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Hieu Le Bui
11-15-2007, 06:08 PM
Here's an awsome teaser video of The Forbidden Kingdom (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0865556/) that just popped up on the web through Youtube but you can download the quicktime video here (http://www.mediafire.com/?8le1c1m13mb)

IamtheRock3
11-15-2007, 06:38 PM
pretty nice

but dang seem Li kept his speed a heck of a lot more then Jackie

Xero Kaiser
11-16-2007, 04:08 AM
Someone in this movie looks horribly out of place

Hieu Le Bui
11-16-2007, 04:05 PM
Someone in this movie looks horribly out of place

who cares, I'm really anxious to see this movie however corny it is.:D

StoneGold
11-16-2007, 04:15 PM
pretty nice

but dang seem Li kept his speed a heck of a lot more then Jackie

What do you expect, the only thing that keeps the man ambulatory is sheer willpower. And the drugs.


So much for Jet retiring from Wuxia flicks though.

Vasco
11-16-2007, 09:43 PM
Here's an awsome teaser video of The Forbidden Kingdom (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0865556/) that just popped up on the web through Youtube but you can download the quicktime video here (http://www.mediafire.com/?8le1c1m13mb)

Hey, hit the link but the QT file wasn't there. Do you have a different url? I'd love to see a better copy of this.

Armless Penguin
11-16-2007, 10:36 PM
Someone in this movie looks horribly out of place

Now he knows what it's like to be the only one in the room.

</Far From Heaven>

Aside from that, it looks like it'll at least be an enjoyable wuxia extravaganza. And for that it gets my ++.

marshal99
11-16-2007, 10:37 PM
This is kind of hilarious , this is a US movie trying to emulate those popular wire-fu asian wuxia movies. :D

Hieu Le Bui
12-20-2007, 07:00 AM
better quailty files here

Mediafile (http://www.mediafire.com/?ftiraldzdfm) Download QuickTime ...21Mb
Stage6 (http://video.stage6.com/1864260/.divx) Divx...17Mb

Cleric of Hell's Brigade
12-20-2007, 11:56 AM
Chan's also 10 years Li's elder.


Anyways, here is a Youtube link to it.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hE7ny2bfXF0

shades of eternity
04-19-2008, 09:41 AM
if so how was it?

did jet and jackie get their revenge?

EZMOHR
04-19-2008, 10:46 AM
I haven't seen it yet, but one of my guys arrested two guys in a car last night who saw it. Both of them were of Asian descent. One said it was a really awesome good movie. The other stated, and I quote, "It is the most offensive movie ever made about, and by, Asian people. Blackface is no longer the worst stereotype on earth." I shit you not, that is exactly what the guy said.

ultramandingo
04-19-2008, 11:41 AM
...... perp movie reviews ! kinda like "cops" meets "sneak previews ". you shoud work on that -
Hark Tsui shoulda done this movie - about 15 years ago , not the guy who directed Stuart Little 2 .

EZMOHR
04-19-2008, 11:49 AM
It was one of the funnier moments of my law enforcment career in the last year. Two guys just arrested, and then they start arguing about the movie. I just sat there and laughed.

Seriously though, I wouldn't watch this movie if I got in for free, popcorn was bought for me, and Kristen Bell was ordered to sit on my lap. This looks like suck on a stick.

DWEarhart
04-19-2008, 02:53 PM
Here's what I don't get: You got Jet Li AND Jackie Chan in a film where China is in jeapordy, and it's up to the American middle class White kid to save the day.

Uh-------huh.

If it's a good movie, then, it's a good movie. If it isn't, then, it isn't.

Jared
04-19-2008, 03:55 PM
I haven't seen it yet, but one of my guys arrested two guys in a car last night who saw it. Both of them were of Asian descent. One said it was a really awesome good movie. The other stated, and I quote, "It is the most offensive movie ever made about, and by, Asian people. Blackface is no longer the worst stereotype on earth." I shit you not, that is exactly what the guy said.


The only thing that could possibly make that story better if if they started kung fu fighting when they got out of the car.

nervmeister
04-19-2008, 04:01 PM
The other stated, and I quote, "It is the most offensive movie ever made about, and by, Asian people. Blackface is no longer the worst stereotype on earth." I shit you not, that is exactly what the guy said.Lemme guess. Jet and Jackie ate a whole petting zoo of dogs and cats before driving really slow-like to the evil stronghold and using their tiny peckers to pick the lock to the princess's cell? :confused:

EDIT: And the princess rewards them by giving them the much needed money to open a nail salon?

