopping- 30 minutes. Nearest 'big' city Santa Cruz 40 minutes. Near BIG city, San Jose, 50 minutes.
Most of town has cable and DSL but once you start moving out it's satellite dishes and dial-up.

I was all set to make a remark about the lack of phone lines in the picture, but you had to mention the DSL and cable.

[jessecuster3]

You even admit in your own post that she is a radical, and you still claim the movie condemns religion?

Religion and extremism are not the same thing. This movie is a like a zombie film in that it shows humanity at its worst. This has absolutely nothing to do with religion in general.

Do you not see that it is exactly how it was in history with people who nowadays we would consider freaks and weirdos, but then were able to generate enough followers to establish their own branches of Christianity? Its old school, dude, not currently active.

[Jared_Humpherys]

No way, if they wanted to do that, they would have left Andre Braugher's group in the store and had the locals vs vacationers Lord of the Flies.

So because they didn't conform precisely to the way YOU would do it, they MUST be bigoted against all religious people?

[Justin D.]

It's not a "message" per se, it's a plot advancement. It's simply a mechanism for conflict.

Thank you for saying plot advancement and not plot-induced stupidity.

[jessecuster3]

Oh yes, and Lord of the Flies was just about kids being trapped on island.

[Dreadstar]

No way, if they wanted to do that, they would have left Andre Braugher's group in the store and had the locals vs vacationers Lord of the Flies.

Consider the source (King). He wrote the story as an "end of the world" pastiche.

What's the most famous "end of the world" story? How could there *not* be someone in the story who doesn't reference Revelations? To King, that was probably an illogical thought, in and of itself. And thus, it became a much more natural pivot for conflict, or if not more natural, more interesting to King.

[Matt Algren]

I was all set to make a remark about the lack of phone lines in the picture, but you had to mention the DSL and cable.
Man, I wish we could be without power lines. Our phone lines went underground years ago, but the electric still runs above. Every couple years they come by and trim my trees to X feet away from the wires. They butcher them every single time.

They were finally out last week. It'll be a year or three until my front trees look decent again.

(And the trees were there first. I say they should have to move the power lines. grumblegrumblegrumble)

[Dreadstar]

Thank you for saying plot advancement and not plot-induced stupidity.

HAR!


But in keeping with full disclosure, you have to know that I don't consider the two ideas to be mutually exclusive.

[Jared_Humpherys]

Do you not see that it is exactly how it was in history with people who nowadays we would consider freaks and weirdos, but then were able to generate enough followers to establish their own branches of Christianity? Its old school, dude, not currently active.

Okay, whatever. You're proven to me that you're completely unwilling to listen to any other perspective on this but your own, regardless of the facts.

[jessecuster3]

So because they didn't conform precisely to the way YOU would do it, they MUST be bigoted against all religious people?

Oh crap I give up, this is way too much time on something that I care very little about.

[jessecuster3]

Okay, whatever. You're proven to me that you're completely unwilling to listen to any other perspective on this but your own, regardless of the facts.

Hey kettle you are black, too you know. Open your mind that its not just what is shown on screen or written down, read a little deeper sometimes.

[Matt Algren]

Still nicotine free, Dread?

[Typo Lad]

Mmm.... melt-downy.

[Puma]

Man, I wish we could be without power lines. Our phone lines went underground years ago, but the electric still runs above. Every couple years they come by and trim my trees to X feet away from the wires. They butcher them every single time.

They were finally out last week. It'll be a year or three until my front trees look decent again.

(And the trees were there first. I say they should have to move the power lines. grumblegrumblegrumble)

Downtown has underground wires but because the whole place is a giant redwood forest, the power goes out all the time. I'm expecting it to do so today, we have winds and fairly heavy rain. That usually means an outage.

[Winslow]

Consider the source (King). He wrote the story as an "end of the world" pastiche.

What's the most famous "end of the world" story? How could there *not* be someone in the story who doesn't reference Revelations? To King, that was probably an illogical thought, in and of itself. And thus, it became a much more natural pivot for conflict, or if not more natural, more interesting to King.

True.

Even Akira has some Judeo-Christian imagery in it.

Or maybe it's just archetype stuff every culture has.

[Dreadstar]

Still nicotine free, Dread?

No. I'm chewing acrylic as we speak/type. BUT! This is my first of the day, and I should be down to 2/day by this weekend.

[jessecuster3]

The only thing left that noone has answered is what were the tentacles attached to, and where did that creature go?

[Winslow]

Still nicotine free, Dread?

