New X-Men #45 8-page preview(M.C. chapter 8)

[Joe Franklin]

http://www.marvel.com/news/comics.1949.X-Force_Strikes_Back_In_Messiah_CompleX_Chapter_

[XYagentguy]

Omg is that red-head Siryn??

[Faded]

MONETMONETMONET!!!!

And Darwin looks as cute as a button!

The art looks fun. :)

Thanks Joe!

[Faded]

Omg is that red-head Siryn??

YESYESYESSSSIIIRRR!!!

[caney]

Oh my, that group shot is HOT! Very interesting team combo.

[XYagentguy]

Oh my, that group shot is HOT! Very interesting team combo.
Yes it is! That Siryn is GORGEOUS!

[Faded]

Oh my, that group shot is HOT! Very interesting team combo.

I know! I hope Monet says stuff and does things. :)

[Brian M.]

Cyclops, Iceman...Angel in the group...love it. Bobby/Warren should get good screen time.

Least I know Angel ain't dying.

[caney]

I like every costume in that group image.

[Faded]

I like every costume in that group image.

Seriously. And they all almost-kinda match.

Even blonde (BOO!) Bobby has some nice (new?) duds on.

[RonnieThunderbolts]

Actually, it is an 8 panel preview, there isn't one full page shown.

[Joe Franklin]

Least I know Angel ain't dying.

Up to M.C. chapter 8 he isn't.;)

[Scipio72002]

Does that mean nigthcrawler dies???

[Joe Franklin]

Actually, it is an 8 panel preview, there isn't one full page shown.

:( :( :( :D

[claimtosubclaim]

That Sam is a fast healer. I'm hoping for some good Cannonball/Siryn and Iceman/Angel character beats.

Beast looks like he wants someone else to play doctor now, so he can go kill some Marauders. haha

[frog]

Oh dear. It looks like Beast had a real hell of a bad day in the infirmary.

At least Cannonball is back up.

[XYagentguy]

Those costume's are gorgeous. Did Ramos make some of them from scratch? Just gorgeous!!

[Pach!]

Cannonballz is back!

And Iceman has an awesome new uniform.

And Darwin, Monet, Siryn, etc. Yay!!!

[frog]

That Sam is a fast healer. I'm hoping for some good Cannonball/Siryn and Iceman/Angel character beats.

Beast looks like he wants someone else to play doctor now, so he can go kill some Marauders. haha

We almost posted the same thing at the same time!

[Joe Franklin]

Those costume's are gorgeous. Did Ramos make some of them from scratch? Just gorgeous!!

The only new costume I notice for the good guys is Ice Man's. The X-Factor costumes were designed by Ryan Sook for X-Factor #1.

[Toboe]

Monet! :D

Iceman got himself a new cool outfit!

Cannonballz is back to action!

Oh, and Darwin is there...

[Pach!]

Monet! :D

Iceman got himself a new cool outfit!

Cannonballz is back to action!

Oh, and Darwin is there...

Darwin cries at the lack of excitement :(

[caney]

Who do you think they're all looking at?

[WhitehotRoom]

So who died?????

Mercury, David and Beast definitely look like they just lost someone.

[frog]

Who do you think they're all looking at?

Cable?

And where are they? I suspect the mansion is pretty trashed by this point in time.

[Scipio72002]

I am wondering that too. I am thinking Hellion, not Angel obviously, and probably not Kurt

[Toboe]

Darwin cries at the lack of excitement :(

Even Ramos just kinda drew his face on the back. LOL Poor Darwin.

So who died?????

Mercury, David and Beast definitely look like they just lost someone.

That's what I thought when I saw it. I hope it's not Hellion... but I guess that would give X-23 the motivation to join X-Force.

Please, let it be Pixie.

[frog]

So who died?????

Mercury, David and Beast definitely look like they just lost someone.

You'd expect to see Elixir here. I wonder if he's just off panel or if something prevented him from making it to the infirmary to help?

[mr2core]

That friggin group shot is HAWT!

Looks like Deathstrike is kicking arse and taking names... in blood.

That scene with Beast looks sad, hopefully it's not what I think...:(

[Toboe]

You'd expect to see Elixir here. I wonder if he's just off panel or if something prevented him from making it to the infirmary to help?

Like a giant Sentinel hand?

[frog]

I love it when Marvel posts preview art like this. It's just enough to let imagination run wild!

[frog]

Like a giant Sentinel hand?

Quite possibly.

[skylight]

that panel with beast makes me nervous! i hope hellion doesn't die!!!!!!!

[rwsmith]

X-Force vs. Deathstrike and the Reavers = sheer genius! :D

[claimtosubclaim]

Even Ramos just kinda drew his face on the back. LOL Poor Darwin.



That's what I thought when I saw it. I hope it's not Hellion... but I guess that would give X-23 the motivation to join X-Force.

Please, let it be Pixie.

I would think that Rockslide and Dust would be there if Julian was dead. I sincerely hope it's not him, though he's not on any of the later covers w/ the New X-Men.

[Pach!]

It's awesome how Lady Deathstrike just slashes everybody. I expect another scene where she's in another pose like that and Spider-man is bleeding out.