EZMOHR
04-19-2008, 04:23 PM
Lemme guess. Jet and Jackie ate a whole petting zoo of dogs and cats before driving really slow-like to the evil stronghold and using their tiny peckers to pick the lock to the princess's cell? :confused:

EDIT: And the princess rewards them by giving them the much needed money to open a nail salon?

I couldn't even ask....I was laughing so hard, but I guess they were hanging ducks from their windows though.

Legato
04-19-2008, 04:31 PM
Here's what I don't get: You got Jet Li AND Jackie Chan in a film where China is in jeapordy, and it's up to the American middle class White kid to save the day.

Uh-------huh.

If it's a good movie, then, it's a good movie. If it isn't, then, it isn't.

That is the problem I have with this movie. Here you have a movie that could just as easily be centered around Jackie Chan and Jet Li's characters yet Hollywood decides to throw in an American in thare just for kicks.

If it was just Chan and Li then it could have been atleast a decent movie.

nervmeister
04-19-2008, 04:33 PM
That is the problem I have with this movie. Here you have a movie that could just as easily be centered around Jackie Chan and Jet Li's characters yet Hollywood decides to throw in an American in thare just for kicks.

If it was just Chan and Li then it could have been atleast a decent movie.Are you mad? That's like saying The Last Samurai would be decent without Tom Cruise! :mad:

Robotech Master
04-19-2008, 05:50 PM
A lot of you guys seem to be talking smack about the movie just based on lame hearsay. I saw the movie and thought it was quite entertaining. Would it have been a better movie without the white guy; probably, but nonetheless the movie was very entertaining, had plenty of comedy as well as action, and we even get to see Jet Li as Sun Wukong in the film.

Kid Kamikaze10
04-19-2008, 08:28 PM
A lot of you guys seem to be talking smack about the movie just based on lame hearsay. I saw the movie and thought it was quite entertaining. Would it have been a better movie without the white guy; probably, but nonetheless the movie was very entertaining, had plenty of comedy as well as action, and we even get to see Jet Li as Sun Wukong in the film.

Plus, the white guy isn't that much of a plot device in the movie. He gets his a$$ kicked constantly, and isn't even the one who really saves the day. It's not like he completely takes over the screen time.


I really liked this movie. Really liked it.

The Punished
04-19-2008, 08:32 PM
This was a great movie. I enjoyed it start to finish & was enthralled with the movie completely!

EZMOHR
04-19-2008, 09:00 PM
I'm glad people enjoyed it. I personally think Jet Li is one one of the worst things to ever happen to film, and I don't typically watch what I consider to be a poor man's Steven Segal. Sorry, I know lots of Jet Li fans out there, but the guy is just awful in my book. Truly a rung below Don "The Dragon" Wilson, or Michael Dudikoff, or even Billy Blanks.

Plus, I still love the guys being arrested bickering about the social ramifications of The Forbidden Kingdom. Truly, the only memorable thing that will ever come from this movie for me.

Legato
04-19-2008, 09:05 PM
Well everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Regardless of how questionable their opinion is.

hugh45
04-19-2008, 10:59 PM
Here's another vote for the movie.At first when they opened the scene in
modern times,I said to myself *&*&*$,but it turned out to be a very funny
action movie ( and yes the white-boy does get the crap beat out of him).
He really doesn't save the day either.

ultramandingo
04-20-2008, 11:27 AM
I personally think Jet Li is one one of the worst things to ever happen to film, and I don't typically watch what I consider to be a poor man's Steven Segal. Sorry, I know lots of Jet Li fans out there, but the guy is just awful in my book. Truly a rung below Don "The Dragon" Wilson, or Michael Dudikoff, or even Billy Blanks.
.
............thats crazy talk - sure Li's ( and Chans) hollywood stuff blows but
Hero , Fist of Legend , Fong Sai Yuk , Swordsman II , Once Upon a Time in China ?!? - and im pretty Steven Segal is allready the poor man's Steven Segal

EZMOHR
04-20-2008, 11:51 AM
............thats crazy talk - sure Li's ( and Chans) hollywood stuff blows but
Hero , Fist of Legend , Fong Sai Yuk , Swordsman II , Once Upon a Time in China ?!? - and im pretty Steven Segal is allready the poor man's Steven Segal

Even things you have mentioned above are just awful. I think it is Jet Li's cold, dead eyes, and inability to act that puts me off. The guy is just awful in my book.