Way to remind him ass hole.

[Justin D.]

Oh yes, and Lord of the Flies was just about kids being trapped on island.

Hey kettle you are black, too you know. Open your mind that its not just what is shown on screen or written down, read a little deeper sometimes.

I was going to say that we've been repeatedly saying that the movie was more than just the surface level stuff that appeared on the screen, but that still doesn't make it the anti-religious screed you've claimed it is.

Then, I saw these.

Okay, whatever. You're proven to me that you're completely unwilling to listen to any other perspective on this but your own, regardless of the facts.

Oh crap I give up, this is way too much time on something that I care very little about.

Yay! Mutual concession!

[howyadoin]

So, was there a board upgrade that made spoiler tags stop working?

[jessecuster3]

So, was there a board upgrade that made spoiler tags stop working?

Sorry man. We should have done them a few times above.

[Jared_Humpherys]

So, was there a board upgrade that made spoiler tags stop working?

Sorry, howy.

[howyadoin]

Sorry man. We should have done them a few times above.No shit. Were you all too busy being offended?

[Justin D.]

The only thing left that noone has answered is what were the tentacles attached to, and where did that creature go?

Why does it matter? If it makes you feel better, imagine it was some cthulu-looking creature that wandered away when it saw someone running across the street. That scene showed a monster and instilled an ever-looming sense of dread and fear for the characters and audience. That's what matters most.

[Dom]

No. I'm chewing acrylic as we speak/type. BUT! This is my first of the day, and I should be down to 2/day by this weekend.

GREAT SUCCESS!!!

So, was there a board upgrade that made spoiler tags stop working?

Rosebud was his sled.

[Justin D.]

So, was there a board upgrade that made spoiler tags stop working?

I tried to use them whenever I could. What slipped through? Is it the part about end of the world stuff? That doesn't give anything away and was seen in the trailers and commercials. Our bad though.

I think I saw a spoiler for I am Legend earlier. That was annoying.

[Matt Algren]

No. I'm chewing acrylic as we speak/type. BUT! This is my first of the day, and I should be down to 2/day by this weekend.
I hear slowly is the least painful way to go.
Way to remind him ass hole.But I didn't mention the delicious flavor of his favorite brand!

[Jared_Humpherys]

And in the Passion of the Christ?

Jesus dies.


Actually, I thought howy was originally referring to the unspoilered assumptions Alex and I made about "I am Legend" earlier. I'm sorry for that.

[Dreadstar]

But I didn't mention the delicious flavor of his favorite brand!

Favorite brand?

Bah.

I'm drooling at the thought of all the varieties: the bold fullness of a Winston, the harsh but satisfying lingering of a Camel, the roasty robust taste of a Marlboro, a minty Salem, a tart and piquant B&H, the clean exotic Dunhill...






...damn you.

[jessecuster3]

Why does it matter? If it makes you feel better, imagine it was some cthulu-looking creature that wandered away when it saw someone running across the street. That scene showed a monster and instilled an ever-looming sense of dread and fear for the characters and audience. That's what matters most.

No, that was the best part of the movie for a reason, it only hinted at what was coming, which would have been infinitely better than what they did show.

[Ray R.]

Hmmm.....we seem to be cornering the market on pissy and bitchy today, aren't we.

[Dreadstar]

Hmmm.....we seem to be cornering the market on pissy and bitchy today, aren't we.

I'll sell my shares at half face value.

[jessecuster3]

Favorite brand?

Bah.

I'm drooling at the thought of all the varieties: the bold fullness of a Winston, the harsh but satisfying lingering of a Camel, the roasty robust taste of a Marlboro, a minty Salem, a tart and piquant B&H, the clean exotic Dunhill...






...damn you.

Celebrate, you are no longer choking and poisoning yourself, every day now more and more bits of you are growing back, everything you eat will taste better.

[Dreadstar]

Celebrate, you are no longer choking and poisoning yourself, every day now more and more bits of you are growing back, everything you eat will taste better.

But ... but ... A Pall Mall, for godssakes!

[jessecuster3]

But ... but ... A Pall Mall, for godssakes!

Seriosuly, if you get a chance you should pick this book (http://www.amazon.com/Easy-Way-Stop-Smoking-Nonsmokers/dp/1402718616/ref=pd_bbs_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1198004160&sr=8-1) up. The guy is a genius, and has a higher success rate than any other method of quitting ever.

[Winslow]

Hmmm.....we seem to be cornering the market on pissy and bitchy today, aren't we.

