Invincible (News, Reviews, Spoilers)

[Derrick Fish]

Man, I just LOVED this most recent arc. (Still holding judgment on the new suit until I see it in action and see what the story behind it is.) It not only ended a lot of lingering plotlines (Or at least resolved them for the time being.) but it also showed some of the best development as a character and a HERO that Mark has gone through.

When he decided NOT to just burst out of that pod-thingy, and decided to hold back and think of a better PLAN, Mark really made the shift from reactionary hero to THINKING hero, and I LOVED it!

I'll take 50 more, sir. :)

[alveraz]

I just started reading this, with issue #50. I enjoyed it, but not much story there, just a chase and lots of blood. The jury is out for me but I'll pick up the next few issues to decide if I'm going to continue. Looks like it could be a fun ride.

[michaeljsmith]

I just started reading this, with issue #50. I enjoyed it, but not much story there, just a chase and lots of blood. The jury is out for me but I'll pick up the next few issues to decide if I'm going to continue. Looks like it could be a fun ride.

50 was really about tying up loose ends, I think 51 is going to be a much better jumping on/starting point for you. It is a great series and I would be surprised if you didn't like it.

[Seraku]

anyone know when firebreather 2 and Invincible 51 come out?

[samson]

I just picked up the first three trades and was blown away...

my question now is...

do I just jump on at #50 or catch up on the trades first? I'll be picking up the trades as quickly as my meager comics budget allows but will I ruin a lot of surprises for myself by jumping on board with the current issues at this point?

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[Union Jack]

I just picked up the first three trades and was blown away...

my question now is...

do I just jump on at #50 or catch up on the trades first? I'll be picking up the trades as quickly as my meager comics budget allows but will I ruin a lot of surprises for myself by jumping on board with the current issues at this point?

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I'd maybe start from issue 51 if i were you. You might ruin some of the stuff involving the Viltrumites though.

[samson]

Gonna have to wait then. I really don't want to spoil that stuff.

[savage_fan@Dragon_man-96]

i love this book its one of the 6 titles i pick up and all are from image

[michaeljsmith]

I just picked up the first three trades and was blown away...

my question now is...

do I just jump on at #50 or catch up on the trades first? I'll be picking up the trades as quickly as my meager comics budget allows but will I ruin a lot of surprises for myself by jumping on board with the current issues at this point?

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I don't think you can wrong either direction. I started in the late 30's and did not read the back issues until I was in the mid 40's.

[MythicBrawn]

i love this book its one of the 6 titles i pick up and all are from image

Image, IMHO, is putting out way better stuff than Marvel or DC. I guess that's the benefit of being a small shop and not being shackled to continuity. Now, if only Image's stuff would come out on a regular basis.

[michaeljsmith]

Image, IMHO, is putting out way better stuff than Marvel or DC. I guess that's the benefit of being a small shop and not being shackled to continuity. Now, if only Image's stuff would come out on a regular basis.

I don't think that Image is dramatically worse than the big guys on lateness. There are some timely books like Proof, Screamland, and Spawn to compliment that few late books like Invincible, Firebreather, and The Walking Dead.

[Ben Akers]

I don't think that Image is dramatically worse than the big guys on lateness. There are some timely books like Proof, Screamland, and Spawn to compliment that few late books like Invincible, Firebreather, and The Walking Dead.

And on those books (or at least TWD and Invincible that I know from expierience) the end result is well worth the wait. On the big guys, I've found it to be a different story.

[MythicBrawn]

I posted a thread about Superman archetypes and it got me thinking about Omni-Man. Was he a virgin before he came to Earth and hooked up with his wife? I seem to remember him saying that he wasn't accustomed to physical love. Maybe, I'm remembering it wrong. I guess it's possible if he threw himself into world conquering.

[michaeljsmith]

I posted a thread about Superman archetypes and it got me thinking about Omni-Man. Was he a virgin before he came to Earth and hooked up with his wife? I seem to remember him saying that he wasn't accustomed to physical love. Maybe, I'm remembering it wrong. I guess it's possible if he threw himself into world conquering.

Gotcha thinking that there could be a few extra kids out there didn't I? :biggrin:

[HaroldAllnut]

I posted a thread about Superman archetypes and it got me thinking about Omni-Man. Was he a virgin before he came to Earth and hooked up with his wife? I seem to remember him saying that he wasn't accustomed to physical love. Maybe, I'm remembering it wrong. I guess it's possible if he threw himself into world conquering.Gotcha thinking that there could be a few extra kids out there didn't I? :biggrin:

It's funny that you say that, because I'm almost instantly reminded of the rumors regarding that Viltrumite chick from Invincible #44; people used to think that she was Mark's sister, but Kirkman evidently denied that in an interview.

[MythicBrawn]

I never thought the two were related. If anything I thought the Viltrumite female was older than Nolan/Omni-Man. Maybe it's because she's had four husbands. I think Viltrumites handle divorce differently. Marriage for them is truly until death do you part. Divorce probably consists of the two parties fighting to the death. The marriage is dissolved when one of them is dead. It kills two birds with one stone. The marriage ends and the Viltrumite empire is strengthened by the "weak" element being eliminated.

[michaeljsmith]

I completely forgot about that one until you just said it. I doubt that it would happen to be another Captain Dynamo but one more kid somewhere, besides Oliver, maybe that could happen.

[Ben Akers]

Kirkman is clever enough to get around his own rules, which is part of what makes the series so brilliant. You never really know where its going to go next.

[Kusanagi]

Loved 51 though I could have done without the new costumes, KidOmniboyman's was hideous. Last page reveal was awesome.

[Bradpinder]

I like the new costume, Olivers was a little odd, but I think it works for the quirkyness of this book.

[jjcard]

I just started reading invincible in trade, just got to Vol 3, and holy crap what a twist, Everything has been turned around and its really cool.
PS: allen is the coolest

[Superboy-Prime]

I really hope, OLiver doesn't turn against Mark and work with Cecil.

[michaeljsmith]

I really hope, OLiver doesn't turn against Mark and work with Cecil.

:biggrin: :biggrin: Kid Omni-Man joins the new Guardians of the Globe. I like it :evilsmile: :evilsmile:

[Ben Akers]

It would make for some interesting parallels in terms of storytelling, but you just never know what Kirkman will do next.

[michaeljsmith]

It would make for some interesting parallels in terms of storytelling, but you just never know what Kirkman will do next.

Mark grows a mustache and flips out kills people just like dear old dad.

[Ben Akers]

I'm waiting for the day when the mustache starts growing incredibly fast...faster than he can shave it.

[MythicBrawn]

The mustache is supposed to be a cultural thing. It could possibly be a genetic thing. Maybe, that's what Omni-Man was alluding to Mark when he first developed his powers.

[michaeljsmith]

The mustache is supposed to be a cultural thing. It could possibly be a genetic thing. Maybe, that's what Omni-Man was alluding to Mark when he first developed his powers.

Mark with a mustache has been an ongoing joke. Kirkman joked about it at Wizard World Chicago. I don't see it happening.

[Ben Akers]

I sat down and read #51 last night and it was really great. I like having this feeling when I'm reading a comic.

[michaeljsmith]

I sat down and read #51 last night and it was really great. I like having this feeling when I'm reading a comic.

I just get all tingly and go numb from the waste down when I read it - but to each their own :eek: :confused: :rolleyes:

[Ben Akers]

I just get all tingly and go numb from the waste down when I read it - but to each their own :eek: :confused: :rolleyes:

I don't want to how you react to an issue of Bomb Queen....

:eek:

[michaeljsmith]

I don't want to how you react to an issue of Bomb Queen....

:eek:

She scares me - I think she would hurt me....but I might like it.

[Ben Akers]

She scares me - I think she would hurt me....but I might like it.

I would probably take and then ask for more.

Although this is probably the wrong forum to debate such thought in.

[Union Jack]

I sat down and read #51 last night and it was really great. I like having this feeling when I'm reading a comic.

Issue 51 was just great. Really well written, and setting up some nice stuff for the future. That last page was unexpected by myself.

People pissed off with Brand New Day Spider-Man should give this comic a go, its definitely got an old-school Spidey vibe to it...

And i had a letter printed! :cool: :biggrin: :tongue:

[michaeljsmith]

Issue 51 was just great. Really well written, and setting up some nice stuff for the future. That last page was unexpected by myself.

People pissed off with Brand New Day Spider-Man should give this comic a go, its definitely got an old-school Spidey vibe to it...

And i had a letter printed! :cool: :biggrin: :tongue:

51 was the perfect place for the new readers to jump on and just a great continuation for those that read the first 50 issues.

The last page was obviously an "oh crap" moment!

[ezekielreigns]

I just picked up the first Ultimate Collection and I loved it.

[michaeljsmith]

I just picked up the first Ultimate Collection and I loved it.

Well what are you doing sitting there? Go get #2 and #3 of the collection.

[Ben Akers]

Wow, I remember reading the first trade and immediatly needing to buy the next one, and then the next one and so on and so forth.

That's willpower to not need more...

[UK Pete]

I saw a full run of Invincible on ebay...
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Invincible-full-run-Image-Kirkman_W0QQitemZ330265591622QQcmdZViewItem?hash=i tem330265591622&_trkparms=72%3A12

I live quite local to the seller, so i'd be able to pick it up.
It's a full collection, so it'd save me on the shipping which i could put towards my bid.

But what i want to know is... what's it worth?
I've got a bit of cash, so providing it doesn't go for a vast ammount, it's mine!
But i'll be pretty dissapointed if i find out i payed over the odds.

Any help?

[UK Pete]

Sorry if the above post is against the rules.

Please remove any offending parts if so, but please can you still leave my question. It's not often a full run of Invincible appears on ebay (if ever) and i don't want to miss out.

Thanks!

