X-Men #205 (Messiah CompleX chapter 5): (not)Sexy Summary, Spoilers, Discussion! [Archive]

Mitsaso

11-28-2007, 09:25 AM

I'm sorry, I couldn't make this summary sexy enough! Blame Marvel, I say, for an issue that was all fight and deadly bussiness, with no sexy shots around!:p

The issue begins with Layla and Jamie gawking at the mutant internment camp that will comfortably house every existing mutant in the future. Between bickering and exchanging petty on-liners, they share with us the fact that the records back in the library they checked out had been conveniently edited so that they'd find nothing of great importance there. Their only plan now is to somehow get into that camp!

In Antarctica, Sinister threatens the X-Men. They're just five people against an army of deadly mutants, how do they expect to win? Angel tells him to try and read their minds, to realise it's actually six X-Men and not five. The ass-whupping begins! But why is Storm is fighting with a bloody spear? Is it some kind of Wakandan tradition?

Back at Xavier's, Slayton the Sentinel pilot is bored. Nobody's invading the place as they're supposed to, and Emma won't let him peek at the girls' dorms. Inside, Bishop is nagging at Scott for not waiting for his awesomeness to arrive at the mansion before sending the team after Sinister, also mentioning that his used his cop powers at people in the mutant underworld to get some info as well. Emma is sitting at the couch in a trance, with Bobby looking after her. She's the sixth X-Men fighting the Marauders in Antarctica - telepathically linking the other five mutants and shielding them from any psyhic attack. Cut to Antarctica- the fight is getting more and more intense! Nice shot of Frenzy being a pain in the ass for Colossus (she kinda looks like a fly bothering him while fighting, though!). Angel goes after Sinister, telling him to give them the child, and Sinister is being all bitchy. Further away, Gambit looks like he's bailing the fight! But Wolvie chatches up and kicks his nicely shaped butt.

In Washington, Deathstrike orders the Reavers to kill the New X-Men. X-23 spirals out of control and attacks while Santo asks Pixie to get them out of there, then gets injured by Deathstrike. Pixie takes her time instead, so Rictor butts in and reascues her from some Reavers with a big ass gun he probably stole from Cable's coffin. He and Anole urge her to calm down and try to teleport everyone out of there. Pixie attempts a blind teleport and everyone's now spread between Washington and the Mansion, in some innapropriate places. Pixie's screams reach Emma, breaking her link with Logan's team. Bobby offers to go bring the students in (he's now a glorified chauffer, lol!)

Back in Antarctica, Sinister has locked Emma out and now has the upper hand in the battle. However, Logan kicks Gambit's ass (also stabs him in the side) and demands answers about the baby, which he acquires. Sinister lashes at Angel and Piotr (who then gets ganged up on by everyone around), while Storm covers for Kurt, who sets out to find Logan. Karima dumps Angel's limp body at Logan, who gets caught off guard and then looks all morbid, leaving an opening for Karima to blast him. "Angel" was actually Scrambler, who got screened by the delightfully bitchy Lady M, in order to turn his healing factor off and make Karima's blast lethal. Kurt bamfs in and saves Logan's ass, teleporting him out, but not before her gets badly injured by one of Scalphunter's hollowpoint bullets. Logan tries to link with Emma to tell her about the info he got from Gambit. Sinister doesn't have the baby either, it was an X-Man who took her instead! Meanwhile, the Sentinels outside the mansion are taken over by something eeeeviiiiiiiiiil. So just as Cyke and team X are trying to cope with the new info and getting Wolvie's team out of their predicament, a Sentinel hand thrashes the wall and grabs Scott! Bishop, Bobby and Beast run out to face their new enemy; the re-programmed Sentinels, who now want to DESTROY the X-Men! Who would have thought?!?!?

Somewhere in a snowy place, a fluffy bunny is watching the renegade X-Man who holds the mutant baby girl and runs in the wild like crazy. Who could that white-haired, robotic-enhanced, big ass gun weilding mutant be?!?!?!?! LOL

I bet the bunny has a deeper role into all of this!

The greatness continues with this latest installment! I wonder what Cable's loyalties will turn out to be like after the crossover. Could it be that he actually grows into an INTERESTING character?:eek:

EDIT: Another summary for the ish can be found here: http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=5891929&postcount=135
Kudos to Andres!

frog

11-28-2007, 09:30 AM

Santo was the one to ask Pixie to pull a retreat? Now that's different!

Mike Carey said that we'd see a resolution to the Sentinels always hanging around the mansions soon. I imagine this is it!

streator

11-28-2007, 09:40 AM

this sounds good. does anyone have a scan of cable with the baby?

Joe Zool

11-28-2007, 09:49 AM

My jump-the-shark theory about Cable and the baby being Jean is beginning to look like more of a sure thing now...

Scipio72002

11-28-2007, 09:55 AM

I thought an X-Men fell in this one? Is it Nightcrawler or Hellion>?

Anna

11-28-2007, 09:56 AM

Sounds like poor little Pixie wasn't quite ready for combat. Nice to see Santo using his head for a change.

elixir86

11-28-2007, 09:56 AM

AMAZING!
Cable is back...I guess he found something about "4 minutes before the Dawn"

Wild Card13

11-28-2007, 09:58 AM

My jump-the-shark theory about Cable and the baby being Jean is beginning to look like more of a sure thing now...

They've all ready explicitly said that the baby is not Jean. They've all ready explicitly said that the baby has no pedigree at all. It's not related to any established characters. How do I know this?

Well, they explicitly said it.

ProfeZZor X

11-28-2007, 10:00 AM

I'm already ready for the next issue. This episode almost seems like another "transitional" issue, until we get to the really good stuff.

Mitsaso

11-28-2007, 10:02 AM

I thought an X-Men fell in this one? Is it Nightcrawler or Hellion>?

As of this issue, Angel, Nightcrawler and (mostly) Hellion are the ones who are or might be severely injured, but no death is confirmed yet. There's a chance that one of them might have died by now (so the "an X-Man falls!" info can be technically accurate), but the fact that none of them is confirmed dead makes me think that someone else is gonna bite it.

Scipio72002

11-28-2007, 10:05 AM

Interesting. Thanks Mitsaso, I am waiting for the trade to buy anything, so have to settle for spoilers and maybe a quick read in the store until then.

Joe Zool

11-28-2007, 10:07 AM

They've all ready explicitly said that the baby is not Jean. They've all ready explicitly said that the baby has no pedigree at all. It's not related to any established characters. How do I know this?

Well, they explicitly said it.

They also claimed Cable was dead. ;)

But yay for the internet. Everybody predicted Cable would return in the crossover and, hey, they were right! Some people even predicted what role he would play and that turned out to be correct also. Yay for the interweb.

By the way, I won't get this issue until Friday :( so does this issue show the "classified" Uncanny X-Men covers for next week?

Vaal

11-28-2007, 10:09 AM

They've all ready explicitly said that the baby is not Jean. They've all ready explicitly said that the baby has no pedigree at all. It's not related to any established characters. How do I know this?

Well, they explicitly said it.

They explicitly say a lot of things. Often these things are bald faced lies, so that option is still open.

CMBMOOL

11-28-2007, 10:23 AM

They also claimed Cable was dead. ;)

But yay for the internet. Everybody predicted Cable would return in the crossover and, hey, they were right! Some people even predicted what role he would play and that turned out to be correct also. Yay for the interweb.

Well it obivious what must be done now, the X-men have to either protect Cable or get Cable to help out the mutant baby. :D

And the baby's a girl mutant ?!? :eek:

frog

11-28-2007, 10:25 AM

Does the baby girl have any hair yet, and if so what color? :D

HeckBoy

11-28-2007, 10:59 AM

So Cable's back already huh? I didn't mean to spoil this issue for myself, but I absentmindedly clicked on this thread looking for something to read. But it seems not much really happened (except for the Cable reveal) so all's good I guess. I'll be waiting for the next ish and hopefully some more story progression.

f4faith

11-28-2007, 11:04 AM

also mentioning that his used his cop powers at people in the mutant underworld to get some info as well.

What info? Big whoop if it basically isn't anything helpful. I like Bishop in theory but his "cop" powers (his "deductions about the traitor could have been done by a kindergardener better) have so far been pretty down right pathetic as far as I can tell unless it's in a series with only him. Better he stick to absorbing energy and redircting it if so.

Angel goes after Sinister, telling him to give them the child, and Sinister is being all bitchy. Further away, Gambit looks like he's bailing the fight! But Wolvie chatches up and kicks his nicely shaped butt......However, Logan kicks Gambit's ass (also stabs him in the side) and demands answers about the baby, which he acquires.

The only question that even comes of this issue is why/how Gambit even knows this - why Wolverine would assume he would - why Gambit tells Wolverine and doesn't even try to fight or really evade him (and look what he gets for his trouble). Does Gambit know because he tipped off Cable and hopes he's right or does he know because he saw Cable in the town and let him go or even more? It is obvious Sinister doesn't know this or he'd have the Marauders after Cable already.

Bobby offers to go bring the students in (he's now a glorified chauffer, lol!)

Or glorified baby sitter

Who would have thought?!?!?

Is this the same rhetorical question we should be asking when Cable shows up at the end?

Who could that white-haired, robotic-enhanced, big ass gun weilding mutant be?!?!?!?! LOL

And why is he just running in snow when he should obviously just get out the same way he got in before everyone else. :D

Mitsaso

11-28-2007, 11:22 AM

The only question that even comes of this issue is why/how Gambit even knows this - why Wolverine would assume he would - why Gambit tells Wolverine and doesn't even try to fight or really evade him (and look what he gets for his trouble). Does Gambit know because he tipped off Cable and hopes he's right or does he know because he saw Cable in the town and let him go or even more? It is obvious Sinister doesn't know this or he'd have the Marauders after Cable already.

I think it's safe to assume that Gambit is a double agent. He probably made it seem like he and Sunfire actually got Cable killed while he actually informed him about the baby's birth so that he would get there first. There's also a serious chance that he got away from the rest of the fight so that Logan could reach him there and whup his ass to avoid any suspicions, while he shared the Cable info with him.

I'm sure at least one of this things is accurate. However, they're all nice ways for Gambit to get some of the X-Men's trust back.

worstblogever

11-28-2007, 11:28 AM

Hey, wait... I thought they were there to rescue Rogue, too. Aw, man...

