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The Colonel

11-25-2007, 02:34 PM

kate-pryde

11-25-2007, 02:42 PM

Hate him with a fiery passion. He's annoying and unnecessary. I want him to die a very painful death. I've been working on a Flash game where you can kill Korvus.

The only way I would tolerate Korvus is if he and Ch'od fall in love, but I'm beginning to think that Chris Yost lied to us about Korvus & Ch'od, and that Korvus isn't good enough for Ch'od.

rwsmith

11-25-2007, 02:43 PM

Hate him. And Hepzibah. They're the two worst things to come out of Brubaker's RAFOTHSE IMO. Well, that and the lame repowering of Xavier through the M'Kraan Crystal.

So freakin' stupid to depower he and Magneto only to have them almost immediately get their powers back through some lame ass deus ex machina plot device. Pathetic on Marvel's part. They should've displayed some balls and allowed the two of them to remain human and powerless.

Affinity

11-25-2007, 02:57 PM

I don't hate him for the sole reason that he's a new character. We need more of those, I think, and along with the development of all the Starjammers as characters (looks like Corsair was holding them all back!) is pretty cool. It's no longer Corsair's Starjammers, with Yost giving Raza and Ch'od personalities and Hepzibah rocking us hard.

MarvelGirlBoy

11-25-2007, 03:04 PM

We need to see new characters, and as a male tied into the Phoenix mythos, he's almost unique in that respect.

That said, he's boring, personality-less, and from what I can see (scant knowledge of RAFOTHSE) Chris Yost has relegated him to an even greater irrelevancy than Brubaker initially gave him - thank god for Yost.

Rachel interacting with Alex and letting loose in Emperor Vulcan #3 is what I wanna see, not her entangled with some extraterrestrial nobody. That's Warpath's job.

podmark

11-25-2007, 03:08 PM

I actually like him. Not sure why exactly. He's got a kind of nobility that I like. I suspect he'll die in Emperor Vulcan however.

DDM

11-25-2007, 03:14 PM

Korvus adds nothing to the story & his romance with Rachel does not make any sense even if he related to Phoenix! I just about cracked-up laughing when I saw his huge phallic Phoenix Sword...:evilsmile And then I just rolled my eyes.

pryde15

11-25-2007, 03:15 PM

Boring character, he doesn't add anything to the story for me. He is just there, wasted space IMHO.

The Colonel

11-25-2007, 03:16 PM

lol...i knew some people hated him but goodness.

But saying he doesn't have a personality is like saying Snake-Eyes from G.I. Joe doesnt have a personality. His personality is alot like Grail from Wetworks, and people loved him for some reason......

GoingGreen

11-25-2007, 03:19 PM

The Colonel

11-25-2007, 03:22 PM

I'm just not a fan of the REAL Wolverine clone. X-23 is cool when she's loopy in the head and written by her creators. However... Korvus is like... X-2Wolvie. A very bad concept with very bad outcomes. Yost is writing him well though. Mainly because he broke Korvus and Rachel up.

Can he please not have that stupid retcon sword anymore?

I hear you....but he's Shiar, that's why his hair is like that. That's a whole race of people. I think it's more coincidence that he looks like Wolverine...maybe that is something they should change.

The sword I guess they were trying to make unique....if his sword wasn't like that....people would say he's just some other regular sword carrying dood...like Deadpool or Blade or Swordsman.

ZNOP

11-25-2007, 03:55 PM

We need to see new characters, and as a male tied into the Phoenix mythos, he's almost unique in that respect.

You mean like... Nathan, Strife, Nate, Kid Omega:rolleyes: and, Giruad? (GOTG) Unique?

The sword I guess they were trying to make unique....if his sword wasn't like that....people would say he's just some other regular sword carrying dood...like Deadpool or Blade or Swordsman.

Bah! So much for needing to be an Omega level mutant to weild the Phoenix Force. Korvus has a mutant blade. "No need for the Force today? Just leave home without it."

