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spidervenom

11-18-2007, 06:20 PM

Just watched the simpsons with alan moore, and I have to say I havent laughed at the simpsons this hard in a long time, well except for the movie. so much hillarious stuff like Watchmen babies in V for vacation, Alan moore turning Radioactive man into a herion addict, his ripping biceps and best of all, him singing and reading Little lulu. God it was awesome.

gunz

11-18-2007, 06:38 PM

agree tottally, that was one of the funnier simpsons in a while. Watchmen Babies was hilarious and one of the best "in" jokes ever. Simpsons should make a deal with moore and have him write a heroin additiced radioactive man with no radioactive powers

J. Robb

11-18-2007, 06:40 PM

Great episode! Alan Moore, like always, does not disappoint. Even the non-comic stuff was entertaining (though Homer's pulled-back flesh was more than a little creepy.)

"Maus in the house!"

ultramandingo

11-18-2007, 07:03 PM

.........jeez , Alan Moore, Art Spiegelman and Dan Clowes on tv - its bizzaro world . i hope jim lee is home , crying on a big pile of dirty nerd money

Thorlief

11-18-2007, 07:13 PM

Alan Moore is a nice chap, and this episode showed how much of a good laugh -even about himself- he can be

Tobias March

11-18-2007, 07:23 PM

Argh! Why is this not on youtube yet!!

StoneGold

11-18-2007, 07:31 PM

Heh, Coolsville is totally Meltdown Comics, a comic store in Hollywood.

http://ronniedelcarmen.com/new_images/meltdownpost.jpg

Loren

11-18-2007, 07:33 PM

While the comic book subplot was great, and the Marge plot wasn't bad, the episode as a whole didn't seem to gel all that well. At the start it seemed like the comic book shop was going to be the main plot, and then it simply disappeared halfway through. It didn't even get referenced in the latter half of the episode, except for the cameos at the end.

Furthermore, nothing got resolved. At episode's end, Comic Book Guy was still out of business. Does this mean that we're only going to see Coolsville and Milo from now on? More importantly, Marge still had her successful gym chain. Is that her new status quo?

Kablammo

11-18-2007, 07:40 PM

At the start it seemed like the comic book shop was going to be the main plot, and then it simply disappeared halfway through. It didn't even get referenced in the latter half of the episode, except for the cameos at the end.

i think this is the format they've been using for a while, right? act one hardly has anything to do with acts two or three, aside from setting them up.

still, a lot of nice in-jokes for comic readers. i wonder if Alan Moore contributed to some of his own dialogue, too. his rant felt really spot on.

StoneGold

11-18-2007, 07:49 PM

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a59/stonegold/WatchmenBabies.jpg

Loren

11-18-2007, 08:09 PM

i think this is the format they've been using for a while, right? act one hardly has anything to do with acts two or three, aside from setting them up.

True, but this one had every indication of being an independent plot. It featured Bart and Milhouse, along with Comic Book Guy, none of whom had anything to do with the latter 2/3 of the episode. It made a major change in status quo to a supporting character, and then never mentioned it again. It, not Marge's story, had the episode's featured guest stars.

J. Robb

11-18-2007, 08:23 PM

It made a major change in status quo to a supporting character, and then never mentioned it again.
Yeah, they could have had Marge quickly say, "I've sold the business...", but we all know things will be back to normal next week anyways. It's the 19th season, I'd say the "reset" scene at the end is pretty optional by now.

But on a similar topic- from the appearance of the Dr. Nick-esque doctor in this episode, I assume they're sticking with Dr. Nick's death at the end of the movie? I suppose I would be okay with that, his "Bye, everybody!" was a perfect way to go.

EmeraldOutlaw

11-18-2007, 09:08 PM

My buddy isn't a comics guy, so I had to explain Alan Moore a little to him. He still didn't get why I was laughing my ass off when he talked about what he had done to Radioactive Man. Awesome.

Sean Whitmore

11-18-2007, 09:20 PM

Sean Whitmore

11-18-2007, 09:25 PM

But on a similar topic- from the appearance of the Dr. Nick-esque doctor in this episode, I assume they're sticking with Dr. Nick's death at the end of the movie? I suppose I would be okay with that, his "Bye, everybody!" was a perfect way to go.

Then again, this plastic surgeon character has been around at least as far back as the episode about Marge's boob job.

