Batman characters you'd like to see killed off

[Aarcee]

What are some Batman characters you'd like to see killed off?
I for one, would like to see Damien killed off, as well as Selina Kyle's baby.

[The Batman]

So this is really more of a list of recent storylines that we'd wish hadn't happened than characters we'd like killed off?

[AlexApprobation]

What are some Batman characters you'd like to see killed off?
I for one, would like to see Damien killed off, as well as Selina Kyle's baby.

I agree with Selina Kyle's baby (I was thinking about that a few days ago). I actually like Damien Wayne, though. He's a little bastard, but that's why I love him as a character. Such great tension between the other Bat-wards.

[Aarcee]

So this is really more of a list of recent storylines that we'd wish hadn't happened than characters we'd like killed off?


No, it's about any character in a batman comic title that you'd like to see killed off.

[Violently Apathetic]

As much as I'd LOVE to say the Joker the truth is I actually like him as a character and would prefer he be set aside and only written by certain writers. I'm going to have to go with...huh, I can't really decide. I think it's generally better to shelve characters than kill them. No character is so broken he or she cannot be fixed and I don't get much satisfaction from seeing fictional characters killed.

Well, aside from Black Mask, bastard had it coming.

And why on Earth would you want Selina's baby killed off? What could a baby have done that's so offensive that 'death' is the best way to deal with her? Have her punched out of existence, spirited away by faeries, whatever, but killed?

[foxley]

Jason Todd! He should never have been brought back from the dead.

And Hush.

[TheBatGotHim]

-Poison Ivy
-Jason Todd and STAY dead!
-The Mad Hatter. Lame villain.

[OverMaster]

-Poison Ivy
-Jason Todd and STAY dead!
-The Mad Hatter. Lame villain.

Bite your tongue. Ivy's great, and Hatter can be cool when properly used.

Other than Jason and maybe Damian, though, I'd say we have had enough Batcharacters wasted of late (no pun intended).

I mean, Ventriloquist, Ratcatcher, Spoiler, Magpie, Orca, Firefly, Charaxes, the Trigger Twins, Black Mask, Black Spider II, KGBeast, Blockbuster, Orpheus, the list goes on and on... enough already.

[FCEEVIPER]

Jason Todd. Again.

[rwe1138]

No one. I'd rather they wait in Limbo for a good story to come along.

[PunisherFan]

Mr Zsasz... i just think that with all the people he's killed by now he would have died of blood loss. lol

[caboose]

I know this isn't going to be popular, but Jason Todd needs to stay alive. For him to die again would just make things worse.

[SpaceBooger]

I don't think that any villains should ever die, unless there will only be one writer for the whole series.

We, as fans, complain when they kill a character and even mares when they bring them back.
Usually when Writer A kills said character they plan on him or her to stay dead. It is not until Writer B begins his or her stint and wants to write a story involving the dead villain, so they resurrect him or her... it is an endless circle so never start it by killing off villains.

[Captain Jim]

What are some Batman characters you'd like to see killed off?
I for one, would like to see Damien killed off, as well as Selina Kyle's baby.

Can't imagine why anyone would want Helena dead; she's already been written out of the storline, why do you need her dead?

I'd like to be rid of Damien and Jason Todd as well, but I'd like to see something more creative than simply killing them off.

And I'd like to see Stephanie Brown brought back. :p

[RowdyRodimus]

I think there could be a lot of great stories if Gordon was murdered.

[mattx110]

Mr Zsasz... i just think that with all the people he's killed by now he would have died of blood loss. lol
Yea, one day he kills like 200 people, and accidentily kills himself doing the end of day tallying.

[foxley]

I know this isn't going to be popular, but Jason Todd needs to stay alive. For him to die again would just make things worse.

So if you make a mistake, you shouldn't try and fix it? :D

[shaxper]

Jason Todd, but his death should mean something this time. His final acts should give purpose to his reincarnation, even while he'll finally be back six feet under where he belongs.

Robin and The Teen Titans. Imagine the power of having the young superhero club die tragically on some mission, leaving their elder counterparts to wonder why the hell they thought it was a good idea to let these kids risk their lives on their own in the first place? It would be a powerful vehicle for many other titles(especially Batman) in which characters would have incredible guilt and grief as a vehicle for character development. The idea of the Teen Titans always felt irresponsible to me, even while it's been a fun romp. this is the kind of event that can drive the DCU into new directions without having Jean Loring kill Sue Dibney for no rational reason. How can the same man that spent years kicking himself over the death of Jason Todd allow Tim to take so many risks on his own? The self-doubt that would ensue would be dramatically rich, to say the least.