[Von Zombie]

I just finished the first hardcover today. The first 6 or 7 issues didn't excite me all that much, and If I had been buying the monthly from the beginning I probably would have given up on it. After the slow start, it's just all kick ass. glad my library had the hardcover. Now I just need vols. 2 and 3.

[Ben Akers]

But what i want to know is... what's it worth?


The easy answer: Whatever someone will pay for it.

It all depends on how bad you have to have the individual issues, because you've got a choice of hardcovers, trade paperbacks and the issues themselves. The series reads good all ways. If you like having an actual comic in your hands and really want the whole run, then you just have to figure out just how much you want to pay for the Ebay lot. I mean you could look up the prices in a guide, but its not an exact science either.

[MasterChiefofComics]

Read this series since the beginning(took a risk with #1 and it was one of the best decisions of my life and I'm 15 as of now lol)and it never fails to amaze me

[Mr. Earl Brooks]

I just finished the tpb vol. 9. I think it ended with issue 47. Was 51 the last issue to come out?

I'm torn between wanting to pick up all of the single issues and wanting to wait for the next trade?

What was the latest issue?

[Ben Akers]

#51 was the last to come out.

#52 comes out on the 10th (I believe).

[Superboy-Prime]

I think Kirkman is actually going to make oliver turn against mark, something that I think is lame. Also, I think Cecil is going to get to him and use the fact that mark won't let oliver go on missions with him" to seduce oliver.

[ultramandingo]

............ re # 52 - " sckra-goom !" - "goom !!" ............owiee

[Tremnar]

As usual Kirkman continues to please with Invincible...even If I can't stand the new costume.

Oliver losing control was great I think that Kid Omni-Man may pull a Kid Miracle(Marvel)-Man, before too long. He may be even be getting stronger than Mark at this point. He could be a real threat.

-T-

[GRANT!]

I think Kirkman is actually going to make oliver turn against mark, something that I think is lame. Also, I think Cecil is going to get to him and use the fact that mark won't let oliver go on missions with him" to seduce oliver.

After this recent issue it looks like Oliver is more likely to join the Viltrumites.

[GRANT!]

As usual Kirkman continues to please with Invincible...even If I can't stand the new costume.

Oliver losing control was great I think that Kid Omni-Man may pull a Kid Miracle(Marvel)-Man, before too long. He may be even be getting stronger than Mark at this point. He could be a real threat.

-T-

He's also rapidly aging. He could hit adulthood within the next ten issues with a big purple mustache.

[BigBoss]

I just started reading invincible at issue 51, I love the book series it's amazing.

[HaroldAllnut]

He's also rapidly aging. He could hit adulthood within the next ten issues with a big purple mustache.

Y'know, that actually would make a good deal of sense, considering his hybrid biology. Heh.

[GRANT!]

Y'know, that actually would make a good deal of sense, considering his hybrid biology. Heh.

I think it was established early on that Oliver would hit adulthood pretty soon. He's slowed down a bit recently. But I think we'll see adult Oliver by issue 75 if not sooner.

[HaroldAllnut]

I just reread issue 51. Am I the only one who thinks there's something up with Rex?

I think it was established early on that Oliver would hit adulthood pretty soon. He's slowed down a bit recently. But I think we'll see adult Oliver by issue 75 if not sooner.

Kirkman's not pulling any punches regarding the growth thing, but all I've got to say is that Oliver's turning into a real a-hole, real fast.

[michaeljsmith]

Kirkman's not pulling any punches regarding the growth thing, but all I've got to say is that Oliver's turning into a real a-hole, real fast.

His speech sounded just like Nolan's from a long-time ago, like father like son.

[michaeljsmith]

SPOILERS
Here are are some penciled pages from issue #52 for those that have not seen them yet













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[HaroldAllnut]

His speech sounded just like Nolan's from a long-time ago, like father like son.

Good point. I was thinking that as I read it. His speech is becoming more and more Viltrumite.

[MatthewC]

Oliver losing control was great I think that Kid Omni-Man may pull a Kid Miracle(Marvel)-Man, before too long. He may be even be getting stronger than Mark at this point. He could be a real threat.

The first Mauler twin was an accident. The second one he definitely meant to kill. (And let's face it, killing only one Mauler twin hardly counts as murder.)

Too bad mark wasn't more eloquent in his defense of "every life matters" though. There are definitely better arguments to be made against Oliver's position.

[Tremnar]

He's also rapidly aging. He could hit adulthood within the next ten issues with a big purple mustache.

I absolutely agree. I've been thinking that Oliver could end up being a great asset or threat to earths defense since he first started to show powers and at such a 'young' age developmentally.

The Stach is bound to show up. I'd love to find out that Mark shaves a fully grown stach off every day.

The first Mauler twin was an accident. The second one he definitely meant to kill. (And let's face it, killing only one Mauler twin hardly counts as murder.) lol. Never really thought of it like that. I've loved the whole I'm the original clone argument, lots of fun.

Too bad mark wasn't more eloquent in his defense of "every life matters" though. There are definitely better arguments to be made against Oliver's position.
It was pretty weak. Oliver is a damn smart kid though, he outargued his big bro, and maybe revealed some deep doubts that mark has.

[GRANT!]

It was pretty weak. Oliver is a damn smart kid though, he outargued his big bro, and maybe revealed some deep doubts that mark has.

I think that's what made the issue. The fact Mark sometimes thinks his dad had the right idea.

Some people think Oliver is acting out of character. I disagree. He's growing up way too fast. His powers are developing much faster then Mark and there's a good chance he could out power Mark. He's getting smarter but lacking the maturity and compassion that comes with growing up.

Be interesting where this goes.

[Kusanagi]

Oliver is damn scary, Cecil had it right saying it's unnerving to see a kid do that, even if they kind of deserved it. It's scary how much power is in that young a frame, and as Mark might not want to he's probably going to be the one to stop him if he crosses the line.

[Gnarl]

How much emphaty can he be expected to have for an alien people?

Mark is half human, Oliver is not. I got the distinct impression from the speech that he cares for some specific humans, but not much for general ones.

We don't know know much about the other side, or their emotional spectrum. I am not sure they matter much anyway. Soon he'll have outlived the lifespan of his mothers people.

It is only natural that he'd orient himself towards his fathers people.

Or he just went trough puberty this issue.

[Mr. Earl Brooks]

I just reread issue 51. Am I the only one who thinks there's something up with Rex?

There's definitely a mystery left as to why he survived a bullet to the head. If Kirkman hadn't addressed it the way he did, I could dismiss it as comic book super hero survival, but the way Rex talked about it seemed to suggest a deeper meaning.

[Webslinger86]

Invincible 51 was definitely awesome, and 52 was a total shocker. It shocked me to see Oliver take down the Mauler Twins. Sure, they are villains, but they were my favorite villains when I read about them in the trade paperbacks two years ago.

Other than that, it's good I jumped on with 51. ^^

[BigBoss]

Invincible 51 was definitely awesome, and 52 was a total shocker. It shocked me to see Oliver take down the Mauler Twins. Sure, they are villains, but they were my favorite villains when I read about them in the trade paperbacks two years ago.

Other than that, it's good I jumped on with 51. ^^

I did not see though such a gruesome death with olviver coming though.

[Webslinger86]

Yes, I didn't expect Oliver to kill them in cold-blood. I see him as a possible arch-villain to Invincible in the distant future.

[Mr. Earl Brooks]

Yes, I didn't expect Oliver to kill them in cold-blood. I see him as a possible arch-villain to Invincible in the distant future.

I can't wait to see how Nolan reacts when he comes back and finds that oliver is a chip off the old block, so to speak.

We're certainly led to believe (at this point) that Nolan has learned lessons it'll be interesting for him to come face to face with both his children.

I'm dying to get an update on Allen and the gang though.

[Kareem]

So... good,

damn.

[MythicBrawn]

The only human that Oliver cares about is Mother Debbie. Anybody else is a waste of space. Nolan or Mark will have to put Oliver down at some point. Who knows, he may move to Viltrum and make his presence known there. They may not accept him at first but after he proves his worthiness by killing off some of his kinsmen, then he should be accepted.

[michaeljsmith]

The only human that Oliver cares about is Mother Debbie. Anybody else is a waste of space. Nolan or Mark will have to put Oliver down at some point. Who knows, he may move to Viltrum and make his presence known there. They may not accept him at first but after he proves his worthiness by killing off some of his kinsmen, then he should be accepted.

Unless he cares about his tutor who brainwashed him to act this way based on Cecil's direction causing Oliver to be the thing that Mark hated about Cecil :rolleyes:

[bushboy]

I hate my LCS. I've had Invincible on my pull list but they haven't gotten 51 or 52 in yet :frown:

[michaeljsmith]

I hate my LCS. I've had Invincible on my pull list but they haven't gotten 51 or 52 in yet :frown:

Time to get a new LCS my man :evilsmile:

[torippu]

I hate my LCS. I've had Invincible on my pull list but they haven't gotten 51 or 52 in yet :frown:

Time to get a new LCS my man :evilsmile:

Or use a mail order company!

[samson]

I discovered Invincible really late in the game, and just last night finished up the ninth (most current?) trade. This stuff is like crack to me, I NEED MORE.

Here's my dilemma: I want to start picking up the singles and following from month to month, BUT... I don't want to jump past any Viltrumite stuff and have it spoiled for me. Should I wait for the tenth trade or try to track down that run in singles to get current?

[michaeljsmith]

I discovered Invincible really late in the game, and just last night finished up the ninth (most current?) trade. This stuff is like crack to me, I NEED MORE.

Here's my dilemma: I want to start picking up the singles and following from month to month, BUT... I don't want to jump past any Viltrumite stuff and have it spoiled for me. Should I wait for the tenth trade or try to track down that run in singles to get current?

I always believe in the sooner the better with this book- track them down and get on board NOW!

