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Victorious

11-27-2007, 08:22 PM

so apparently there a a few x-men who seems indestructibles....

Iceman; able to reconstitute his ice-form if any part of it is damaged or even if it is completely shattered.

Wolverine; he can heal himself even if he is reduced to bones, and X-23 probably too.

Rockslide; psychic entity able to re-form himself from solid matter aroudn him.

Mercury; permanent liquid metal form, she doesn't need to breath or eat to sirvive, and can loose parts of her body. her only weakness is electricity.

so what do you think about them, should they have some kind of weakness or became least powerfull?

Novaya Havoc

11-27-2007, 08:26 PM

Dazzler! Her interaction with Lila Cheney rubbed off the greaseball's cockroach-like ability to NEVER DIE and so she now cannot as well.

worstblogever

11-27-2007, 08:32 PM

Professor X, like in X3, can just transfer his consciousness to another body. Chuck's impossible to kill.

Joe Franklin

11-27-2007, 08:37 PM

Magneto.

He's been killed more times then Wolverine, and he keeps coming back.

Slyfer

11-27-2007, 09:13 PM

maybe mags is a skrull

Nyssane

11-27-2007, 09:24 PM

Frenzy. hawhaw

Kage Kisaragi

11-27-2007, 10:03 PM

Dust in her Sand form seems pretty much indestructable.

worstblogever

11-28-2007, 03:24 AM

Dust in her Sand form seems pretty much indestructable.

What if somebody uses a heat power, (Johnny Storm, Sunfire) and gets her hot enough to turn her into solid glass, though?

worstblogever

11-28-2007, 04:03 AM

Dead Girl from X-Statix?

Jean/Phoenix.

Stix

11-28-2007, 05:31 AM

Cannonball. Isn't he immortal or something like that? In early X-Force... I just can't remember the full story, but apparently he can't die.

Omega Alpha

11-28-2007, 05:52 AM

Cannonball. Isn't he immortal or something like that? In early X-Force... I just can't remember the full story, but apparently he can't die.

No, he can. Not only this has been retconned, but he already had died before, so it was non-sense even at the time.

Knaves

11-28-2007, 06:22 AM

Does Rockslide even have internal organs? Can he even be harmed physically?

Dizzy D

11-28-2007, 06:31 AM

Mercury; permanent liquid metal form, she doesn't need to breath or eat to sirvive, and can loose parts of her body. her only weakness is electricity.

She probably would also be vulnerable to chemicals that react with mercury and extreme heat or cold.

Slyfer

11-28-2007, 06:37 AM

What if somebody uses a heat power, (Johnny Storm, Sunfire) and gets her hot enough to turn her into solid glass, though?

Craaaaaaaaaaack

rZi

11-28-2007, 07:40 AM

Wolverine being burnt to a skelenton....was this ever explained? I assumed he needed some flesh to grow back from...but there was nothing left yet he grew back? huh?!

Magneto X

11-28-2007, 07:50 AM

Wolverine being burnt to a skelenton....was this ever explained? I assumed he needed some flesh to grow back from...but there was nothing left yet he grew back? huh?!

They said the adamantium skull protected his brain from the explosion and he grew back from that. I say that's ridiculous. Even if he could grow back from his brain alone (maybe he also fell into a protein soup) his skull is full of holes for his eyes, nose, mouth, and neck.

Does Rockslide even have internal organs? Can he even be harmed physically?

No. He's a psychic entity that takes control of whatever earth is around.

Mercury goes haywire with electricity. Presumably an acid would take her out completely.

Shouldn't Elixir's healing factor be better than anyones?

The Lucky One

11-28-2007, 07:50 AM

No, he can. Not only this has been retconned, but he already had died before, so it was non-sense even at the time.

Plus he's got one glaring weakness: the lawyers of whoever owns the Highlander copyright.

-D

ProfeZZor X

11-28-2007, 07:52 AM

Wolverine being burnt to a skelenton....was this ever explained? I assumed he needed some flesh to grow back from...but there was nothing left yet he grew back? huh?!

All you need is Mags to do a Wolverine #75 on him again, bring in Sabertooth and let him go at it with the runt, then have Scrambler come in and give the little Bub some loving from behind.... And Wolvie is screwed in more ways than one.