Besides, I'm still of the belief that there should only be one Robin. As great as Tim is, I think his presence detracts from the memories of his predecessor. It's hard to see Nightwing as having once been Robin while another stands in his place. That history is so pivotal to understanding Dick as a character. Heck, if the Teen Titans were offed, I'd bring back the old Titans in their place. It would finally give Dick a meaningful role in the DCU again.

Okay, I know I'm going to get flamed to kingdom come (and not the Alex Ross one) for this post, so let's hear it...

[foxley]

Robin and The Teen Titans. Imagine the power of having the young superhero club die tragically on some mission, leaving their elder counterparts to wonder why the hell they thought it was a good idea to let these kids risk their lives on their own in the first place? It would be a powerful vehicle for many other titles(especially Batman) in which characters would have incredible guilt and grief as a vehicle for character development. The idea of the Teen Titans always felt irresponsible to me, even while it's been a fun romp. this is the kind of event that can drive the DCU into new directions without having Jean Loring kill Sue Dibney for no rational reason. How can the same man that spent years kicking himself over the death of Jason Todd allow Tim to take so many risks on his own? The self-doubt that would ensue would be dramatically rich, to say the least.


Um, didn't you just describe the events that kicked off Civil War in Marvel? (Substituting New Warriors for Titans). If there's one thing I don't want to see the DCU its this hero-vs-(alleged) hero piece of crap, culminating in its 'the government is always right and if you disagree with US government policy you deserve to be sent to a concentration camp' moral.

Do also want a see a storyline where DC's heroes are replaced by shapeshifting aliens?

[zebop]

Jason Todd should take the dirt nap and stay dead this time.

I know DC will never kill The Joker, but Lawd Jeezus, I am sick of seeing him EVERY TWO MONTHS in a comic book. The Joker shows up so often and kills so many people only to be thrown back into Arkham for---oh, about five or six hours depending on what's on the menu for lunch---and then he escapes again to kill another dozen civilians and then start the whole same dull-ass dance again. Wash. Rinse. Repeat.

By now The Joker has racked up a body count second only to Galactus and I'm not too sure about Galactus since The Joker has a head start of about 30 years or so.

Putting The Joker on hiatus for about six months to a year would be sweet. It's like the old country song, "How Can I Miss You If You Never Go Away?"

But it will never happen. :evilangry

[Zacharius]

Problem with Joker is that DC made him too murderous.

He should be a character who rarely kills but could actually outsmart Batman now and then.

[foxley]

After A Lonely Place of Dying DC did hiatus the Joker for over a year, so it has been done in the past to good effect and could be done again.

[dancj]

I mean, Ventriloquist, Ratcatcher, Spoiler, Magpie, Orca, Firefly, Charaxes, the Trigger Twins, Black Mask, Black Spider II, KGBeast, Blockbuster, Orpheus, the list goes on and on... enough already.
I can't believe the Ventriloquist is really dead. He's too good a character!

[Captain Jim]

I think there could be a lot of great stories if Gordon was murdered.

Forget that. We already had Officer Down; that was close enough.

For that matter, Gordon was also replaced already. So I'm not sure what killing him would accomplish.

[Captain Jim]

Robin and The Teen Titans. Imagine the power of having the young superhero club die tragically on some mission, leaving their elder counterparts to wonder why the hell they thought it was a good idea to let these kids risk their lives on their own in the first place? It would be a powerful vehicle for many other titles(especially Batman) in which characters would have incredible guilt and grief as a vehicle for character development. The idea of the Teen Titans always felt irresponsible to me, even while it's been a fun romp. this is the kind of event that can drive the DCU into new directions without having Jean Loring kill Sue Dibney for no rational reason. How can the same man that spent years kicking himself over the death of Jason Todd allow Tim to take so many risks on his own? The self-doubt that would ensue would be dramatically rich, to say the least.

Isn't this similar to what Graduation Day was supposed to be?

Besides, I'm still of the belief that there should only be one Robin. As great as Tim is, I think his presence detracts from the memories of his predecessor. It's hard to see Nightwing as having once been Robin while another stands in his place.

Totally disagree. Tim is awesome as Robin and I can't see how this harms Dick at all.

Heck, if the Teen Titans were offed, I'd bring back the old Titans in their place. It would finally give Dick a meaningful role in the DCU again.


