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Darth Joker
11-24-2007, 10:50 PM
...killed by one or two shots from a top-notch real world sniper using the best sniper gun that the real world has to offer?
Like... a lot of anime characters strike me as being insanely powerful, but while having pretty normal flesh when it comes to soaking up piercing damage (Nanoha Takamachi from Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha might be the very best example of this - she's incredibly powerful, but not all that hard to make bleed).
So, who is the strongest/most powerful fictional character who can be killed by one or two shots from a world-class sniper?
Is it Nanoha Takamachi? Is it someone else?
Demon King Psycho
11-24-2007, 10:54 PM
As in permanently killed? :P
But yea, alot of chars are glass cannons. I think that Dr Strange would probably count.
Ghost
11-24-2007, 10:59 PM
Depends on what you mean. Are we talking a purely technical scenario here? That is, they just stand there and take the shot without defending themselves? Or is it a real scenario with an actual assassination attempt?
Anyway, I suspect most magic users without bullet-time auto-shields or extreme physical stats should apply. For example, Sakura Kinomoto can stop time, erase things from existance and warp reality to a limited degree, but she still has a very human body and needs at least a second to draw any given card.
Darth Joker
11-24-2007, 11:04 PM
Depends on what you mean. Are we talking a purely technical scenario here? That is, they just stand there and take the shot without defending themselves? Or is it a real scenario with an actual assassination attempt?
A real scenario with an actual assassination attempt. Like, if they have magical defenses/powers that would somehow pick up on the presence of a regular guy carrying around a sniper rifle... then good for them.
Anyway, I suspect most magic users without bullet-time auto-shields or extreme physical stats should apply. For example, Sakura Kinomoto can stop time, erase things from existance and warp reality to a limited degree, but she still has a very human body and needs at least a second to draw any given card.
Seems like magical girls might be the big losers in this scenario, then.
Darth Joker
11-24-2007, 11:06 PM
As in permanently killed? :P
But yea, alot of chars are glass cannons. I think that Dr Strange would probably count.
Strange honestly has no defence for this?
Wow.
I'm amazed that someone like Baron Mordo simply hasn't hired someone like Bullseye to kill Dr. Strange then (assuming that this hasn't actually happenned, of course).
FalconX2000
11-24-2007, 11:12 PM
Magneto and Haru Glory come to mind.
Demon King Psycho
11-24-2007, 11:12 PM
Strange honestly has no defence for this?
Oh he has defenses. I thought he was just gona stand there (hence Ghost's question).
He's got defenses. Forcefields and autoshields and shit. But if he doesn't ahve them up he's regular human in durability.
Darth Joker
11-24-2007, 11:16 PM
Oh he has defenses. I thought he was just gona stand there (hence Ghost's question).
He's got defenses. Forcefields and autoshields and shit. But if he doesn't ahve them up he's regular human in durability.
Oh, I see.
Magneto might be a good choice, but I think that his magnetic powers might give him some degree of protection against, well, a fast tiny piece of metal.
Still, one of my favourite cartoon scenes of all time came in a classic FF cartoon when Reed Richards defeated Magneto by pulling a loaded gun/bullet made entirely out of wood on him. :D
heretic
11-25-2007, 03:03 AM
Anyway, I suspect most magic users without bullet-time auto-shields or extreme physical stats should apply. For example, Sakura Kinomoto can stop time, erase things from existance and warp reality to a limited degree, but she still has a very human body and needs at least a second to draw any given card.
Seems like magical girls might be the big losers in this scenario, then.
Of course these are also among the cases where the first shot had _better_ count.
HTG (picturing how effective a sniper can be with Starlight Breakers being unleashed in his general direction)
sun tzu
11-25-2007, 04:02 AM
What about Molecular Man? Control over matter that makes him a borderline cosmic, but I don't seem to recall any particular defense against such attacks...
Silent Mobius2
11-25-2007, 04:26 AM
Would Shiki Tohno count? I mean, while he has his funky ability to destroy just about anything by cutting their death lines, he has a very much human body and pretty much anything the bad guys at Tsukihime throw at him would turn him into pulp.
Nanoha has autoshields, same with Magneto, so sniping would fail more often than not. I'm not seeing any real world sniper shoot with tracking, multidirectional bullets after all, and that's standard for Nanohaverse snipers.
I'm thinking someone omnipotent, but still fleshy. Like say, Haruhi Suzumiya.
Captain Smith
11-25-2007, 09:20 AM
Wonder Woman - can stand a superpunch but can get shot.
Parallax (Hal version) wasn't too happy with an arrow in him.
Sharkerbob
11-25-2007, 09:23 AM
What about Molecular Man? Control over matter that makes him a borderline cosmic, but I don't seem to recall any particular defense against such attacks...
