Invincible

[Predator]

All I've heard is that it's a young superhero learning the ropes. Is it a Spider-Man knockoff?

[Ronald Bryan]

All I've heard is that it's a young superhero learning the ropes. Is it a Spider-Man knockoff?
No!

Invincible deals with parent child relationships. It deals with friendships. And up until the last issue it has been incredibly upbeat and fun.

Now, it's about the point where a child must learn to pick their own direction and fight against their parents. This is a series about growing up. And it is extremely well done.

[Pil]

No!

Invincible deals with parent child relationships. It deals with friendships. And up until the last issue it has been incredibly upbeat and fun.

Now, it's about the point where a child must learn to pick their own direction and fight against their parents. This is a series about growing up. And it is extremely well done.

Exactly! Very different and very good. Highly recommended! Do yourself a favour and try it.

[heavysoul]

RB hit it on the head... it's definitely a title worth at least checking out the first volume.

[JLarson]

Invincible is fantastic! It's the sort of book that needs to be published and recognized. I think that years from now it'll be looked back upon with the same kindness that people look at the old First Comics books with.

[Grant]

All I've heard is that it's a young superhero learning the ropes. Is it a Spider-Man knockoff?

Hardly but it does capture a similar spirit that Stan Lee and Steve Ditko had with the original Spider-man and what Bendis is trying to achieve with Ultimate Spider-man (and kind of falling short of if you ask me). But Kirkman takes chances that not even Stan Lee could have gotten away with (especially issue #11 whoo boy).

But as Ronald explained it does dealing with growing in the context of a super hero book. It's one of the best reads in comics. Seriously pick up the first two trades.

And the art is fantastic.

[Grant]

Basically Nolan beats the shit out of Mark throughout the entire issue. No subplots or asides. Just twenty pages of Nolan knocking some sense into his boy. And Mark doesn't put up much of a fight. He still believes there is some good in his dad and this is where Kirkman acknowledges it. It's an out for Mark to outright hate his dad. But when he says in 500 years when all his friends and his mother are gone he'll still ahve his dad. And Nolan is gone angry and upset and he can't finish off his son. There's still a hear in the monster.

I didn't like this issue as much as the last. But I think it's a fitting conclusion for the most ambitious arc of the series. Kirkman is touching on some serious mature themes here and taking his characters to darker places. I can't wait to see how this plays. I mean with Nolan off in space what does Mark tell his mother? How does he face his friends? Eve and the other superheros?

[Tynne]

It's never fun when you find out your Dad isn't the man you thought he was.

It's even worse if he leaves the family right when you most need him.

Right when you most need a role model of how to be a man.

And instead you get forced into responsibilities far before you're ready.

It wasn't easy for me.

And I forsee that the super-heroic equivalent will be just as difficult.

The break-up of a family...especially if before that family seemed to be ideal...HURTS.

It hurts like Hell.

For years afterwards.

If Kirkman takes the honest route...then Mark's gonna be messed up for a long time after this. These wounds take years to heal.

I'm almost 28 and in some ways I'm still the angry 14 year old who would give anything to have the life he had "before" back.

[BWilly]

I wish I had heard how great this book was sooner, since now I am having trouble hunting down the back issues! Before anyone mentions it, I prefer the back issues to tpb's so I consider them the last resort.

[Bolo Musashi]

Really enjoying this title, can't wait for #12 to hit the shelves (hopefully tomorrow). I find it to be refreshing as well as funny. Really keen to see how the latest polt twist pans out.

[Grant]

It's interesting you brought this up Tynne because Kirkman's reassurance that this won't change the book that much well i don't find that reassuring. Finding out your dad is leaving a double life is something that does change you. You look at things differently. I lucked out because my dad never did but I know what's it's like finding out your male role model isn't what you thought he was.

I do like the last page because it makes it clear that Nolan has some left good in him and his time on did affect him. But it comes back to how Mark and his mother are going to deal with his depature. I'm curious if Mark comes right out and tells his mother. Maybe she already knows.

The book has lost it's innocence but I only see that as a good thing creatively. Marks life was getting a little too uncomplicated and ideal dnd while that's fun for a while it's not that interesting.

You have to admire Kirkman for not taking the easy route even though we really don't want this to happen (which is kind of the point). Lets hope he can deal with this as honestly as he done before.

[Tynne]

Kirkman will pretty much destroy any emotional honesty he's built up if the book doesn't show some major damage in both the son and mother for a long time to come. This family didn't show any signs of dysfunction or being "broken" before...so this won't be a case where either can "put on a happy face...we're better off without the jerk!"

I was glad he didn't take the easy way out...and I hope he continues to not take the easy way out.

This is a scarring event. It warps one's life. The pain does heal...but it's a gradual healing.

After lots of anger...and lots of tears.

If you thought this book had growing up angst before...*shudder*

[Ronald Bryan]

I enjoyed this issue for what it is, Mark getting a serious beat down. It also goes to show just how bad Mark's dad is. He doesn't care about all of the destruction and death he is causing as a result of the fight. I also love the fact that Mark stands up to his father. He does not back off, and he does not quit.

The ending was very good. Does Mark win? With his father flying into space and crying does this mean that he will hange his mind? Or is this because of the loss of his son? I can see this meaning a lot of different things in the future. Either way, it is awesome. I cannot wait for the next issue.

[Petertime]

I find it kinda odd that Kirkman has asked for fans to stick with this. I mean outloud, in an interview and in the comic's letter page he seems as if he is afraid his audience is going to hate this new direction...

where I don't see it as a new direction at all, and I love the fact that he has had this planned all along. I love twists, but I HATE it when it's just there for the sake of being there.

Maybe it's cause he's relatively new or maybe I'm out of touch with the rest of his audience, I don't think he has anything to worry about.

ROBERT, You've already proven you know what you're doing. I'm in this for the long haul, you just keep on doing things they way you want, the audience will be there.

(only slow down a bit eh? I can only afford so many comics a month)
Pete

[Toonimator]

I've read positive reviews of earlier "Invincible" issues, before the Guardians of the Globe murders, that praised its fun vibe, calling it "family friendly" and such.

Perhaps it's those reviews, and the impression readers may have coming onto the book after reading them, that he's worried about?

Suddenly there's blood & guts in nearly every issue! Brutal violence! And while it's in the same clean style, it's quite different in tone.

That said, I love it!

[Grant]

I've read positive reviews of earlier "Invincible" issues, before the Guardians of the Globe murders, that praised its fun vibe, calling it "family friendly" and such.

Perhaps it's those reviews, and the impression readers may have coming onto the book after reading them, that he's worried about?

Suddenly there's blood & guts in nearly every issue! Brutal violence! And while it's in the same clean style, it's quite different in tone.

That said, I love it!


To be fair I think Kirkman is just trying to remind us the book isn't going to become Spawn. I agree Mark's life is going to be complicated and harder but I think there will always be a fun aspect to it.

Issue 13 looks heartbreaking if anyone else has seen the preview pages...

[Crowley]

what breed of dog is his head?


seriously? I've trying to find dog reference for an illustration i want to do of him and I thought he was a Scottish terrier... but now I have no clue...

any dog experts?

[Captain_Video]

Before this issue I was more of a sporadic Invincible reader and now it is easily my favourite title every month, I am loving the new plot revalation BOM BOM BOM at its finest and the complete harsh brutality of what a superhero fight could look like was brilliant, just nasty violence, I never once thought of it as cool, just as a painful experience.

The only tiny problem I have with the title is I dont really relate to Mark but then thats probably because he is a lot cooler than I have ever been.

Thumbs way up to Kirkman and co....Invincible rocks.

[roguespirit]

Read all 12 issues yesterday and wow, what with this and the Nobles around, I'm beginning to find my interest in mainstream superheroes start to wane.

Loving it

[Bretlee]

I really can't wait for the next issue. Mark's going to have to tell his mom, and probably mount a group to hunt his father down. How do you hunt down the man who raised you? This is really good stuff.

[Grant]

I really can't wait for the next issue. Mark's going to have to tell his mom, and probably mount a group to hunt his father down. How do you hunt down the man who raised you? This is really good stuff.

I have a feeling they aren't going to try to find Nolan. I think Nolan is coming back with a whole lot of Vilitrium soldiers within the next year.

[silverserpent]

i enjoyed this issue and can't wait for the next one...this is one of the best comics out there today.

[Bretlee]

I have a feeling they aren't going to try to find Nolan. I think Nolan is coming back with a whole lot of Vilitrium soldiers within the next year.


I'm thinking he doesn't need the soldiers to take over the world. He took down the supposedly premiere super hero team with little trouble. I think he's either going to have a change of heart or he starts the conquest by himself.

[Forefinger]

I've been thinking about picking up an issue or two of this series. Do any of you recommend Invincible?

[Grant]

Get the first two trades before you pick up any current issues. Trust me on this one. Some major things happen in the last four issues.

Closely follows Savage Dragon as my favorite superhero book though. It's a really great read.

-Grant

[Toonimator]

Agreed. Invincible is one of my faves. I'm feeling withdrawals, since no new issue's come out in the last few weeks, and since the change in penciler, it was biweekly, or something very close to it. 3 or 4 issues came out in rapid succession! It was great!

[Ronald Bryan]

This is one of the best comics on the stands. But do as Grant suggested, pick up the first two trades. They really help to sell the story.

[Bolo Musashi]

Gary gives this series a big thumbs up.

