X-Men & Gays Sittin' in a Tree

[XYagentguy]

Hi all! This thread is for all the many, many, gay fans that X-Men comics have! Use it to talk about your favorite X-Men, gay themes in the X-Books, gay comic characters, or whatever gay + x-men stuff you want!

It's also so we can all put some faces and facts to the folks behind the writing! Please feel free to post your myspace, facebook, blog site, or any other means of sharing pictures and stories.

Nothing distasteful, please.

PS. I'm not going first, I'm too shy. :o

(heterosexuals welcome)

[XYagentguy]

I will mention one thing. I think gay people love X-Men so much due to the nature of the X-comics themselves. What I mean by that, is that the X-Men are not some cheered-on super hero group. They are not called upon by mankind or even considered the "good guys." They are outcasts, socially unaccepted, trying to find their place in the world. They are feared and hated, yet they only want what everybody else wants, the three A's.

Approval
Acceptance
Appreciation

They fight the good fight despite being resented and completely unappreciated. They are misunderstood and struggle through life very much with their own kind.

Many people can relate to the X-Men on a more profound level, but I think particularly gay people. There are many astounding parallels, don't you think? I am beyond this age, but I think it gives many gay youths hope and aspirations. I know that sounds silly, but I really do. It gives them a sense of adventure and dedication. They are all their own mini-super hero! WOAH corny - loves it!

[Sentinel K]

Edit: Nevermind.

[The Lucky One]

Every thread on this board is for gay X-Men fans.

-D

[sinjection]

I am a heterosexual black male.

I have noticed a trend. There seems to be an inverse relationship between mutants of so-called sexual minorities and black male mutants.

The number of mutant gays and "other" seem to increase while the number of black male mutants have decreased from what few there were in the first place.

At times I suspect this reflects what is a clear hostility of some homosexuals against the black community - specifically the heterosexual black male - for their refusal to accept the homosexual community as a minority community with a legitimate claim to the legacy of the Civil Rights Struggle.

And now, the X-Men, a concept based upon the dynamics of the relationship between two of the greatest black male leaders of the Civil Rights Struggle - Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr and Malcolm X - and on the struggle of the black minority in this racist nation to be appreciated for their patriotism even during times when we were still enslaved and accepted as full citizens and not as second class citizens - this reality upon which the concept of the X-Men is based in part, has been co-opted by the sexual minorities.

I say to the writers of the x-franchise characters, do try not to kill off anymore black male characters, won't you?

____sinjection, a.k.a. Synch X

[Nyssane]

LOLOLOLOL whuhhh?

[Sentinel K]

I am a heterosexual black male.

I have noticed a trend. There seems to be an inverse relationship between mutants of so-called sexual minorities and black male mutants.

The number of mutant gays and "other" seem to increase while the number of black male mutants have decreased from what few there were in the first place.

At times I suspect this reflects what is a clear hostility of some homosexuals against the black community - specifically the heterosexual black male - for their refusal to accept the homosexual community as a minority community with a legitimate claim to the legacy of the Civil Rights Struggle.

And now, the X-Men, a concept based upon the dynamics of the relationship between two of the greatest black male leaders of the Civil Rights Struggle - Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr and Malcolm X - and on the struggle of the black minority in this racist nation to be appreciated for their patriotism even during times when we were still enslaved and accepted as full citizens and not as second class citizens - this reality upon which the concept of the X-Men is based in part, has been co-opted by the sexual minorities.

I say to the writers of the x-franchise characters, do try not to kill off anymore black male characters, won't you?

____sinjection, a.k.a. Synch X

Why are you also known as Synch X and why should we care?

[Askani's Flame]

I was wondering how it would take for sinjection to arrive.

[Nyssane]

I'm glad he finally came out of the closet.

[Pro]

At times I suspect this reflects what is a clear hostility of some homosexuals against the black community

Oh for fuck sakes ..

[XYagentguy]

At times I suspect this reflects what is a clear hostility of some homosexuals against the black community - specifically the heterosexual black male - for their refusal to accept the homosexual community as a minority community with a legitimate claim to the legacy of the Civil Rights Struggle.
sinjection, I'm not sure how the gay community has influence on Mighty Marvel on whom they chose or do not chose to add or take away from their books. I'm not sure how we could be blamed for them adding more gay characters while slowing down on adding black characters (if, that is, true in the first place).

That being said, you are right about one thing, there is a lot of animosity between the gay community and the black community. A lot. It stems from several reasons. One is no doubt the result of what you said, on a national level, black Americans are one of the most vocal and anti-gay rights people in the country, meanwhile, gays think they of all people should be more sympathetic and supportive.

Of course, gay people also find a great sense of hypocrisy within the African American community due to their refences to the "DL" or "down-low," coined and practiced by African American men in alarming numbers.

They have sex with other men but aren't homosexual and are actually quite homophobic?

Like... HUH???

Anyway, I think whether or not gays can lay claim to another Civil Rights movement is up for debate. However, the two minorities have seen many parallels - that is undeniable.

[Swashbuckler]

Just ignore sinjection.

I will go find a picture to post, if i can figure out how to do it.

[XYagentguy]

Just ignore sinjection.
I had planned on it after that one post. :)

Anyyyyyyway, I wanna hear some favorite x-men stories and see some pictures!! Lay 'em on me!!

[Speed]

Northstar is the only gay X-Man.
There have been hints to other members having bisexual tendencies but these have never been confirmed.
The number of mutant gays and "other" seem to increase while the number of black male mutants have decreased from what few there were in the first place. Incorrect.
There are less gay x-Men then there are black X-Men.

[escapegoat]

I think gays began to love the X-Men after viewing the sexy leather costumes that they wore in the movie....am I wrong? :p

C'mon... admit it! :D

Though out of curiousity, how many gay fans were first exposed to the X-Men because of the movies?

[escapegoat]

Northstar is the only gay X-Man.

Uh-oh...someone's about to get corrected...

[Novaya Havoc]

I thought the Dazzler thread was the Gay X-Men Fan thread!

In other news:
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[XYagentguy]

Though out of curiousity, how many gay fans were first exposed to the X-Men because of the movies?
Probably a lot!
I think gays began to love the X-Men after viewing the sexy leather costumes that they wore in the movie....am I wrong?
In my case, that only reinforced my love!!!
Northstar is the only gay X-Man.
That's not entirely true. Anole is gay if you consider him an x-man or an x-pup. Ultimate Colossus is also gay. I think there are a couple others that are more than hints. There has been an increase in Marvel gay characters in recent times. For example, Wiccan and Hulkling, the two young avenger lovers.

[Swashbuckler]

Here is a picture of me in my halloween costume,

http://xaa.xanga.com/a50d2041d0230111672621/m79565194.jpg

[Nyssane]

OMG LUIGI? That's so hawtt.

[Speed]

That's not entirely true. Anole is gay if you consider him an x-man or an x-pup. Ultimate Colossus is also gay. I think there are a couple others that are more than hints. There has been an increase in Marvel gay characters in recent times. For example, Wiccan and Hulkling, the two young avenger lovers. Anole is true.
Thats 2.
Colossus is not gay in 616 and we are not discussing the Avengers.
So 2 gay X-Men.

[protogarrett]

I am going to have to second the "Oh for fuck's sake..." comment earlier.

Black X-Men: Storm, Bishop, Darwin (half black-half Puerto Rican I think?), Maggot

Gay X-Men: Northstar, Mystique (bi), and Karma was never an x-man so she doesn't count.

Yeeeah... And if you count the New X-Men, then you get Anole and Prodigy. So the line is still drawn the same.

And, yes, mainly I just think they're hot. So yah.

[sinjection]

That being said, you are right about one thing, there is a lot of animosity between the gay community and the black community. A lot. It stems from several reasons. One is no doubt the result of what you said, on a national level, black Americans are one of the most vocal and anti-gay rights people in the country, meanwhile, gays think they of all people should be more sympathetic and supportive.

In my opinion, and not presuming to speak for all black Americans, how the white homosexual feels about the black American community is the problem of the white homosexual community, not that of the black American community. Many of those white homosexual males evoking the name of Rosa Parks are as racist as the white cops who arrested Rosa for refusing to give up her seat on that bus. If white homosexuals believe that the black American community should be sympathetic and supportive of them when most in the black American community see that lifestyle as sinful, then again, whose fault is that?

Of course, gay people also find a great sense of hypocrisy within the African American community due to their refences to the "DL" or "down-low," coined and practiced by African American men in alarming numbers.

