All-Star Batman 8 & 9

[lukababic]

Number 8 hits the stores in just few days. But here is something to think about for the next three months:

Cover page for the number 9 (http://bp3.blogger.com/_j00PDhcWMlE/R0Trs66mBbI/AAAAAAAAAns/2nj-KPH-BQ0/s1600-h/Batman+Robin+9+cover+sm.jpg)

Homage to Jack Burnley.

Written by Frank Miller
Art and cover by Jim Lee & Scott Williams
Variant cover by Neal Adams

The Dynamic Duo: yellow-bellied? Green Lantern tries to convince Batman & Robin to fall in line, but the pair takes him to school…in color theory!

On sale February 27.

UPDATE:
Variant cover for ASBR8 by Neal Adams can be found here (http://bp3.blogger.com/_DTQNyHIqsec/RzNiTDvGnMI/AAAAAAAABHo/7D7qh4kyra4/s1600-h/asbatman8.jpg). Kookie :)

Will Robin actually appear for more than two pages in issues to follow? Green Lantern negotiates with the Bat? Where do Supes and WW fit in these two issues?

Just bang yourself on the head with the Bioshock wrench and don't come out of the self-inflicted coma for the next couple of months so you can spare yourself from the long wait and possible delays. Don't forget to tattoo "Wake me up when #9 comes out" on your forehead!

[Tom-El]

That's a very nice cover and THE ONLY REASON to buy this comic.

Can you imagine how much better this book would've been if written by someone who cares about the characters and the medium?

I shudder to think about what Miller is doing to The Spirit on film.

Tom

[pariah-1972]

Number 8 hits the stores in just few days. But here is something to think about for the next three months:

Cover page for the number 9 (http://bp3.blogger.com/_j00PDhcWMlE/R0Trs66mBbI/AAAAAAAAAns/2nj-KPH-BQ0/s1600-h/Batman+Robin+9+cover+sm.jpg)

Homage to Jack Burnley.

Written by Frank Miller
Art and cover by Jim Lee & Scott Williams
Variant cover by Neal Adams

The Dynamic Duo: yellow-bellied? Green Lantern tries to convince Batman & Robin to fall in line, but the pair takes him to school…in color theory!

On sale February 27.

Will Robin actually appear for more than two pages in issues to follow? Green Lantern negotiates with the Bat? Where do Supes and WW fit in these two issues?

Just bang yourself on the head with the Bioshock wrench and don't come out of the self-inflicted coma for the next couple of months so you can spare yourself from the long wait and possible delays. Don't forget to tattoo "Wake me up when #9 comes out" on your forehead! I'm confused
You say its coming to the stores in a couple of days and then you said we will have to wait three months.
do you have a crystal ball? if so can i borrow it?;)

[Sean Whitmore]

I'm confused
You say its coming to the stores in a couple of days and then you said we will have to wait three months.

8's coming out in a couple days, but 9 is still a few months away.


SEAN

[pariah-1972]

8's coming out in a couple days, but 9 is still a few months away.


SEANYou people sure seem confidant that it is going to come out on time...

[Sean Whitmore]

Can you imagine how much better this book would've been if written by someone who cares about the characters and the medium?

You don't like it ≠ Writer doesn't care


SEAN

[Sean Whitmore]

You people sure seem confidant that it is going to come out on time...

Oh, I don't know that it will, I'm just clarifying what the thread-starter said.


SEAN

[Paul Dee]

You people sure seem confidant that it is going to come out on time...


The last few issues have been on time. Considering the big delay where nothing came out for a year or whatever was to give Jim Lee time to catch up it seems fair to assume he's on top of things once more and back on a regular schedule.

[the goddamn batman]

It's not like he's doing Wildcats anymore either.

[the goddamn batman]

That's a very nice cover and THE ONLY REASON to buy this comic.

Can you imagine how much better this book would've been if written by someone who cares about the characters and the medium?

I shudder to think about what Miller is doing to The Spirit on film.

Tom

You know, this book really isn't as far off the mark as people like to pretend it is. Go read Year One again, and you'll see, that while Miller is certainly having more fun here, it's pretty much the same character in the same world.

from "Love chunks" to Batman laughing like a maniac, it's all there.

The real problem is that Jim's art doesn't lend itself to the story Miller's telling. But commenting about Miller's lack of care for characters and the medium is just as ridiculous as it's been every time someone decides they know what Miller's thinking. But I know, comic fans have amazing insights to the thought process of people they've never met or spoken to.

Happy thanksgiving.:)

[Captain Jim]

The real problem is that Jim's art doesn't lend itself to the story Miller's telling.

I've often thought that's part of the problem.

[pariah-1972]

So who do you guys think would be better suited to Franks writing? the people who he usually works with??

[Punch]

That's a very nice cover and THE ONLY REASON to buy this comic.

Can you imagine how much better this book would've been if written by someone who cares about the characters and the medium?

I shudder to think about what Miller is doing to The Spirit on film.

