Asexual characters in Marvel

[Kage Kisaragi]

I might be using the term wrong to describe what im looking for. Yet I don't think celibacy actually defines the idea either.

On another thread, I kind of brought up the idea that it might be better for a character to just be asexual as oppose to another posters idea that it would be great that the character in question also come out as being gay. I don't mind peoples sexual orientation but how about the 4th option, how about the character just being Asexual "not sexuality attracted at all." someone then brought up the notion that there are tons of asexual characters in the Marvel universe.. However in the way im thinking I cannot think of one.

By the way im thinking I mean characters who are not asexual because they are deformed or are ugly in the eyes of would be love interest but because they themselves don't actual care for sexual relations whether it be homo, heteor or bi.

So can anyone help me start a list of characters (preferably regulated to actual earth based characters, since we assume earth based characters are the ones who come from a society with a 2 sided what ones sexual preference is, with the exception of those who might sit on the fence inbetween.)

List of Characters thus Far

Mister Sinister: The Geneticist Specialist who has been around for ages. (Status: Possibly Asexual)
Mad Thinker: (Status: Possibily Asexual)
Red Ghost: (Status: Possibily Asexual)
Ultimate Vision: (Status: Asexual)
Turner D. Century: (Status: Possibily Asexual)
The Walrus: (Status: Possibily Asexual)
Beth Sooner: (Status: Possibily Asexual)
Ezekiel: (Status: Possibily Asexual)
Big Wheel (Status: Possibily Asexual)
Arnim Zola: (Status: Possibily Asexual)
Warrior Woman (Status: Possibily Asexual)

[Madison Carter]

In his current state, I doubt Man-Thing really cares much about knocking boots with anything.

[Monty_Cristo]

In his current state, I doubt Man-Thing really cares much about knocking boots with anything.

that goes against his disfigurement rule. Man-Thing can't have sex. he's talking about characters who have chosen asexuality. my choice would be Mister Sinister. he's quite capable of shagging someone. he's just not interested.

[Enigmanaut]

that goes against his disfigurement rule. Man-Thing can't have sex. he's talking about characters who have chosen asexuality. my choice would be Mister Sinister. he's quite capable of shagging someone. he's just not interested.

Maybe he just hasn't found the right guy yet.

...what? C'mon, he's totally gay. Look at that outfit!

[HeckBoy]

I guess Wong would be in consideration.

[Kage Kisaragi]

Okay so we possibly have Wong.
Didn't Mister Sinister have a family before they were killed or something?

[Monty_Cristo]

Okay so we possibly have Wong.
Didn't Mister Sinister have a family before they were killed or something?

everyone had a family in that time period. you were looked at funny if you didn't. besides their sickly son, there was no proof that Nathaniel and his wife were getting it on. he's been married to his work for decades. i could see him being philisophically asexual; if not physically. can you imagine him thinking about how hot some woman or guy is?

[Joey Deadcat]

Okay so we possibly have Wong.
Didn't Mister Sinister have a family before they were killed or something?

Isn't Wong supposed to have some pre-arranged marriage going on?

[jmc247]

Galactus seems asexual.

[Aaron Kashtan]

Wong is clearly not asexual. Like Joey mentions, during the Roger Stern run, it was revealed that he was engaged to a woman named Imei Chang. (Creepily enough, the engagement was made before she was born or even conceived.) And the reason this came up was because Wong and Sara, Dr. Strange's secretary, were falling for each other.

[Kage Kisaragi]

everyone had a family in that time period. you were looked at funny if you didn't. besides their sickly son, there was no proof that Nathaniel and his wife were getting it on. he's been married to his work for decades. i could see him being philisophically asexual; if not physically. can you imagine him thinking about how hot some woman or guy is?

You're absolutely right, i'll add him to the list.
Okay removing Wong.. is it me or am I getting the feeling people don't like the idea of asexual characters in comics.. predominately on marvel earth.

[Nefarius]

Dr doom.After his accident,he cares about world domination and not sexual pleasures.Beside that,he resisted Enchantress charm during Secret Wars.No man can resist this.:D

[Kage Kisaragi]

Yet doesn't he have a thing for Susan Storm Richards?

[pariah-1972]

I guess cosmic characters are off limits?
the watches always seemed asexual to me..

[Joey Deadcat]

Galactus seems asexual.