Mystique had better have grabbed her and ran in the confusion.

And picture the reaming that Nori's going to get for f***ing up Scott's battle plan because they distracted Emma, and the Antarctic team's backup had to go save the students.

BabeBro

11-28-2007, 12:03 PM

CaptainCanada

11-28-2007, 12:47 PM

the Antarctic team's backup had to go save the students.
The Antarctic team's backup was sitting on their asses in their comfortable mansion, so that part at least is a no-go.

kate-pryde

11-28-2007, 12:56 PM

The Antarctic team's backup was sitting on their asses in their comfortable mansion, so that part at least is a no-go.

Where is everyone else? There are plenty of others that could have been sent --- like Kitty. :D

I may pick up Messiah Complex now the Cable is back, but I'm still irked about the lack of Kitty, so my boycott may continue.

Brian M.

11-28-2007, 12:59 PM

Where is everyone else? There are plenty of others that could have been sent --- like Kitty. :D

I may pick up Messiah Complex now the Cable is back, but I'm still irked about the lack of Kitty, so my boycott may continue.

Yea...lack of Kitty...she's still at the mansion.. She's uh...sitting next to Jean.

claimtosubclaim

11-28-2007, 01:01 PM

Where is everyone else? There are plenty of others that could have been sent

For some reason, it never occurred to the great strategist Summers to send Monet -- a mutant with superhuman strength, speed, agility, endurance, accelerated healing factor; supersonic flight, and telepathy -- to take on the Marauders. Shame.

Canemacar

11-28-2007, 01:01 PM

So let me guess, Rogue is still in her deathbed while everyone is a part of all the action. Jeesh, Carey. Just screw us Rogue fans over. Make her leader and a morbid corpse at the same time to even things out huh :rolleyes:

Get over yourself. You know that Carey's promised Rogue will play a huge role near the end, so stop acting all victimized.

rwsmith

11-28-2007, 01:06 PM

Yeah, baby! Cable's back. I'm sincerely hoping that Axel is successful in making him a cool character again through this crossover. Only time will tell, I guess. I just hope he doesn't end up stranded in some other time at the end of this event (as has been hinted at by Marvel).

BabeBro

11-28-2007, 01:06 PM

Get over yourself. You know that Carey's promised Rogue will play a huge role near the end, so stop acting all victimized.
Jeesh, what crawled up your butt and gave birth :confused:
And yes I will complain, sad you can't do anything about it but complain summore. It's not my fault your dear ole' Gambit has become the official X-Men tennis ball :rolleyes:

Nyssane

11-28-2007, 01:08 PM

Get over yourself. You know that Carey's promised Rogue will play a huge role near the end, so stop acting all victimized.

There's no need to be rude.

Canemacar

11-28-2007, 01:10 PM

Jeesh, what crawled up your butt and gave birth :confused: And yes I will complain, sad you can't do anything about it but complain summore. It's not my fault your dear ole' Gambit has become the official X-Men tennis ball :rolleyes:

My only complaint was Wolvie didn't finish the job.

And you've got nothing to complain about; Rogue's still at the center of everything, with a writer who is a huge fanboy, and a guaranteed spot in a book after the shake-up. Whining about her not doing anything for a few issues is just being foolish.

mike627

11-28-2007, 01:13 PM

Where is everyone else? There are plenty of others that could have been sent --- like Kitty. :D

I may pick up Messiah Complex now the Cable is back, but I'm still irked about the lack of Kitty, so my boycott may continue.No big loss it's not like she wolud approve of everything going on right now.

BabeBro

11-28-2007, 01:14 PM

My only complaint was Wolvie didn't finish the job.

And you've got nothing to complain about; Rogue's still at the center of everything, with a writer who is a huge fanboy, and a guaranteed spot in a book after the shake-up. Whining about her not doing anything for a few issues is just being foolish.A few issues? Do you have any idea how many issues Rogue has spent with her eyes closed? :rolleyes: LOL! I didn't want her and Gambit to get angsty. I wanted her to fry his mullet worse then if Uncle Jesse from Full House was in the Malibu fires.

drwho

11-28-2007, 01:14 PM

How did you get your books so soon? I thought they were coming out thursday this week. Is this the original Reavers, or a new group with new characters?

Canemacar

11-28-2007, 01:17 PM

A few issues? Do you have any idea how many issues Rogue has spent with her eyes closed? :rolleyes: LOL! I didn't want her and Gambit to get angsty. I wanted her to fry his mullet worse then if Uncle Jesse from Full House was in the Malibu fires.

A few issues in which everyone was angsting about her getting hurt, trying to save her, and speculating about if she's okay. Don't you get it? Carey's doing that because he wants to show how much everyone cares about Rogue and the lengths they'll go to to save her. Quit the whining.

LordAllMighty

11-28-2007, 01:18 PM

Wait...the X-men go to the Antarctic and don't include Iceman as a memeber.:confused:

Hello Iceman......:eek:

BabeBro

11-28-2007, 01:23 PM

A few issues in which everyone was angsting about her getting hurt, trying to save her, and speculating about if she's okay. Don't you get it? Carey's doing that because he wants to show how much everyone cares about Rogue and the lengths they'll go to to save her. Quit the whining.
I'd rather have her fight and not cared about, rather then have her as some sick little girl in distress. Oh well, here's to hoping she wakes up in # 206 :rolleyes:

Pach!

11-28-2007, 01:27 PM

How did you get your books so soon? I thought they were coming out thursday this week. Is this the original Reavers, or a new group with new characters?

Only in the US, the rest of the world gets their books on wednesday this week.

Canemacar

11-28-2007, 01:29 PM

I'd rather have her fight and not cared about, rather then have her as some sick little girl in distress. Oh well, here's to hoping she wakes up in # 206 :rolleyes:

Something tells me you'll be getting the best of both worlds before all is said and done.

drwho

11-28-2007, 01:29 PM

Only in the US, the rest of the world gets their books on wednesday this week.

Something sounds so dumb and wrong about that. Foreigners getting their books first. baaahh

Speed

11-28-2007, 01:32 PM

Storm is finally back to the field leader she used to be.
What went wrong? The New X-Men screwing up again.
I wish Karima would come back to the X-Men...

I will give a review once I have the issue.

frog

11-28-2007, 01:33 PM

Something sounds so dumb and wrong about that. Foreigners getting their books first. baaahh
That's what happens when you take time off for turkey!

Samuraixsithlord

11-28-2007, 01:34 PM

Hmmm I wonder who reprogramed the Sentinals. The Marauders were fighting the X-men and the Purifiers were fighting the New X-men. Hmmmm I think Nimrods back

Pach!

11-28-2007, 01:35 PM

Something sounds so dumb and wrong about that. Foreigners getting their books first. baaahh

Uhhh...ok I guess? Whatever, it's been happening since forever.

Red Lotus

11-28-2007, 01:39 PM

Something sounds so dumb and wrong about that. Foreigners getting their books first. baaahh

Agreed. Dang foreigners :mad: HOW dare you get yours books first. With all the things we Americans do for you. I hope you get extremely painful paper cuts from them. :p

The Cool Thatguy

11-28-2007, 02:00 PM

I'm curious, did they explain why they only sent five guys after the Maruaders? I mean, between two teams of X-Men and X-Factor, you'd think they would have committed more muscle to the mission.

frog

11-28-2007, 02:02 PM

I'm curious, did they explain why they only sent five guys after the Maruaders? I mean, between two teams of X-Men and X-Factor, you'd think they would have committed more muscle to the mission.

I'd guess they were thinking that Emma was enough to keep the upper hand until the New X-Men distracted her. Spankings and time-out for all the kids!

Nyssane

11-28-2007, 02:06 PM

As sexy as Mitsy's summary was, I still wanna hear Andres's summary as he promised!

The Cool Thatguy

11-28-2007, 02:09 PM

I'd guess they were thinking that Emma was enough to keep the upper hand until the New X-Men distracted her. Spankings and time-out for all the kids!

I think Scott needs to turn in his leadership card if he thinks that was enough of an edge against not only the Marauders, but Mr. Sinister and Exodus. At the very least, they should have added either Monet or Warpath for more muscle.

ExodusCloak

11-28-2007, 02:10 PM

I'm curious, did they explain why they only sent five guys after the Maruaders? I mean, between two teams of X-Men and X-Factor, you'd think they would have committed more muscle to the mission.

Mr. Sinister
Exodus
Lady Mastermind
Joanna Cargil
Tempo
Gambit
Sunfire
Vertigo
Arclight
Random
Mystique
Malice in Omega Sentinel
Riptide
Scalphunter
Carmella Unuscione
Scrambler

With Sinister, Exodus and Lady Mastermind helpless, all that was left was a few Class 25 and lower brawlers who Colossus could easily deal with. The wild cards were Scrambler who has to make contact with his victim, Tempo who can't hold time still for long and holding many objects puts a major strain on her powers, Vertigo whose powers can be a real pain in the ass and Sunfire who I think Storm would be able to deal with. All four were targeted first.
Granted you have Arclight and Omega Sentinel who are more then Brawlers but they didn't do as much as they should have.
They were outnumbered and out powered. But they managed to subdue the big guns on the Marauders side.

So in essence what you have is 4 X-Men(Won't count Angel) vs:

Brawlers easily dealt with by Colossus:
Joanna Cargil
Carmella Unuscione

Can't see doing much:
Gambit
Mystique
Scalphunter

Wild Cards that were targeted by Storm and Nightcrawler:
Tempo
Sunfire
Vertigo
Scrambler

Eh they didn't bring their A game:
Arclight
Random
Malice in Omega Sentinel
Riptide

CaptainCanada

11-28-2007, 02:11 PM

frog

11-28-2007, 02:13 PM

Bishop said they didn't send enough, but Cyclops said they didn't have time to send in extra people, so he ordered Wolverine's group to forge ahead.

That makes sense. I imagine they certainly were in a hurry. And I suppose it's just as well all the X-Men didn't go if the Sentinels are attacking.

claimtosubclaim

11-28-2007, 02:16 PM

I'm curious, did they explain why they only sent five guys after the Maruaders? I mean, between two teams of X-Men and X-Factor, you'd think they would have committed more muscle to the mission.

