X-POSITION Week 27: Christopher Yost & Craig Kyle [Archive]

Brian M.

11-27-2007, 05:56 PM

When selecting the team members, what qualities did you look for? It's interesting that none of these characters have been on a team together previously.

YOST: One of the great things about the crossover was that members from the different groups were being thrown together. The team serves a very specific purpose in the crossover: find the baby. But as the story progresses, their purpose becomes more lethal: find the baby, no matter what.

Claw Squad, Lupine Avengers - we've heard it all, but the four characters really do have very different personalities, and those differences will come out more and more in the series. And...those four characters are not the final roster of the team.

I just wanna go on record saying that I coined that phrase WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY before X-Force. But I'm honored it was mentioned.

I shoulda freaking tried to copyright or trademarked or pattened that name...damnit.

frog

11-27-2007, 06:01 PM

frog

11-27-2007, 06:05 PM

Okay, one last question. I've gotten a ton of e-mail from readers asking why there was no "New X-Men" in Marvel's February solicits. Can you comment on this? Maybe X-editor Nick Lowe can help you out!

NICK LOWE: There's certainly a reason why "New X-Men" wasn't solicited in February. There are casualties to "Messiah CompleX." Keep reading to find out what those causalities are. Also, and I'm just going to throw this out there, just because you read or see something in solicits, doesn't mean it's 100% what's going to print.

Oh my.

It could be that the title continues but anything printed in a solicit would have too many spoilers.

worstblogever

11-27-2007, 06:05 PM

I just wanna go on record saying that I coined that phrase WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY before X-Force. But I'm honored it was mentioned.

I shoulda freaking tried to copyright or trademarked or pattened that name...damnit.

Yeah, I guess my Team Scratch & Sniff didn't catch on as well. This round to you, Brian.

I'm digging Bachalo's Sinister. I'm liking the fight, it's honestly smart the way they're fighting the Marauders. Although, shouldn't Exodus be able to teleport right back?

CmX

11-27-2007, 06:07 PM

It could be that the title continues but anything printed in a solicit would have too many spoilers.

I dunno it still doesn't make sense. The title should still be solicited for shops and what not who will be ordering though right? Unless the book is on hiatus for the summer or something. I hope to God it isn't relaunched yet again.

Either way whenever solicits are far too spoiler heavy, Marvel usually just puts a "classified" straight across and blacks out the covers.

Brian M.

11-27-2007, 06:08 PM

Yeah, I guess my Team Scratch & Sniff didn't catch on as well. This round to you, Brian.

I'm digging Bachalo's Sinister. I'm liking the fight, it's honestly smart the way they're fighting the Marauders. Although, shouldn't Exodus be able to teleport right back?

Just wait until I get to review the issue...I'll use Lupine Avengers so many times Marvel will have to change the name.

Maybe he does...we only see a little.

Brian M.

11-27-2007, 06:08 PM

I dunno it still doesn't make sense. The title should still be solicited for shops and what not who will be ordering though right? Unless the book is on hiatus for the summer or something. I hope to God it isn't relaunched yet again.

Either way whenever solicits are far too spoiler heavy, Marvel usually just puts a "classified" straight across and blacks out the covers.

Why not take the word of the writers. Just wait and see for once.

frog

11-27-2007, 06:09 PM

Whatever the plan was, it certainly gave Sinister pause.

claimtosubclaim

11-27-2007, 06:10 PM

Damn, Warren is talking a huge game to Sinister. Hopefully there's actually some bite to his bark. Also, looks like Peter is doing just fine taking on half the Marauders.

Pach!

11-27-2007, 06:10 PM

Various LOLs during the interview.

I'm really excited for X-force! <3

And am now officially worried for New X-men . :(

caney

11-27-2007, 06:11 PM

YOST: I think it was a genuine thing. They could die at any moment. Why not? And I'd like to see them hook up in every Marvel book. Just somewhere in the background, like Spider-Man swings by and there they are.

LOL! Elixir and Loa making out in the background of the Marvel U. I love it!

caney

11-27-2007, 06:13 PM

The last answer in the interview was very interesting. I wonder if Marvel will have some misleading solicits for the X-books kind of like DC did with Flash.

podmark

11-27-2007, 06:13 PM

I'd give anything to have Bachelo draw New X-Men his work is just breathtaking.