The_Bubblie

11-25-2007, 04:00 PM

At first I kind of liked him. Now every scene he's in makes him look like a borderline stalker (If he's not already there yet). I think he would be a cool character to use as a way to explore and flesh out Shiar history. But as a love story with Rachel I want him to die a fiery death.

AnthonyJ

11-25-2007, 10:35 PM

As a character, I don't have any special problems with him. His 'romance' with Rachel is way creepy, however, and for that he should be consigned to the trash-bin of comicdom (or possibly have the connection retconned as a villainous plot; if everything's the way it looks on the surface, the Chancellor is mega-stupid to have sent him after her).

CmX

11-25-2007, 10:55 PM

He seems like some generic rip-off of Cloud Strife from Final Fantasy. From a design point of view.

Faded

11-25-2007, 11:52 PM

He's okay, but he has the kind of visual design that I could never take seriously.

Flâneur

11-26-2007, 12:20 AM

Do not want.

worstblogever

11-26-2007, 01:04 AM

There's a lot of potential in Korvus, but the whirlwind romance with Rachel coming off as forced from the get-go kind of doomed the character, as well as the design of him with the Buster Sword and the outfit. He's from space... and in space, no one can hear you care.

Cayman

11-26-2007, 01:31 AM

I don't care for him. He's some Final Fantasy reject.

Swashbuckler

11-26-2007, 06:49 AM

I don't care for him. He's some Final Fantasy reject.

Agreed with everyone else. He seem's dull, uninspired and just makes Phoenix such a more complicated matter. I am tired of that stupid brid. With that said though, he's prefect for Rachel! She makes me vomit. And she deserves to be connected to some space case with a mega-sword that's just ridiculous. May they both be space debris at the end of Emporer Vulcan.

rZi

11-26-2007, 07:31 AM

He seems like some generic rip-off of Cloud Strife from Final Fantasy. From a design point of view.

Harr! i wouldn't exactly agree but i see why you would think that. I really can't stand any shi'ar so he's a nono for me.

jarrod

11-26-2007, 07:36 AM

The only Shi'ar I've ever liked were Deathbird, Cerise and crazy Lilandra (sane Lil = boooring). I think Korvus has made me like all those fab ladies a little less by association tho, he's really that heinous. :/

And omg, Ray + James 4-eva! They even have matching tatoos already, it's totally fated...

CJ Lentze

11-26-2007, 08:13 AM

Echo what most everyone said above. I don't dislike Korvus' character, I'm just very much opposed to his relationship with Rachel. But he could be a cool Starjammer if they were more clear about his power set, which is pretty vague right now except that he descended from a Phoenix and is the only one who can wield that sword.

So get him away from Rachel, and I could learn to like him. (And I know what it's like to stick up for a character who doesn't have a lot of fans. :) )

Deus ex Chris

11-26-2007, 08:24 AM

I think he's a bit lame, but so is Rachel. They're perfect for each other and perfect for comic book oblivion.

ibrakeforchinwe

11-26-2007, 08:36 AM

I like him. Not just because he's with Rachel, but I think he's cool. I never played Final Fantasy so I don't know if he's a rip off.

I hope they give him more panel time and expand his character. I also hope he and Rachel are together for a while. She always has either a fling or she dates a guy and he dies.

Mitteloss

11-26-2007, 08:43 AM

Korvus is just there...

I disliked him in RAFOTSE, but now he's just there, being pointless, because he pretty much is pointless to the story of X-Men: Emperor Vulcan. Infact he always has been, but still.

I wouldn't care if he died.

Pro

11-26-2007, 08:49 AM

He was pretty pointless in RAFOTSE other than as romantic interest for Rachel which could have been filled by an established character such as Warpath or Nightcrawler. The whole Rachel/Korvus thing took panel time away from more deserving character interactions.

GoingGreen

11-26-2007, 09:26 AM

You mean like... Nathan, Strife, Nate, Kid Omega:rolleyes: and, Giruad? (GOTG) Unique?

Bah! So much for needing to be an Omega level mutant to weild the Phoenix Force. Korvus has a mutant blade. "No need for the Force today? Just leave home without it."