[podmark]

Looks like David put to use his new medical skills, never really thougth of that...but I'm not convinced that's a death shot. Looks to me like <sigh of relief and collaspe> "we did it, he's ok" shot. And Surge looks more happy than devastated, like her mistake didn't turn out any worse than it already was.

Group shot is indeed awesome, Ramos always has some good ones in him. Interesting look for Iceman.

[CMBMOOL]

That's what I thought when I saw it. I hope it's not Hellion... but I guess that would give X-23 the motivation to join X-Force.




I sort of guess that from the time when Hellion got slash. :(

All together that preview shows me that Ramos need to be in the Marvel Adventures titles for a while. :D

[frog]

Looks like David put to use his new medical skills, never really thougth of that...but I'm not convinced that's a death shot. Looks to me like <sigh of relief and collaspe> "we did it, he's ok" shot. And Surge looks more happy than devastated, like her mistake didn't turn out any worse than it already was.


I don't know. Mercury is crying and Beast looks agonized and/or furious to me.

[Synch]

three black people on the x-men squad at the same time !?!? thats a first!! congrats marvel you come along way..

[XYagentguy]

Those snow scene's are hott! Deathstrike looks marvelous in that first panel with the chop sticks in her hair!

[Cayman]

The group shot looks pretty good.

Every other panel is poo. Ramos should stick to poster shots.

[Brian M.]

three black people on the x-men squad at the same time !?!? thats a first!! congrats marvel you come along way..

Why stop posting under sinjection?

[XYagentguy]

The group shot looks pretty good.

Every other panel is poo. Ramos should stick to poster shots.
I think everything looks pretty fantastic!!

[Synch]

and they are still in the mansion, i think just the upward levels of the mansion are destroyed.

[podmark]

I don't know. Mercury is crying and Beast looks agonized and/or furious to me.

It's hard to tell with Marvel's stupid low-res previews, but I'm not certain Mercury's crying or if that's her face lines that artists sometimes use. The way it's drawn I can really see it either way "we saved him" or "we lost him".

[Brian M.]

Lost him. He's gone.

[frog]

It's hard to tell with Marvel's stupid low-res previews, but I'm not certain Mercury's crying or if that's her face lines that artists sometimes use. The way it's drawn I can really see it either way "we saved him" or "we lost him".

You are right about the bad resolution, and of course Mercury has probably had enough reason to cry no matter what happened. However, I just can't see Beast collapsing onto the floor unless it was the worst outcome.

It's hard waiting to see!

[skylight]

I love Bobby's new costume

[Gaveedra 6]

Even when Guido's in the group shot, they make Colossus stand in the back. :P

Great art. I'm excited to see Darwin doing stuff.

[CaptainCanada]

The collapse could just be from exhaustion.

[Flameworthy]

Deathstrike needs to be taken out by Sunfire.:mad:

[MarvelGirlBoy]

If they kill Julian... does that mean that Blindfold was doing a death-list, instead of merely an injury-one? That doesn't make sense...

But that scene at the infirmary, and the one of Emma stalking away from Surge, says to me "repercussions of Surge's big mistake".

I'm a little surprised to see Colossus still standing after what was said happened to him in the last issue... But then, Cannonball's up, so I guess Sinister is boarding the failboat.

[Samuraixsithlord]

I don't understand how Hellion could die. Josh regrew Davids heart, he can take care of a few stab wounds.

Colossus bounced back pretty quickly, i quess emma or chuck fixed him up after the mind raping from Sinister.


Doesn't look good for Nightcrawler, i prefer that he dies over Hellion though

[Slyfer]

http://www.marvel.com/i/content/st/1949new_storyimage6277526_full.jpg

[Gaveedra 6]

I don't understand how Hellion could die. Josh regrew Davids heart, he can take care of a few stab wounds.

Colossus bounced back pretty quickly, i quess emma or chuck fixed him up after the mind raping from Sinister.


Doesn't look good for Nightcrawler, i prefer that he dies over Hellion though

Sadly Nightcrawler has turned into something of a zero in the X-books. I can't recall the last time he did something interesting. Kind of feels like how Colossus had sort of become unimportant before he "died". Northstar too. Kurt could use some re-invention, but I hope he doesn't have to die first.

Now that I think about it, he's one of the few X-Men who's never "died" or gone mysteriously MIA for a long stretch. Stay alive Kurt!

[Cayman]

Sadly Nightcrawler has turned into something of a zero in the X-books. I can't recall the last time he did something interesting. Kind of feels like how Colossus had sort of become unimportant before he "died". Northstar too. Kurt could use some re-invention, but I hope he doesn't have to die first.

Now that I think about it, he's one of the few X-Men who's never "died" or gone mysteriously MIA for a long stretch. Stay alive Kurt!

That's why he's a skrull.

[streator]

i wonder who all of the blood is from? julian?

it looks like emma is putting surge in a holding cell or something.

also, cannonball is awake? i thought carey mentioned he would not be a part of this crossover?

[skylight]

I don't understand how Hellion could die. Josh regrew Davids heart, he can take care of a few stab wounds.

My thought exactly.

[Slung]

Not a huge fan of the extreme stylized art of Ramos. But gosh it is why more kinetic and energetic than the art of Eaton or even the preview art of Crain.