And Julian's still alive! ....for now.

As I expected they dodged the solicit question. And I'm more certain than ever that it's not over. It might be changing somehow but there'll still be a book about the kids.

frog

11-27-2007, 06:14 PM

YOST: No bones about it, Surge is making a mistake. She's a teenager. But this mistake will change her and her team forever.

KYLE: They're teenagers and they're acting like teenagers. You also have to remember the last time they didn't listen to the X-Men they defeated Nimrod and saved Forge's life. Unfortunately, you don't always win when you take these kinds of emotional risks. Although, I'm with Surge on this one.

I was a little surprised that Kyle says he's with Surge - to me it looked like a classic case of "fools rush in" when she took her team to the Purifiers. I understand why she wants to do it, but I still think it was much too rash.

Brian M.

11-27-2007, 06:15 PM

That New X-Men future question was a lot better than what they said when asked about CnD.

"Is Cable and Deadpool cancelled?"

"Yes."

That's all we got.

Pach!

11-27-2007, 06:16 PM

Red Lotus

11-27-2007, 06:17 PM

205 looks so good.

They are doing a great job of selling me on X-force. When I first saw the team I said there would be no way I would get the book, but every time the talk about it I want it more and more.

NICK LOWE: There's certainly a reason why "New X-Men" wasn't solicited in February. There are casualties to "Messiah CompleX." Keep reading to find out what those causalities are. Also, and I'm just going to throw this out there, just because you read or see something in solicits, doesn't mean it's 100% what's going to print.[/I]

Wow I said the same thing.

frog

11-27-2007, 06:17 PM

It is though, however if you lost 45 of your best friends who wouldn't do the same?

I'd be scared of losing more of them! :eek:

frog

11-27-2007, 06:19 PM

So who besides me is now just about convinced David is on the road to hell?

Pach!

11-27-2007, 06:21 PM

I'd be scared of losing more of them! :eek:

I think that has to do with the fact that you are a more mature person than the New X-men who are ~15 year olds.

podmark

11-27-2007, 06:22 PM

That New X-Men future question was a lot better than what they said when asked about CnD.

"Is Cable and Deadpool cancelled?"

"Yes."

That's all we got.

If New X-men is gone I'd have prefered a straight answer. If it's changing or soemthing I don't mind the vagueness.

Brian M.

11-27-2007, 06:23 PM

If New X-men is gone I'd have prefered a straight answer. If it's changing or soemthing I don't mind the vagueness.

It's changing. Leave it at that.

Omega Alpha

11-27-2007, 06:23 PM

X-Men #205 looks awesome.

And Lupine Avengers FTW!

Boogie

11-27-2007, 06:24 PM

LOL! Elixir and Loa making out in the background of the Marvel U. I love it!

Kind of like a where's waldo of mutant teens macking each other. Awesome.

claimtosubclaim

11-27-2007, 06:32 PM

I guess it's Emma who is blocking Sinister's telepathy. Still, would've been more badass if it turned out that she was also psi-cloaking Iceman, Monet, Siryn and Kitty.

frog

11-27-2007, 06:38 PM

"As mentioned in our last edition, there was no time to gather questions from our dear readers due to the Thanksgiving holiday in America. However, I did my best to ask those things which I though you would want to know. Also, I was able to sneak in one question that I received in abundance from you folks. And what was that question? Read on to find out...."

Are we X-Boarders the problem children of CBR?

rilokyle

11-27-2007, 06:48 PM

I just wanna go on record saying that I coined that phrase WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY before X-Force. But I'm honored it was mentioned.

I shoulda freaking tried to copyright or trademarked or pattened that name...damnit.

LOL I loved that they mentioned that. I remember joking about the Lupine Avengers during that dreadful Wolverine arc by Jeph Loeb- good times.

CmX

11-27-2007, 06:50 PM

Why not take the word of the writers. Just wait and see for once.

Sorry I was trying to converse with another poster and we were throwing around ideas and speculations.

Omega Alpha

11-27-2007, 06:51 PM

Oh, and one thing that I thought it was interesting:

YOST: Wolverine is the team leader. And he's not particularly happy about it, and the dynamic between him and Cyclops (who is very much part of the book) will be fun to play, almost a reversal of their roles.