The Down Low Brotha is a very real and dangerous problem in the black community. Those men are extremely troubled. They refuse to believe themselves to be either homosexual or bisexual. Yet, they continue to have sexual rendevous with bi-sexual or homosexual males. Too often those males are infected with HIV which they then take home to their wives or female significant other. There is no hypocrisy at all. The black American community does not reject the homosexual brother and sister, but the lifestyle itself is rejected by the majority of the community. Whether or not you think that is inconsistent is immaterial to me.

The black American community owes a great deal to its homosexual members. I won't go into it here on this thread. When a white homosexual claims that he and the gay community is "like the blacks", what they are in fact doing is usurping the place of the black homosexual. If white homosexuals are "like the blacks", then who are black homosexuals like?

I won't belabor the issue and this will be my final post to this thread. I simply wanted to make known my observation that while so many mutants seem to be "coming out of the closet" or "being outed" these days, there are more and more black male mutants depowered, dead or dying. This in a comicbook which to a large degree, was inspired by the Civil Rights Movement of Black Americans.

I'm very happy David Alleyne beat the shiznit out of julian keller and I believe he should do so at least 10 more times. I should like very much to see Nezhno cured of what ails him. I would like him to fully actualize his power potential and then of course, leave the x-men and take his talents where they can be of best use. Wakanda :D

____sinjection, a.k.a. Synch X

They have sex with other men but aren't homosexual and are actually quite homophobic?

Like... HUH???

Anyway, I think whether or not gays can lay claim to another Civil Rights movement is up for debate. However, the two minorities have seen many parallels - that is undeniable.[/QUOTE]

[XYagentguy]

OMG LUIGI? That's so hawtt.
OMG LOVE IT!!

PS. I'm not reading what you write sinjection, I didn't make this thread for blacks and gays to bicker.

[Speed]

Being a homosexual has nothing to do with being black or white.
Neither David Alleyne or Julian Keller are gay.

[Pro]

Can We Not Make This Another Race Thread?

Please?

Please?

Please?

Cronin?

Please?

[Pro]

I'm very happy David Alleyne beat the shiznit out of julian keller and I believe he should do so at least 10 more times. I should like very much to see Nezhno cured of what ails him. I would like him to fully actualize his power potential and then of course, leave the x-men and take his talents where they can be of best use. Wakanda

We heard you the first dozen times for christ sakes.

[XYagentguy]

Can We Not Make This Another Race Thread?

Please?

Please?

Please?

Cronin?

Please?
I created this thread and I respectfully ask people to post what I clearly stated in the opening. If blacks want to argue with gays, create another thread.

Please.

[Speed]

I am neither a black or a gay.

[DaeJi]

The X-Men have to be one of the most gay friendly comic teams in existence despite having only like 3 or 4 confirmed gay characters. And Storm. Maybe it's all the "subtle" innuendo or the many, many, many nekkie shots of the all the characters. And Storm.

[XYagentguy]

Okay okay, I'll be daring.

Here is my myspace page.

www.myspace.com/DUgavz

[Brian M.]

Edit: Nevermind.

I'd a killed to have read what you really wrote.

Every thread on this board is for gay X-Men fans.

-D

We're just straight guests in the gay man's home.

Oh for fuck sakes ..

Amazing really...it really is amazing...going out of your way to start shit.

[Swashbuckler]

I started collecting x-men comics when I was 14. The main reason I got into them was because of the X-Men Animated series which I enjoyed highly. I was also a huge collector of the toyline and the video games. I played the 90's capcom game for hours in the arcade.

I didn't come out until I was 17, and when I did it was easy for me to find similarities to the mutant plea and to my situation. I've always felt at home with the X-Men titles because of there odd ball status. Even as a gay guy, I don't have many gay friends, if any. I don't go to gay bars or to the areas of my city that are "gay friendly". It's not that I hate them, it's just that I don't feel like I bleong there either. I am gay, and I don't mind it, but I've never been overly excited to be. I don't think I need to let everyone I meet know, though I don't mind people knowing. I'm horrible at dating, and because I don't really get into the gay scene I rarely even meet other eligible guys.

I guess if I were an X-Men, I'd probably be a charater like Cecilia reyes who just didn't want to be a part of that world but accepted it and made the best of it.

[Nyssane]

I didn't come out until I was 17, and when I did it was easy for me to find similarities to the mutant plea and to my situation. I've always felt at home with the X-Men titles because of there odd ball status. Even as a gay guy, I don't have many gay friends, if any. I don't go to gay bars or to the areas of my city that are "gay friendly". It's not that I hate them, it's just that I don't feel like I bleong there either. I am gay, and I don't mind it, but I've never been overly excited to be. I don't think I need to let everyone I meet know, though I don't mind people knowing. I'm horrible at dating, and because I don't really get into the gay scene I rarely even meet other eligible guys.

OMG you + me = married in 2 years.

I feel the same way about everything... I try to go to gay clubs with a friend but I end up getting groped or something happens and I freak out and leave. HAW HAW. You need to move to Florida.

[Nyssane]

In my opinion, and not presuming to speak for all black Americans, how the white homosexual feels about the black American community is the problem of the white homosexual community, not that of the black American community. Many of those white homosexual males evoking the name of Rosa Parks are as racist as the white cops who arrested Rosa for refusing to give up her seat on that bus. If white homosexuals believe that the black American community should be sympathetic and supportive of them when most in the black American community see that lifestyle as sinful, then again, whose fault is that?

It's the blacks fault for hating homosexuals in the first place.

[Swashbuckler]

my blog is www.xanga.com/shetland_ponytastic (http://www.xanga.com/shetland_ponytastic)

It's more a journal I guess, but it has some songs I wrote on there, and basically me ranting about the weirdos in my life. Not to mention my hillarious attempts at dating and my pathetic attempts at falling in love with breeders. I just need a cuddle buddy really. I thought I had found one recently, then I foudn out he shaved his chest and it was over. We'd cuddle and I'd get teh crap scratched out of me.

[Faded]

It's the blacks fault for hating homosexuals in the first place.

That's very sinful.

If white homosexuals believe that the black American community should be sympathetic and supportive of them when most in the black American community see that lifestyle as sinful, then again, whose fault is that?

So is racism justified since the majority of people who discriminate against blacks see them as lesser human beings?

The fault of racism AND homophobia belongs to idiocy, plain and simple.

[XYagentguy]

Swashbuckler I only joined these forums a few weeks ago and when you would post you had that icon of you sticking your tongue out. I knew from that very second you were gay. I just knew. LOL. ;)

[Phil Hunn]

While most of my attention is focused on girlies, I won't object to a nice man-ass crossing my path from time to time.

Of course, with my love life being stillborn, that makes no difference to me whatsoever right now...

I think gays began to love the X-Men after viewing the sexy leather costumes that they wore in the movie....am I wrong? :p

Those costumes that they could hardly move in, you mean? Yeah, very seductive... if you're into somebody falling over whenever they try to walk briskly ;)

I thought the Dazzler thread was the Gay X-Men Fan thread!

In other news:
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... Sage? Since when were you gay?

Oh, right - Claremont Strong Female. It's practically de rigeur.

The X-Men have to be one of the most gay friendly comic teams in existence despite having only like 3 or 4 confirmed gay characters. And Storm. Maybe it's all the "subtle" innuendo or the many, many, many nekkie shots of the all the characters. And Storm.

Storm can't be gay! She hasn't ever shagged Yukio or spent ages pining over her or had fantasies about living with her or anything!

[Nyssane]

my blog is www.xanga.com/shetland_ponytastic (http://www.xanga.com/shetland_ponytastic)

It's more a journal I guess, but it has some songs I wrote on there, and basically me ranting about the weirdos in my life. Not to mention my hillarious attempts at dating and my pathetic attempts at falling in love with breeders. I just need a cuddle buddy really. I thought I had found one recently, then I foudn out he shaved his chest and it was over. We'd cuddle and I'd get teh crap scratched out of me.

Xanga's are SO 4 years ago! Loves it... but hairy chest? Eh, not a fan... I guess this means we were not meant to be. :(! DIVORCE.

While most of my attention is focused on girlies, I won't object to a nice man-ass crossing my path from time to time.

Of course, with my love life being stillborn, that makes no difference to me whatsoever right now...

Phil, that's hott. We could have gaybies and then talk about how awesome Frenzy is. That would be the perfect sex ever.

[XYagentguy]

but hairy chest? Eh, not a fan... I guess this means we were not meant to be. ! DIVORCE.
He could prefer smooth by nature.

[Nyssane]

He could prefer smooth by nature.

That's discrimination. People can't help if they were born with hair on their chests! But there's always nair.

[XYagentguy]

That's discrimination. People can't help if they were born with hair on their chests! But there's always nair.
Discrimination?? ROFL! Since when did sexual attraction turn into discrimination! You can't help what you find appealing! Many people find hair to be more than fine! I like a little hair, myself, in the right places!!

