Huntress Belly Shirt Dicussion

[Johnny_Luck]

I completely agree. That is what bothered me about having her midriff exposed. That is the most vulnerable part of the body besides the head. You get hurt there, it is painful and if you are fatally hurt there, it is a painful death. And I think she looks great in the costume that covers everything.


This came from The Cheesecake thread and its one thing I like to hear more from on people cause it annoys me somewhat and also baffles me the way some people react to Huntress's Bellyshirt.

It really was one of my big beefs with changes after Ed Leaving.

I pretty sure that the Belly is not the most vulnerable part besides the head, the chest/heart is and thats cover/protected. Any thug or villian with common sense that wants to kill her with a bullet is going to aim for the head if the chest is protected as shes not protected there either. Sure she got shot in the belly, but the likely hood of it happening again is really fucking slim.

Plus changing the outfit because something MIGHT happen again is ludicrous. Are you saying that if you were to get in a car accident, you would never drive again or ride in one again, because there is a possibility that you just MIGHT be in another accident again someday. Or If you ever swallowed water down the wrong tube, you wouldn't even have a drink in your life again cause it MIGHT happen again.

I mean If you say she needs to cover up her belly because she might get shot there again, then she might as well be forced to wear a metal helmet all the time too, and Black Canary should have to wear Kevlar pants or something cause what if by the off chance someone MIGHT shoot her in the leg.

If you reform your life to what just MIGHT happen you be really bad off and pretty darn foolish.

I like to know Whats wrong with her showing a little skin? It just felt like a complete forced change to make a minority of picky birds fans(and possibly Gail) happy rather than for actual common sense costume change.

Belly shirts IMHO scream confidence in ones self and when that got removed I felt like it took something away from how she was as a character.

I Guess I just never get all the people that riot against Belly shirts or costumes on female heroes(before and still with Helena and now with Cassie/Kara) seeing as how its not like they are showing their boobs and/or crotch or anything. The belly isn't even a private part.

So Basically this boils down to, how did you feel about it, did you like or dislike the change, and what do you feel about Belly shirts in General? Also the logic behind changing a costume to cover up a body part but leaving the head unprotected.

[Mercurialblonde]

It's better than what her character USED to wear. That crazy Borat Thong thing.

I think with her background as an Italian catholic school teacher, she doesn't seem like someone who would be exposing her belly.

[Sally Sensational]

Wait a sec, aren't you the guy who threw an absolute FIT over a mask change? And now you're harshing on other people for getting angry over a shirt change.

The belly, below the ribs, is an incredibly vulnerable area, injury-wise. No, there's no instant-death organs there, like the heart, but the likelihood of death by secondary infection or internal bleeding is way higher with a gut wound. Any time any digestive organ is nicked or damaged, you have a high potential of potentially fatal and extremely fast peritonitis. Also, there are so many layers of organs and tissues in the abdomen that internal bleeding is often hard to spot and hard to stop if you can find it. Damage to the lower part of the liver and/or spleen can result in MASSIVE internal hemorrhaging as well.

You are actually more likely to recover well from a chest wound that does not damage the heart than from a bad belly/gut wound.

As for Huntress and costume changes, she's hot. She's gonna be hot no matter what she wears. But she's also a super-hero (ish). It makes more sense for her outfit to be tactically practical than sexy. I'm not saying she needs to be armored from head to toe, but she's smart - she's not going to leave an opening for potential injury. And as for the fact that she's already been gut-shot once, I can see where that would make her more careful, not less. Going up against the rogues and monsters she does doesn't make another shooting less likely, as you suggest, it makes it more likely - especially if there's an opening.

We do occasionally see her in civilian clothes; there's plenty of time for midriff-baring then.

[Johnny_Luck]

Wait a sec, aren't you the guy who threw an absolute FIT over a mask change? And now you're harshing on other people for getting angry over a shirt change.