I suppose it was on the writers' behalf so the plot point remains that the X-Men lose the battle. The strike team should have just shown up with Iceman, Monet, Siryn, Strong Guy, Warpath, Rahne, Bishop, and Xavier('s mind) in tow and killed the entire Marauders/Acolytes team for good. Then they would save about 80% of the grief they're going to get in Messiah Complex Chapters 6-13. But that would shorten the story and make the X-Men pseudo-villains...

Red Lotus

11-28-2007, 02:16 PM

Bishop said they didn't send enough, but Cyclops said they didn't have time to send in extra people, so he ordered Wolverine's group to forge ahead.

And, to be fair, they were pretty much completely running the field until the psi-disruption.

Add that with last issue, Sinister was getting his team out of there. If Cyclops would have waited and sent M and Warpath with the team Sinister might have been gone.

mr2core

11-28-2007, 02:17 PM

Thanks for the review, I have to w8 until 2morrow to get it.

Them dang on kids, messing up the rescue mission.:p

claimtosubclaim

11-28-2007, 02:19 PM

Add that with last issue, Sinister was getting his team out of there. If Cyclops would have waited and sent M and Warpath with the team Sinister might have been gone.

M could've flown there in time to catch up with the Blackbird. Of course, she'd be freezing her ass off half the way, since the base is in Antarctica.

Nyssane

11-28-2007, 02:19 PM

Brawlers easily dealt with by Colossus:
Joanna Cargil
Carmella Unuscione

For the last time, they were not easily dealt with by Colossus. They were actually two of the VERY few remaining Marauders left unscathed who didn't end up getting knocked out or killed.

ExodusCloak

11-28-2007, 02:22 PM

For the last time, they were not easily dealt with by Colossus. They were actually two of the VERY few remaining Marauders left unscathed who didn't end up getting knocked out or killed.

Okay, okay they weren't very effective. Better? :p

Slant

11-28-2007, 02:22 PM

M could've flown there in time to catch up with the Blackbird.
They were too much in a hurry to probably even worry about sending/notifying others.

DarthCyclopsRLZ

11-28-2007, 02:25 PM

They were too much in a hurry to probably even worry about sending/notifying others.

And there's the fact that she's, ya know, M.

CaptainCanada

11-28-2007, 02:29 PM

I thought Storm was very Thor-ish this issue, channeling the lightning through Harpoon's confiscated harpoon.

Slant

11-28-2007, 02:31 PM

And there's the fact that she's, ya know, M.

Well that too.

Nyssane

11-28-2007, 02:31 PM

Okay, okay they weren't very effective. Better? :p

Much. :D thx

claimtosubclaim

11-28-2007, 02:42 PM

They were too much in a hurry to probably even worry about sending/notifying others.

The time it takes to fly to Antarctica from the NY area, several hours.
The time it takes to radio in for M, 5-10 minutes. Hell, they had time to notify Cyclops about the Marauders' location. They could've been like... Dude, while you're sitting there drinking coffee in your office, can you maybe take a minute or two to call X-Factor's office?

Slant

11-28-2007, 02:50 PM

They could've been like... Dude, while you're sitting there drinking coffee in your office, can you maybe take a minute or two to call X-Factor's office?
Maybe they didn't want to. They weren't intimidated, and they thought they could do the job with Emma blocking Sinister.

And I really doubt Storm and Wolverine were like "OMG, WE NEED M!!!!!"

Callisto

11-28-2007, 02:59 PM

Red Lotus

11-28-2007, 03:13 PM

The time it takes to fly to Antarctica from the NY area, several hours.
The time it takes to radio in for M, 5-10 minutes. Hell, they had time to notify Cyclops about the Marauders' location. They could've been like... Dude, while you're sitting there drinking coffee in your office, can you maybe take a minute or two to call X-Factor's office?

Again the X-men caught the Marauders while they were getting ready to leave. Chances are they could have miss them in that 5-10 min range.

Brian M.

11-28-2007, 03:14 PM

M sucks. The less she is in this crossover the better.

Novaya Havoc

11-28-2007, 03:23 PM

M sucks. The less she is in this crossover the better.

That's a horrible thing to say.

Brian M.

11-28-2007, 03:26 PM

That's a horrible thing to say.

I would trade every M appearance for one Dazzler appearance.

Toboe

11-28-2007, 03:28 PM

That's a horrible thing to say.

Agreed.

I'm just wondering, where has Cable gone with the baby? Did he took it to another timeline or something? Maybe that's why Predator X keeps endlessly wandering around Canada. Or it could be Cable is really in Canada I guess...

claimtosubclaim

11-28-2007, 04:33 PM

Maybe they didn't want to. They weren't intimidated, and they thought they could do the job with Emma blocking Sinister.

And I really doubt Storm and Wolverine were like "OMG, WE NEED M!!!!!"

I have to say I'm surprised that Cyke thought they would be enough to take down the Marauders. He already knows that their numbers are well beyond six and that things might not go as planned (i.e. Emma getting her connection severed, and Regan pulling off an illusion on the team). Even if there wasn't enough time to call for backup, it would've been better to have Emma cloak the team and follow the Marauders while feeding coordinates to a second squad, who could move in for the kill from the opposite direction. Come on, Summers is supposed to be a mastered strategist.

f4faith

11-28-2007, 05:01 PM

Come on, Summers is supposed to be a mastered strategist.

I think the operative words in that sentence is "suppose to be" and to which I would say unless it's been in Astonishing (and even there it's just been in one issue really), he has not been for a long time. His handling of pretty much everything right before and resulting from House of M has been beyond inanely stupid. I still can't get over the idiocy of all the mutants on the front lawn bit or how poorly the New Mutants have been run. Scott's best leadership decisions have mostly come in the very heat of battle and very little in the planning and execution prior.

One question: is it explained and maybe I missed it how the X-Men suddenly found Sinister in the first place when they've supposedly never been able to do so before?

Toboe

11-28-2007, 05:09 PM

I think the operative words in that sentence is "suppose to be" and to which I would say unless it's been in Astonishing (and even there it's just been in one issue really), he has not been for a long time. His handling of pretty much everything right before and resulting from House of M has been beyond inanely stupid. I still can't get over the idiocy of all the mutants on the front lawn bit or how poorly the New Mutants have been run. Scott's best leadership decisions have mostly come in the very heat of battle and very little in the planning and execution prior.

One question: is it explained and maybe I missed it how the X-Men suddenly found Sinister in the first place when they've supposedly never been able to do so before?

I suppose the point of his development on Astonishing and his decisions on Messiah Complex is to give him his leadership skills and edge back.

And I think it was Amelia Voght who led the X-Men to Sinister on X-Factor's issue.

firstfallen

11-28-2007, 05:13 PM

One question: is it explained and maybe I missed it how the X-Men suddenly found Sinister in the first place when they've supposedly never been able to do so before?

Yeah it has, the X-Men found Amelia Voight who used to be an Acolyte and she knew where to find them, I suppose due to past experience or maybe she's kept in contact. We don't know how she knew only that she did.

Samuraixsithlord

11-28-2007, 05:21 PM

Did the X-men kill any of the Marauders? Are the X-men the only ones who know who has the baby or did Sinister ease drop on Gambit

elixir86

11-28-2007, 05:22 PM

Please someone post an image of Cable and the baby!

Samuraixsithlord

11-28-2007, 05:24 PM

I'm curious, did they explain why they only sent five guys after the Maruaders? I mean, between two teams of X-Men and X-Factor, you'd think they would have committed more muscle to the mission.

Or Since Wolverine is a member of the New Avengers he could have had Strange teleport the team up their when the X-men started to get their butts kicked? Don't tell me Logan doesn't have a nifty Avengers communicator watch

Brian M.

11-28-2007, 05:24 PM

Did the X-men kill any of the Marauders? Are the X-men the only ones who know who has the baby or did Sinister ease drop on Gambit

Well if he knew who had the baby...wouldn't he be searching for said person?

Everyone was back at base and they made no mention of them searching for anyone.

I'd say no.

Samuraixsithlord

11-28-2007, 05:25 PM

Well if he knew who had the baby...wouldn't he be searching for said person?

Everyone was back at base and they made no mention of them searching for anyone.

I'd say no.

Did the X-men kill anyone?

Red Lotus

11-28-2007, 05:28 PM

. Scott's best leadership decisions have mostly come in the very heat of battle and very little in the planning and execution prior.

Just a random thought.

In one of those Nick Fury reports during Secret War. it said some thing just like that. That Scott is a better leader in the heat of the battle.

Sorry random thought over.

Brian M.

11-28-2007, 05:28 PM

Did the X-men kill anyone?

never stated

Red Lotus

11-28-2007, 05:32 PM

mythog

11-28-2007, 05:34 PM

Yea it didn't state that they killed anyone but a lot of people might have been hurt. In my opinion more X-men were hurt then Maruaders.

Faded

11-28-2007, 05:35 PM

I asked SUPREME EDITOR PONTIFF Jim McCann if Monet would appear in the crossover, but his thread @ Jinxworld disappeared. :(

Pro

11-28-2007, 05:35 PM

Or Since Wolverine is a member of the New Avengers he could have had Strange teleport the team up their when the X-men started to get their butts kicked? Don't tell me Logan doesn't have a nifty Avengers communicator watch

Yea but you don't understand Joe Quesada's marvel comics. Sure Wolverine is on Avengers but Joe doesn't want the books to cross over into eachother. He isn't particularly fond of the x-men other than a cashcow for stupid fans who dare like x-men more than avengers. Logan is only on the team because he is a cashcow when it comes to the general public and that's really all Joe is interested in. So Logan being buddies with the sorceror surpreme is conveniently ignored when it comes to storytelling.

BabeBro

11-28-2007, 05:43 PM

Please someone post an image of Cable and the baby!
Just scanned it man. Here you go.
http://i4.tinypic.com/8e9o3fn.jpg

Brian M.

11-28-2007, 05:48 PM

Bad ass. Bad ass.

frog

11-28-2007, 05:48 PM

Just scanned it man. Here you go.
http://i4.tinypic.com/8e9o3fn.jpg

No one had mentioned that Cable repeats that phrase! I'm really interested in what exactly it means now.

Brian M.