[Pro]

That's discrimination. People can't help if they were born with hair on their chests! But there's always nair.

Hairy chest .. *shivers*

[Brian M.]

I hate black hippies.

[Nyssane]

Hairy chest looks good on certain people. But in all honesty, none of that crap really bothers me. Hair is hair, I think it'd be incredibly lame to not date someone just because of something they can't control.

[Swashbuckler]

Xanga's are SO 4 years ago! Loves it... but hairy chest? Eh, not a fan... I guess this means we were not meant to be. :(! DIVORCE.



Phil, that's hott. We could have gaybies and then talk about how awesome Frenzy is. That would be the perfect sex ever.

Dumped for Phil? I am not necessarily a hairy chest fan, i'm just not a fan of prickley chested men. If you knwo your going to be sharing your bed please be prepared, or at least wear a t-shirt.

[Phil Hunn]

Phil, that's hott. We could have gaybies and then talk about how awesome Frenzy is. That would be the perfect sex ever.

Heh. I'd be up for that, as long as you didn't yell Frenzy's name while we were at it ;)

Discrimination?? ROFL! Since when did sexual attraction turn into discrimination! You can't help what you find appealing! Many people find hair to be more than fine! I like a little hair, myself, in the right places!!

My level of body hair is approaching Wolverine-esque levels in some places. Waxing it would cause me... considerable agony :eek:

[Dagger]

That's discrimination. People can't help if they were born with hair on their chests! But there's always nair.
That crap doesn't work! It just makes your chest smell a cucumber douche!

[XYagentguy]

Hairy chest looks good on certain people. But in all honesty, none of that crap really bothers me. Hair is hair, I think it'd be incredibly lame to not date someone just because of something they can't control.
I would tend to agree. I mean, if someone had a ton of back hair I would be grossed out. I wouldn't WANT to be, but I wouldn't be able to deal with it. Most other places, as long as I can get them to keep it trimmed and neat, I wouldn't be terribly bothered.

You're right, it looks very nice on certain people. Not me, though!!

I like hair on guy's legs and even a little fuzzy bum. I think that's cute. TMI?

[Dagger]

Hairy chest looks good on certain people. But in all honesty, none of that crap really bothers me. Hair is hair, I think it'd be incredibly lame to not date someone just because of something they can't control.
That's how I feel too! I've been growing attracted to guys who shave their heads lately. I just wanna lick it.

[Swashbuckler]

Yeah, it's not that I prefer hairy or non-hairy chested people. It's just that I don't like prickley chests directly against me.

[Faded]

That crap doesn't work! It just makes your chest smell a cucumber douche!

OMG. Nair smells disgusting.

Just braid your chest hair and call it a day.

[Nyssane]

Dumped for Phil? I am not necessarily a hairy chest fan, i'm just not a fan of prickley chested men. If you knwo your going to be sharing your bed please be prepared, or at least wear a t-shirt.

LAWL, okay we can date again. <3 I'm such a player.

I dunno, I just don't think regular guys look good shirtless, period. When I lived in the college dorms, my neighbors would always walk around shirtless and I wanted to barf every time. HAW HAW. Shirts are nice.

Heh. I'd be up for that, as long as you didn't yell Frenzy's name while we were at it ;)

We could listen to Be Prepared while we do it. hurhur.

It's odd because I always thought you were like such a Straightie McGrady. Do you consider yourself bisexual?

[XYagentguy]

That crap doesn't work! It just makes your chest smell a cucumber douche!
I am not totally smooth by nature. My chest hair is nothing to write home about, but I remove it with Veet. It keeps me extremely smooth and I use their scentless formula with aloe. Nair burned me once pretty bad, I will NEVER use it again.

I'm also lucky that I have extremely fine and soft hair, even if it starts growing back, it's not scratchy at all.

[Brian M.]

I hate gay hippies.

[Nyssane]

I would tend to agree. I mean, if someone had a ton of back hair I would be grossed out. I wouldn't WANT to be, but I wouldn't be able to deal with it. Most other places, as long as I can get them to keep it trimmed and neat, I wouldn't be terribly bothered.

You're right, it looks very nice on certain people. Not me, though!!

I like hair on guy's legs and even a little fuzzy bum. I think that's cute. TMI?

Back hair is a whole nother story... I'm not a fan. And I don't like chest hair on me, either, but I usually get too lazy to get rid of it.

[XYagentguy]

I hate black hippies.
I hate gay hippies.
That was hilarious, not gonna lie.

[Swashbuckler]

So yeah, bodyhair.

I can't find a good pciture to post. I'll have to scan one when i get home from work. What are your guys thoughts on faghags? and should Anole have one?

[Faded]

So yeah, bodyhair.

I can't find a good pciture to post. I'll have to scan one when i get home from work. What are your guys thoughts on faghags? and should Anole have one?

STFU LOA HATER.

[Nyssane]

I am not totally smooth by nature. My chest hair is nothing to write home about, but I remove it with Veet. It keeps me extremely smooth and I use their scentless formula with aloe. Nair burned me once pretty bad, I will NEVER use it again.

I'm also lucky that I have extremely fine and soft hair, even if it starts growing back, it's not scratchy at all.

OMGAW tell me more about this VEET. I used nair for a while but yeah, the smell is rank.

[Novaya Havoc]

Dazzler is the ultimate gay icon.

[XYagentguy]

What are your guys thoughts on faghags? and should Anole have one?
Ahh the faghag. Fruit roll-ups! Fairy Princesses! Many names!

It depends on your definition of faghag. There are girls who just relate to gay men. They love them. They are like their girlfriends without all the girl (which makes them bad, LOL). They create bonds that I think are the strongest on earth. I think that is more than fine and lovely. I have a few!

Then there are faghags who fall in love with their gay man. They are EXTREMELY possessive and thwart other females and even males!! They become obsessive and disturbing. I don't like those kinds and I think that's a damaging relationship.

[Fatguy]

I've been told I would make an excellent bear because I'm really tall, really big, and I have lotsa body hair. But its fine, reddish gold hair, which the gay guy in question who was hitting on me said was a turn on.

Whats this thread about?...

[Nyssane]

So yeah, bodyhair.

I can't find a good pciture to post. I'll have to scan one when i get home from work. What are your guys thoughts on faghags? and should Anole have one?

My faghag is awesome. She's a huge video game freak so we get along gr-r-r-r-reat! I tried to get her into comics... I made her read the Great Lakes Avengers mini and some of Essential Dazzler, and she knows who all the characters are (I can't even remember how many times I told her about Anaconda), but she never gets into it that much. :( She adores Wolverine, though.

[Phil Hunn]

We could listen to Be Prepared while we do it. hurhur.

LOL. Sold! :)

It's odd because I always thought you were like such a Straightie McGrady. Do you consider yourself bisexual?

Yes. I remember thinking that when I was at high school, but since that environment was so homophobic (which because it was a private school was somewhat odd ;)), and spent quite a while trying to suppress it.

I'm more comfortable with it now, though. Even if I still have rather a lot of issues about allowing people that far into my personal space... :(

[Swashbuckler]

STFU LOA HATER.

I so apologized for that ages ago. I don't hate Loa. I don't know anything about her that's important, except she mad eout with Elixir. Should Loa and Anole be best friends?

[Swashbuckler]

I've been told I would make an excellent bear because I'm really tall, really big, and I have lotsa body hair. But its fine, reddish gold hair, which the gay guy in question who was hitting on me said was a turn on.

Whats this thread about?...

It's about you being the Yogi to my Boo Boo

[FroFroYo]

I so apologized for that ages ago. I don't hate Loa. I don't know anything about her that's important, except she mad eout with Elixir. Should Loa and Anole be best friends?



NOT ACCEPTED!
>O

And they are best friends.

LOA LOVE LIVES!

[XYagentguy]

OMGAW tell me more about this VEET. I used nair for a while but yeah, the smell is rank.
Veet is very similar to Nair in some regards. You can find them in the same aisle!
Here is the website.

http://www.veet.com/

Here is the one I use specifically.
http://www.veet.us/products_creams.shtml
Half way down the page there is VEET® Sensitive Formula Hair Removal Lotion. It still has a somewhat unpleasant odor, but I find it MUCH better and more effective than Nair. Once good shower and the smell is gone.

[Dagger]

STFU LOA HATER.
Loa and Pixie are totally Anole's faghags! We should come up with a new word for Faghag.

[Pro]

Back hair is a whole nother story... I'm not a fan.

Discrimination!

[Dagger]

I've been told I would make an excellent bear because I'm really tall, really big, and I have lotsa body hair. But its fine, reddish gold hair, which the gay guy in question who was hitting on me said was a turn on.