Kage Kisaragi

11-28-2007, 07:53 AM

What if somebody uses a heat power, (Johnny Storm, Sunfire) and gets her hot enough to turn her into solid glass, though?

while it could happen its still her, so unless the writers wanna be anal I don't think she should be considered dead, beaten maybe but not dead. Now she'll be the new Shard.. lol as in shards of glass. Then she could be even deadlier, she could grained herself up into glass particles and do the same thing she did with sand but in this case she'll be crystal clear.

rZi

11-28-2007, 07:53 AM

They said the adamantium skull protected his brain from the explosion and he grew back from that. I say that's ridiculous. Even if he could grow back from his brain alone (maybe he also fell into a protein soup) his skull is full of holes for his eyes, nose, mouth, and neck.

Yeah i had that theory but then ditched it for the reason that the flames from nitro's explosion would go in through the eye sockets and fry his brain leaving him with nothing....bad move loeb!

ProfeZZor X

11-28-2007, 07:56 AM

Apparently, a single bullet can kill a lot of the X-Men if gone untreated for an extended period of time.

Gaveedra 6

11-28-2007, 10:15 AM

while it could happen its still her, so unless the writers wanna be anal I don't think she should be considered dead, beaten maybe but not dead. Now she'll be the new Shard.. lol as in shards of glass. Then she could be even deadlier, she could grained herself up into glass particles and do the same thing she did with sand but in this case she'll be crystal clear.
That would actually be kind of awesome if she extended part of her sand cloud through fire and it turned to shards of glass. Kyle/Yost, are you guys reading this??

Psylocke seems unable to die. But that's just Cleremont.

Magneto X

11-28-2007, 10:17 AM

That would actually be kind of awesome if she extended part of her sand cloud through fire and it turned to shards of glass. Kyle/Yost, are you guys reading this??

Psylocke seems unable to die. But that's just Cleremont.

Actually, her brother bringing her back to life is about the most reasonable return to life I've seen in comics in quite a while. She has a brother who can do that kind of stuff. And he did.

Funny thing is she had no friends who missed he enough willing to ask him to do it sooner.

worstblogever

11-28-2007, 10:19 AM

That would actually be kind of awesome if she extended part of her sand cloud through fire and it turned to shards of glass. Kyle/Yost, are you guys reading this??

Psylocke seems unable to die. But that's just Cleremont.

Actually, the heated to glass thing wasn't my idea for a character. Dr. Octopus once did it to Sandman in a Sinister Six story because he was trying to betray Ock (Sandman was trying to go straight, prior to the story). Sandman just turned into sentient glass man, and tore Doc Ock up with his jagged edged body.

Still an awesome visual and idea that should get lifted. It's been like 20 years.

protogarrett

11-28-2007, 11:12 AM

Dead-Girl. Squirrel Girl.
End of discussion.

Come To Deathstrike

11-28-2007, 05:10 PM

Um.
C'mon.

Mr Immortal.

Betcha all feel silly for not mentioning HIM now.:D

Kage Kisaragi

11-28-2007, 05:28 PM

Um.
C'mon.

Mr Immortal.

Betcha all feel silly for not mentioning HIM now.:D

? He's not a X-Men though is he? I mean if he's a mutant and was a X-Men then my bad and I do feel silly for not mentioning him but I remember Great Lake Avengers, and Great Lack Champions or some such but they were the GL X-Men to?

Dizzy D

11-28-2007, 05:33 PM

? He's not a X-Men though is he? I mean if he's a mutant and was a X-Men then my bad and I do feel silly for not mentioning him but I remember Great Lake Avengers, and Great Lack Champions or some such but they were the GL X-Men to?

They have been about the Great Lakes everything by now. But they indeed were the GLX for a short time.

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Kage Kisaragi

11-28-2007, 05:37 PM

Well I be damned. ^_^

Sure Mr Immortal, and I feel silly for not mentioning him. :)

Dizzy D

11-28-2007, 05:58 PM

Well I be damned. ^_^

Sure Mr Immortal, and I feel silly for not mentioning him. :)

Anything to post pics of Bertha in Emma's costume.

Gaveedra 6

11-28-2007, 09:45 PM

Anole can probably be considered pretty indestructable now. Not as much as, say Mercury, but re-growing a whole arm puts him in the Wolvie league of regenerators.