The portable Phoenix Force. Wish I had one. Stupid Korvus.

justin gilchrist

11-26-2007, 09:54 AM

I don't like him. He's one of the reasons I dropped Uncanny. There are enough Wolverine-like badass characters, why add another one? Add to that his Final Fantasy sword and Kurvos is even worse.

Flameworthy

11-26-2007, 10:32 AM

Agreed with everyone else. He seem's dull, uninspired and just makes Phoenix such a more complicated matter. I am tired of that stupid brid. With that said though, he's prefect for Rachel! She makes me vomit. And she deserves to be connected to some space case with a mega-sword that's just ridiculous. May they both be space debris at the end of Emporer Vulcan.

I like the way you think. Throw in Alex for safe measure.

Joe Acro

11-26-2007, 10:41 AM

I'm a bit indifferent to him, really. On the one hand, I find a sword-wielding, male Phoenix to be an interesting idea. Although the sword being that anime-like oversized Cable-gun equivalent is a bit much. But he has this warrior attitude that fits well given the climate and the regular Starjammers. He and Raza probably get along well.

The main problem, though, is that he hasn't really done enough for me to warrant forming a decent opinion of him, though. I didn't mind his relationship with Rachel (and still don't, even though it's been tossed aside), but I don't have a true sense of character, what he's really capable of, or where he fits into the current story (as more than a supporting character). Outside of scenes with Rachel, he's had little to no speaking lines.

To me, it seems like he's an interesting idea that is full of potential. Until he does more, though, I remain indifferent.

dellicious

11-26-2007, 11:23 AM

i only tolerate him. much better than say red lotus
i dont think him and rachel are that bad. they replaced hezibah and corsair on the starjammers, and i hope they stay in space with their new roles

Phil Hunn

11-26-2007, 11:33 AM

Korvus hasn't done nearly enough for me to hate him yet. Of course, if he continues to be a relatively blank slate, then he'll deserve everything he gets (Thunderbird III engendered my hatred purely because he largely stood around not saying much, after all).

The HUGE FREAKIN' SWORD he's carrying around is a design disaster, though. Whoever greenlit that monstrosity should be ashamed of themselves...

kate-pryde

11-26-2007, 11:47 AM

Now every scene he's in makes him look like a borderline stalker (If he's not already there yet). I think he would be a cool character to use as a way to explore and flesh out Shiar history. But as a love story with Rachel I want him to die a fiery death.

I don't get why Yost is writing Korvus like a brooding teenage who's been dumped. It doesn't improve his character, and makes him even more annoying. Defining Korvus only by his stupid relationship with Rachel doesn't add anything to Emperor Vulcan.

I'd rather Korvus and Rachel's relationship gone in a much darker direction - something like Korvus was only using Rachel, deceiving her as some sort of ploy to capture her or use her. I wish James' distrust and possible jealousy of Korvus had gone somewhere. There was a lot of potential with that and would have given other characters more panel time, instead of just silly Korvus and Rachel scenes straight out of a bad 90s teen movie.

Brubaker talks about how big of a fan of Veronica Mars and Joss Whedon he is, so I assumed he'd be able to write those type of relationships. But Korvus and Rachel ended up completely and totally flat.

podmark

11-26-2007, 12:09 PM

lol I love the giant sword. Reminds me of Kisame.

Daithi

11-26-2007, 12:09 PM

Dislike him. Mainly because he took up so much panel time in Uncanny that could have been put to better use.

I don't get why Brubaker and his "Can't Rachel forget DoFP?" would create a love interest for Rachel and make them a couple based on their history which includes DoFP.

ExodusCloak

11-26-2007, 12:10 PM

I'm just not a fan of the REAL Wolverine clone. X-23 is cool when she's loopy in the head and written by her creators. However... Korvus is like... X-2Wolvie. A very bad concept with very bad outcomes. Yost is writing him well though. Mainly because he broke Korvus and Rachel up.

Can he please not have that stupid retcon sword anymore?

I think he's a bit lame, but so is Rachel. They're perfect for each other and perfect for comic book oblivion.