Isn't this what the upcoming Titans East is rumored to be?

[Assassin Spider]

For one, I wouldn't advocate the removal via death of any character, whether in the Batman Universe or any other subsegment of the larger DCU. The reason I'm so against it is that we're dealing with an editorial regime that thinks nothing of killing a character, usually one relatively unimportant or "redundant" by its standards, in order to boost sales or as a cheap "drama stimulator." Thus, the death --- no matter whose it is --- will mean nothing, and it will be yet another contribution to the sea of blood that started with Graduation Day.

As others have said, though, if you're going to have DC off someone, off the Joker. He's had it coming ever since he got turned into an engine of senseless and casual death.

[yourverysilly]

jason todd annoys me. damian wayne really annoys me. sigh, why can't continuity go back to just when that new gotham series was going? evolution is the definitive modern batman story.

[King Krypton]

And why on Earth would you want Selina's baby killed off? What could a baby have done that's so offensive that 'death' is the best way to deal with her? Have her punched out of existence, spirited away by faeries, whatever, but killed?

Because killing babies is "cool" and "edgy" and "realistic." The Iron Age/Dark Age taught us that any senseless death is inherently that, remember?

[king911]

ras a guhl or however you spell it

[shaxper]

Um, didn't you just describe the events that kicked off Civil War in Marvel? (Substituting New Warriors for Titans). If there's one thing I don't want to see the DCU its this hero-vs-(alleged) hero piece of crap, culminating in its 'the government is always right and if you disagree with US government policy you deserve to be sent to a concentration camp' moral.

Do also want a see a storyline where DC's heroes are replaced by shapeshifting aliens?

That's not really what I was talking about. I don't want to see the Titans do something foolish that leads to major problems. I want to see them lose on an important mission and die as a result.

[dreyga2000]

Would it be "cheating if I said nobody... I mean Bats has arguably the best rogue gallery/supporting cast in comics... If ain't broke don't fix it...

[The Xenos]

I'm gonna go with Jason Todd... again... permanently.

[GRANT!]

Nightwing, Huntress, and Jason Todd. I think the Batman cast needs to be more streamlined. Batman, Alfred, Robin and maybe a Batgirl is enough.

[Buried Alien]

*Batman* :evilsmile

So obvious, nobody even thought of it.

Buried Alien (The Fastest Post Alive!)

[The Xenos]

Nightwing, Huntress, and Jason Todd. I think the Batman cast needs to be more streamlined. Batman, Alfred, Robin and maybe a Batgirl is enough.

Bah. Aside from liking the character, I think Huntress has moved far away from Batman that it shouldn't even be an issue.

I would say the same of Nightwing, but certainly there are strong ties there. Still, I don't think killing him would solve anything. I don't think he's in the way at all. You can have him elsewhere and just have Batman and Robin operating in Gotham. That worked nice when he was in Bludhaven. Too bad DC messed that all up.

[Darth Joker]

I don't think it would hurt to streamline and/or revive Batman's rogues gallery a bit.

The core guys of Joker, Two-Face, The Riddler, etc... should probably be left alone, but someone like The Mad Hatter...

You could make a decent story out of him dying, and maybe Batman having a poignant tragic moment over failing to save the villain from a demise of his own doing this time.

For me, the Mad Hatter is a poor man's Riddler, and a poor man's Scarecrow, with a just a touch of zaniness (which, of course, can't compare to the Joker's zaniness), all poured into one. So, basically, there's nothing that the Mad Hatter brings to the table that one or another Batman villain can't also bring to the table. So... I wouldn't mind him being killed off.

[TROUBLEZ]

I don't want to see anymore characters killed off, but I would like to see Damien, Seline Kyles baby and Jason Todd's resurrection erased by Final Crisis. I think they are ideas that do more harm than help for Batman comics.

[NotSuper]

None. Every character is someone's favorite. I'd rather someone write a good story with an unpopular character, instead of just killing them off (which seems kind of lazy to me). Plus, it annoys me the way some fans constantly talk about characters they hate and how they'd like it if they were killed. Why would someone obsess about a character they don't like? Just don't read books that feature them. There's no reason to take that character away from readers who do enjoy him/her.

[OverMaster]

I don't think it would hurt to streamline and/or revive Batman's rogues gallery a bit.

The core guys of Joker, Two-Face, The Riddler, etc... should probably be left alone, but someone like The Mad Hatter...

You could make a decent story out of him dying, and maybe Batman having a poignant tragic moment over failing to save the villain from a demise of his own doing this time.