I want to see Kyle/Yost write Monet. And I REALLY want to see Bachalo draw her (since he created her) in X-Men!

[Faded]

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/5923/heylookvl1.jpg

Okay, you cancel all the other books now.

This would seriously be the only book I'd have to buy if it were a choice. All its missing is Rogue, which would be like, their first mission.

Hey, look its Toboe in the background!

[Cayman]

Guido's a deal-breaker for me.

[claimtosubclaim]

i wonder who all of the blood is from? julian?

it looks like emma is putting surge in a holding cell or something.

also, cannonball is awake? i thought carey mentioned he would not be a part of this crossover?

Maybe Cannonball is there so that when they reach Cable, he trades sides and joins Nathan. :eek:

[Samuraixsithlord]

In the above pic who's that guy in the far right? i figure the green guy is Anole? is that Hellion?

[Faded]

In the above pic who's that guy in the far right? i figure the green guy is Anole? is that Hellion?

YEP, but he's only photoshopped in--he's not really in the page.

Now with Rouge!!!

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/6475/withrogueyi9.jpg

Guido's a deal-breaker for me.

Yeah, I tried editing him out but it took too long.

FOR CAY SINCE I'M SLEEP DEPRIVED.

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/2564/withoutguido2fu0.jpg

Unfortunately, Ramos hasn't drawn Sofia or Loa yet, though its not like that stopped with Risque.

EDIT: Ignore the menstruation pouring from Cyke's eyes; that was...a mistake.

[CmX]

In the above pic who's that guy in the far right? i figure the green guy is Anole? is that Hellion?

Yeah Hellion, Faded photo shopped the both of them in there.

[Samuraixsithlord]

Yeah Hellion, Faded photo shopped the both of them in there.

Damn, got my hopes up.

[HeckBoy]

I hope Julian's not dead and that Beast/David/Mercury are only exhausted after saving someone and not b/c they lost someone. From his heyday as leader of the Hellions Squad, Julian has really taken a back seat since being removed as team leader. It would be a shame to just kill him off now. Either way, I really hope Surge gets what's coming to her and gets removed from leadership (and hopefully kicked off the field team). She is simply too emotionally-charged to lead effectively. Better to have someone like David take the reins again, or one of the other former Squad leaders like Anole.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Darwin and Guido aside (keep in mind, they're hardly dealbreakers IMO), that team is HOT.

[ProfeZZor X]

To be honest, I'd be turned off if it had that many characters in one book. It would seem like no one would really get any good page time or development.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Obviously wouldn't read a book with that many regulars. But that kind of a wrecking crew for an event? Cool stuff.

[claimtosubclaim]

I hope Julian's not dead and that Beast/David/Mercury are only exhausted after saving someone and not b/c they lost someone. From his heyday as leader of the Hellions Squad, Julian has really taken a back seat since being removed as team leader. It would be a shame to just kill him off now. Either way, I really hope Surge gets what's coming to her and gets removed from leadership (and hopefully kicked off the field team). She is simply too emotionally-charged to lead effectively. Better to have someone like David take the reins again, or one of the other former Squad leaders like Anole.

Julian was arrogant from the start, but always determined to be a hero (even though a lot of fans thought he would become a villain). He had the love of an exotic goddess-type, the reigns of a golden team, and was Emma's prized student. He had all of this ripped away from him, he learned humility and humanity, and really grew into a hero.

And now that he's actually suited to lead the team, he just might die (due in part to Surge, who has basically become the old Hellion in attitude, ironically enough).

[Veronica_Sawyer]

Man that one panel with Mercury, David and Beast is getting me worried but im hoping for the best! Im also wondering where Elixir would be. Then again Nori doesnt look too torn up in that other planel that looked like Emma was scolding her. Anyways i just hope Julian's okay.

It also seems that Wolverine is joining the fight with Deathstrike, i hope Laura and Logan do a team up against her or something lol

Cant wait for the issue!

[Slung]

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/5923/heylookvl1.jpg

Okay, you cancel all the other books now.

This would seriously be the only book I'd have to buy if it were a choice. All its missing is Rogue, which would be like, their first mission.

Hey, look its Toboe in the background!

It just needs Jean. And then I'd love it!!!

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Well, there's a redhead on the team. And one could say she's half-insane, what with how she's dealing with Banshee's death.

Kinda sorta maybe the tiniest bit close?

[Samuraixsithlord]

I wonder why they haven't tried to contact New Excalibur or the New Warriors?

[claimtosubclaim]

I wonder why they haven't tried to contact New Excalibur or the New Warriors?

Because the New Warriors are busy with their anti-Initiative stuff, and Claremont's stuff is sectioned off from the rest of the X-Verse, although Juggernaut may be back in America after WWH. I'm wondering more why they haven't contacted Husk, as she's still an X-Man.

[worstblogever]

Because the New Warriors are busy with their anti-Initiative stuff, and Claremont's stuff is sectioned off from the rest of the X-Verse, although Juggernaut may be back in America after WWH. I'm wondering more why they haven't contacted Husk, as she's still an X-Man.