[vickvega]

This comic is like Crack. The art and stories just get better and better. That two page spread with the Mauler Twins is F#^%cking Gorgeous. Is it just me or does the art look better in the Single Issue Format? Kirkman kicks ass.

[ElDuderino456]

Hell yeah Invincible 54 is solicited for the week after 53 comes out.

[michaeljsmith]

Hell yeah Invincible 54 is solicited for the week after 53 comes out.

Won't happen. The solicits are so far off right now it isn't funny.

I think we will see the book back on track, but not a week apart at any point...not even for one issue. It is not good for sales.

[ElDuderino456]

Won't happen. The solicits are so far off right now it isn't funny.

I think we will see the book back on track, but not a week apart at any point...not even for one issue. It is not good for sales.


Do you think that we will even see 53 next week?

[Ben Akers]

Do you think that we will even see 53 next week?

It's confirmed....thank goodness.

More Invincible is always good.

[michaeljsmith]

It's confirmed....thank goodness.

More Invincible is always good.

Of course you will have to wait a week or two due to mail order :shock:

Kidding

[Ben Akers]

Actually, it'll probably be the end of October.

But its kewl, I still have #52 on the way...

[BigBoss]

IM pumped for the showdown between invincible and titan yea!

[samson]

I'm finally caught up. RAWR!

Very excited about the Allen/Nolan and Robot/Monster Girl sub-plots right now.

[ElDuderino456]

Its awesome that we are finally getting some issues in quick succession

[BigBoss]

Its also cool for new readers that just jumped on I couldent handel this book like you guys with all the delays.

[vickvega]

Damn! Issue #53 didnt ship!? I was really looking forward to this.

[michaeljsmith]

ISSUE #53 - SPOILERS INCLUDED
(and yes it shipped)






ART:
I really don't know if it is me or not but the cover is one of me least favorites. I liked the concept of it but not the execution... OK now that I got out the ONLY half-way negative thing I could find about the book let's move on.

The art for some reason just seemed to really pop for me in this issue. It is always A+ work but for some reason this issue seems to have an extra "+" at the end of that "A". I don't know if the colors are starting to come back in line since Crabtree left or what but BEUTIFUL does not do the art justice.

STORY:
To story was great. We get to see Mark and Eve trying to make a go at it and the fact that she is "Probably the Best Superhero Girlfriend in the Universe" to steal a tag line. She is a little needy and Mark is absent so they might need to team up a little more to balance the relationship.

Titan and The Order getting into potential war is great. Another sub-plot/storyline that has a lot of potential and will keep things moving as it is sprinkled in over the next 20 issues :wink: . Shocked to see Isotope choose the side he did, but maybe there is more to it than that.

The last page again made me like Oliver even more. Since he does age at a different rate than Mark could he mentally be much older than Mark now? I have a feeling he will be a villain before too long and Nolan will have to come back and law down the law (speaking of which we need some Nolan and Allen time).

OVERALL:
Overall it was another fabulous issue and proves time and time again why this book is in my top choices month in and month out. I would also like to say congratulations to the whole Invincible team - the timing between #52 and #53 was very impressive. I know we cannot expect that every month but if we get to a conistent 5 weeks I think you would be ROCK STARS.

Keep 'em coming.

[BigBoss]

Damn! Issue #53 didnt ship!? I was really looking forward to this.

My LCL didint get it eithier I wonder if this happening to anyone else?

[Mr. Earl Brooks]

My LCL didint get it eithier I wonder if this happening to anyone else?

My store was missing it too.

[dan bailey]

Same here. Diamond also neglected to ship them a couple of other titles that I don't remember (because I don't get them), as well as Alter Ego (which I do get). *sigh*

[dan bailey]

Double post. *deeper sigh*

[BigBoss]

I hopefully it comes in next week.

[vickvega]

my lcs confirmed it to ship next week, we didnt get savage dragon or red mass for mars. What is up with diamond only shipping to certain areas, it seems like the southeast was shafted. We cant get gas or comics around here:frown:

[Moorqueen]

Maybe I'm way off base but I think William and Rick are going to be revealed to be in a romantic relationship.

[HaroldAllnut]

Maybe I'm way off base but I think William and Rick are going to be revealed to be in a romantic relationship.

That would be awesome.

[michaeljsmith]

Maybe I'm way off base but I think William and Rick are going to be revealed to be in a romantic relationship.

I hope not. I'm sure Kirkman could write it but to me that would be more for shock and awe than developing the story of Invincible. Are we going to start having to deal with Mark's homophobe feelings?

Im hoping it goes the other way and Rick is still under the influence of Sinclair and tries to kill William.

[Ben Akers]

I hope not. I'm sure Kirkman could write it but to me that would be more for shock and awe than developing the story of Invincible. Are we going to start having to deal with Mark's homophobe feelings?


But that's part of what makes Invincible better than the average comic. This isn't for shock and awe, and he's not doing it to be PC, the way that DC has done with Batwoman and Marvel with Quicksilver because they feel theyneed to have gay characters. I think this subplot has been building for years anyways. It gives the series just a little bit more depth.

And if we're dealing with Mark's homophobic feelings that just makes him more of a real character despite all of the fantastic elements of the series. Half-alien superheroes are people too.

[MythicBrawn]

Alright, Oliver is going into sociopathic territory or is it that he is a half-Viltrumite, half-Mantis person hybrid? It seems that he is adopting more of the Viltrumite ways of thinking even though he has spent the bulk of his life raised human. He still remembers his people and even Nolan, but Nolan wouldn't have told him about Viltrum and its ways. I think Viltrumites mating with other species yields different results or Oliver has done some studying on his own and likes what he's finding. I guess I wonder what other Viltrumites would make of Oliver. Mark passed his right of passage. I imagine Oliver would be given that same opportunity, if the Viltrumites didn't kill him first.

[Kaos]

I hope not. I'm sure Kirkman could write it but to me that would be more for shock and awe than developing the story of Invincible. Are we going to start having to deal with Mark's homophobe feelings?


mark's homophobic?

[Jack]

Nothing about #54? There was some incredible work in it, I was expecting to have some comments to read.

For my part, I absolutely loved how Mark and Eve's date was done, and especially the two spreads. So sweet but so perfect.

[Libaax]

I thought it was great issue. Art better than usual and the date and time travel was well done.

Immortal becoming what he was damn...

[Kid Kyoto]

Any word on when the Invicible Ultimate Collection (the HCs) Vol 4 is coming out? Amazon had it coming in October but since then has taken off the date.

[AllisterH]

Nothing about #54? There was some incredible work in it, I was expecting to have some comments to read.

For my part, I absolutely loved how Mark and Eve's date was done, and especially the two spreads. So sweet but so perfect.

I despise Atomic Eve.

more than anything, I think she was only dating William to be close to Mark and that her constant putdowns on Mark's 1st girlfirend was a real turnoff.

Personally, I hate the relationship because it basically does state that "no, you can't have a normal and a super involved in a relationship"

BLEH. Eve has always struck me as the type to be the first to follow Magneto.

[sgt pepper]

So, this series generally does a great job with the quiet character moments as well as the smashing things, but really issue 56? Amber's boyfriend hits her? Obviously, this kind of violence against women is all too common in the real world and is an important issue, but seeing it in a comic I admire makes me groan more than a little. It is such a cliched subplot. We've seen it so many times before in different media, and yes even After School Specials and movies of the week, and Kirkman didn't seem to have anything new or interesting to add to what's come before so many times. I get that Kirkman needed some way to get Mark to lose his temper, but come on. There are lots of other ways that aren't so cliched. It really comes off as amateurish.

[michaeljsmith]

So, this series generally does a great job with the quiet character moments as well as the smashing things, but really issue 56? Amber's boyfriend hits her? Obviously, this kind of violence against women is all too common in the real world and is an important issue, but seeing it in a comic I admire makes me groan more than a little. It is such a cliched subplot. We've seen it so many times before in different media, and yes even After School Specials and movies of the week, and Kirkman didn't seem to have anything new or interesting to add to what's come before so many times. I get that Kirkman needed some way to get Mark to lose his temper, but come on. There are lots of other ways that aren't so cliched. It really comes off as amateurish.

I disagree 100%. The book is trying to portray "real life" situations and sometimes those are ugly and not fun. Do I think there is another way Kirkman could have told the story? Sure, but I also understand the direction he took. I respect what you are saying but I just do not agree with it personally

[Libaax]

I thought Kirkman did the issue well. It didnt feel like a clichè like i have seen in other superhero books.

Good issue overall. The art was even more gorgeous than usual.

I cant wait for issue 57.

[KiFF86]

I think the Amber story is going to be a little deeper then what people think. I mean she look really kind of crazy to me. Like she got this guy to hit her so she could have Mark around. Any guesses on the probe? I am calling the Viltrums

[Splatt]

Any guesses on the probe? I am calling the Viltrums

Angstrom Lewy.

[vickvega]

The Invincible/Astounding Wolf-man crossover was pretty good. Ive never noticed a colorist until FCO starting working on Invincible/AWM. Damn is he good, and Jason Howard did one HELL of a Ryan Ottley impression in Wolf-man #11. At first I thought AWM was too blocky and Cartoony but his artwork has greatly improved and changed since the first issue. Im really enjoying all of Kirkmans books at this point and I cant get enough. Invincible would have stomped that Vampire squad out quick.

[michaeljsmith]

Astounding Wolf-Man #11 & Invincible #57 - Spoilers Included


OK, maybe I am breaking a cardinal rule when it comes to talking about a book but who cares.... I am going to talk about two books at once. Invincible #57 was part one of a two part crossover with Astounding Wolf-Man which concluded in AWM #11. Since Robert Kirkman writes both books it was a natural crossover and since I read both books it was cool with me. While this story contained Invincible story and development it really felt like me this two-part story helped to push AWM forward in a big way. It was great to see Invincible interact with the team formerly known as the Teen Team, Cecil and also fight the Guardians of the Globe. I was shocked that Mark fell for the "white room" bit again - what an idiot. This really helped to develop Gary as a deeper character and demonstrate the direction he is looking to go with himself as a fugitive on the run. We also got to see a little more interaction with Gary and the Elder which is turning into a nice storyline that I would like to see more clearly developed.

