Invincible (News, Reviews, Spoilers)

[GRANT!]

re: Invincible #63

Something does happen in this issue.

Well Kirkman ain't lying about Eve. Add another one to the Fridge. That sucks I really liked her.

That said I'm loving that Conquest cat. What a dastard.

[Kusanagi]

Kirkman is an evil evil evil man, and I love this book.

R.I.P Eve :frown:

[Michael P]

Someone push Eve out of the way, I can't get to the leftover pot roast.

[GRANT!]

I'm thinking she might pull through :wink:

[Dave H]

It's not like there aren't a couple thousand other alternate dimensions with other Atom Eves in them.

[GRANT!]

I'm thinking if the girl has the power to create pretty much anything I don't think she would go out making a pretty pink force field.

At least I hope not. Cause I'm leaning towards "that kind of sucks" if that's case.

Wait and see I suppose. Still got one more issue of this.

[malephoenix]

I'm pretty sure she's dead. That's Kirkman's style.

[GRANT!]

I'm pretty sure she's dead. That's Kirkman's style.

SHE COULD PULL THROUGH!

Or at least somehow deliver the killing blow on Conquest. Give her that much man.

[Dave H]

SHE COULD PULL THROUGH!

Or at least somehow deliver the killing blow on Conquest. Give her that much man.
I'd like for that to happen, but I think it's a bit of a stretch for her limiter to come off now and her have enough left to fix herself and kill him.

Then again....Angstrom survived getting pounded into pulp...

[NickGuy]

I frigging LOVE FCO!!!!!!!

[cookepuss]

Eve's death should come as no surprise. The spoiler has been in the solicitations and the cover images for months. I think that Eve's death will change more than a few things.

1) Her parents will absolutely HATE Mark now more than ever.
2) The superhero community will probably blame Mark for not taking care of the Viltrumite issue when he had the chance, instead of postponing it.
3) Lately, Mark has been wondering whether or not Oliver was right about the ends justifying the means. Mark will most certainly kill Conquest. He might have to drop a nuke on him or punch him into a volcano, but Eve's death is going to hit him hard.

The other only possible way I would foresee Mark defeating Conquest is if the supervillain community bands together to prevent Earth's takeover. We already know that the heroes are either dead or disoriented, but not much mention of the baddies. Like it or not, most of Mark's enemies don't necessarily want either the Earth conquered or Mark killed by anybody other than themselves. Villain logic. Just read Kirkman's Destroyer.

Whatever the case may be, we're definitely going to be seeing a more moody, brooding, and maybe even darker Invincible. Emo Mark. :) It's probably for the best though, considering that the invasion is coming in a handful of issues. He's going to need to be as pissed off as possible. As for what happens AFTER.... Evil beware. :biggrin:

[Dave H]

Eve's death should come as no surprise. The spoiler has been in the solicitations and the cover images for months. I think that Eve's death will change more than a few things.

1) Her parents will absolutely HATE Mark now more than ever.
2) The superhero community will probably blame Mark for not taking care of the Viltrumite issue when he had the chance, instead of postponing it.
3) Lately, Mark has been wondering whether or not Oliver was right about the ends justifying the means. Mark will most certainly kill Conquest. He might have to drop a nuke on him or punch him into a volcano, but Eve's death is going to hit him hard.

The other only possible way I would foresee Mark defeating Conquest is if the supervillain community bands together to prevent Earth's takeover. We already know that the heroes are either dead or disoriented, but not much mention of the baddies. Like it or not, most of Mark's enemies don't necessarily want either the Earth conquered or Mark killed by anybody other than themselves. Villain logic. Just read Kirkman's Destroyer.

Whatever the case may be, we're definitely going to be seeing a more moody, brooding, and maybe even darker Invincible. Emo Mark. :) It's probably for the best though, considering that the invasion is coming in a handful of issues. He's going to need to be as pissed off as possible. As for what happens AFTER.... Evil beware. :biggrin:
I don't think anyone in the Superhero community is going to blame Mark at all. The only way he could take care of it, would be to side with them, since he couldn't fight them at that point. Every one he's encountered has mopped the floor with him.

Mark's going to hate himself too, seeing as how, from where I was sitting, he could have helped Eve instead of trying to distract Conquest, getting himself injured and leaving Eve alone by herself against a threat she didn't understand.

He's also going to have some words with Cecil for putting her in that situation.

Mark's going to beat Conquest just by rage alone, I think. It's what Conquest was asking for to begin with, to see his Viltrumite rage.

Either way, Eve was his rock. She has been smoothing away his self doubts and insecurities since they got together. He's going to be a complete wreck, and it's going to be fantastic.

[cookepuss]

I don't think anyone in the Superhero community is going to blame Mark at all.
Maybe. Maybe not. Certain people in said community might. After all, Mark had a fair chance to avoid it coming down to this.

Mark's going to hate himself too, seeing as how, from where I was sitting, he could have helped Eve instead of trying to distract Conquest, getting himself injured and leaving Eve alone by herself against a threat she didn't understand.
I don't actually think he could have helped her at that point. He himself was pretty effed up. Not even sure he's got it all together enough to finish the job now. If he does, it's all adrenaline and rage.

He's also going to have some words with Cecil for putting her in that situation.
Yeah. That's a big shock. Cecil being a dick. :rolleyes:

Mark's going to beat Conquest just by rage alone, I think. It's what Conquest was asking for to begin with, to see his Viltrumite rage.
The question remains, HOW beaten will Conquest be. Mark is still developing. His powers are still growing. Conquest has him by decades, not to mention the experience. I think that Mark will kill him, but Kirkman's going to have to justify his ability to do so. Mark's battered, less experienced, and far less powerful. It's going to take some major creativity. Shame that they can't reanimate those alternate Invincibles in time. That would even the odds.

Either way, Eve was his rock. She has been smoothing away his self doubts and insecurities since they got together.
True. He'll blame himself to be sure and probably fall apart, but they were still really coming together. Mark looked to her for support to be sure, but I wonder if William's death might not hit him harder. Mark & Eve's relationship was really only just starting in earnest. It's been a lot of back and forth before that. Unless Mark somehow convinces himself that Eve was "the one" I can't quite see it having the "Gwen Stacy Effect" and crippling him for years.

He's going to be a complete wreck, and it's going to be fantastic.
Yeah. Just imagine his reaction to Amber trying to be there for him. He's going to probably push everybody away. Maybe even forcing Oliver to permanently unmask in a humiliating manner, for the kid's own protection.

[Dave H]

Maybe. Maybe not. Certain people in said community might. After all, Mark had a fair chance to avoid it coming down to this.
Mark could never have avoided this without giving in and actually taking over the world.

Could he have lied to Conquest and said "yeah sure, see? world in shambles, I did this. It's going according to plan", but as we've seen since, Conquest isn't stupid. He knows why they sent him, because Mark has pissed off the Viltrumites and resisted. He would have had to do a LOT of convincing and Conquest was surely not going to take his word for it, he wanted to fight.

Let's not forget that had Conquest BOUGHT it, he would have reported back and then more Viltrumites would have come to Earth to assimilate it. Mark, let alone the rest of the heroes, can't even handle 1 Viltrumite.


I don't actually think he could have helped her at that point. He himself was pretty effed up. Not even sure he's got it all together enough to finish the job now. If he does, it's all adrenaline and rage.
I think all he did was get himself severely injured because he was trying to protect everyone and not actually fight the guy.

Who knows? He could have at least explained what they were up against and maybe gotten the hell outta there.

Yeah. That's a big shock. Cecil being a dick. :rolleyes:
He was certainly being irresponsible. He should have known better than to send her in and he should have known it clearly wasn't Omni-Man who was beating him to death. He should have also recognized that Mark and Eve were going to be a liability to eachother. Especially with how Mark reacted to her getting hurt in the Invincible War.
In his defense, though, he was pretty desperate.