SEAN

J. Robb

11-18-2007, 09:42 PM

Watchmen Babies was funny, but that's as much as I can give the whole sequence. I'd almost call it a wasted opportunity, except there was probably never much of an opportunity in references only a tiny percentage of the audience would get in the first place.
Yeah, considering all three writers' obscurity level, I think we should be pretty happy with the jokes we got. Just seeing Alan Moore on the Simpsons was cool enough on its own.

Then again, this plastic surgeon character has been around at least as far back as the episode about Marge's boob job.
You're right, forgot about that.

QuantumCasaba

11-18-2007, 11:47 PM

Just seeing Alan Moore on the Simpsons was cool enough on its own.

Agreed. I was really hoping that the episode would be centered around the opposing comic book stores because it seemed like there could have been a lot of good material there, but overall it did not disappoint.

sisboombah

11-19-2007, 03:27 AM

oh my god, when was this one? which ep? season? is it online?

eti

11-19-2007, 08:07 AM

Best. (http://neekole.com/archives/2007/11/18/why-tonights-simpsons-was-so-awesome/) Episode. (http://cincgreen.blogspot.com/2007/11/husbands-and-knives-simpsons-11-18-2007.html) Ever. (http://www.tvsquad.com/2007/11/18/the-simpsons-husbands-and-knives/)

Cyke

11-19-2007, 08:11 AM

Yeah, the episode as a whole was weak, but it did start really strong.

Oh, I never would have thought Alan Moore had such a steady singing voice. I would so definitely read Alan Moore on Radioactive Man. AND V for Vacation.

Thorlief

11-19-2007, 08:13 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeVOAOIYt6Y&locale=en_US&persist_locale=1

lol, this is a good chunk. I agree with Cyke, Alan's got such a deep voice -and awesome accent as well-

League of Extraordinary Freelancers..Activate! lol

hugh45

11-19-2007, 08:19 AM

Ramiel

11-19-2007, 08:23 AM

i hope jim lee is home , crying on a big pile of dirty nerd money

Lee is pretty too busy with all those hookers he bought with that dirty nerdy money to even care about The Simpsons.

I got a good laugh out the whole first half of the show but after that it got pretty weak. Though, I have to agree with the majority here, too, Moore has quite the voice

hugh45

11-19-2007, 08:24 AM

Watchmen Babies was funny, but that's as much as I can give the whole sequence. I'd almost call it a wasted opportunity, except there was probably never much of an opportunity in references only a tiny percentage of the audience would get in the first place.

Ha! You're exactly right.

SEAN

I don't know if you saw the promo before this episode,but they this is
for the "hardcore comic book fans"

Puma

11-19-2007, 08:29 AM

My buddy isn't a comics guy, so I had to explain Alan Moore a little to him. He still didn't get why I was laughing my ass off when he talked about what he had done to Radioactive Man. Awesome.

Same at my house; and I had to explain the Maus in the House reference.

Sean Walsh

11-19-2007, 08:36 AM

The part I liked the most is that it proves Alan Moore can have fun with this stuff. I always get the impression from his interviews regarding people adapting his works is that it pisses him off and he's very unhappy about it.

So for him to sit down and do dialogue reacting to Watchmen Babies and then go to singing about Little Lulu was just a delight and funny as hell.

And "MAUS IN THE HOUSE!!!" is possibly the funniest thing I've seen on the Simpsons in recent memory.

Stretch Dude

11-19-2007, 08:42 AM

But on a similar topic- from the appearance of the Dr. Nick-esque doctor in this episode, I assume they're sticking with Dr. Nick's death at the end of the movie? I suppose I would be okay with that, his "Bye, everybody!" was a perfect way to go.

Actually, I've seen an article stating that Dr. Nick will make a Marvin Monroe-esque comeback at some point.

Then again, this plastic surgeon character has been around at least as far back as the episode about Marge's boob job.

He made his first appearance when Moe got plastic surgery.

LtMarvel

11-19-2007, 09:07 AM

JDogindy

11-19-2007, 12:04 PM

I liked Alan Moore in the episode, and it was okay. The problems that I had were:

*Comic Book Guy closed the Android's Dungeon after his attempt to offer ninja weaponry, (an overdone trope) and his subsequent attempt to destroy Coolsville, failed. There wasn't any focus into what CBG did AFTER that, so that was a plot hole.
*Homer's extra skin (usually an end result of drastic weight loss)... eww...
*Marge's "Swerves" business. It isn't explained on what happened to that, so that's also a plot hole.