[roguespirit]

I read the 1st 11 issues last week ut of curiosity and I gotta say ..this series is definetly worth the money

[heavysoul]

i'm not gonna say anything you haven't already read... INVINCIBLE gives a good name to super-hero comics. i've been so jaded for so long but image's super-hero line (with books like invicible, jack staff, firebreather, parliament of justice and the now M powers) is doing exciting things with the genre.

[Forefinger]

Thanks. I may try to pick up some of the back issues or get the trades. My local comic shop is offering all back issues for $ 0.50 on free comic book day, 3 July. I may pick them up for VERY cheap!

[Apathy Boy]

I've recently gotten addicted to Invincible. A very refreshing take on the genre. The series is also neat in that most issues are stand-alone, though plot threads carry on throughout.

The one downside to trying to catch up is that the trades are terribly, terribly expensive. Each trade collects only four issues but costs 20 bucks Canadian ($13 American). Ouch! That's 30 per cent MORE than the individual issues would have cost.

So if you can get the back issues at your comic store, go for it! All back issues for $0.50? Egads! Why don't I live in your city?

[BWilly]

Thanks. I may try to pick up some of the back issues or get the trades. My local comic shop is offering all back issues for $ 0.50 on free comic book day, 3 July. I may pick them up for VERY cheap!

Damn you are lucky. I don't like TPB's and have been trying to track down back issues but they have been too expensive. Count your blessings my friend.

[Silent Phantom]

I've been reading Invincible since the beginning and I've loved every issue since. I still like the recent twist, and it made me think about the fact that there's no such thing as a "perfect" family. There's usually someone with problems or deep secrets.

I wonder how Nolan and Mark's relationship will be resolved. Maybe Mark somehow shows his dad that he has to pay for his lies and killing the Guardians of the Globe. Since Nolan is the strongest being on the planet, I doubt anything could really hold him. I think it would be interesting if Nolan imposed a self-punishment by maybe going into total isolation.

Imagine if the book ever went 500 years into the future. Even if Nolan decides not to conquer the Earth, wouldn't there still be Vilitrium people wondering about Nolan's status?

[theoperative]

I think Nolan jumped the gun.

Why not just wait until, say, mom and everybody else is dead, then start this chat? Was he afraid the boy would get too tough? In that case, call for backup. Maybe it's just me ...

[Grant]

I think Nolan jumped the gun.

Why not just wait until, say, mom and everybody else is dead, then start this chat? Was he afraid the boy would get too tough? In that case, call for backup. Maybe it's just me ...

Nolan was afraid that Mark would get too powerful for him to handle on his own if Mark would disagree with him. Also Nolan was starting to realize he was going "native" and knew he had to do something.

[Grant]

So everything starts again. This is the first issue where Mark has to deal with repercussions of the last five or so issues. And what a great time to start a brand new status quo. Kirkman is dealing with Mark and his mother reaction to what happen with Nolan fairly responsibly. It's also interesting to see a secret government organization going to great efforts to help the Graysons (like keeping Nolans books in print, Marks full ride scholarship) out because they need Mark but at the same time doing some shifty things (notice Immortals quick cameo I'm sure Mark missed it) not to mention the cold but rational way they explained the recent events to Marks mother.

On the home front there seems to be an interesting development with Eve and Bill. I also like the scene were the usually confident Robot gets taken down a peg by that government liason from Brit (forgot his name). Very cool things are being set up.

But the heart of the issue is the conversation with Allen. It's clear that Mark is still trying to deal with what happened with his father. But in way he still keeps a positive perspective and I love his last line is his next major move in life is to finish out the school year.

Overall I was nervous about this issue but I'm still enjoying the book more then ever. This is probably the best superhero book out right now and despite the dark turn of events it still retains it's heart.

[Karl J. Barnes]

Yes, this once 'happy-go-lucky' book is turning a bit darker, the world has gotten colder and menaer. Still, the story has a nice twist to the old Superman story and hopefully, Mark won't let what happen deter him from being happy and grow.

I do hope that they don't try to wrap up the story between Mark and his father too soon. I want Mark to develop more, get more experience THEN have the confrontation between the two.

[Tynne]

This isn't really something that can be wrapped up or resolved quickly. Not if they want to remain emotionally honest.

[Karl J. Barnes]

This isn't really something that can be wrapped up or resolved quickly. Not if they want to remain emotionally honest.

True, but I was thinking that if they could hold off the confrontation for a few years and then start a stroy arc invovling Mark and his father, it would be cooler than waiting a few months down the road or whatever. I don't even want a cameo from a Viltrumite. I want to forget that there was an army of supermen ready to take over the Earth. I don't think that I have anything to worry about,since Kirkman has been able to throw so many curves that I had no idea that Daddy Dearest wasn't on the up and up. I'm just blathering.

[Grant]

It's interesting to note that Mark is willingly ready to accept he's working for Cecil now seeing how he's anxious to find a new father figure. It's hard not to notice the Cecil now has a lot of control and influence over Mark's life now. Whether or not that is a good thing remains to be seen.

[Karl J. Barnes]

Also, he may figure that since Cecil knows his father so well that it might help in the future, plus he is getting paid for doing something that he loves and was doing for free.

[cory w]

Damn you are lucky. I don't like TPB's and have been trying to track down back issues but they have been too expensive. Count your blessings my friend.

Khepri.com may have them for a decent price. Not fifty cents decent, but reasonable, I'm sure.

[Gavin Higginbotham, BotF]

I would have recommended that you buy ALL Robert Kirkman books as they come out, but as August and September loom on the horizon, everyone may have to start mugging old ladies for money. There's like two dozen books out or whatever.

Poor wallet...

[nHammer]

I'll be diving into the Invincible trades soon. I'm looking forward to it.

Reading everything that's being said about it makes me think I'll end up getting this book on a regular bases. :D

[xadrian]

This is my Parking Lot Book. The change in penciler was almost negligible as both Walker and Ottley have their own skill set, the book was never lacking before or after.

Huh, Eisner what?

[torippu]

INVINCIBLE is very close to overtaking THE FLASH as the best superhero book on the stands today (IMHO). Try the first 2 trades before diving into the last 4~5 issues - you don't want to spoil all the twists and turns that Kirkman & Ottley are taking us on!

[Forefinger]

Damn you are lucky. I don't like TPB's and have been trying to track down back issues but they have been too expensive. Count your blessings my friend.

I was out of town and I missed the discount on free comic book day! Doh'! I stopped by a shop where I was, but they weren't having a big discount!

[Noir_Dark]

I've just finished issue 13. It was good, not great.

I see I'm alone in this.

[Forefinger]

I haven't been able to find any decently priced back issues for this and the trades are too expensive. I guess I just missed the boat on this one. Thanks for everyone's recomendations anyway. I may check out some of Kirkland's other writing, like the upcoming Savage Dragon mini that he's writing.

[torippu]

I haven't been able to find any decently priced back issues for this and the trades are too expensive. I guess I just missed the boat on this one. Thanks for everyone's recomendations anyway. I may check out some of Kirkland's other writing, like the upcoming Savage Dragon mini that he's writing.

If you are having trouble finding decent prices for trades/back issues, you might want to check out www.khepri.com - I think the Invincible trades are 30% off right now. Buy enough stuff and you more than make up for the shipping costs.

[nHammer]

I haven't been able to find any decently priced back issues for this and the trades are too expensive. I guess I just missed the boat on this one. Thanks for everyone's recomendations anyway. I may check out some of Kirkland's other writing, like the upcoming Savage Dragon mini that he's writing.

I got both trades off E-Bay. $11.00 each. Worked for me.
:D

[Grant]

For the love of god people is anyone else reading this book?

Cause it's one of the best super hero comics around. Ryan Ottleys art is quickly getting better and at moments tops Cory Walkers. But fight sequences aside the characters are what drives the book.

Mark is trying to cope with his dad and we start to seem him crack a little bit. Mark's Mom on the other hand is a wreck. Got admire Kirkman for not taking the easy route. Especially with that last page where Mark's mom blames him for Nolon flying off.

The new Guardians is struggling I love the little silent panels of the confident Robots non expressions when it's clear he's failing. Kirkman has plans for robot. I also like the reintroduction of the Immortal (come did anyone expect a guy named Immortal to remain dead) and his justified threat to Mark is another sign things are getting harder.

So much more even. The High School stuff is interesting.

It's a great book. It's everything a super hero book should be. Plenty of light moments, good melo drama, suprising revelations and lots of fights. And it's use of straightforward but smart storytelling.

[Ronald Bryan]

Come on Grant, I was postin my reviews going down the forums. And this one is last for me.

This is the definition if a fun superhero comic. Everything Kirkman tries in this comic works, and the fact that Mark is having to deal with all of this stuff with his father is fantastic. This comic has turned it up a notch, and is really hitting on all cylinders. I would even go as far to say that I think Ottley has far surpassed Walker in the art. He fits this book perfectly.

The story continues to deal realistically with everything going on, and the leak is just another interesting point to what is happening. And Mark going back to school is also a great move. Everything is settling back in to normal, and yet nothing is ever going to be the same. And now we can all see how Mark does care for Eve, and how he screwed himself.

So Grant, are you going to email Kirkman with the subject line "banana split"?

[Jorgo]

If our reviewer were allowed to use a gun to make you buy this issue, he probably would :-) After what I've read in the review, I have to check the series out immediately myself. Come and have a look!

[Grant]

Also does anyone else think Robot isn't really a robot? I have a hunch he's a regular guy in a suit.

[Paca]

OK, I'm sold. I'll go check it out.