The question remains, HOW beaten will Conquest be. Mark is still developing. His powers are still growing. Conquest has him by decades, not to mention the experience. I think that Mark will kill him, but Kirkman's going to have to justify his ability to do so. Mark's battered, less experienced, and far less powerful. It's going to take some major creativity. Shame that they can't reanimate those alternate Invincibles in time. That would even the odds.
I think he's going to shatter Conquest's arm for starters, (Probably by destroying Conquest's belt since they both have pretty lights they probably work together..) then destroy his good eye.
He's just going to have to be vicious and go for the kill, not the win.

True. He'll blame himself to be sure and probably fall apart, but they were still really coming together. Mark looked to her for support to be sure, but I wonder if William's death might not hit him harder. Mark & Eve's relationship was really only just starting in earnest. It's been a lot of back and forth before that. Unless Mark somehow convinces himself that Eve was "the one" I can't quite see it having the "Gwen Stacy Effect" and crippling him for years.
She was definitely 'the one'. She's been a fixture in his life since issue 1. At the very least, he was her "one".

I don't think William dying would have done it. The only other person I can see meaning that much to him would be his mother, but she's still got to confront Nolan again, so it couldn't be her.

Yeah. Just imagine his reaction to Amber trying to be there for him. He's going to probably push everybody away. Maybe even forcing Oliver to permanently unmask in a humiliating manner, for the kid's own protection.
Definitely. It'll be great.

[GRANT!]

I'd like for that to happen, but I think it's a bit of a stretch for her limiter to come off now and her have enough left to fix herself and kill him.

Then again....Angstrom survived getting pounded into pulp...

I think Eve's powers could help her survive or at least long enough to make more of a difference in the fight. My issue is that her plan (as it seems now) was pretty limited compared to what she is capable of doing. Cecil could have had the limiter removed off panel.

[Dave H]

I think Eve's powers could help her survive or at least long enough to make more of a difference in the fight. My issue is that her plan (as it seems now) was pretty limited compared to what she is capable of doing. Cecil could have had the limiter removed off panel.

I sure hope so.
I don't want to believe that Cecil sent her into a fight like that with just "hold him in force fields" as her major plan of attack.

Then again, people do stupid things under those conditions.

[MythicBrawn]

It will be interesting to see how Mark overcomes Conquest. Someone mentioned that Conquest has Mark by decades of experience. It's more like centuries. I think Conquest wants Mark to fully embrace the Vultrimite rage, too. It will make Conquest's victory all the more sweeter. I was reading this and thinking, just how strong/powerful is this guy? He definitely exceeds Omni-Man or any other Vultrimute for that matter. Mark has his work cut out for him. At this point, Mark has a broken leg with the bone showing, guaranteed internal injuries, and a closed up eye. Conquest only has a bloody nose. Good luck, Mark. But then, the comic isn't called Invincible for nothing.

[ultramandingo]

..........wheres battlecat when you need him ?

[GRANT!]

It's Battle Beast! :wink:

[malephoenix]

It's Battle Beast! :wink:

No! He-Man's pet will save them all!

[ultramandingo]

......told you !

[Jeff F]

I know it'd be kind of anti-climactic, but I really want to see Allen come down and crush Conquest at the last possible second.

Let Mark know that he's not good enough and put a period on it.

[Xanrn]

Well damm.

Seriously though, she couldn't have atleast turned his robo arm into flowers or something before she went down.

I wonder if Eve created a fake Eve.

"Hold him with force fields" is a really really crap plan.

I fail to see why her death was needed for the story and I very much doubt Kirkman can convince me her death was worthwhile. Really after this issue her death comes off as nothing but meaningless.

I hope he has something better than Invincible Hulks out, cause that a really lame reason to kill one of the best original modern characters out there.

[Tomacatawata]

I liked Eve's death. When you try to protect someone from some crazy guy with a gun, you get shot. If you try and protect your boyfriend from someone who is obviously more powerful, you get dead.

This is how this series has always been. Remember when battle beast just messed things up. Plot armor runs a little thin and I enjoy it.

[Kingswing]

She is one of those characters that has powers so broadly defined that her ever losing to anyone seems almost impossible. I am personally glad he killed her, she was starting to get annoying.

[Croatoan]

I have to say that I'm devastated by Eve's death, and while I respect the opinions of the people who think that way, who among us readers since issue #1 could see her as just a leftover for Mark or that she was annoying I mean they getting together was one of the main plots since the first issue because it was clear they were meant for each other. Granted I trust Kirkman and I totally agree that Invincible has always been really strong about the consequences of being a super hero especially towards friends and family, but I feel Eve was such an important and strong character that next issue's gonna have to be huge to make up for her death. I'm gonna keep reading because damn it's been such a ride for me it's been 6 years already and this series has been something I look for monthly since I was 21 years old and except for a Bruce Jones it's really hard for me to just leave a series that I like.

Anyways long post, etc but R.I.P Atom Eve it would be nice if there were more young super heroines like her in comics.

[Xiroteus]

Another person that acts like they "have" to kill someone off, it is THEIR story, they do not have to do anything, if she had to die she could have at least done something big, with that said, this is such a great series, even with Eve dying (maybe there is more to it, making us think that is it?) I look forward to each issue, not a ton of series do that, Wolf-Man does, this series does, The Sword, Ultimate Spider-Man and a couple others, many and kind of, so-so.

And I really do not know how he is going to win yet, which is good, who knows what will happen in this series.

[malephoenix]

Okay. But what if Eve's not dead? Kirkman's done such before.

I'm hoping now that Eve and Cecil made a plan, and this is the unfolding of said plan.

[GRANT!]

I think there is a plan and Eve is dead.

But I've been wrong so many times before.

[Xiroteus]

Okay. But what if Eve's not dead? Kirkman's done such before.

I'm hoping now that Eve and Cecil made a plan, and this is the unfolding of said plan.

That would be nice, it could be possible it is a trick with what he said in the letters page, I am looking forward to finding out.

[MrHellpop]

All I'll say is...f**k. That actually hurt.

[malephoenix]

That would be nice, it could be possible it is a trick with what he said in the letters page, I am looking forward to finding out.

I could easily see this whole death being genuine. But I could also easily see this as Kirkman properly utilizing the dramatic pause between monthly issues.

Because next issue, the fight continues, a dues ex machina is pulled out of somewhere, and Eve shows up. Then there's a few panels that show some more of her conversation with Cecil.

Cecil: "Force fields? You're going to hold the strongest invader we've ever seen with force fields?!"
Eve: "Unless you have a better idea!"
Cecil: "Why don't I just go aim my gun at hi--- Wait. Force fields! We could make this work. Look, the boys in our lab have a machine that can create thousands of tiny force fields. This guy would tear through yours like paper, but we could open these tiny event horizons INSIDE of him."
Eve: "Then do it! Mark's out there!"
Cecil: "Not that easy. We'd need him to stay still for three minutes to get a lock on him. So far, they haven't stayed in one place for half that long."
Eve: "Then that takes us back to square one. Send me in!"
Cecil: "Okay. But I need you to focus here. Don't let your emotions get the best of you. I want you to stay completely out of sight. It's time to put that power of yours to the test. How complex a system can you create?"

And then Mark gets all upset because for a few minutes, she let him think she was really dead.




She's probably just dead, but I can hope.

[Protoman]

I never actually second guessed her death, now im thinkin she might be alive...

her powers are so broad that it just doesn't make sense that her only plan would be "omg pink force field", when she can literally mold the world around her. She couldnt even hold up a few space parasites with that thing

[Surtur]

I have to say I hope she isn't dead. I liked her as a character and everything, and it sucks to see her go. Still, I just hope Mark doesn't suddenly now own Conquest because he has a lot of rage or something..that's just too cliche.