11-28-2007, 05:50 PM

No one had mentioned that Cable repeats that phrase! I'm really interested in what exactly it means now.

I'm gonna say that it's kinda like that Doomsday clock...you know where they "countdown" to the end of the world...you heard the phrase something like "10 minutes to midnight"...well "1 minute to dawn" is probably how close they are to a new beginning.

frog

11-28-2007, 05:51 PM

I'm gonna say that it's kinda like that Doomsday clock...you know where they "countdown" to the end of the world...you heard the phrase something like "10 minutes to midnight"...well "1 minute to dawn" is probably how close they are to a new beginning.

Funny that you said that, because that's exactly what I've thought. I'm pretty sure I posted that on Carey's board.

Brian M.

11-28-2007, 05:53 PM

Funny that you said that, because that's exactly what I've thought. I'm pretty sure I posted that on Carey's board.

Yea I think that's been the pretty popular theory.

Anna

11-28-2007, 05:58 PM

So, Gambit was actually warning Cable?

Oh, and Monet >>> than Dazzler, who needs to get lost between dimensions.

elixir86

11-28-2007, 06:04 PM

Actually Monet will show up in New X-Men 45 with Guido, Siryn and Darwin...

frog

11-28-2007, 06:04 PM

So, Gambit was actually warning Cable?

Yes, I definitely believe he was trying to alert Cable to something.

Scipio72002

11-28-2007, 06:14 PM

Where else was the phrase used? Sorry havent been reading the books lately,

Canemacar

11-28-2007, 06:15 PM

In X-men 200 right before Cable "died".

Scipio72002

11-28-2007, 06:17 PM

Did he just say the exact same phrase? I need the trades to come out.

Slant

11-28-2007, 06:17 PM

Did he just say the exact same phrase? I need the trades to come out.

Gambit said it to Cable.

kate-pryde

11-28-2007, 06:19 PM

Just scanned it man. Here you go.
http://i4.tinypic.com/8e9o3fn.jpg

Oooooh, I love that. It so cute!

ProfeZZor X

11-28-2007, 06:20 PM

I pick up my copy in a few minutes... can't wait.

Callisto

11-28-2007, 06:25 PM

so..is cable a pedophile now?.......................
...............................................
............................................

...................and what is up with storm and that walking stick?

creaky

11-28-2007, 06:25 PM

Kuuuurt! :(

Brian M.

11-28-2007, 06:26 PM

Scipio72002

11-28-2007, 06:28 PM

Kurt is on the Uncanny Xmen cover in Feb does that make a difference?

Faded

11-28-2007, 06:28 PM

Oooooh, I love that. It so cute!

Awwwh, it kinda is. Well the gun looks ginormous; I would've opted for pepper spray instead for such a long hike.

BTW, nice avatar (and message)! But what about my Ugly Betty?!?!

CANNOT HANDLE. ;(

Slant

11-28-2007, 06:28 PM

Kurt is on the Uncanny Xmen cover in Feb does that make a difference?

Maybe, but then again the cover to 205 didn't really have anything to do with what happened.

Brian M.

11-28-2007, 06:31 PM

Maybe, but then again the cover to 205 didn't really have anything to do with what happened.

Well it comes after the crossover...

Scipio72002

11-28-2007, 06:33 PM

true,Slant, I hope he does not die. I like him, though havent seen him in anything recently, cause I dont have the Shiar war yet.

Slant

11-28-2007, 06:34 PM

Well it comes after the crossover...

Oh, ok then. I was thinking of the Finch covers for the crossover.

Nevermind then.

Scipio72002

11-28-2007, 06:36 PM

so that leaves Hellion? that seems like a bit of a copout for an "X-Men" death, considering he's a student.

Pach!

11-28-2007, 06:36 PM

No one had mentioned that Cable repeats that phrase! I'm really interested in what exactly it means now.

Where else was the phrase used? Sorry havent been reading the books lately,

Sinister also says it to Exodus in 204 in a way. And he says it like dawn of a new era.

Oh and Brian, Cable and baby are the cover of the next issue.

frog

11-28-2007, 06:36 PM

I don't think Kurt dies - he's to join Hellion in the infirmary with Blindfold. Hellion probably doesn't die for the same reason. It will turn out to be someone else.

claimtosubclaim

11-28-2007, 06:39 PM

Quick inquery. I thought Julian had his teke field up when Deathstrike gutted him. I don't really know much about her. Are her claws immune to telekenesis?

rwsmith

11-28-2007, 06:41 PM

http://i4.tinypic.com/8e9o3fn.jpg

Oh, hell yeah!!! Definitely bad ass. Looks like that is indeed the Cable from X-men #200 (and not some other version of him), as he's wearing the Bachalo-designed costume from Carey's run. Of course, he could always end up being replaced by a different version of himself at some point later on in the crossover (as Marvel keeps hinting). Guess we'll just have to wait and see.

The only weird thing, and it's probably just a coloring error, is that his left arm appears to be flesh and not metal. Like I said, though, probably just a coloring mistake.

elixir86

11-28-2007, 06:42 PM

Oh and Brian, Cable and baby are the cover of the next issue.

You sure? where did u see it?

Scipio72002

11-28-2007, 06:43 PM

This is a little random, is it confirmed the baby is a girl?

Brian M.

11-28-2007, 06:44 PM

You sure? where did u see it?

Freaking awesome.

He probably saw it in the back of this weeks issue.

Pach!

11-28-2007, 06:46 PM

Freaking awesome.

He probably saw it in the back of this weeks issue.

Yeah, I did.

And the variant is the Nezhno/Cyclops one.

creaky

11-28-2007, 06:46 PM

Kurt is on the Uncanny Xmen cover in Feb does that make a difference?

Covers mean nothing. I don't think he's going to bite it, though. I just don't like the idea of those cute little buns being paralyzed for X number of issues due to saving Logan's hairy ones again.

Brian M.

11-28-2007, 06:49 PM

This is a little random, is it confirmed the baby is a girl?

Yes, apprently in the issue it is.

rwsmith

11-28-2007, 06:55 PM

Oh and Brian, Cable and baby are the cover of the next issue.

Is it drawn by Finch!? Anyone got a scan of that (or preferably a link to a large version online)?

I'm thinking new screensaver here.:cool:

Brian M.

11-28-2007, 06:58 PM

Is it drawn by Finch!? Anyone got a scan of that (or preferably a link to a large version online)?

I'm thinking new screensaver here.:cool:

Yea...yea that's gonna be a badass cover.

rwsmith

11-28-2007, 07:00 PM

Who'd have thought that, despite my general dislike of time travel, I'm all of the sudden one of the bigger Cable fans on this board?

Faded

11-28-2007, 07:03 PM

Who'd have thought that, despite my general dislike of time travel, I'm all of the sudden one of the bigger Cable fans on this board?

LOL you've always seemed like one of the bigger fans, even if you didn't like the origin insertion.

Now you're the biggest fan but a lot more content!

Brian M.

11-28-2007, 07:09 PM

Who'd have thought that, despite my general dislike of time travel, I'm all of the sudden one of the bigger Cable fans on this board?

I would like Cable's origin much more if it was just "Cyclops sent him to the future to save him and then he came back when he was older to fight Apoc." But it goes back and forth and back and forth...eh.

Pach!

11-28-2007, 07:11 PM

LOL, I just read Nyss is still waiting for my detailed summary so I'll start typing.

Mitsaso

11-28-2007, 07:13 PM

LOL, I just read Nyss is still waiting for my detailed summary so I'll start typing.

Yup, just write it in this thread and I'll put a link of that post in the opening post of the thread so that guys who only check the first pages will also get a chance at reading your summary!;)

Karl H

11-28-2007, 07:16 PM

Is it me or is Logan's antarctic team more X-men than any X-men team we've seen in years?

Loving it.

Tradewaiting's gonna hurt on this one though.

Brian M.

11-28-2007, 07:17 PM

Is it me or is Logan's antarctic team more X-men than any X-men team we've seen in years?

Loving it.

Tradewaiting's gonna hurt on this one though.

Your dead on. I mean these are the main A-List X-Men we have here. I love it, we get development, actually battle scenes w/ experienced, well known X-Men. I love it.

rwsmith

11-28-2007, 07:19 PM

I would like Cable's origin much more if it was just "Cyclops sent him to the future to save him and then he came back when he was older to fight Apoc." But it goes back and forth and back and forth...eh.

Well, with all of this stuff in the news lately about new discoveries in the field of physics and string theory being very plausible (i.e., multiple universe theory), and thus time travel being theoretically en vogue again (since alternate universes eliminate the major paradox of time travel, which is "How can you change the future without preventing yourself from having come back in the first place?"), I'm starting to soften on my stance on characters from alternate futures.

Just a little bit.;)

Brian M.

11-28-2007, 07:22 PM

Well, with all of this stuff in the news lately about new discoveries in the field of physics and string theory being very plausible (i.e., multiple universe theory), and thus time travel being theoretically en vogue again (since alternate universes eliminate the major paradox of time travel, which is "How can you change the future without preventing yourself from having come back in the first place?"), I'm starting to soften on my stance on characters from alternate futures.

Just a little bit.;)

I just wish we didn't have so damn many time travel futures. I mean you got Bishop, Rachel, Cable...all three of them trying to prevent bad futures...How about 1 Marvel. I'll take Cable.

ClanAskani

11-28-2007, 07:27 PM

Brian M.

11-28-2007, 07:33 PM

I'm loving Cable and the baby. How sweet. Can't wait to get the issue tomorrow, and for next week and Cyke's tough choice when he learns who has the baby. Although, unless Scott learns that Cable plans on harming the baby, what's so difficult? He's gotta trust his son. If it wasn't for Nathan, the baby would have died or been captured by Sinister.

Well he's definetly gonna go after Cable...if not to just talk with him...he thought he was dead, killed by Sinister and the Marauders. If Cable refuses to give the baby over, I say give the X-Men the baby b/c obviously the town in Alaska is gone, then maybe Cyclops decides to do something.

rwsmith

11-28-2007, 07:34 PM

I just wish we didn't have so damn many time travel futures. I mean you got Bishop, Rachel, Cable...all three of them trying to prevent bad futures...How about 1 Marvel. I'll take Cable.