Scott will get his revenge after 30 years? Finally! This should be fun. :)

CmX

11-27-2007, 06:52 PM

The last answer in the interview was very interesting. I wonder if Marvel will have some misleading solicits for the X-books kind of like DC did with Flash.

It would be interesting if the team was transplanted over into Legacy.

Who knows!

DeniseXfrost

11-27-2007, 06:53 PM

I guess it's Emma who is blocking Sinister's telepathy.
I thought the same thing as well when I saw her buddha hand gesture.

Woo Kurt teleports Exodus? lol

Toboe

11-27-2007, 06:59 PM

I'm really getting interested in X-Force now. I can't wait for the new dynamics with Wolverine and Cyclops, and Wolverine as leader is gonna be so aeesome. I'm curious as to why Wolfsbane leaves X-Factor to join this team in which she doesn't belong.

All this vague hints about New X-Men's future are making me impatient. But I guess if they're not as direct about cancellation as with Cable & Deadpool maybe the book is just going through some changes instead.

I heart Bachala drawing the kids. Laura standing up for Julian was neat.

WhitehotRoom

11-27-2007, 07:11 PM

KYLE: This series' stories are broken up into complex six-issue arcs that will build to a much large saga over the next couple of years. Everything that happens in this run happens for a reason. Also, many events and characters that affected our previous series will follow our heroes into this new journey…none of which makes their lives any better.

This stuck out most. Even if we do get some sort of New New X-men title it looks like Yost and Kyle may not be a part of it.

The Jeeper 2.0

11-27-2007, 07:16 PM

It's nice to have something to look forward to every Wednesday! This x-over looks to be a winner so far!

CaptainCanada

11-27-2007, 07:19 PM

Laura appears to think that Julian's name has an "e" in it.

podmark

11-27-2007, 07:21 PM

Laura appears to think that Julian's name has an "e" in it.

lol I was just going to mention that!

MarvelGirlBoy

11-27-2007, 07:21 PM

Urk.

That was a very good X-Force sell, considering the flimsy concept I've been shown so far. I wanna see Wolverine struggle. It might actually turn him into a half-decent character again. I am so glad that they know that Wolfsbane doesn't belong on the team, and that just makes me want her to stay on it now.

X-Men 205 looks hot, though I'm not sure I'm quite buying Storm's overly technical dialogue mid-fight. Angel vs. Sinister / Wolverine vs. Gambit, and everything there featuring Emma, looks sexy, though.

So who besides me is now just about convinced David is on the road to hell?

podmark had it down, I'm impressed.

KYLE: This series' stories are broken up into complex six-issue arcs that will build to a much large saga over the next couple of years. Everything that happens in this run happens for a reason. Also, many events and characters that affected our previous series will follow our heroes into this new journey…none of which makes their lives any better.

This stuck out most. Even if we do get some sort of New New X-men title it looks like Yost and Kyle may not be a part of it.

Yeah I saw that. Plus:

"I like to think the uniforms showed they were united and committed to the X-Men, no matter what. After all, they'd lost so much, this is them taking control of their destinies."

That past tense, for me, seems very fatalistic. "Disassembled" indeed.

Well it seems that Elixir is surviving the crossover, too (LOL... Loa and Elixir need their own Manga miniseries). Damnit, I have a very small collection of mutants I didn't mind getting Reaver-pasted, and all of them seem to be coming out of this.

Erik Lehnsherr

11-27-2007, 07:23 PM

Warren is gonna get embarassed by Sinister. There is no one in that crowd that can protect him. Wolverine is on how many books a month now with this X-Force crap coming to light? Disgusting. And I wanted to see a convo between Storm and Exodus..oh well.

Knaves

11-27-2007, 07:24 PM

I loved seeing Pixie hiding behind Cessily and Surge during the fight, that little detail was very cool to see.

rwsmith

11-27-2007, 07:41 PM

I just wanna go on record saying that I coined that phrase WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY before X-Force. But I'm honored it was mentioned.

I shoulda freaking tried to copyright or trademarked or pattened that name...damnit.

Yes!!! I loved the Lupine Avengers mention, even if you were trying to screw with me when you came up with it.

Other than that, this was obviously my favorite part of the interview:

Can you say who is leading X-Force yet? Wolverine has been a field leader before, but typically he has never been the one to lead a team. Is he the de facto leader? Or is he taking his marching orders from someone else?