[HotDawgJohnny]

I liked her death too, I'm hoping kirkman doesn't go all marvel and bring her back. Don't get me wrong she was cool, but you don't wanna go with the cliche and just do it because to many people got somber feelings over it. Its not like their gunna need counseling over a fictional person

[Jimmy'sFriend]

Here's my review of the latest issue. It was my pick of the week on our podcast.

Invincible #63 review

Invincible doesn’t quite live up to his name as Conquest kicks the living shit out of him. You know the saying “He got his ass handed to him”? Take that common phase to the thirteenth degree and you might come close to describing this issue of Invincible.
In this issue Invincible gets his face pulped, his bones snapped, and his heart broken. Robert Kirkman has been writing a unique superhero book with his no one is safe principle. WARNING: Spoilers are in the next sentence. Atom Eve dies while coming to Mark’s assistance against the unstoppable Conquest. Kirkman isn’t afraid to have heroes die fighting bad guys. It’s as simple as that. No big story laden with intricately women plots. There are no sappy and prolonged goodbyes. Big fights can cause death and they do. This is just an awesome, tough to read at times, fight. Just look at the cover!!!
Ryan Ottley draws one of the best comic book brawls of all time in this issue. The panels are brilliant and the characters are powerful. I loved the splattering effects reaching past the panels’ boarders creating a sense of carnage and mayhem. The close ups of Mark’s wounds are savage and painstakingly detailed.
This issue shows that a good fight is all a comic needs sometimes. Yet, Kirkman throws a shocker in the midst of it as well. The champ of the battle is Ryan Ottley’s art. I can’t wait for more. Somebody get Invincible a Band-Aid!
4.5 out of 5

[malephoenix]

intricately women plots.

Which are - in my opinion - WAY cooler than intricately woven plots!






(Not meant as snarky. I just like how that particular typo created a great phrase.)

[Libaax]

I really hope Conquest doesnt get killed. He is too good, too cool villain.


Wow i havent seen a powerful superhero his ass kicked this bloody. Which was awesome, the blood,gore. The shocking death was really shocking. Kirkman is great at that. In The Walking Dead too, you never see the deaths coming.

[JET ACE LOGAN]

This comic is easily the best super hero title out at the moment, simple as that!


When I don't know if characters are going to survive from issue to issue, it really makes me as a reader quite attached to them...........

Simple idea really, and the writer plays it to the full.

Bravo sir!!

[Jimmy'sFriend]

Which are - in my opinion - WAY cooler than intricately woven plots!






(Not meant as snarky. I just like how that particular typo created a great phrase.)

Thanks. Are you looking for a job as a prooof reeader? I sure could use one. I guess I should write reviews after my coffee. Thanks.

[Moses Morrison]

Honestly, the only person I can tolerate seeing Conquest losing to is Battle Beast.

I think I love him.

[GRANT!]

Honestly, the only person I can tolerate seeing Conquest losing to is Battle Beast.

I think I love him.

Here's my issue with Battle Beast, if he's so tough how did he get captured in the first place.

[malephoenix]

Here's my issue with Battle Beast, if he's so tough how did he get captured in the first place.

He LET them.

[Jimmy'sFriend]

Conquest is a real interesting character. I really hope he is around for awhile as well, but I have a feeling he's toast. Atom Eve must be avenged!

[michaeljsmith]

Conquest is a real interesting character. I really hope he is around for awhile as well, but I have a feeling he's toast. Atom Eve must be avenged!

agree and AGREE

[MythicBrawn]

It would be great to see a conquering person like Conquest take on Superman. This is how the Doomsday battle should have went. Of all the heroes that went up against Doomsday more of them should have been killed. Total disregard for collateral damage would put Superman in a untenable situation.

[JET ACE LOGAN]

I dig conquest too, and would love a spin of story, a limited series, a prequel prehaps,

but for now he has too die, sorry he really has to die really really badly.

Also i think after this battle Mark might well become harder and eventually become the bad guy in his own comic,

if only because he will stop caring because his lover/girlfriend has been murdered right in front of eyes and could do nothing about it........

The potential to be the villian has always been there because of his father.................

Kirkman would/could do this i think..................

[malephoenix]

Also i think after this battle Mark might well become harder and eventually become the bad guy in his own comic,

if only because he will stop caring because his lover/girlfriend has been murdered right in front of eyes and could do nothing about it........

The potential to be the villian has always been there because of his father.................

Kirkman would/could do this i think..................

Wow. I hadn't even thought of that. It would indeed be incredible.

However, is that do-able? I mean, if the main character of your story is supposed to be a good guy, then to make him a villain (or at least "anti-hero") would turn off quite a chuck of the fan base.

[UltimateMarvel_Fan501]

Hey, sorry I'm sure someone has already asked this somewhere but can someone tell me how far in this series the tpb go to? I'd really like to start reading this and I wasn't sure what the best route to start would be. Help me out because this comic sounds really badass!

[GRANT!]

Hey, sorry I'm sure someone has already asked this somewhere but can someone tell me how far in this series the tpb go to? I'd really like to start reading this and I wasn't sure what the best route to start would be. Help me out because this comic sounds really badass!

Ten TPBs with the eleventh coming out within a month or so. The hardcovers go up to four volumes with a fifth out later this year (they collect about 11-12 issues of the book each). That should cover the first 59 issues of the series.

[JET ACE LOGAN]

Wow. I hadn't even thought of that. It would indeed be incredible.

However, is that do-able? I mean, if the main character of your story is supposed to be a good guy, then to make him a villain (or at least "anti-hero") would turn off quite a chuck of the fan base.

I really thought this right from when we found out his dad was the bad guy and wanted mark to be the same, and there has always been hints threw out the series too..............

[Libaax]

I dig conquest too, and would love a spin of story, a limited series, a prequel prehaps,

but for now he has too die, sorry he really has to die really really badly.

Also i think after this battle Mark might well become harder and eventually become the bad guy in his own comic,

if only because he will stop caring because his lover/girlfriend has been murdered right in front of eyes and could do nothing about it........

The potential to be the villian has always been there because of his father.................

Kirkman would/could do this i think..................


Sure he must die but not now its way too soon. Mark needs a Nemesis he isnt too powerful against. Angstrom Levy for him was like killing a bug.

I want to see Mark get angry,bitter too but he will never become a villain. Kirkman is way too smarl for that. He made the father a villain. He cant make everyone of them villains just because of their race.

[Jmacq1]

Of course, Mark becoming a villain or a callous anti-hero is exactly what Conquest wants him to do.

[Libaax]

Yeah which why it wont happen.

I mean how can you become like the guy who killed your GF in cold blood.

[JET ACE LOGAN]

But that is one of Invincible series great strengths to me,


Its ability to pull the rug from under the readers feet..........

I really can see Mark becoming BAD

its in his blood....................

[Protoman]

Honestly, the only person I can tolerate seeing Conquest losing to is Battle Beast.

I think I love him.if Battle Beast came from the sky and killed Conquest i....i dont know what i'd do

[GRANT!]

But that is one of Invincible series great strengths to me,


Its ability to pull the rug from under the readers feet..........

I really can see Mark becoming BAD

its in his blood....................

I don't think that's really the case. Nolan despite the things he's done is starting redeem himself. But even when he was bad he thought he was doing the right thing according to his race. It wasn't until his time on earth made him question his actions.

But I agree Mark like his dad he is capable of bad things. I can't wait for the next issue though. It's been a tough couple of weeks.