[BWilly]

Also does anyone else think Robot isn't really a robot? I have a hunch he's a regular guy in a suit.

Thats the impression that I have. Honestly, the idea that he is an actual robot would have shocked me. I would have felt stupid finding out he was a real robot after thinking he was human all of this time.

[Brian Cronin]

Well, I appreciate you still posting the threads, Grant. :)

Thanks!

-Brian

[sythspawn]

Invincible is easily my favorite book right now. I always make sure to read it LAST so I can enjoy it the most. :) I like the book so much, I've even gone and bought the trades too.! :D

[Dave Cote]

Sounds good just added it to my pull list

[Expletive Deleted]

I just picked up the first two trades this week, and they're a lot of fun. Anyone know if the third one is out yet?

[Grant]

I just picked up the first two trades this week, and they're a lot of fun. Anyone know if the third one is out yet?

It's not out yet I assume it'll come out next year. That's the big "Perfect Strangers" storyline. Back issues seem readily availiable at most stores I've been too you should really pick those up. Waiting for the trade is nice but some books sell so low they might not be able to continue. And Kirkman makes each issue a satisfying read so it's worth it.

[mccabe191]

I just picked up the first two trades this week, and they're a lot of fun. Anyone know if the third one is out yet?

The shipping changes were posted yesterday at newsarama and it listed when the third tpb is coming out.

Invincible Vol. III: Perfect Strangers TP 09/01/04


http://newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16808

[Expletive Deleted]

It's not out yet I assume it'll come out next year. That's the big "Perfect Strangers" storyline. Back issues seem readily availiable at most stores I've been too you should really pick those up. Waiting for the trade is nice but some books sell so low they might not be able to continue.If I get into a series by trades, I like to stick with that. Otherwise I end up buying the same material twice.

Regarding waiting for the trade as a phenomena, though, I have to think INVINCIBLE is already surviving mainly on TPB sales. The monthly, if you believe ICV2, is only doing 6-7k per month. As long as TPB sales remain high (and, judging from Kirkman's CBR (http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=3711) interview, they are), it's not really a problem.

Besides, in terms of back issues, I haven't seen anything around here.Invincible Vol. III: Perfect Strangers TP 09/01/04Thanks!

[Brian Cronin]

Tut tut, Grant repeating the "Trades hurt comic sales" falsehood....I'm so disappointed. :)

-Brian

[Grant]

Tut tut, Grant repeating the "Trades hurt comic sales" falsehood....I'm so disappointed. :)

-Brian

I don't know. I worry about my favorite books getting canceled because people wait for the trades. Whatever buy what you like people but if Invincible is canceled I'm going to bitch out Expletive Deleted by name in my lengthy rant.

Then again I wait for the trade on a lot of low selling books like Sleeper and Walking Dead. Yes people I'm a hypocrite. I don't even believe in my own misinformed rants. Just stirring people up so they can visit the Image board and argue with me.

[Expletive Deleted]

Wouldn't it be more constructive, in such an instance, to blame the masses who aren't buying the book in any format?

I'm just sayin'.

[josh straightedge]

People shouldn't wait for the trades on this one. This is a great book and it's not too expensive to find issues. This book is amazing. What's great about it to me is that it's not over the top violence and gore, not even that much bad language either, and those are things I really like. It's a book that the younger audience can actually get into, if they are going to the shops.

[Grant]

Wouldn't it be more constructive, in such an instance, to blame the masses who aren't buying the book in any format?

I'm just sayin'.

Maybe I should start a "If you're not reading Invincible you should go f*** yourself thread."

But I still will blame you ;)

[Tynne]

Invincible sucks!

Just keep buying those Bat/Super/X/Spider books people! Those are the kinds of super-hero comics people really like. Because they're movies too!

*evil laugh*

Kidding, kidding, kidding! :)

[Jorgo]

Just because I'm curious and a total n00b, but you're not THE Grant (M.), are you?

[Grant]

Just because I'm curious and a total n00b, but you're not THE Grant (M.), are you?

I'm not THE Grant I'm just one of many.

-Grant
No I'm no HIM either. Joe Rice was very disappointed.

[Karl J. Barnes]

Not one of the better issues though I did enjoy the conversation between Debbie(Invincible's mom) and Claire, very normal and mature moment. What I didn't like was Invincible's adventure. It seemed to be "written-in", if get my meaning. Still, the issue was pretty fun and the ending with Atomic Eve and Mark's buddy(can't remember his name) was pretty giggle worthy.

[Grant]

Not one of the better issues though I did enjoy the conversation between Debbie(Invincible's mom) and Claire, very normal and mature moment. What I didn't like was Invincible's adventure. It seemed to be "written-in", if get my meaning. Still, the issue was pretty fun and the ending with Atomic Eve and Mark's buddy(can't remember his name) was pretty giggle worthy.


Mark's buddy's name is William who incidentely is visually based on Bill Crabtree the colorist. The Claire and Debbie stuff was the best stuff but I thought the Invincible stuff was entertaining. I actually like the opening scene with Robot and Monster girl. I'm glad Kirkman is giving a these supporting characters some interesting moments.

[Karl J. Barnes]

Mark's buddy's name is William who incidentely is visually based on Bill Crabtree the colorist. The Claire and Debbie stuff was the best stuff but I thought the Invincible stuff was entertaining. I actually like the opening scene with Robot and Monster girl. I'm glad Kirkman is giving a these supporting characters some interesting moments.

I really feel sorry for Monster Girl. Regressing in age and yet still feeling the urges of an adult that is Hell! I wonder the younger that she regresses physically , the stronger her Monster powers get?

[David Bedlam]

This issue, while not being the finest issue in the series, is still very enjoyable and humorus. The way in which Invincible gets out of this issue's pickle is telegraphed from a mile away, but Kirkman still makes it entertaining.

However the scenes with Debbie and Claire were much better and belivable than the rest of the issue. It was nice seeing the different members of the family coping in different ways and doing so together.

Plus who couldn't chuckle at the last panel?

[Toonimator]

Yeah, that particular wedding loophole's been done plenty of times, but it was an entertaining telling of it. Plenty of great moments in the issue.

The "Parking in Rear" sign cracks me up still...

"Can't you just use the elevator?"

"Good lord. You're a virgin?"

"Stupid dress."

"I ain't waiting around for THIS."

"This is Superpatriot's wife." "You know Superpatriot?!"

"Can I still order that pizza?"

"This is SO gay."

...might be about time to retire the "Big One" joke, though ;)

...okay, a couple more issues...

love this book!

[Apathy Boy]

I know this is a little late, but it always takes a while for my comic store to get Invincible.

Decent issue, though I didn't like the ending. I couldn't imagine Debbie becoming such a slobbering wreck after being dumped by Nolan. I mean, I can understand how a woman could become completely invested in her relationship when that relationship is with the world's premier alpha male. But to the extent that she could blame Mark for what happened? She just seemed too sensible for that.

However, I guess the point is to make Mark's life as uncomfortable as possible so that Nolan can actually tempt him into joining him.

Oh, and to weigh into the trade versus singles debate: the singles are kind of nice because they're filled with all sorts of pin-ups and back-up strips that aren't published in the trades. Plus, for some bizarre reason, the trades cost more than the individual issues (at least the first two did).

[Jack]

Invincible sucks!

Just keep buying those Bat/Super/X/Spider books people! Those are the kinds of super-hero comics people really like. Because they're movies too!

*evil laugh*

Kidding, kidding, kidding! :)
You sadden me Tynne. Because there are probably people who do think exactly that..

[roguespirit]

I know this is a little late, but it always takes a while for my comic store to get Invincible.

Decent issue, though I didn't like the ending. I couldn't imagine Debbie becoming such a slobbering wreck after being dumped by Nolan. I mean, I can understand how a woman could become completely invested in her relationship when that relationship is with the world's premier alpha male. But to the extent that she could blame Mark for what happened? She just seemed too sensible for that.




I have spent a fair amount of time counselling and it is fairly typical for even 'strong sensible' people to fall into this behaviour pattern. it usually passes with time and for the loved ones on the recieving end of this behaviour it is incredibly hurtful and hard to understand. With love, understanding and patience most usually get through this rough time.

[roguespirit]

i downloaded the first 11 issues of this and after reading it felt obliged to go out and support Kirkman by buying every issue I could get. i now have this on my pull list and damn if it aint worth every penny.

[Jack]

Oh, and I loved Bulletproof.

Heheh, Bulletproof, Invincible... Heheheheh.

And he was wearing the first costume Mark tried on back in #1!

His powers, name and costume make me wonder if he's somehow linked to Mark, or if it's just a joke. He can't really be another son of Nolan, since he stated that his children with humans would pretty much be clones of him. Maybe he's the "Martian Manhunter" who is supposedly dead?

[TheodoreLogan]

Did that last page slap anyone else in the face as hard as me??!!! I mean all I did was turn the page and the next thing I remember was picking myself up off the floor in stunned disbelief. Good thing I didn't wait for the trade...I could be in a coma or something :D !!

[onizuka]

this is easily the best book out there at the moment. i don't know any other way to describe other than totally flawless.

[Apathy Boy]

One of the better issues in a long time. Yeah, you could see the resolution to the Aquaria story coming from 20,000 leagues away, but it was well executed. Lots of fun, some intriguing sub-plots and pay-offs to a couple of long-running gags. It's just like old times!

I like how Kirkman handled last issue's conclusion, not glossing over the emotional turmoil Omni-Man created but not turning Mark into yet another guilt-ridden teenage superhero either. (To quote Bart Simpson: "Eh, making teenagers depressed is like shooting fish in a barrel." I'm SO glad Invincible is doing something different.)