I find Chan entertaining. His films are fun to watch. Li, just awful. Can call it questionable, or not....I just don't like Li. The guy is awful. I would rather watch a cruddy Michael Dudikoff or Don Wilson movie than a "classy" Li one.

Royal
04-20-2008, 12:53 PM
I can understand the Li dislike, but c'mon. He's not "Sasha Mitchell" bad.

Legato
04-20-2008, 01:00 PM
I can understand the Li dislike, but c'mon. He's not "Sasha Mitchell" bad.

He probably believes he is. I mean everyone has their opinions but c'mon.

EZMOHR
04-20-2008, 01:10 PM
Sasch Mitchell is just bad. I mean, Cody from "Step by Step." I mean he doesn't have the souless dead eye stare that Li has, and actually can show more than one emotion (not much), but hey, I guess Li might be better than wife beating, crack smoking Sasha Mitchell. Maybe.

Well, okay I would probablly like Step by Step better than anything Li has ever been in.........

As for my hate for Li.....I would rather watch the 3 Ninjas Knuckle Up or Escape Cyber Mtn, or do anything, more than anything Jet Li has done. 3 Ninjas. Hell you can throw in that Ted Jan Roberts, Magic Kid, Karate dude. Totally rather watch him than anything Jet Li has been in.

Legato
04-20-2008, 01:17 PM
Sasch Mitchell is just bad. I mean, Cody from "Step by Step." I mean he doesn't have the souless dead eye stare that Li has, and actually can show more than one emotion (not much), but hey, I guess Li might be better than wife beating, crack smoking Sasha Mitchell. Maybe.

Well, okay I would probablly like Step by Step better than anything Li has ever been in.........

As for my hate for Li.....I would rather watch the 3 Ninjas Knuckle Up or Escape Cyber Mtn, or do anything, more than anything Jet Li has done. 3 Ninjas. Hell you can throw in that Ted Jan Roberts, Magic Kid, Karate dude. Totally rather watch him than anything Jet Li has been in.


Whatever floats your boat.

nervmeister
04-20-2008, 07:11 PM
As for my hate for Li.....I would rather watch the 3 Ninjas Knuckle Up or Escape Cyber Mtn, or do anything, more than anything Jet Li has done. 3 Ninjas. Hell you can throw in that Ted Jan Roberts, Magic Kid, Karate dude. Totally rather watch him than anything Jet Li has been in.Why such hate for Jet Li? Is it because you know he'd make a better cop than you?

Legato
04-20-2008, 07:32 PM
Why such hate for Jet Li? Is it because you know he'd make a better cop than you?

Now, now regardless of his opinions lets not get personal. I mean he did atleast respect that other people like Li's films.

nervmeister
04-20-2008, 07:51 PM
Now, now regardless of his opinions lets not get personal. I mean he did atleast respect that other people like Li's films.Seriously though, I don't know why he hates Jet Li.

EZMOHR
04-20-2008, 07:53 PM
Why such hate for Jet Li? Is it because you know he'd make a better cop than you?

I think I don't like Li because he's a bad actor that is in unenjoyable movies for me.

Hell, I hope the guy would be a better cop than me. Isn't he a like 1000th Degree Black Belt in some sort of Martial Art that looks like the rest of martial arts.

Maybe if Li is going to continue to make a living as an actor, he might want to mix in an acting lesson here or there.

DaeJi
04-20-2008, 08:19 PM
People inject too much politics into stuff. I loved this movie; it's just fun. Jackie Chan was as funny as ever, and Li was great (especially as the Monkey King). The America kid didn't hurt the movie at all. I highly recommend it.

nervmeister
04-20-2008, 08:30 PM
I think I don't like Li because he's a bad actor that is in unenjoyable movies for me.

Hell, I hope the guy would be a better cop than me. Isn't he a like 1000th Degree Black Belt in some sort of Martial Art that looks like the rest of martial arts.