[MythicBrawn]

Not all Viltrumites are bad. Remember, the head of the Coalition is a Viltrumite and he started the COP to stop the spread of the Viltrum empire. I think it will take a lot for Mark to go completely bad. I would be interesting in knowing what made the alter-universe Marks turn out the way they did. Did Nolan take Mark and raise him as a Viltrumite? Did something in their childhood or upbringing make them jaded and/or cynical? Just wondering where their missteps occurred.

[negation]

What is everyones guess on how they defeat Conquest. Mark doing it makes no sense, he is way to banged up and outclassed. They said there were 5 people on earth who could even last 2 minutes with Conquest, Battleneast, Omniman or Allen I dont believe is the way,

What then ?????????????????????/

I love the last 3 issues

[GRANT!]

Not all Viltrumites are bad. Remember, the head of the Coalition is a Viltrumite and he started the COP to stop the spread of the Viltrum empire. I think it will take a lot for Mark to go completely bad. I would be interesting in knowing what made the alter-universe Marks turn out the way they did. Did Nolan take Mark and raise him as a Viltrumite? Did something in their childhood or upbringing make them jaded and/or cynical? Just wondering where their missteps occurred.

I think they had a variety of back stories and motivations. Seems like one of them was in a Viltrumite Prison (the bald one with burns all over his skull).

[GRANT!]

What is everyones guess on how they defeat Conquest. Mark doing it makes no sense, he is way to banged up and outclassed. They said there were 5 people on earth who could even last 2 minutes with Conquest, Battleneast, Omniman or Allen I dont believe is the way,

What then ?????????????????????/

I love the last 3 issues

I'm thinking it's the sickness that future Immortal alluded to. Or Eve has one last trick up her sleeve.

[Libaax]

What sickness ? I dont remember what that future Immortal said.

[Xiroteus]

Or Eve has one last trick up her sleeve.

I hope so, something big, she went out far too easy for as much power as she has.

[Libaax]

Nah she is dead, Kirkman never does the marvel,dc thing of bringing back dead people.

Read the letter pages, she is gone.

[Xiroteus]

I read the letters page, it could be a trick.

Even though I dislike it she could still be alive and not make it by doing something BIG to stop conquest, she just went out too easily for her character as the power she has.

[Libaax]

Her powers are nothing compared to many other characters in the series. Mark,Conquest,Omni-man,Immortal etc

Kirkman said he had planned this hole arc for a while. He could just introduce a new female superhero into the series.

[michaeljsmith]

Nah she is dead, Kirkman never does the marvel,dc thing of bringing back dead people.


Angstrom Levy? :biggrin:

[MythicBrawn]

The Angstrom Levy thing was believable. Mark thought he was dead and didn't verify it. Plus, Levy was enhanced so it is believed that he still had life in him and was able to survive the way he did. Some Marvel and DC rebirths have been just plain stupid. Norman Osborn, Jean Grey, Jason Todd, Hal Jordan, and a bunch of others.

[Libaax]

Angstrom Levy? :biggrin:


You know what i meant :wink:

The emotional death of a heroes loved one and cheaping it by bringing them back.


Villains have different roles,the hero needs a hard to kill nemesis.

[Xiroteus]

Her powers are nothing compared to many other characters in the series. Mark,Conquest,Omni-man,Immortal etc

Kirkman said he had planned this hole arc for a while. He could just introduce a new female superhero into the series.


It always seems she should b powerful then she is shown.

[Libaax]

Her power seemed powerful in that she could create stuff but she didnt seem so dangersous destructive powerwise.

I mean you saw her best move against Conquest. She is just not in that level. Not many in earth are as they said.

[Xiroteus]

I just felt her best move should have been better based on what she can do, what she really needed to do with get rid of those mental blocks.

Her power seemed powerful in that she could create stuff but she didnt seem so dangersous destructive powerwise.

That is true, being able to create anything does not mean said things are all that strong, she would be even more powerful the moment she has no mental blocks holding her back.

[MythicBrawn]

I think Atom Eve had major potential but she's never had to utilize her powers to their fullest extent. At least, I haven't been given the impression that she's had the opportunity. I don't think she's been in situations that require her to be ruthless with her powers. And, when they time came she was at a loss. She was also distracted worrying about Mark versus focusing on Conquest. Give her a killer instinct and she is a person to be truly reckoned with. Conquest would have had a fight on his hands. Viltrumites aren't unbeatable. Nolan discovered that there are threats in the universe that can take them out. Eve just wasn't ready for it. She's not Batman where given the proper preparations any opponent is beatable. I say that as a joke because I think people give Batman is way overrated. But, then he's dead now so the point is moot. So much for being prepared to take down a cosmic-level threat.

[Xiroteus]

I wonder why she was never written to use her power to the fullest extent, based on that two part Atom Eve comic she may be able to break those mental blocks if given enough reason to, that would have been nice, even if she did not live through the entire fight (which she should) she would have at least put up more of a fight, they had her focus elsewhere and conquest is faster then she is.

[FIG]

You guys think she's seriously dead? No way, she's going to healed given how numerous characters end up surviving. -Characters like Brit, Omni-Man, you name it. Plus Eve is Marks Green Lantern. I think we are all shocked by what we saw in issue #63 but I'm pretty sure Eve will come back with a metallic torso or cybernetic stomach. Wouldn't it be awesome if the beating Mark is referring to in the end of issue #63 is his father flying at Conquest at super-speed? Maybe Mark can see his dad flying in the distance with his super-vision? That's my hope anyways. Watching father and sons tear Conquest apart.

[Ben Akers]

I still think that Mark hasn't fully tapped into his Viltrumite powers. Its quite possible that Eve's death will push him toward full-on rage.....enough to defeat Conquest.

[sinosleep]

You guys think she's seriously dead? No way, she's going to healed given how numerous characters end up surviving. -Characters like Brit, Omni-Man, you name it. Plus Eve is Marks Green Lantern. I think we are all shocked by what we saw in issue #63 but I'm pretty sure Eve will come back with a metallic torso or cybernetic stomach. Wouldn't it be awesome if the beating Mark is referring to in the end of issue #63 is his father flying at Conquest at super-speed? Maybe Mark can see his dad flying in the distance with his super-vision? That's my hope anyways. Watching father and sons tear Conquest apart.

That's my guess.

[MythicBrawn]

I thought it was stated that Viltrumites don't have super-senses? Although, people have mistakenly thought so about Omni-Man. Didn't Nolan say that? I'm not sure how Mark is going to beat Conquest but it will be good, regardless.

[GRANT!]

I thought it was stated that Viltrumites don't have super-senses? Although, people have mistakenly thought so about Omni-Man. Didn't Nolan say that? I'm not sure how Mark is going to beat Conquest but it will be good, regardless.

I'm pretty sure they don't. Which is why Mark and Nolan needed Cecil's transceiver to tell them where to go.

[Dave H]

You guys think she's seriously dead? No way, she's going to healed given how numerous characters end up surviving. -Characters like Brit, Omni-Man, you name it. Plus Eve is Marks Green Lantern. I think we are all shocked by what we saw in issue #63 but I'm pretty sure Eve will come back with a metallic torso or cybernetic stomach. Wouldn't it be awesome if the beating Mark is referring to in the end of issue #63 is his father flying at Conquest at super-speed? Maybe Mark can see his dad flying in the distance with his super-vision? That's my hope anyways. Watching father and sons tear Conquest apart.
Mark doesn't have super vision or super hearing. He's made a joke of it a couple times in the series. :confused:

Also, his father and Allen are far, FAR away in space and not even considering going back to Earth. They're on their way to the CoP anyways.
I can't understand why some people keep thinking this is even an option.

Eve's death means NOTHING if Mark has to have someone else save him (AGAIN) or she gets put back together ala Rick.

[Libaax]

Fans like FIG expect Kirkman to write as predictable as MU,DCU superheroes.