YOST: Wolverine is the team leader. And he's not particularly happy about it, and the dynamic between him and Cyclops (who is very much part of the book) will be fun to play, almost a reversal of their roles.

KYLE: Well, Chris blew my surprise but yeah, it's Logan. He's great for this role because he doesn't want it, at least not in the way it's given to him. Forcing Wolverine to lead such a conflicted group of X-Men puts him in situations he's spent most of his life avoiding. I think people will like how Logan handles his new role and how the team handles him in return.

:D :D :D

Joe Franklin

11-27-2007, 07:46 PM

X-Force is going to be awesome thanks to the writing team of Kyle & Yost.:cool:

I think this interview almost confirms that the New X-Men kids who survive Messiah Complex will be appearing in Carey's Legacies book.

Brian M.

11-27-2007, 07:48 PM

Yes!!! I loved the Lupine Avengers mention, even if you were trying to screw with me when you came up with it.

Other than that, this was obviously my favorite part of the interview:

:D :D :D

Aw come on...I thought we got over that...:rolleyes:

fitditz

11-27-2007, 07:52 PM

I as well think that the New X-Men that survive MC will form the group of X-Men Legacies.

rwsmith

11-27-2007, 07:52 PM

Aw come on...I thought we got over that...:rolleyes:

Of course we did. I actually thought it was pretty funny. You had me going on and on about how the whole Lupine concept wasn't all that bad, and I even came up with some ways that a decent writer might be able to make sense of some of it (e.g., canines and felines sharing a common ancestor and whatnot). It took me awhile to realize that you were just encouraging my lunatic postings for your own amusement, you S.O.B.;)

On another note, Marvel's still being pretty sparse with the Cable details. I guess we'll have to wait until he actually shows up in this crossover before they'll start talking about him and his role post-Messiah Complex, huh?

GoingGreen

11-27-2007, 07:52 PM

I see J. Scott Campbell seems to hold the Pam Anderson vibe for Emma's looks high. And whats up with Pixie's d-cup?

Like the preview, though. And yeah, as I've been saying all along, maybe they aren't soliciting New X-Men for February so they don't give ANYTHING away. I don't think it's cancelled.

If it is cancelled, I'm sure all that 'growing up' Yost and Kyle keep referring to probably means most of the kids will find homes with the big league X-Men.

... Or they'll just all die.

Brian M.

11-27-2007, 07:54 PM

Of course we did. I actually thought it was pretty funny. You had me going on and on about how the whole Lupine concept wasn't all that bad, and I even came up with some ways that a decent writer might be able to make sense of some of it (e.g., canines and felines sharing a common ancestor and whatnot). It took me awhile to realize that you were just encouraging my lunatic postings for your own amusement, you S.O.B.;)

On another note, Marvel's still being pretty sparse with the Cable details. I guess we'll have to wait until he actually shows up in this crossover before they'll start talking about him and his role post-Messiah Complex, huh?

By you taking it serious you actually made me like it.

rwsmith

11-27-2007, 07:55 PM

I have that way about me, my friend.

Samuraixsithlord

11-27-2007, 08:01 PM

Any one want some spoilers? I don't know much but i do know a few things

GoingGreen

11-27-2007, 08:03 PM

Boooo! Come back with full/real spoilers. Trash.

Jay kay.

For what issue?

Samuraixsithlord

11-27-2007, 08:05 PM

for X-men #205. You want em or not?

ToxicTeen

11-27-2007, 08:06 PM

for X-men #205. You want em or not?

I do! Gimme some spoilers! :D

GoingGreen

11-27-2007, 08:11 PM

Yes, I'd like spoilers.

PS: Just because I'd like them doesn't mean I want them. I hate temptations.

Samuraixsithlord

11-27-2007, 08:18 PM

ok, they're not to detailed, i just flipped through it at my local comic shop but here goes

with Emma's help the X-men are able to gain the upper hand on the marauders. But Emma senses that the New X-men are in danger from Lady D and the Reavers, so she shifts her astral form away from the battle. Archangel gets hurt pretty bad by Scrambler and Colossus gets his mind wiped by Sinister. Wolverine catches up with a fleeing Gambit who doesn't join the fight. After Logan guts the backstabbing cajun, he tells logan who has the baby. Storm produces a whirlwind and carries everyone to safety.

and the person who has the kid, is the Skrull Emporer from The Illumanti series who's shapeshifted into Professor X

nah just kidding its Cable

ToxicTeen

11-27-2007, 08:27 PM

All this vague hints about New X-Men's future are making me impatient.