Harshing? Huh? I was just confused by the idea that it absolutely needed to happen for her sake, which just seems ridiculous and my confusion comes not from people being angry about a change, but wanting that change to happen.

also Like I said just because something might Happen doesn't mean you have to change your whole ways of doing things to avoid it. My examples about the drinking and driving pretty much show how foolish doing something like that is.

[Mercurialblonde]

I also don't mind if Supergirl bears her midriff. She's indestructible and has x-ray vision. That she wears clothes at all is surely something of a minor miracle.

[StoneGold]

It's better than what her character USED to wear. That crazy Borat Thong thing.

I think with her background as an Italian catholic school teacher, she doesn't seem like someone who would be exposing her belly.

You're right. I can only imagine the money she'd spend on waxings and depilatory creams.

[Corrina]

I pretty sure that the Belly is not the most vulnerable part besides the head, the chest/heart is and thats cover/protected. Any thug or villian with common sense that wants to kill her with a bullet is going to aim for the head if the chest is protected as shes not protected there either. Sure she got shot in the belly, but the likely hood of it happening again is really fucking slim.


1. If you were a doctor, you'd know that the belly is one of the most vulnerable spots. Even the heart and the lungs are protected by the skeleton--all the internal organs in the body are exposed. Spleen, liver, kidneys. (Note: Chris Simms, QB in the NFL, nearly died from a ruptured spleen caused by a tackle. A bullet could certainly do enough damage to be fatal.)

That's why every body armor ever made protects the area.

2. When you are taught to shoot, you are taught to shoot at the torso--because thats' the biggest target.

Again, that's why body armor protects the entire area because it presents the easiest area to hit. Helmets are helpful too but they haven't quite been perfected because people need to see. But body armor definitely protects the chest. Look at Roman armor. Legs and arms exposed for movement, vulnerable areas like the stomach protected. Today's body armor essentially covers the same areas.

All why all this has relevance to the superhero universe?

Because they had Huntress get shot in the same area and nearly die. If they're going to introduce that element, they writers need to address the danger.

Plus, that Jim Lee designed costume was butt ugly. That's not fact, just a strong personal opinion. I want the old costume back, the one she dumped at the end of Cry for Blood.

[NickThompson]

So Basically this boils down to, how did you feel about it, did you like or dislike the change, and what do you feel about Belly shirts in General? Also the logic behind changing a costume to cover up a body part but leaving the head unprotected.
You're talkin the Jim Lee design, right? It was alright, but I prefer the current version.



As for in general, I have no problem with them providing everyone doesn't have them.

[TCJohnson]

In addition to what all the smart people are saying, you have a mostly dark costume with a pale midriff exposed. That means that in dim light the stomach would make a great target to aim for. Well, that and the thighs which have some major arteries that if hit would mean she would bleed to death within minutes.

I'm not saying she needs to be armored from head to toe, but she's smart - she's not going to leave an opening for potential injury.

Some tough leather, that's all I'm saying. Leather is sexy, right?

I also don't mind if Supergirl bears her midriff. She's indestructible and has x-ray vision. That she wears clothes at all is surely something of a minor miracle.

Which is why I used Huntress as an example. Supergirl doesn't have to worry about injury, so, combined with her character, it makes sense to have her midriff exposed. No problem with that. (Her skirt on the other hand...)

[TCJohnson]

Wait a sec, aren't you the guy who threw an absolute FIT over a mask change? And now you're harshing on other people for getting angry over a shirt change.


By the way, I know what you are saying but I really wouldn't say I got angry over it. I just think it is a really dumb design decision and doesn't make any sense other than to give the fanboys something to drool over.

[ChthonicSpirit]

The bare midriff made no sense from a practical standpoint, but it didn't really bother me, either. If you want to design superhero costumes for practicality alone, all non-powered vigilantes should dress like members of a SWAT team, and that would destroy 9/10ths of their visual appeal. It's that simple.

[BnL]

Plus changing the outfit because something MIGHT happen again is ludicrous. Are you saying that if you were to get in a car accident, you would never drive again or ride in one again, because there is a possibility that you just MIGHT be in another accident again someday. Or If you ever swallowed water down the wrong tube, you wouldn't even have a drink in your life again cause it MIGHT happen again.