And Karma's (Not Karima. Karma, the Vietnamese lesbian) still supposed to be at the school working as a librarian and the French teacher, to boot. It just keeps getting forgotten about. Would this entire affair be a "all hands on deck" moment if there ever was one?

[chickrockguitar]

AW! :( Poor Laura! That had to hurt.

[worstblogever]

I've looked at the picture a bunch of times... maybe it's the rendering of Ramos' faces, but I can't tell if Beast, Cessily, and David are feeling despair in that one panel, or relief and exhaustion.

With Elixir in the mix, though, it's anyone's ballgame.

[steve2275]

Even when Guido's in the group shot, they make Colossus stand in the back. :P

Great art.
and why is scott almost as tall as guido
http://www.marvel.com/comics/onsale/lib/view2.htm?filename=/i/content/st/1949new_storyimage6277526_full.jpg

[worstblogever]

and why is scott almost as tall as guido
http://www.marvel.com/comics/onsale/lib/view2.htm?filename=/i/content/st/1949new_storyimage6277526_full.jpg

Either he's been eating Flintstone vitamins, or he's wearing Emma's heels.

[FroFroYo]

Either he's been eating Flintstone vitamins, or he's wearing Emma's heels.




Both very good possibilities...
xP

[creaky]

I've looked at the picture a bunch of times... maybe it's the rendering of Ramos' faces, but I can't tell if Beast, Cessily, and David are feeling despair in that one panel, or relief and exhaustion.

With Elixir in the mix, though, it's anyone's ballgame.

I read it as just exhaustion. Someone said Mercury was crying, but it might just as well be a "shine" effect on her metallic face.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Either he's been eating Flintstone vitamins, or he's wearing Emma's heels.

Heels don't match with the outfit. Scratch that scenario.

[Bahnz]

Well, it really does look like Hellion is for the chop. That hospital scene is clearly not showing three people who've just saved someone. Mercury is practically curled up in the fetal position (and I think that clearly is a tear, rather than her facelines, which were never drawn in #44 anyway), and David's posture is suggestive of having suffered a terrible defeat. If that scene does involve Hellion (which we can only assume it does at this point in time) it seems certain that he must have died.

Further, wasn't it said before the start of MC that Hellion would be important for the story? It's hard to see how he'll be important if he spends the entire arc recovering in the infirmary. However if he dies, that could have some VERY major repercussions for other members of the cast (X-23, Mercury and Surge in particular), as well as possibly influencing the senior X-Men's actions.

[Mitteloss]

I'm so happy to see Siryn, M, Strong Guy and Darwin join in. Can't wait to see them all team up.

[frog]

I've looked at the picture a bunch of times... maybe it's the rendering of Ramos' faces, but I can't tell if Beast, Cessily, and David are feeling despair in that one panel, or relief and exhaustion.

With Elixir in the mix, though, it's anyone's ballgame.

However, we don't see Elixir there. He could just be off panel, or he could have been knocked out by a Sentinel.

[skylight]

With what I've been reading here, i'm now starting to think that Julian will die. But I really really hope he doesn't because maybe they just want us to think he might die with those previews. Aaahhh I can't wait for this issue to come out!

[Swashbuckler]

I wonder why they haven't tried to contact New Excalibur or the New Warriors?

Well, the New Warriors aren't mutants anymore, so I doubt the X-Men would want them getting tangled up in te latest mutant affairs. Not only that, but no one knows who the New Warriors are (except Wolverine maybe) so the X-Men would have no clue that that are all connected to them.

I don't think anyone wants to bother with New Excalibur. Nocurne would just cry the whole time and probably have another stroke, Dazzler and Pete Wisdom would find some corner and randomly fornicate, Captain Britain would loose his powers in America (at least this time he would, the mythos are never kept clear and concise) and Sage would just be annoying and probably join the Maurders since she has no ability to maintain her own personality these days.

[Askani's Flame]

I wonder why they haven't tried to contact New Excalibur or the New Warriors?

Probably because both teams are bad news:

New Warriors because they are working outside the SHRA, and as Swashbuckler pointed out, have no mutants on their team.

New Excalibur because without Juggernaut, they are lame. Especially the femme-bot Sage.

[jarrod]

Sage vs. Malice could be an interesting concept actually (if *not* written by Claremont anyway). But really, Excalibur is out of 616 at the moment... they're less accessable now then the Starjammers even, it really does make sense why they're not involved (though seeing Scott, Ororo, Kurt or someone calling London might've been a nice nod... Gage handled it well I thought during WWH).

[Swashbuckler]

Agreed. Honestly, with so many x-characters out there we can't expect them all to appear. It would be too much. I will say that the ones who are supposed to be at the institute that aren't shown are somewhat unexcused though, but I think that's just Karma as Magma left with the 198. A lot of other characters can be easily explained. Husk could be looking after her newly mutated brother and pissed off at the X-Men, but who knows what's up with her. She possibly could be the other exception as to who thy should have called in. I can't think of any others really. It's not liek they have Domino on speed dial or anything i'm sure.

[rilokyle]

Looks hot as usual. I love love love Ramos's Layla- she is adorable. And that team pic of X-Factor is absolutely lovely.