Whats this thread about?...
You posting pics of this, you big bear daddy:p

[Faded]

I so apologized for that ages ago. I don't hate Loa. I don't know anything about her that's important, except she mad eout with Elixir. Should Loa and Anole be best friends?

I was kidding. :o

Besides, you were drunk so I thought you might've forgotten. :O :O :O

NOT ACCEPTED!
>O

And they are best friends.

LOA LOVE LIVES!

PREACH FROFRO!!!

[XYagentguy]

Loa and Pixie are totally Anole's faghags! We should come up with a new word for Faghag.
There are! I mentioned them! Fairy Princess, Fruit Roll-Up, Fruit Fly, Homo Honey, Fruit Loop, Goldilocks, Flame Dame, and Fairy Godmother

[Swashbuckler]

I actually wrote a proposal for a book about FagHags. It's called "The Official FagHag Handbook" and it discusses rules to creating a good relationship for Fag and Hag. Rules like, not falling in love with each other, not getting jealous over past Hags, not feeling left out with the other dates people, and etc. etc. It's pretty funny. I finished chapters, it's about 160 pages now, but I never finished the book. i always get it out and think about it, but I just can't seem to get myself motivated

[Nyssane]

LOL I would read it.

[XYagentguy]

Before this thread is closed we need to incorporate our beloved X-Men! I think Iceman is gay.

Or I hope he is..

I guess there's a difference.

PS. Where are the pictures!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Faded]

There are! I mentioned them! Fairy Princess, Fruit Roll-Up, Fruit Fly, Homo Honey, Fruit Loop, Goldilocks, Flame Dame, and Fairy Godmother

Gaymates!

10101

[Dagger]

Gaymates!

10101
A few of my friends call each other moho's!

[XYagentguy]

Lets post the most homo-erotic x-related panels, ever. OMG, where would you even start????


;)

[Swashbuckler]

oh yeah....

I have always wanted to see an X-Man fall for another one and be totally shot down. It doesn't happen often it seems. I mean, the Northstar/Iceman story could have been better, but Northstar just got over it. I want Angst, tears, something like Craig and John Paul from Hollyoaks! Or even a straight coupling that has this issue. Like what if Nightcrawler totally fell in love with Hepzibah but she just wasn't interested. And Nightcrawler could be all stalkerish. Oh wait, that happened in Ultimate, lol.

[Fatguy]

You posting pics of this, you big bear daddy:p

lol I'm afraid I am without topless pics!

Just imagine David Beckham but taller, fatter, hairier, and a completely different face.

[Dagger]

lol I'm afraid I am without topless pics!

Just imagine David Beckham but taller, fatter, hairier, and a completely different face.
:eek: *multigasm's*

[XYagentguy]

I always thought Joe Mad! drew the sexiest X-guys.

Their hands were always slightly larger than they should be and beautiful.

His Gambit was gorgeous.

[Swashbuckler]

My favorite is probably Nightcrawler in his X-Treme X-men cameo. I love that picture of him. I'm also a big fan of Colossus pin-ups. non-xmen wise though, I love DC's new Power Boy

[XYagentguy]

My favorite is probably Nightcrawler in his X-Treme X-men cameo. I love that picture of him. I'm also a big fan of Colossus pin-ups. non-xmen wise though, I love DC's new Power Boy
Can you show that Nightcrawler pic and Power Boy?

[Phil Hunn]

My favorite is probably Nightcrawler in his X-Treme X-men cameo. I love that picture of him. I'm also a big fan of Colossus pin-ups. non-xmen wise though, I love DC's new Power Boy

Presumably his boobs aren't quite as big as Power Girl's chest, right? ;)

[XYagentguy]

OMG! Power Boy has a little circle cut-out on his chest that shows his chest hair. That is SO gay.

[Swashbuckler]

Can you show that Nightcrawler pic and Power Boy?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/9d/Power_Boy2.jpg/225px-Power_Boy2.jpg

Power Boy...I just think that costumes funny.

http://bamfcentral.com/gall82kms9/artists/ARTSL_001.jpg
and Nightcrawler....

[XYagentguy]

Power Boy...I just think that costumes funny.
That is the gayest costume and pose EVER.
and Nightcrawler....
Damn that's cool!! Did Sal draw that??

[Cayman]

I love Power Boy!

Damn you, Judd Winick!

[Gene M.]

Okay okay, I'll be daring.

Here is my myspace page.

www.myspace.com/DUgavz
We have gay people in Pittsburgh?

[Cayman]

We have gay people in Pittsburgh?

They call it Pittsburgh, but it's really Canada.

[XYagentguy]

We have gay people in Pittsburgh?
Pittsburgh has a very affluent gay population, where have you been? Lol.

[Gene M.]

They call it Pittsburgh, but it's really Canada.
Figures. Everybody wants to be Pittsburgh.

[Gene M.]

Pittsburgh has a very affluent gay population, where have you been? Lol.
Living about 3 hours north of the 'Burgh for the last 3 years!

[Swashbuckler]

We have gay people in Pittsburgh?

The show queer as folk was set in Pittsburgh. And I loved how Mikey on that show had a Comic Book Store. That would be my dream, to own a comic shop. And sell lots of X-Men comics of course.

[XYagentguy]

Living about 3 hours north of the 'Burgh for the last 3 years!
When is the last time you've been to Shadyside? Gay mecca!

[Fatguy]

We have gay people in Pittsburgh?

Duh, its Steel Country! They work hard, but they play harder!

[XYagentguy]

Duh, its Steel Country! They work hard, but they play harder!
You mean Steelers Nation. :P

[Cayman]

The show queer as folk was set in Pittsburgh.

And it was filmed in Toronto, thus my lame joke below.

[Gene M.]

When is the last time you've been to Shadyside? Gay mecca!
It's been a while. I was in Squirrel Hill the other day, though.

You mean Steelers Nation. :P
F--- yeah.

[Swashbuckler]

Why is it Dazzler is considered the gay icon? She has horribly fashion right now, and honestly, unless it's throwback tuesday at the bar and everyones dressing in vintage costumes I would never hang out with Dazzler or worship her pop music. I have always been impressed by the skates though.

The true gay diva would probably be someone much more modern like Boom Boom. That's just my opinion though

[XYagentguy]

It's been a while. I was in Squirrel Hill the other day, though.
Go to Ellsworth St in Shadyside. There are tons of gay people all the time!
And it was filmed in Toronto, thus my lame joke below.
Hall Sparks came to Liberty Ave at one of the gay bars during the season finale of the show. He came with his band and played music all night and then they showed the season finale on big screen TVs all over the bar, and then more music.

It was fun.

[XYagentguy]

The true gay diva would probably be someone much more modern like Boom Boom. That's just my opinion though
Where is Meltdown right now? Modern Meltdown is seeexy.

[Swashbuckler]

I mentioned Dazzler so Novaya's gonna go all super-nova i'd guess. and Hal Sparks = my dream lover. He is the cutest thing I have ever seen. Besides Ethan Embry.

Meltdwon is nowhere right now. I think people are conused as to if Nextwave is in continuity or not. I like her though and would enjoy seeing her used.

[XYagentguy]

and Hal Sparks = my dream lover. He is the cutest thing I have ever seen. Besides Ethan Embry.
He is so itty bitty!!!!

[rZi]

I wonder what X-characters are popular with the gay community? I mean like...you know how liza minelli is with some? Yes i just made a very poor sterotypical comment but i couldn't think of anyone else..

Ok top hunks i bet;

cyke
bobyice

girls;

blatantly dazler
polaris?

[XYagentguy]

I wonder what X-characters are popular with the gay community? I mean like...you know how liza minelli is with some? Yes i just made a very poor sterotypical comment but i couldn't think of anyone else..
Emma Frost without a doubt is one. I think most of the major x-ladies are gay icons. Mystique is another. Psylocke for sure.

I don't find Cyke attractive at all.

[Rubicant]

Why is it Dazzler is considered the gay icon? She has horribly fashion right now, and honestly, unless it's throwback tuesday at the bar and everyones dressing in vintage costumes I would never hang out with Dazzler or worship her pop music. I have always been impressed by the skates though.

The true gay diva would probably be someone much more modern like Boom Boom. That's just my opinion though

Hell, Morrison's Emma was more of a gay icon than Dazzler. She walked around in platforms and drank from a flask before performing psychic surgery. Plus, her office was fab. Sorry I'm late to the party, guys. What was with that vitriol from sinjection earlier? As a gay black male, I was offended.

[Swashbuckler]

Hell, Morrison's Emma was more of a gay icon than Dazzler. She walked around in platforms and drank from a flask before performing psychic surgery. Plus, her office was fab. Sorry I'm late to the party, guys. What was with that vitriol from sinjection earlier? As a gay black male, I was offended.