One of the few things about Image Comics is there is no common universe. People will talk about the Image Universe but it doesn't exist. There is a Savage Dragon and other Image characters exist in his universe. Same with all of the other books. The cool thing about this crossover was these two characters do both exist in the Kirkman-verse and therefore they were true to character as they appeared in each others books. Faerber does a great job of this with Noble Causes and Dynamo 5. Kirkman mentioned that he is looking for Invincible and Astounding Wolf-Man to co-exist in the same universe and if he can pull that off I am going to be a bigger fan of AWM that is for sure.

Great art - wonderful story and a real treat that both books came out on the same day so you could read a two part crossover in one sitting, that just doesn't happen.

[KiFF86]

Angstrom Lewy.

Yeah, I totally forgot like the past 4 issues I wasn't caring too much for them.

[Den Frenzy]

So far I've read Invincible Vol 1, 2, and 3. My fiance bought me Volumes 4 thru 9 for Christmas so I'm looking forward to being almost caught up with the series in the next few weeks. I must say the first three trades have left me itching for more.

[michaeljsmith]

So far I've read Invincible Vol 1, 2, and 3. My fiance bought me Volumes 4 thru 9 for Christmas so I'm looking forward to being almost caught up with the series in the next few weeks. I must say the first three trades have left me itching for more.

enjoy - it is probably the most fun comic out there these days

[Libaax]

Its by far the most fun you can read in superhero comic.


I have trades 1-9 and enjoyed them immensly.

[Den Frenzy]

Like I said I enjoyed the first three trades immensely so I'm glad the others arrived today so I can get caught up. I'll probably continue reading Invincible in trades since I like to keep my collections in the same form.

The Viltrumite/Omni-Man, twist was something I didn't see coming that worked well and put Invincible apart from the other Super Hero books on the market.

[michaeljsmith]

Like I said I enjoyed the first three trades immensely so I'm glad the others arrived today so I can get caught up. I'll probably continue reading Invincible in trades since I like to keep my collections in the same form.

The Viltrumite/Omni-Man, twist was something I didn't see coming that worked well and put Invincible apart from the other Super Hero books on the market.

Wish I could hold out for trades... I need my Invincible monthly :biggrin:

[oogyboy]

Wish I could hold out for trades... I need my Invincible monthly :biggrin:

Fortunately for you now, and everyone else (myself included), Kirkman seems to have gotten his #@&% together and the books are coming out regularly with no delays in sight.

Invincible is easily one of the best books on the stands. I don't understand why more people aren't reading it.

[Ex_]

I'm on Invincible 38 right now, and I can't put these books down. This stuff is amazing. Robert Kirkman is Comic Jesus.

[Den Frenzy]

I just finished reading Volume 7 so I'm up to issue 35 now, I'm hoping to finish Volumes 8 and 9 this week. Things just keep getting better and better. I liked the Robot/Rex mini twist, I've got to admit I wouldn't have guessed that.

[michaeljsmith]

I just finished reading Volume 7 so I'm up to issue 35 now, I'm hoping to finish Volumes 8 and 9 this week. Things just keep getting better and better. I liked the Robot/Rex mini twist, I've got to admit I wouldn't have guessed that.

This is one of my favorite series without question :biggrin: and I am surprised more disgruntled Spider-Man fans have not checked this book out.

The Robot mini-Rex thing was an interesting dynamic and opened a lot of potential opportunities down the line. I don't want to talk ahead of where you are reading but I am glad to see another person enjoying this series.

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[supered]

Wow, im enjoy while reading this thread:biggrin:

[Den Frenzy]

I just wanted to make sure I wasn't losing my mind when I was reading about Mark and William's college friends/Reanimen. I think it's hilarious that the friends are Rick Sheridan and Chris Powell. It was a great nod to a character Kirkman seems to be fascinated by in Sleepwalker and another 90s staple that's about to make a come back Darkhawk.

I love Easter Eggs in comics.

[michaeljsmith]

Invincible #58 - Spoilers Included




How many pages were in this issue? 50? Maybe more. I swear Kirkman is a freaking magician. There were a ton of stories going on at one time and all of them lead you to believe that HUGE things are on the horizon... i.e. #60. So let's talk about Issue #58 which I will entitle Fantasy Island (is that title taken)

Eve and Mark are a security company now managing prisons and power plants? Could this lead us to a crossover with the fine folks from Capes, Inc. to claim he is crossing into their turf? Why not just get a job with them so that he can get enough money to buy a house? Eve in the professional look - nice touch (fantasy #1)

Oliver is going to hook up with his tutor. She is going to become a bad influence on him and she is going tell him how much better than Mark he really is and convince him to go out on his own. His is going to hook up with the hot teacher (fantasy #2)

Immortal and Dupli-Kate are getting a house together. This is an interesting twist because the future version of himself didn't remember Kate. She wants to have kids? Immortal kids that can make more and more of themselves? Can he even have kids? All I can think of is the famous line when it comes to her (and I walked in and there were more than one of here - fantasy #3)

All things are calm in the ocean, not much else to say there (no fantasy but I can sleep easier at night).

Killcannon has known Eve since she was a kid? Could there be more to the relationship than she is letting on? Eve might be a naughty girl after all (fantasy #4)

Shapesmith is a cheap ass? Art should put a hit out on him (no fantasy just an observation)

Darkwing is having doubts? Maybe this will lead us to the Darkwing RIP story arc in which we get a reasonable conclusion to how one darker hero's life comes to and end (fantasy #5 - take that Grant Morrison)

Rus Livingston is going to return soon (no fantasy but this proves I can read).

Monster Girl is not getting any younger. Robot is the bomb and could solve any problem known to man - I bet he could solve the economic climate of our country. Monster Girl is going to be so appreciative that she is going to be willing to do anything and he is going to make her dress up like Rossie the maid from the Jetson's and get kinky (fantasy #6 - give me a break we have all thought it).

Angstrom Levy is back and going to make Mark's life miserable (fantasy #7 - seeing Mark suffer a little bit just sounds like fun).

Loved that page with all of the different Marks. Spider-Mark, Grifer-Mark, Michael Jackson-Mark, mustache-Mark, Omni-Man-Mark...and they just keep coming. Great job.

Robert Kirkman, Ryan Ottley, Cliff, FCO, Rus and anyone else associated with this book please take a bow because you should be proud of the product you put out each and every month.

6 stars and 3 thumbs up because you are that good

[HaroldAllnut]

Yeah... I was scared this series was start to lag, but issue 58 was one of the best issues I've read in a long damn time. Keep it up, Kirkmeister and Company!

[Chaosopher]

Can Immortal have kids? Yes, since he was Abraham Lincoln, he can have kids, but not immortals, since Abraham Lincolns son did die of fever.

[HaroldAllnut]

Can Immortal have kids? Yes, since he was Abraham Lincoln, he can have kids, but not immortals, since Abraham Lincolns son did die of fever.

I think the Immortal can produce children, but I don't think they have his powers because he didn't have them all his life, but got them in a strange accident.

[TradePaperbackTraitor]

I think a lot of the indy creator-owned content involving superheroes is overrated but Invincible is one of the few that can stand up to Marvel and DC. The entire series has so many interesting characters and subplots that I fail to see how it won't have enough steam to keep going strong until at least #100. Unfortunately, Astounding Wolfman never grabbed me, even with his Invincible crossover, but I'm always down for Mark's latest adventures. This book is going to be epic when the Viltrumite invasion finally arrives.

[MrPalen]

Ah, what a great comic. Finally got caught up. The new colorist produces great work, but for me it's not a great fit for Invincible. The more 2-D simple Crabtree style really worked so well with Ottley's drawing. FCO feels a bit too computery or something.

[Jack]

Can Immortal have kids? Yes, since he was Abraham Lincoln, he can have kids, but not immortals, since Abraham Lincolns son did die of fever.
Immortal wasn't Lincoln. He took over for Lincoln after Lincoln was killed.

[Michael P]

Immortal wasn't Lincoln. He took over for Lincoln after Lincoln was killed.

No, he was Lincoln.

[Jack]

No, he was Lincoln.
Ahem. There is considerable historical evidence about the birth, childhood and youth of Abraham Lincoln, so it seems likely that at some point the Immortal assumed the identity of Lincoln, whom he greatly resembled. What happened to the real Lincoln is unknown; perhaps he died and the Immortal felt a duty to carry on Lincoln's political career. Lincoln's wife Mary suffered from bouts of insanity, perhaps because she knew the truth about the President's identity.Bitch.

[Tremnar]

Yet another great issue. Robert and Ryan continue to put out one of the best superhero books on the market.

And I tip my hat to Ryan as a Venture Bros fan, it was hilarious to see Doc venture and Brock Samson at the Hot Dog stand in the foreground.

[MrPalen]

Ahem. Bitch.

Well, what that says is kind of that he was Lincoln. The Lincoln everyone knows about, that was him. The Lincoln who shit his bed at age 9 etc, was some other dude no one cares about.

[Jack]

Well, what that says is kind of that he was Lincoln. The Lincoln everyone knows about, that was him. The Lincoln who shit his bed at age 9 etc, was some other dude no one cares about.
The question was whether Immortal has ever had any children. Lincoln wouldn't have been replaced by Immortal until after he became politically significant (or why bother?), and that wasn't until after all his children were born.

[Beatnikman]

Hey, I uhh ... haven't been around much, but I have some 80x80 Invincible-related avatars that I thought I oughta share with you all who are posting about Invincible.