Thankfully! Imagine if he didn't require sustenance!

"GALACTUS CRAVES... LOVE!"

[Harold of the Rocks]

Not so sure about Doom being interested in Sue. But I surely haven't read everything about Doom. I think his obsession with world domination, power, and humiliating Reed has been his mistress for some time. I kind of consider him asexual by choice for some time now. Perhaps someone can demonstrate differently.

What about Mad Thinker? Anyone serious about attracting anyone on either side of the fence would not wear that hair or green jumpsuit.

High Evolutionary? He's human (originally), right?

I keep trying to come up with mad scientist types who are 'married' to their work. Dudes with smoldering assistants who drape themselves in front of them, yet they are oblivious to the situation. Or guys like the professor on Gilligan's Island. Ginger could practically disrobe in front of him, and he's still be pondering on how to use coconuts for a power source.

Anyway, I'm sure there are other examples in this 'vein'. I don't believe I've ever seen any character 'declare their asexuality' before, though.

Happy Thanksgiving to all who celebrate it. Why the hell I am posting on this message board instead of sleeping right now, saving all my energy for eating and napping is beyond me... ;)

[FortKnox]

The Venom/Carnage symbiotes are asexual.

[Rahul]

MODOK.


I mean really, how can it not be?

[Harold of the Rocks]

MODOK.


I mean really, how can it not be?http://www.theartofdylan.com/msmodok.jpg

...That's how. ;)

[Xris]

what about forge??... i dont think he has ever had a love interest

[Kage Kisaragi]

what about forge??... i dont think he has ever had a love interest

Forge? You're joking right?

MODOK kind of falls under the deformity act. Also I'm not sure about in the comics but I remember some old marvel animation where someone chick used their femimine wiles on him or someone who looked a lot like him to nearly get around him or manipulate him.

Dr Doom. I remember there being a girlfriend for the guy, who was then killed someone? Wasn't there a Ms Doom or something... Still, I guess we can consider him but I wish we had a real fantastic four officinado to answer this question. I'll add Doom for the time being because it'd be nice to have a major celeb on the list.

[Lorendiac]

In an old story, in an annual (FF, maybe?) around the early 1990s, Kubik (a "highly evolved Cosmic Cube") was giving a briefing on the fundamental structure of the universe (or some such thing) to "Kosmos," a feminine entity who was the result of a merger of The Beyonder and Molecule Man. As I recall (when I haven't read this story in ages) Kubik asked about "Kosmos" manifesting in a feminine form, and "Kosmos" claimed to feel that previous mistakes had been exacerbated by the Beyonder's manifesting in a masculine form (during the "Secret Wars II" miniseries), and Kubik said firmly something along these lines: "Personally, I have long since renounced gender entirely."

So Kubik could easily live in a constructed form with masculine (or feminine) organs, hormones, etc., but deliberately chooses not to bother with any of that primitive nonsense. Kubik (as a Cosmic Cube) had been stuck on Earth for awhile -- and the Cube had originally been stated to be created by AIM, although a later retcon revealed it was a lot more complicated than that. Does that qualify as an "Earth-based" character even though we later found out the origins of the Cube could be traced back to the rest of the Beyonders? (Been a long time since I read any of the relevant stories.)

[TotalWorldDomination]

I would'nt put doom in the non-sexual or a-sexual collumn. Books of doom showed him and his true lady love together for some time... before she betrayed him. and sure he killed her later and used her skin for less then happy purposes, but golly, he sure was'nt a-sexual with her.

[Push You Down]

what about forge??... i dont think he has ever had a love interest

Storm and Mystique look curiously your way.

[Monty_Cristo]

Not so sure about Doom being interested in Sue. But I surely haven't read everything about Doom. I think his obsession with world domination, power, and humiliating Reed has been his mistress for some time. I kind of consider him asexual by choice for some time now. Perhaps someone can demonstrate differently.


a Doom fan could tell you better but i think it's canon that Doom routinely ventures down into the village, picks a woman, and has sex with her. you'll have to ask the poster Iron Maiden.