Maybe if Li is going to continue to make a living as an actor, he might want to mix in an acting lesson here or there.Oh, NOW I see. You love good acting. And Jet Li makes a mockery of that love by blandly acting with the same near-emotionless personality in almost every film he's in. But wait, shouldn't that be Steven Seagal's shtick?

Legato
04-20-2008, 08:32 PM
Oh, NOW I see. You love good acting. And Jet Li makes a mockery of that love by blandly acting with the same near-emotionless personality in almost every film he's in. But wait, shouldn't that be Steven Seagal's shtick?

Also Don Wilson acts like he is playing the same character in the majority of his movies.

EZMOHR
04-20-2008, 08:36 PM
Oh, NOW I see. You love good acting. And Jet Li makes a mockery of that love by blandly acting with the same near-emotionless personality in almost every film he's in. But wait, shouldn't that be Steven Seagal's shtick?

I didn't say I love good acting or bad acting. I like Steven Segal movies cause there is a funny crappy thing going on there. Same with the other crap actors I listed. There is almost an enjoyable tounge in cheek thing going on, or hell, they might just be enjoyable on a USA UP ALL NIGHT wavelength.

Jet Li can't even do that. His movies have no sense of humor, drama, anything. It has Jet Li's same souless dead eyes staring at you for 90 minutes, sucking the life out of the audience and the movie.

I like movies I enjoy for a number of different reasons. Jet Li doesn't make or act in those movies. Jet Li is awful in any language in my book. He might be the coolest guy on earth, but he makes crap that I don't like.

Stephen Segal might be the uber-chode, but at least I've enjoyed a movie he's been in before.

And I don't think Jet Li would trade in his day job to be a cop. Not as much money or actual call to beat the shit out of people on a constant basis.

EZMOHR
04-20-2008, 08:37 PM
Also Don Wilson acts like he is playing the same character in the majority of his movies.

But, I can actually say there is a Don Wilson movie out there I enjoyed.

nervmeister
04-20-2008, 08:41 PM
And I don't think Jet Li would trade in his day job to be a cop. Not as much money or actual call to beat the shit out of people on a constant basis.I'm pretty sure he wouldn't. And I realized just now that what I said before about that was a bit cruel to say regardless of how I didn't intend for it to be. Sorry about that.

Sean Whitmore
04-20-2008, 11:25 PM
Here's what I don't get: You got Jet Li AND Jackie Chan in a film where China is in jeapordy, and it's up to the American middle class White kid to save the day.

I love that they seem to be leaving the white kid out of the TV commercials and bus ads. Some marketing guy desperately thinking, "If we're lucky, maybe people will forget they ever saw him in the theatrical trailer."


SEAN

Legato
04-20-2008, 11:59 PM
I love that they seem to be leaving the white kid out of the TV commercials and bus ads. Some marketing guy desperately thinking, "If we're lucky, maybe people will forget they ever saw him in the theatrical trailer."


SEAN

Im curious as to how it did at the box office. Did it flop or what?

EZMOHR
04-21-2008, 12:27 AM
Im curious as to how it did at the box office. Did it flop or what?

Nope, #1 at the Box Office.

ForeverTaskmaster
04-21-2008, 01:14 AM
Sasch Mitchell is just bad. I mean, Cody from "Step by Step." I mean he doesn't have the souless dead eye stare that Li has, and actually can show more than one emotion (not much), but hey, I guess Li might be better than wife beating, crack smoking Sasha Mitchell. Maybe.

Well, okay I would probablly like Step by Step better than anything Li has ever been in.........

As for my hate for Li.....I would rather watch the 3 Ninjas Knuckle Up or Escape Cyber Mtn, or do anything, more than anything Jet Li has done. 3 Ninjas. Hell you can throw in that Ted Jan Roberts, Magic Kid, Karate dude. Totally rather watch him than anything Jet Li has been in.
Everyone is entitled to his opinion, but wooaaa,
mentioning Ted Jan Roberts is a blow below the belt. Jet Li should at least get a little bit of credit. Next thing you are gonna tell me is you would rather watch Gymkata than a Jet Li movie.