Yeah, but that's the beauty of String Theory. There's an infinite number of alternate universes out there, so the number of alternate futures is limitless. Any event can set an alternate path in motion, such as Cable killing Apocalypse for example. His future where Apocalypse rules will still exist, but now he will have created an alternate universe where Apocalypse does not rule. And there will be a limitless number of alternate universes out there, each with their own past and future states. Thus infinite alternate futures.

The only question that remains is basically this: What do you really accomplish by sending someone back in time to change the future? Since it really can't change, rather it just branches off into an alternate future. The people in that hellish future where Apocalypse rules will still be there regardless of what Cable does in the present. You'd think they would know that in the future (if, in fact, the String Theory is true). :confused:

frog

11-28-2007, 07:42 PM

A few scans have been posted at Scans Daily which made me focus on Layla and Madrox dupe. It turns out that a mutant started the race war in that future but the library records have been altered so that they don't know the name of the mutant, almost as if someone knew they were coming, says Madrox d.

So . . . The mutant that starts the race war - could that be the baby and that be the reason that Cable has her? This doesn't seem to mesh with the "1 minute before dawn" new beginning theory, however.

Sinister did his best to obliterate information about the future. Is he also capable of destroying information in certain futures in anticipation of Layla and Madrox d?

So many questions . . .

Pach!

11-28-2007, 07:45 PM

For Nyss. And I'm just joking about Angel, he's awesome so don't hate me Angel fans.

It starts out in New York, 80 years from now, Jamie and Layla are trying to figure out a way to get into the internment cap. Apparently the library records had been of edited of some important information: who was the mutant that started the race wars.

Back to present time, the X-men decided to face the 102 marauders with 5 of their best. Well sorry, 4 of their best and Angel. Sinister has a bunch of wires connected to his head and tells the X-men that he wasn’t planning on killing the X-men yet, but GAME ON. Storm is trying to sound intimidating I think but she kinda fails and Sinister points out the obvious: How d 4 good X-men and Angel plan to win this? Angel tells Sinister to read his mind and find out, and Sinister realizes he can’t! Emma is giving them backup! BIG SPLASH!

Cut to the mansion. The Sentinel pilot is spying on the X-men and I’m going to interrupt briefly to point out that the ONE apparently hires pedophiles to drive those sentinels. He says that Blonde lady gived him a nosebleed and a headache whenever he tries to spy on girls’ dorms. Like them a little young, huh Slayton? That’s just way creepy. Anyways… back to the important stuff, Bishop is complaining about not being included in the Sinister mission. Apparently he didn’t make it on time because he was doing some investigations of his own. Scott then explains that Emma has been linked to the other 5 X-men protecting them from telepathic attacks.

Back to the Sinister people, Storm throws Vertigo against Scrambler, while Nightcrawler get’s rid of Exodus after punching Rpitide. Meanwhile Colossus is facing Frenzy, Unuscione, Karima and Arclight and well, holding his own. Wolverine then uses Scalphunter’s gun to shoot Random and Tempo and breaking Scalphunter’s arm in the process. Angel then realizes he doesn’t really do much and goes to talk to Sinister and ask for the baby. Meanwhile Gambit runs away from the fight but Logan follows him.

At the purifiers base, Lady deathstrike orders her reavers to be cruel with the kids. Laura warns them to stay away from Hellion. Pixie can’t focus to get the kids away from them. Oh noes! Luckily BFF Anole comes through and tells her to close her eyes and focus. So it works kinda…they all land everywhere! Her wings are shredded once again which is why she screams! (probably also why she goes to the infirmary) Emma tells everyone what happened and Iceman is gonna go get the kids and Rictor (so Rictor is safe), but now she can’t get back to the Marauders. OH SNAP.

Wolverine and Gambit are fighting and Gambit is totally put off by the fact that Wolverine is asking for a baby. Sinister now uses his telepathic attack to take out the X-men. First Angel. Then Colossus, who suddenly stops moving and Frenzy and Unuscione proceed to hit him hard. KLUD KLUD. I guess those Acolytes can hold a grudge. Storm realizes that they no longer have the upper hand and orders a retreat. She gets all UBERGODDESS on us and uses her wind and lighting powers. Karima now throws Angel unconscious body at Wolvie, he catches it but then it turns into Scrambler. And Malice mocks him. “Oh man. The look on your face” And the blasts him completely. That little bait and switch illusion brought to you courtesy of – “Regan Wyngarde, X-man. Retired”. Luckily Nightcrawler ports in and kicks Lady M in the FACE! I guess the X-men hold grudges too. As he’s about to escape with Logan he gets shot! He manages to port but then falls unconscious. Wolverine tells Emma that an X-men took the baby.

Pervy Slayton (the pilot) is feeling kinda sick. He’s getting these strange silver things on his body and suddenly he;s connected by wires to his sentinel. And then we get my favorite panel. Cyclops is there talking and in the window behind… a huge sentinel eye! So Jurassic Park. Awesome, it attacks the mansion, Emma falls and the rest fight Slayton and probably Lex since the other sentinel is the Megaton (the one with the big cannon on his back).

Last part, Cable and the baby.” One minute before dawn kid. We’re doing fine”

Next Week: Cable on the run, A battle at the mansion, and Cyclops unleashes his secret weapon.

Brian M.

11-28-2007, 07:51 PM

Last time a Sentinel attacked the Mansion Cyclops didn't like it on his lawn.

X-Men vs Sentinels drawn by Tan.....:D :D :D

Mitsaso

11-28-2007, 07:57 PM

Aw man Andres, your summary is beter than mine.:(

For Nyss. And I'm just joking about Angel, he's awesome so don't hate me Angel fans.

I loved Angel!
Too bad that stupid network cancelled the show on its prime...!

Aw wait...you don't mean THAT Angel, do you...?:o

frog

11-28-2007, 07:59 PM

Secret weapon = Leviathan.

Pach!

11-28-2007, 07:59 PM

Aw man Andres, your summary is beter than mine.:(

I loved Angel!
Too bad that stupid network cancelled the show on its prime...!

Aw wait...you don't mean THAT Angel, do you...?:o

But the level of sexiness is inferior so I fail. It was just an unsexy comic. I hear next issue the X-men fight the Sentinels naked.

Faded

11-28-2007, 08:04 PM

I didn't read either of your spoiler summaries!!! but I couldn't resist looking for what forced Andres to make his disclaimer. :o

LOL good one!

frog

11-28-2007, 08:24 PM

I hope that Sentinel Pilot Lex manages to break his hostile takeover and survive. I rather like him.

The other pilot, well, I hope he gets what he deserves.

Toboe

11-28-2007, 08:32 PM

I hope that Sentinel Pilot Lex manages to break his hostile takeover and survive. I rather like him.

The other pilot, well, I hope he gets what he deserves.

Yeah, Lex is a cool guy. I couldn't care less for the pedophile, though.

LordEvan88

11-28-2007, 08:52 PM

Why didnt they send Iceman with the rest of the team? I mean, hes the strongest offensively, thats the reason Mystique had to neutralize him, I think the battle would have had a VERY different outcome had he shown up.

Brian M.

11-28-2007, 08:54 PM

Why didn't the X-Men go into Space and get Rachel and Lorna? They are the most powerful according to that Shi'ar scan...the battle would have been much simpler with them.

Pach!

11-28-2007, 08:56 PM

Why don't they all go and leave their injured and the kids alone.

Brian M.

11-28-2007, 09:05 PM

Why don't they all go and leave their injured and the kids alone.

Why doesn't someone wear Julian like a backpack and when someone gets hurt in battle they just run over like a medic and toss Josh on them?

skylight

11-28-2007, 09:15 PM

I noticed no one mentioned Mystique. What happens with her????

streator

11-28-2007, 09:21 PM

Just scanned it man. Here you go.
http://i4.tinypic.com/8e9o3fn.jpg

thanks for the scan. he kind of looks like he's wearing sabretooth's old jacket. probably just a coincidence, but whatever.

Joe Franklin

11-28-2007, 09:25 PM

he kind of looks like he's wearing sabretooth's old jacket.

Sabretooth is dead, so he no longer needs it.;)

Gaveedra 6

11-28-2007, 09:29 PM

Man I just read that whole spoiler because we won't get comics in NYC till tomorrow. I am weak.

I'm glad to hear Colossus does some fighting without getting beat up.

Pach!

11-28-2007, 09:32 PM

Man I just read that whole spoiler because we won't get comics in NYC till tomorrow. I am weak.

I'm glad to hear Colossus does some fighting without getting beat up.

He does get beat up though. And it looked pretty bad.

Gaveedra 6

11-28-2007, 09:34 PM

He does get beat up though. And it looked pretty bad.

Crap. Why does Colossus always get his ass handed to him??

Sentou Ryoku

11-28-2007, 09:39 PM

what, still no Rogue?

mythog

11-28-2007, 09:41 PM

No Rogue at all, I do not even think they mentioned her name in the issue.

Faded

11-28-2007, 10:04 PM

There are some FIERCE scans at scans_daily!

Pixie's hair is all long; Bachalo's Layla is meant to be; Storm is killin' it; and Malice is not playing!

I can't wait. Its already Mike Carey, but the art is killer.

streator

11-28-2007, 10:26 PM

There are some FIERCE scans at scans_daily!

yes, there are.

i'm behind in my reading, unfortunately; when did sinister become a telepath? just in this arc?

Post-It

11-28-2007, 10:33 PM

I wonder whose blood is on Cable's right arm and gun. And since they are walking in the snow I guess we can maybe assume Cable has no TK?

Red Orion

11-29-2007, 12:46 AM

I wonder whose blood is on Cable's right arm and gun. And since they are walking in the snow I guess we can maybe assume Cable has no TK?

The bloods probably from Blockbuster or the Purifiers.

DeniseXfrost

11-29-2007, 02:48 AM

God I'm hating the kids more and more!

steve2275

11-29-2007, 02:56 AM

As of this issue, Angel, Nightcrawler and (mostly) Hellion are the ones who are or might be severely injured, but no death is confirmed yet. There's a chance that one of them might have died by now (so the "an X-Man falls!" info can be technically accurate), but the fact that none of them is confirmed dead makes me think that someone else is gonna bite it.