[Kage Kisaragi]

In an old story, in an annual (FF, maybe?) around the early 1990s, Kubik (a "highly evolved Cosmic Cube") was giving a briefing on the fundamental structure of the universe (or some such thing) to "Kosmos," a feminine entity who was the result of a merger of The Beyonder and Molecule Man. As I recall (when I haven't read this story in ages) Kubik asked about "Kosmos" manifesting in a feminine form, and "Kosmos" claimed to feel that previous mistakes had been exacerbated by the Beyonder's manifesting in a masculine form (during the "Secret Wars II" miniseries), and Kubik said firmly something along these lines: "Personally, I have long since renounced gender entirely."

So Kubik could easily live in a constructed form with masculine (or feminine) organs, hormones, etc., but deliberately chooses not to bother with any of that primitive nonsense. Kubik (as a Cosmic Cube) had been stuck on Earth for awhile -- and the Cube had originally been stated to be created by AIM, although a later retcon revealed it was a lot more complicated than that. Does that qualify as an "Earth-based" character even though we later found out the origins of the Cube could be traced back to the rest of the Beyonders? (Been a long time since I read any of the relevant stories.)

Uh... i have no idea what you just said but sure I dont see why not after that explaination. :)
So Doom gets the boot? ... apparently this supposed lot of asexuals in marvel isn't that big after all.

[pariah-1972]

Is the Vision still asexual now after Byrnes reboot?

[Kage Kisaragi]

Asexuality is a sexual orientation[1] describing individuals who do not experience sexual attraction.[2] Asexuality as a human sexual orientation has only been recognized and defined in a few academic studies since the 1980s, and a community of self-identified asexuals has only coalesced since the start of the 21st century, aided by the widening popularity of online communities.[2] Studies have placed the incidence rate of asexuality at 1%.[3]

Note that asexuality is not the same as celibacy, which is the deliberate abstention from sexual activity; many asexuals do have sex,[4] and most celibates are not asexual.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asexual

I should have posted this earlier but this idea im thinking about when it comes to this list.

[Nefarius]

a Doom fan could tell you better but i think it's canon that Doom routinely ventures down into the village, picks a woman, and has sex with her. you'll have to ask the poster Iron Maiden.

I thought that was non-canon,but it looks that there is a dispute about this.Anyway,Doom has some asexual traits(especially after his deformation).And beside that,he has such an ego that every other human being is inferior to Doom.So,i could call him more an asexual by choice.

[Madison Carter]

So Kubik could easily live in a constructed form with masculine (or feminine) organs, hormones, etc., but deliberately chooses not to bother with any of that primitive nonsense. Kubik (as a Cosmic Cube) had been stuck on Earth for awhile -- and the Cube had originally been stated to be created by AIM, although a later retcon revealed it was a lot more complicated than that. Does that qualify as an "Earth-based" character even though we later found out the origins of the Cube could be traced back to the rest of the Beyonders? (Been a long time since I read any of the relevant stories.)

Even if that one counted, it wouldn't count. In a later story, Kubik pleaded with Molecule Man not to kill the Beyonder aspect of Kosmos and restore it back to her so she could live. Molecule Man realized that Kubik loved her (Kosmos) and did so, regretting his own lost love.

[Lorendiac]

Even if that one counted, it wouldn't count. In a later story, Kubik pleaded with Molecule Man not to kill the Beyonder aspect of Kosmos and restore it back to her so she could live. Molecule Man realized that Kubik loved her (Kosmos) and did so, regretting his own lost love.

I had no idea. I think the old story I mentioned was the last time I personally had seen anything of Kubik, or Kosmos, or Molecule Man, or The Beyonder. Do you happen to remember approximately when, and in what title, this other thing happened? You've got me curious now!

[Lorendiac]

a Doom fan could tell you better but i think it's canon that Doom routinely ventures down into the village, picks a woman, and has sex with her. you'll have to ask the poster Iron Maiden.

I don't remember this one, offhand. Is it "canon" in the sense that several different writers have all referred to it over the years, or is it "canon" in the sense that one writer mentioned it, once upon a time, and nobody else has bothered to Officially Retcon it -- they just totally ignore the idea in all subsequent Doctor Doom stories? :confused:

[Somebody]

everyone had a family in that time period. you were looked at funny if you didn't. besides their sickly son, there was no proof that Nathaniel and his wife were getting it on. he's been married to his work for decades. i could see him being philisophically asexual; if not physically. can you imagine him thinking about how hot some woman or guy is?
Essex loved his wife - that's one of the major reasons he asked to be turned into Sinister, so that he wouldn't feel the pain of her rejection of him and death (the other being that he didn't want any pesky morals getting in the way of his Work - becoming superhuman, if it was a part of it, was some way down the list below his "industrial revolution of the mind"). And even after he was remade, he had enough lingering nostalgia to keep his locket picture of her around for a couple of decades.