Frodo-X

11-28-2007, 10:21 PM

Yeah i had that theory but then ditched it for the reason that the flames from nitro's explosion would go in through the eye sockets and fry his brain leaving him with nothing....bad move loeb!
Actually, it was Guggenheim that wrote that. And it was a good arc.

Loeb wrote the horrible arc that followed.

I still think it was simply meant to look cool, and they didn't expect everyone to overthink it. But, this is comics. On the internet. Overthinking is standard.

ProfeZZor X

11-29-2007, 12:11 AM

Anole can probably be considered pretty indestructable now. Not as much as, say Mercury, but re-growing a whole arm puts him in the Wolvie league of regenerators.

Throw him in a vat of acid and see if he recovers.... I doubt it.

DeniseXfrost

11-29-2007, 02:08 AM

They have been about the Great Lakes everything by now. But they indeed were the GLX for a short time.

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/9729/glxtz7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
OMG! That's Emma's custome. It's a crime!

Gaveedra 6

11-29-2007, 05:00 AM

Throw him in a vat of acid and see if he recovers.... I doubt it.

Well, in theory, that would also kill off Mercury, Wolverine, and possibly any of the "indestructables" who isn't actually psychic like Rockslide or Chamber.

Daithi

11-29-2007, 05:18 AM

Rachel. She has actually died of old age as the Mother Askani but was still alive as a psychic. She was Cable's Obi Wan.

Kid Kyoto

11-29-2007, 05:31 AM

Well, in theory, that would also kill off Mercury, Wolverine, and possibly any of the "indestructables" who isn't actually psychic like Rockslide or Chamber.

I wonder what would happen if a jammer like leach hit a bodiless mutant like Rockslide.

I guess they'd die.

Gaveedra 6

11-29-2007, 05:55 AM

I wonder what would happen if a jammer like leach hit a bodiless mutant like Rockslide.

I guess they'd die.

I don't think it's been established if Leech can even make "contact" with a psychic projection. His power's based on physical proximity. If, say, Xavier's astral form was walking near Leech, Xavier could remain unaffected. Same could go for Rockslide. (or else he's f'd)

Stix

11-29-2007, 06:11 AM

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/9729/glxtz7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Did they have their own book? I always assumed it was just a running joke with Deadpool.

Pro

11-29-2007, 06:35 AM

he already had died before, so it was non-sense even at the time.

Given that he's still around that's a pretty weak arguement :). Most immortals can die, just not permanently.

Wolverine being burnt to a skeleton....was this ever explained? I assumed he needed some flesh to grow back from...but there was nothing left yet he grew back? huh?!

That is being adressed currently i think in some storyline about Wolverine's soul being bound to some afterlife entity, haven't read it myself. Basically he can always return as long as he wins some afterlife struggle.

Does Rockslide even have internal organs? Can he even be harmed physically?

Given that he can self-explode without any ill effects and that he creates his physical form from any rocks nearby it seems he can only be temporarily disabled unless a psychic attack prevents him from doing so.

Professor X, like in X3, can just transfer his consciousness to another body. Chuck's impossible to kill.

Yea but he is also a moral person, i doubt he'd take a body just to survive unless that body was, like the one in the movie, empty. Which is pretty rare and even then morally questionable.

Magneto.

He's been killed more times then Wolverine, and he keeps coming back.

I thought Xorn's line was dead on target when acting as magneto:"Maybe it's my secondary mutation"

Iceman; able to reconstitute his ice-form if any part of it is damaged or even if it is completely shattered.

I wonder though if even Iceman can survive absolute zero temperature. His power is based on affecting from the air but at absolute zero i think molecules stop moving entirely. The faster molecules move the warmer an object made up from them, the slower the colder so what if Iceman is dumped into an absolute zero enviroment? Technically he should at least be immobilised.

Also what happens if he runs into someone who can turn water molecules into another material such as rock? Alchemy could kill Iceman i think or at least permanently disable him.

Apocalypse seems pretty unkillable, even after losing his hostbody and getting his soul destroyed by Cable Psimitar he still returns. I think it was explained that even if a single molecule remains of him he can still return. Which is odd given that he hasn't had his original body in a while from what i recall. He burns out his hostbodies after a while.

Proteus seemed pretty much unkillable, even after being destroyed by Collosus he returned only to be united with another reality manipulator after which the two disappeared i think. The story isn't fresh in my mind anymore though.