I don't think that we'll see the first and thrid issues again because cartoons generally don't ditch enviroments that they have used for a long period of time, and any attempt for a character to invent something usually ends at the end of the episode.

Despite this, I loved the sight image of a comic cover for a depressed CBG. Does anyone have a still image of that?

Oh, and the plastic surgeon has appeared even before "Large Marge". He was the guy who made Moe's mug look good.

EZMOHR

11-19-2007, 12:44 PM

Same at my house; and I had to explain the Maus in the House reference.

If it's a word, thirded in my house. I told her what Moore has done, and she said, "League of Extraordinary Gentlemen was the worst Sean Connery movie ever." I tried to stop explaining who the people were then.

StoneGold

11-19-2007, 12:53 PM

If it's a word, thirded in my house. I told her what Moore has done, and she said, "League of Extraordinary Gentlemen was the worst Sean Connery movie ever." I tried to stop explaining who the people were then.

She never saw Zardoz?

http://www.scifimoviepage.com/images/zardoz.jpg

EZMOHR

11-19-2007, 01:03 PM

She never saw Zardoz?

http://www.scifimoviepage.com/images/zardoz.jpg

Dude, after that picture, what isn't there to like about that movie.

rick

11-19-2007, 01:27 PM

Dude, after that picture, what isn't there to like about that movie.

Zardoz is an amazingly great, amazingly bad movie.

It is a film that everyone should see at least once.

Here, I posted this same picture elsewhere, but I liked it enough to share...

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/4149/mauspo8.jpg

IamtheRock3

11-19-2007, 02:55 PM

pretty good

but both plots could of been by themselves

would like to see more comic book guys deserate attempt to destoy coolvill and him trying to get another job.

Perry Holley

11-19-2007, 03:05 PM

Oh, I never would have thought Alan Moore had such a steady singing voice.Alan Moore sings 'March of the Sinister Ducks' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFK2Xq2RyiU)

"You think they're cuddly but I think they're sinister..."

Edit: link fixed

meethraa

11-19-2007, 11:10 PM

I laughed once throughout the whole episode (Homer packing his suitcase while crying his eyes out) and the Alan Moore scenes didn't do much for me. Not my favourite episode by a long shot.

The Xenos

11-20-2007, 12:53 AM

Wow. The comic book references were mind blowing enough. Watchmen Babies. Moore flipping out on national television about DC. Maus is in the house. Dan Clowes utility belt fetish.

And on top of that... I find out Milhouse is Greek Orthodox too.

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

eti

11-20-2007, 11:36 AM

Alan Moore sings 'March of the Sinister Ducks' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFK2Xq2RyiU)

"You think they're cuddly but I think they're sinister..."

Edit: link fixed

Better recording (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5xY2XdtGyM)

captain_unimpressive

11-20-2007, 05:27 PM

It's odd how a beautiful intro can be jarred so suddenly into yet another "Fat man's wife is pretty--how can this be!?" episode.
Everything, from the jabs at 90's comics to the special guests, was tailored for the Simpsons' hardcore fanbase (who probably left when the writing was taken over by Al Jean anyway) and then Marge made the mistake of comparing herself to an anatomically improbable comic book character, leading to a stock-basic plot.

But still, it was probably the first time in six years that I found an episode of The Simpsons funny--and all it took was three of the best writers in the comic book industry.

I liked this exchange--it was well-paced, showed some knowledge of the subject, and it reminded me of the intro from Whatever Happened To The Man of Tomorrow:

Comic Book Guy: A second comic book store!? It's like Superman moving the Gotham City!
Martin: Actually, that happened in World's Finest #19. (points to cover)
Comic Book Guy: Uh, no, that was an imaginary story, dreamt by Jimmy Olsen after he was kicked by Supergirl's horse Comet.
Bart: But aren't they all just imaginary stories?
Comic Book Guy: (pause) Get out of my store.

ultramandingo

11-20-2007, 05:34 PM

.........dc should get dan clowes to take over " all star bat man " - i want to see him get change from his utility belt!

captain_unimpressive

11-20-2007, 05:37 PM

.........dc should get dan clowes to take over " all star bat man " - i want to see him get change from his utility belt!

"This is where Batman keeps his money, in case he needs to take the bus!"

If the Batcave got a five-page foldout, the Utility Belt deserves at least seven.

He'd draw it actual size.