EZMOHR
04-21-2008, 01:57 AM
Everyone is entitled to his opinion, but wooaaa,
mentioning Ted Jan Roberts is a blow below the belt. Jet Li should at least get a little bit of credit. Next thing you are gonna tell me is you would rather watch Gymkata than a Jet Li movie.

a.) Gymkata?
b.) Ted Jan Roberts in Magic Kid isn't exactly an awful movie. Jeez, that was hard to say. But, I actually watched and finished Magic Kid. Yikes. :frown:

EZMOHR
04-21-2008, 02:04 AM
Okay, just looked up Gymkata....that movie looks AWESOME. Hell, throw in either

a.) Good actors, good production value, and a good script without Gymnastic Karate, and it would be a kick ass movie or

b.) Seth Rogen, Paul Rudd, McLovin, John C. Reilly, keep the story exactly the same, with a Judd Apatow script, and you would have GOLD as well.

ultramandingo
04-21-2008, 08:40 AM
April 18 - April 20
1/0 The Forbidden Kingdom $20.9/$20.9
.........get ready for Forbiddener Kingdom 2 - with a Vengance!

Kirayoshi
04-21-2008, 09:29 AM
People inject too much politics into stuff. I loved this movie; it's just fun. Jackie Chan was as funny as ever, and Li was great (especially as the Monkey King). The America kid didn't hurt the movie at all. I highly recommend it.Agreed. If you're expecting the next Hero or House of Flying Daggers you may be disappointed, but this movie doesn't pretend to be that kind of film. It wasn't high art, but it was fun. And even considering that Chan and Li aren't in their prime anymore, they still had the moves. Their one fight together alone was worth admission. Add the assorted fights with numerous soldiers plus the Bride with White Hair wannabe, not to mention Jackie Chan in Drunken Master mode and Jet Li making one handsome Monkey King, and you have a fun night at the movies.

drwho
04-21-2008, 05:17 PM
This movie was entertaining, but somewhat of a let down to me. The old guy gets bullied sent to alternate dimension and comes back and kicks bullies butt plot. MEH!! Could have been so much more.

desanth
04-22-2008, 12:18 PM
It was fun, that's all I can say favoring it. If you look at the plot and dialogue, its pretty weak, but I only went to see it for Jackie and Jet Li in the same movie. :tongue:

I really don't get why the Monkey King threw his staff away instead of taking it and kicking butt in the beginning. Plus I didn't know the movie was supposed to be about a white kid. I agree with whoever posted that the advertisers nudged that out of advertisements.

Pól Rua
04-22-2008, 07:46 PM
That is the problem I have with this movie. Here you have a movie that could just as easily be centered around Jackie Chan and Jet Li's characters yet Hollywood decides to throw in an American in thare just for kicks.

If it was just Chan and Li then it could have been atleast a decent movie.

Are you mad? That's like saying The Last Samurai would be decent without Tom Cruise! :mad:

Needs more 'Magic Whitey'.

7teen
04-23-2008, 06:40 PM
All the post is making me want to watch the movie even more. When you watch this type of movie, you don't have to expect an Oscar performance perse... i guess westerners view asian movies differently. even jacky chan admitted that he didn't like Rush Hour in an interview in a British news channel.

There's no point in making a comparison with other people if you're close minded. be that as it may, i'm going to enjoy watching this movie...

ultramandingo
04-23-2008, 07:44 PM
even jacky chan admitted that he didn't like Rush Hour in an interview in a British news channel.

.........that make two of us . i blame the british for giving hong kong back to china and screwing up hong kong cinema . they also get the blame for shipping off all the no fun having puritain wackos to america . shoulda sent us the convicts - let australlia have the pilgrims

Jazzy Jay
04-24-2008, 09:31 PM
Are you mad? That's like saying The Last Samurai would be decent without Tom Cruise! :mad:

Well, it still wouldn't have been that great, but it would have been a lot better.

Same goes for Forbidden Kingdom. Even without the lame white kid, it would still be pretty bad, but i definitely would have enjoyed it more.

Crimson King
04-26-2008, 06:20 PM
Movie was pretty good. Has some elements of wuxia movies in it too (not enough though).

And Liu Yifei is hot in the movie.

Legato
04-26-2008, 07:23 PM
I must say that was the most I ever enjoyed out of a Chan and Li movie. It felt good to see Chan using Drunken Boxing again.