Agreed, it's sort of a parallel to the what if Jean and Logan got together relationship.

Phil Hunn

11-26-2007, 12:14 PM

Agreed, it's sort of a parallel to the what if Jean and Logan got together relationship.

Blasphemy! Everyone knows that Jean & Logan are perfect for each other, because they've... uh... kissed a few times, and they're both really passionate and stuff. And Scott is a big poopy-head who doesn't understand Jean the way Logan understands her.

See? Perfect for one another! ;)

The Colonel

11-26-2007, 12:33 PM

Phil Hunn

11-26-2007, 12:36 PM

lol@ this thread. funny stuff in here

Only thing I disagree with is how the word ripoff is being thrown around. I have never played final fantasy, but I know what its about, is it possible that whoever came up with the sword has never played it either?

Well, considering there is a character in the Soul Calibur series who also has a ridiculously large sword (the undead guy called Nightmare), that might well be a possibility...

Joe Acro

11-26-2007, 12:55 PM

Well, considering there is a character in the Soul Calibur series who also has a ridiculously large sword (the undead guy called Nightmare), that might well be a possibility...
And there's at least a dozen other anime or anime-styled stories with characters with those kinds of swords.

I think either Tan or Brubaker just wanted him to have such a sword.

Pach!

11-26-2007, 02:59 PM

I think he and Rachel should constantly make out so they bore me.

Askani's Flame

11-26-2007, 03:03 PM

Eh. He does nothing really for me. Especially when Warpath and he were on the same team. He could disappear and I would be happy and wouldn't miss him. I am not a fan of him and Rachel together.

MarvelGirlBoy

11-26-2007, 03:38 PM

You mean like... Nathan, Strife, Nate, Kid Omega:rolleyes: and, Giruad? (GOTG) Unique?

o.O Note the "almost" preceding the "unique". I am well aware of Kid Omega. He also happens to be shut inside a jar, bodiless; so Korvus is, being active, fairly unique.

I wasn't aware of Giruad, being, as he is, quite so obscure. The rest have nothing to do with the Phoenix mythos, merely familial relations to Jean Grey. By "tied to the mythos" I did not mean "knows Phoenix".

The_Bubblie

11-26-2007, 05:14 PM

And omg, Ray + James 4-eva! They even have matching tatoos already, it's totally fated...

He already has a pussy-cat to play with.

StarPhoenix

11-26-2007, 06:52 PM

I don't know, everytime I see Korvus, I think Goku.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f33/bflmarmo/Untitled-1.png

With Inuyasha's sword.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f33/bflmarmo/inuyasha.jpg

'Though Inuyasha's sword is much nicer, IMO.

Kage Kisaragi

11-26-2007, 06:55 PM

is Korvus that dude that looks almost exactly like Wolverine... yeah me thinks marvel is dishing out the Wolverine Jean Grey romance but making it happen through two different characters. Like mother like daughter no?

ZNOP

11-26-2007, 07:18 PM

ClanAskani

11-26-2007, 09:47 PM

Korvus looks like Goku with Cloud from Final Fantasy's sword:

http://www.rachel-summers.com/cloud.jpg

I don't like Korvus His so-called relationship with Rachel ruined him for me.

I don't think Korvus isn't that similar to Wolverine. Warpath is more of the Wolverine clone. Korvus is simply a stupid manga character with a strange ginormous sword.

Last_Avenger

11-26-2007, 09:58 PM

Korvus is just lame IMO.

Wolverine and Warpath trump him tenfold, and Rachel is too good for that Shi'Ar Man-Whore anyways.

Kage Kisaragi

11-26-2007, 10:01 PM

all I meant was that he looks just like wolverine, and really he does have a very strong resemblance to the character, and the fact that him and rachel have this repour (sp?) is very much similiar to Wolverine and Jean having some kind of unexplained attraction to one another. I'm not saying thats how it is in the comics, cause truthfully once I got wind of the Jean x Wolvie love bug I kind of ignored it and pushed it out of my mind.