Brandon Hanvey

11-20-2007, 05:48 PM

I would pay good money for a Clowes Batman story about Batman riding the bus.

Best. (http://neekole.com/archives/2007/11/18/why-tonights-simpsons-was-so-awesome/) Episode. (http://cincgreen.blogspot.com/2007/11/husbands-and-knives-simpsons-11-18-2007.html) Ever. (http://www.tvsquad.com/2007/11/18/the-simpsons-husbands-and-knives/)

Heh you linked my wife's blog.

ultramandingo

11-20-2007, 06:06 PM

......... dc almost let clowes loose on the dcu - but whimped out

http://www.tcj.com/233/v_spoton.html

the same guys who thought superman with a mullet was a good idea - at least marvel let peter bagge do a spider man comic ( but whatever happend to the hulk one ?)

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f116/madhousecity/CKClowes.jpg

stealthwise

11-20-2007, 09:56 PM

This episode was one of those events that you wait a long time for and when it finally comes... you're blown away at how much cooler it was than you thought it would be.

J. Robb

11-20-2007, 10:40 PM

This episode was one of those events that you wait a long time for and when it finally comes... you're blown away at how much cooler it was than you thought it would be.
The chances of that happening are usually pretty slim, but it's funny how when Alan Moore is involved, the odds are suddenly even...

Joe Rice

11-21-2007, 04:43 PM

I love the Rocketship on the storefront.

Black Atom

11-21-2007, 04:50 PM

An Alan Moore guest-appearance on The Simpsons sort of underscores everything that's wrong with the show currently.

Joe Rice

11-21-2007, 04:52 PM

An Alan Moore guest-appearance on The Simpsons sort of underscores everything that's wrong with the show currently.

I dunno, I don't equate Alan with shitty writing for the past 8 years or so.

hugh45

11-21-2007, 04:55 PM

I would pay good money for a Clowes Batman story about Batman riding the bus.

Heh you linked my wife's blog.

Remember the Avengers had to take the bus to fight Micheal (the Enemy)?
:p

Sean Whitmore

11-21-2007, 04:59 PM

I dunno, I don't equate Alan with shitty writing for the past 8 years or so.

Yeah, I was about to say....

SEAN

Black Atom

11-21-2007, 05:02 PM

I dunno, I don't equate Alan with shitty writing for the past 8 years or so.

I was referring more to the pop culture pandering. Only, in this case, niche culture pandering (did they run out of pop culture?). Really, that seems like more of a Family Guy thing.

GRANT!

11-21-2007, 05:03 PM

This episode was one of those events that you wait a long time for and when it finally comes... you're blown away at how much cooler it was than you thought it would be.

Kind of like the LOEG: Black Dossier. With less porn.

GRANT!

11-21-2007, 05:05 PM

I was referring more to the pop culture pandering. Only, in this case, niche culture pandering (did they run out of pop culture?). Really, that seems like more of a Family Guy thing.

I doubt Family Guy would have a Maus reference.

Sean Whitmore

11-21-2007, 05:12 PM

I doubt Family Guy would have a Maus reference.

I dunno, they did have that Benjamin Disraeli reference.

"You don't even know who I am."

SEAN

Black Atom

11-21-2007, 05:21 PM

I doubt Family Guy would have a Maus reference.

Precisely my point.

J. Robb

11-21-2007, 05:38 PM

I doubt Family Guy would have a Maus reference.
Precisely my point.
So... your point is that the Simpsons is a much better show than Family Guy?

Black Atom

11-21-2007, 05:47 PM

So... your point is that the Simpsons is a much better show than Family Guy?

That hasn't been true in years. Maus references do not a quality (or funny) show make.

Joe Rice

11-21-2007, 05:48 PM

That hasn't been true in years.

Now that's crazy talk. The Simpsons is awful these days, totally unwatchable. But it's far from the amazing drek of the Family Guy.

Black Atom

11-21-2007, 05:55 PM

Now that's crazy talk. The Simpsons is awful these days, totally unwatchable. But it's far from the amazing drek of the Family Guy.

I want to agree but...no, I gotta stick by my original assertion. Really, the only difference between the two at this point is that Family Guy will actually make me laugh on occasion.

J. Robb

11-21-2007, 06:03 PM

Maus references do not a quality (or funny) show make.
You didn't find the Maus reference funny?

Would you have preferred an 80s movie reference? God knows we don't get enough of those...