Is the Vision still asexual now after Byrnes reboot?
Vision's dead. The Young Avengers Vision is a legacy character (and VisionBoy has a major crush on Stature - and is a shapeshifter, so the physical aspects of it wouldn't be a problem)

Before his death though, Vision'd been "fully functional" again since being swapped into AntiVision's body, and his emotions started coming back around the same time, as a delayed effect from getting Alex Lipton's brain patterns (I forget if it was before or after the bodyswap).

[Kage Kisaragi]

I'm assuming that being Asexual doesn't mean you can't love, but you don't feel a sexual attraction toward another. A man or woman who still loves his friends and family but isn't sexual attracted to either sex I believe falls under Asexual.

So I'm assuming there are some characters who do indeed love/like people but arent sexually attracted to anyone.

[Brickbatstone]

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[Mississippienne]

There is indeed an old, old FF story in which we see Doom selecting a random peasant girl to "attend to him" or words to that effect. Of course, Doom didn't even seem to notice that the girl wasn't jumping for joy at the "honor". There's also his dinners with Silver Sable, and if he ain't tappin' that, he's a damned fool. That's all I'm gonna say.

[Your Imaginary Pal]

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him being with anyone would be a time anomaly, the universe might explode, or he'd wind up being his own grandfather. But wasn't he with some Shiar chick or something.

How about Apocalypse?

[Mississippienne]

him being with anyone would be a time anomaly, the universe might explode, or he'd wind up being his own grandfather. But wasn't he with some Shiar chick or something.

How about Apocalypse?

Bishop and Deathbird had a thing going, and in an alternate universe had a daughter. I think it was implied for awhile that he was attracted to Sage.

Apocalypse fell in love with Nephri, one of Kang/Rama-Tut's concubines and the sister of Ozymandias. Later he had lots of children with, presumably, concubines of his own. Blink and Chamber are among his descendants.

[pariah-1972]

Bishop had a mad crush on Storm too.

[Lorendiac]

There is indeed an old, old FF story in which we see Doom selecting a random peasant girl to "attend to him" or words to that effect. Of course, Doom didn't even seem to notice that the girl wasn't jumping for joy at the "honor". There's also his dinners with Silver Sable, and if he ain't tappin' that, he's a damned fool. That's all I'm gonna say.

I actually remember the dinners with Silver Sable -- came as a bit of a shock -- but I thought it was made clear at the time that it was just a friendly get-together and not a chance to satisfy some wild romantic passion on a yearly basis?

[foxley]

I actually remember the dinners with Silver Sable -- came as a bit of a shock -- but I thought it was made clear at the time that it was just a friendly get-together and not a chance to satisfy some wild romantic passion on a yearly basis?

Definitely! Doom and Silver Sable were not 'knocking boots'!

[Norrin Radd]

Madrox the Multiple Man. It's hard to get more asexual than that.

[Nefarius]

There's also his dinners with Silver Sable, and if he ain't tappin' that, he's a damned fool. That's all I'm gonna say.


That wasn't real Doom.It was a doppelganger during infinity wars(i think,i'm not sure but i know that it was one of those infinity crossovers).

[Your Imaginary Pal]

Madrox the Multiple Man. It's hard to get more asexual than that.

I hear tell the women call him multiple man for a whole different reason.
giggity goo.

[Madison Carter]

I had no idea. I think the old story I mentioned was the last time I personally had seen anything of Kubik, or Kosmos, or Molecule Man, or The Beyonder. Do you happen to remember approximately when, and in what title, this other thing happened? You've got me curious now!

Back-up story in Fantastic Four Annual #27. It was Kubik and Kosmos' last appearance before Beyonder/Kosmos/Maker showed back up in Giffen's Thanos series.

[Dark Ben]

Madrox the Multiple Man. It's hard to get more asexual than that.

Syrin and M can tell how much his asexual :D

[TF_loki]

Punisher?
Jarvis, maybe.
Baron Strucker.
Mad Thinker.
Red Ghost.
Vulture.
USAgent.


Those are ones where I can't remember any stories having a romantic element.