No, but one might take reasonable precautions to avoid those things happening again, like being a more cautious driver and wearing a seatbeat, or not taking a drink while you're laughing. Taking reasonable precautions to minimize the possibility of negative results is just common sense.

[TCJohnson]

I had a friend who taught fencing. One day he wanted to show one of his students a cool move. Because this was not a real duel and they would be going slow, he didn't put on his mask.

So, of course, the foil slipped, went through the lense of his glasses and poked him in the eye.

As we were loading him up into the abulance he kept saying over and over, "I am so stupid."


He was ok in the end, just a small scar below the eye. Did he give up fencing? No. But he never, ever went anywhere near the business end of a foil without his mask again.

[BnL]

The bare midriff made no sense from a practical standpoint, but it didn't really bother me, either. If you want to design superhero costumes for practicality alone, all non-powered vigilantes should dress like members of a SWAT team, and that would destroy 9/10ths of their visual appeal. It's that simple.

Yeah, but that sort of thing works under it's own kind of fantasy logic. Sure it isn't realistic for heroes to be walking around in anything less than SWAT armor, but lots of fictitious reasons could be used to explain this, like the fact that technology is more advanced in the DCU than it is in real life, and there's all kinds of micro armor available to the heroes. We've been told that Batman's costume is designed to protect him from harm. Similarly, Robin's costume change from his original bare legs to the current look with pants has been explained to provide greater protection. Yet lots of non-powered female superheroes are still either too dumb, or too reckless to bother taking these basic precautions. It just doesn't add up.

[heystacy]

The bare midriff made no sense from a practical standpoint, but it didn't really bother me, either. If you want to design superhero costumes for practicality alone, all non-powered vigilantes should dress like members of a SWAT team, and that would destroy 9/10ths of their visual appeal. It's that simple.

Still, fighting crime in high heels and thongs and tops made to be busted (pardon the pun) out of is so over the edge. Truth be told I think some villains would be distracted more than anything. Others would never take the heroine seriously.

I wonder why most heroines aren't groped.

[Black Atom]

I never like that costume. Like most stuff Lee designed, it was rather over-designed. The impracticality of it doesn't really bother me.

[Tyr]

The belly, below the ribs, is an incredibly vulnerable area, injury-wise. No, there's no instant-death organs there, like the heart, but the likelihood of death by secondary infection or internal bleeding is way higher with a gut wound. Any time any digestive organ is nicked or damaged, you have a high potential of potentially fatal and extremely fast peritonitis. Also, there are so many layers of organs and tissues in the abdomen that internal bleeding is often hard to spot and hard to stop if you can find it. Damage to the lower part of the liver and/or spleen can result in MASSIVE internal hemorrhaging as well.

You are actually more likely to recover well from a chest wound that does not damage the heart than from a bad belly/gut wound.


Someone could also take a long knife or a short sword and stab into the belly and up into the ribcage. Puncturing the heart or a lung, wouldn't take a very long blade either, the Roman gladius, for example, worked very well for doing just this.

Which is why chest armor with bare midriff's never made much sense to me. Even plate with a chain midriff doesn't make much sense, chain is designed to stop a sword slash, but it doesn't work very well when someone is running two or two and 1/2 feet of steel in you. But I do have to admit bare midriffs make for a sexy costume. :)

[The Zapper]

Her costume sucks.

[Pink Bat Max]

Regardless of WHO it is: The belly shirt thing the woman have going in the DCU has GOT to be wrapped up and quick.

That said, Helena's was undoubtedly the best of the lot. Sorry Stargirl: Your costume needs to be rethought. Kara? Just no. Cassie? I think I knew ye.

[Alix Harrower]

Plus, that Jim Lee designed costume was butt ugly. That's not fact, just a strong personal opinion.

No, it's a fact. The Jim Lee Huntress costume was one of the stupidest things ever drawn, and the one she wore in Morrison's JLA was better in every conceivable way.