Black Atom

11-21-2007, 06:15 PM

You didn't find the Maus reference funny?

I did, but not in a laugh out loud way or even in a "Heh. That's clever" way. The only really amusing thing about it is that it's something that'll go over most people's heads and I can pat myself on the back for getting it. And The Simpsons should kind of be above that.

Would you have preferred an 80s movie reference? God knows we don't get enough of those...

No, and I don't want to turn this into a "The Simpsons sucks now" thread (even though it would bring me great pleasure, because I'm a small, small man) but really the episode was pretty weak, even with all those jokes catered just for me.

J. Robb

11-21-2007, 06:28 PM

I did, but not in a laugh out loud way or even in a "Heh. That's clever" way. The only really amusing thing about it is that it's something that'll go over most people's heads and I can pat myself on the back for getting it. And The Simpsons should kind of be above that.
I thought it was funny because of the ironic use of Maus as an action hero.

The Simpsons has used semi-obscure references since the beginning. They're fun to catch, but really, no one's forcing you to pat yourself on the back.

Thorlief

11-21-2007, 07:07 PM

well, seeing a cartoony Moore sure is cool, which was- i think-the point of this thread (since the OP stated he laughed a lot when Moore was on screen). The Simpsons have been sucking hard for years but we all know that

Nosgoth Phantom

11-21-2007, 07:30 PM

I dunno, I don't equate Alan with shitty writing for the past 8 years or so.

The show has been very bad ever since they turned Homer into a complete idiot for the sake of being an idiot and started recycling the exact same plots. How many times has a Simpson been in jail now? How many times has Homer almost lost Marge? How many times has Lisa done something against her morals just to preach a liberal-larded lesson at the end of the episode? The Alan Moore bit was pretty much the only funny thing in this episode, and it's only funny to people familiar with his work. The movie was funnier than the current episodes , but it also recycled many of the plots done to death on the show. Homer almost ruins the marriage, Homer pisses off the town, the Simpsons once again are forced to leave Springfield, Homer has his umpteenth epiphany, Lisa once again has a match-of-intellect crush, and Bart once again loses and regains respect for Homer. I'm starting to think that their scripts come in templates with Mad Libs blanks in them lol

Sean Whitmore

11-21-2007, 07:39 PM

The Simpsons movie built up some goodwill with me, which it held onto right until the end of the theme song during the season premiere. I actually looked at my watch, mouth agape at how little time it took to squander it.

SEAN

xarathos

11-21-2007, 10:58 PM

I suppose I could turn this into 'Family Guy Sucks' thread.

I was in a Subway last night at that fat cartoon guy was up on the MENU!:mad:

What happened to the Comic Book guy? What does he do now?

Believe it or not, I did not see the movie this summer. I actually never got around to it.

Superbeast

11-22-2007, 08:09 PM

The show has been very bad ever since they turned Homer into a complete idiot for the sake of being an idiot and started recycling the exact same plots. How many times has a Simpson been in jail now? How many times has Homer almost lost Marge? How many times has Lisa done something against her morals just to preach a liberal-larded lesson at the end of the episode? The Alan Moore bit was pretty much the only funny thing in this episode, and it's only funny to people familiar with his work. The movie was funnier than the current episodes , but it also recycled many of the plots done to death on the show. Homer almost ruins the marriage, Homer pisses off the town, the Simpsons once again are forced to leave Springfield, Homer has his umpteenth epiphany, Lisa once again has a match-of-intellect crush, and Bart once again loses and regains respect for Homer. I'm starting to think that their scripts come in templates with Mad Libs blanks in them lol

Co-signed. I think even Simpsons staff they are running on fumes from the last 2 seasons and the movie which copied as lot of comic material. They have admitted they plan to ride the money maker until the rules fall off which is business sense, but I can't see The Simpsons lasting beyond it because they have went from a suicidal Homer disappointed before to a Homer that's suffered.

In conclusion, Superman is a Dick.

The Xenos

11-22-2007, 09:27 PM

Anyone else think it was pretty awesome that Alan Moore dissed DC / Warners on national television, a popular show like the Simpsons? He pretty much takes a swipe at both the V for Vendetta film and their upcoming Watchmen film. I found that pretty ballsy and hilarious.

Also that he was standing in front of a Lost Girls poster added to the oddity. Simpsons was advertising a book with pornographic versions of Peter Pan, Alice in Wonderland and other children's tales. Awesome.