Thinking Allen,Omni-Man will superspeed through the hole galaxy to get in time to save Mark is way way too lame,clichè for what Kirkman has done with any of his own series.....

[FIG]

Mark doesn't have super vision or super hearing. He's made a joke of it a couple times in the series. :confused:

Also, his father and Allen are far, FAR away in space and not even considering going back to Earth. They're on their way to the CoP anyways.
I can't understand why some people keep thinking this is even an option.

Eve's death means NOTHING if Mark has to have someone else save him (AGAIN) or she gets put back together ala Rick.

Well I forgot about this. I don't have the series anymore as I sold it. I have small scattered issues here and there.

Fans like FIG expect Kirkman to write as predictable as MU,DCU superheroes.


Thinking Allen,Omni-Man will superspeed through the hole galaxy to get in time to save Mark is way way too lame,clichè for what Kirkman has done with any of his own series.....

Really? Is that what I expect? What else am I thinking since you're in my mind genius? As for cliche, it is not. It would be totally unexpected but it doesn't mean I couldn't wish for it.

[Dave H]

Really? Is that what I expect? What else am I thinking since you're in my mind genius? As for cliche, it is not. It would be totally unexpected but it doesn't mean I couldn't wish for it.
The surprise "tag in" from a more powerful superhero at the last second has been pretty much done to death.

So yeah, it's cliched.

[Libaax]

Well I forgot about this. I don't have the series anymore as I sold it. I have small scattered issues here and there.



Really? Is that what I expect? What else am I thinking since you're in my mind genius? As for cliche, it is not. It would be totally unexpected but it doesn't mean I couldn't wish for it.

Well you did write that i didnt need to be in your mind.

Not to disrespect or anything you can wish for it but its not likely considering the first 60s odd issues.

Its understandable we expect certain clichês from superhero fiction.

[Xiroteus]

I rather not seen his dad come in at the last second, I want to see what will happen without them doing that which I doubt they were ever going to do anyway.

[SmashDown]

I rather not seen his dad come in at the last second, I want to see what will happen without them doing that which I doubt they were ever going to do anyway.

Yeah, Mark needs to come into his own as a hero if he's going to be at the front of the defense against whenever there's a full on invasion.

[malephoenix]

It would be totally unexpected but it doesn't mean I couldn't wish for it.

The scenario of Nolan and Allen swooping in and saving Mark is *very* expected. Read through these posts. Go check out the posts about this last issue on Kirkman's website. The two most popular theories are: Mark goes "Super-sayan" and takes out the Big Bad, or the two space cowboys arrive and save the day.

[Dave H]

I can end the speculation right now.

Preview for 64.
http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0907/16/imagefirsts.htm

Hol-E-Crap.

[MythicBrawn]

I can end the speculation right now.

Preview for 64.
http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0907/16/imagefirsts.htm

Hol-E-Crap.

Indeed. Mark is taking it to a whole new level and it is totally believable. Man, I can't wait to get this issue.

[GRANT!]

Jesus Christ! Mark is fighting dirty.

I can't wait for the violent hair pulling scene.

I'm hoping this isn't what Kirkman meant by making Eve's death count...

[Libaax]

See thats what you can expect of Kirkman heh.

[NickGuy]

yummy. mike tyson-ing it. i dig.

[ankushm999]

Invincible: *CHOMP* OM NOM NOM NOM
Conquest: MOTHERFU%^%%$!!

[Samuraixsithlord]

Jesus Christ! Mark is fighting dirty.

I can't wait for the violent hair pulling scene.

I'm hoping this isn't what Kirkman meant by making Eve's death count...

God#@!$ I know. I totally see Mark kicking Conquest in the nuts, and gouging at his eyes. Maybe do a knee to the kidney's while flying at Superspeed.

quick question, has kirkman ever admitted that the Viltrumites are obviously inspired by the Saiyan's from Dragonball Z?

[Dave H]

God#@!$ I know. I totally see Mark kicking Conquest in the nuts, and gouging at his eyes. Maybe do a knee to the kidney's while flying at Superspeed.

quick question, has kirkman ever admitted that the Viltrumites are obviously inspired by the Saiyan's from Dragonball Z?

How are they "obviously" inspired by that ridiculous manga?
Looks more like a twist on Superman to me.

[NickGuy]

theres plenty of dbz similarities. allen the alien is totally picolo, and oliver is goten lol.

[Dave H]

theres plenty of dbz similarities. allen the alien is totally picolo, and oliver is goten lol.
Being an alien or someone's younger brother isn't enough to draw such a direct comparison.

[Froggy]

How are they "obviously" inspired by that ridiculous manga?
Looks more like a twist on Superman to me.

the violent nature

the bodyhair thing

the whole white man's burden type conquering style (but then again in dbz frieza had em be mercenaries and they were savages themselves so) theres a way to see a few similarities :)

[NickGuy]

Being an alien or someone's younger brother isn't enough to draw such a direct comparison.

no, but the mannerisms in which they act is similar. or rather, their role in the story.

[Dave H]

no, but the mannerisms in which they act is similar. or rather, their role in the story.
Wha?

Piccolo was a stern, no nonsense villain-turned-good guy that forever played second (and later 3rd-5th) fiddle to the main characters. His role diminished more and more as the series progressed.

Allen is a lighthearted, upbeat guy who's been fighting on the side of the good guys since he appeared. He's also arguably stronger than the main characters, and his role has gotten more and more prominent.

The total opposite of Piccolo.

Other than Goten and Oliver being the "younger brother" how are they similar?

Honestly, if you're going to break it down to it's barest bones...sure, there's some similarities. But only on the thinnest layer of the surface.
It's like saying Gambit is the same as Rex because they can both make objects explode.

[Protoman]

i was telling a friend about Invincible and he brought up this comparison

they share some similarities but the execution is completely different

[Froggy]

i was telling a friend about Invincible and he brought up this comparison

they share some similarities but the execution is completely different

for the record i'd still say the mustaches trump the tails

[KiFF86]

How are they "obviously" inspired by that ridiculous manga?
Looks more like a twist on Superman to me.

They get strong as they fight too.


Yeah Conquest is going to get FUCKED up. Mark is going to pull a Bride (Kill Bill) and rip out his good eye. I want to see how low is going to go with this fight.

[Samuraixsithlord]

How are they "obviously" inspired by that ridiculous manga?
Looks more like a twist on Superman to me.

Their violent natures, their great physical powers, their desire to conquer planets, their hair (It always tends to be dark), the fact that they gain strength from healing their wounds after they fight or any sort of physical exertions, the fact that they're nearly extinct.

I also said that they are "inspired" by the Saiyan's, not exactly like them in every way.

[Samuraixsithlord]

They get strong as they fight too.


Yeah Conquest is going to get FUCKED up. Mark is going to pull a Bride (Kill Bill) and rip out his good eye. I want to see how low is going to go with this fight.

I'm finally glad that it's looking like Mark will actually beat a Viltrumite in a fight without his dad or anyone else helping out.

Strengthwise Mark is nearly at his fathers level (note how i said nearly).

[FIG]

Just saw the preview for #64 on the Image website and I am as suprised as everyone here. I thought that Conquest would perhaps spur Marks father to return for a short while at least.

[michaeljsmith]

Just saw the preview for #64 on the Image website and I am as suprised as everyone here. I thought that Conquest would perhaps spur Marks father to return for a short while at least.

Nolan will be back next issue, along with Alan the Alien in a two part space adventure.

[randomengine]

Issue 64 SPOILERS


What a brutal issue. Though Conquest got what he deserved, I didn't expect Mark to go all Pan's Labyrinth on him. It was also nice to see that Atom Eve didn't die. Too bad we didn't get to see her naughty bits. I guess that is too much to ask.