Tyical Sinjection was all, we just ignored it. And I agree. As much as I hate Emma being in charge of the school she's much more of a gay icon then Dazzler. For men, it's probably all about Northstar and Iceman.

[Phil Hunn]

Meltdwon is nowhere right now. I think people are conused as to if Nextwave is in continuity or not.

I'd like to see someone try to reference it, that's for sure.

And having seen it, I can confirm that Power Boy's costume is indeed gayer than Christmas...

As for Emma Frost... she ain't my icon, that's for sure.

[XYagentguy]

For men, it's probably all about Northstar and Iceman.
For sure!! MMM.
As much as I hate Emma being in charge of the school she's much more of a gay icon then Dazzler.
Like you said, like it or not, I think Emma would take number one spot if there was a vote.

I think Anole is quite sexy for a young green twink.

[Swashbuckler]

I keep thinking of mutant town and then Mass Ave in Indianapolis which is a pretty big gay hot spot. What if there was a decimation and all the gays there weren't gay anymore? That'd be insane.

[Rubicant]

I wonder what X-characters are popular with the gay community? I mean like...you know how liza minelli is with some? Yes i just made a very poor sterotypical comment but i couldn't think of anyone else..

Ok top hunks i bet;

cyke
bobyice

girls;

blatantly dazler
polaris?

For me, here it goes:

Guys:

Iceman (his costumes should be a pair of Aussiebums at all times)
Cannonball (probably the best transformation; he grew up hot)
Havok
Warpath (it's all about the thunderbird tattoo across his massive back)

Anole is too young to include, but as my boyfriend and I say sometimes, "give him a few years".

Girls:

Jean (always and forever my fave)
Psylocke
Emma Frost
Storm (she was fierce! until Hudlin)

[Askani's Flame]

Damn you staff meetings for making me miss the sinjection rant!!

I've always felt at home with the X-Men titles because of there odd ball status. Even as a gay guy, I don't have many gay friends, if any. I don't go to gay bars or to the areas of my city that are "gay friendly". It's not that I hate them, it's just that I don't feel like I bleong there either. I am gay, and I don't mind it, but I've never been overly excited to be. I don't think I need to let everyone I meet know, though I don't mind people knowing. I'm horrible at dating, and because I don't really get into the gay scene I rarely even meet other eligible guys.

Seriously, I second you on most of what you say here! So true. . .

Tyical Sinjection was all, we just ignored it. And I agree. As much as I hate Emma being in charge of the school she's much more of a gay icon then Dazzler. For men, it's probably all about Northstar and Iceman.

I see why some lean towards the glitz and glam of the fabu Dazzler, but I didn't find her to be a gay icon. Especially in her current state. I think that Emma fills the niche well currently because of how they portrayed her. I thought Psylocke or Polaris were up there in the 90's.

[XYagentguy]

Havok
Havok is hot, not gonna lie.

[firstfallen]

I am a heterosexual black male.

I have noticed a trend. There seems to be an inverse relationship between mutants of so-called sexual minorities and black male mutants.

The number of mutant gays and "other" seem to increase while the number of black male mutants have decreased from what few there were in the first place.

At times I suspect this reflects what is a clear hostility of some homosexuals against the black community - specifically the heterosexual black male - for their refusal to accept the homosexual community as a minority community with a legitimate claim to the legacy of the Civil Rights Struggle.

And now, the X-Men, a concept based upon the dynamics of the relationship between two of the greatest black male leaders of the Civil Rights Struggle - Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr and Malcolm X - and on the struggle of the black minority in this racist nation to be appreciated for their patriotism even during times when we were still enslaved and accepted as full citizens and not as second class citizens - this reality upon which the concept of the X-Men is based in part, has been co-opted by the sexual minorities.

I say to the writers of the x-franchise characters, do try not to kill off anymore black male characters, won't you?

____sinjection, a.k.a. Synch X


My God, guys I'm sorry to come back to these posts but I think it's important that certain things are cleared up.

First, there are far more african-american or afro-caribbean characters in Marvel than there are gay characters and considering that the LGBT community is growing, this is completely unjust. The problem however, stems from the fact that until about ten years ago, you weren't even allowed to imply that a character was gay in a comic book. So, Marvel really is yet to catch up to the change.

Gay people are far less accepted socially than people of ethnic minorities, so arguably this is why Marvel wants to include more gay characters because they want to educate people, so that it becomes accepted.

While the original premise of X-Men was on of ethnic civil rights based on Xavier's (Dr. King) and Magneto's (Malcolm X) radically different methods for combating the same problem. Stan Lee had hoped that more and more social minorities would identify with the books and that has happened. Civil rights is about the struggle for acceptance as a minority group from the majority, so I think that the LGTB community has every right to identify with it. When gay people mention Rosa Parks, they do so using her as an example of a person from an oppressed social group, who stood up against the social 'norm', to show that they have the right to be treated as an equal. That is what the LGBT community identifies with, the symbolism of standing up against oppression, not the fact that she was black.

Whatever way you cut it the LGBT community IS a minority community as there are far less of us in society than heterosexuals. A minority group is one that is politically subordinate to the socially accepted 'norm', I think being LGBT greatly qualifies. In the UK, overall, society is more accepting of alternate sexual orientations than they are in the US. This is because during the 1970's people from the LGBT community found a voice and campaigned, protested for equal political and economical rights to heterosexual people. Now in 2007 this has been largely achieved, much as black people and before that women achieved it earlier in history. Did you know that in the UK before the 1950's you could have been hung if you were male, just for kissing another man. (For lesbians it was different because people didn't even think that lesbianism existed). I think that's pretty damn terrible.

I do agree that Marvel should have more ethnically diverse character's, but a book that talks about oppression, prejudice, discrimination, should be popular with people of all minorities. Black people are not the only people to have been treated badly by society and they sure as hell won't be the last. So, people of the LGBT community have as much right to identify with X-Men and be represented in these books.

Homophobia is far more widespread than racism (unless you count southern US states, where it's probably the same), I think, so count yourself lucky that you are heterosexual, that you are accepted by society for who you are, because I'm sure there are a lot of people on this board who feel as if they aren't.

[Askani's Flame]

I wonder what X-characters are popular with the gay community? I mean like...you know how liza minelli is with some? Yes i just made a very poor sterotypical comment but i couldn't think of anyone else..

Ok top hunks i bet;

cyke
bobyice

girls;

blatantly dazler
polaris?

I would add Havok rather than Cyclops, add Anole, Rictor, Warpath and Madrox to the guys

girls: Storm, Jean, Emma and I don't know who else i would add. Maybe Psylocke or Rogue, but I'm unsure.

[Toboe]

I actually wrote a proposal for a book about FagHags. It's called "The Official FagHag Handbook" and it discusses rules to creating a good relationship for Fag and Hag. Rules like, not falling in love with each other, not getting jealous over past Hags, not feeling left out with the other dates people, and etc. etc. It's pretty funny. I finished chapters, it's about 160 pages now, but I never finished the book. i always get it out and think about it, but I just can't seem to get myself motivated

LOL That's so awesome, I'd definitely read it.


I have always wanted to see an X-Man fall for another one and be totally shot down. It doesn't happen often it seems. I mean, the Northstar/Iceman story could have been better, but Northstar just got over it. I want Angst, tears, something like Craig and John Paul from Hollyoaks! Or even a straight coupling that has this issue.

Yeah, I was expecting more form Northstar's crush on Iceman. That's one of the reason I wished for Mike Carey to have Northstar on the team after the Annual, it would have been excellent. But the crossover got in the way, and all we ever got to see between those two was Northstar reducing Iceman to steam...

The show queer as folk was set in Pittsburgh. And I loved how Mikey on that show had a Comic Book Store. That would be my dream, to own a comic shop. And sell lots of X-Men comics of course.

Right? That also became my dream as well! I just seemed so damn cool.

Since I'm a sucker for lists, my X-Men gay icons I can think of right now:

Emma Frost - the bitch's just fabulous
Iceman - eternal closeted boytoy
Cannonball - allegedly straight desribale guy
Angel - the milionaire playboy scene
Storm - there's really no need to say enything
Wolverine - for that rough one-night stand
Hellion - the bad boy attitude just kills me
Rictor - that ambiguous hottie!

[XYagentguy]

Maybe Psylocke or Rogue, but I'm unsure.
I think both are pretty heavy gay icons, Psylocke more so.

[MarvelGirlBoy]

LOL @ this thread already being so large.

Since I've discovered these forums, I'm simply flabbergasted that X-Men doesn't feature men legs akimbo every second page.

I would add Havok rather than Cyclops, add Anole, Rictor, Warpath and Madrox to the guys

girls: Storm, Jean, Emma and I don't know who else i would add. Maybe Psylocke or Rogue, but I'm unsure.