Tom

That's a really ignorant comment. Miller is one of the few comic creators who absolutely doesn't need to ever do comics again, and yet he still does. Why is that? Do you really think comics pay more than film?

[RowdyRodimus]

I actually like this title, with the exception of the art. I just don't care for Jim Lee's work. I know he is great, but his stuff just doesn't do anything for me. (Then again, I believe that Jack Kirby is overrated in comicdom. So don't use my art prefernces as a guide.)

[mindcrime]

I actually like this title, with the exception of the art. I just don't care for Jim Lee's work. I know he is great, but his stuff just doesn't do anything for me. (Then again, I believe that Jack Kirby is overrated in comicdom. So don't use my art prefernces as a guide.)




thats funny. the only reason i get this book is for jim lee's art.
frank miller's writing is just 2 over the top.

[Captain Jim]

thats funny. the only reason i get this book is for jim lee's art.
frank miller's writing is just 2 over the top.

Which simply illustrates how Lee's art is wrong for the story that Miller is telling.

Who would be a better artist for this story? Well, Frank Miller, for one. But I realize that would doubtless make the book even later.

[lukababic]

I learned that personal tastes are not a good topic for discussion. Lets just stick to the fact that someone likes it, someone doesn't, and almost everyone like the art.

Do you think that ASBR would be better if Miller did the story and the pencils? Or if the Loeb did the story? I personally think that this kind of wacky over the top badass version of Batman is quite refreshing. In the new JLA he works with like 50 other superheroes and plays somewhat of an instructor role, and not to mention in the new Catwoman where he gets all mushy when he visits Selina's baby? I always saw him as demented one-man avenger psychopath. A man who witnessed his parents murdered, has a split personality and dresses in bat costume? He is something like more demented version of Rorschah from Watchmen, but with more muscles an money. Sociopath. He cant be in JLA with 50 other people, nor be Selina's love or her baby's father. So when he bangs Black Canary on the pavement, curses all the time and beats the shit out of street thugs... it seems more plausible.

Although i like the title very much, i think Miller should left batgirl out of the story. He's Batman not a babysitter, Robin is already too much of a burden.

[The Batman]

Which simply illustrates how Lee's art is wrong for the story that Miller is telling.

Who would be a better artist for this story? Well, Frank Miller, for one. But I realize that would doubtless make the book even later.

For kicks, I'd love to see Mazzuchilli drawing ASB&RTBW.

Didn't Miller say that part of his approach to this was trying to play to Jim Lee's strengths? Hence, that lingerie shot of Vicky Vale among other things. With a different partner, we might'v not just gotten a different set of visuals but perhaps a different story altogether.

I agree though that Miller should've probably draw this.

[king911]

so im getting the impression that many people have a problem with ASBR? I actually love it

[king911]

is #9 the last one?

[Paul Dee]

So who do you guys think would be better suited to Franks writing?


Frank Miller.

[Ramiel]

is #9 the last one?

No, it's an ongoing series. Unless it gets canceled but with the strong sales it's enjoying that's unlikely

[king911]

No, it's an ongoing series. Unless it gets canceled but with the strong sales it's enjoying that's unlikely
Oh, on ign.com the review for #7 said that 9 was the last one


from IGN
We're on the seventh out of what is apparently only going to be nine issues, so I'd really think we should be seeing more of Dick Grayson's journey towards becoming Robin

source-http://comics.ign.com/articles/823/823309p1.html

[Ramiel]

Oh, on ign.com the review for #7 said that 9 was the last one


from IGN


source-http://comics.ign.com/articles/823/823309p1.html

That's the first I've heard of it, I thought this series was always meant to be an ongoing, not a limited series. Maybe they were just talking about the current story arc. Since DC's website and solicitations say nothing about it being the final issue

[king911]

i hope it isnt the end, i like it, while in the minority

[pariah-1972]

I'm not an expert on Frank Miller by any means but he doesn't have one single art style does he?

[mattx110]

I'm not an expert on Frank Miller by any means but he doesn't have one single art style does he?
Even if they need to get rid of the words, DC should find some way to publish his Batman in the Middle East work. The couple pages he showed are the best work I've seen from him in years.

And he definitely cares about comics. If there is one thing I can guarantee without asking him directly, it's that he cares about comics.

[pariah-1972]

Even if they need to get rid of the words, DC should find some way to publish his Batman in the Middle East work. The couple pages he showed are the best work I've seen from him in years.

And he definitely cares about comics. If there is one thing I can guarantee without asking him directly, it's that he cares about comics.So dc got skittish about "holy terror batman?"

[Captain Jim]

is #9 the last one?

Hardly; it's the first issue of a new arc.

[mattx110]

So dc got skittish about "holy terror batman?"
I don't know. I'm not sure if he ever told DC he was working on it. Either way, I'd like to see it. Maybe Miller just got busy with the whole directing a feature film thing.