[jarrod]

Yeah, the laundry squad (Karma, Husk, Northstar, Aurora, Pulse) is really the only sore thumb in terms of coverage imo. Too bad though, as I *really* happen to like all those characters. :/

[Swashbuckler]

Yeah, the laundry squad (Karma, Husk, Northstar, Aurora, Pulse) is really the only sore thumb in terms of coverage imo. Too bad though, as I *really* happen to like all those characters. :/

I don't think Pulse is at the mansion. I mean, he came with Mystique and she's switched sides and become a tad bit busy. He was hesitant to battle Apocalypse during his one arc that he battled in and I wouldn't be suprised he has just left the mansion without saying anything after that. I mean, Rogue didn't care much for him really, Mystique abandoned him, why would he stick around?

[Pro]

Karma, Husk, Northstar

They'd be great on a team together. Heck toss them into PAD's direction, he'd be great with them.

[Rubicant]

They'd be great on a team together. Heck toss them into PAD's direction, he'd be great with them.

Yay! Then Shan and Jean-Paul can exclude Paige from conversations by speaking in French.

[MarvelGirlBoy]

I forsee a new X-title:

Le X-Hommes!

M leads Northstar, Aurora, Karma, and a reformed Gambit on travels around rural France to track a scale-destroying new mutant cheese... "Roqueslide" in his newest body, with Husk annoying the locals by asking for directions (and the location of the nearest McDonalds) whilst talking loudly and flapping her hands madly.


http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/2564/withoutguido2fu0.jpg


I'd buy issue one!

EDIT: Ignore the menstruation pouring from Cyke's eyes; that was...a mistake.

LOLZ. Yeah, you ain't kiddin' - dating a string of hormonal telepaths takes its toll.

Being serious, I'm starting to get really annoyed at this idea of "streamlining" the X-titles. I was trying not to be reactionary about it, but if they are made so separate, it just means we lose out on so many more characters.

[Pro]

Being serious, I'm starting to get really annoyed at this idea of "streamlining" the X-titles. I was trying not to be reactionary about it, but if they are made so separate, it just means we lose out on so many more characters.

Joe Quesada hates mutants.

[We R. Venom]

Seriously. And they all almost-kinda match.

Even blonde (BOO!) Bobby has some nice (new?) duds on.

Yeah that is tight. It looks like some kind of new, old X-Factor suit with the large x going across.

[claimtosubclaim]

Yeah that is tight. It looks like some kind of new, old X-Factor suit with the large x going across.

How does Bobby have an infinite amount of different X-Uniforms? They all look cool, but it's like he pulls them out of thin air.

[Toboe]

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/2564/withoutguido2fu0.jpg

Okay, you cancel all the other books now.

This would seriously be the only book I'd have to buy if it were a choice. All its missing is Rogue, which would be like, their first mission.

Hey, look its Toboe in the background!

Unfortunately, Ramos hasn't drawn Sofia or Loa yet, though its not like that stopped with Risque.


LOL I am Hellion now? Excellent work there, Faded. I heart that team! Except I'd take Sofia instead of Siryn, and Darwin must disappear the way Guido did.

Loa and Elixir are probably making out in the Blackbird, anyway.

Julian was arrogant from the start, but always determined to be a hero (even though a lot of fans thought he would become a villain). He had the love of an exotic goddess-type, the reigns of a golden team, and was Emma's prized student. He had all of this ripped away from him, he learned humility and humanity, and really grew into a hero.

And now that he's actually suited to lead the team, he just might die (due in part to Surge, who has basically become the old Hellion in attitude, ironically enough).

Yeah, I guess his transformation into a more traditional hero made sense, but it didn't make him more interesting, at least to me. He lost his edge a while back and now he's just all like "don't kill that guy, Laura! You too, Surge! Pretty please?". I miss his old bad boy attitude... but don't let him die!

Yeah, the laundry squad (Karma, Husk, Northstar, Aurora, Pulse) is really the only sore thumb in terms of coverage imo. Too bad though, as I *really* happen to like all those characters. :/

The laundry squad really needs some lovin' soon!

How does Bobby have an infinite amount of different X-Uniforms? They all look cool, but it's like he pulls them out of thin air.

He has an extensive wardrobe stuffed with speedos and fabulous leather jackets.

[Karthak]

Joe Quesada hates mutants.

He's a Purifier! I heard him talk on the phone to Stryker a while ago.

[Slung]

Well, there's a redhead on the team. And one could say she's half-insane, what with how she's dealing with Banshee's death.

Kinda sorta maybe the tiniest bit close?

Yeah, no.

A team with Storm, Jean and Monet? HOT!

[Dagger]

Sage vs. Malice could be an interesting concept actually (if *not* written by Claremont anyway). But really, Excalibur is out of 616 at the moment... they're less accessable now then the Starjammers even, it really does make sense why they're not involved (though seeing Scott, Ororo, Kurt or someone calling London might've been a nice nod... Gage handled it well I thought during WWH).
I'd love to have Sage being pwned by Malice, if just to show how bad ass Karima really is.