Wolverine could have killed in back in Secret Wars if Cyclops hadn't deflected the shot. As it was, he still tagged Owen with a deep gash that could have been mortal if it weren't for Doom.
Sun Wukong
11-25-2007, 09:23 AM
you make a point, shes clearly not bullet proof or she wouldnt need them wristbands
Darth Joker
11-25-2007, 09:51 AM
Nanoha has autoshields, same with Magneto, so sniping would fail more often than not. I'm not seeing any real world sniper shoot with tracking, multidirectional bullets after all, and that's standard for Nanohaverse snipers.
Nanoha has autoshields? Perhaps in Striker S, but not in her original anime - not that I can recall.
I can't recall a time, in her original anime or Nanoha A's, where she's been blasted at, and she didn't need to consciously raise shields against the blast.
If there's a specific example you can refer to, I'll consider it.
I'm thinking someone omnipotent, but still fleshy. Like say, Haruhi Suzumiya.
Haruhi's not omnipotent, in part because of this reason.
However, I will say that if you think a real world top-notch sniper could kill Haruhi, then yeah... that's probably the most powerful fictional character that a real world sniper could kill.
The Zapper
11-25-2007, 10:38 AM
Magneto and Haru Glory come to mind.
I don't know who Haru is, but I seriously doubt that a bullet is getting past Magneto's shields. Maybe a weak version, but a Mags anywhere near full power is not getting shot by a bullet.
chilled monkey
11-25-2007, 12:51 PM
A real scenario with an actual assassination attempt. Like, if they have magical defenses/powers that would somehow pick up on the presence of a regular guy carrying around a sniper rifle... then good for them.
Seems like magical girls might be the big losers in this scenario, then.
I'm not so sure. If this assumes that said girls start off in civillian form, yes, a regular sniper can kill them. If they start off in henshin form, I think there are some who are capable of surviving sniper fire.
Johnny_Storm
11-25-2007, 01:08 PM
If this is an assasination attempt by a professional sniper then I say the Flash should be able to be killed. It's one thing for him to actually see gunmen in front of him firing but without superhearing how will he tell a sniper is shooting at him?
Captain Morgan
11-25-2007, 01:11 PM
If this is an assasination attempt by a professional sniper then I say the Flash should be able to be killed. It's one thing for him to actually see gunmen in front of him firing but without superhearing how will he tell a sniper is shooting at him?
Been tried and failed. Wally began to feel the bullet digging into his neck, and moved out of the way.
Magneto doesn't have autoshields by board conventions. Wolverine has caught him with his pants down one too many times.
Becoming An Anthropologist
11-25-2007, 01:14 PM
By strongest do you mean physically strong or just overall ability ?
Sharpandpointies
11-25-2007, 01:31 PM
Wolverine could have killed in back in Secret Wars if Cyclops hadn't deflected the shot. As it was, he still tagged Owen with a deep gash that could have been mortal if it weren't for Doom.
Except now, apparantly, Owen can survive with his soul outside his body, then whip up a new body. It has been brought up a few times on Rumbles.
Arilou
11-25-2007, 01:40 PM
Haruhi's not omnipotent, in part because of this reason.
However, I will say that if you think a real world top-notch sniper could kill Haruhi, then yeah... that's probably the most powerful fictional character that a real world sniper could kill.
It depends on how you figure Haruhi's godhood work. I always assume that if she doesen't want to die, matters will simply arrange itself that she will never be in a position to be shot.... But then I DO take the enitre godhood thing literally: The Universe really DOES revolve around her, and EVERYTHING happens according to her (often subconscious) desires.
Darth Joker
11-25-2007, 03:45 PM
By strongest do you mean physically strong or just overall ability ?
"Most powerful" would probably be a better term.
Phrozen
11-25-2007, 06:08 PM
The best and most powerful sniper rifle would be a bolt action .50 caliber magnum rifle. The bullets fired from a gun of that type are supersonic.
Nanoha has autoshields? Perhaps in Striker S, but not in her original anime - not that I can recall.
I can't recall a time, in her original anime or Nanoha A's, where she's been blasted at, and she didn't need to consciously raise shields against the blast.
If there's a specific example you can refer to, I'll consider it.
Nothing specific in Strikers. She diddnt take a shot to the head or anything. However, her costume (well, all their costumes) are stated to be some sort of basic omnidirectional armor (and untransformed, the intelligent device provides autoshields enough to raise their physical stats to a significant degree - a girl for example felt confident it would protect her well enough in case of a motercycle crash), but not enough to stop a mage who's really trying. She has also caught an energy blade with her bare hand, and it resulted in only superficial bleeding. Also, in Strikers, she apparenly becomes so good she has something like a danger sense.
And then much weaker characters than her have taken magic bullets to the back of their skulls and left alive.