[Infra-Man]

For some reason with all this talk about bellies being vulnerable, I'm picturing Mr. Orange from Reservoir Dogs wearing a belly shirt...
http://media.monstersandcritics.com/articles/1215898/article_images/mr.whiteandmr.orangemakeitbacktothewarehouse.jpg

What does this say about me on a moral or spiritual level?

[Crowley]

Reminds me of a quote from "The Mosquito Coast":
Man sprang out of the faulty world, Charlie. Therefore, I'm imperfect. What's the use? It's a bad design, the human body. Skin's not thick enough, bones aren't strong enough, too little hair, no claws, no fangs. Drop us and we break! Why, we're not even symmetrical. One foot bigger than the other, left-handed, right-handed, our noses run. Look where our heart is.

We weren't meant to stand up straight---our posture exposes the most sensitive parts of the body, heart and genitals. We should be on all fours, hairier, more resistant to heat and cold, with tails. What happened to my tail, that's what I'd like to know....

It's humiliating to have a body with a design fault.

Allie Fox "The Mosquito Coast"
-Paul Theroux. 1982.

[Sarah Beach]

In addition to what all the smart people are saying, you have a mostly dark costume with a pale midriff exposed. That means that in dim light the stomach would make a great target to aim for. Well, that and the thighs which have some major arteries that if hit would mean she would bleed to death within minutes.

This is it exactly!

She's out crimefighting at night, and what did Lee give her? A bare midriff, where her pale skin would make a nice target AND a white cross bar right over her heart!

Yeah, "brilliant"! NOT! It wasn't even particularly lovely just as a design (in which case I might have given it a pass - my first ambition in life was to be a fashion designer).

*sigh*

[Ian Boothby]

This is just a rehash of Nightwing when he went through his buttless chaps period.

[Dry Observer]

Yeah, but that sort of thing works under it's own kind of fantasy logic. Sure it isn't realistic for heroes to be walking around in anything less than SWAT armor, but lots of fictitious reasons could be used to explain this, like the fact that technology is more advanced in the DCU than it is in real life, and there's all kinds of micro armor available to the heroes. We've been told that Batman's costume is designed to protect him from harm. Similarly, Robin's costume change from his original bare legs to the current look with pants has been explained to provide greater protection. Yet lots of non-powered female superheroes are still either too dumb, or too reckless to bother taking these basic precautions. It just doesn't add up.

I've long thought Batman-style bulletproof clothing make sense if you assume he's wearing something really expensive that combines armor with extraordinary flexibility -- enabling him to be a world-class gymnist and martial artist while still offering substantial protection.

Curiously, such material very nearly exists in the real world. Ever since goats were genetically modified to produce milk containing the same substance as spiders' webs, the potential to create such a superstrong-yet-flexible bodysuit has certainly been there.

I agree that non-powered women are often made to wear ridiculously unprotective clothing -- ironic, given that exceptionally beautiful people can look exceptionally beautiful while still being fully clothed. But there you go.

Personally, when I write ultra-competent (but non-indestructible) women who expect to be in combat, they choose their garb wisely. And I'd prefer for non-powered women in comics to do the same thing. Wondergirl and Supergirl, as others have pointed out, can shrug off or completely ignore a gunshot to the midriff. Heck, Supergirl can wade through most artillery fire like it's nothing.

But it aids in the suspension of disbelief if non-superpowered beings at least have the defenses to take on a common mugger, much less Two-Face or the Joker.

[Red Jack]

I don't think I've ever liked any of the Huntress's costumes.

She's supposed to be stalking these people, yes? So what with the cape and the hot pants and the thigh-high hooker boots.

She's stalking, not enticing. it's not like she's remotely scary.

She should be dressed in a variation of Selina's gear. And, of course, though I LOVE Andreyko's Manhunter, with Helena in the picture, there really shouldn't have been a need.

What fun it would be to write her.