While I hate 'Magic Whitey' type of movies the white kid in The Forbidden Kingdom was actually likeable. They didn't Mary Sue him, he pretty much got his ass kicked in the majority of the movie.

Cyke
04-27-2008, 10:05 AM
While I hate 'Magic Whitey' type of movies the white kid in The Forbidden Kingdom was actually likeable. They didn't Mary Sue him, he pretty much got his ass kicked in the majority of the movie.

His one saving grace :)

I would've liked it if the kid wasn't the center. I've no problems with him being from the 21st century. If he was a first-hand observer taking a back seat to everything, that'd be interesting. We'd get more of his wit and his reactions, and maybe even have him as a narrator in the grand Chinese tradition, but Chan and Li would be doing all the grunt work.

But you're right, he wasn't Mary Sue'd, and I think that fact has to be a touch appreciated. Still, Magic Whitey does still apply. It's the Karate Kid syndrome, where a few days of training trumps the years and years of training the common grunts have had.

Pro
04-27-2008, 10:47 AM
a poor man's Steven Segal.

How poor is less than zero?

Legato
04-27-2008, 11:15 AM
His one saving grace :)

I would've liked it if the kid wasn't the center. I've no problems with him being from the 21st century. If he was a first-hand observer taking a back seat to everything, that'd be interesting. We'd get more of his wit and his reactions, and maybe even have him as a narrator in the grand Chinese tradition, but Chan and Li would be doing all the grunt work.

But you're right, he wasn't Mary Sue'd, and I think that fact has to be a touch appreciated. Still, Magic Whitey does still apply. It's the Karate Kid syndrome, where a few days of training trumps the years and years of training the common grunts have had.

I do hate it when a guy with no fighting experience would magically defeat a top seasoned fighter with little trouble at all. That is most of the reasons why Im not too fond of Last Samurai. Yeah Tom Cruise had sword training but he defeated those ninja assassains like they were nothing.

Foridden Kingdom seemed to handle it well to whare the white kid didn't really start kicking ass until the end of the movie.

When he was fighting that White-Haired Assassin chick I was expecting him to somehow defeat her in combat but with the Jade Warlord being a dick and all he would go back on his promise and attempt to kill the white guy.

I liked that it didn't go that way. For one thing that lady he was fighting looked like she is a more seasoned fighter than he is and it would have been ridiculous for him to defeat her, even if the defeat was due to his dumb luck.

Cyke
04-27-2008, 12:15 PM
I do hate it when a guy with no fighting experience would magically defeat a top seasoned fighter with little trouble at all. That is most of the reasons why Im not too fond of Last Samurai. Yeah Tom Cruise had sword training but he defeated those ninja assassains like they were nothing.

Foridden Kingdom seemed to handle it well to whare the white kid didn't really start kicking ass until the end of the movie.

When he was fighting that White-Haired Assassin chick I was expecting him to somehow defeat her in combat but with the Jade Warlord being a dick and all he would go back on his promise and attempt to kill the white guy.

I liked that it didn't go that way. For one thing that lady he was fighting looked like she is a more seasoned fighter than he is and it would have been ridiculous for him to defeat her, even if the defeat was due to his dumb luck.

Oh, yes, you're right. That fight made absolute sense, especially with the smiles that showed she was outright playing with him (if you had that much power and skill, then why not?). That was one of the more enjoyable beatings in the movie.

Then again, that fight brings me to another complaint about the final battle: Sparrow should've seen that fight all the way through. Having Assassin Chick fight Jackie seemed below Jackie, while robbing Sparrow of a true end to the rivalry.

Legato
04-27-2008, 12:31 PM
Oh, yes, you're right. That fight made absolute sense, especially with the smiles that showed she was outright playing with him (if you had that much power and skill, then why not?). That was one of the more enjoyable beatings in the movie.

Then again, that fight brings me to another complaint about the final battle: Sparrow should've seen that fight all the way through. Having Assassin Chick fight Jackie seemed below Jackie, while robbing Sparrow of a true end to the rivalry.

I understand whare your coming from yet here is how I see it.

Sparrow while a good fighter isn't as good of a fighter as Chan or Li in the movie. Also The White Haired Assassin was like The Jade Warlord's best fighter, while it was close between Sparrow and the Assassin the assassin would have won that fight anyway.