MODOK had MODAM and Monica Rappeleleleleleleleleinci at some point. Dude's a PLAYA!:D

[Kage Kisaragi]

Punisher?
Jarvis, maybe.
Baron Strucker.
Mad Thinker.
Red Ghost.
Vulture.
USAgent.


Those are ones where I can't remember any stories having a romantic element.

MODOK had MODAM and Monica Rappeleleleleleleleleinci at some point. Dude's a PLAYA!:D

now were getting somewhere, but i thought i remember reading a bio page that said vulture had grand children

[Madison Carter]

Punisher?
Jarvis, maybe.
Baron Strucker.
Mad Thinker.
Red Ghost.
Vulture.
USAgent.

It's a cross-company crossover, but Punisher had sex with Painkiller Jain on the condition she stop stalking him and leave him alone forever.

Jarvis had a girlfriend for years - http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix2/garsenglory.htm

Strucker's got two kids, and think there was something alluded to him and some of the Hydra super agents in the Von Strucker Gambit annuals x-over.

[Joey Deadcat]

It's a cross-company crossover, but Punisher had sex with Painkiller Jain on the condition she stop stalking him and leave him alone forever.

Jarvis had a girlfriend for years - http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix2/garsenglory.htm

Strucker's got two kids, and think there was something alluded to him and some of the Hydra super agents in the Von Strucker Gambit annuals x-over.

Frank Castle's been getting laid in his MAX series as well.

[Mississippienne]

The Vulture has at least two kids -- a daughter named Valeria (Identity Disc) and a son who has a child of his own who is dying from cancer.

[foxley]

And Baron Strucker has at least three kids.

Of ciurse, he may have been assexual since he was resurrected as a living host for the Death Spore virus.

[jackolover]

The Vulture was shaked up with a girl friend in the First New Avengers arc.

Spoiler warning on Ultimate Vision






The Ultimate Vision doesn't seem to react to Ultimate Falcons attentions, but she did take the key to his apartment while she has to crash somewhere for a month. And Vision does have hopes of recieving the emotional state of the other little andriod, (whose name escapes me), so she can feel emotions, because right now all she can do is descibe them

[Kage Kisaragi]

list updated, thanks for the new names.

[Harold of the Rocks]

I would'nt put doom in the non-sexual or a-sexual collumn. Books of doom showed him and his true lady love together for some time... before she betrayed him. and sure he killed her later and used her skin for less then happy purposes, but golly, he sure was'nt a-sexual with her.I was well aware of Books of Doom when I responded. I guess I am saying "based on recent history" asexual. Again, kind of a "workaholic, no time for sex" type asexual.

a Doom fan could tell you better but i think it's canon that Doom routinely ventures down into the village, picks a woman, and has sex with her. you'll have to ask the poster Iron Maiden.
That's why I asked... ;)

I thought that was non-canon,but it looks that there is a dispute about this. Anyway, Doom has some asexual traits (especially after his deformation). And beside that,he has such an ego that every other human being is inferior to Doom. So, I could call him more an asexual by choice.That's where I was going.

There is indeed an old, old FF story in which we see Doom selecting a random peasant girl to "attend to him" or words to that effect. Of course, Doom didn't even seem to notice that the girl wasn't jumping for joy at the "honor". There's also his dinners with Silver Sable, and if he ain't tappin' that, he's a damned fool. That's all I'm gonna say.damned fool... or asexual! ;)


The Vulture was shacked up with a girl friend in the First New Avengers arc.Sure you ain't talkin' about Electro?

And isn't Kubik a cosmic, non-human character? I thought those don't (or shouldn't) count.

What about The High Evolutionary?
Turner D. Century?
The Walrus?
Beth Sooner?
Ezekiel?
Stingray?
Big Wheel?
Arnim Zola?
Warrior Woman?

[RolandJP]

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u102/NoPrize/father_hulk-2.jpg

[Brickbatstone]

well the entire race of the badoon are asexual

also, aurora may be a skank but her jean-marie persona is asexual

[Brickbatstone]

i dont see how sinister is asexual if he had a wife and a child. he even said he found his wife to be beautiful...well he used the word 'handsome' but still\

as for the USAgent, he had a thing for spider-woman in the old avengers west coast series

[Harold of the Rocks]

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u102/NoPrize/father_hulk-2.jpgSo, Hulk is a pedophile? And the Comics Code Authority is headed by church leadership?