[The Mirrorball Man]

While the costume wasn't perfect, one of the good things about it is that it was a contemporary sexy design. The belly shirt, the color pattern and the short shorts made it look like it belonged in the 21st century, instead of looking like a 1980's aerobic outfit, like most other superheroine costumes.

[Alan Lynch]

I agree with the folks who think it was daft and impractical. It just didn't make sense for someone like Huntress to start showing belly. Really, really odd design choice.

[Pink Bat Max]

I don't think I've ever liked any of the Huntress's costumes.

She's supposed to be stalking these people, yes? So what with the cape and the hot pants and the thigh-high hooker boots.

Superhero union rules. Gotham was under quota.

[JKCarrier]

I've long thought Batman-style bulletproof clothing make sense if you assume he's wearing something really expensive that combines armor with extraordinary flexibility -- enabling him to be a world-class gymnist and martial artist while still offering substantial protection.

Well, there you go. Huntress's belly isn't bare, she's just wearing special skintight bulletproof see-through material. ;)

(And special gyroscopes in her boots so she can run in high heels! :D )

[Black Atom]

Regardless of WHO it is: The belly shirt thing the woman have going in the DCU has GOT to be wrapped up and quick.

That said, Helena's was undoubtedly the best of the lot. Sorry Stargirl: Your costume needs to be rethought. Kara? Just no. Cassie? I think I knew ye.

I don't really mind Stargirl or Kara's belly shirts. I could see a young girl superhero wearing that. What's kinda dumb about Huntress' costume is that it's not even a real belly shirt. It's like a one-piece bathing suit with a little sliver cut out to reveal the stomach. It's almost like it was added as an after-thought.

[Mia]

I have no problem with the Jim Lee costume. I though that it looked nice and had far more aesthetic appeal than the ridiculous ‘PC’ one she’s stuck in now. I kind of find it amusing people who are looking for ‘practicality’ in a superhero comic? Has anyone here collected comic books since the 90’s?

The books have always been aimed with a mark towards sex appeal. Especially sex appeal towards men.

If super heroines were to be dressed with ‘practicality’ in mind they would be outfitted in tin armour and have shaved heads. That has no appeal to me either aesthetically or financially.


Personally I would rather see her back in the Cotagion costume. She looked more serious and dignified. But alas this is a different Huntress.

[Corrina]

The Contagion costume is what I was calling for.

[Pink Bat Max]

I don't really mind Stargirl or Kara's belly shirts. I could see a young girl superhero wearing that. What's kinda dumb about Huntress' costume is that it's not even a real belly shirt. It's like a one-piece bathing suit with a little sliver cut out to reveal the stomach. It's almost like it was added as an after-thought.

I just don't like the belly Shirt/Long Sleeve Combo. Cassie actually gets some slack from me 'cause hers is sleeveless.

And Huntress' I thought was just overall cute. Go fig.

Stargirl has been a fashion disaster from the get go. Cassie should pull her aside and say 'You know, I've been there with the terrible costume..... but there's help.'

[Mia]

Oh I forgot to add. I have no problem with the Jim Lee costume drawn by Jim Lee . Which is why I had a poster made out of the image of her the cover of 619.

However with other less capable artists it looks silly and ridiculous.

[Tyr]

Btw doesn't Starfire have super tough skin? I mean she flies through space and stuff in that getup right?

[Pink Bat Max]

Btw doesn't Stargirl have super tough skin? I mean she flies through space and stuff in that getup right?

Stargirl? I don't think so? If Sylvester Pemberton and/or Jack Knight couldn't fly through space without mechanical aid, she couldn't.

[Toreador]

Btw doesn't Stargirl have super tough skin? I mean she flies through space and stuff in that getup right?


I think your confusing Stargirl with Starfire.

[TCJohnson]

I kind of find it amusing people who are looking for ‘practicality’ in a superhero comic?

But you still have to be true to the characters. Such an impractical costume that leaves her so exposed, in every sense of the word, does not seem true to the character to me.