Sparrow isn't as inexperienced as the white guy but IMO she isn't good enough to defeat the Assassain. Chan was the right person to do it, especially considering that the Assassain almost killed him with the arrow. He had the experience and he had the cunning to kill her.

The White-Haired Lady would have used Sparrow's emotions against her to try to have her loose her focus and screw up in the fight.

Cyke
04-27-2008, 12:43 PM
I understand whare your coming from yet here is how I see it.

Sparrow while a good fighter isn't as good of a fighter as Chan or Li in the movie. Also The White Haired Assassin was like The Jade Warlord's best fighter, while it was close between Sparrow and the Assassin the assassin would have won that fight anyway.

Sparrow isn't as inexperienced as the white guy but IMO she isn't good enough to defeat the Assassain. Chan was the right person to do it, especially considering that the Assassain almost killed him with the arrow. He had the experience and he had the cunning to kill her.

The White-Haired Lady would have used Sparrow's emotions against her to try to have her loose her focus and screw up in the fight.

Good points all around. I would think that, with those things considered, had this been a more traditional Wushu movie, then Sparrow would've seen this rivalry through, but then might have died as a result of losing to her. Such twists were never beyond the realm of Wushu cinema.

Then again, nobody denies that this is a lite version, and there's anything wrong with that per se. So, sure, Sparrow has to be spared Assassin Chick's wrath. I just think that it would've been a bit more poetic, and maybe more expected given the hype, to see Jackie freed up to join Silent Monk Jet Li in battling the Big Bad together.

I suppose that's my big stick for a final battle. The Assassin Vs. Jackie fight seemed to make the action uneven. Don't get me wrong, the choreography was topnotch, but you knew Jackie would win that battle. As opposed to the other major fight going on, in which the viewer outright sees Silent Monk Jet getting his butt handed to him on a silver platter. One fight had great tension, the other seemed, at least to me, a tad out of place.

Sabrina_Fried
04-27-2008, 02:38 PM
Just got back from the theatre.

On the one hand, I thought it was a fun little wuxia film. Lots of strings, lots of wierd and improbable wigs, actors who should really stick to Mandarin and leave the English to voice overs that will be poorly dubbed. But I very much feel that this movie is a Disney attempt to recreate a Hong Kong wuxia movie.

Personally I think the movie would have been better off without Magic Whitey. His sole purpose in the film seemed to be either to get beaten up for the amusement of the audience, or else to gripe about how hard it is to learn Kung Fu and then gape in awe at the abilities of pretty much every other character in the film to use Kung fu (mostly to beat him up for the amusement of the audience).

Not that I wasn't laughing myself silly during the obligatory "training montage" when Jet Li and Jackie Chan were arguing over how best to torment...er...teach him.

Sabrina

hugh45
04-27-2008, 03:29 PM
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Not that I wasn't laughing myself silly during the obligatory "training montage" when Jet Li and Jackie Chan were arguing over how best to torment...er...teach him.

Sabrina

I thought that was the most funniest scene of the movie. :biggrin:

Crimson King
04-27-2008, 03:37 PM
I thought that was the most funniest scene of the movie. :biggrin:

The "rain" part was funnier.

hugh45
04-27-2008, 03:45 PM
The "rain" part was funnier.

Oh, YES!! That was really funny. :biggrin: :biggrin: LOL!

Sabrina_Fried
04-27-2008, 06:17 PM
I didn't find the "rain" part very funny....it felt like they had to reach too far for a laugh. Though I liked the part at the beginning where the kid starts talking about all the crazy Kung Fu moves he wants to learn, and IIRC most of the ones he listed were from either Jet Li or Jackie Chan movies (not hard to do, I know)

Sabrina

ForeverTaskmaster
05-20-2008, 01:30 AM
I finally saw the movie. Before I watched the movie I was like :"Can Jackie and Jet deliver ? This should have been made 10 years ago. I hope it's not a Disney style movie, because I loathe Disney." I thought it was awesome. The kid was not too annoying and got his a** kicked enough times. Jackie and Jet delivered much much better than expected. I laughed out loud a few times (the training was so funny). The White-haired assassin chick was bad a**. And the best thing of them all is that it sure as hell wasn't a Disney style movie but one adventurous ride.
And you gotta love the Jackie Chan and Jet Li English.