Pro

11-29-2007, 06:40 AM

I'd buy a great lakes x-men comic series ..

Swashbuckler

11-29-2007, 07:36 AM

Rachel. She has actually died of old age as the Mother Askani but was still alive as a psychic. She was Cable's Obi Wan.

I hope she's not indestructible.

Kage Kisaragi

11-29-2007, 08:49 AM

I wonder what would happen if a jammer like leach hit a bodiless mutant like Rockslide.

I guess they'd die.

I also perceived Leech's power as suppressing not taking away, or removing. Infact in my opinion it would only make normal a person such as chamber or Rockslide. This could be bad for someone like Chamber who would normally have only half a face and chest should his power be suppressed which would then lead to trauma and death to his body. Rockslide on the other hand is a little different, where would the a entity go? Location wise would assume it'd be in the same spot but would be properly function as it normally does and thus be disconnected from its normal functions.

Also have they clearly defined the difference between a psychic entity and a soul? ... I suppose in a way yes, they have said that Xavier or Emma can communicate with the dead but isn't it ironic that mediums claim a good portion of psychic power?

Kage Kisaragi

11-29-2007, 08:50 AM

I hope she's not indestructible.

Probably not, but I'm sure she became "Far more stronger than you could ever imagine."

Phil Hunn

11-29-2007, 03:10 PM

OMG! That's Emma's custome. It's a crime!

It was a fashion eyesore even when Frost was gluing it to her boobs, so seeing Big Bertha bastardise doesn't bother me.

I'd buy a great lakes x-men comic series ..

Me too. Although Squirrel Girl would quickly turn into that title's version of Phoenix.

Dizzy D

11-29-2007, 03:13 PM

I'd buy a great lakes x-men comic series ..

I like the yearly/seasonly mini-series/one-shot format for them. A monthly would need a really good writer to keep it good and funny.

We R. Venom

11-29-2007, 03:14 PM

Shouldn't Rockslide be able to Psychically add bigger material to his body to grow? Or is his strength a factor i how much material he can take?

Mr. Earl Brooks

12-02-2007, 09:44 AM

What about Darwin? I know he's missing or something, but he seems fairly indestructible to me.

Magneto X

12-02-2007, 02:14 PM

What about Darwin? I know he's missing or something, but he seems fairly indestructible to me.

He's the most invulnerable of all. Even something that would destroy Proteus or Shadow King he'd probably adapt to.

Disgruntled1

12-02-2007, 06:56 PM

Wolverine; he can heal himself even if he is reduced to bones, and X-23 probably too.Doubt X-23 could do it. Wolverine has the benefit of an indestructible adamantium frame as a base to grow back from. X-23 only has adamantium claws. If the rest of her skeleton hits an acid bath or is reduced to cinders she wouldn't have the same base to utilize.
Throw him in a vat of acid and see if he recovers.... I doubt it.Well, in theory, that would also kill off Mercury, Wolverine, and possibly any of the "indestructables" who isn't actually psychic like Rockslide or Chamber.Not Wolverine apparantly.

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That is being adressed currently i think in some storyline about Wolverine's soul being bound to some afterlife entity, haven't read it myself. Basically he can always return as long as he wins some afterlife struggle.I read that as Wolverine's soul/Consciousness goes to limbo when his brain is badly damaged to wait for his body to repair itself. Originally he didn't need to fight the Angel of Death to resurect himself. Lazaer just uses the opportunity of Logan's soul temporarily being trapped in limbo (awaiting physical healing) to ambush him when he's most vulnerable in an attempt to kill him for good.

Callisto

12-02-2007, 09:16 PM

while it could happen its still her, so unless the writers wanna be anal I don't think she should be considered dead, beaten maybe but not dead. Now she'll be the new Shard.. lol as in shards of glass. Then she could be even deadlier, she could grained herself up into glass particles and do the same thing she did with sand but in this case she'll be crystal clear.

damn....could you say OUCH to any of her future opponents in that form.

Post-It

12-03-2007, 01:16 AM

I dunno if he counts anymore but Mr. M. was pretty much almost god-like before his powers were short circuited and he was clipped.

Also does anyone know the extent of Angels healing abilities?

MugenSC

12-04-2007, 06:19 PM

ZNOP

12-04-2007, 07:27 PM

I guess my question is... has Wolverine ever tried to slice him with his adamantium claws, causing Colossus to open up his metal skin?