[Kage Kisaragi]

I knew Surge wouldn't get her due. Oh well, still.. why the HELL is Storm dressed like that, put some pants on dummy you ain't 16, that don't look sexy.. That's not whats good in the hood. :p Okay everything but the good in the hood part was serious. :)

[Slung]

I knew Surge wouldn't get her due. Oh well, still.. why the HELL is Storm dressed like that, put some pants on dummy you ain't 16, that don't look sexy.. That's not whats good in the hood. :p Okay everything but the good in the hood part was serious. :)

She's younger than Emma, and look what SHE wears.

[Pach!]

She's younger than Emma, and look what SHE wears.
Pants? Storm's uniform is more revealing than Emma's.

[creaky]

Pants? Storm's uniform is mo revealing than Emma's.

I think Emma could be wearing coveralls and still be blasted for looking like a slut. While Storm could wander around naked without anyone calling her anything of the sort.

[Kage Kisaragi]

She's younger than Emma, and look what SHE wears.

Heheh true but we all know and understand that Emma is trash. :p

[DeniseXfrost]

I think Emma could be wearing coveralls and still be blasted for looking like a slut. While Storm could wander around naked without anyone calling her anything of the sort.
Word..... ;)

[Joe Franklin]

I think Emma could be wearing coveralls and still be blasted for looking like a slut. While Storm could wander around naked without anyone calling her anything of the sort.


Remember in the early Wein/Claremont/Cockrum Uncanny days when Storm would walk around the X-mansion naked? Nightcrawler would get embarressed by it, and Wolverine would just watch and smile while smoking a cigar.

[creaky]

Remember in the early Wein/Claremont/Cockrum Uncanny days when Storm would walk around the X-mansion naked? Nightcrawler would get embarressed by it, and Wolverine would just watch and smile while smoking a cigar.

I do indeed. *points to sig*

[Joe Franklin]

I do indeed. *points to sig*

Cool.:cool:

I never even noticed your cool sig until you referenced it.

[DeniseXfrost]

lmao me too.

[Slung]

Pants? Storm's uniform is more revealing than Emma's.

I was, of course, referencing the X-pasties and diaper.

Remember in the early Wein/Claremont/Cockrum Uncanny days when Storm would walk around the X-mansion naked? Nightcrawler would get embarressed by it, and Wolverine would just watch and smile while smoking a cigar.
The difference between Storm and Emma's outfits is that Emma is trying to use sex as a weapon, whereas Storm was cultural comfortable with nudity. Its the different outlook on their own sexuality and bodies that makes more or less tasteful I believe.

[creaky]

Cool.:cool:

I never even noticed your cool sig until you referenced it.

Can't take much credit for it, since it's just quoting my husband, but thank you.:)

The difference between Storm and Emma's outfits is that Emma is trying to use sex as a weapon,

She is? Against who? She was in Morrison's run, but these days, she's just walking around doing her job. She's not acting flirtatious or seductive in any way - more like the opposite, in fact.

[DeadXMan]

Can't take much credit for it, since it's just quoting my husband, but thank you.:)



She is? Against who? She was in Morrison's run, but these days, she's just walking around doing her job. She's not acting flirtatious or seductive in any way - more like the opposite, in fact.

in hot pants, go-go boots and a top that abuses double-sided tape

[creaky]

in hot pants, go-go boots and a top that abuses double-sided tape

She's not WEARING that anymore and hasn't for years. Morrison's run is OVER.

[Kage Kisaragi]

She is? Against who? She was in Morrison's run, but these days, she's just walking around doing her job. She's not acting flirtatious or seductive in any way - more like the opposite, in fact.

After 3 decades your suppose to be pretty much in the swing of what your true character is, I think for a telepath its suppose to be even sooner. lol! She might not be hitting on Wolverine, but a tramp is still a tramp. I mean how do you think she got with Scott?

[DeadXMan]

yes how dose a blone get a guy who into red heads?

by being a tramp.

and Jean only pushed Scott into hooking up with Emma in order to save the universe
(and Logan)

[Kage Kisaragi]

yes how dose a blone get a guy who into red heads?

by being a tramp.

and Jean only pushed Scott into hooking up with Emma in order to save the universe
(and Logan)

You say Tomato I say Tomatoe, you say Potato, I say Potatoe! :p

[jarrod]

The laundry squad really needs some lovin' soon!
They need their own book! Throw in Skids, agent of SHIELD, and I'm so there! :D


I'd love to have Sage being pwned by Malice, if just to show how bad ass Karima really is.
Well, that's the only eventual outcome I could realistically see, but it'd be a interesting fight to watch considering they're working somewhat similar concepts for opposite ends of the spectrum (Sage being an evolutionary/organic move towards computer like data crunching and parallel processing, while Karima's a baseline with technology artificailly grafted to her system).

Really, I'm a bit surprised Karima hasn't been pwning all the X-Men yet though. She should be spanking mutie ass left and right...


She is? Against who? She was in Morrison's run, but these days, she's just walking around doing her job. She's not acting flirtatious or seductive in any way - more like the opposite, in fact.
I dunno, there was hot and heavy sexual subtext in the way she dominated Alex during Milligan's run. Then when Storm joined in, it morphed into hottest X-3-way yet (with Alex being the bottom). :D

[murs47]

After reading X-Men #205, It could be Nightcrawler that dies and not Hellion in the infirmary scene with Beast, Mercury and Prodigy. Kurt not being in the group shot can somewhat support that theory as well.