RACHEL. She talks about cheeseburgers and sweatpants, and has parent issues - and that Hound costume says "I tried rug and it wasn't to my taste, but I'm totally up for testing it again".

Havok never did it for me, I'm Scott's guy through and through.

[XYagentguy]

LOL @ this thread already being so large.
I have yet to see more than 2 other guy's pictures!!!!!!

Haven't seen any homo-erotic X-Men, either. Come on, you know it exists!!

[Novaya Havoc]

I demand Swashbuckler's account be deleted.

[Nyssane]

I demand Swashbuckler's account be deleted.

*GASP* NOT THE FATHER OF MY BABIES!!!

[caney]

I have yet to see more than 2 other guy's pictures!!!!!!

Haven't seen any homo-erotic X-Men, either. Come on, you know it exists!!

You should check out the cast me as an X-Man thread. Lots of peeps have posted picks there!

[Askani's Flame]

RACHEL. She talks about cheeseburgers and sweatpants, and has parent issues - and that Hound costume says "I tried rug and it wasn't to my taste, but I'm totally up for testing it again".

Well everyone loves rug when Claremont writes them, especially Storm:D

But yes, she's (Rachel) actually the reason I started reading comments. Angsty, broody, emotionally torn, prone to outbursts. . all things I did as a teenager trying to figure out who I was.

[CmX]

I am a heterosexual black male.

I have noticed a trend. There seems to be an inverse relationship between mutants of so-called sexual minorities and black male mutants.

The number of mutant gays and "other" seem to increase while the number of black male mutants have decreased from what few there were in the first place.

At times I suspect this reflects what is a clear hostility of some homosexuals against the black community - specifically the heterosexual black male - for their refusal to accept the homosexual community as a minority community with a legitimate claim to the legacy of the Civil Rights Struggle.

And now, the X-Men, a concept based upon the dynamics of the relationship between two of the greatest black male leaders of the Civil Rights Struggle - Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr and Malcolm X - and on the struggle of the black minority in this racist nation to be appreciated for their patriotism even during times when we were still enslaved and accepted as full citizens and not as second class citizens - this reality upon which the concept of the X-Men is based in part, has been co-opted by the sexual minorities.

I say to the writers of the x-franchise characters, do try not to kill off anymore black male characters, won't you?

____sinjection, a.k.a. Synch X

Shut the fuck up.

[Rubicant]

Oh, I forgot about Hellion. Before Skottie started drawing him with the long hair, he was quite the young hottie. Like here:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/cb/New_X-Men_35.jpg

[firstfallen]

In my opinion, and not presuming to speak for all black Americans, how the white homosexual feels about the black American community is the problem of the white homosexual community, not that of the black American community. Many of those white homosexual males evoking the name of Rosa Parks are as racist as the white cops who arrested Rosa for refusing to give up her seat on that bus. If white homosexuals believe that the black American community should be sympathetic and supportive of them when most in the black American community see that lifestyle as sinful, then again, whose fault is that?

Really, considering that you've just said that the black community see homosexuality as being 'sinful', then I think they have the problem. Don't talk about Religion, because religion is the route of all evil. It is a conservative force that only leads to hate. It talks about how gay people will burn in hell and the like, but that is b.s. The Bible is so conflicting, contradictory and hypocritical that anything in it has to be taken with a pinch of salt. Let's also not forget that there are editions of the Bible, that many americans used during the civil war, that talked about how black people were the work of the devil and such. As time changes and the focus of social hatred changes, so too do the interpretations of religious texts to justify or in some cases create this hate. I think that given that both communities have been persecuted terribly in history, the black community should at least understand what the LGBT community is felling. If they don't, then all it proves is my theory that bigotry and prejudice exist even in those groups who have suffered persecution, they merely redirect the fear and hatred that was once aimed at them. That is hypocrisy!

The Down Low Brotha is a very real and dangerous problem in the black community. Those men are extremely troubled. They refuse to believe themselves to be either homosexual or bisexual. Yet, they continue to have sexual rendevous with bi-sexual or homosexual males. Too often those males are infected with HIV which they then take home to their wives or female significant other. There is no hypocrisy at all. The black American community does not reject the homosexual brother and sister, but the lifestyle itself is rejected by the majority of the community. Whether or not you think that is inconsistent is immaterial to me.

The black American community owes a great deal to its homosexual members. I won't go into it here on this thread. When a white homosexual claims that he and the gay community is "like the blacks", what they are in fact doing is usurping the place of the black homosexual. If white homosexuals are "like the blacks", then who are black homosexuals like?

I won't belabor the issue and this will be my final post to this thread. I simply wanted to make known my observation that while so many mutants seem to be "coming out of the closet" or "being outed" these days, there are more and more black male mutants depowered, dead or dying. This in a comicbook which to a large degree, was inspired by the Civil Rights Movement of Black Americans.

____sinjection, a.k.a. Synch X


Again,you are simply adding more evidence that black culture is homophobic and hypocritical, when I refuse to believe that that is entirely the case. You can not accept the 'gay black man' and then reject his lifestyle. He is who he is, and he has the right to live his life the way he chooses without fear of persecution. You can not change being gay as much as you can change the colour of your eyes, or your skin etc. Most scientists agree that sexual orientation is biologically predetermined, so no matter what your local televangelist says, it can't be changed.

White homosexuals are like black homosexuals because they are all homosexual, they have a common cause and agenda, acceptance. Martin Luther King was a Christian, Malcolm X was Muslim, just because they had different religious beliefs, didn't mean that they weren't fighting for the same cause. They were different, yet their cause was the same.

Can I also just make clear that scientifically speaking HIV is spread by HETEROSEXUAL sex primarily, not homosexual sex. So, don't make AIDS/HIV into an exclusively gay problem, when in fact heterosexuals are the primary transmitters.

[XYagentguy]

You should check out the cast me as an X-Man thread. Lots of peeps have posted picks there!
Can anyone link that to me? Can't seem to find it.

[Gaveedra 6]

Did anyone else find the recent scene in the infirmary between Iceman and Cannonball to be seriously sexual/romantic? Their buddy-buddy relationship has been the stuff of gay fanboy speculation for a long time, but that scene played into it more than anything I can recall. Bobby was totally acting like a boyfriend whose lover had been injured. And the visuals were right out of a romance comic.

Bobby totally had Mystique change into Sam.. :p

On a different note, I've been thinking lately about the stretch when the Beast "came out" and it was sort of written out as a publicity stunt. That still bugs me - I know it didn't really jive with his character and I'm sure it angered some fans, but just the idea that someone in a comic can say "I'm Gay" and have it be dismissed by all their friends as "crazy" or "a phase" and then never talked about again is disappointing.

[caney]

Can anyone link that to me? Can't seem to find it.

Here ya go: http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=30296

[Cayman]

Did anyone else find the recent scene in the infirmary between Iceman and Cannonball to be seriously sexual/romantic? Their buddy-buddy relationship has been the stuff of gay fanboy speculation for a long time, but that scene played into it more than anything I can recall. Bobby was totally acting like a boyfriend whose lover had been injured. And the visuals were right out of a romance comic.

Bobby totally had Mystique change into Sam.. :p

On a different note, I've been thinking lately about the stretch when the Beast "came out" and it was sort of written out as a publicity stunt. That still bugs me - I know it didn't really jive with his character and I'm sure it angered some fans, but just the idea that someone in a comic can say "I'm Gay" and have it be dismissed by all their friends as "crazy" or "a phase" and then never talked about again is disappointing.

He didn't actually come out. He was dissing his ex.

[Rubicant]

firstfallen, I wouldn't even bother with any rebuttal of sinjection's "points". I've seen him in action on other threads and to be honest, he's a gross stereotype. Anyway, topic. For those of you who read House of M and the Decimation afterwards, I have a question: did any of you think of the mutants-as-gay-population metaphor and get a sudden chill from that story?

[Pro]

did any of you think of the mutants-as-gay-population metaphor and get a sudden chill from that story?

Nah i saw it as an editorial stunt to promote avengers over the backs of 16 million mutants.

[Phil Hunn]

firstfallen, I wouldn't even bother with any rebuttal of sinjection's "points". I've seen him in action on other threads and to be honest, he's a gross stereotype. Anyway, topic. For those of you who read House of M and the Decimation afterwards, I have a question: did any of you think of the mutants-as-gay-population metaphor and get a sudden chill from that story?

No, I was just basking in the glory of Our Lord Magneto as lord of all mankind ;)

[Gaveedra 6]

He didn't actually come out. He was dissing his ex.