You answered your own question. If Riptide can puncture Peter's armored form then Logan would make scalloped steel out of him.

Kage Kisaragi

12-04-2007, 07:28 PM

MugenSC

12-04-2007, 07:39 PM

not in 616 to my knowledge but in a virtual simulation in the ultimate universe he did indeed prove he could harm colossus.

Ah yea, I remember the Ultimate scene. And I think in a one-on-one training session between the two, Wolverine slashed him but nothing serious happened... I think. I haven't seen or read that issue in a while.

I'm definitely curious though for the 616 version.

rwsmith

12-04-2007, 08:59 PM

Dust, Iceman and Rockslide are probably the most indestructible, though each can be taken out in different ways. Dust by water (like Sandman) and Iceman by extreme heat. Not sure about Santo, but I'm pretty sure that having the Sentry throw him into the sun would do it.:)

ZNOP

12-04-2007, 09:14 PM

Nyssane

12-04-2007, 09:19 PM

You answered your own question. If Riptide can puncture Peter's armored form then Logan would make scalloped steel out of him.

Not to mention adamantium was enough to cut up Frenzy's steel-hard skin which is probably as durable as Colossus's steel form.

ZNOP

12-04-2007, 09:38 PM

Not to mention adamantium was enough to cut up Frenzy's steel-hard skin which is probably as durable as Colossus's steel form.

Well, as someone has already stated. Adamantium can cut thrugh almost anything.

Wikipedia says:

"Wolverine's entire skeleton, including his claws, is molecularly infused with adamantium, rendering it practically indestructible. Due to the adamantium coating, the claws can cut almost any known solid material. The only known exceptions are adamantium itself and Captain America's shield, which is the only substance in the Marvel Universe known to be even more durable than adamantium."

Kage Kisaragi

12-04-2007, 09:59 PM

Wolverines cutting feats make no sense to me. Sure adamantitum is unbreakable, but his strength doesn't strike me as being strong enough even with a unbreakable blade to cut through 5 inch steel or titanium.. it seems rather silly. I mean you can take a strong man like a pro wrestler and give him a sharp titanium axe but I doubt he's cutting through a great oak tree with one stroke.

ZNOP

12-05-2007, 04:11 AM

Well according to most bio sources, Logan can lift 800 lbs. And, when you take in consideration the laws of Physics... It's not that unbelievable. Adamantium coated, beyond razor-sharp bone claws can cut thru almost anything. IE. If a penny dropped from the Empire State Building can go thru a bus and straight down to subway level then you have to believe:)

Kage Kisaragi

12-05-2007, 11:51 AM

ZNOP

12-05-2007, 02:57 PM

Kage Kisaragi? These are comics... Why is so hard to suspend belief? If you apply reality -- you take away from the fantasy. Here, take a puff of this. It might help:)

The Lucky One

12-05-2007, 03:05 PM

Kage Kisaragi

12-05-2007, 03:59 PM

Kage Kisaragi? These are comics... Why is so hard to suspend belief? If you apply reality -- you take away from the fantasy. Here, take a puff of this. It might help:)

No you're absolutely right.. it's just that I hate Wolverine and I'll stop at nothing to discredit him if at all possible. :D

protogarrett

12-05-2007, 04:21 PM

Super powered donkey punches. The only way to take out an indestructible mutant.

Quick, someone call Gladiator...

ZNOP

12-05-2007, 05:18 PM

...except that that's an urban legend. Doesn't actually happen. ;)

-D

Shhhh:evilsmile You must be somewhere in Jersey:)

No you're absolutely right.. it's just that I hate Wolverine and I'll stop at nothing to discredit him if at all possible. :D

Fair enough. I, hate Emma Frost for twat blocking Jean(Madelyne) Grey/Summers.

Disgruntled1

12-09-2007, 05:54 PM

Sorry if this was discussed already, but what about Colossus?
I know X-Cutioner opened him up when they fought, and Hulk bent his arms (Or broke?) while in his armored form. (Didn't Pete Wisdom do something with his hot knives ability?) Riptide also managed to get through his skin with his power. I guess my question is... has Wolverine ever tried to slice him with his adamantium claws, causing Colossus to open up his metal skin?Pete Wisdom shoved a hotknife through Colossus' spine. Moira had to use a specially made medical machine to superheat Colossus' metal spine so she could remold his spine.