Me too. It doesn't feel right to leave us hanging when Chris and Craig kept on saying they had a couple of stories they wanted to do.

I mean how much longer till I find out what happens Wither? (Sorry in advance if it looks I'm whining again...:o

Brian M.

11-27-2007, 08:28 PM

Me too. It doesn't feel right to leave us hanging when Chris and Craig kept on saying they had a couple of stories they wanted to do.

I mean how much longer till I find out what happens Wither? (Sorry in advance if it looks I'm whining again...:o

You already know what your getting for Christmas don't you?

MarvelGirlBoy

11-27-2007, 08:31 PM

Me too. It doesn't feel right to leave us hanging when Chris and Craig kept on saying they had a couple of stories they wanted to do.

I mean how much longer till I find out what happens Wither? (Sorry in advance if it looks I'm whining again...:o

Maybe Wither is in for an X-Force holiday visit to keep Selene in check.

skylight

11-27-2007, 08:35 PM

Toboe

11-27-2007, 08:45 PM

Spoilers sound good (damn it, and here I wanted to stay spoiler-free...)

So Colossus gets his mind wiped so people won't bitch about seeing his reaction to Kitty's death on Astonishing which hasn't happened yet but, sadly, everything indicates it will? It's supposed to fit before Messiah Complex after all...

Samuraixsithlord

11-27-2007, 08:46 PM

what happens to rogue, the new x-men?????

Rogue's still with the Marauders i think, as for the New X-men Hellions not doing to good. Like said i just flipped through it and read the parts about Gambit and the battle between the Marauders and X-men.

For all you Gambit fans out there looks like he's a good guy, he's doesn't take part in the battle and it looks like he wanted to lure and X-men away so he could tell them who had the baby. Its just that that X-man happened to be Wolverine who gutted him pretty good before he could metaphoricly spill his guts

Samuraixsithlord

11-27-2007, 08:49 PM

Toboe

11-27-2007, 08:51 PM

I guess he was the X-man to "Fall" and Kitty can't be dead she was in #202? which happened like a week before this issue

Like that's ever stopped Marvel... they could still squeeze Astonishing between Blided by the Light and Messiah Complex, where she's been conveniently absent to far.

I'm sort of glad no one really died, but instead got mind wiped or whatever...

Swashbuckler

11-27-2007, 08:51 PM

I really hope the kids get slaughtered. like 6 or 7 will remain. And Frost will once agian realize that she SUCKS AT RAISING THE NEXT GENERATION OF MUTANTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. Stupid slut. Die frost! Die!!!

Sorry.........

Anyway, I am looking foward to X-Force and I am very EXCITED about the next issue of Messiah Complex!

Samuraixsithlord

11-27-2007, 08:53 PM

They don't need to be killing off anymore New X-men. They've finally got a good team going.

Toboe

11-27-2007, 08:54 PM

They don't need to be killing off anymore New X-men. They've finally got a good team going.

Agree on that. The team's awesome right now, but they really need to get rid of all the incredible angst. Just no more effing deaths.

I could do without Onyxx, though.

mythog

11-27-2007, 09:02 PM

Just a question is Gambit dead or just hurt

Samuraixsithlord

11-27-2007, 09:04 PM

Just a question is Gambit dead or just hurt

Logan messes him up pretty good but he's still alive, he's just hurt alot.

skylight

11-27-2007, 09:06 PM

Rogue's still with the Marauders i think, as for the New X-men Hellions not doing to good. Like said i just flipped through it and read the parts about Gambit and the battle between the Marauders and X-men.

For all you Gambit fans out there looks like he's a good guy, he's doesn't take part in the battle and it looks like he wanted to lure and X-men away so he could tell them who had the baby. Its just that that X-man happened to be Wolverine who gutted him pretty good before he could metaphoricly spill his guts
How did Gambit know that Cable had the baby?

firstfallen

11-27-2007, 09:08 PM

How did Gambit know that Cable had the baby?