And Benito and Nate's back-up strip is fast becoming the highlight of my month. "This is for giving away the ending!" Heh. I'm going to have to pick up BULLY PULPIT if I ever find it in the stores.

[Bolo Musashi]

Plus who couldn't chuckle at the last panel?

A similar panel showing Mark giving his buddy William a lift (around issue #3-6) is one of the things that got me hooked onto this title. Every time I see that panel I just piss myself.

[hi! Lord Fear]

I love this book it respects its characters but isn't afraid to take them for a ride.
Question: has anyone talked about a Guardians of the Globe special I would love to see one

[noh-varr]

Okay another great issue (what else does one expect?).
Starting with an alternate universe where Mark is evil was way cool. I almost thought it was a possible future, or a dream sequance at first but it is not. Though I do wonder if this may lead to Invicible vs. Invincible hmmm. The biggest thing I picked up from that part was Robot is a Robot! Final proof yay!
On top of that we have Robot being fired which has been builing for a long long time. Mark finaly talking to his girlfriend about things (hoping that gets some more space really), plus a villian turning good very quickly which I really enjoyed! I am pondering though what the hell so many Angston Levys are going to do.......

Okay all what did you think? Share damnit!

[Toonimator]

Great issue, as ever. The opening really threw me; I figured it was a dream or something. If you look closely at Times Square, all the brand names are goofily altered...

...as for Robot, we only know he's a robot on THAT world. :)

I wonder if it was Omni-Man who drove off the invaders? Someone flew by very quickly. Perhaps he's still protecting "his" planet? While sorting out whether to conquer it or merely become a protector, for Mark's sake?

The Damien Darkblood scene was fun. But was it merely a fun aside to wrap up Darkblood's subplot, or did he have some actual info we DON'T know about? What it could be, who knows?

The Angstrom Levy gathering is... well, puzzling. Not enough info yet. I wonder if any of them are named "Eugene"? Many could've been named differently by their parents.

"Angstrom Levy, meet Eugene Levy."
"Eugene? Like--"
"DON'T even start..."

[The Adventurer]

For questions on who that fiery flying man is and the story of the alien invasion, see Brit: Red, White, Black, and Blue. Invincible #16 ties in with it. Much like how Invinicble #15 tied in with Super Patriot: War on Terror #1 last month.

[Christopher Burton]

For questions on who that fiery flying man is and the story of the alien invasion, see Brit: Red, White, Black, and Blue. Invincible #16 ties in with it. Much like how Invinicble #15 tied in with Super Patriot: War on Terror #1 last month.

I semi-cohesive Image superhero universe is kind of cool! :cool:

[DF2506]

#16 was my first regular issue of Invincible (aside: I've read the first TPB too and the free story).

I liked the issue ALOT.

The alternate reality stuff was really good, the invasion was cool, the rest of the issue..heck..it was ALL great!

And I thought it was VERY cool that Invinicble has back-ups, pin-ups, and etc like Savage Dragon does!!

I definitly have to keep reading this! I eventually want to get the other TPBs, but I don't think I can wait till then to start reading the regular issues! lol! This book just seems really cool!

Can't wait to read more!

DF2506
" Savage Dragon is my favorite comic book right now and I think Invinicble will soon be sitting right next to it! "

[Lightbend]

So who was the fiery flying man? I was kind of holding out hope it was Nolan, myself.

[The Adventurer]

Again, See Brit: Red, White, Black, and Blue the fiery Flying Man and the Alien retreat is explained there. It's definitly NOT Nolan.

[Magneto_X]

I wonder if it was Omni-Man who drove off the invaders? Someone flew by very quickly. Perhaps he's still protecting "his" planet? While sorting out whether to conquer it or merely become a protector, for Mark's sake?

If it was truly a universe opposite to the "real" one in Invincible then I'd say Omni-Man is a *good guy* in this reality (since the alternate Invincible is a bad guy unlike the "real" Invincible). Maybe when the parallel universes crossover Invincible will meet the alternate version of his father. That'll be awkward. :)

[Apathy Boy]

I think it's poor form to have a multi-title crossover and not tell anyone. Hello, you're doing old-school comic books, so start using editor's notes, darn it!

Other than that, another excellent issue with some interesting sub-plots brewing. And I just realized how much I'm loving Ryan Ottley's art!

Oh, and I will not rest until we see an Invincipals comic.

[MatthewC]

For questions on who that fiery flying man is and the story of the alien invasion, see Brit: Red, White, Black, and Blue. Invincible #16 ties in with it. Much like how Invinicble #15 tied in with Super Patriot: War on Terror #1 last month.

Could you maybe just tell us here, with appropriate spoiler space of course?

The chances that I will ever buy Brit: Red, white, Black, and Blue are virtualy nil. My store doesn't even have a copy I could flip through.

[Forefinger]

If Savage Dragon wins the Presidential election, will he be the President in the Invincible book too?

[The Adventurer]

Could you maybe just tell us here, with appropriate spoiler space of course?

The chances that I will ever buy Brit: Red, white, Black, and Blue are virtualy nil. My store doesn't even have a copy I could flip through.


Well it's not really that complicated.

Spoilers!!.....















During the course of the story in Brit: Red, White, Black, and Blue the earth is invaded by Aliens, the battle is long and hard as heros from across the Image Universe Rally. Meanwhile Brit is trying to save the life of his Ex's Son, a Solor Powered Powerhouse who's powers have gotten very unstable, in a last ditch effort they shoot him into the sun to recharge his "battries" several days before the invasion. The son comes back to earth just after the invasion is heating up, and using his awesome energy powers desimates alot of the Invasion force's ships causing them to go into retreat.

It's an Awesome book, as are all the Brit on shots (Brit, Brit: Cold Death, and Brit: Red, White, Black, and Blue) they are on par with Invinicible and The Walking Dead.

[Grant]

If Savage Dragon wins the Presidential election, will he be the President in the Invincible book too?

Probably.

THis was the first issue of the book that really kind of made me go "eh." IT wasn't bad I just felt there was nothing that really excited me. The alternate future scene was kind of predictable (since we've seen this a 100 times before). Plus I'm kind of hoping Kirkman introduces some decent bad guys. There hasn't been a bad guy (other then Nolan I suppose) that makes things difficult for Mark.

Not a bad issue like I said I just kind of hope Kirkman shakes things up a little more.

[MatthewC]

Probably.

THis was the first issue of the book that really kind of made me go "eh." IT wasn't bad I just felt there was nothing that really excited me. The alternate future scene was kind of predictable (since we've seen this a 100 times before).

Technically, I think that was an "alternate present" rather than an "alternate future". It's what would have happened if Mark had chosen to accept his father's offer. I thought that was pretty clear, but you aren't the first person I've seen refer to it as a "possible future", so maybe there's something I'm missing?

I'm almost ashamed to admit it, but a part of me was going, "Aww, it's great to see Mark and his dad working together as a father/son team again." Even though what the father/son team was doing was killing the world's last superheroes.

[Nikita]

I have only been able to find issue 1 and 3 of this series at my shop. I think they're still looking for me as far as other back issues but I don't know if they'll be able to find them. I really enjoyed the two issues I do have and I'd love to get the rest to continue reading. Does anyone have any back issues that they're not really intersted in holding on to? (that they might be willing to sell for really cheap?) I think Invinsible is up to 20 or something now? I started this series way too late so I'm way behind. Just thought it couldn't hurt to ask.

Thankya!

[Nikita]

Sorry, spelled it wrong....invinCible. I can't spell to save my life.

[pood]

I have only been able to find issue 1 and 3 of this series at my shop. I think they're still looking for me as far as other back issues but I don't know if they'll be able to find them. I really enjoyed the two issues I do have and I'd love to get the rest to continue reading. Does anyone have any back issues that they're not really intersted in holding on to? (that they might be willing to sell for really cheap?) I think Invinsible is up to 20 or something now? I started this series way too late so I'm way behind. Just thought it couldn't hurt to ask.

Thankya!

Why don't you get the trade? They're up to 3 now. The last one didn't appeal to me though.

[Nikita]

Why don't you get the trade? They're up to 3 now. The last one didn't appeal to me though.


They're already out in trades? Wow, I didn't know they were out so fast. Ok, dumb comicbook question since I'm still newer to the game. I assumed a series had to be over or cancelled before they'd combine them in trades. Is that completely wrong?

[pood]

They're already out in trades? Wow, I didn't know they were out so fast. Ok, dumb comicbook question since I'm still newer to the game. I assumed a series had to be over or cancelled before they'd combine them in trades. Is that completely wrong?

Don't know when they started coming out, but I bought them all this year. The last one must have come out only in the last two months cause I didn't see it anywhere until this week. I think the first trade was put out because of the success of Kirkman's later projects. I think they're selling well, but his other stuff (like the zombie stuff) are doing better.

[Nikita]

Don't know when they started coming out, but I bought them all this year. The last one must have come out only in the last two months cause I didn't see it anywhere until this week. I think the first trade was put out because of the success of Kirkman's later projects. I think they're selling well, but his other stuff (like the zombie stuff) are doing better.


Well that's interesting. So they can sell trades even while the single issues are still on the stands huh? Guess if they're popular enough, they can sell anything. I'll have to check that out. Thanks for the info pood. :)

[Baron Bawookles]

Well that's interesting. So they can sell trades even while the single issues are still on the stands huh? Guess if they're popular enough, they can sell anything. I'll have to check that out. Thanks for the info pood. :)

The third volume of the trades just came out last week, the three trades together cover issues 1-12. My favorite comic right now!