I know, but he went through some grand coming out gestures only to have them all dismissed, which bugs me. It's sort of funny that it was all revealed to be a ruse to take the piss out of Trish, but I can't imagine that was Grant Morrisson's original intent. Hank even had some great lines to the point of "I'm a giant blue cat mutant scientist. I might as well be a gay icon as well." He was trying to do something that had real big social relevancy, even if deep down he was straight, but it was just swept under the rug.

[firstfallen]

firstfallen, I wouldn't even bother with any rebuttal of sinjection's "points". I've seen him in action on other threads and to be honest, he's a gross stereotype. Anyway, topic. For those of you who read House of M and the Decimation afterwards, I have a question: did any of you think of the mutants-as-gay-population metaphor and get a sudden chill from that story?

I know, sorry, it just angered me so much. People who say things like that but have no factual basis for anything they are saying. It was just so offensive to most of the people on this board. I am a firm believer of acceptance for all, and he completely seems to go against that.

Anyhoo, something more happy and cheerful in this topic.

I must agree thinking about it Rubicant, it does seem like you know all these representatives of social minorities and suddenly oh look they're all 'normal'.

I definately think they should have put Iceman and Northstar together, they're two of my favourite characters. I always go back to Uncanny #415 and look at that scene where Iceman says to Northstar after having the crap kicked out of him, 'Hey handsome, nice uniform, do you come here often.' I just think 'wey hey!'

Let's face it Bobby likes the old, shirtless routine (maybe with an open jacket), some little tight hotpants or shorts, with nothing else. HIt's not like we all haven't seen the signs, and he doesn't exactly have much luck with heterosexual relationships does he? Lol. :D

[Phil Hunn]

I know, but he went through some grand coming out gestures only to have them all dismissed, which bugs me. It's sort of funny that it was all revealed to be a ruse to take the piss out of Trish, but I can't imagine that was Grant Morrisson's original intent.

Look at the context. Look at the line and its throwaway nature. "Oh, and I think I might be gay." That's Hank saying "You don't even arouse me at all any more. That's how much I think of you for listening to those newspapers who described our relationship as bestiality."

Hank's exploration of being a "gay icon" was clearly nothing more than a cruel social experiment on his part, and I really wanted to see Northstar take him to task on it. Emma Frost realised that early on, and provided one of the few positive moments I saw from her in that entire run when she called Hank on his duplicity.

I definately think they should have put Iceman and Northstar together, they're two of my favourite characters. I always go back to Uncanny #415 and look at that scene where Iceman says to Northstar after having the crap kicked out of him, 'Hey handsome, nice uniform, do you come here often.' I just think 'wey hey!'

Chuck Austen was apparently planning to have them kiss in an arc entitled "The Ultimate X-Men", about the X-Men being put into a TV show or something along those lines. Can't have seen Marvel going for that, though.

[ImpulseUCF]

Storm can't be gay! She hasn't ever shagged Yukio or spent ages pining over her or had fantasies about living with her or anything!And don't forget the hot tub with Tentacallisto AND Yukio.

[Phil Hunn]

And don't forget the hot tub with Tentacallisto AND Yukio.

Oh yeah, Hentai-Callisto... subtlety, thy name was Claremont. Especially in that scene.

[Swashbuckler]

Ok, now that i'm home....

Here is a picture of me and my good friend Beth....

http://x16.xanga.com/541c156526330160029169/m120333551.jpg

and in the vain on the X-babies, here is X-Baby Swashbuckler

http://x31.xanga.com/d47c117749d31160029168/m120333550.jpg

[Gaveedra 6]

Look at the context. Look at the line and its throwaway nature. "Oh, and I think I might be gay." That's Hank saying "You don't even arouse me at all any more. That's how much I think of you for listening to those newspapers who described our relationship as bestiality."

Hank's exploration of being a "gay icon" was clearly nothing more than a cruel social experiment on his part, and I really wanted to see Northstar take him to task on it. Emma Frost realised that early on, and provided one of the few positive moments I saw from her in that entire run when she called Hank on his duplicity.

There was certainly alot going on behind Hank's decision to "come out". Didn't he have interviews on TV and on the front page of Time talking about his gayness? It was definitely one of the more "mature" sub-plots of the GM era. I too would have liked to have seen Jean Paul call him out on it.

Jean Paul: I've set up a date for you with this guy I met in Winnipeg. No pressure. Just coffee. He's a cat person too. You'll love him.

Hank: I... err.. umm.. Sorry! Busy creating a nano-sentinel antibody serum! Bye!

[Toboe]

Oh, I forgot about Hellion. Before Skottie started drawing him with the long hair, he was quite the young hottie. Like here:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/cb/New_X-Men_35.jpg

I actually do not like that cover at all. Both Hellion and X-23 look just so bad. I loved how he looked on the Hellions mini, and I'm quite fond of Ramos version. But when Mark Brooks was doing New X-Men... how can you resist to this?

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/153/hellionjuliankeller3ap3.jpg

Did anyone else find the recent scene in the infirmary between Iceman and Cannonball to be seriously sexual/romantic? Their buddy-buddy relationship has been the stuff of gay fanboy speculation for a long time, but that scene played into it more than anything I can recall. Bobby was totally acting like a boyfriend whose lover had been injured. And the visuals were right out of a romance comic.

The best thing about Carey's run. :D

I was sooo expecting the sex scene on X-Men #200 to be between them.

[jester1436]

Hellion is totally a fag stag, what with Anole and Tag (RIP).

[Gaveedra 6]

Hellion is totally a fag stag, what with Anole and Tag (RIP).

Heh, you're right! The hot straight guy every gay guy wants as a roommate in the dorms..

I think Polaris is probably the prime fag hag in the X-Books. She acts like the girl next door, but she keeps trying to dress like a diva (Someone needs to tell her to stop.) Too bad she was such beech to Bobby. He would have clued her in on what boys like.

[XYagentguy]

Personally, I always thought Paco Medina drew some sexy x-kiddies.

[firstfallen]

Personally, I always thought Paco Medina drew some sexy x-kiddies.

Very true although the cover of New X-Men #45 makes Julian look japanese. Lol. Hellion is tres sexy, as is Elixir. *Wolf whistles*

[fitditz]

Personally my favourite x-boys are:

Havok - will always be #1 in my pants
Madrox - gotta be the twins thing...in this case you can never have enough
Angel - uh, its a boy...with wings!
Iceman - he really does need to come out...the readers all know it, now it only takes someone to create a good enough story for it to happen
Cyclops - how can you debate this? arrogant, confident, yummy
Northstar - never thought i'd miss him but when are they bringing him back?
Cannonball - he developed into a man quite nicely :)

[Beast]

Since I posted it over in the Gay Avengers thread, I thought I'd share it here also.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v97/MasterSplinter/NewDefenders.jpg

[Phil Hunn]

There was certainly alot going on behind Hank's decision to "come out". Didn't he have interviews on TV and on the front page of Time talking about his gayness?

Indeed he did. "I'm as gay as it gets", was the headline, as I recall. This was the magazine that Emma was reading prior to her calling him on it.

It was definitely one of the more "mature" sub-plots of the GM era. I too would have liked to have seen Jean Paul call him out on it.

Jean Paul: I've set up a date for you with this guy I met in Winnipeg. No pressure. Just coffee. He's a cat person too. You'll love him.

Hank: I... err.. umm.. Sorry! Busy creating a nano-sentinel antibody serum! Bye!

LOL. That would have been very funny, I agree. Would have knocked Hank down a peg or two - which he needed at times during Morrison's run.

Although that was sort of balanced out by that whole "having to use a litter tray and getting beaten up by Beak" thing, so...

Since I posted it over in the Gay Avengers thread, I thought I'd share it here also.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v97/MasterSplinter/NewDefenders.jpg

...

...

... the hell is with that? :eek:

[Beast]

...

...

... the hell is with that? :eek:
Let's just say, there's a great deal of homoeroticism in New Defenders.

[Phil Hunn]

Let's just say, there's a great deal of homoeroticism in New Defenders.

A half-naked, all-male chorus line? That's taking a subtext and making it a surtext ;)

[Novaya Havoc]

Heh, you're right! The hot straight guy every gay guy wants as a roommate in the dorms..

I think Polaris is probably the prime fag hag in the X-Books. She acts like the girl next door, but she keeps trying to dress like a diva (Someone needs to tell her to stop.) Too bad she was such beech to Bobby. He would have clued her in on what boys like.

Plus Lorna always need affirmation from males. Totz faghag.

[Beast]

As for Beast's coming out. He explained to Scott why he kept up the charade.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v97/MasterSplinter/heisNOTghey.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v97/MasterSplinter/whoahesreallyNOTgay.jpg

[Beast]

And while we're on the subject, here's the so-called outing.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v97/MasterSplinter/BeastGay.jpg

[firstfallen]

I suppose my list of top guys would be...