Ah, this is where you start wondering if they are working together in some way.;)

Slyfer

11-27-2007, 09:10 PM

i hope Cable doesn't have the baby

Samuraixsithlord

11-27-2007, 09:10 PM

How did Gambit know that Cable had the baby?

I don't know. but Gambit did tip Cable off to its birth (when he asked him to look up "one minute before dawn" and Since he knows the x-men are looking for it and the purifiers don't have it, he just assumes Cable got their first.

Pach!

11-27-2007, 09:12 PM

Joe Franklin

11-27-2007, 09:15 PM

i hope Cable doesn't have the baby

Cable is a man, and men can't have babies silly.:D

Samuraixsithlord

11-27-2007, 09:16 PM

Actually

In the one shot Karima says that the baby is not alone and the Marauders head towards the baby (except Blockbuster), later Emma says that there was a battle right there in the maternity ward. So the Marauders faced Cable and Cable somehow escaped.

hmm it could be that the Marauders got their to late, and the Purifiers caught up to thme afterwards and had a fight when the baby was gone.

Samuraixsithlord

11-27-2007, 09:17 PM

it looks like the betrayel that the X-men faced is Cable taking the kid

Pach!

11-27-2007, 09:18 PM

hmm it could be that the Marauders got their to late, and the Purifiers caught up to thme afterwards and had a fight when the baby was gone.

If Gambit were in some type of plan with Cable I don't think he would tell Sinister, and based on how he reacts when Angel asks for the baby, I'm pretty sure Sinister knows.

Samuraixsithlord

11-27-2007, 09:19 PM

if someone else had read the issue more completely and posyed some spoilers to fill in the gaps in my memory, that would be great

Samuraixsithlord

11-27-2007, 09:23 PM

If Gambit were in some type of plan with Cable I don't think he would tell Sinister, and based on how he reacts when Angel asks for the baby, I'm pretty sure Sinister knows.

He seemed to be acting like Angel was an idiot for thinking that he had the baby. plus he didn't act like he knew who had the kid in #204 and #203 when he was going after the diaries and probing Rogues head

Nyssane

11-27-2007, 09:27 PM

Aww, poor Tempo gets shot. :( If it means Random getting shot, too, so be it! :D

XYagentguy

11-27-2007, 09:27 PM

Claw Squad, Lupine Avengers - we've heard it all, but the four characters really do have very different personalities, and those differences will come out more and more in the series. And...those four characters are not the final roster of the team.

Omg why has no one mentioned this!!

Now I'm even more excited knowing for a fact there will be more to the team!!

Brian M.

11-27-2007, 09:28 PM

Omg why has no one mentioned this!!

Now I'm even more excited knowing for a fact there will be more to the team!!

Beacuse it's been mentioned before but folks just feel like complaining and ignore the stuff that doesn't support their arguement...sorry arguement suggests there was rational thought...their bitchfest.

steve2275

11-27-2007, 09:33 PM

Also, looks like Peter is doing just fine taking on half the Marauders.
hes the ladies man
course those arnt ladys in any sense of the word:p

Nyssane

11-27-2007, 09:44 PM

hes the ladies man
course those arnt ladys in any sense of the word:p

Just wait til you see what they do to him later. ;)

Brian M.

11-27-2007, 09:46 PM

Just wait til you see what they do to him later. ;)

Frenzy's gonna fauke him in the azz.

CyberHubbs

11-27-2007, 09:48 PM

Kitty needs to pop up and go Jewish Ninja on some of them, "That's MY MAN!" As she plucks Frenzy's heart out of her chest.

Samuraixsithlord

11-27-2007, 09:50 PM

Frenzy's gonna fauke him in the azz.

he's kicks their asses until Sinister mind wipes him, then they pwn him. But how hard is it to beat up an invalid

Agent_Torpor

11-27-2007, 09:50 PM

Whoa, Campbell's variant cover is sooooo much better than Finch's cover.

steve2275

11-27-2007, 09:51 PM

Just wait til you see what they do to him later. ;)

didnt sinister just blow his mind
so it cant be that

Nyssane

11-27-2007, 09:52 PM

he's kicks their asses until Sinister mind wipes him, then they pwn him. But how hard is it to beat up an invalid

Kicks their asses is stretching it, morelike holds his own. They don't get bruised at all in the battle.

Samuraixsithlord

11-27-2007, 09:53 PM

Kicks their asses is stretching it, morelike holds his own. They don't get bruised at all in the battle.

have you read the issue to? Did i miss anything?