In 616 the only time Wolverine's claws hit Colossus was in an annual and I think it said he scarred the metal with his swipe. More recently in New X-Men - X-23 cut off one of the Predator X's heads no problem. Another Predator X then bit into Colossus' arm. Colossus yelled out in pain, and later the arm was shown to still be bothering him. That would seem to indicate to me at least that Colossus' organic steel would not hold up well to adamantium claws.
Wolverines cutting feats make no sense to me. Sure adamantitum is unbreakable, but his strength doesn't strike me as being strong enough even with a unbreakable blade to cut through 5 inch steel or titanium.Well regardless he can, he has been able to since the 80's, and it's a comic. Comics dont have to make sense. How does Captain America throw a shield through a car or a plane? At least Wolverine's weapon is stated to be unique in that it can cut through anything. What's Cap's excuse?

Alphaxman

12-09-2007, 06:42 PM

So is Bobby a psychic being as well who happen to be about to make any form of H2o into organic material? I mean he could have his finger cut off and the rest of his body vaporized all you would have to do is put him around enough water for him to freeze and “BAM” instant Bobby Drake.

I do think that Santo can form more rock around his psychic form and probably could be as big as “It” the Living Colossus.

MugenSC

12-09-2007, 07:56 PM

Pete Wisdom shoved a hotknife through Colossus' spine. Moira had to use a specially made medical machine to superheat Colossus' metal spine so she could remold his spine.

In 616 the only time Wolverine's claws hit Colossus was in an annual and I think it said he scarred the metal with his swipe. More recently in New X-Men - X-23 cut off one of the Predator X's heads no problem. Another Predator X then bit into Colossus' arm. Colossus yelled out in pain, and later the arm was shown to still be bothering him. That would seem to indicate to me at least that Colossus' organic steel would not hold up well to adamantium claws.
Well regardless he can, he has been able to since the 80's, and it's a comic. Comics dont have to make sense. How does Captain America throw a shield through a car or a plane? At least Wolverine's weapon is stated to be unique in that it can cut through anything. What's Cap's excuse?

Thanks, this helped greatly because these things happened, so now I know.
Much appreciated :)

XYagentguy

12-09-2007, 08:17 PM

The only known exceptions are adamantium itself and Captain America's shield, which is the only substance in the Marvel Universe known to be even more durable than adamantium
Is this material ever named?
IE. If a penny dropped from the Empire State Building can go thru a bus and straight down to subway level then you have to believe
They debunked this myth on Myth Busters. The Penny won't even be falling at a fast enough velocity to kill someone. It won't penetrate bone. They even shot the penny at MUCH higher velocities than gravity and it still wouldn't kill someone so I also seriously doubt it's going through the pavement to the trains. ;)

Shadowbrat

12-09-2007, 08:37 PM

I don't think it's been established if Leech can even make "contact" with a psychic projection. His power's based on physical proximity. If, say, Xavier's astral form was walking near Leech, Xavier could remain unaffected. Same could go for Rockslide. (or else he's f'd)

Granted, but his Rocks would fall off until Leech walks out of range.

Dust, Iceman and Rockslide are probably the most indestructible, though each can be taken out in different ways. Dust by water (like Sandman) and Iceman by extreme heat. Not sure about Santo, but I'm pretty sure that having the Sentry throw him into the sun would do it.:)

To be fair, I think that Rockslide would "Jump Ship" before he hit the sun.

ZNOP

12-09-2007, 08:42 PM

Is this material ever named?

They debunked this myth on Myth Busters. The Penny won't even be falling at a fast enough velocity to kill someone. It won't penetrate bone. They even shot the penny at MUCH higher velocities than gravity and it still wouldn't kill someone so I also seriously doubt it's going through the pavement to the trains. ;)

Really??? Myth Busters huh? I saw the episode. If you did as well then you would know that there was no test subject. In other words no one stood there and waited for a penny to hit them in the head. And, while I doubt you would come all the way to NYC (If your not here already) to attempt such a stunt. I'll tell you this. The mere attempt to toss even a penny off of the Empire State Building WILL get you arrested. Yes, even a penny. But I digress... I've decided to switch objects. A penny was a bad example. How about a marblel? Back to comics.

Good reading material. http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/K-12/airplane/ffall.html