COLOSSUS fell hard apperently
but i guess he doesnt count huh :evilangry

DeniseXfrost

11-29-2007, 02:59 AM

By the way, I think it's almost official that kitty is the one who bites the dust in AXM...cuz where the hell would she be in the time of crisis?

Mitsaso

11-29-2007, 03:03 AM

COLOSSUS fell hard apperently
but i guess he doesnt count huh :evilangry

He did fall, but nothing serious-looking in my opinion. He was still armored-up when Cargill was hitting him while he was down, so what could go wrong?

worstblogever

11-29-2007, 03:24 AM

He did fall, but nothing serious-looking in my opinion. He was still armored-up when Cargill was hitting him while he was down, so what could go wrong?

For a second, I read that as Colossus went down on Cargill.

Just my dirty mind. Carry on. ;)

steve2275

11-29-2007, 03:45 AM

sinister did a vulcan nerve pinch like move:cool:
shame twas to my brother

worstblogever

11-29-2007, 04:44 AM

Anyone wonder if Cable has an even greater interest in the baby because it has something to do with the other forebearers of the Askani? I'm mostly dismissing the possibility, but the redheaded girl thing made me think about it for a second.

steve2275

11-29-2007, 04:53 AM

red headed stepchild

creaky

11-29-2007, 04:57 AM

Luckily Nightcrawler ports in and kicks Lady M in the FACE!

Now that's poetry. :)

Erik Lehnsherr

11-29-2007, 05:08 AM

I haven't read the spoilers but Carey...the rumors about the Crawler/Exodus situation better not be what the children are making it out to be.

DarthCyclopsRLZ

11-29-2007, 05:12 AM

I haven't read the spoilers but Carey...the rumors about the Crawler/Exodus situation better not be what the children are making it out to be.

It is.

Kurt even has the time to SPEAK. Mandatory "Guten Tag, Herr Exodus" and all.

Erik Lehnsherr

11-29-2007, 05:15 AM

It is.

Kurt even has the time to SPEAK. Mandatory "Guten Tag, Herr Exodus" and all.

Horrible. Absolutely horrible.:rolleyes:

Gaveedra 6

11-29-2007, 06:03 AM

elixir86

11-29-2007, 07:01 AM

Please someone post the cover with cable

Brian M.

11-29-2007, 07:44 AM

Horrible. Absolutely horrible.:rolleyes:

Oh hey and Cable's back too and he has the baby. HA. Guess you were dead wrong on that one too.

Exodus blows.

Brian M.

11-29-2007, 07:45 AM

Anybody consider how Cable's name "Dayspring" is similar to the "One minute before dawn" line? And he seemed to already be familiar with that sentence. Could he be behind alot of what's going on?
Possible Spoiler Theory
What if
Gambit and Sunfire are plants working for Cable?
??

He wasn't familiar w/ it until Gambit uttered it to him. He had his computer run a search on that phrase. I'm guessing Gambit atleast is working/helping w/ Cable...Sunfire I think isn't.

jarrod

11-29-2007, 07:49 AM

It is.

Kurt even has the time to SPEAK. Mandatory "Guten Tag, Herr Exodus" and all.
Maybe the strain from mutliple ports knocks Exodus out? Kurt's used that trick in the past, does the art reflect anything like that?

Pach!

11-29-2007, 07:52 AM

Maybe the strain from mutliple ports knocks Exodus out? Kurt's used that trick in the past, does the art reflect anything like that?

Nope.

He just leaves him in the mountain and quickly comes back.

Pro

11-29-2007, 07:58 AM

Come now, exodus clearly has an sulphur allergy which knocks him out cold for several hours.

Swashbuckler

11-29-2007, 08:04 AM

Come now, exodus clearly has an sulphur allergy which knocks him out cold for several hours.

His powers are also based on his psychological state. Previously when he teleported, if i'm not mistaken, it was when he was servin under his savior Magneto, a feeling that woul dgive him ultimate back-up, confidence, dedication and power. He's supposed to be a menally powered character anyway, removing teleporting isn't that big of a loss for him. Honestly, if he always fought like he did during Bloodties it would be boring because no one would ever be able to beat him. Exodus pretty much does suck. he's a sheep. BAAAAAA.

just another user

11-29-2007, 08:53 AM

Normally I'd be the last person to defend Exodus, byt maybe his 'porting is screwy cos of Emma using her long range powers to mess with the Maurauders?

Nyssane

11-29-2007, 09:58 AM

He did fall, but nothing serious-looking in my opinion. He was still armored-up when Cargill was hitting him while he was down, so what could go wrong?

The resounding KLUD KLUD might be some indication that he's not that well off.

Malice's trickery was awesome, I forgot how conniving that biatch is.

Flameworthy

11-29-2007, 10:04 AM

I wanted to read this issue yesterday, but my shop wasn't going to have it till today, and I don't know if I'll have time to go today.:(

Does Sunfire do anything or speak at all this issue?

streator

11-29-2007, 10:04 AM

Anybody consider how Cable's name "Dayspring" is similar to the "One minute before dawn" line? And he seemed to already be familiar with that sentence. Could he be behind alot of what's going on?
Possible Spoiler Theory
What if
Gambit and Sunfire are plants working for Cable?
??

i've too thought that gambit has had ulterior motives this entire time. it would be cool to see him working with cable.

sunfire, i'm not so sure about. he seemed more level-headed duing blood of apocalypse but since then he's seemed less like himself and more like some cronie.

BabeBro

11-29-2007, 10:06 AM

The issue was wonderful. Carey really knows how to keep a Rogue fan on his toes. There was so much going on. I loved how Malice caught Wolverine off guard. I also loved seeing Logan w/o his powers :eek: Guess he ain't so sexy when his real age shows, LOL. I also have a strong reason to believe the baby is Jean. But who knows with all the wierd stuff happening nowadays. I also think it would've nice to have M in the fight. Then maybe Rogue can accidentally bump into her and BOOM, we have the old Rogue back and bye bye Monet Lil' Miss Perfect :D

Flameworthy

11-29-2007, 10:09 AM

sunfire, i'm not so sure about. he seemed more level-headed duing blood of apocalypse but since then he's seemed less like himself and more like some cronie.

Skrull!!! Bleh, I've been so disappointed in the way Sunfire has been handled lately. Unless he's a double agent or still under Apocalypse's brainwashing, then this is completely out of character for him. He has to way too much honor and pride to be someone's lackey, and least of all a member of group full of cold blooded killers.

BabeBro

11-29-2007, 10:14 AM

frog

11-29-2007, 10:19 AM

I also couldn't help but notice that the team also didn't mention Rogue not once. Not to toot my horn as a Rogue fan, but didn't Wolverine say they were also going to rescue Rogue from Sinister? Just an inquiry because it seemed as though they went to Sinister concerned only on the child. :confused:

Yes, when they first busted into the Maurauder's hangout Wolverine said they had come for Rogue and the baby.

I haven't received my issue yet, so do we know what's happened to Angel? He was concerned about Rogue.

Brian M.

11-29-2007, 10:28 AM

That cover for next weeks issue looks like CnD #18, the HoM issue where Deadpool is holding baby Cable.

BabeBro

11-29-2007, 10:33 AM

Yes, when they first busted into the Maurauder's hangout Wolverine said they had come for Rogue and the baby.

I haven't received my issue yet, so do we know what's happened to Angel? He was concerned about Rogue.
So if they went there for Rogue too, how come they retreated? I mean other then the fact that they would've got their butts handed to them :D

BabeBro

11-29-2007, 10:35 AM

dotdotdot

11-29-2007, 10:58 AM

i think as this story progresses we should pay less attn to vague solicitations from months ago and more on the actual story progress

streator

11-29-2007, 10:59 AM

That cover for next weeks issue looks like CnD #18, the HoM issue where Deadpool is holding baby Cable.

do you have a link to it or a scan?

Brian M.

11-29-2007, 11:01 AM

do you have a link to it or a scan?

I'll scan it later when I'm home.

Speed

11-29-2007, 11:24 AM

Does Sunfire do anything or speak at all this issue? Sunfire flies around all issue and then proceeds to tell Scalphunter he is an imbecile for letting Nightcrawler get away.

An excellent issue. I knew Carey would write this rematch fantastically.
The X-Men's fates are unknown and it is left on a cliffhanger.
Storm does not show that she is scared of Sinister, the Marauders and the Acolytes combined as she takes them all on single handedly at the end.
Colossus is last seen being beaten on by Frenzy (she seems to focus solely on Colossus - perhaps a grudge from the Acolyte days), Unuscione & Sinister. Has Sinister done to Colossus what he did to Cannonball? One touch and Piotr is down and traumatized.
Angel's fate is also unknown as he is seen being thrown telekinetically by Sinister.

Lady Mastermind seems to be the only new Marauder who fits in with the old team.
Sunfire, Random, Tempo & Exodus are very useless during the fight.
Mystique & Gambit don't even bother to join in. Could the 2 be working together for Rogue's sake? I am convinced both have their own agenda and I am intriqued to find out what it is.

What is the liquid that takes over the Sentinels?
Once again, Emma Frost is knocked out 3 seconds into a fight.
I'm concerned where some missing X-Men are. I hope Shadowcat, Hepzibah, Warpath & Darwin appear next issue.
What will also happen to Cannonball & Blindfold?

So many questions. Cable having the baby raises so many more.
Sensational art by Bachalo. He fits layer upon layer of action into the book.

Rogue83

11-29-2007, 11:25 AM

Ok, so I have a theory about this issue and the x-man who dies. It's Storm. Here's why: She's the only real fighting x-man left in a sea of marauders, she is not featured in any of the future solicitations, and she is one of the x-men on the left in the picture from which X-editor Axel Alonso said one would die. Here's the pic in case you forget or never saw it: http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j297/eelgi001/killingfield.jpg

Its called the killing field and was posted in some feature with Axel weeks back leading up the Messiah Complex. He said that when it was all over, a character to the left of the picture would die. We know wolverine doesn't die because he goes on to x-force, i can't see cable "dying again", mystique was never truly an xman and her death wouldnt be that impactful, so that leaves gambit and storm.....which would be a big death for most. All the drama and injuries in this issue make one easily forget Storm is left alone behind unless you go back and read it a few times.