Brian M.

11-27-2007, 09:53 PM

he's kicks their asses until Sinister mind wipes him, then they pwn him. But how hard is it to beat up an invalid

Yea no I literally meant fauke him in the azz.

Nyssane

11-27-2007, 09:54 PM

have you read the issue to? Did i miss anything?

Andres spoiled me.

Samuraixsithlord

11-27-2007, 09:57 PM

Andres spoiled me.

so was i pretty accurate. I just flipped through it.

I got a question did it show Cable with the kid, or a flashback of him taking the kid in Alaska. I've been racking my brain over this detail.

claimtosubclaim

11-27-2007, 10:41 PM

Kicks their asses is stretching it, morelike holds his own. They don't get bruised at all in the battle.

Well, it's not like it was a fair fight. At one point, he's fighting 5 of them at the same time. I think in general though, most artists don't show bruising on characters in a serious battle unless it fits the dialogue of the scene. I mean, at the end of X-Men 203, Cannonball is sitting in the X-jet after having been beaten and blasting through several walls, and he looks unbruised, but in 204, he's all f*cked up from that battle.

JHowlett8

11-27-2007, 11:34 PM

When this is all said and done, I think Cyclops is a skrull...

chickrockguitar

11-28-2007, 04:13 AM

Oo. Okay. So I'm think, NXM - Relaunch?

ToxicTeen

11-28-2007, 07:07 AM

Oo. Okay. So I'm think, NXM - Relaunch?

I certainly hope so. :o

frog

11-28-2007, 07:23 AM

I'm inclined to think there will be a New X-Men relaunch. There ought to be something unless Marvel is planning on replacing my subscription with X-Force.

RoguishGurl

11-28-2007, 08:43 AM

There better be a relaunch! and Laura protecting Julian created a warm feeling in my heart. :D

just another user

11-28-2007, 08:45 AM

Thae fact that the final X Force line up isn't revealed could suugest that some of the New X Men kids end up in this title.

After all, the original New Mutants changed into X Force, so it could happen again.

Either way, I'm fully expecting most of these characters to still be around, minus maybe a few casualties.

streator

11-28-2007, 09:33 AM

it still sounds like nxm is ending to me.

x-force is sounding better. i like wolverine leading the team.

bachalo's preview art looks nice.

Anna

11-28-2007, 09:53 AM

Swashbuckler

11-28-2007, 10:17 AM

sitting on my face? Hot!!

I really just want the X-Men to feel like the stakes are higher here. And Emma really shouldn't be running things.

Grunty

11-28-2007, 10:20 AM

With New X-men getting canceled and the remaining kids being most likely devided between the titles i beginn to see black for Marrow joining X-factor or another team in the near future.
I am not a negativ thinking type of person but i'm quite a realistic thinking one. Each of the still alive kids has cooler powers and a better (or cleaner) backround than her. With that its pretty clear that each of the kids will be prefered over my beloved bone thrower anytime.

Well at least i am happy for the New X-men reader that those who survive will most likely not end up in limbo (or at least totaly).

joelopez101

11-28-2007, 10:35 AM

So no New X-Men listed in the Feb solicits, but what do we find instead:

X-MEN: LEGACY #208
Written by MIKE CAREY
Penciled by SCOT EATON
Cover by DAVID FINCH
"LEGACY"
CLASSIFIED UNTIL THE END OF MESSIAH COMPLEX.
32 PGS./Rated A…$2.99

w/ a cover preview by David Finch featuring the original X-Men: http://media.comics.ign.com/articles/836/836737/img_5079272.html

You ask me, you couple this title change (the addition of "Legacy to the title would seem perfect for a book about young mutants following in the footsteps of their elders) and the disappearance of the New X-Men from the solicits, and then you consider that rumors have been running rampant about the cancellation of the adjectiveless X-Men title for a while now. The clincher is Nick Lowe's comment: "There's certainly a reason why "New X-Men" wasn't solicited in February. Also, and I'm just going to throw this out there, just because you read or see something in solicits, doesn't mean it's 100% what's going to print."