[The Adventurer]

That No Trade until series Ends/Canceled is compleatly WRONG for all companies that's not common practice at all. Now collections of out of print works do happen, but it's not somekind of RULE that a series has to end before it can collected.

The first Invincible TPB collects issues 1-4 and came out around issue 5 or 6 of the ongoing.

The 2nd collected 5-8 and came out about issue 9 or 10 and the lattest collection 9-13 came out around issue 16.

This is standard practice, releaseing collections a few months after the arc it collects does it's rounds in single issues. DC does it, Marvel does it, Image doesn't sometimes.

Invincible was planed to be TPBed as soon as the series got successful enough to warrent it, (like by issue 3) and gets the TPB treatment regulary now. Same goes for his other book The Walking Dead, 2nd trade of that came out last week hot on the heels of issue 13 (collects 7-12).

[Nikita]

That No Trade until series Ends/Canceled is compleatly WRONG for all companies that's not common practice at all. Now collections of out of print works do happen, but it's not somekind of RULE that a series has to end before it can collected.

The first Invincible TPB collects issues 1-4 and came out around issue 5 or 6 of the ongoing.

The 2nd collected 5-8 and came out about issue 9 or 10 and the lattest collection 9-13 came out around issue 16.

This is standard practice, releaseing collections a few months after the arc it collects does it's rounds in single issues. DC does it, Marvel does it, Image doesn't sometimes.

Invincible was planed to be TPBed as soon as the series got successful enough to warrent it, (like by issue 3) and gets the TPB treatment regulary now. Same goes for his other book The Walking Dead, 2nd trade of that came out last week hot on the heels of issue 13 (collects 7-12).



Actually, releasing trades while a series is still out is kind of nice for those of us who are short on cash. I can just wait and buy a trade with a bunch of collected books instead of each one indiviually. The only problem is, if I really like the series, I like to collect each individual issue as well for the different covers. (when I have the money that is, which is almost never...LOL) So thankyou for the info on trades. I'll definitely look into that, especially with Invincible.

:)

[Christopher Burton]

The only problem is, if I really like the series, I like to collect each individual issue as well for the different covers.
Often the original covers are reproduced in the trade, sometimes at the beginning of each "chapter" and sometimes in a "gallery" in the back of the book.

[The Adventurer]

See I prefer to get a Varitiy of comics every wendsday. I'd rather spend 20 bucks on 7 different comics during the week then pay 20 bucks (or 15 more regularly) for 6 issues of the SAME book.

[Christopher Burton]

See I prefer to get a Varitiy of comics every wendsday. I'd rather spend 20 bucks on 7 different comics during the week then pay 20 bucks (or 15 more regularly) for 6 issues of the SAME book.
If that's what you like, go man go. :) We live in America where we can read monthly comics or TPB collections. Or -- and this is really going to blow your mind -- we can even do both. Or neither. :D

[Nikita]

Often the original covers are reproduced in the trade, sometimes at the beginning of each "chapter" and sometimes in a "gallery" in the back of the book.



Really? I didn't realize that. (forgive my ignorance guys, I just started getting back into comics a little over a year ago, so I'm still learning all of this stuff)

I did buy a Fathom trade earlier this year that combined several of Michael Turner's Fathom stories and I noticed they put of bunch of his covers all together in that book, but I guess I didn't realize they do that on a regular basis with other series as well. That's nice to know. I was always shy about buying trades because I thought I'd miss out on all the beautiful covers on the single issues. (or maybe a trade would only feature a few covers but not anything close to what I'd want to see)

Thankyou for the info. :)

[Apathy Boy]

Often the original covers are reproduced in the trade, sometimes at the beginning of each "chapter" and sometimes in a "gallery" in the back of the book.
However, it should be noted that INVINCIBLE is not one of those books. The trades don't include the original covers anywhere, nor do they include the awesome back-up strips (Deep-fried Monkey!).

Also, the first two trades were actually more expensive than buying the individual issues. That's just wrong. Maybe that's changed with the third trade or the second printings, though.

[WyA]

Hey Apathy boy. You are wrong sir. The trades do include ALL of the original covers and a ton of sketch work of the covers and pages, and character designs in the back.
The first 2 trades contained 4 issues each, they were 12.95 each, a dollar extra for all the EXTRA stuff. The 3rd Trade is 5 issues and still has a bunch of extras. The 4th trade has 5 issues also. And it's still 12.95.

WyA

[Apathy Boy]

Hey Apathy boy. You are wrong sir. The trades do include ALL of the original covers and a ton of sketch work of the covers and pages, and character designs in the back.
The first 2 trades contained 4 issues each, they were 12.95 each, a dollar extra for all the EXTRA stuff. The 3rd Trade is 5 issues and still has a bunch of extras. The 4th trade has 5 issues also. And it's still 12.95.

WyA
Crap, you're right. What the heck was I smoking?

Edit: I realize now that I was thinking of THE WALKING DEAD trade, which had no extras and did not reprint the covers. Pretty darn cheap, though.

[Alex]

I really like invincible, but think walking dead is...yknow, a lot better.
iwarrior
Oddly, i haven't enjoyed any work kurkman has done at marvel.

[Predator]

I've now read the second and third Invincible TPB's and am hooked on the series. When is thr fourth trade coming out?

[Headhunter]

Anyone have links to reviews of this series? I've always been interested, but haven't checked them out to date...

[Grant]

I've now read the second and third Invincible TPB's and am hooked on the series. When is thr fourth trade coming out?

IIRC the storyline that the 4th trade will collect hasn't finished yet.
I think Kirkman said it will be something like eight issues. Could be wrong...

[Inkthinker]

The trades usually are released at the same time as the first issue not included in the trade... so if they trade collects 1-6, it hits the shelves around the same time as issue 7.

I'm not sure what the next trade collects, though.

Newsarama has done reviews of the series, I'm sure. Both Ryan and Robert are known to occasionally cruise the boards at Penciljack.com (as "uncle wya" and "RobertKirkman", respectively) and Ryan also has a DeviantArt account (http://wya.deviantart.com/), making him one easy guy to talk to.

[Chris Thomas]

IIRC the storyline that the 4th trade will collect hasn't finished yet.
I think Kirkman said it will be something like eight issues. Could be wrong...

what is the story line that needs to finish?

***light spoilers below*******












1. the angstrom saga?
2. the mom/son strained relationship saga?
3. the martian thing?


I love this comic, but each of these story lines seems to have many issues to go..

[Predator]

Barnes & Noble's website and Amazon.com have it listed for release in March. But the book wasn't in Image's solicitations for March. Maybe there was an error somewhere in the store's info.

[Grant]

..not sure...

Ah here (http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=4305) it is.

Issue 14-19 so the next issue will be collected so it's six issues plus a short story from Image Summer Special.

It was solicited for this month. So expect it around the time issue 20 is published. So... March?

[Grant]

Invincible is easily one of my top five books right now has one flaw: it has one of the worst rogues gallery this side of Aquaman. Either it's a dull design, powers or just plain stupid (Mammoth anyone).

Issue 19 somewhat rectifys it where Invincible and Titan (who while an entertaing character is your standard issue rock guy). team up to take down Machine (the bad guy in charge). Machine Head is pretty lame and so is his second in command Isotope. Machine Head kind of reminds me of Savage Dragons old bad guy Overlord. And in the history of cool Savage Dragon bad guys Overlord kind of ranks towards the bottom for me.

Anyways Machine Head humorously introduces some pretty solid bad guys. Battle Beast who actual kicks some serious ass, Magnaattack who looks Shredder with magneto powers, Kurskk standard issue electricity guy with a sharp costume, Furnace not as cool looking as Machine Head says he is but compared to other Invincible bad guys he's pretty spiffy look, Magmaniac who has a funny moment where he burns a hole in the floor that he's standing on and my favorite Tether Tyrant who weird strecthy muscles coming out of his chest and swings ouur boy Mark around.

So these are some decent additions to the line up Hopefully there is more coming. But the story unfortunately ends where Machine Head is beaten and Titan takes over the gang. Though I admit Titan looks much cooler in a a suit in tie.

And WIlliam getting dumped by Eve while in his tighty whiteys was pretty funny. And it's scary how Mark isn't dealing with his mother's drinking.

[Chris Thomas]

this comic series is incredible. each issue is a complete blast. he has so many story lines going right now, I can't believe it! where was angstrom this issue btw?

Is that battle cat dude some sort of reference to he-man or something?

tetherman-.. can't.. stop..laughing...

this is what comics are all about.

[Grant]

this comic series is incredible. each issue is a complete blast. he has so many story lines going right now, I can't believe it! where was angstrom this issue btw?

Is that battle cat dude some sort of reference to he-man or something?

tetherman-.. can't.. stop..laughing...

this is what comics are all about.

There was minature action figure line called Battle Beasts back in the 80s. They were humonoid animals wearing barbarian armor and had little holgrams on their chests. I remember my friend Ryan got a shitload of them for his 8th Birthday (he didn't even want them). I guess they were a cheap gift back in the day.

[RedBaron]

I'm going to check out the INVINCIBLE #0 issue that's coming out in April to sample the series. If I like it enough, I'll try and go back to pick up the back issues

[Grant]

I'm going to check out the INVINCIBLE #0 issue that's coming out in April to sample the series. If I like it enough, I'll try and go back to pick up the back issues

It's fairly easy to jump into. The last couple issues up to issue 14 are very reader friendly.