[RolandJP]

So, Hulk is a pedophile? And the Comics Code Authority is headed by church leadership?
you cant talk about the HULK like that! HE IS A SAINT!!!

[pariah-1972]

Doom also used to have a crush on Storm and was very romantic and gentlemanly to her in their first encounter.

[Monty_Cristo]

i dont see how sinister is asexual if he had a wife and a child. he even said he found his wife to be beautiful...well he used the word 'handsome' but still\

it's quite simple. being asexual doesn't take away your ability to recognize beauty. it's relative only to sexual attraction. and many asexuals do have sex (to start families, to keep up appearances, etc). in Essex's time period, it would be strange for a healthy male not to find a wife and start a family. he and his wife were not close. he just considered her beautiful; suitable for breeding. and, given his interest in genetics, it's not that strange for him to have wanted a child.


Doom also used to have a crush on Storm and was very romantic and gentlemanly to her in their first encounter.

confirmed as a Doombot.


And Baron Strucker has at least three kids.

Of ciurse, he may have been assexual since he was resurrected as a living host for the Death Spore virus.

but that wouldn't make him asexual-by-choice. Strucker actually had a very bad reputation for being a sex addict. i think it was Zemo who talked about his sex parties (Strucker's wife is a nympho-swinger too). i think the context was that Zemo's father didn't respect the Struckers because of it.

[pariah-1972]

confirmed as a Doombot.Yeah i remember Byrne retconning that out but i thought about it and it doesn't make sense, why would a robot be attracted to Storm and try to romance her unless he was programmed to or he was copying what Doom might do?
:confused:

[Monty_Cristo]

confirmed as a Doombot.Yeah i remember Byrne retconning that out but i thought about it and it doesn't make sense, why would a robot be attracted to Storm and try to romance her unless he was programmed to or he was copying what Doom might do?
:confused:

Storm's an attractive woman. Doom's a straight male (supposedly). the malfunction was that the robot wasn't as proud as Doom; so proud that he wouldn't lower himself to hit on an enemy.

[pariah-1972]

Storm's an attractive woman. Doom's a straight male (supposedly). the malfunction was that the robot wasn't as proud as Doom; so proud that he wouldn't lower himself to hit on an enemy.but he didn't lower himself tho.. unless you consider him being nice and romantical to her as lowering himself even tho she was never his enemy and they have gotten along pretty well since then right?

[foxley]

What about The High Evolutionary?
Turner D. Century?
The Walrus?
Beth Sooner?
Ezekiel?
Stingray?
Big Wheel?
Arnim Zola?
Warrior Woman?[/COLOR]

Stingray is married, has kids and, from all appearances, loves his wife. No indications that I can see that he is assexual.

Big Wheel has an ex-wife.

[Monty_Cristo]

but he didn't lower himself tho.. unless you consider him being nice and romantical to her as lowering himself even tho she was never his enemy and they have gotten along pretty well since then right?

Doom insulted her race and sex in their last encounter.

[icctrombone]

Galactus seems asexual.


Wasn't Galactus sleeping with Nova ?

[icctrombone]

confirmed as a Doombot.Yeah i remember Byrne retconning that out but i thought about it and it doesn't make sense, why would a robot be attracted to Storm and try to romance her unless he was programmed to or he was copying what Doom might do?
:confused:


Kind of funny that Byrne retconned this story to get back at Claremont.

[ZNOP]

Doom insulted her race and sex in their last encounter.

What? Doom a racist? I will never believe that! B.T.W. what did he say? Any pics?


Wasn't Galactus sleeping with Nova ?

No.

[Mississippienne]

Kind of funny that Byrne retconned this story to get back at Claremont.

I've never heard that! The explanation I've heard was that it was retconned to a Doombot because of Arcade striking a match on Doom's armor; the real Doom would've pulverized him for doing such a thing.

[desanth]

I don't get why you think that just because Doom goes down to the local village and chooses someone to pleasure him that removes him from the asexual list. Although he would not like to admit it, he is human and has certain human urges, that could interfere with his thinking. It could be just like having to eat. I doubt Doom enjoys eating, but Doom must eat to sustain his life! Afterall, I would think that Doom would look upon with disdain any feelings that make him a mere human.

[Madison Carter]

Turner D. Century?
Arnim Zola?