[Johnny_Luck]

I just don't like the belly Shirt/Long Sleeve Combo. Cassie actually gets some slack from me 'cause hers is sleeveless.

And Huntress' I thought was just overall cute. Go fig.

Stargirl has been a fashion disaster from the get go. Cassie should pull her aside and say 'You know, I've been there with the terrible costume..... but there's help.'

Stargirls outfit, is unique, original, out there, yet really cool. Its one factor that makes her a top ten DC character male and female. The star on the chest and the blue/white combo really works and the belly shirt IMHO is one thing that works well with the costume and is needed.

I also hate the fact that there are basically riots of internet fans that moan and whine until belly shirts are gone completely from characters. I mean Huntress was due to that, then Cassie's new costume is no longer a belly shirt, though the t-shirt and jeans combo was amazing and worked so well for her. Instead we have ugly leather feather looking skirt and armor plated chest gear, which annoys me cause it makes her way to amazon like when shes tried to distance herself from that for so many years.

The only people with Belly shirts left are Kara and Courtney both of which should keep them. Though I can see if people keep whining about Kara's belly shirt we might lose that too.

again its not like its a frigin private part or anything so its kind of ridiculous the way some treat it as such.

[Alan Lynch]

The only people with Belly shirts left are Kara and Courtney both of which should keep them. Though I can see if people keep whining about Kara's belly shirt we might lose that too.

again its not like its a frigin private part or anything so its kind of ridiculous the way some treat it as such.
I think someone's already pointed this out, but given the fuss you kicked up over a "frigin" mask, I'm not sure you should be throwing out words like "whining" in respect to this thread. I haven't seen any of that in here.

[PatrickG]

The only people with Belly shirts left are Kara and Courtney both of which should keep them. Though I can see if people keep whining about Kara's belly shirt we might lose that too.

again its not like its a frigin private part or anything so its kind of ridiculous the way some treat it as such.

My crystal ball says she keeps the belly shirt and gets blue pants with gold stripes down the sides.

Though maybe she'll just wind up in a more traditional Silver-Age style Supergirl costume -- in which case her current skirt is way too long. (Look at some scans. Classic Kara's skirt extended less than an inch below her crotch and, until the 80s, just managed to magically cover everything until just before she died, when her skirt was blowing up practically every panel. Thank Rao for Super-Starch!)

[Pink Bat Max]

again its not like its a frigin private part or anything so its kind of ridiculous the way some treat it as such.

I don't dislike it because it's revealing. Hell, I like Wonder Woman's costume, and Power Girl's, and STARFIRE'S.

I dislike it because it's akin to Tammy Faye Baker's makeup or the fauxhawk: It just plain strikes me as tacky.

[Tyr]

I think your confusing Stargirl with Starfire.

Yes I am...no problem me fix.... :o

[Johnny_Luck]

I think someone's already pointed this out, but given the fuss you kicked up over a "frigin" mask, I'm not sure you should be throwing out words like "whining" in respect to this thread. I haven't seen any of that in here.

again I wasn't talking about whining in this thread as people clearly weren't really talking about supergirl in detail here. I love how people clearly jump on me for an incident that really wasn't whining and try and attack me with it when what they are trying to attack me about saying really has nothing to do with what was said for here.

P.S. its not just a "frigin Mask" its the key part to her costume that makes her look unique from other heroes and helps her look cool and badass while going into battle.

[NickThompson]

Supergirl's costume looks dumb to me because it isa belly shirt, PLUS sleeves.

[TCJohnson]

again I wasn't talking about whining in this thread as people clearly weren't really talking about supergirl in detail here. I love how people clearly jump on me for an incident that really wasn't whining and try and attack me with it when what they are trying to attack me about saying really has nothing to do with what was said for here.

P.S. its not just a "frigin Mask" its the key part to her costume that makes her look unique from other heroes and helps her look cool and badass while going into battle.

Well, you did call my opinions annoying and ludicrous. But the laugh I got from this post makes up for it.