[GRANT!]

Re: 64

Ha! I knew it. Should be interesting where this goes.

[Kusanagi]

Invincible has got to be the goriest superhero comic on the market right now, and I love it for it. Two big thumbs up on Eve being alive, I mean she can make anything from nothing why not a new body! :biggrin:

Love the look on all the heroes faces, expecting a huge no win fight, and getting naked Eve instead.

[KiFF86]

That was so brutal. It read so fast, but I got everything. But you would think Mark would know that Just bashing in someone's face doesnt work.

[GRANT!]

Can't wait to see the Conquest Reani-man.

BTW nice shot of the heros at the end. I like Monster Girl covering Robots eyes when they stand before naked Eve. I like little details like that.

[OMGDRAN]

how does she not die?!

[Kusanagi]

You know I didn't even realize it till a second look, but Monster girl's covering Robot man's eyes. cuuuute :tongue:

[GRANT!]

how does she not die?!

Cause she's awesome.

[Xiroteus]

Cause she's awesome.

Yes, that. :biggrin:

I was hoping something like that would happen.

[jade_nova]

Invincible has got to be the goriest superhero comic on the market right now, and I love it for it.

I think "The Sword" might be the goriest comic out there.

[Samuraixsithlord]

how does she not die?!

Aparently she can now effect organic matter as she uses the rubble around her to regenerate from her wounds. She uses her abilities to flay a large portion of Conquests skin off and then Mark headbutts him to death (no lie).

[JET ACE LOGAN]

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEAAATTT !!!!!!!!


This is why i read comics and it was not gore for the sake of it,


Cause of the story,

it needed to be there....................(the gore i mean!!!!):rolleyes:

[Salvester]

Eve isn't dead for one simple reason:

The Mark/Eve is one of the most interesting, organic, relationships in comic, and ending that so early would be a shame. I also think Kirkman knows this isn't The Walking Dead, he can't just keep killing off characters. Allen and Eve for sure.

[Samuraixsithlord]

I wonder if Battle Beast will join Allen and Nolen in their war against the Viltrumite. I hope be does cause he's awesome. Plus he'd love the challenge.

[MythicBrawn]

Awesome comic with an awesome ending for the Conquest storyline. Mark is going to flip out, again, when he finds out what Cecil's been doing with the alter-universe Marks. Now, Conquest gets to be added to the arsenal. I have no problem with Eve recovering, especially after having read her miniseries. Mark's going to be even more powerful now. Because, with Viltrumites, the adage is true, "What doesn't kill you only makes you stronger."

[Kasper Cole]

This was the shortest comic I've read this week, but also the one I've enjoyed the most, I literrally jumped out of my seat and yelled "Yeah!!" when I saw Eve was back and again yelled out "Oh $#!@" upon seeing Mark headbutt Conquest to death.

I really have to tip my hat to Mr Kirkman for this one, this storyline has been huge on action but it hasn't been mindless and the events have been a emotional rollercoaster..

[JET ACE LOGAN]

Mark is going to flip out, again,

He will become the bad guy...............


He will become just like his farther................

[Libaax]

I dont care about Eve dying or not im just disapointed that Kirkman did this by making us believe she died.

He should do it like Walking Dead, when you die, you are dead forever.

Dont be lame like the big two....

[JohnnyC]

I dont care about Eve dying or not im just disapointed that Kirkman did this by making us believe she died.

He should do it like Walking Dead, when you die, you are dead forever.

Dont be lame like the big two....

This isn't like the big two at all. She was "dead" for what, one issue? Not even. This is not at all like Marvel bringing Harry Osborn back from the dead after many years in the grave.

[malephoenix]

I dont care about Eve dying or not im just disapointed that Kirkman did this by making us believe she died.

He should do it like Walking Dead, when you die, you are dead forever.

Dont be lame like the big two....

JohnnyC makes a good point - this isn't at all like Marvel or DC where characters don't stay dead. This is part of the same story arc. And not only that, but the very next issue.

The Big Two bring back characters regularly after years and claiming "dead means dead." Like Magneto, Colossus, and now Barry Allen. And even when there's huge media attention, like with Supes and Captain America.

[malephoenix]

I don't know how to embed pictures, but here's the link that shows a shot of Conquest being de-Conquested.


http://comicbookresources.com/prev_img.php?disp=img&pid=1248637617

[MythicBrawn]

Those shots of future issues look to show what happened to the all the Viltrumites. So, Nolan had a hard time on that world and Conquest was sent in to bring it to heel? He only lost his forearm and an eye as a result. Unfortunately, coming to Earth he lost his head. You have to think that the Viltrumites will be looking at Mark in a whole new way. How many of them would be apprehensive about going up against Conquest one-on-one? Mark kills the guy and he is a young (not even a century old), human-Viltrum hybrid. If I was a Viltrum leader, I might consider abducting some humans and creating more hybrids to replenish the ranks.

[Libaax]

Those shots of future issues look to show what happened to the all the Viltrumites. So, Nolan had a hard time on that world and Conquest was sent in to bring it to heel? He only lost his forearm and an eye as a result. Unfortunately, coming to Earth he lost his head. You have to think that the Viltrumites will be looking at Mark in a whole new way. How many of them would be apprehensive about going up against Conquest one-on-one? Mark kills the guy and he is a young (not even a century old), human-Viltrum hybrid. If I was a Viltrum leader, I might consider abducting some humans and creating more hybrids to replenish the ranks.


You make good points. Kirkman must solve that problem of why Viltrumites wont see humans as a way to create powerful hybrids.

Maybe showing Its Mark experiance, special talent or genetics of Nolan is why he is so powerful. It would be too much if human+ Viltrumites was automatical uber powerful.

[Salvester]

You make good points. Kirkman must solve that problem of why Viltrumites wont see humans as a way to create powerful hybrids.

Maybe showing Its Mark experiance, special talent or genetics of Nolan is why he is so powerful. It would be too much if human+ Viltrumites was automatical uber powerful.


Maybe he will do just the opposite, and Mark will have to protect the human race's females from being stolen by the uber-horny Viltumites

[MythicBrawn]

Maybe showing Its Mark experiance, special talent or genetics of Nolan is why he is so powerful. It would be too much if human+ Viltrumites was automatical uber powerful.

It doesn't seem that Viltrumites made it a habit of mating with the species that they were conquering. They had no reason to since there were so many of them. And, why would they mate with beings that they considered inferior to them? I don't know how Viltrumites reproduce, but from Nolan's own remarks, I don't think it involved sex. When the three Viltrumites went to Oliver's planet, they were going to kill him because they felt he was an affront to their species. As far as we know, Mark is the first hybrid that's been produced and since he survived his "rite of passage" on Oliver's world, they deemed him worthy. Now, that he's killed Conquest, the leadership has to be looking at him in a whole new light. Genetics, experience, or whatever, Mark is a credit to Viltrumite ideals and if one Human-Viltrumite hybrid could do what he did, then an army of them could make the Viltrumite empire strong again. H-V hybrids are not automatically uber-powerful, but if the leadership creates, trains, and releases them in the universe, then Viltrum can come back in full force.

[Salvester]

It doesn't seem that Viltrumites made it a habit of mating with the species that they were conquering. They had no reason to since there were so many of them. And, why would they mate with beings that they considered inferior to them? I don't know how Viltrumites reproduce, but from Nolan's own remarks, I don't think it involved sex. When the three Viltrumites went to Oliver's planet, they were going to kill him because they felt he was an affront to their species. As far as we know, Mark is the first hybrid that's been produced and since he survived his "rite of passage" on Oliver's world, they deemed him worthy. Now, that he's killed Conquest, the leadership has to be looking at him in a whole new light. Genetics, experience, or whatever, Mark is a credit to Viltrumite ideals and if one Human-Viltrumite hybrid could do what he did, then an army of them could make the Viltrumite empire strong again. H-V hybrids are not automatically uber-powerful, but if the leadership creates, trains, and releases them in the universe, then Viltrum can come back in full force.