Haruhi's not omnipotent, in part because of this reason.
Haruhi can be likened to a cosmic lynchpin that holds her universe together. A sniper takes her out and she stops observing her universe - Ergo, it ends.
She however thinks completely like a regular human. If she believes getting shot will kill her, it will kill her. See her hurting herself with a mere fall. If she however believes that bullets upon hitting her turn into fluffy puppies, then that's fair game also.
Radioactive Zombie
11-25-2007, 08:17 PM
Obviously Captain America.
Anyway, Xavier, the Nemesis, Spider-Man (really, REALLY unlikely, with that spider-sense of his), Neo (if he doesn't deflect it first), and yes, Magneto (he only stops shots if he's aware on them, hence why he blew away the police convoy).
Melchior
11-25-2007, 09:37 PM
Nanoha has autoshields? Perhaps in Striker S, but not in her original anime - not that I can recall.
I can't recall a time, in her original anime or Nanoha A's, where she's been blasted at, and she didn't need to consciously raise shields against the blast.
If there's a specific example you can refer to, I'll consider it.
Some of the actions in episodes 4 and 6 might be considered automatic rather than a conscious shield, since they were apparently performed by Raising Heart rather than Nanoha. (A Flier, Protection, and Flash Step). On the other hand, they were performed within a combat situation, so as long as the sniper does not trigger something in Raising Heart, the events are probably not applicable.
edit: Stupid answer on my part.
I should have read the first post in the thread before answering
JCAll
11-25-2007, 10:12 PM
Obviously Captain America.
Anyway, Xavier, the Nemesis, Spider-Man (really, REALLY unlikely, with that spider-sense of his), Neo (if he doesn't deflect it first), and yes, Magneto (he only stops shots if he's aware on them, hence why he blew away the police convoy).
Neo from the Matrix? I don't know about that. Smith put a clip full of rounds in his chest, and he just got back up.
And submit...A Carebear! Get the bugger from a distance where it doesn't have time to Stare me.
Chrosis
11-25-2007, 10:46 PM
Magneto doesn't have autoshields by board conventions. Wolverine has caught him with his pants down one too many times.
Despite Magento saying, on many occasions, "I could smell your adamantium from a mile away!"?
Arilou
11-26-2007, 02:36 AM
Haruhi can be likened to a cosmic lynchpin that holds her universe together. A sniper takes her out and she stops observing her universe - Ergo, it ends.
She however thinks completely like a regular human. If she believes getting shot will kill her, it will kill her. See her hurting herself with a mere fall. If she however believes that bullets upon hitting her turn into fluffy puppies, then that's fair game also.
It's a bit more complicated than that (and yes, omnipotence, or even near-omnipotence, is headache-inducing)
She thinks like a regular human, yes, believes herself to be a regular human and thus subject ot the regular hazards of a regular human (well, whehter or not she *truly* does is debatable, but it seems to be a good enough premise) but the point is that in order to even get into a position to be targeted by a sniper she has to *want* to be targeted by a sniper for some reason (which, given her thirst for excitement, isn't TOO unlikely a premise).
Despite Magento saying, on many occasions, "I could smell your adamantium from a mile away!"?
*sniff sniff* "Hmmm, what's that smell.... Damnit, it's getting really annoying.... Wait, isn't that..." *snikt* "DAMNIT WOLVERINE!"
Verdugo
11-26-2007, 02:54 AM
Vash the Stampede would have been killed, seemingly, if Wolfwood hadn't blocked that bullet that Caine the Longshot shot at him. Not sure if he'd necessarily be the most powerful, though.
SiliconDream
11-26-2007, 10:29 AM
Pip the Troll when he was in control of twenty-odd Cosmic Cubes. Silhouette still snuck up on him and oneshotted him.
Darth Joker
11-26-2007, 10:41 AM
Pip the Troll when he was in control of twenty-odd Cosmic Cubes. Silhouette still snuck up on him and oneshotted him.
I really like the creativity in this answer. It's been ages since I read any of Marvel's Infinity trilogy from the early 90s.
And, frankly, I'd probably consider a Marvel cosmic egg wielder to probably be above Haruhi in overall power level.
So... you might have the best answer thus far! :)
JCAll
11-26-2007, 12:38 PM
Despite Magento saying, on many occasions, "I could smell your adamantium from a mile away!"?
Seriously, when was the last time Wolverine bathed?
I could probably smell him from a mile away.
Clouds-Are-Nice
11-28-2007, 12:22 AM
Protection and Defenser are both considered auto-shields for Nanoha\Fate I think.
Defenser's first appearance was to shield Nanoha before she knew about how to use her powers, it appeared again when she fought Fate for the first time, and when she fought Vita for the first time as well. It appeared autonomously for all of those fights (except maybe against Vita).
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