[Alan Lynch]

again I wasn't talking about whining in this thread as people clearly weren't really talking about supergirl in detail here. I love how people clearly jump on me for an incident that really wasn't whining and try and attack me with it when what they are trying to attack me about saying really has nothing to do with what was said for here.
I don't want to be rude, but seriously? You called people out for whining about a belly shirt in this thread. You dismissed their opinions as unimportant because you liked the belly shirt. I'm not attacking you for the mask thing - I could, but I'm a gent sometimes - just pointing out the glaring hypocrisy in you cussing people for disliking something you like. You can't see that?
P.S. its not just a "frigin Mask" its the key part to her costume that makes her look unique from other heroes and helps her look cool and badass while going into battle.
Nothing screams badass like exposed navel.

[Black Atom]

Supergirl's costume looks dumb to me because it isa belly shirt, PLUS sleeves.

Why's that dumb? Such shirts exist in real life. Huntress's thing isn't even a belly shirt. It's a gym leotard that covers everything but the most vulnerable part of her mid-section.

[snarkbunny]

Why's that dumb? Such shirts exist in real life. Huntress's thing isn't even a belly shirt. It's a gym leotard that covers everything but the most vulnerable part of her mid-section.


I have to agree with Nick, most belly shirts with sleeves look like they got shrunk in the laundry, which is not a look I favour.

Overall, I agree with the majority of posters, given that Huntress is not invulnerable, and is prone to get into close combat with armed opponents, the bared belly goes against her characterization as a woman with a strong practical streak.

[Pink Bat Max]

Why's that dumb? Such shirts exist in real life. Huntress's thing isn't even a belly shirt.

That doesn't make them right!

[Black Atom]

That doesn't make them right!

Get with the times. Midriff's the new cleavage!

[Alan Lynch]

Nothing will replace clevage. Nothing.

[snarkbunny]

Get with the times. Midriff's the new cleavage!

May I have a bit of clarification please? Are you defending belly shirts with sleeves or just exposed midriffs in general?

[Mercurialblonde]

I love Supergirl's costume. The sleeves are one of my favorite fashion things in comics. The problem with her outfit has never really been about the top in my opinion, it's been about her skirt.

[Johnny_Luck]

I really don't see how people can complain about it being too short with Churchill considering how its been in SG history where it didn't even cover her panties.

Churchill's Supergirl outfit wise, hair wise, facial feature wise and stomach muscle/fitness was perfect.

since we've had horrid bangs rather than long straight hair with everyone from Garza to Drew and super long skirts to try and go polar opposite of what SG has been with Geudes way too long one.

Supergirls long sleeves as well as Stagirls long sleeves work with the outfit, they just do.

[Alan Lynch]

I've seen plenty of people wearing midriff-bearing, long-sleeved tops. They were nightclub podium dancers mind you, but every little helps.

[Black Atom]

May I have a bit of clarification please? Are you defending belly shirts with sleeves or just exposed midriffs in general?

Neither, really. I was just making a general comment.

[snarkbunny]

I've seen plenty of people wearing midriff-bearing, long-sleeved tops. They were nightclub podium dancers mind you, but every little helps.

I seen plenty of people wear pants with the crotch down to the knees, too.
Plenty of people wearing a style does not mean the style looks good.

Neither, really. I was just making a general comment.
Ah. Thank you. Does that mean you are taking up the bared midriff look as part of your personal style? :)

[Magneto X]

Nothing will replace clevage. Nothing.

Booty will be the new cleavage.

[Black Atom]

Ah. Thank you. Does that mean you are taking up the bared midriff look as part of your personal style? :)

Actually, I'm bringing back the tube top.

Booty will be the new cleavage.

I don't see that happening anytime soon, unfortunately. For one, booty is harder to come by than either midriff or cleavage.

[Tyr]

Nothing will replace clevage. Nothing.

Amen brother! Preach it! :D

[snarkbunny]

Actually, I'm bringing back the tube top.


Now that's a style with potential, especially if you bring it forth as a style for both men and women.