[Karl J. Barnes]

Reading Invincible is like reading a Marvel comic from the 70s. Corny, fun and it has characters that ring true. I love that Invincible's mom seems to be developing an alcohol problem, which rings true. I mean, if I had found out what she found out about husband, I think that I would go on a bender, too.

[Grant]

Reading Invincible is like reading a Marvel comic from the 70s. Corny, fun and it has characters that ring true. I love that Invincible's mom seems to be developing an alcohol problem, which rings true. I mean, if I had found out what she found out about husband, I think that I would go on a bender, too.

hell that's how my drinking problem started. Actually no... it started drinking when Terra betrayed the Teen Titans. When I found out Nolan was evil I turned to smack.

[SirChasm]

hell that's how my drinking problem started. Actually no... it started drinking when Terra betrayed the Teen Titans. When I found out Nolan was evil I turned to smack.

hahahaha that is so wrong dude! god what did you do when gwen died??? :D lol

[bloodyarts]

I've been following Invincible for awhile now, since #4 or 5. Everything leading to the stunning Issue 12 was great, but the book seemed to hit a lull in the issues that followed.

While the book wasn't heavy on action (though there were certainly plenty of fights, invasions, and whatnot), what Kirkman was really doing was setting up new plotlines, and fleshing out some still going from the earlier issues.

Issue 19 livens things up more than they have been in the past 6 or 7 issues while sticking to formula, which is character development. Pretty much everyone's story is a little more advanced here, except Robot Man and the black guy from the present/future. Add in the kickass brawl and new threat at the end, and the book once again reclaims its status as "probably the best comic book on the market", as the cover so brazenly announces.

Gotta wonder how what is basically a strong rock-guy and a teleporter are going to pose much of a threat, especially since their guard just got their asses kicked and the only true match for Invincible and the other good guys (Battle Beast) found them unworthy and left.

All in all, this issue provided the kick the series has been missing since Issue 12 and I'm once again looking forward to the next issue with much anticipation, instead of the "oh, Invincible's out... it can wait 'til next week" approach I had taken.

[MatthewC]

Gotta wonder how what is basically a strong rock-guy and a teleporter are going to pose much of a threat, especially since their guard just got their asses kicked and the only true match for Invincible and the other good guys (Battle Beast) found them unworthy and left.

Rock guy explained it while Invincible was flying him around, Mark just didn't listen properly.

Rock guy doesn't have to pose a serious threat, because when he fights he's trying to kill the heroes, but the heroes aren't trying to kill him. The worst that happens is that he'll get hauled off to jail for a while, from whence he'll inevitably escape. So basically, he can afford to take greater risks.

He also showed an unexpected ability at manipulation, the way he set up the whole situation to his advantage. So if you were asking in the meta sense of, how will he pose a threat in a way that's entertaining for the book, the answer is that he's a villain who will be dangerous by making sure that the circumstances of a fight will be to his advantage, if he does fight. He's already figured out that he can't beat Invincible straight-up, so he can proceed from there.

[bloodyarts]

He [Titan] also showed an unexpected ability at manipulation, the way he set up the whole situation to his advantage. So if you were asking in the meta sense of, how will he pose a threat in a way that's entertaining for the book, the answer is that he's a villain who will be dangerous by making sure that the circumstances of a fight will be to his advantage, if he does fight.

Good point, there. Manipulation may be his greatest asset, since physically, he's certainly no match for Invincible, Immortal Man or maybe even Monster Girl. Still, his guard was beaten with little effort. I should hope the scope and magnitude of his machinations extend beyond, "kill all the heroes because they don't fight dirty". His explanation made perfect sense for the Vultures and Shockers of the super-villain community (which he was once part of), but when you climb up to the Kingpin's level, it's a whole new ball game.

Going all out to kill heroes while the heroes don't fight to kill hasn't worked out for most villains. I would think that if you plan on killing heroes, you need to pose a serious threat. Titan doesn't. Not physically, anyway, unless he's a Norman Osborne archetype that gets heroes and anyone who has an association with them in their personal lives.

Eh, at this point, we really don't know what Titan's capable of, just what he's NOT capable of. If Kirkman is taking the time to put this guy into a position of power, he must have big plans for the rockhead.

[Sekhemket]

I think the issues since 12 have been in a lull because, well, Invincible is in a lull. How well has he seriously dealt with the issues surrounding his father? His life has slowly returned to "normal," but he's really just going through the motions. He is enjoying being Invincible more than Mark right now, and that may be a scary thing down the road (look what happended with his dad!).

I like the humor of machine head's words when describing his people.

"Tether Tyrant. Now sure exactly what is is that he does... but he does it well."
"Furance - he's a personal favorite of mine. He just looks cool, and that counts for alot these days."

Invincible is one of those comics that doesn't need an extreme amount of action or violence to be good. I always recommend people check out the background action; you miss a lot of stuff if you don't! Most comics don't even worry about background action or details, which is a lost skill.

[Christopher Burton]

Reviewer Greg McElhatton reviews Invincible #18 here (http://www.icomics.com/rev_012605_invincible.shtml).

[WyA]

This thread rocks. Hey Christopher, thanks for posting that review. It's great to hear what people think. :D

WyA

[Christopher Burton]

This thread rocks. Hey Christopher, thanks for posting that review. It's great to hear what people think. :D

If you liked that one, then you'll really dig Randy Lander's review of #19 (http://www.thefourthrail.com/reviews/snapjudgments/012405/invincible19.shtml). :D

[Benjamin Ong]

Newsarama caught up to chat with Robertk Kirkman about Invincible, it's upcoming $0.50 #0 issue, and where things are going...

http://newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=26697

[Metaphysician]

Are there any out there??

[DF2506]

I got Invincible TPB #3 today and...wow! It was well worth the wait! Just an awesome trade! I am officially hooked on Invincible!

I definitly liked the stories about you-know-who and Invincible fighting & talking and the aftermath issue the most, but the rest of the issues were pretty good too! I just couldn't put this book down!

I can't wait to read the next trade!

DF2506
" Savage Dragon and Invincible are definitly my two favorite books right now! "

[Christopher Burton]

I just read this. This kind of hacks me off.

On the heels of the Paramount announcement, Image will be soliciting a hardcover INVINCIBLE edition, collecting the first thirteen issues of the Eisner-nominated book. INVINCIBLE: THE ULTIMATE COLLECTION, VOL. 1, will clock in at an impressive 400 pages and will retail for $34.95. The issues collected feature artwork from series co-creator Cory Walker and current INVINCIBLE artist Ryan Ottley, and will contain a plethora of bonus material, as well as an introduction by superstar writer Brian Michael Bendis.

I'm not one to gripe or criticize Image Comics too much, but MAN!!! Why can't comic book publishers be like regular book publishers and publish the hard cover edition first!? I'm sure there's some "businessy" reason, but shoot. If they'd published this edition first, I would have bought it. Since they didn't and I have the first three Invincible trade paperbacks, too bad for them. I'm not shelling out 35 clams for something I already own. Word of honor.

[Dave Cote]

I just read this. This kind of hacks me off.



I'm not one to gripe or criticize Image Comics too much, but MAN!!! Why can't comic book publishers be like regular book publishers and publish the hard cover edition first!? I'm sure there's some "businessy" reason, but shoot. If they'd published this edition first, I would have bought it. Since they didn't and I have the first three Invincible trade paperbacks, too bad for them. I'm not shelling out 35 clams for something I already own. Word of honor.

I totally agree I work in a bookstore and all I hear is when is this coming out in paperback.Comics have it backwards. I just bought all 3 trades recently and will be damned if I'm going to shell out $50 Cdn. That said I would have preferred a hardcover but now thats not going to happen.

[Tony Danza]

where's that hardcover information from?
did it mention any chance of the benito & nate back-ups being reprinted as well? i swear, if they put out a trade of just those, i'd buy three copies!

[Apathy Boy]

I just read this. This kind of hacks me off.



I'm not one to gripe or criticize Image Comics too much, but MAN!!! Why can't comic book publishers be like regular book publishers and publish the hard cover edition first!? I'm sure there's some "businessy" reason, but shoot. If they'd published this edition first, I would have bought it. Since they didn't and I have the first three Invincible trade paperbacks, too bad for them. I'm not shelling out 35 clams for something I already own. Word of honor.
You have a right to be upset, but ... geez, it's hard to blame Image on this one. When the first INVINCIBLE trade came out, do you think anyone realized that the comic would even make it to issue 13?

In one of his earlier letter columns, Kirkman said he'd love to do a hardcover, but sales of the monthly would have to drastically improve for that to happen. I don't think he expected that they'd essentially double in a year. (Besides, does Image even print all that many hardcovers? Apart from AGE OF BRONZE, I can't think of any.)


did it mention any chance of the benito & nate back-ups being reprinted as well? i swear, if they put out a trade of just those, i'd buy three copies!You and me both, buddy. Man, I love Benito and Nate's backups. I'd even go so far as to say I like 'em better than I like INVINCIBLE itself.

Deep Fried Monkey!

[Christopher Burton]

where's that hardcover information from?

Oops. Sorry, I usually provide a link (http://www.imagecomics.com/cgi-bin/index.cgi?main=news&sub1=press).

You have a right to be upset, but ... geez, it's hard to blame Image on this one. When the first INVINCIBLE trade came out, do you think anyone realized that the comic would even make it to issue 13?