If they really should be somewhere else, feel free to move these posts.

First up, Invincible himself ...

[Beatnikman]

More Invincible avatars ...

[Beatnikman]

4 more Invincible avatars, and 1 with Invincible and Atom Eve ...

[Beatnikman]

An animated avatar of Invincible discovering he has powers (this was when I knew I was going to like this book) ...

[Beatnikman]

Atom Eve avatars ...

[Beatnikman]

Allen the Alien avatars ...

[Beatnikman]

The Immortal and Rexsplode avatars ...

[Beatnikman]

Cecil Steadman, Robot, Monster Girl avatars ...

[Beatnikman]

Amber and William avatars (including that time Mark caught William wearing the Invincible suit) ...

[Beatnikman]

Omni-Man and Kid Omni-Man avatars (and I keep saying "avatars" so these will be searchable) ...

[Beatnikman]

And lastly, "the coolest comic book character ever" (according to the impartial Robert Kirkman), Science Dog avatars ...

Sorry about hijacking the thread. I'll be done now, and try to remember to come back and post when the next issue comes out!

[GRANT!]

Cool Science Dog avatars.

[Kaos]

Really cool avvys. Props.

[Manchine]

Very Cool, Beatnikman!

[Manchine]

Very Cool, Beatnikman!

[Manchine]

Very Cool, Beatnikman!

[NeoStar9X]

Quick question. Is there ever going to be an actual end to Invincible at some point (an end to the story on the writers terms even if it is still selling) or will the writer keep writing for ever and ever if given the chance (making it no different then franchise titles from big two that have gone on forever)?

[kometman]

I wish I had heard how great this book was sooner, since now I am having trouble hunting down the back issues! Before anyone mentions it, I prefer the back issues to tpb's so I consider them the last resort.

What's so great about back issues? All you get are distracting advertisements on every single page, no extras like scripts or cover scetches, and they cost more to get. In addition they wear out quite easily and you ahve to treat them with very intense care to keep them in mint/near mint condition. I honestly don't see it...

[Manchine]

Is there a reason why I am not seeing past page 60????

hmmm

[Libaax]

Why arent there any talk about issue 58 ?

My LCS finally got the monthly issues in my pull list and not only trades so i read 57,58.


No thoughts about Invincible going into bizz of taking money to protect ?

[malephoenix]

Quick question. Is there ever going to be an actual end to Invincible at some point (an end to the story on the writers terms even if it is still selling) or will the writer keep writing for ever and ever if given the chance (making it no different then franchise titles from big two that have gone on forever)?

From what I understand, the title will end if people stop buying. Otherwise, Robert'd prefer to keep writing it.

But that's exactly why it's a HUGE difference from Marvel & DC's franchise titles. Because it's ONE guy writing the entire thing. X-Men, Batman, and the rest have all had several dozen writers.

Maybe you meant something else by "making it no different then franchise titles from big two that have gone on forever," and I just misunderstood.

[Libaax]

Kirkman said in an interview Walking Dead will end eventually no matter if it keeps selling well. Its not eternal.

I think he means the same for Invincible. Eventually he will prolly end the story.

[Kusanagi]

Spoilers for 59

Well that was fucking tragic, I mostly worked out the man's motivations at the start, but I'm glad to see a character like him emerge. How many people died in the fight between Invincible and Omni Man, thousands? Hundreds of thousands? He honestly thought he was doing the right thing, but it all went so wrong. Invincible now assuredly has a rogue for life.

[Michael P]

Surprising but effective issue this month. I'd love to delve further into Powerplex's psyche.

[Beatnikman]

I liked seeing the story from the villain's perspective. That was different and well done. And it seems like my love for Ryan Ottley grows deeper and more obsessive and unhealthy with each issue. This whole issue looks great. (I'll scan some pics later and post some more avatars)

At first I felt kind of sympathetic towards Powerplex. Kusanagi is right that there would be people who would hate Invincible (and probably every hero has haters) because of collateral damage. That totally makes sense and it's nice to see it explored. When the wife and son died, though, my initial reaction was to kind of roll my eyes about him blaming Invincible for their deaths, too. But after I re-read it a couple times and thought about it some more, there are plenty of real-life people who blame other people for their failings. It seems especially plausible because his initial Invinci-hate had a somewhat valid basis.

Now I'm sitting here thinking about people who have blamed me and/or my friends for their mistakes. And now that's making me think about whole people groups and countries that do that. Stupid Robert Kirkman, making me think about real-life stuff.

[DeeSnider]

What's so great about back issues? All you get are distracting advertisements on every single page, no extras like scripts or cover scetches, and they cost more to get. In addition they wear out quite easily and you ahve to treat them with very intense care to keep them in mint/near mint condition. I honestly don't see it...

Not to mention the Hardcovers are oversized, why would you get the back issues or the trades for issues that are already released in hardcover? I've seen #1 alone go for more than you could get the first two hardcovers and a piece of the original art for.

[Seraku]

first half of this issue was comedy gold

2nd half is classic Kirkman


good issue overall

[sgt pepper]

So I'm of two minds on this one:

1. The toddler getting its brains fried is a pretty disturbing image and is not well suited to the established tone of the book.

2. Books about violence should show the actual consequences of using violence, and the image does just that.

[HaroldAllnut]

Quick question. Is there ever going to be an actual end to Invincible at some point (an end to the story on the writers terms even if it is still selling) or will the writer keep writing for ever and ever if given the chance (making it no different then franchise titles from big two that have gone on forever)?

Gooooooooooood question. I remember Kirkman making an offhand remark about wondering who would be writing and drawing the book by the time it reached issue 200. I don't know if he was just waxing hopeful or being serious, though. I hope he writes it for life.

[john.smit00]

why debate upon violence at all,i say.im pro-choice on that one.

[john.smit00]

why debate upon violence at all,i say.im pro-choice on that one.

[manji75]

So I'm of two minds on this one:

1. The toddler getting its brains fried is a pretty disturbing image and is not well suited to the established tone of the book.

actually, i think it's pretty well suited considering the level of violence has increased extremely in the last couple of dozen issues. Invincible as a book has gone from a pretty muted superhero comic to a pretty, though well written, ultra violent take on the genera.

i think the tone that has been developing over the last couple of years is quite violent and the realities and responsibilities that Mark is learning from this, and if the preview teasers for the Invinsible war and conquest story lines hint anything it's going to get alot darker this year.

[Libaax]

So I'm of two minds on this one:

1. The toddler getting its brains fried is a pretty disturbing image and is not well suited to the established tone of the book.

2. Books about violence should show the actual consequences of using violence, and the image does just that.

I think it was good we saw what happened to the kid,the wife.

It was tragic,sick but interesting to see what Powerplex did to his own family. It made his reaction more real seeing how horrible his family died.

[spawnonfire]

Can someone shed light on why the early issues of Invincible are hard to come by? Obviously it's an excellent book but is that the only reason or were the early issues under produced?

[michaeljsmith]

Can someone shed light on why the early issues of Invincible are hard to come by? Obviously it's an excellent book but is that the only reason or were the early issues under produced?

When Invincible was initially released it was part of Image's new "superhero line of comics". They released Invincible, Firebreather, Tech Jacket, Venture and several more. None of the series released more than 3,000 issues each as they were all testing the market. Invincible is really the only series that took off but the earlier issues were a very low print run.

[HaroldAllnut]

Invincible is really the only series that took off but the earlier issues were a very low print run.

Yeah, I'd heard about that. When did it start picking up in terms of sales? From what I understand, it's currently one of Image's biggest sellers.

[michaeljsmith]

Yeah, I'd heard about that. When did it start picking up in terms of sales? From what I understand, it's currently one of Image's biggest sellers.

I believe it was around issue #7 or #8 that is started a significant upwards climb (around the time of the Omni-Man incident). As far as being one of the biggies for Image that is true, As far as single issues are concerned monthly it is usually #1 The Walking Dead, #2 Spawn, and #3 Invincible. When you look at trade sells The Walking Dead and Invincible lead the pack and are really up there when compared to the big two as well.

[GRANT!]

I believe it was around issue #7 or #8 that is started a significant upwards climb (around the time of the Omni-Man incident). As far as being one of the biggies for Image that is true, As far as single issues are concerned monthly it is usually #1 The Walking Dead, #2 Spawn, and #3 Invincible. When you look at trade sells The Walking Dead and Invincible lead the pack and are really up there when compared to the big two as well.

The book was almost canceled after issue 13 but I think Kirkman and co noticed sales started to get better. I think Ottley coming aboard and the book coming out more regularly was a major factor. But the Omni-Man incident seemed like a key factor as well (glad Kirkman decided not to wait for issue 25 for that reveal).

[spawnonfire]

The book was almost canceled after issue 13 but I think Kirkman and co noticed sales started to get better. I think Ottley coming aboard and the book coming out more regularly was a major factor. But the Omni-Man incident seemed like a key factor as well (glad Kirkman decided not to wait for issue 25 for that reveal).
Yeah Omniman killing the GotG was what really got me in suspense and I just couldn't stop reading from then on.

[Surtur]

So I'm of two minds on this one:1. The toddler getting its brains fried is a pretty disturbing image and is not well suited to the established tone of the book.


As has been said, Invincible has been pretty violent and graphic since the beginning. It never really pulled any punches in terms of violence and gore. The death of the child and mother fits perfectly into the book.


As for the issue itself, enjoyed it. Liked Powerplex and his powerset, being able to absorb any form of energy. The only real ways to fight him are either mental attacks or to simply not fight him at all.

I have to wonder what happened at the end tho, why did Plex stop fighting? Had he run out of energy that quickly? I assume when Mark said he knew how to beat him it was through not doing a thing to him so he had no energy to absorb. I dunno, seemed like he burned out rather fast.