Oh yeah, I'm new here. Hey everybody!

[rwsmith]

Welcome. As for the preview, seeing the new X-Force squad throw down with the Reavers and Deathstrike is going to be awesome! I'm actually more excited about seeing X-23 and Yuriko throw down than I am to see Wolverine fight her yet again. Should be great.

Still can't wait to figure out what Cable's angle is in all of this. He seems like a guy with his own agenda and I can't wait to find out what it is.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

After 3 decades your suppose to be pretty much in the swing of what your true character is, I think for a telepath its suppose to be even sooner. lol! She might not be hitting on Wolverine, but a tramp is still a tramp. I mean how do you think she got with Scott?

So what would that make Jean following said logic?

Being with someone and never quite letting go of the other. Insults come to mind.

And just for the record, I'm not saying Emma was right in going after a married man for the sake of a meaningless affair at that point.

[RickyD410]

I'm really worried for Hellion. That panel with Beast, Prodigy, and Mercury does NOT look like a good one. I could see it going either way.

Either way, Surge screwed up. Bigtime. I think the panel with Emma walking away from her is Emma taking away her position as team leader. Which is why its so hard to read Surge's facial expression. She could be relieved but hurt, or happy but worried about Julian. Or maybe Ramos just sucks.

That team shot is awesome though. I just dont like Darwin, but everyone else is awesome! I cant wait to see what that team does! I'm really glad Guido, Siryn and Monet are being used. I thought they were forgotten!

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

I'm really worried for Hellion. That panel with Beast, Prodigy, and Mercury does NOT look like a good one. I could see it going either way.

Either way, Surge screwed up. Bigtime. I think the panel with Emma walking away from her is Emma taking away her position as team leader. Which is why its so hard to read Surge's facial expression. She could be relieved but hurt, or happy but worried about Julian. Or maybe Ramos just sucks.

And we have a winna, ladies and gents. :D

[jarrod]

Yeah, I'm starting to think Julian won't make it... Kurt seems in the clear, which leaves him and Megan on Blindfold's scary premonition list. Plus it's the perfect motivation for pushing X-23 into X-Force. :(

And whoever suggested the results of this f-up leads to a formal disbanding of the "New X-Men" back into just students might be on to something too imo...

[Brian M.]

Emma sucks

[Pro]

Emma sucks

Only if Scott begs for it.

[jarrod]

More like Emma straps, then makes Scott suck. ;)

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Emma sucks

Said comment was made for a specific reason/scene or just the usual daily Emma hate-on...?

[frog]

Okay, for a while we had an actual discussion going here. Can we go back to it, please?

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Well, Emma's gonna give Nori a speech, right? And Cyke'll be all for it.

Kinda in topic. Well, sort of.

[Deus ex Chris]

More like Emma straps, then makes Scott suck. ;)
Only after she pulls out.

[Kage Kisaragi]

Well, Emma's gonna give Nori a speech, right? And Cyke'll be all for it.

Kinda in topic. Well, sort of.

is kind of what i predicted, however my theory was that Cyke cowboy's up and does the preaching himself, and not sending his girlfriend to do it. Way to lose points Scott! wait, then again Scott and Wolverine and most of the senior X-Men are fighting Sinister right now, so I guess he couldn't. Still, yeah is Julian dies or is critically injured and I think its more like critically injured than dead, I can't believe Mercury wouldn't be crying if Julian had actually died considering there like brother and sister relationship wise.

Still, Surge gonna take a soul journey and come back all Scott Summers like.

[Tobias Drake]

Dare my eyes decieve me, or is that actually X-23 throwing down with Lady Deathstrike?! I've been wanting to see this since the cliffhanger of the last issue; kinda felt gypped with chapter 5's escape.

[frog]

is kind of what i predicted, however my theory was that Cyke cowboy's up and does the preaching himself, and not sending his girlfriend to do it. Way to lose points Scott! wait, then again Scott and Wolverine and most of the senior X-Men are fighting Sinister right now, so I guess he couldn't. Still, yeah is Julian dies or is critically injured and I think its more like critically injured than dead, I can't believe Mercury wouldn't be crying if Julian had actually died considering there like brother and sister relationship wise.

Still, Surge gonna take a soul journey and come back all Scott Summers like.

I think Mercury is crying. It could just be a facial line, but it looks like a tear track to me.

[Harlock]

Ramos' art is incredible.

[worstblogever]

I think Mercury is crying. It could just be a facial line, but it looks like a tear track to me.

If only she could be like Roma, and cry tears big enough that you can spot them from orbit.

[frog]

If only she could be like Roma, and cry tears big enough that you can spot them from orbit.

:eek: Hank and David are having a bad enough day without being in danger of drowning!

[Omega Alpha]

Ramos' art is incredible.

Oh, yeah. It's incredible bad.

[Accroître]

Cyclops, Iceman...Angel in the group...love it. Bobby/Warren should get good screen time.

Least I know Angel ain't dying.