Well with only 50 "full-blooded" Viltrumites left, it would seem to indicate there are also some not full-blooded ones.

And when explaining to Mark about how he is more Viltrumite than human, it seemed Nolan had some knowledge of how it worked before hand. So I'm guessing there are a fair number of half-breeds. Maybe its not super common to breed, but not ultra-rare though.

[ankushm999]

Wow what a cheap cop-out that was....

[Salvester]

Wow what a cheap cop-out that was....


I think you are in the minority, most people like it

Headbutting to death=win

[Libaax]

Headbutting and biting was too cool, i was like woow.

Only problem with the fight to me that wasnt awesome is the fact some puny human like Eve really finished off Conquest.

Mark should have won on his own. Not finished the guy when Eve burned half his body away.


I must say next issue better be awesome and cant wait for Allen,Nolan issues.

Issue 64 was the first dissapointing issue of the series to me. The fight could have ended better despite the cool headbutting,biting,bloody,desperate,realisticly superhero fight.

Kirkman i hope makes so Conquest isnt really dead.

The one thing he sucks with is the fact he kills off all good villains. He gotta learn how to have a dangersous nemesis. Thats half of a good superhero.

Every Spidey or Batman needs a Green Goblin,The Joker.....

[Dave H]

Headbutting and biting was too cool, i was like woow.

Only problem with the fight to me that wasnt awesome is the fact some puny human like Eve really finished off Conquest.

Mark should have won on his own. Not finished the guy when Eve burned half his body away.


I must say next issue better be awesome and cant wait for Allen,Nolan issues.

Issue 64 was the first dissapointing issue of the series to me. The fight could have ended better despite the cool headbutting,biting,bloody,desperate,realisticly superhero fight.

Kirkman i hope makes so Conquest isnt really dead.

The one thing he sucks with is the fact he kills off all good villains. He gotta learn how to have a dangersous nemesis. Thats half of a good superhero.

Every Spidey or Batman needs a Green Goblin,The Joker.....
Angstrom Levy?

I dunno how anyone couldn't like this issue.
Especially after all the "Eve should have just turned Conquest into a puddle" comments.

You win this round, Kirkman, but I won't be fooled again!

[kane]

The problem i have is that Eve should have died after the first blow. Conquest hit her in the face. Even if he did not take her seriously, she should have died instantly.

[Libaax]

Angstrom Levy?

I dunno how anyone couldn't like this issue.
Especially after all the "Eve should have just turned Conquest into a puddle" comments.

You win this round, Kirkman, but I won't be fooled again!

Angstrom Levy doesnt have that kind of potential, danger to him.

Eve shouldnt have been able to hurt Conquest even.

It makes Mark powers look silly if she can do that.

[Dave H]

Angstrom Levy doesnt have that kind of potential, danger to him.

Eve shouldnt have been able to hurt Conquest even.

It makes Mark powers look silly if she can do that.

He's already made Mark his number 1 priority twice.
He's responsible for the entire Invincible War that destroyed most of the earth and killed an insane amount of people. What else does he have to do to make it on the "arch nemesis" list?
There's also Power Plex, once he gets his shit together.

Eve COULDN'T hurt Conquest initially.
She needed her limiter removed in order to do any damage.
It's not like she took him down single handedly.

Without her limiter she's one of the most powerful beings on the planet.
How does that make Mark look silly?

It's supposed to be explained next issue anyways.

[Libaax]

The best thing with Invincible power wise was that he was the only on his level. Only he could touch the enemies from his father's people.

Doesnt make them as dangerous, him as powerful,needed if Eve can blast the Invincible level enemies to death....

Power Plex is interesting. Levy hasnt been used well for so long it feels. He was interesting. For now he is like Lex Luthor he cant really hurt Mark. Thats why i wanted this fight to end better.

I hope Kirkman explains well the next issue what happened in the end of the fight with Eve.

You dont want the same old story. Keep Invincible away from the things we have seen too many times in other similar superheroes....

But hey if Conquest isnt dead or something else hardcore who cares about Eve.

[Dave H]

The best thing with Invincible power wise was that he was the only on his level. Only he could touch the enemies from his father's people.

Doesnt make them as dangerous, him as powerful,needed if Eve can blast the Invincible level enemies to death....

Power Plex is interesting. Levy hasnt been used well for so long it feels. He was interesting. For now he is like Lex Luthor he cant really hurt Mark. Thats why i wanted this fight to end better.

I hope Kirkman explains well the next issue what happened in the end of the fight with Eve.

You dont want the same old story. Keep Invincible away from the things we have seen too many times in other similar superheroes....

But hey if Conquest isnt dead or something else hardcore who cares about Eve.
We still don't know if that was a one time deal with Eve or something we can expect all the time. Either way, she passed out immediately after expending that much energy and it didn't even really stop Conquest. Up until that point Mark had done all the damage, and was holding his own anyways so I don't see it as a slight to him at all.

Invincible is hardly the only in his powerset. Just look at how many other heroes killed the Evincibles or how often he gets clobbered by plenty of the villains he's faced so far. He got punked by mole monsters and Re-animan Rick, I mean come on.

[Zetadog]

You make good points. Kirkman must solve that problem of why Viltrumites wont see humans as a way to create powerful hybrids.

Maybe showing Its Mark experiance, special talent or genetics of Nolan is why he is so powerful. It would be too much if human+ Viltrumites was automatical uber powerful.

We've only seen one Female Viltrumite. she seemed to command the respect of the other males, who Nolan and Mark had fought on the bug planet. And she outfought Mark much more easily than 'Conquest'. Maybe the females are more powerful than the males. Or was this before Mark started "working out" so much.

the evidence indicates Nolan was probably stronger than Conquest. Nolan didn't lose an arm and an eye on the shark planet. Maybe the Viltrumites had a fixation with proving themselves on that planet, and died by the millions trying to fist fight the monsters there. to impress the chicks.

Eve could have disconnected Conquests prosthetic arm even if she couldn't get through his invulnerability. or put tar-goop all over his eyes and ears.

it looks like most of the grunts and redshirts on the Viltrumite ships are hybrids of some sort.

[MythicBrawn]

We've only seen one Female Viltrumite. she seemed to command the respect of the other males, who Nolan and Mark had fought on the bug planet. And she outfought Mark much more easily than 'Conquest'. Maybe the females are more powerful than the males. Or was this before Mark started "working out" so much.


Mark is only 18, maybe 19, years old. I figure all the Viltrumites he's been up against are centuries old, thus making them more powerful and experienced. He's been working out but he still has a ways to go. He couldn't beat his dad. The only reason he survived on Oliver's planet was because of Nolan. The female would have killed him too if that was her mission. I think what made the Conquest battle different was that he put everything aside and was going to win by any means necessary. Maybe Conquest's real mission was to get Mark to accept his heritage. Conquest seemed to be pushing him towards something. Regardless, Conquest was successful in one way and that was by getting Mark to fulfill his people's ideals. By Viltrumite standards, Mark did a good thing by eliminating the "weak" Conquest and proving himself to be strong. Nolan said his people get medals for that type of behavior. I guess Mark will be attending an awards ceremony some time soon. Plus, all that damage he took will only make him stronger once he fully heals.

[Libaax]

We still don't know if that was a one time deal with Eve or something we can expect all the time. Either way, she passed out immediately after expending that much energy and it didn't even really stop Conquest. Up until that point Mark had done all the damage, and was holding his own anyways so I don't see it as a slight to him at all.