Kage Kisaragi

11-26-2007, 10:02 PM

Korvus is just lame IMO.

Wolverine and Warpath trump him tenfold, and Rachel is too good for that Shi'Ar Man-Whore anyways.

that was my first impression as well heh heh. More because I was jealous that someone was smooching Rachel though. Can no psyche red head go untainted?

ZNOP

11-26-2007, 10:21 PM

that was my first impression as well heh heh. More because I was jealous that someone was smooching Rachel though. Can no psyche red head go untainted?

Oh, I like you. You feel the same way I, do about redheads:D

The Colonel

11-26-2007, 11:02 PM

Well.....if X-writers are paying any attention to this thread...he'll be dead soon.:(

*Sigh* I guess they need MORE characters in Spandex with unoriginal powerset

Daithi

11-27-2007, 01:52 AM

*Sigh* I guess they need MORE characters in Spandex with unoriginal powerset

Huh? What's original about Korvus exactly? His entire backstory is identical to Rachel's. His powers are undefined energy/tk bolts from a sword.

Korvus was just there so we get Shi'ar hating Rachel falling in love with a Shi'ar guy. Both connected to the Phoenix and both being tools of their government. It might have led somewhere but it ended up being "both are so like so they make out".

The Colonel

11-27-2007, 06:23 AM

Huh? What's original about Korvus exactly? His entire backstory is identical to Rachel's. His powers are undefined energy/tk bolts from a sword.

Korvus was just there so we get Shi'ar hating Rachel falling in love with a Shi'ar guy. Both connected to the Phoenix and both being tools of their government. It might have led somewhere but it ended up being "both are so like so they make out".

I've got a spandex pet peeve. But anyway....he wore armor, the sword wasnt just indestructible, he was able to take out the whole X-team with it, including Nightcrawler. Sword gives him the power of flight, including the t/k bolts. From what I read, it may have also increased his strength too.

Only character that even comes close to that is Black Knight, and i've read some books that included him....they always have to include some kind of midevil angle when they write him (like 20 flash-backs to the middle ages, or some fight that took place in the 15th century that nobody cares about); no modern character is built in the same mold as he is.

Daithi

11-27-2007, 07:04 AM

Sword gives him the power of flight, including the t/k bolts. From what I read, it may have also increased his strength too.

He can fly? In anycase it's just TK. Rachel, Jean, etc all do the same thing.

jarrod

11-27-2007, 07:54 AM

He already has a pussy-cat to play with.
Won't last... either the relationship or Hep herself is gonna bite it soon imo. ;)

CJ Lentze

11-27-2007, 07:55 AM

Won't last... either the relationship or Hep herself is gonna bite it soon imo. ;)

If Hepzibah dies, I will tear the walls down. :(

The Colonel

11-27-2007, 08:27 AM

He can fly? In anycase it's just TK. Rachel, Jean, etc all do the same thing.

yea...but hes not a tk. anyone in his bloodline that has the sword has flight

kate-pryde

11-27-2007, 12:42 PM

I don't see Korvus as being unique at all. He reminds me of everything that's bad about Gambit multiplied by a 1000.

He seems like a designed by committee character that's inserted into a story to appeal to a different demographic - teens that like anime, and given a cliche back story that would cause him to automatically fall in love with Rachel.

steve2275

11-27-2007, 09:16 PM

hes ok
if anyone has to die i hope its him(preferebly thru sacrafice)

Monty_Cristo

11-27-2007, 09:33 PM

I mean just the guy as a character. I think the garbage they have him go through with Rachel is tedious and annoying....but as far as a character, his background, his powerset, and his motivation...I like em.

What do you think?

i hate aliens. i'm a xenophobe. they've always been bad news when forced upon the x-franchise (The Brood being the exception).

CyberHubbs

11-27-2007, 09:46 PM

No real problem with the character. The design could've definitely been less Manga, IMO. His looks just seems a little bland.

I did like his affair with Rachel. Their connection with the Phoenix Force brought them together, and that had a lot of potential. But that should've happened over time, and not right away. A relationship tends to wussify a male character in comics.