For me, the Mad Hatter is a poor man's Riddler, and a poor man's Scarecrow, with a just a touch of zaniness (which, of course, can't compare to the Joker's zaniness), all poured into one. So, basically, there's nothing that the Mad Hatter brings to the table that one or another Batman villain can't also bring to the table. So... I wouldn't mind him being killed off.

Read Gail Simone's Secret Six mini featuring Jervis. There's still a lot of potential in the character.

[Captain Jim]

Read Gail Simone's Secret Six mini featuring Jervis. There's still a lot of potential in the character.

I love what Gail did with most of those characters, but her Mad Hatter did nothing for me. She made him weird enough but there was just no attraction there for me. I seem to recall that Greg Rucka's version wasn't too bad, though.

[brundlefly]

jason todd... damian wayne...

Todd and Damian are easily my two top vote-getters, as well. I'd go with Hush for number three (let's please have no dips into the Lazarus Pit for him).

[GRANT!]

Bah. Aside from liking the character, I think Huntress has moved far away from Batman that it shouldn't even be an issue.

Maybe. I think the DCU is already cluttered with characters derivative of Batman and Superman. THey should just clean house.

I would say the same of Nightwing, but certainly there are strong ties there. Still, I don't think killing him would solve anything. I don't think he's in the way at all. You can have him elsewhere and just have Batman and Robin operating in Gotham. That worked nice when he was in Bludhaven. Too bad DC messed that all up.

Ideally I would have Dick always be Robin and not older then 13 or 14. There's not much of narrative hook to Nighwing other then the it's the guy who used to be Robin and who isn't as cool as Batman.

[GRANT!]

None. Every character is someone's favorite. I'd rather someone write a good story with an unpopular character, instead of just killing them off (which seems kind of lazy to me). Plus, it annoys me the way some fans constantly talk about characters they hate and how they'd like it if they were killed. Why would someone obsess about a character they don't like? Just don't read books that feature them. There's no reason to take that character away from readers who do enjoy him/her.

I was pissed when KGBeast died.

[mastaflan]

Is Bane dead??? I hope he stays that way if he is....oh and Killer croc...

[OverMaster]

Is Bane dead??? I hope he stays that way if he is....oh and Killer croc...

No, Bane isn't dead. And I find him and Croc to be cool enough.

They just need to make Croc less of a loser.

[Lord Trigon]

I like Hush but I would mess with the teen titan characters a death there could make some good stories as they are highly corruptable.

[Joe Night]

Jason Todd. I mean really, he was practically the Bucky of the DC universe and like Bucky should have stayed dead.

[PunisherFan]

I don't think it would hurt to streamline and/or revive Batman's rogues gallery a bit.

The core guys of Joker, Two-Face, The Riddler, etc... should probably be left alone, but someone like The Mad Hatter...

You could make a decent story out of him dying, and maybe Batman having a poignant tragic moment over failing to save the villain from a demise of his own doing this time.

For me, the Mad Hatter is a poor man's Riddler, and a poor man's Scarecrow, with a just a touch of zaniness (which, of course, can't compare to the Joker's zaniness), all poured into one. So, basically, there's nothing that the Mad Hatter brings to the table that one or another Batman villain can't also bring to the table. So... I wouldn't mind him being killed off.

Yeah I can't beleive he's still around.. and somewhat popular. He has no power and is very weak. The whole hat thing is old. He's only cool as a one-off old batman tv series villain... but an ongoing threat? c'mon

[foxley]

Yeah I can't beleive he's still around.. and somewhat popular. He has no power and is very weak. The whole hat thing is old. He's only cool as a one-off old batman tv series villain... but an ongoing threat? c'mon



The Mad Hatter is a master of mind control technology. That makes him a far more subtle and sinister threat than mere bruisers like Croc or Bane (not that I want to see them killed off either).

[Rabid Trekkie]

Yeah I can't beleive he's still around.. and somewhat popular. He has no power and is very weak. The whole hat thing is old. He's only cool as a one-off old batman tv series villain... but an ongoing threat? c'mon

I don't know, BTAS had some cool episodes with him. He should be one of those villains who is just in Arkham until a good story comes along.

Also Mad Hatter is one of the few geek villains. I mean he can't stand up physically against anyone, he has to rely on being smarter and more sneaky than his opponent. And there's something kind of creepy about a guy who can take over your mind, not to mention the problem of beating up thugs who are also hostages.