I'm pretty sure your ex-wife and her attorneys have that market cornered.

We're amateurs next to them

[Justin D.]

I'll sell my shares at half face value.

Psh, you'd have to. I doubt they could get much more than that.







See, that's how we do that.

[Dreadstar]

Why, Justin, you're a playa!

[Ray R.]

I'm pretty sure your ex-wife and her attorneys have that market cornered.

We're amateurs next to them

Nah. Whining about "The Mist" for five pages, with and without spoiler tags, has got to be considered border-line professional. At least from a geek perspective.

My bitch ex-wife and her handlers tend to gloss over the marginalia and stick to the big issues. The opposite is true here.

[howyadoin]

I think koop started it, but...

Kryptonite.

http://www.newsli.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/pot-leaf-big.jpgIt was kind of a group effort.

It's a wonder we didn't destroy the universe when we smoked it with a lighter that looked like the Ultimate Nullifier.

[Ray R.]

It was kind of a group effort.

It's a wonder we didn't destroy the universe when we smoked it with a lighter that looked like the Ultimate Nullifier.

Speaking of the koop man.....have you heard from him lately? I haven't talked to him in at least eight months now. Hope he's doing okay.

[howyadoin]

Speaking of the koop man.....have you heard from him lately? I haven't talked to him in at least eight months now. Hope he's doing okay.More than a year for me. Other than things I hear through the grapevine, I've got no idea what's goin' on with him.

[Winslow]

Nah. Whining about "The Mist" for five pages, with and without spoiler tags, has got to be considered border-line professional. At least from a geek perspective.

My bitch ex-wife and her handlers tend to gloss over the marginalia and stick to the big issues. The opposite is true here.

How do you know an airplane is full of Ritalians?




When the engines stop, the whining continues . .

ba dum dum

[Dreadstar]

Seriosuly, if you get a chance you should pick this book (http://www.amazon.com/Easy-Way-Stop-Smoking-Nonsmokers/dp/1402718616/ref=pd_bbs_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1198004160&sr=8-1) up. The guy is a genius, and has a higher success rate than any other method of quitting ever.

To be honest, the thing that's going to get me to "success" is going to be thoughts like "I have $60 bucks in my pocket that I wouldn't have."

[jessecuster3]

To be honest, the thing that's going to get me to "success" is going to be thoughts like "I have $60 bucks in my pocket that I wouldn't have."

He talks about that.

[howyadoin]

Not that I'd ever wanna be a cubicle jockey again, but if I had to...

http://www.wired.com/techbiz/it/multimedia/2007/12/gallery_cube_fixes?slide=5&slideView=5

[HomerJay]

Sorry to poke this with a stick, but....
I do not feel that THE MIST is anti-religious. It is anti-fanaticism.
A character (can't remember who...the biker maybe?) explicitly states to Mrs. Carmody, "Oh, I believe in God, I just don't think he's the bloodthirsty sonofabitch that you think he is."

[Matt Algren]

Not that I'd ever wanna be a cubicle jockey again, but if I had to...

http://www.wired.com/techbiz/it/multimedia/2007/12/gallery_cube_fixes?slide=5&slideView=5
I was just emailed that article. No way anybody'd let a cube dweller do even a tenth of that.

It's enough that I have a Dunder Mifflin calendar.

[Dr. Hfuhruhurr]

Sorry to poke this with a stick, but....
I do not feel that THE MIST is anti-religious. It is anti-fanaticism.
A character (can't remember who...the biker maybe?) explicitly states to Mrs. Carmody, "Oh, I believe in God, I just don't think he's the bloodthirsty sonofabitch that you think he is."

You're not allowed to participate until you admit you are wrong.

[howyadoin]

I was just emailed that article. No way anybody'd let a cube dweller do even a tenth of that.Yeah, they mention that on the final page of the article.

[jessecuster3]

Sorry to poke this with a stick, but....
I do not feel that THE MIST is anti-religious. It is anti-fanaticism.
A character (can't remember who...the biker maybe?) explicitly states to Mrs. Carmody, "Oh, I believe in God, I just don't think he's the bloodthirsty sonofabitch that you think he is."

Ok but you would accept anti-religious fanatacism, right?

[Kid Omega]

Speaking of the koop man.....have you heard from him lately? I haven't talked to him in at least eight months now. Hope he's doing okay.

I saw him just a few weeks ago. All is well. I sold him some overstock, and he hung out for a bit.

I keep in regular touch with him.