In one of his earlier letter columns, Kirkman said he'd love to do a hardcover, but sales of the monthly would have to drastically improve for that to happen. I don't think he expected that they'd essentially double in a year. (Besides, does Image even print all that many hardcovers? Apart from AGE OF BRONZE, I can't think of any.)

Yeah, I was just venting. Nowadays most non-DC/Marvel comics aren't guaranteed to make it to issue 3. (Some DC/Marvel comics aren't guaranteed this.) And the overhead involved with publishing a hard cover is probably way higher than a trade paperback. So I understand why the comic publishers don't follow the same model as other books publishers. It just bugs me is all. :)

[Predator]

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for hardcovers and all, but ah.......where's the fourth trade already?!?!

[Toonimator]

So... new issue out today! The Angstroms' project is near readiness... and now Cecil's boys know something's up! Mark goes on another job for Cecil and worries about his relationship with Amber (cover of next issue kinda puts to rest some of those concerns... for now!) and...

...at long last... a tiny sliver of insight into Robot!

Can't wait for the next ish!

[foxfire]

Just read the first three TPBs (issues 1-12) and...

I loved it! A really fun and enjoyable read. Sure its not the greatest superhero story but it is pretty awesome. A had a couple of quibbles though, basically about how the superheros are being treated. So a lot of them don't have masks? Atom Eve just waltzs around and then is surprised when her physics teacher recognizes her? I mean I know that Superman doesn't have a mask, but I thought no one recognizes him because of Super-hypnotism or something. I just don't buy that no one would recognize Omni Man.

Overall a damn good book... definately be looking for more.

[The Xenos]

Gosh dman. I read my friend's first three trades. I'm debating on waiting for the fouth. When's that sucker coming out?!

-Xenos

[Grant]

Pretty soon I think. A few weeks at least.

[Kevinroc]

The 4th TPB should be out now. I've now read volumes 1-4. This is just a great title. A whole lot of fun.

[RedBaron]

When does Invincible #0 come out?

I thought it was supposed to be in stores on April 13th. Was it delayed? Was I wrong from the start?

[cosmicspidey]

When does Invincible #0 come out?

I thought it was supposed to be in stores on April 13th. Was it delayed? Was I wrong from the start?

Came out today. Great recap of the series so far. I'm sure this'll drag in a few more readers. This is the very definiteion of a jumping on point.

[cutchemist42]

Hello, I was walking through the comic book today just looking at other comics even though I only buy Amazing Spiderman and New Avengers and all of a sudden I saw this invincible comic and the cover looked alittle sexy so I browsed through and wow I loved the art and from reading this thread it seems like hes just a kid around my age so Im really interested in this.

Does the title come highly reccommended to you guys and what should I look at for a jumping on point.

[Corey Dreher]

So.......what is this comic about?

[Michael P]

So.......what is this comic about?
Superman's teenage kid.

[Grant]

Superman's teenage kid.

Not exactly more like...

spoilers Zod's teenage kid

[Karl J. Barnes]

Not exactly more like...

spoilers Zod's teenage kid

I was thinking a combination of the two myself. Sure, Omni-man came for the purpose of conqueroring Earth, but I think some of that heroing rubbed off on him. I mean, why not kill Mark, when he had the chance? I wonder, if maybe his superiors might have pushed him and maybe threatened his family, so he did his ravage the planet thing.

[The Xenos]

*lazy spoiler tags*
Oh come on, no love for Goku and Dragon Ball Z? Omniman is so Saiyen in that nice twist.
*/lazy spoiler tags*

Anyway, I have finally caught up with all the issues. I even got my own copy trades 1 & 2. This is a really great and fun book. How can you not love a book with a Principal Winslow at Reginald Vel Johnson Highschool? Ha! Plus the names of the trades are so horribly lame they're cool.

on the wings of my dreams,
-Xenos

[Grant]

Anyway, I have finally caught up with all the issues. I even got my own copy trades 1 & 2. This is a really great and fun book. How can you not love a book with a Principal Winslow at Reginald Vel Johnson Highschool? Ha! Plus the names of the trades are so horribly lame they're cool.

on the wings of my dreams,
-Xenos

"Horribly lame?"

Naming storylines of your comic after sitcoms is the only way to go.

Anxiously awaiting the "Hanging With Mr. Cooper" and "Step by Step" storylines.

[miss5050]

so i picked #0 and im reading #3 right now :)

[cosmicspidey]

"Horribly lame?"

Naming storylines of your comic after sitcoms is the only way to go.

Anxiously awaiting the "Hanging With Mr. Cooper" and "Step by Step" storylines.


Oh my God, how did I not realize that was what he was doing. Eight is Enough only vaguely raised a red flag, and that one wasn't even on when I was alive. How could the first trade have been anything other than Family Matters, now that I think about it? Hopefully Vol. 5 will be called Saved By the Bell: The College Years. :D Or more likely, Undeclared.

[Grant]

"Step by Step" wouldn't be a bad title for a storyline. Maybe an evil robot that looks like John Ritter marries his mom.

[DetourAndy]

Just wondering what all your thoughts are on "Invincible". Some people claim this is the best modern comic book series in ages, and I am interested in picking up some trades of it. What makes it so good? Which trades should I focus on? Your thoughts would be appreciated. Cheers,

Andy

[Grant]

I'd start with the first trade and move on from there. There's also the really fantastic 0 issue that's only 50 cents and gives a nice primer of the past 22 issues.

[cosmicspidey]

Maybe an evil robot that looks like John Ritter marries his mom.


That would be called "Ted."

[Hellfan]

This is too great! I just made a post about Spider-man being the only comic I enjoy - and then I see this! (http://www.imagecomics.com/cgi-bin/index.cgi?main=features&sub1=onlinecomics) :eek:

Kirkman you got a new fan!

[Michael P]

This is too great! I just made a post about Spider-man being the only comic I enjoy - and then I see this! (http://www.imagecomics.com/cgi-bin/index.cgi?main=features&sub1=onlinecomics) :eek:

Kirkman you got a new fan!In that case, pick up some of his Marvel Team-Up stuff, as he's got a good handle on the ol' Webhead there.

[Predator]

I think it's a great series. An excellent main story with very good subplots and one-shots, with some very competent art to boot. The book also moves along at a very forward pace, something important actually happens in each issue. No decompression here!

I would say that the book is one of the best superhero books to come out in quite a while. If you like superhero's, you should like Invincible.

I would recommend picking up the first trade and giving it a try. If you like it, then you will absolutely like the next three.

[HartyPotter]

yay, natch. If you want to commit to it a little more than just the first trade, get the upcoming hardcover. It's still a bargain to the issue issues, and I believe it covers the first 13 issues, which are really important to the story. Because the main plotline for Invincible shows up around issue #11 or 12.

[leg end]

Basically, this is in my top five books at the mo. the art is wonderful, colourful, simplistic in some ways, totally effective- when there's blood flying around against the style used it seems more shocking than many realistic style books.
The stories are wonderful, pure enjoyment from start to finish and everything plays out nicely for future issues.
The characters are also well written, especially a supporting cast that could have been majorly weak.
It's a fun book, probably THE fun book out there.

[Michael P]

I love it like a woman.

[tk421atpost]

I wouldn't exactly call it the greatest thing since sliced bread, but it isn't bad.

[josh straightedge]

Quite the good book.

[nHammer]

One of the best superhero books currently being published.

[Grant]

I love it like a woman.

Is that why the pages stick together?

[Kevinroc]

A definite "yay" from me. This series acknowledges how fun the superhero concept can be. How crazy it can be. How dark it can be. But it never forgets how uplifting the super hero genre is supposed to be.

[cosmicspidey]

Probably the best super hero comic in the universe. Minus the "probably."

[mgs]

nay..................:(

[Gaz]

nay..................:(
Why, may I ask?

[JeffreyWKramer]

Probably the best super hero comic in the universe. Minus the "probably."


The one rival right now, in my opinion, is RUNAWAYS. RUNAWAYS and INVINCIBLE are definitely the two best superhero books on the market right now. As far as which of those two is better, too close to call IMHO.

To anyone at all interested in super-heroes, I can't recommend INVINCIBLE highly enough.

[DF2506]

Last Thursday, I got the Invincible Vol. 4 TPB.

It was GREAT! This series just keeps getting better and better! I can't wait to read the next trade! Anybody have any idea when Vol. 5 will be out?

Enjoyed Vol. 4 quiete a bit. Best trade so far, imo. The Mars issue and the underwater issue were extra good, but heck I liked all the issues alot too.

The continuing threads are really great too. I like the Mark/Amber relationship, I like the Mark/Eve friendship, I hope that Mark's mom will get better, and I'm still wondering when Mark's dad will pop back up. Plus: where do you guys think that dimenison hopping guy storyline is going? Its interesting, but I have no idea where its going and what it has to do with Mark! Can't wait to find out!

Awesome series!

DF2506
" Needs to read all four of the trades again soon! "

[Grant]

Last Thursday, I got the Invincible Vol. 4 TPB.

It was GREAT! This series just keeps getting better and better! I can't wait to read the next trade! Anybody have any idea when Vol. 5 will be out?

Well seeing how that storyline isn't quite finished I say give it a few months.

I'm willing to bet good money it's going to be called "Growing Pains" or "Facts of Life"

[Grant]

Oh my God, how did I not realize that was what he was doing.

I only realized it quite recently when the fourth book was annouced.

[SirChasm]

.......yay

[AoAMimic]

I say yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay.