Invincible is hardly the only in his powerset. Just look at how many other heroes killed the Evincibles or how often he gets clobbered by plenty of the villains he's faced so far. He got punked by mole monsters and Re-animan Rick, I mean come on.

Mark was holding his own thats why it seemed cheap that Eve should hurt conquest so much that Mark finishing him was like killing a cripple since he couldnt fight back after that.


Of course the other Invincibles had to lose otherwise they would have owned all the superheroes destroyed the world and finished the comic if they were all at Mark level.

Its clear he was the only who could fight Conquest just like when he and Omni-Man fought. The pentagon old man said that many times.

[Samuraixsithlord]

The difference between Mark's fight with Conquest and his fight with his dad and Arisa (the female Viltrumite's name if i recall) is that he was fighting at his full potential and wasn't pulling his punches.

[Libaax]

Yeah that was made it interesting. It was so bloody and sick seeing Mark getting beaten to a pulp.


I dont want to sound whiney with my earlier posts, i just expect better writing from the series after having being impressed by it constantly for years.

[Flâneur]

Mark was holding his own thats why it seemed cheap that Eve should hurt conquest so much that Mark finishing him was like killing a cripple since he couldnt fight back after that.


Of course the other Invincibles had to lose otherwise they would have owned all the superheroes destroyed the world and finished the comic if they were all at Mark level.

Its clear he was the only who could fight Conquest just like when he and Omni-Man fought. The pentagon old man said that many times.
Eh, Eve is technically one of the most powerful metahumans on their planet. She underperformed against Conquest here and, with her block removed, could have just transmuted him into a turd. Even with her block she could've removed his cyborg arm or created a Rex Splode style explosion within Conquest's lungs or similar and at max capacity those things can one shot Invincible.

If you read the handbook Kirkman put together for the Invincible-verse, you'll see that it says that apart from the Viltrumite race there has only been three successful attempts at Smart Atoms being used to create metahumans - Eve, the Immortal and Allen - and that Eve is the only experiment where they managed to improve upon the Viltrumite Smart Atoms. So Eve is serious business.

I reallllly wouldn't complain about her helping Invincible here and there's no poor writing in her contributing.

[Libaax]

My last word about this thing is that there is no problem with of her being powerful enough to help Invincible, i thought it was more likely she finished Conquest off. Which was annoying to me after the long battle beteween him and Mark.


I have no problem with her or powers otherwise.

[GRANT!]

http://fc06.deviantart.com/fs46/f/2009/213/b/3/Invincible_68_cover_by_WyA.jpg

Invincible fighting a dinosaur and rocking some cyborg arms. This is why I read comics.

[Samuraixsithlord]

i thought it was more likely she finished Conquest off. Which was annoying to me after the long battle beteween him and Mark.

Conquest was hurt, but he still kept on coming. Most people would die from shock after getting flayed like that, it only made him angry. He was still coherent enough to crack jokes and crush Mark's hand. Eve's attack didn't really make a difference despite the injuries it inflicted on Conquest.

[malephoenix]

Invincible fighting a dinosaur and rocking some cyborg arms. This is why I read comics.

A dinosaur in metal pants, no less!

[Salvester]

Doesn't that Dinosaur look like one that Levy sent Invincible go

[GRANT!]

Doesn't that Dinosaur look like one that Levy sent Invincible go

Yeah. The Dinosaur dimension. I was hoping to see more of that.

[Salvester]

Invincible rules....
This book is just awesome.

[Andrenn]

@Grant: Dude, where did you get the picture? Is it a page from Invincible #65 or Invincible Returns or something? It looks awesome.

[GRANT!]

@Grant: Dude, where did you get the picture? Is it a page from Invincible #65 or Invincible Returns or something? It looks awesome.

Someone posted on Kirkman's board at Imagecomics.com

It's the cover of Invincible #68.

[Libaax]

That pic is awesome, cant wait to read that !!

[Protoman]

just read Invincible #65, some interesting stuff goin on with Cecil...


and oh god, i think Atom Eve is becoming Jessica Rabbit

[Dave H]

Cecil is one stupid mfer.

[funcrusherplus]

So... anyone want to post some spoilers for me? I totally spaced it was comming out today, and didn't remember till all the shops were closed, and couldn't find any torrents either...

I do not want to have to wait till tomorrow. That'd be torturous.

[Michael P]

So... anyone want to post some spoilers for me? I totally spaced it was coming out today, and didn't remember till all the shops were closed, and couldn't find any torrents either...

I do not want to have to wait till tomorrow. That'd be torturous.

Where I'm posting from, it's already tomorrow. You'll live.

[funcrusherplus]

Where I'm posting from, it's already tomorrow. You'll live.

You're right. I will live. But what kind of quality of life will it be for the next 12 hours or so before I do buy it? Oh sure I'll sleep for probably... 8 of them but those other 4 hours awake will be worse than the worst humanity has to offer. It would be a true horror show, and my life would be in shambles.


Ok, enough snark. You're right. I will live, and I could be patient and wait. But the fact is I don't want to. I want to know now. A simple favor is all I asked, and if you (or anyone else) chooses not to grant me that favor, than that's fine. It's a favor, not a demand.

C'est la vie.

[jtd]

Invincible fighting a dinosaur and rocking some cyborg arms. This is why I read comics.

Damn...well said. :)

Invincible is the best comic on the market. I'm continuously surprised it's not a top 50 book.

[MythicBrawn]

Image is putting out some great stuff. It is pretty much the reason that I go to the LCS. It certainly isn't because of the drek put out by the big two. Unfortunately, Astounding Wolf-Man is going to be cancelled.

[sgt pepper]

Cecil is one stupid mfer.

First name Cecil, last name Hubris.

[Kaos]

I do like the android arms.

[Surtur]

So I enjoyed the latest issue, it was nice to see Omni-Man and Allen working together.

[michaeljsmith]

after all of the excitement through the Invincible War and then Conquest these were great issues to catch your breath

[Shinigami Grahf]

after all of the excitement through the Invincible War and then Conquest these were great issues to catch your breath

Its a nice breather before we hit the next big roller coaster.

[Manchine]

I do like the android arms.

I was thinking they were just some type of armor while his bones healed.

[michaeljsmith]

I was thinking they were just some type of armor while his bones healed.

they are - you can see from the preview that something happens to one of them

[Protoman]

Invincible #68 was amazing

i LOVE the panel of Mark after he has a talk with Eve's dad about virginity lol

[michaeljsmith]

yep, Eve is a ho :eek:

[Toonimator]

Invincible #68 was amazing

i LOVE the panel of Mark after he has a talk with Eve's dad about virginity lol
Yeah, Mark's expressions throughout the visit to Eve's house were priceless.

Was it just a coloring quirk, or is Oliver's skin getting less purple now that he's aged a bit more? Viltrumite pigmentation winning out over time? Like the new costume!

Someone in the letters page totally called what was happening... those damn potent Viltrumites!

[Protoman]

yeah his skin color was completely different in this issue, and he looks a couple years older by human standards

cant wait until he's old enough to fight alongside Mark, but knowing Kirkman he'll probably turn evil

[CMBMOOL]

I have to say I find it odd that Kirkman isn't using Invincible in the upcoming "Image United" mini, given the fact that he's helping writing this event. :frown:

[GRANT!]

I have to say I find it odd that Kirkman isn't using Invincible in the upcoming "Image United" mini, given the fact that he's helping writing this event. :frown:

Invincible is in it. Maybe not every issue but he'll make an appearance.

[CMBMOOL]

Invincible is in it. Maybe not every issue but he'll make an appearance.

Thank goodness. :redface:

Now I can say that it may be a full all out Image World crossover. :biggrin: