Captain Marvel #1 *Spoilers*

[drwho]

This issue shows some scenes during Civil War where other heroes have a wtf is that Captain Marvel moment and then he flies off. The art on this issue was top notch. This is basically a set up issue that is introducing the main players. Captain Marvel is shown to have a decent personality in this. He is slightly disappointed that he is reminding others how he died of cancer and not by having a warrior type death. An interesting scene between a Shield agent and tony stark in the mind scape. The Shield Agent is told to put tabs on Captain Marvel and persuade him not to get himself killed before returning to the past. One part of the plot I didn't like is they seem to be introducing a Captain Marvel based cult and it appears to be following the whole religious zealot theme. Other than that I would still recommend this mini at this point. Reed does a decent job here.

[CMBMOOL]

An interesting scene between a Shield agent and tony stark in the mind scape. The Shield Agent is told to put tabs on Captain Marvel and persuade him not to get himself killed before returning to the past.

Yeah, We don't want Tony to screw up time even though he screwed up the lives of those around him. :(

[Dpool]

Hmm prob gunna pick this one up and more reviews would be helpful

[DaeJi]

Yeah, We don't want Tony to screw up time even though he screwed up the lives of those around him. :(

Yeah, making sure a man stays alive so that he can return to his proper time and not completely screw up the time line is such a dickish move, bad Tony, BAD!

Anyway, sounds interesting, and I look forward to seeing him deal with his less than glorious death.

[Van Custo]

hehe @ the sentry comment

i wonder how something like that would've went

[Dpool]

What should I have read prior to this series, I think I got my hands on just about everything that had to do with civil war but I'm not remembering him too much.

[drwho]

He didn't appear much in the civil war mini and the first issue pretty much brings you up to speed of who he is and where he is at now.

[Dpool]

He didn't appear much in the civil war mini and the first issue pretty much brings you up to speed of who he is and where he is at now.

Just wiki'd the rest of the info is the graphic novel worth the buy?

[drwho]

Just wiki'd the rest of the info is the graphic novel worth the buy?

Only Captain Marvel stuff featuring Mar-vell that I would recommend be bought be the Death of Captain Marvel graphic novel. His original series had some good runs mixed with not good ones and I'm not sure what has been released in graphic novels for him.

[werewolf1972]

Only Captain Marvel stuff featuring Mar-vell that I would recommend be bought be the Death of Captain Marvel graphic novel. His original series had some good runs mixed with not good ones and I'm not sure what has been released in graphic novels for him.

I believe the only trades for Mar-Vell are "The Life of Captain Marvel", which reprints the Starlin issues (#25-34), and then "The Life and Death of Captain Marvel", which collects the Starlin issues plus Marvel Graphic Novel #1 (oddly enough, titled "The Death of Captain Marvel"). They have also released two Marvel Masterworks volumes, comprising Marvel Super-Heroes #12-13 and Captain Marvel #1-9 (Vol. 1) and Captain Marvel #10-21 (Vol. 2) - all pre-Starlin, and all enjoyable (I'm fond of #17-18, especially), but not necessarily for everybody's tastes.

He can also be seen as a major player in the Avengers: Kree-Skrull War TPB, and has a minor part in the Avengers: The Korvac Saga TPB.


Wayne

[CaptainCanada]

The telepathic teleconference with Iron Man and the SHIELD agent was pretty fun. I always get a kick out of government agencies using extra-normal stuff for normal activities.

It's a good start to the miniseries, and effectively introduces everything.

[Dpool]

Only Captain Marvel stuff featuring Mar-vell that I would recommend be bought be the Death of Captain Marvel graphic novel. His original series had some good runs mixed with not good ones and I'm not sure what has been released in graphic novels for him.

The Death of Captain Marvel was what I was refering to

[StoneGold]

Damn, that was pretty good. Granted, it was a set up issue, but it was a damn good set up issue. We know the players, we know their motivations, and there was even a little bit of ass kicking. And some spectacular art from Lee Weeks.


And Tony not being a douche.

[stingerman]

Damn, that was pretty good. Granted, it was a set up issue, but it was a damn good set up issue. We know the players, we know their motivations, and there was even a little bit of ass kicking. And some spectacular art from Lee Weeks.


And Tony not being a douche.

I agree. Plus it answered my Civil War questions about Cap. Mar.

[Trey]

Also thought it was good, Liked the little conference between stark and the SHIELD agent, Liked tCM talking about human art, Reed showed creativity in this first issue

The art was very old-school-looking, looked great, I can't believe one page had 13 panels!!! When an artist does that, it really allows the reader to get absorbed into the sequential storytelling.

[StoneGold]

I'm surprised no one is all indignant about Cyclone going smoosh. But then, it is Cyclone.

[Liberty Belle Fan]

hehe @ the sentry comment

i wonder how something like that would've went

It's funny how this comment is made when the Mighty Avengers are clearly fighting the same giant robot that Captain Marvel downs instantaneously. Why does the Sentry not do this? He's seen in one of the panels in the same battle. The Sentry seems to be very powerful solo, but not so much when in a team setting.

[DDM]

Just wiki'd the rest of the info is the graphic novel worth the buy?

The Life & Death of Captain Marvel TPB is worth the price. It reprints Iron Man #55 (1st Thanos, Mentor, Eros, Eternals of Titan, Chronus, Drax the Destroyer), Captain Marvel #25-34, Marvel Premiere featuring Thing & Drax vs the Blood Brothers, agents of Thanos, & Marvel Graphic Novel #1. Jim Starlin's character development from Captain Marvel #25-34 is all you need to know since he covers Mar-Vell's origin within the story as well. Jim Starlin is responsible for Mar-Vell's "cosmic awareness" & his changing role to Protector of the Universe.

Captain Marvel plays a significant role in The Avengers: The Kree-Skrull War TPB which establishes the war between the Skrulls & the Kree while Earth is stuck in the middle. It guest stars Carol Danvers too. You also have the Super Skrull.

I would also seek out Marvel Super-Heroes #12-13 (1st Captain Marvel, Carol Danvers) particularly if his original series has got the Essential treatment.

[Cthulhudrew]

I'm surprised no one is all indignant about Cyclone going smoosh. But then, it is Cyclone.

Considering that particular Cyclone was already supposed to be dead, I'm not surprised.

[Cthulhudrew]

The Sentry seems to be very powerful solo, but not so much when in a team setting.

It's the Superman factor. He's uber-powerful on his own, but team him up with the JLA and his power levels fluctuate depending on which member he's working with at any given time. :)

[Pyro]

I think I may trade wait for this. Lee Week's art is beautiful though.

[overcomebyfumes]

I'm kinda hoping Mar-Vell dies, thus permanently messing up continuity.


I don't know why, but for some reason the thought makes me giddy with joy.

pax.

[stingerman]

I'm kinda hoping Mar-Vell dies, thus permanently messing up continuity.


I don't know why, but for some reason the thought makes me giddy with joy.

pax.

Actually it almost seems like they foreshadow this when Mar speaks about not dieing a warriors death....maybe Tony sends a bot back in time.:D

[Holdyourfireal]

Just wiki'd the rest of the info is the graphic novel worth the buy?

When I read it as a kid, it made me cry. Is it good? Yes.

[protege]

I'm surprised no one is all indignant about Cyclone going smoosh. But then, it is Cyclone.

I'm indignant because we didn't get to actually see a battle.

[Omega the Unknown]

the art was fantastic, as was the writing.

I loved LOVED the last page:
"though I may die soon, today.... today I am alive. Today I stand tall as a warrior and say - I am here, I made this happen".

Now THAT is the marv I was expecting. a true warrior born.
this was so much better than The Return, they are not even in the same universe.

now the questions:
why did cyclone target marv?
they have no history that I can recall.

and what was with the "I have come to kill as many as I can with the powers granted to..",
who granted his powers? was he told to go after marv?

is this "mother starr" chick someone we are supposed to know?

and what is it with Starlin characters and religions based on them :)

yeah, I know, Starlin didnt create Marv, but for all purposes the character we know is starlins creation.

[Cthulhudrew]

now the questions:
why did cyclone target marv?
they have no history that I can recall.

and what was with the "I have come to kill as many as I can with the powers granted to..",
who granted his powers? was he told to go after marv?

Since this particular Cyclone is a long dead character (killed by Scourge in the Bar With No Name), perhaps his return has something to do with the fact that Mar-Vell is also supposed to be dead in this time period.

Heck, given Marv's spotty memory, maybe he actually still is dead. He's some kind of wraith returned from the grave for some as yet unknown reason, and since he was able to slip the shackles of undeath, he inadvertently opened the doors to bring other dead folk out as well.

I'd suggest keeping an eye on supposedly dead characters who pop up in future issues for more.

[thronzeblast]

Was a great issue but honestly when people die in marvel it does not even register with me anymore because you know it may take years but your gonna see them pop back up sooner or later.

[Omega the Unknown]

Was a great issue but honestly when people die in marvel it does not even register with me anymore because you know it may take years but your gonna see them pop back up sooner or later.

well, Marv is a great character when_done_correctly, so I dont mind it as long as he is treated right.

when Marv first came on the scene in the green and white kree outfit and got his own mag I thought it was pretty cool.

then starlin came along and took him to a whole nother level.

but after starlin left, it got pretty darn lame.
poor art, poor writing... and poor me (I had a subscription at the time).

but this is a darn good start, better than I could have hoped for.

[Van Custo]

What's Marvel's power levels and abilities anyway I'm not too familiar with him.

[vtlogypj]

My first thought is Tony Stark needs to buy a phone. It's so much easier than a psychic teleconfrence

[Omega the Unknown]

the marvel wiki says he is pretty darn powerful, as follows:

Powers

Originally, Captain Marvel had no superhuman powers. However, the Kree have evolved with greater strength than Earth humans in order to combat the heavier gravity of their home worlds.

Dr. Benjamin Savannah's radiation treatment altered Mar-Vell's genetic structure so that he could absorb solar energy and convert it for various uses. He then relied on the solar power rather than the Nega-Bands for flight, and would leave a glowing trail behind him.

Solar Energy Metabolics: ability to metabolize solar energy and convert it for a variety of uses including converting the light of the sun and stars and to a variety of different forms of light and energy.

* Flight (Potentially trans-light speeds)
* Photon Energy Blasts (Powerful enough to destroy stars twice the size of earth)
* Super speed
* Virtual invulnerability

Illusions Casting (formerly)

Teleportation (formerly)

Cosmic Awareness: Limited precognitive powers and the ability to ascertain an opponent's weakness. It may be somewhat comparable to Spider-Man's spider-sense and to Mantis's awareness of psychic "vibrations," but its scope was far greater than either.
Abilities

Extensive knowledge of the technologically advanced vehicles and devices of the Kree Empire; Highly trained as a tactician and hand-to-hand combatant by the Kree military.
Strength level

Originally Captain Marvel possessed the normal level of strength for a Kree of his age, height, and build who engaged in intensive regular exercise. Under Earth's gravity he could lift (press) 1000 pounds. The Kree Nega-Bands enabled Mar-Vell to convert his psionic energy into physical strength, so that he could then lift (press) 10 tons. After Dr. Benjamin Savannah's radiation treatments, Mar-Vell could lift (press) 15 tons while wearing the Nega-Bands.
Weaknesses

No known weaknesses

[drwho]

Why was Captain Marvell considered in high regard among the Kree since he was a pink skinned kree? So Capt. Marvel's powers are similar to Sentry Solar wise. I was under the impression that he some how gained the powers by maybe absorbing radiation from the negabands he used to have.

[StoneGold]

Why was Captain Marvell considered in high regard among the Kree since he was a pink skinned kree? So Capt. Marvel's powers are similar to Sentry Solar wise. I was under the impression that he some how gained the powers by maybe absorbing radiation from the negabands he used to have.

If memory serves, he is held in high regard much as a one warrior would regard another warrior, but not neccesarily as a Kree. In other words, he was a serious ass kicker.

[Cthulhudrew]

If memory serves, he is held in high regard much as a one warrior would regard another warrior, but not neccesarily as a Kree.

Notably, though, just about every alien race sent a representative to convey their respects to him on his death bed (even the skrulls), but the kree did not.

The accord given him by the kree seems, to me, to be rather posthumous.

[Expletive Deleted]

Notably, though, just about every alien race sent a representative to convey their respects to him on his death bed (even the skrulls), but the kree did not.The Supreme Intelligence and his inner circle are kind of sore losers.

I'd bet the general public wasn't necessarily in lockstep with the establishment on the issue.

[Brother Zag]

What should I have read prior to this series, I think I got my hands on just about everything that had to do with civil war but I'm not remembering him too much.

He was just in the one panel or so in the main Civil War mini, but starred in "Civil War: The Return" one shot.

[Expletive Deleted]

... but starred in "Civil War: The Return" one shot.Which was, it should be noted, not particularly good.

[Brother Zag]

I'm surprised no one is all indignant about Cyclone going smoosh. But then, it is Cyclone.

I thought that was the one dissonant chord in the issue, the one that says "perhaps all is not as it seems"... seemed out of character. He doesn't remember how he got into the Negative Zone. What if he's a sleeper Skrull? One who doesn't know he's a Skrull until one day - Shazam! (okay, had to do that)

[Brother Zag]

Which was, it should be noted, not particularly good.

I liked it... but I was all giddy 'cause Mar-Vell was back

[Dpool]

It's the Superman factor. He's uber-powerful on his own, but team him up with the JLA and his power levels fluctuate depending on which member he's working with at any given time. :)

Yeah that makes sense cause sentry in there was kinda irking me


I really liked the art in this issue and I love how it ended. I thought the beginning was a little dialogue heavy but he it is a first issue bringing back someone from the dead. I like the mystery surrounding this issues and hey when ever I figure out what a pull list is #2 will be on it.

[CMBMOOL]

I'm kinda hoping Mar-Vell dies, thus permanently messing up continuity.


I don't know why, but for some reason the thought makes me giddy with joy.

pax.

Yeah and it would be more fuel to the fire for all of the Tony Stark haters for blaming him of this incident. :D

[bulbasteve]

Juicy psychology with an art reference? It's almost too much for me to handle, I'm sold!

[Dr.J.]

The old Mar-vel series left two unfinished plots dangling.The first, from issue 56,where someone sees him open up the underground lab of a super science bunch of old foes,gloating over their great fortune. The second,is from marvel spotlight 3,The "red and blue" story,where marv enters a huge spaceship,with no crew,their objective show at the end,cap.The matter was never again delt with. Inasmuch as He had just really fallen for ellisus,in m.s. 3,He had to have been plucked from this point.This would be the perfect time spot,to place the beginning of the skull invasion.Kills two birds,resolves the old storyline,ties into new big storyline.IF they didnt have him speak about her, they could have set his grab date,as far back as the end of c.m. 35.

[DDM]

Is the bald headed woman Moondragon the telepath for the conference? Reed did not make it clear in the story.

[Dagger]

Is the bald headed woman Moondragon the telepath for the conference? Reed did not make it clear in the story.
No, it wasn't. She was a random shield psi-agent. Besides, Moondragon is now a real dragon courtesy of the Quasar series.

[Brother Zag]

Is the bald headed woman Moondragon the telepath for the conference? Reed did not make it clear in the story.

Boy, they sure did make it look like her, didn't they? Methinks it was supposed to be Moondragon... until they realized she was off in space and, well, an actual Dragon, now...

[DDM]

Boy, they sure did make it look like her, didn't they? Methinks it was supposed to be Moondragon... until they realized she was off in space and, well, an actual Dragon, now...

Moondragon is unique given she's a woman & bald. I believe it was her, but Reed did not make clear. There are not that many bald female telepaths in the Marvel Universe. In all these years, Moondragon remains the only one.

[Brother Zag]

Moondragon is unique given she's a woman & bald. I believe it was her, but Reed did not make clear. There are not that many bald female telepaths in the Marvel Universe. In all these years, Moondragon remains the only one.

Well, until now, evidently, eh?

[matt levin]

Hey!

It's really great to see such a show of support for Mar-vell!
I don’t buy the brand, I buy the character. I don’t much follow “Captain Marvel”; I follow the former Kree warrior, Mar-vell. And while the last “Captain Marvel” I bought featured Monica Rambeau (the then-Capt. M), I also bought the 2007 version. And because I’ve hung on to my collection from when Mar-vell quit the Kree military through his last issues of trouble on Titan, I figured to judge this new issue hard.
There’s a troubling page-one newscast that refers to Marv as “the alien Kree known as--” which seems odd, as I hadn’t known Earth birthed any “native Kree.”
On the other hand, the page five phrases of Marv’s musings are very fine (“I have always admired humans and their ability to see things that aren’t there. / Even when they know better than to believe their eyes.”). Now, this admiration aside, by constantly referring to us Terrans as “humans”, Marv establishes that he has always recognized himself as not-human. Good to remember at Marv’s decision to let Cyclone meet his fate. Cyclone was really a carry-on character for me: where'd he come from, and as asked before, why, questions, no, I don't really need answered.
I’d really like it if foreign-word word balloons carried the actual foreign language, “Je suis Andr’e Gerard,” with the translation in a narration box below. Comics, painlessly, excitingly educational!?
It is a nice scene of telepathic communication including even some levity, which concludes with a particularly lovely depiction of Agent Sante’s “someplace pleasant.”
...This is a pretty good re-introduction...this issue one-again.
No, better than that: it does not disappoint. Even better: it inspires hope for issue two. It's a good comic with thought and appreciation I’d want given to a character I follow.
And it's great to see such a show of support for him, too. Thanks!

Matt

[Teitr Styrr]

Well, until now, evidently, eh?

What's that chick from the X-Men? Professor X's "sister", oh right Cassander. That's who she reminded me of.

[DDM]

What's that chick from the X-Men? Professor X's "sister", oh right Cassander. That's who she reminded me of.

Moondragon is more associated with Captain Marvel given her connection to Thanos, Adam Warlock, Eternals of Titan, The Avengers, The Defenders, & Warlock & the Infinity Watch. She's also been around since she was created by Jim Starlin around 1973 circa Iron Man #54.

[Brother Zag]

It's really great to see... such a show of support for him, too. Thanks!

Matt

QFT

Well put! Eloquently stated, Matt. I like your sentiments and agree with many, if not most.


And DDM... I first came across Moondragon in Defenders, so I didn't know she was a Starlin creation from '73. Thanks for the education :) Oh that Starlin! He's one of the few that can get me buying the Distinguished Competition... miss him on the Marvel, though. Now they have Giffen locked up, too.

Hey Marvel, ever though about signing DnA exclusive?

[DDM]

QFT

Well put! Eloquently stated, Matt. I like your sentiments and agree with many, if not most.


And DDM... I first came across Moondragon in Defenders, so I didn't know she was a Starlin creation from '73. Thanks for the education :) Oh that Starlin! He's one of the few that can get me buying the Distinguished Competition... miss him on the Marvel, though. Now they have Giffen locked up, too.

Hey Marvel, ever though about signing DnA exclusive?

Moondragon's origin is in Captain Marvel #32 showing the readers her connection to Drax the Destroyer (her father) & the Eternals of Titan (being raised by the Priests of Pama), although she was introduced in Iron Man #54 via a different writer & artist in the issue itself as "Madame MacEvil." Starlin created Moondragon though.

[Will.S]

I have to say, while I was hesitant to pick it up and was going to wait for the trade, I'm glad I bought it.

The best visuals for me were the opening zooming shots of Saturn and Mar-Vell's grave on Titan. It was very cinematic, moody, eerie, and sad at the same time but then it jumps right into Mar-Vell living today so you get the sense that yeah he eventually has to die but he's still alive right now picking up where he left off and yet very aware and put in a weird situation.

The various touches with Iron Man (who's guest starring EVERYWHERE), the psychic, the agent put in charge of dealing with Mar-Vell and the wonky time aspects, and even rational well thought out explanations to the really random Civil War appearances during The Return so Brian Reed answers the right questions right off the bat. The scene at the end with Captain Marvel owning that robot was very awesome as well.

Speaking of that, I do find interesting yet disconcerting at the same time at how the Mighty Avengers are used as some sort of ineffectual team until an outside player comes in. Stuff like Captain Marvel plowing through the robot in this issue, their fights with the Inhumans in Silent War, their fights with the Warbound and Hulk, and even Armory in Dan Slott's Initiative title saved their bacon from Ultimo. Like the constant yelling at Iron Man, I hope to see this change as they don't come off as all that good.

Anyway, great art by Lee Weeks and Jason Keith does a wonderful job with the coloring. So far this book is off to a VERY promising start.

[Magneto Rocks]

I have to say, I really liked this issue. I mean, it got points just for actually showing Atlanteans and those Initiative guys in the Battle of Times Square, but more importantly it did what "The Return" did not and made me actually give a crap about Captain Marvel. I wasn't sure before but Reed has convinced me, I'm in it for the series!

Oh and incidentally, nice little touch of inter title continuity with "Iron Man" that Tony's in the armour even in his mind. Although, is there ANYWHERE he hasn't popped up yet? He's a main player in his own book, Mighty and Cap, he's constantly in and out of New and The Order, he's been in Punisher, in this, in Ms Marvel, in Fantastic Four, in Hulk, in She-Hulk, in Thor, in Initiative, in Sub-Mariner... Hell, he's even managed to interact with the Thunderbolts despite never being in their book!

[CaptainCanada]

Although, is there ANYWHERE he hasn't popped up yet? He's a main player in his own book, Mighty and Cap, he's constantly in and out of New and The Order, he's been in Punisher, in this, in Ms Marvel, in Fantastic Four, in Hulk, in She-Hulk, in Thor, in Initiative, in Sub-Mariner... Hell, he's even managed to interact with the Thunderbolts despite never being in their book!
I haven't done a count, but I wouldn't be surprised if he appears in more books per month than Wolverine at this point.

[Will.S]

I haven't done a count, but I wouldn't be surprised if he appears in more books per month than Wolverine at this point.
Spider-Man's doing his hefty share of guest starring as well.

[DaeJi]

At least the majority of Tony's appearances in the books make sense and don't seem out of place, unlike Wolverine where most of the time he appeared in a book (this was a few years ago of course, when he was popping up everywhere) it made no sense what-so-ever. And hey, he hasn't been in any X-Books or Annihilation yet, so there's that.

[StoneGold]

At least the majority of Tony's appearances in the books make sense and don't seem out of place, unlike Wolverine where most of the time he appeared in a book (this was a few years ago of course, when he was popping up everywhere) it made no sense what-so-ever. And hey, he hasn't been in any X-Books or Annihilation yet, so there's that.

He was in Wolverine. This month, in fact. The closest he would have gotten to Annihilation were those Nova issues, though.

[DaeJi]

He was in Wolverine. This month, in fact. The closest he would have gotten to Annihilation were those Nova issues, though.

Well... that's still not a team X-Book... so that counts... I think.

[XPac]

At least the majority of Tony's appearances in the books make sense and don't seem out of place, unlike Wolverine where most of the time he appeared in a book (this was a few years ago of course, when he was popping up everywhere) it made no sense what-so-ever. And hey, he hasn't been in any X-Books or Annihilation yet, so there's that.

Yeah, Tony being used is story driven... which is nice.

Though in part I also think it's just to milk some of the post CW heat the character has developed with the fans. It's kinda funny... Wolverine guest startted all over the place in the 90's because everyone loved him. Tony is gust staring in part because people are mad at him.

[Magneto Rocks]

Well... that's still not a team X-Book... so that counts... I think.

Actually, he's appearing in an upcoming Brubaker Uncanny issue. :p

In which, for anyone who was wondering, Cyclops shouts at him. Because that's also a staple of his appearances everywhere these days.

[Rahul]

Actually, he's appearing in an upcoming Brubaker Uncanny issue. :p

In which, for anyone who was wondering, Cyclops shouts at him. Because that's also a staple of his appearances everywhere these days.
Or slapping him?

[DaeJi]

Actually, he's appearing in an upcoming Brubaker Uncanny issue. :p

In which, for anyone who was wondering, Cyclops shouts at him. Because that's also a staple of his appearances everywhere these days.

Yeah, well, there's still Annihilation! He's not there!

[HotRod_Tim]

After reading the first issue of the new Captain Marvel mini, I gotta say, for not ever having a chance to read much about the character, I was pretty much brought up-to-speed right quick. I loved the narrative throughout the entire ish. This cult of Marvel-ites is interesting, although it's been done before, I'm hoping Brian Reed can make something interesting out of it. As for Lee Week's art...goddamn! Every page and panel just brings to mind classic artists like John Buscema and John Romita. The last page with Cap Marvel standing there looking over the crowd got me giddy to see how the rest of the Marvel Universe reacts to his return.

Everybody should check this mini out if their interested in ol' Mar-Vell.

[Will.S]

The last page with Cap Marvel standing there looking over the crowd got me giddy to see how the rest of the Marvel Universe reacts to his return.

Everybody should check this mini out if their interested in ol' Mar-Vell.
I think that if this mini turns out to be really good, I'm going to wish that Mar-Vell stuck around or at least passed the torch to someone else with that name.

[Brother Zag]

I think that if this mini turns out to be really good, I'm going to wish that Mar-Vell stuck around or at least passed the torch to someone else with that name.

You can play all sorts of games with continuity when you pluck someone out of his time. Maybe this Mar-Vell doesn't go back and die? Maybe they can cure him now? A multitude of possibilities and potentials exist...

or maybe he's a Skrull.

[notyetbreathing]

captain marvel ftl

[Will.S]

or maybe he's a Skrull.
:eek:

Dude, that would be so WRONG!

[HotRod_Tim]

If Marvel really b*****s out and makes Cap Marvel a skrull...I'd do donuts in front of Joe Quesada's house at 3 in the morning.

[matt levin]

As for 'if this mini is any good, they should somehow continue with the character....'

there are all sorts of stories that can be told of Marv's life before he died-- his death didn't end his legend (heh, as witness Marvel Comics' endless attempts to keep the 'name' in play) and certainly there's a writer or two there-- even the current one!-- capable of creating other worthwhile stories set in the time between Marv's going cosmic and 'going west' (ie., dying).

Let's hope we get to see them.

Matt

[agirlyman]

As a long time "Captain Marvel" fan, it's great to see him back, he deserves more than a mini-series though. I really enjoyed the first mag though, great strory, even better art, that last panel blew me away, I just have to find that pic to put on my laptop background. I never even thought about him being s skrull, thanks for planting that one, it would just be funny/sad/upsetting/depressing lol.

[Brother Zag]

I never even thought about him being s skrull, thanks for planting that one, it would just be funny/sad/upsetting/depressing lol.

Hey, I was just kidding!

I think...

I hope?

[Will.S]

Hey, I was just kidding!

I think...

I hope?
Well with this solicitation it's harder to tell:

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/4980/captmarv004lm8.th.jpg (http://img222.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captmarv004lm8.jpg)

CAPTAIN MARVEL #4 (of 5)
Written by BRIAN REED
Penciled by LEE WEEKS
Cover by ED MCGUINNESS
SECRET INVASION: INFILTRATION is underway and Captain Marvel is in the middle of it! What is the truth about Captain Marvel's trip through time? The Kree are here to find out! Brian Reed (NEW AVENGERS: ILLUMINATI) and Lee Weeks (DAREDEVIL) continue the epic return of the Universe's finest soldier!
32 PGS./Rated A…$2.99

[jackolover]

Well, what do we know from CM #1? That CM is not a Kree, because Kree cannot appreciate paintings, and this CM can. If anything, this CM is human, unless Skrulls appreciate art too.

The memory loss happened while CM was floating in the Negative Zone, and the reason CM likes to look at the Alexander Babylon painting is that it helps his memory loss. Why? Because CM is disturbed that now he can appreciate paintings, and that doesn't fit his previous incarnation. If CM is a human, then the Skrulls have made a robot, [they keep referring to him as 'it'], then they implanted a human psyche into it's memory banks, and that's why it doesn't have any memories.

That's why CM doesn't know why he was in the neg zone. That's why he doesn't know what he was doing there. And thats why he doesn't know how to get back home.

It's also why CM let Cyclone fall to his death, instead of catching him. Because he is not Captain Marvel, and he behaves like an automaton when talking to a pretty girl like Heather Sante, referring to her as an 'interesting woman'.

[drwho]

God I hope your theory is wrong. I personally think it sounds like an awful idea. I'm more for him actually turning out to be a skrull. It would make some sense with who the character was when he was created. The whole alien turns on his own kind to save the earth.

[jackolover]

God I hope your theory is wrong. I personally think it sounds like an awful idea. I'm more for him actually turning out to be a skrull. It would make some sense with who the character was when he was created. The whole alien turns on his own kind to save the earth.

The fact that the series only lasts for 5 issues makes me think CM is terminated at the end, and that makes me think sythazoid.

There could be another twist to the Cyclone death, as well. What if CM knew Cyclone was a Skrull, and that's why he killed him,[or let him fall to his death]? Maybe the robot idea isn't close, but the idea CM can detect Skrulls and dispose of them, for some unkown reason, could be intriguing.

[OoNebsoO]

Would Skrull Captain Marvel know what Carol Danvers said after their first kiss? Would robot CM know that? Think this is the real CM, and that Skrull in detention is just messing around. You know Skrulls, wacky as hell.

[jackolover]

Would Skrull Captain Marvel know what Carol Danvers said after their first kiss? Would robot CM know that? Think this is the real CM, and that Skrull in detention is just messing around. You know Skrulls, wacky as hell.

Good point. Also, CM didn't know the Kree were Skrulls, either.

[Comet Man]

The only theory I want to be the right theory is the one that has him being the one and only Captain Marvel. Not a skrull, not a robot, but Mar-Vell himself.

I don't care how great a book The Death of Captain Marvel was, he never should have been killed off in the first place. Other characters come back from the dead, some more than once. There is no rule that says Captain Marvel, and Captain Marvel alone, has to stay dead.

[Don Quixote]

I really do hope this is the real Mar-Vell. I've never been interested in the character before, but it took only this issue by Reed to intrigue me.

If he turns out to be a Skrull, I'd be extremely disappointed, and feel pretty ripped off to have bought a Captain Marvel mini where the leading character turns out to be a fraud.

Even if it turns out that he has to go back in time to die, I'd prefer it to him being a Skrull, or a robot, or any other theory. I am hoping that this mini is just testing the waters to see if bringing him back permanently might work.

[Expletive Deleted]

That CM is not a Kree, because Kree cannot appreciate paintings, and this CM can.If the Kree don't appreciate art, that's an aspect of their culture, not of their species. And, culturally speaking, Captain Marvel was not exactly a typical Kree.