[GRANT!]

Issue 60 came out.

The overall story was good and there some interesting plot developments and even a few notable deaths (one of them was a complete shock). Though I have to admit the big Image Crossover promised was a bit of a letdown. We got to see all the characters though we didn't see much of them (Which Kirkman cops to in the letter col). Still it was a good story and promises some interesting changes for the future.

I did like the Pitt appearance.

[michaeljsmith]

SPOILERS INCLUDED....



The Invincible War came and went and I am speechless. Typically I can write my thoughts about an issue within minutes of finishing it but this time I am at a loss for words. Angstrom is without question one of the most messed up villains I have ever seen. He moved up about ten notches with his motivation and tactics behind this war. So he unleashes about 20 Invincibles from alternate dimensions to destroy the plants and discredit Mark.

The battles were unreal and some of those panels from the fights. Unbelievable - this is some of WYA's best art ever... he nailed just about everything perfect. While this was a whose who of Image characters new and old there was so much of Invincible tied to every single piece of action because he was the villain time and time again.

The Pitt scene - perfect. It gave me chills to see your version of him. Firebreather looked as cool as I have ever seen. Dragon, Youngblood, Spawn, Jack Staff and so many more - Wya you out did yourself sir and should be proud. The whole team including Cliff and FCO are all on point in this issue bringing us a stunningly beautiful piece of art.

The story itself? Robert Kirkman sir - you know this is Invincible and not The Walking Dead right? People think you killed off characters in TWD should wait to see this. Rexplode? Immortal? Darkwing? Monster Girl? Witchblade? (okay you cleared up the Witchblade one http://www.imagecomics.com/messageboard/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif ). Who is still alive? Bulletproof - got it. Seriously as things continued to happen I was in disbelief. To say the status quo has changed would be an understatement. Where do we go from here? Also Mark was willing to kill Angstrom at the end when Oliver told him to do it? I was expecting a morality interjection.

This was truly and event and I must say that I am a little tired from reading this issue... but it is a good tired so don't feel bad for me. I cannot wait to catch my breath and give it another run.

I know I said I am speechless and I honestly believe I am even if I just said a lot. I have more questions than could be expressed at one time. I am really not sure what I just saw but I think Captain Kirkman just kicked this thing up a notch or two and we had all hold on tight because for once I have no clue where you are taking us.

Cheers to Team Invincible you guys rocked this issue 12 different ways.

[I am MODOK]

Loved it. This is best of the week for me for certain.

My review:
http://comicperday.blogspot.com/2009/03/invincible-60.html

[spawnonfire]

Anyone know when the 4th hardcover is coming out? And how ofter do trades come out?

[GRANT!]

There's usually two trades a year. The hardcover is coming out soon according to Ryan Ottley (it should be at or going to the printers). There were some unspecified production problems.

I know getting the monthly issues out on time is taking precedence right now and it's causing some delays with the collections.

[ultramandingo]

.......where were General Tubbs , The Claw, Tom Tom the Robot Man ,Morlan the Mystic or Becky Burdock, Vampire Reporter when Jack Staff needed them ?

[GRANT!]

.......where were General Tubbs , The Claw, Tom Tom the Robot Man ,Morlan the Mystic or Becky Burdock, Vampire Reporter when Jack Staff needed them ?

We barely saw Jack in this issue. So maybe they got their asses handed to them off panel. We didn't see all the Savage Dragon supporting characters either.

I want to know where the next issue of Jack Staff is. That book's schedule drives me insane.

[Kusanagi]

[B]SPOILERS INCLUDED....

People think you killed off characters in TWD should wait to see this. Rexplode? Immortal? Darkwing? Monster Girl? Witchblade? (okay you cleared up the Witchblade one http://www.imagecomics.com/messageboard/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif ).
T.

No way Immortal's dead, he's the immortal it's his thing. He survived Omni Man's assault, and it the future Invincible ripped off his head and admitted he's not really dead. Should someone find his head he should be good to go. Monster Girl's vague enough to make me say she's alive, Darkwing also gets a question mark as it's waaaay to vague. Rex though, oh yeah he's dead.

As for the rest of the issue, wow I mean, I don't think it's possible to write a more epic in scope issue. Really makes me wonder if the other books will acknowledge it in the coming months.

[spawnonfire]

There's usually two trades a year. The hardcover is coming out soon according to Ryan Ottley (it should be at or going to the printers). There were some unspecified production problems.

I know getting the monthly issues out on time is taking precedence right now and it's causing some delays with the collections.
Thanks for the info. It sucks that the hardcover has run into problems but I'm glad that getting the monthly out is put first.

[Seraku]

Rexplode

you shall be missed

[thebhamgunslinger]

This was my first issue of Invincible and all I can say is....wow. This seems like a really fun book that I'll definitely be checking out.

[DeeSnider]

Rexplode

you shall be missed

I think he'll be back. I'm sure he's dead now, but there's already one clone of Rexsplode on the team roster, why not add another?

[RichmanBri]

Finally got around to reading Invincible 60 so I wanted to chime in here.
Now while I did enjoy this issue an awful lot, it was really fun, great action, pretty good story. I think this issue also shows why this can't be done in 1 issue. Marvel and DC overdo crossovers most of the time with 8 main issues, and then countless tie ins. With the Invincible War there was just to much going on to really capture all of the moments. I felt like everything was going waaaay to fast. Perhaps it shouldn't be compared to a Secret Invasion or Final Crisis, but it was advertised as an event all rolled into one issue. And under that format, I think it lost out on some of the chances it had to really deliver a big moment.
Still enjoyable none the less, and the 1 issue is probably still better then a drawn out 8 issue arc.
But couldn't you tell this story in 2 giant sized issues, and allowed people to get a closer look at what was happening, without watering it down?

Side notes... Rexplodes death was one of the moments in this book I really enjoyed, and felt was given it's proper amount of time in the book.
And honestly, you can't trust that anyone is dead, despite what you saw, how many alternate dimensions or possible cloning could there be. There is already a precedent set for those kinds of things in the "Kirkmanverse"

[Toonimator]

I think he'll be back. I'm sure he's dead now, but there's already one clone of Rexsplode on the team roster, why not add another?
Possible... but there's also something I've never seen addressed (but really never researched much, or read all the letter pages after) back when Mark was stuck in that dimension after 'killing' Angstrom: the future Guardians show up, and Robot is addressed as "Rex". We learn not too long after that Robot's created a clone body of Rex to inhabit, but he goes by Rudy. So maybe Rex dying in 60 is setting up for... I dunno, some sorta dovetailing into that future Robot? Like Rudy decides that since he shares Rex's genes, he'll honor his memory with his name? He might not be all that attached to "Rudy" after all, only being able to go by it for a fairly short portion of his life.

Powerful issue, and yes probably too big for one single issue. Yet, I feel, it was more satisfying than a lot of the big crossover "events" of the Big Two. The aftermath (and final body count!) should be interesting. What am I saying, interesting? It's Invincible, it'll continue being great! (surreptitiously knockin' wood)

[ultramandingo]

I want to know where the next issue of Jack Staff is. That book's schedule drives me insane.

........speaking of nutty schedules kirkman shoulda shoehorned Casanova Quinn and Detective Richard Fell in to it - who needs " cyberforce " whatever that was ?!?

[DeeSnider]

Possible... but there's also something I've never seen addressed (but really never researched much, or read all the letter pages after) back when Mark was stuck in that dimension after 'killing' Angstrom: the future Guardians show up, and Robot is addressed as "Rex". We learn not too long after that Robot's created a clone body of Rex to inhabit, but he goes by Rudy. So maybe Rex dying in 60 is setting up for... I dunno, some sorta dovetailing into that future Robot? Like Rudy decides that since he shares Rex's genes, he'll honor his memory with his name? He might not be all that attached to "Rudy" after all, only being able to go by it for a fairly short portion of his life.


That's the exact page I thought of too, and I'm kind of suprised how many people have brought up that single panel from over 20 issues ago in relation to #60. I think that Rex in the robot suit is a non-Rudy future clone of Rex. My guess would be that Rudy feels guilty over Rex sacrificing himself and trys to bring him back to life via cloning. The next Invincible Presents mini-series is supposed to focus on Rex (unless that was a Kirkman red herring), so maybe it will give added reason for that possability.

[trsman2785]

I loved it, though I would also have liked it to be closer to 2 or 3 issues instead of just one. I think this could have been way better. Felt a little rushed.

I will also really miss Rexsplode. He was an awesome character. But I hope he stays dead. I don't like lots of characters coming back to life.

Cant wait to see what the fallout will be.

[GRANT!]

Kind of curious if that Rexsplode mini is still happening. I think it was the same creative team behind Atom Eve.

[GRANT!]

........speaking of nutty schedules kirkman shoulda shoehorned Casanova Quinn and Detective Richard Fell in to it - who needs " cyberforce " whatever that was ?!?

I got a kick out of seeing the old Image characters interact with the new ones. Also aren't Casanova and Fell in sort of their own sort of non superhero universes.

[Kusanagi]

Thinking about it, if this had been 3 issues (one for each day), or 2 giant sized ones, it might have been the best crossover over the past few years IMO. Just a simple, epic, non confusing battle between good and evil done in half the time of your average TPB story in the big two. Still I like it for what it was.

[HaroldAllnut]

This issue, in conjunction with issues 58 and 59, got me excited about Invincible again. Any guesses as to who "Conquest" might be? I think this may be the time that the Viltrumite Empire chooses to strike again.

I got a kick out of seeing the old Image characters interact with the new ones. Also aren't Casanova and Fell in sort of their own sort of non superhero universes.

Yeah, both Casanova and Fell inhabit entirely individual and removed universes, both from each other and from all other Image titles. I think that's the essential policy behind all the Image Slimline books.