[Impulsive]

A big fat "Yay!" Invincible is a celebration of everything super-hero-ish and is one of the best comics currently on the market. There's something about it that makes it different from other books of its kind and is always a breath of fresh air to read. The amazing artwork and colouring helps, too.

With this and The Walking Dead, Robert Kirkman can do no wrong.

[Karl J. Barnes]

I love it like a woman.


EWWWWW! Is wet and sloppy after you read it??

On the topic at hand, this is a fun fun FUN comic book with characters that have a personality and some nice twists to the old superhero cliches.

[WyA]

:D Most definitely!

WyA

[K'Nort]

I've been reading it in trades via the local library, and every time I finish one, I think 'this is a really fun book and worth paying for monthly issues.' But my shop never has the back issues to close the gap.

Walking Dead, however, I've been buying and loving per-issue from day one.

[Christopher Burton]

I say yea. To be honest, I don't like superheroes like I once did. But I love Invincible. To me, Invincible, Wildguard, and Savage Dragon are what a superhero comic should be. If others books in the genre were this good, I'd still be reading them.

[Jack]

YAY

It's one of the few books that I can buy over and over. I bought the singles. Bought the trades *coughdownloadedtheissuestoreadwheneveriwantcoughc ough*. I'll probably end up buying the hardcovers as well.

Scratch that probably, I know it's just a matter of time.

DAAAAMN YOUUUUUUUUUUUU KIIIIIIIIIIIIIRKMAAAAAAAAAAAAN!!!!

[Gaz]

YAY

It's one of the few books that I can buy over and over. I bought the singles. Bought the trades *coughdownloadedtheissuestoreadwheneveriwantcoughc ough*. I'll probably end up buying the hardcovers as well.

Scratch that probably, I know it's just a matter of time.

DAAAAMN YOUUUUUUUUUUUU KIIIIIIIIIIIIIRKMAAAAAAAAAAAAN!!!!
The trades are worth it for the forewords. Mark Waid and Kurt Busiek's are hysterical. Particularly Mark's punchline... :D

[Jack]

The trades are worth it for the forewords. Mark Waid and Kurt Busiek's are hysterical. Particularly Mark's punchline... :D
Oh I know. They have pride of place in my nice new trade shelving system.

[yeoman]

This series can not be given enough praise. Really. There are few othe rbooks out there I would recommend like I do Invincible.

[watchinginkdry]

Pretty good comic; but storylines are left hanging and untended for too long, and the teenage people are way too interchangeable.

[Gaz]

Pretty good comic; but storylines are left hanging and untended for too long, and the teenage people are way too interchangeable.
Huh? Every plot is kept bubbling along even if it's not the main focus of the issue except for ones that by necessity need a long time left before the payoff.
Which plot threads are being neglected in your opinion?
And what do you mean "interchangable", Eve, Amber and William are all good solidly developed characters.

[watchinginkdry]

Huh? Every plot is kept bubbling along even if it's not the main focus of the issue except for ones that by necessity need a long time left before the payoff.
Which plot threads are being neglected in your opinion?
And what do you mean "interchangable", Eve, Amber and William are all good solidly developed characters.

Nah, I don't think they're "bubbling along"--they're just hanging, with nothing happening and no tension. His mum has moped along apparently doing nothing but drinking and crying for ages, the staffing problems on the superhero team are always just about to get bad without much ever actually happening, and the multiplicitous dude got dropped for too many issues.

And both visually and in terms of behavior, I can barely tell the various teenagers apart unless they're in costume. (See "Runaways" for actual development in both dimensions.)

[Gaz]

Nah, I don't think they're "bubbling along"--they're just hanging, with nothing happening and no tension. His mum has moped along apparently doing nothing but drinking and crying for ages, the staffing problems on the superhero team are always just about to get bad without much ever actually happening, and the multiplicitous dude got dropped for too many issues.

And both visually and in terms of behavior, I can barely tell the various teenagers apart unless they're in costume. (See "Runaways" for actual development in both dimensions.)
Given that there are only really three teens that have been heavily involved and are superheroes, and they all look drastically different, I honestly can't understand that.
Invincible is different in that it moves slower in resolving things but still has pace in each issue, so Debbie's grief, depression and alcoholism isn't just going to disappear. Mark has to work up to confronting her, which many people can tell you, isn't always the easiest thing to do and can take time.
The "problems" got temporaraily stalled by adding new members, like The Immortal.
And I love Runaways, it's almost as good as Invincible, and is thus my #2 superhero book, between Invincible and Young Avengers.

[Christopher Burton]

Oh I know. They have pride of place in my nice new trade shelving system.

Oo, do tell. I'm an organization junkie.

[Forefinger]

After flipping through a few trades, and reading issue 1 on imagecomics.com, I'm a convert. Though, I'm planning on collecting the series via trades. I have pre-ordered the hardcover, and TPB #4 to try to get up to date.

[Michael P]

Ack! They printed my letter!

[Grant]

Ack! They printed my letter!

Neeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrd!!!!!!!

[Grant]

I'm glad this book is coming out more regular.

This issue barely features Mark (because our hero was getting some). But it features Allen the Alien (I remember we used to call my brother Allen that) one of the best Invincible supporting characters. It was fun to see Allen's origin, interacting with the Coalition of Planets in scene that was thankfully shorter then any Council/Senate scene in Star Wars and The Matrix and getting some with blue Alien chick. All told in Stan Lee style narration (which wasn't all that funny but hey the getting some narration was pretty chuckle worthy)

Oh wait I forgot to mention... Major SPOILERS Allen gets the shit kicked out of him by a group of Viltrumite's who want to know a)where Nolan is and b) about Mark and we later found out the Coalition has a mole in their organization. I'm thinking it's blue Alien chick

Top notch stuff from Robert Kirkman and Ryan Ottley.

[cosmicspidey]

So a new issue came out? Looks like it's time to visit the other comic shop since my regular one hasn't started receiving it yet.

[Ronald Bryan]

Ack! They printed my letter!
Science Dog?!? Come on, man.

[Draconomicon]

I have only four things to say about Invincible #23..

1. Goooooo Invincible! :D

2. Goooooo Allan! :D

3. AAAHHHH!! Allan! NO!

4. *preview for #24* AAAHHHH!! Invincible! NO!

GREAT issue!
Loved it!

[Tribalman]

yay yay yay :D

[Jack]

I wasn't that impressed by #23. Too expository and moved too quickly. I understand why it had to be like that (and the style pastiche as well) but it still annoyed me. As always though the twists saved the day.

Mark gets beat up next issue? Probably by the Viltrumites eh? But why wouldn't they kill him? I'm thinking it's a red herring and it's someone or thing else.

Anyone else notice that one of the Council members looks a lot like Battle Beast?

Oh, and the mole is obviously Thadeus. Dude is human looking and has A MUSTACHE! He's a Viltrumite! The beard is a decoy! Plus Allen is now going to report only to him, how convenient.

Liked the tie-in to Tech Jacket. Tech Jacket was cool.

[cosmicspidey]

Anyone else notice that one of the Council members looks a lot like Battle Beast?

Oh, and the mole is obviously Thadeus. Dude is human looking and has A MUSTACHE! He's a Viltrumite! The beard is a decoy! Plus Allen is now going to report only to him, how convenient.


Assumedly there's an entire race of creatures that Battle Beast is a part of (was that really spoiler tag worthy?).

And it seems almost too obvious that Thadeus is the mole.

[Jack]

Assumedly there's an entire race of creatures that Battle Beast is a part of (was that really spoiler tag worthy?).

And it seems almost too obvious that Thadeus is the mole.
Because he has a MUSTACHE!

And yeah I know there's a whole race of Battle Beasty type people, I just thought it was a neat touch that one was on the Council.

[Grant]

So we got a couple weeks until the next issue so who do you think is going to kick Mark's ass?

Immortal?
A Viltrumite?
Battle Beast?
Levy?
Robot?
Nolan?

[BKole]

Personnally, after the build up with Allen, I reckon a Viltrumite comes and kicks Mark around.

[kartik]

repeating my post in the image solicitations for september

wooo invincible vol. 5 - Fiiinaaaaalllllllllyyyyyyyyyyyyy -
HAts off to they many guys who predicted it would be called facts of life

with added :) :) :D :D

[kartik]

Oh one more thing - If a viltrumite kicks him around, wouldn't it be cool if atom eve stops him? With her power, she should theoretically be able to turn an attackers body into *insert soft mushy substance here*

[TomGun13]

I just picked up the first tpb and enjoyed it. It was fun. I might pick up the next 3 trades this weekend.

[zilla31]

i started in w/ the trades too (only read vol 1 so far) but REALLY enjoyed it... something about the art and writing is very refreshing. i also recommend picking up the 50c #0 issue - even though that gives away some stuff if you haven't gotten up to #22 yet (i haven't but i don't mind the spoiles - i'm glad i read #0 so i know what i'm looking forward to) :)

[cory w]

It's OBVIOUSLY the Immortal the kicks Mark's ass.

He's CERTAINLY got a score to settle.

[cory w]

I'M a big fan, personally.

[Mike Bullock]

I'M a big fan, personally.

I dunno... you're actually smaller than I am, unless you've gained weight since the last time I saw ya...

[params7]

Nay. nay again.

[Sharcque]

Kirkman is a writer who has yet to let us down on anything he's done so far, and Invincible is his best work by far, so yeah, it's a big "yay" from me.

[HartyPotter]

I'm pretty sure it's not the Immortal. The most obvious reason being that