Zola had that Vamp proto-husk running around with him for a while. Dunno if it was implied or not if he had..."plans" for her.

As for Turner, he kept a life-size woman mannequin with him. Granted, it had a bomb in its head, but I'm sure there were a few lonely nights before that...

[Kage Kisaragi]

changed the list a bit, also yes, we are limiting it to earth based beings.

[Aarcee]

I might be using the term wrong to describe what im looking for. Yet I don't think celibacy actually defines the idea either.

On another thread, I kind of brought up the idea that it might be better for a character to just be asexual as oppose to another posters idea that it would be great that the character in question also come out as being gay. I don't mind peoples sexual orientation but how about the 4th option, how about the character just being Asexual "not sexuality attracted at all." someone then brought up the notion that there are tons of asexual characters in the Marvel universe.. However in the way im thinking I cannot think of one.

By the way im thinking I mean characters who are not asexual because they are deformed or are ugly in the eyes of would be love interest but because they themselves don't actual care for sexual relations whether it be homo, heteor or bi.

So can anyone help me start a list of characters (preferably regulated to actual earth based characters, since we assume earth based characters are the ones who come from a society with a 2 sided what ones sexual preference is, with the exception of those who might sit on the fence inbetween.)

List of Characters thus Far

Mister Sinister: The Geneticist Specialist who has been around for ages. (Status: Possibly Asexual)
Mad Thinker: (Status: Possibily Asexual)
Red Ghost: (Status: Possibily Asexual)
Ultimate Vision: (Status: Asexual)
Turner D. Century: (Status: Possibily Asexual)
The Walrus: (Status: Possibily Asexual)
Beth Sooner: (Status: Possibily Asexual)
Ezekiel: (Status: Possibily Asexual)
Big Wheel (Status: Possibily Asexual)
Arnim Zola: (Status: Possibily Asexual)
Warrior Woman (Status: Possibily Asexual)

Well, there's always God.

[Monty_Cristo]

I don't get why you think that just because Doom goes down to the local village and chooses someone to pleasure him that removes him from the asexual list. Although he would not like to admit it, he is human and has certain human urges, that could interfere with his thinking. It could be just like having to eat. I doubt Doom enjoys eating, but Doom must eat to sustain his life! Afterall, I would think that Doom would look upon with disdain any feelings that make him a mere human.

asexuality implies the lack of sexual desire/attraction. the act of going down to the village to pick some poor girl to screw instantly disqualifies him.

[Lorendiac]

Doom also used to have a crush on Storm and was very romantic and gentlemanly to her in their first encounter.

When do you say "very romantic and gentlemanly," do you mean right up until the moment when he hit her with something that turned her into a very decorative metal statue for the next couple of issues?

[Lorendiac]

That wasn't real Doom.It was a doppelganger during infinity wars(i think,i'm not sure but i know that it was one of those infinity crossovers).

It doesn't really matter that it was a doppelganger having that particular dinner with Silver Sable. The key point is that Sable's dialogue in that issue made it clear that these dinners, just her and Doom, had already been a regular tradition for many years at that point. (But it was also made clear that the dinners weren't romantic occasions.)

[Suicide Squad Fan]

Red Ghost: (Status: Possibily Asexual)
Turner D. Century: (Status: Possibily Asexual)


Isn't Turner dead? That'd definitely put him in the "asexual" category.
Red Ghost? Only those gorillas know for sure.... :eek:

How about:
Puppet Master. Granted he has a "Step daughter" so that implies he was married at one point, but still....
Proteus? He's dead too, but since he saw humans more as "food" than mates it's hard to imagine him as a playa.

[Kage Kisaragi]

Isn't Turner dead? That'd definitely put him in the "asexual" category.
Red Ghost? Only those gorillas know for sure.... :eek:

How about:
Puppet Master. Granted he has a "Step daughter" so that implies he was married at one point, but still....
Proteus? He's dead too, but since he saw humans more as "food" than mates it's hard to imagine him as a playa.

Well I've been reading the last couple of issue of Ms Marvel and I think after reading them its a safe bet to say Puppet Master wasn't kidnapping those women and having them obey his every command just for the sake of reproducing, he was definitely in it for the fun and pleasure.

some of the later people I don't really know so well so im going on good faith that the ones people mention are indeed, earth based beings and follow under the defining definition of asexual used for this topic.