According to rumors, Casanova will be coming back with more pages and entirely in color, so I guess it will no longer count as an Image Slimline title, which saddens me greatly; however, I will still continue to collect it, as I have before.

[Toonimator]

That's the exact page I thought of too, and I'm kind of suprised how many people have brought up that single panel from over 20 issues ago in relation to #60. I think that Rex in the robot suit is a non-Rudy future clone of Rex. My guess would be that Rudy feels guilty over Rex sacrificing himself and trys to bring him back to life via cloning. The next Invincible Presents mini-series is supposed to focus on Rex (unless that was a Kirkman red herring), so maybe it will give added reason for that possability.
Oooh, good idea. Rudy could clone Rex (um, again), and manage somehow to give him back his memories and all... but no powers. So Rudy could build him a big Robot suit of his own to make up for it, but that'd still leave the question of where HE was in that future the Guardians came from... maybe it has to do with the next 'phase' of his plan, which hasn't been mentioned in a long time and gave him a new sinister air (which he'd lost after we learned that he was just planning to get a new body rather than do some villainous stuff).

........speaking of nutty schedules kirkman shoulda shoehorned Casanova Quinn and Detective Richard Fell in to it - who needs " cyberforce " whatever that was ?!?
It's Cyberforce! One of the original Image books! Silvestri's first baby before Witchblade came along! It was also the only Image book besides WildCATS that I read back then. They were full of cyborgs and alien hybrids and each had their own ponytailed and big-claw-fingered Wolverine clones, drawn by two artists I enjoyed, so I had to get 'em... for awhile.

[stingerman]

Just getting into this series. Iss 60 was great!

[GRANT!]

It's Cyberforce! One of the original Image books! Silvestri's first baby before Witchblade came along! It was also the only Image book besides WildCATS that I read back then. They were full of cyborgs and alien hybrids and each had their own ponytailed and big-claw-fingered Wolverine clones, drawn by two artists I enjoyed, so I had to get 'em... for awhile.

I dug Cyberforce. Especially when Silvestri drew it. It was blatant X-Men ripoff but it had some fun moments. I really wish the Velocity miniseries came together.

[GRANT!]

This issue, in conjunction with issues 58 and 59, got me excited about Invincible again. Any guesses as to who "Conquest" might be? I think this may be the time that the Viltrumite Empire chooses to strike again.



Yeah, both Casanova and Fell inhabit entirely individual and removed universes, both from each other and from all other Image titles. I think that's the essential policy behind all the Image Slimline books.

According to rumors, Casanova will be coming back with more pages and entirely in color, so I guess it will no longer count as an Image Slimline title, which saddens me greatly; however, I will still continue to collect it, as I have before.

I don't know if that's really a policy for the slimline books or more of a individual choice from the creators.

The reality is there really isn't an Image universe just certain creators are willing to share their creations with one another. Madman for instance has crossed over with several different characters from different companies.

[MythicBrawn]

So, which of the stranded alter-Invincibles is the most hardcore? The ones that killed their universe's Omni-Man has to be at the top of the list. Of course, that goes out the window if they all killed their own father. I feel like the prison Invincible is definitely at the top of the list. It would be interesting to know how he got the scars. Too bad Allen wasn't around. There definitely wouldn't be as many remaining Invincibles.

[Kusanagi]

Anyone else notice Bulletproof lost a good chunk of his arm, there was so much going on it didn't even register, sure enough he's tackling one of the alt Invincibles with a bloody stump. Then helping Invincible take on Levy with blood bandage where his hand was. Subtle yet harcore at the same time.

[ultramandingo]

........yeah kirkman has a thing for bloody stumps

[Xeophen]

Invincible is kinda sorta like spiderman in the since that it's a teenage superhero dealing with normal teenage problems, but that said, its VERY different than spiderman, you kinda have to read it to understand. But overall its well...AMAZING! You should go buy it, and you won't be disappointed, i have read issues 1-47 and i'm ordering 48-59 online and each issue is just great! In general most things by Robert Kirkman is pretty much awesome!

[NimNams]

I miss the old costume. Seeing the yellow on some of the other Invincibles this past issue makes me pine for the first suit.

[JoshuaCee]

I don't miss the yellow at all. I really, really like the blue and black suit. It's very simple, and FCO's choice of blue is very nice.

[mr.brighteyes]

I just read the last 25 issues of invincible yesterday and today and while I admit the series is damn good I do have a few problems with it.

1) The constant reminder of why the different places are significant each time they switch locations like we don't remember the name of the ex girlfriends school or where Mark and his buddy lived or that the base of the guardians of the globe is in a undisclosed location or that Creepy old ex-boss's base is located under the Pentagon.

2) The issues seem to be way too short. I flew through the entire 35 issues in two days. that shouldn't happen.

3) Oliver's coloring is annoying especially when he is in the costume. The colors clash big time.

[guyjo]

I finally started reading Invincible about ten issues ago. It has a nice simplicity to it that reminds me of the good aspects of Silver Age comics.
Issue 60 was incredible, though I wouldn't have minded it being a two-issue deal to give more time to the guest stars. Otherwise it was just great.

[Jimmy'sFriend]

I am not a fan of the blue costume. I can;t stand his little bro's costume!!

[Derrick Fish]

If I had to pick a single favorite regular comic, it would have to be INVINCIBLE. There's no book I look forward to more each month and no book that I'm as regularly pleased beyond my expectations after reading.

The big, "Summer-crossover-in-a-single-issue" event that was issue #60 was amazing, though I dearly wish it were a longer read if only 'cuz I wanted MORE.

[Seraku]

the beginning of the new Wold-Man doesn't even make a little bit of sense, wtf would they target Wolfie and not beat up the guy who actually killed their friend? it's just stupid

anyways another decent issue

[RDMacQ]

Can't wait for the Conquest storyline. Most creators would want to give their heroes a break after something like the Invincible War, but here we are getting thrown right into the Conquest War right afterwards.

[Jimmy'sFriend]

Did anyone else think issue #60 stunk?

[Manchine]

Nope. Jumped around too much but stink, no. It was far from the best kirkman has done. It was still better then most comics out there.

[michaeljsmith]

Did anyone else think issue #60 stunk?

Nope. Jumped around too much but stink, no. It was far from the best kirkman has done. It was still better then most comics out there.

Not for a single second - it was pretty much as good as expected with all of the hype

[Manchine]

Not for a single second - it was pretty much as good as expected with all of the hype

I just think they tried to pack to much stuff in one comic. They could of put this all in 2 or even 3 comics.

[michaeljsmith]

I just think they tried to pack to much stuff in one comic. They could of put this all in 2 or even 3 comics.

While I see what you are saying I think that was part of the beauty of the issue. You knew it was all going to happen in that issue... no waiting. Kirkman did say in the letters section his eyes were bigger than his creative stomach. I still applaud him for pulling it off

[Manchine]

While I see what you are saying I think that was part of the beauty of the issue. You knew it was all going to happen in that issue... no waiting. Kirkman did say in the letters section his eyes were bigger than his creative stomach. I still applaud him for pulling it off

Oh yeah it was good. Don't get me wrong. I just know it could of been better. To much stuff packed all jammed in there.

[Manchine]

Did you notice Bulletproof lost a hand. Wonders how that will come up later.

[The Gunslinger]

Since it look like the whole world got messed up pretty bad, would it be reflected in other image universe comics?

[michaeljsmith]

Since it look like the whole world got messed up pretty bad, would it be reflected in other image universe comics?

No. Each character lives in their own Universe not a common Image Universe. So Invincible is in the Invincible Universe (actually the Kirkmanverse since he ties in with Capes, Inc, Tech Jacket, Brit and Astounding Wolf-Man) and the things that happen here do not need to happen in other universes. It also doesn't mean they can't bleed over to another characters universe. The Savage Dragon you saw in this book is the Kirkmanverse Savage Dragon not the Savage Dragon Universe version. Now it is up to Erik Larsen if he wants his Dragon from his Universe to know of these events or not. It is the best of both worlds. You get crossovers and you don't have to worry about common universe continuity.

[malephoenix]

No. Each character lives in their own Universe not a common Image Universe. So Invincible is in the Invincible Universe (actually the Kirkmanverse since he ties in with Capes, Inc, Tech Jacket, Brit and Astounding Wolf-Man) and the things that happen here do not need to happen in other universes. It also doesn't mean they can't bleed over to another characters universe. The Savage Dragon you saw in this book is the Kirkmanverse Savage Dragon not the Savage Dragon Universe version. Now it is up to Erik Larsen if he wants his Dragon from his Universe to know of these events or not. It is the best of both worlds. You get crossovers and you don't have to worry about common universe continuity.

It's weird, because I really enjoy continuity. It's one of the most important things to me in a story. (When people say "Do you want a good story or do you want continuity?" I'm amazed because some writers and editors apparently think those are mutually exclusive terms, and don't have the talent to actually do both.)

So I should hate the way Image does this stuff.

But when compared to the insane mess of the Big Two, it works out so much better by comparison that I actually appreciate this method.

[michaeljsmith]

The beauty of the Image method is that continuity is protected for the characters that matter to you. I am a fan of Invincible but if he shows up in Savage Dragon and says something out of character I don't have to question the moral fiber of the character. I need to focus on Invincible in the Kirkmanverse books. If I want to see another writer's take on the character I can pick up that book and maybe those events will be cannon and maybe they won't but the beauty is I do not have to stress how it all ties together.

As somebody who has followed Batman for nearly 20 years trust me that can be a nightmare :biggrin:

[Libaax]

I dont care if Kirkman had a 1000 different universes or only one for his current series. A good writer can tell any kind of superhero story.


60 was too much at once but it was still good.

I cant wait to read the next issue and see how the story goes for his messed up world.

[michaeljsmith]

I dont care if Kirkman had a 1000 different universes or only one for his current series. A good writer can tell any kind of superhero story.