I totally AGREE! Now if Jean showed up along with the other 4 originals...that would kick!~

[Affinity]

IS IT REALLY SPELLED "Julien Keller" ?!!?!??

[Harlock]

Oh, yeah. It's incredible bad.

And jhere jcomes jthe jsubjectivity. I find it it awesome. You can hate, but at least he has a distinctive style. Bagley was shit at first too, but he became the standard for Spidey after 12 and for 2 - 12 years.

Yeah, That was TWELVE friggin' years. Eric Larsen could've done the same thing but he went and made his -own- comic. Puss puss. Bitch bitch. No not all times are relative. Nor is the ingenuity. Still, Bagley purloined his version as original and made out with it.

The fact is you can hate, you can bitch, you can disregard. Bagley (as much as I hate Ultimate) influenced ASM more than did the shitty writers of this past decade. Yeah, I said it. And frankly, after OMD, can anyone dispute the writers were less than than lazy turds?

[Pro]

You can hate, but at least he has a distinctive style.

So does Rob Liefeld. Neither of the two seem to have a good grasp on anatomy though. Call me old fashioned but i want an artist to know his anatomy before he starts developing a unique style. I hated that fact on the art academy as well, mind you.
First learn to draw, then develop your own unique style. Picasso is mostly known for his abstract work but he was very good at drawing anatomically correct figures before he started abstracting his artstyle.
When style is used to cover up flaws in basic drawings it annoys me.

[Omega Alpha]

And jhere jcomes jthe jsubjectivity. I find it it awesome. You can hate, but at least he has a distinctive style. Bagley was shit at first too, but he became the standard for Spidey after 12 and for 2 - 12 years.

Yeah, That was TWELVE friggin' years. Eric Larsen could've done the same thing but he went and made his -own- comic. Puss puss. Bitch bitch. No not all times are relative. Nor is the ingenuity. Still, Bagley purloined his version as original and made out with it.

The fact is you can hate, you can bitch, you can disregard. Bagley (as much as I hate Ultimate) influenced ASM more than did the shitty writers of this past decade. Yeah, I said it. And frankly, after OMD, can anyone dispute the writers were less than than lazy turds?

So, do you think Ramos is good because Bagley is awesome?

[Pach!]

So, do you think Ramos is good because Bagley is awesome?

I think Ramos is good because he is.

[steve2275]

I think Ramos is good because he is.

it is :cool:

[Deus ex Chris]

I think Ramos is good because he is.
Is he? I hadn't noticed.

[Pach!]

Is he? I hadn't noticed.

He is. tenten

[DeniseXfrost]

I have a very big issue with the way Ramos draw everyone's huge huge mouth.

[frog]

There is absolutely no point of trying convince someone that they should or shouldn't like someone's art. It truly is in the eye of the beholder. You just can't make somebody not like what they like or vice versa.

[Omega Alpha]

You just can't make somebody not like what they like or vice versa.

Yes, you can, if you are this guy:

http://www.artistdirect.com/Images/artd/amg/music/bio/3541200_cn_200x200.jpg

[frog]

Yes, you can, if you are this guy:

http://www.artistdirect.com/Images/artd/amg/music/bio/3541200_cn_200x200.jpg

Deus ex machina! :D

[Kage Kisaragi]

Yes, you can, if you are this guy:

http://www.artistdirect.com/Images/artd/amg/music/bio/3541200_cn_200x200.jpg

I'll sleep with one eye open tonight but that picture looks kind of queer. XD

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

I'll sleep with one eye open tonight but that picture looks kind of queer. XD

Major kinda.

Chuckie still is a badass, but, yikes.

[EmmaFrost]

This isn't an eight page preview! More like an 8 panel preview. ...Not trying to be picky...it's just that I thought I was going to see something I hadn't already seen before.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

We've already covered the panels Vs pages thingy, actually. :wow:

Same thing happened with that latest X-Factor "First Look".

Nomenclature confusion and all.

[EmmaFrost]

Binomial nomenclature!

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Binomial nomenclature!

Great. Grammar police. :p

But seriously, is the 'binomial' really necessary for a set of words referring to a single notion?

[EmmaFrost]

Great. Grammar police. :p

But seriously, is the 'binomial' really necessary for a set of words referring to a single notion?

Yes! Because the Latin name of the species is two words.

<i>Homo erectus</i>

Why, oh why, does that species always pop into my head anytime I think of the word species...I swear it's because it has the word "erect" which makes it the easiest to remember. :rolleyes:

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Wait, hold on. Isn't binomial *only* about species?

Cause I wasn't actually referring to one.

Bah, whatever. Point is, "preview" was the wrong word.

[Brett P]

Deary me, things deifnately seem to be picking up pace. It's a shame they've colored Monet even lighter than ever and given Bobbster blond hair again but everything else looks pretty good. Oh, except Layla. The only way Ramos can make us see his characters are kids is by giving them saucer-eyes?! Like his Molly in the Runaways pic he did. Layla is a teen like the New X-Men anyway so...boo!

I'm scared for Hellion. Kurts on the Uncanny cover post Messiah so...yeah.

[xmanson]

Having people with healing factor really allow the writers to get Deathstrike to do lots of damage. The panel where she's hitting X-23 is just brutal. Good times.