[Captain Jim]

Really don't want to get off topic here, but there's no indication DC ever okayed the Holy Terror project in the first place. To my knowledge, they've never mentioned it.

[the goddamn batman]

Well, Miller's certanly busy directing the Spirit... and maybe Sin City 2 is somewhat happening?

But no, DC neverr condoned Holy Terror, nor did they ask Miller to do it, he jsut sort of did it on his own. I believe there's been some issue with DC even wanting to publish it. Which is understandable.

[pariah-1972]

I'm disapointed really but it does go to show that DC tend to treat there a list characters with kid gloves most of the time.

[Ramiel]

I'm disapointed really but it does go to show that DC tend to treat there a list characters with kid gloves most of the time.

Have you read All Star Batman?

[GRANT!]

Really don't want to get off topic here, but there's no indication DC ever okayed the Holy Terror project in the first place. To my knowledge, they've never mentioned it.

It is weird because Miller is the only one who talked about it. But I'd find it hard to believe he would draw 100 something pages of a book of a character he doesn't own without getting some sort go ahead by DC. Maybe they are just waiting to see it finished.

Also it's been mentioned in major media outlets if it was never okayed I think they'd probably put some effort to deny it.

[Captain Jim]

It is weird because Miller is the only one who talked about it. But I'd find it hard to believe he would draw 100 something pages of a book of a character he doesn't own without getting some sort go ahead by DC.

Oh, I don't know. I could see Miller just assuming that DC would okay it because, after all, he's Frank Miller.

Also it's been mentioned in major media outlets if it was never okayed I think they'd probably put some effort to deny it.

Not necessarily. They obviously want to maintain a good relationship with Miller and aren't going to do anything to embarrass him in the press.

[Kid Kyoto]

Oh, I don't know. I could see Miller just assuming that DC would okay it because, after all, he's Frank Miller.



Not necessarily. They obviously want to maintain a good relationship with Miller and aren't going to do anything to embarrass him in the press.

They may also have treated it as a trial balloon to see if people liked the idea/disliked it/didn't care.

[pariah-1972]

Have you read All Star Batman?That is a glaring exception to the rule but you have to wonder If Marvel would have made it an out of continuity story like DC did.
just look at how they have tarnished Iron Mans long career of heroism or making Spider-man reveal his secret identity to the world.

[GRANT!]

Oh, I don't know. I could see Miller just assuming that DC would okay it because, after all, he's Frank Miller.



Not necessarily. They obviously want to maintain a good relationship with Miller and aren't going to do anything to embarrass him in the press.

I feel like he wouldn't go forward with it unless he got some sort payment in advance though. Most comic artists don't start something unless they know they are getting paid or it's a creator owned book. Especially a 200 page book.

I mean why would he invest his time in this versus another Sin City story or another project?

[The Batman]

^^^

Because he was either really itching to tell this story, assumed that DC would accept it regardless because he's Frank Miller, or some combination of the two. Just because we haven't heard alot of official stuff from DC on this doesn't mean that it's dead or that it was never okayed. I mean, they might just not want to hype this until they know it's ready to do, especially with Miller being increasingly involved with Hollywood.

I mean, why hype something now, when it might not be ready for a couple of years?

Does anyone know if the few images we've seen of this are still kicking around?

[lukababic]

Update:
Variant cover for ASBR8 by Neal Adams can be found here (http://bp3.blogger.com/_DTQNyHIqsec/RzNiTDvGnMI/AAAAAAAABHo/7D7qh4kyra4/s1600-h/asbatman8.jpg).

Kookie :)

[pariah-1972]

Update:
Variant cover for ASBR8 by Neal Adams can be found here (http://bp3.blogger.com/_DTQNyHIqsec/RzNiTDvGnMI/AAAAAAAABHo/7D7qh4kyra4/s1600-h/asbatman8.jpg).

Kookie :)Thanks luka i don't know who or what he is but DAYUM that looks awesome.

[metalhead_dave743]

Comics Journalist Cliff Biggers said something about that DC should just reprint ASB/R with blank word balloons and let readers create their own scripts and that would be the only way it could be good.

Anybody up for doing that? You think you could make a good Batman story out of just Lee's art and what he's drawn?

[pariah-1972]

Comics Journalist Cliff Biggers said something about that DC should just reprint ASB/R with blank word balloons and let readers create their own scripts and that would be the only way it could be good.

Anybody up for doing that? You think you could make a good Batman story out of just Lee's art and what he's drawn?I think its a good idea mainly for laughs, but i don't know if it would make it better per se.

[Punch]

Comics Journalist Cliff Biggers said something about that DC should just reprint ASB/R with blank word balloons and let readers create their own scripts and that would be the only way it could be good.

Anybody up for doing that? You think you could make a good Batman story out of just Lee's art and what he's drawn?
Nah,the writing is what makes the book great. Jim Lee is OK, but Frank Miller is what makes the book interesting. Without him it'd be just another superficial Bat book.