Lastly, my other theory which may be a little far fetched. On the next to last page, we see cable trekking through the snow. In the first panel, there is a rabbit. Call me crazy, but could it be Mystique? She is present in the intial fight but suspiciously absent for the rest. It doesn't explicitly state Cable's location so it could not be far from where the marauders are since both are snowy environments. So this theory might be shaky, but I stand by my Storm theory.....

Thoughts anyone?

Pach!

11-29-2007, 11:26 AM

frog

11-29-2007, 11:28 AM

I still think it may be Bishop that dies.

Speed

11-29-2007, 11:29 AM

Thoughts anyone? I presume the X-Editor is calling our bluff and the death belongs to one of the Madrox dupes.

rZi

11-29-2007, 11:30 AM

Another really enjoyable issue, anyone else think bachalo draws an awesome sinister? The long hair looks awesome to say the least.

Speed

11-29-2007, 11:37 AM

She's the only real fighting x-man left in a sea of marauders, she is not featured in any of the future solicitations Storm, Colossus & Angel are all in the preview for chapter 8.

claimtosubclaim

11-29-2007, 11:37 AM

I know Bachalo has a lot of detractors, but damn, both his X-Men and New X-Men look good here. His Cable design has always been ace as well, and it's a nice continuity nod if Nate is indeed wearing Sabretooth's cloak.

BabeBro

11-29-2007, 11:41 AM

rZi

11-29-2007, 12:08 PM

I really can't see it being storm either. Her fanbase is too huge and although marvel do make some idiotic decissions over the years that seem like "nah...they aren't stupid enough to do that." and then go and do it, i don't think this will be one of them.

Kill off bishop, would anyone really care?

just another user

11-29-2007, 12:10 PM

I presume the X-Editor is calling our bluff and the death belongs to one of the Madrox dupes.

Yeah, one of the Madrox dupes is going to bite it for sure.

Re the character dying being on the left, remember that the original article had the text in the empty space of the picture on the right, so basically everyone in the picture is to the left and therefore vulnerable.

Deal Wit' This

11-29-2007, 12:24 PM

BabeBro

11-29-2007, 12:47 PM

I think # 204 pretty much confirms Gambit is a double agent.

Samuraixsithlord

11-29-2007, 12:55 PM

I just hope Gambit really is a double agent, otherwise I'll be a bit anoyed that he got his butt kicked so badly by Wolvey. I mean he is at about a 40 to 50% win rate with everyone's favorite Canadian. I'm not saying he should have won, just maybe you know put up a fight. lol

Oh well I guess time will tell.

Well he saved Sams life and destroyed the diaries and he told Logan that Cable had the kid and didn't tell Sinister this. So its safe to say that he's looking out for the X-men. He'll probably switch sides during a big battle between the X-men/X-Factor and the Marauders/Acolytes.

podmark

11-29-2007, 01:00 PM

Loved this issue. Great art, lots of action, and a killer reveal (even if half the net already predicted it).

Obviously the X-men weren't going to win a 6 vs 15 fight, but I don't think they were trying to. They were just trying to find out about the baby and then get out of there. If it hadn't been for the New X-men things would have gone as planned.

Also on Exodus, doesn't he need to absorb psychic energy from those around him to use his various powers? Not much of that around in the middle of nowhere. Plus, Exodus has always been inconsistent in fights, plus Emma was messing with him.

Cable with the baby was hawt and Bachelo draws such a nice Pixie! His Rictor didn't really look like Rictor though. Scott's secret weapon is obviously Gentle. And I'm betting Bishop is the one who bites it in the end.

Who took over the Sentinels??

rZi

11-29-2007, 01:01 PM

Well he saved Sams life and destroyed the diaries and he told Logan that Cable had the kid and didn't tell Sinister this. So its safe to say that he's looking out for the X-men. He'll probably switch sides during a big battle between the X-men/X-Factor and the Marauders/Acolytes.

Altough i think your correct i couldn't understand why he attacked cable in #200 (i think?) but maybe he did it as to not kill him...same with the scene with sunfire in it.

Toboe

11-29-2007, 01:21 PM

Bachalo's Rictor didn't really look like Rictor though.

Yeah, Rictor's look has been kinda incosistent during the crossover, mostly because the artists have such different styles. He's always hot, though. But I loke Eaton's version the most.

It' not as bad as the case of the New X-Men, most artists don't seem to care much about them. Just look at the students on the one-shot (X-23(?) in pink!) and the WWH tie-in, here they end up being faceless nobodies...
The uniform thing on X-Factor might be because of the timing, but Hellion changed his look a while ago, you'd think they might notice. Rockslide took long enough...

claimtosubclaim

11-29-2007, 01:34 PM

It' not as bad as the case of the New X-Men, most artists don't seem to care much about them. Just look at the students on the one-shot (X-23(?) in pink!) and the WWH tie-in, here they end up being faceless nobodies...
The uniform thing on X-Factor might be because of the timing, but Hellion changed his look a while ago, you'd think they might notice. Rockslide took long enough...

Yeah, Ramos drew Hellion with really short spiked hair in X-Men 203, and then with extremely long hair in the latest New X-Men, which takes place a week later at the most.

I do like Bachalo's subtle art details, such as having Jamie wear Layla's backpack as if he is chaperoning a child (which he is, I suppose), and Cable wearing the Cloak that Creed left behind on Providence.

Red Lotus

11-29-2007, 01:36 PM

Well he saved Sams life and destroyed the diaries and he told Logan that Cable had the kid and didn't tell Sinister this. So its safe to say that he's looking out for the X-men. He'll probably switch sides during a big battle between the X-men/X-Factor and the Marauders/Acolytes.

It also kind felt like Gambit was surprised that the X-men didn't have the baby. That maybe he thought Cable would have took it to them and that he was caught off guard that he didn't.

DarthCyclopsRLZ

11-29-2007, 01:38 PM

Maybe the strain from mutliple ports knocks Exodus out? Kurt's used that trick in the past, does the art reflect anything like that?

No. Speech was BEFORE the first 'port.

Wll wait 'till I read the complete thing later tonight, but so far, "FIXED!!" seem to sum up the first half of the fight.

And someone *HAS* to tell Kurt that one-liners are meant to be said AFTER taking down a powerhouse. :D

Toboe

11-29-2007, 01:39 PM

Yeah, Ramos drew Hellion with really short spiked hair in X-Men 203, and then with extremely long hair in the latest New X-Men, which takes place a week later at the most.

Eaton did the same on the latest X-Factor. I hope he gets it right for the next one (you know, if he's not dead and stuff...). Or at least get the uniforms right now.

worstblogever

11-29-2007, 01:40 PM

So what do we know about what's going down in the Antarctic?

*Nightcrawler's got a bullet in him, and is in the cold.
*Wolverine's got all sorts of injuries, is temporarily without his healing factor, so he can't heal from them AND has early stage adamantium poisoning... in the snow.
Oh yeah, also somewhere in the snow? Exodus.
*Storm's trying to cover everyone's escape alone. spoiler(and she must do a good job, based off of the chapter 8 preview.)
*Colossus is doing an impression of Rogue on the floor, temporarily mindwiped, while Cargill tries denting him up a bit. spoiler (based of chapter 8 preview, he'll be okay.)*Angel is down, either mentally or physically because of Sinister.B]spoiler[/B] (based of chapter 8 preview, he'll be okay.)
*Rogue is still somewhere in that Marauder base, which Storm might be about to tear up.
*Mystique is mysteriously not around. If that's not conspicuous, I don't know what is.
*Gambit, double agent or not, has three holes in his abdomen.
*Beast, Cyclops, Bishop, Emma, and Bobby have Sentinels to blow the sh*t out of.
*Hellion... ended up falling onto that city street?
*Rockslide got clawed in the belly by Deathstrike, but he can possess any rock he needs to in order to get by.
*Anole got a bit crushed by the Reaver with the wannabe Doc Ock tentacles.
*Pixie's alone in the woods (hopefully Predator X is still somewhere in the Midwest just yet, and not between the capitol and Westchester.)

That about cover the injury report?

DarthCyclopsRLZ

11-29-2007, 01:43 PM

Well he saved Sams life and destroyed the diaries and he told Logan that Cable had the kid and didn't tell Sinister this. So its safe to say that he's looking out for the X-men. He'll probably switch sides during a big battle between the X-men/X-Factor and the Marauders/Acolytes.

I gotta say, If Sin' doesn't start soon NOTICING how badly Gambit sucks as a lackey, I'll be rolling my eye till' the thing's end.

Doesn't make it actually less entertaining, but, come on. :D

DarthCyclopsRLZ

11-29-2007, 01:45 PM

That about cover the injury report?

Good stuff. I'd laugh if the Predator X scenario did play out that way.

BabeBro

11-29-2007, 01:47 PM

It also kind felt like Gambit was surprised that the X-men didn't have the baby. That maybe he thought Cable would have took it to them and that he was caught off guard that he didn't.
Yeah I noticed that too! He replied to Logan like if he was surprised he was even asking about the kid.

worstblogever

11-29-2007, 01:50 PM

Good stuff. I'd laugh if the Predator X scenario did play out that way.

Seems just as likely that he's gonna find Cable, though.

frog

11-29-2007, 01:51 PM

worstblogever

11-29-2007, 01:59 PM

Lots of ouchies. Isn't Predator X in Alaska chasing after Cable and baby?

Hard to tell. He's in snowy woods somewhere. Last time we saw Preddy X, he was in the Rockies. It's likely. I mean, they can't foreshadow Predator X being involved for like... 10 chapters and then just throw him in at the end, do they? He at least should get to hunt established characters twice during this thing. Once for a "WHAT THE F*** WAS THAT!?!" Moment, and twice for, "Oh no, NOT THAT THING AGAIN!" Moment.

Or something. I dunno.

DarthCyclopsRLZ

11-29-2007, 01:59 PM

Seems just as likely that he's gonna find Cable, though.

I'd make the detour to off an actual fairy. F**k the Hunger. Or Fate. Whatever.

frog

11-29-2007, 02:02 PM

I have an idea. We can let Lady Deathstrike battle it out with Predator X.

worstblogever

11-29-2007, 02:04 PM

I'd make the detour to off an actual fairy. F**k the Hunger. Or Fate. Whatever.

Hating on Pixie? Tsk, tsk. I suppose it's just that she's a "love her or hate her" character.