[Flâneur]

asexuality implies the lack of sexual desire/attraction.
It doesn't denote the lack of sexual desire at all, it simply denotes the lack of desire for the physical components of another person (or object). Alot of asexual people have a very strong sex drive.

On another note, a large amount of asexual people possess romantic affections for others and enter into relationships which include sex, if only for the sake of retaining a partner. So this is going to be a very very difficult area to determine with a fictional character unless you see them say 'I'm asexual'.

Maybe look at beings who have evolved beyond sex and gender?

[Monty_Cristo]

It doesn't denote the lack of sexual desire at all, it simply denotes the lack of desire for the physical components of another person (or object). Alot of asexual people have a very strong sex drive.


wtf? that's like saying someone who is never hungry has a strong desire for food.

[Enigmanaut]

wtf? that's like saying someone who is never hungry has a strong desire for food.

Not really. It's a simple matter really. An asexual person can have every bit the biological sex drive that a normal person has, get horny, and still have desires... but not really want anyone to be touching them or touching anyone else.

Which makes me think that asexuality isn't so much a sexual orientation as it is a psychological issue with intimacy.

[Monty_Cristo]

Not really. It's a simple matter really. An asexual person can have every bit the biological sex drive that a normal person has, get horny, and still have desires... but not really want anyone to be touching them or touching anyone else.

Which makes me think that asexuality isn't so much a sexual orientation as it is a psychological issue with intimacy.

so we're just looking for frigid characters? i could have sworn that there was biological asexuality; like the lack of sexual desire (period).

[Aarcee]

Galacticus.

[mindcrime]

Galacticus.




can galactus even have sex? oh man, i have a feelin im gonna regret bringing this up.....:eek:

[Madison Carter]

so we're just looking for frigid characters? i could have sworn that there was biological asexuality; like the lack of sexual desire (period).

There are two kinds of asexuality: Choice (a human who decides never to have sex) and nature (a type of organism that reproduces without sex). Both involve not having sex, period. The minute you have sex, you are no longer asexual by definition. Asexual: Of no sex/Without sex.

[jackolover]

Sure you ain't talkin' about Electro?



I stand corrected. It was Electro not Vulture.

[jackolover]

I wouldn't mind the Cheese Cake LMD, from She-Hulk, try to put the moves on that Doombot that was romanticizing Storm.

Doom - 'Kneel before Doom', may take on all sorts of connotations for Cake.

And as they are both robots of sorts, there is the concept of interfacing that has some rather weird asexual relationships

[lunardreams]

The minute you have sex, you are no longer asexual by definition. Asexual: Of no sex/Without sex.
Bull droppings.
I really, really had to join, simply to point out the misinformation in this thread. Oh, and there seems to be some really good comic discussion going on. ;)

But the asexuality thing (in humans)- you can have sex and still be asexual. Asexuality, as was pointed out by somebody else, is simply the lack of sexual attraction. Some asexuals will experiment because that is what society says they're supposed to be, and ignore who they really are. Also, some couples will do the hanky-panky in hopes of attaining offspring ("Lay back and think of England" type concept).

Asexuals can appreciate attractiveness, acknowledge it, but still not be interested in an attractive person in that way. And then, to make things even more confusing, there are the romantic asexuals who seek a romantic relationship with someone, but, still, (and this is what makes them asexual) do not want sex.


so we're just looking for frigid characters?
No. Do I even really need to explain this one, or will someone else prevent this post from getting much longer, unreadable, and insufferable?



Which makes me think that asexuality isn't so much a sexual orientation as it is a psychological issue with intimacy.
That's a rather common opinion, that actually a lot of psychologists believe (though both sexual dysfunctions asexuals are commonly diagnosed with include, in order to be diagnosed- and yet many psychologists ignore this- the 'dysfunction' must cause distress for the individual. Don't believe me? Go look it up in the DSM-IV.)
Do I even need to say why I know this crap? Or care? I'm outing myself. :eek:

So... on topic... sortof...
I think it's kinda funny that since that mess with Betty Ross, I don't think Doc Samson has been shown with anyone in a romantic way. Does he need to go diagnose himself with a sexual dysfunction? :rolleyes: Correct me if I'm wrong, I probably am. Also, I've become so obliviously jaded to that kind of thing in comics simply by reading too many Iron Man comics.