Gambit - it's like Christina Strain said, he's just dirty hot. The eyes, the body, the charming personality. And as Jean-Paul said he has hot, spicy cajun buns. Lol.

Iceman - cute face, cheeky, hot body, doesn't like to wear clothes, perfect. Lol.

Madrox - God if only I could have been M or Terry, especially when you can have more than one of him.

Havok - Definately the hottest Summers brother.

Hellion - again he's cute, he's got a great body for a 16 year old, and he's become a much better person since M-Day.

Elixir - hot body, golden skin, blonde and blue, just the way I like 'em.

Anole - Despite being green, and having that huge spiky arm, the guy's cute, and he's sensitive - always a bonus.

Cannonball - Sam has a few attractive qualities, the face, the body, the sense of humour. What more could you want?

Northstar - he's just hot, hot, hot. And he's a bit of a bitch, I like that...Lol.

Angel - depending on who draws him, hot body, pretty face, again he's blonde and blue, and he's rich (for all those gold diggers out there) Lol.

Even though they're not X-Characters, Hulkling and Wiccan are damn cute, I would not say no to being with either of them.

Sometimes I wish they'd bring out another swimsuit edition with these guys in it. Lol. ;)

[Novaya Havoc]

Why Dazzler is my gay diva.

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb128/Vignarajesan/vigzdazzler1.jpg

BAM.

[Phil Hunn]

Why Dazzler is my gay diva.

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb128/Vignarajesan/vigzdazzler1.jpg

BAM.

You mean you like her ability to stick her boobs AND her butt out at the same time, all while wearing roller skates? It's certainly a skill, but is it a worthwhile one?

... I'll get me coat.

[Gaveedra 6]

As for Beast's coming out. He explained to Scott why he kept up the charade.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v97/MasterSplinter/heisNOTghey.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v97/MasterSplinter/whoahesreallyNOTgay.jpg

Yeah, and that was sort of the last we heard about it, IIRC. He was raising some interesting points, even if it was a joke that went too far.

Personally, I always really liked Scott's unconditional love for his "crazy" buddy Hank in that scene.

Being a fictional mutant strongly parallels gayness - and alot of devoted gay readers can attest. Lots of gays have probably had the feeling of "I may as well be a mutant!" Why couldn't more mutants say "I might as well be gay"? Beast's the only one to make that leap.

[Novaya Havoc]

You mean you like her ability to stick her boobs AND her butt out at the same time, all while wearing roller skates? It's certainly a skill, but is it a worthwhile one?


Yes, Phil. Yes it is.

I'd give my lower 6 ribs to be able to pull that off!

[caney]

Why Dazzler is my gay diva.

BAM.

Soooooo shiny and colorful. I was lost in the image for a minute there.

[caney]

Wait, why are all us X-gays sitting in a tree? We should all be out at some fabulous club or something.

[Flâneur]

Guys:
Iceman
Madrox
Havok
Northstar
Angel


Gay icon-esque Girls:
Emma
Rachel
Psylocke
Karma
Sunfire (Exiles)
Dazzler

[Flâneur]

Wait, why are all us X-gays sitting in a tree? We should all be out at some fabulous club or something.

We're all fucking each other's brains out. 'Sif go to a club instead.

[Novaya Havoc]

Sunfire (Exiles)


Money baby. Dirty Sexy Money.

http://hydepark.hevre.co.il/upload04_2/040402_001041-3176_6.JPG

[Toboe]

Wait, why are all us X-gays sitting in a tree? We should all be out at some fabulous club or something.

Homophobia, that's what it is.

[Josef F.]

There's not enough love for Nightcrawler in this thread.
I don't even care that he's blue.
I would DO him.

=D

[Toboe]

This scene is extremely bizarre in so many levels...

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/9889/sambobbysd2.jpg

[Flâneur]

There's not enough love for Nightcrawler in this thread.
I don't even care that he's blue.
I would DO him.

=D

You don't care that he's blue? Ugh, stop taking advantage of the depressed, you evil predator.

[Fatguy]

This scene is extremely bizarre in so many levels...

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/9889/sambobbysd2.jpg

LOL

Whole hand or just a few digits???

[Faded]

Did anyone else find the recent scene in the infirmary between Iceman and Cannonball to be seriously sexual/romantic? Their buddy-buddy relationship has been the stuff of gay fanboy speculation for a long time, but that scene played into it more than anything I can recall. Bobby was totally acting like a boyfriend whose lover had been injured. And the visuals were right out of a romance comic.

Yeah, definitely.

I don't know if it was a slight wink wink from Carey or a nudge nudge by Choi, but they really seemed like a pair of close friends who would keep that option open, should their girlfriends revert to terrorism or be Lila Cheney.

Very true although the cover of New X-Men #45 makes Julian look japanese. Lol. Hellion is tres sexy, as is Elixir. *Wolf whistles*

Julian always looked slightly Asian, maybe even Hispanic to me, forcing my theory that he may be a sexy Eurasian created to seduce a Venezuelan beauty, three mind-reading blondes, and an adorable reptilian boy.

Why Dazzler is my gay diva.

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb128/Vignarajesan/vigzdazzler1.jpg

BAM.

That is gorgeous!!! Did my Veggie do that?!?

This scene is extremely bizarre in so many levels...

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/9889/sambobbysd2.jpg

LOL!!! I remember that!!

[Josef F.]

You don't care that he's blue? Ugh, stop taking advantage of the depressed, you evil predator.

Taking advantage of people's the only way i get some.

=]

[frog]

Yeah, and that was sort of the last we heard about it, IIRC. He was raising some interesting points, even if it was a joke that went too far.

Personally, I always really liked Scott's unconditional love for his "crazy" buddy Hank in that scene.

Being a fictional mutant strongly parallels gayness - and alot of devoted gay readers can attest. Lots of gays have probably had the feeling of "I may as well be a mutant!" Why couldn't more mutants say "I might as well be gay"? Beast's the only one to make that leap.

This definitely wasn't one of Beast's finer moments. I certainly acknowledge the parallels between the mutant and gay community but pretending to be a gay role model when you really aren't just isn't cool. Imagine how betrayed a kid would feel if he looked up to Beast because of that and then found out he lied!

[Slung]

Gay icon-esque Girls:
Emma
Rachel
Psylocke
Karma
Sunfire (Exiles)
Dazzler

Ummm...Jean! Duh! The ultimate X-Diva!

[wshaunpennington]

I always thought Rogue was added to the X-men in the 80s to create a queer presence. She fits all the stereotypes of the 80's Act UP queer: absent father, overprotective mother, disasterous first relationship, left home for a better life, takes style cues from punk and new wave, falls for prettyboys who are initially interested but eventually leave her for the pretty girl (Longshot) or try to kill her (Gambit)...oh, and there's that whole can't touch anyone or if she touches someone for too long they die thing, which I thought was a pretty good metaphor for queer longing and AIDS in Reagan America.

[XYagentguy]

I always thought Rogue was added to the X-men in the 80s to create a queer presence. She fits all the stereotypes of the 80's Act UP queer: absent father, overprotective mother, disasterous first relationship, left home for a better life, takes style cues from punk and new wave, falls for prettyboys who are initially interested but eventually leave her for the pretty girl (Longshot) or try to kill her (Gambit)...oh, and there's that whole can't touch anyone or if she touches someone for too long they die thing, which I thought was a pretty good metaphor for queer longing and AIDS in Reagan America.
Are you gay?

[Swashbuckler]

I'm so proud of this little thread, 12 pages! woohoo. Anyway, I just finished watching Kinsey, which is one of my favorite movies. I wonder where all the X-Men lie on the Kinsey scale.

[Gaveedra 6]

I'm so proud of this little thread, 12 pages! woohoo. Anyway, I just finished watching Kinsey, which is one of my favorite movies. I wonder where all the X-Men lie on the Kinsey scale.

Along the same lines as the whole topic about the beast saying "I'm a mutant, so I may as well be gay" I like to think they're pretty much all a little gay. Except maybe Cyclops.

Sure, for the most part they date the opposite sex. That doesn't mean Hank doesn't notice the sweat dripping down Warren's chest as he lifts weights. Or Jean and Ororo don't practice kissing together. Or Longshot wasn't seceretly running off to visit Wolverine and Havok on alternating nights during that long spell in the outback. They're all impossibly pretty and run around in spandex.

[Flâneur]

Well it's probably safe to assume that most of them experimented with each other over their time together. Think about it, a bunch of young guys with secrets no one else can know, put in constant danger, relying solely on each other ... the sexual tension would be like BOW CHICKA WOW WOW.

[Brian Cronin]

I don't like the ghettoized threads.

I barely allow the threads for each character.

-Brian