Although... didn't Bachalo's style on her kind of make her look like a Gelfling from "The Dark Crystal"? That was kinda neat.

Red Lotus

11-29-2007, 02:06 PM

Also, in the preview for # 206 it states:

"Layla Miller and Madrox make a startling discovery but their chances of escape appear bleak. The hunt for the baby continues as the casualties mount and a shocking turn of events reveals a traitor!"

Could Cable be the traitor? :confused:

It does feel like this isn't going to end well between Cable and Cyclops.

But what if the traitor isn’t to the x-men. Maybe its Gambit to the Marauders. They called the traitor a wild card. Then after the Marauders get back into the hunt for the baby, the baby falls into the hands of a major player in the conflict, but things aren’t always as they seem. Which is some thing Carey has said about a Gambit.

Callisto

11-29-2007, 02:08 PM

Yea he wants to fuck the baby.

Next retarded question.

it was clearly a joke, don't get your panties in a twist.

BabeBro

11-29-2007, 02:16 PM

It does feel like this isn't going to end well between Cable and Cyclops.

But what if the traitor isn’t to the x-men. Maybe its Gambit to the Marauders. They called the traitor a wild card. Then after the Marauders get back into the hunt for the baby, the baby falls into the hands of a major player in the conflict, but things aren’t always as they seem. Which is some thing Carey has said about a Gambit.
I dunno, I don't think they'd call someone who's doing good, a traitor. They described Lady M, Mystique, and Omega Sentinel in the same way when #200 was described.

Mitteloss

11-29-2007, 02:17 PM

mdg1

11-29-2007, 02:37 PM

Just scanned it man. Here you go.
http://i4.tinypic.com/8e9o3fn.jpg

is it me, or does Cable have two organic arms in that shot?

ExodusCloak

11-29-2007, 02:39 PM

is it me, or does Cable have two organic arms in that shot?

I can't see the other hand but he looks like he's just wearing a glove on his right hand.

mdg1

11-29-2007, 02:44 PM

I can't see the other hand but he looks like he's just wearing a glove on his right hand.

Exactly... so where are his T-O parts?

Faded

11-29-2007, 02:46 PM

I made avatars for anyone who wants them in anticipation for tomorrow, when I (hopefully) can pick up the issue.

We R. Venom

11-29-2007, 02:46 PM

His left arm definitely looks like it's his own organic. It is fleshy, his elbow that can be seen anyway. But who knows. This issue was insanely great. I knew the New X-men would screw the operation somehow. All the X-men teams are in chaos right now too. The art was fantastic and this book keeps getting better. Gambit might be working two sides. Mystique disappeared and I still have no clue about the Sentinels.

Another thing. I thought Pixie was cool. But she is no where near hardcore and doesn't belong on any team right now.

ExodusCloak

11-29-2007, 02:48 PM

Exactly... so where are his T-O parts?

Maybe it's a different Cable from one of those futures Madrox and Layla are visiting? Which would mean that our Cable did technically die. :confused:

ProfeZZor X

11-29-2007, 02:51 PM

Sorry if it's already been posted in this thread, but has it been revealed what the little girls powers are?

ProfeZZor X

11-29-2007, 02:57 PM

is it me, or does Cable have two organic arms in that shot?

If you're referring to that glimmer of white, towards the shoulder area, that's the "Captain America" star he has on his outfit. It was there when he first arrive at the mansion, and more prominent when he interrogated Sabertooth.

Though looking closely at the picture, it looks like the virus has subsided, because the flesh on his left arm/elbow is visible.

worstblogever

11-29-2007, 02:58 PM

I made avatars for anyone who wants them in anticipation for tomorrow, when I (hopefully) can pick up the issue.

Don't suppose you can get one of the Pixie that looks like a Gelfling?

streator

11-29-2007, 02:58 PM

cable has been able to hide his t-o parts in the past.

here, however, i think it is just a coloring mistake.

ExodusCloak

11-29-2007, 02:58 PM

If you're referring to that glimmer of white, towards the shoulder area, that's the "Captain America" star he has on his outfit. It was there when he first arrive at the mansion, and more prominent when he interrogated Sabertooth.

Though looking closely at the picture, it looks like the virus has subsided, because the flesh on his left arm/elbow is visible.

Oh wait, you know that silver stuff that takes over the Sentinels? Could that have something to do with Cables techno-organic virus?

worstblogever

11-29-2007, 03:02 PM

Sorry if it's already been posted in this thread, but has it been revealed what the little girls powers are?

No. Although, as a fellow Iceman fan, I hoped you'd be on to answer a thought I had... would it have been hilarious to have the former team prankster pick up the kids after this excursion? Picture that lecture on the way back...

"No style. No imagination. And what's worse, you got your *sses handed to you! In my day, we'd head out for the night, hook up with lady friends from Coffee (seriously, this chick Zelda was so fine) head into the city to stop a robbery, tease a fellow hero by freezing Spider-Man's spandex to his butt, and be back in Westchester and in bed by sunrise, and the world's greatest telepath wouldn't know! You guys suck! Pshht. Stupid kids these days."

Faded

11-29-2007, 03:16 PM

Don't suppose you can get one of the Pixie that looks like a Gelfling?

I don't know what a Gelfing is, but are you talking about this one?

Boogie

11-29-2007, 03:23 PM

I don't know what a Gelfing is, but are you talking about this one?

Faded thats awesome!
I was gonna make one of that when i found a scan of that panel!

Kid Icarus

11-29-2007, 03:26 PM

On the next week section- Anyone think the secret weapon is Nezhno? Doesn't he have something like extreme strength? Seeing the variant cover, there's got to be a good reason he's there. He could help alot in destroying sentinels.
I just assumed he was going to fight the sentinels.
because he has his super strength thing going for him.
but I could see cyclops as using him.

worstblogever

11-29-2007, 03:31 PM

I don't know what a Gelfing is, but are you talking about this one?

This is why you're getting more votes than anyone for X-Poster of the month, you realize.

Erik Lehnsherr

11-29-2007, 03:35 PM

So I got around to reading X-Men #205 a few minutes ago...Nightcrawler seems to be finished, Gambit looks like he got stabbed but I guess he didn't(with Bachalo's art, who knows), Exodus(likely most powerful mutant on the planet depending on Wanda's status was teleported out), Emma Frost can stop Sinister's telepathy?(WTF?!), Wolverine gets punked out in the end, Storm's fate is yet to known, and the worst part of it all...that joke came back on the last page. Good action but what a horrible development.

Red Lotus

11-29-2007, 03:36 PM

This is why you're getting more votes than anyone for X-Poster of the month, you realize.

No its Blackmail. She has pictures that a lot of people don't want to get out.

Erik Lehnsherr

11-29-2007, 03:41 PM

His powers are also based on his psychological state. Previously when he teleported, if i'm not mistaken, it was when he was servin under his savior Magneto, a feeling that woul dgive him ultimate back-up, confidence, dedication and power. He's supposed to be a menally powered character anyway, removing teleporting isn't that big of a loss for him. Honestly, if he always fought like he did during Bloodties it would be boring because no one would ever be able to beat him. Exodus pretty much does suck. he's a sheep. BAAAAAA.

The whole theme of the X-Men(Cable, Jean, Cyclops) are that they are sheep and you're condemning someone who takes action like Exodus? Yeah right. And you have NO IDEA how his powers work..you're completely confusing him with Shiar Imperial Guard Gladiator.

ProfeZZor X

11-29-2007, 03:46 PM

No. Although, as a fellow Iceman fan, I hoped you'd be on to answer a thought I had... would it have been hilarious to have the former team prankster pick up the kids after this excursion? Picture that lecture on the way back...

"No style. No imagination. And what's worse, you got your *sses handed to you! In my day, we'd head out for the night, hook up with lady friends from Coffee (seriously, this chick Zelda was so fine) head into the city to stop a robbery, tease a fellow hero by freezing Spider-Man's spandex to his butt, and be back in Westchester and in bed by sunrise, and the world's greatest telepath wouldn't know! You guys suck! Pshht. Stupid kids these days."

I'd love for him to make a guest appearance in New X-Men as a continuation of #205 when they're all being transported by him.

Speed

11-29-2007, 03:52 PM

The whole theme of the X-Men(Cable, Jean, Cyclops) are that they are sheep and you're condemning someone who takes action like Exodus? Yeah right. And you have NO IDEA how his powers work..you're completely confusing him with Shiar Imperial Guard Gladiator. You WILL accept the fact that Nightcrawler defeated Exodus.
In the past, Exodus has lost miserably more than once.
His powers are deeply unstable and you can't guarantee that a powerhouse is going to win every fight.

Exodus has shown a few displays of outstanding power but overall his track record in fights is nowhere near Sinisters.

Pro

11-29-2007, 03:55 PM

And you have NO IDEA how his powers work..

Obviously neither do you because Nightcrawler owned him by teleporting him onto a snowy mountain. Bhahahahaha! Stoopid Exodus, so much for being able to hold off the avengers, the x-men and the militairy forces of genosha.

Erik Lehnsherr

11-29-2007, 03:57 PM

You WILL accept the fact that Nightcrawler defeated Exodus.
In the past, Exodus has lost miserably more than once.
His powers are deeply unstable and you can't guarantee that a powerhouse is going to win every fight.

Exodus has shown a few displays of outstanding power but overall his track record in fights is nowhere near Sinisters.

Defeat him? He got teleported away so the X-Men didn't get squashed in two panels. I mean..some SERIOUS punk outs are coming. It's only going to get more hilarious. Exodus has lost miserably in the past? The Austen book and that Uncanny annual? If he lost so bad, why isn' the in prison for his terrorist crimes? Come on...it doesn't work and it will never work.

Deeply unstable? When did Exodus' name change to Cyclops or Chamber? And Exodus in Bloodties is a bigger display than anyone in this crossover. The one thing Sinister does have on him is he outsmarted Nate Grey with ease.

Obviously neither do you because Nightcrawler owned him by teleporting him onto a snowy mountain. Bhahahahaha! Stoopid Exodus, so much for being able to hold off the avengers, the x-men and the militairy forces of genosha.

There's a term for this and the Rumblers' would, of course, agree...P I S + C I S=X-Men #205 goofiness.