So, maybe Marvel had Finch do up a fake cover to throw us off? This has been done before. Certainly, X-Men: Legacy won't feature the original team as we already have X-Men: First Class around. The only thing that would suck would be that, if the creators listed in the solicits are true, it would seem Carey is the new writer of the New X-Men cast, and Kyle & Yost have moved to X-Force. Anyhow, that's my theory.

fitditz

11-28-2007, 05:07 PM

These are my thoughts:

"Legacy" is being thrown into the equation meaning that something that is being passed down or continued. I think that Xavier is going to "bite the dust" and the remaining original members (Cyke, Beast, Iceman and Angel....there was a reason why they brought him back, as well as Emma Frost who will take the place of the absent Jean) are going to take over and maintain what Xavier started. The (remaining) New X-Men will either leave or be a part of this Legacy group.

For Uncanny X-Men, all members who do not make up the Legacy group, Astonishing X-Men or X-Force will be "dumped" into this Uncanny group (X-Factor will get 2 new members but I do not forsee those 2 individuals as being major X-players). This is not necessarily a bad thing as you'll have a number of good players such as Storm, Nightcrawler, Rogue, (Gambit and Northstar???), and perhaps the return of Havok, Polaris an Marvel Girl.

That's just my thought...there are also a hell lotta characters sitting in limbo right now who they should use so who knows?:eek:

Pro

11-28-2007, 05:11 PM

I think that Xavier is going to "bite the dust"

I can't really see them giving xavier his legs back, repowering him, returning him to earth and having him shown to be kinda useless to the team he raised just to kill him off. It would be the most pathetic and pointless moment in time to kill him.

Toboe

11-28-2007, 05:13 PM

I really loved that idea of the original X-Men taking over the school and keeping Xavier's dream alive.

Except they banished him from the place.

CaptainCanada

11-28-2007, 05:38 PM

So, maybe Marvel had Finch do up a fake cover to throw us off?
It's one half of a wraparound (see how the details on the right-hand side all go off-panel); the question is what's on the other half?

Omega Alpha

11-28-2007, 06:46 PM

Xavier is safe until the end of Secret Invasion. Then, I think he dies in the end of the next X-men event.

Joe Franklin

11-28-2007, 06:51 PM

It's one half of a wraparound (see how the details on the right-hand side all go off-panel); the question is what's on the other half?

The New X-Men kids who survive Messiah Complex are on the other half of the cover.

Omega Alpha

11-28-2007, 06:53 PM

The New X-Men kids who survive Messiah Complex are on the other half of the cover.

All three of them?

Joe Franklin

11-28-2007, 06:54 PM

All three of them?

All 4 of them.:D

Faded

11-28-2007, 07:04 PM

Heh. It'd be kind of cute if there were only five of them left and have the whole "mirror the past" thing going on.

Who's in your five?!

MartinRedmond

11-29-2007, 08:33 AM

The covers are extra shitty.

Swashbuckler

11-29-2007, 08:41 AM

jarrod

11-29-2007, 09:03 AM

Heh. It'd be kind of cute if there were only five of them left and have the whole "mirror the past" thing going on.

Who's in your five?!
Don't forget secret sixth in the basement... which would have to be Bling! naturally. <3 <3

Joe Franklin

11-29-2007, 08:39 PM

The covers are extra shitty.

And may just be red hearings to boot?:confused:

We R. Venom

12-04-2007, 03:00 PM

"Not immediately, Dan, because of the way the line changes in January/February. But you can't keep a guy like Bobby Drake down for long: look for him to show up in "X-Men: Legacy" and elsewhere."

I know what book I'm buying now.:D I can always count on Mike C.

claimtosubclaim

12-04-2007, 05:32 PM

That's a good one. If only 5 new X-Men survived to mirror the original class I would have...

Mercury in place of Iceman
Anole in place of Beast
Elixir in place of Angel
Hellion in place of Cyclops
and either Surge or Pixie.

I would think that Mercury moreso mirrors the protective/pseudo-maternal personality of Jean, and Rockslide is very similar to Iceman in that he can exist as psionic energy and is a jokester/prankster like Bobby was at his age.

"Not immediately, Dan, because of the way the line changes in January/February. But you can't keep a guy like Bobby Drake down for long: look for him to show up in "X-Men: Legacy" and elsewhere."

I know what book I'm buying now.:D I can always count on Mike C.

Hell yeah. Bobby and Rogue are accounted for. Now I just need a confirmation for Sam and Warren, and I'm set.