60 was too much at once but it was still good.

I cant wait to read the next issue and see how the story goes for his messed up world.

While I agree I do like that Capes, Brit, Tech Jacket, Invincible and ASW all play in the same universe. It adds some of the fun that the BIG TWO offers but with the tighter control of a single book. Jay Faerber does this well in his universe too (Dynamo 5 is a great book that all fans of Invincible should be reading).

I agree issue #60 was aggressive but it was still fun

[Toygeek]

So...did anybody else see the announcement last night that Cory Walker's returning to Invincible for 2 issues?

[michaeljsmith]

So...did anybody else see the announcement last night that Cory Walker's returning to Invincible for 2 issues?

That is what I heard. There has not been much about this but I am sure it will get a lot of traction as the day goes on

[GRANT!]

http://www.imagecomics.com/gallery2/g2data_373ph4nt/albums/news/Inv66Cover.jpg

It's on the Image Website. (http://www.imagecomics.com/index.php)

Cool news. I'm wondering if this will also help Ottley play catch up while he juggles Invincible and Haunt (which was supposed to be solicited for June). duties. Sounds like a good story too.

[malephoenix]

I'm wondering if this will also help Ottley play catch up while he juggles Invincible and Haunt (which was supposed to be solicited for June). duties. Sounds like a good story too.

This probably has something to do with it, whether it's a direct cause or a side-effect.

[ashez2ashes]

Count me in the camp that didn't like issue 60. I was dreading the big crossover "event" and it ended up being even more annoying than I thought it would be. Since the events ended up being so important world ending stuff, I was interested more in the Invincible characters and their reactions, not random crossover characters I don't care about (or even recognize). I read Invincible to get away from that sort of stuff.

I'll give it a another issue to see if my irritation wears off enough...

[Jimmy'sFriend]

What did you guys think of 61?

[Surtur]

My post contains spoilers for 61, so be warned..



I enjoyed 61. Although I would of preferred that Invincible and Powerplex fought longer than they did. So Immortal and Dupli-kate are retiring..can't say I'm gonna miss them. I'd also think it would be a little more interesting if some of the heroes felt the same way as Powerplex, it would add a little bit more drama.

Conquest looks like a cool character, but I think Mark is being pretty stupid in trying to fight him. He's gone up against adult viltruumites before, he knows he can't win, and Conquest has never failed to assimilate a planet, so he's probably stronger than most. He should of just lied and told him he had caused all the destruction that recently occurred, then he'd probably assume Invincible was accepting the role the Viltruumites wanted him to play..and he'd probably just leave.

I mean, Invincible vs Omniman caused a shitload of destruction, and Invincible is feeling guilty over the recent destruction..yet he's going to get into a fight that can cause even more destruction? With various people nearby who are trying to look for bodies or survivors? He should be doing everything he can to avoid another fight like that.

[Andrenn]

I've been reading Invincible since 51 (Only dabbled in the series up to this point, it never held my interest as much as it has recently) and I've really enjoyed it. #59 was fairly meh for me, but 60 and 61 have both been strong reads and I'm really digging this series. Conquest seems like a great villain, even if He'll probably end up dead by the end of the story. I'm hopeful Atom Eve survives but...with Robert Kirkman, it's hard to hope that a character will live for very long when their tied to the main hero. (If he killed of Laurie in TWD there's no way he couldn't kill Eve)

I'm excited to see Cory Walker return. He's an awesome artist.

I've been wanting to pick up the Invincible Ultimate Collections for a while but I'm finally ordering the first one and will be picking up the second one somtime in the summer.

[stingerman]

I agree. I have enjoyed 60 and 61 very much.

I'm basically a new reader. I read the first few issues and just recently got back into this. I am really curious what happened with Omni-man, that he became a super villain!

Which issues please!?

[MythicBrawn]

This Conquest storyline looks to be a good one, not that they all aren't good. This book is amazing. I imagine that Mark is going to get his butt handed to him. It will probably be worse than the beating he took from his dad. A truer match for Conquest, powerwise, is probably Allen. Hopefully, he makes an appearance and puts Conquest in his place.

[KissinDigital]

I agree. I have enjoyed 60 and 61 very much.

I'm basically a new reader. I read the first few issues and just recently got back into this. I am really curious what happened with Omni-man, that he became a super villain!

Which issues please!?
Did you not finish the first arc? Or you did and I'm confused cos I haven't finished 55-61 yet.

I read (devoured) the HC trades 1-3 last summer and started this book on my sub with 51 I think but I JUST got HC 4 so I've been waiting all this time to get caught up.

Not terribly happy with the direction Oliver is headed but I guess it was inevitable. Aaaand I just might drop the sub if Eve is killed. +_+

[ankush]

What I found annoying was the fact that there was a period after issue 51 where invincible and atom eve having foreplay b4 sex and/or their after-sex talk was devoted 1-2 pages which was bloody annoying and totally felt forced. I thought that kirkman was going with the "lets make atom eve pregnant" plot thread. Not sure if it will play out tho.. Btw, in the august solicitation I am pretty sure everyone is mourning for...

SPOILER.... highlight to read
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RexSplode
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and not you know who.

[Dave H]

Conquest part 2 continues this week and wow...what a fight.
Ottley outdoes himself again with the action and most especially the way Conquest is portrayed.

[Darth Logan]

Very good issue. My only complaint was that it read way too quickly and the issue was over before I knew it. But that's kind of a good thing. :tongue:

[GRANT!]

Very good issue. My only complaint was that it read way too quickly and the issue was over before I knew it. But that's kind of a good thing. :tongue:

It reminds me of when Mark went to insect planet and found Nolan. I think the Viltrumite fight spanned like three issues or so.

It really annoyed me at the time but it reads pretty great in the hardcover. It is fun to look back at the scope that Ottley gives those panels though. That boy can draw!

Though there's some cool revelations especially the Re Animen versions of the Alternate Invincibles. Can't wait to see those in action.

[GRANT!]

What I found annoying was the fact that there was a period after issue 51 where invincible and atom eve having foreplay b4 sex and/or their after-sex talk was devoted 1-2 pages which was bloody annoying and totally felt forced. I thought that kirkman was going with the "lets make atom eve pregnant" plot thread. Not sure if it will play out tho.. Btw, in the august solicitation I am pretty sure everyone is mourning for...

SPOILER.... highlight to read
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RexSplode
.
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and not you know who.

It's interesting in the letter page to learn that we're getting a RexSplode and Atom Eve miniseries later this year. Be weird to do that if both characters are dead y'know? Even if it's a flashback.

There's obviously something else planned.

[Surtur]

So Invincible is getting beaten down by Conquest. The fight was brutal, but again how stupid is Mark if he willingly gets into another fight with someone stronger than him, destroying countless buildings in the process. This mere days after evil versions of him wrecked the shit out of most of the planet, and there were rescue crews around the scene of the fight.

So now Cecil is messing around with the other versions of Invincible to try and make them his soldiers..but it's sort of silly to me for him to be freaking out over the fight because Conquest is so strong. All the teams of heroes that fought the Invincibles..some held their own or even killed a couple. So one would think all those people plus Invincible would be more than enough to fight off Conquest, or at least get him to leave.

[MythicBrawn]

Cecil is thinking about the bigger picture. He does not want to lose anymore heroes. The world is already in a bad state and the last thing he wants is for more heroes, particularly Invincible, to die fighting off a Vultrimite. And, many of them would die fighting off Conquest. I've said it before, but I think the only true match for Conquest is Allen. Nolan would put up a good fight, but Conquest would ultimately win. Mark is out of his league and should have been trying to use his brains instead of his inferior brawn.

I feel that something Vultrimite-related is going to happen to Mark because of his interaction with Conquest. Conquest seems to be pushing Mark to accept/manifest his full Vultrimite heritage/genetics. Nolan alluded to something early on in the series and this could be it. It's something we haven't seen about Vultrimites and Kirkman may be on the verge of revealing it. Or, I could be crazy and I'm reading more into it than I should.

[Dave H]

Cecil is thinking about the bigger picture. He does not want to lose anymore heroes. The world is already in a bad state and the last thing he wants is for more heroes, particularly Invincible, to die fighting off a Vultrimite. And, many of them would die fighting off Conquest. I've said it before, but I think the only true match for Conquest is Allen. Nolan would put up a good fight, but Conquest would ultimately win. Mark is out of his league and should have been trying to use his brains instead of his inferior brawn.

I feel that something Vultrimite-related is going to happen to Mark because of his interaction with Conquest. Conquest seems to be pushing Mark to accept/manifest his full Vultrimite heritage/genetics. Nolan alluded to something early on in the series and this could be it. It's something we haven't seen about Vultrimites and Kirkman may be on the verge of revealing it. Or, I could be crazy and I'm reading more into it than I should.

Kirkman has said that what Nolan was referring to earlier, but never got to finish saying in the series was "exercise".

[Libaax]

Im just enjoying the fight. Kirkman said in the letters collumn it will be the biggest so far and Conquest is a character that will be important.


I do miss Allan. Where the heck did he go.....

[GRANT!]

Im just enjoying the fight. Kirkman said in the letters collumn it will be the biggest so far and Conquest is a character that will be important.


I do miss Allan. Where the heck did he go.....

He's going to be back in issues 66 and 67 (drawn by Cory Walker).

[Libaax]

Cory Walker ? Allen ?

Thats pure awesome :)

[PsychoGoatee]

It'll be fun to see some new Cory art in Invincible. He drew Omni-Man's mustache especially fantastically. :cool:

[Batman-Mullan]

Very excited about conquest!! can not wait to see how far he pushes mark

[IMJ]

It'll be fun to see some new Cory art in Invincible. He drew Omni-Man's mustache especially fantastically. :cool:

LOL! Hey - don't pass up a compliment regarding attention to detail where you can! :tongue: