How would you like the Mystique/Iceman romance to turn out? [Archive]

ProfeZZor X

11-08-2007, 04:40 PM

Though she kind of made it clear on what she will do to Bobby the next time she encounters him, she also hasn't expressed more emotion towards anyone else since who.... Forge?

It also seems that Bobby has been greatly affected by her, as expressed in #205, and that he also can't seem to get his feelings for her out of his head either. I know they're two opposing characters, but can you really see this impromptu romance being strung out over time like the tumultuous Gambit/Rogue romance, or do you think it was a done deal as soon as she accomplished her goal of temporarily immobilizing Iceman's powers?

Brian M.

11-08-2007, 04:41 PM

What fawking romance? She betrayed him. Tried to kill him. Bobby's not an idiot. No romance, just a one night stand.

1WEBHEAD

11-08-2007, 04:45 PM

What fawking romance? She betrayed him. Tried to kill him. Bobby's not an idiot. No romance, just a one night stand.

My thoughts exactly.

I mean, kudos to Bobby for banging one of the hottest muties alive but still, I wouldn't call it romance.

ProfeZZor X

11-08-2007, 04:48 PM

What fawking romance? She betrayed him. Tried to kill him. Bobby's not an idiot. No romance, just a one night stand.

She didn't "try" to kill him. Otherwise, he'd be dead and melted in the water where he was last seen with her. She clearly let him go for a reason, and it wasn't because he had a nice smile... And I'm not talking about sexual reasons either. There had to be some level of intimacy and connection for her to take her "plan" to that level.

I mean since when has she ever voluntarily slept with an enemy to achieve her goal?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending their "fawking" relationship, I'm just getting opinions. Even Mike Carey said in a recent interview about his new solo book that their romantic issues are still unresolved.

DarthCyclopsRLZ

11-08-2007, 04:51 PM

Cyclops killing Mystique in front of Bobby.

And Bobby yelling: NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

Slant

11-08-2007, 04:52 PM

Cyclops killing Mystique in front of Bobby.

And Bobby yelling: NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

Switch out Cyclops for Sinister and you're on to something.

xmanson

11-08-2007, 04:53 PM

Iceman needs to meet Mystik. THEN things will really get hot.

frog

11-08-2007, 04:53 PM

Carey has said he isn't through with Bobby and Mystique yet. I don't think they are going to be friends, however.

DarthCyclopsRLZ

11-08-2007, 04:53 PM

Switch out Cyclops for Sinister and you're on to something.

Nah.

Might as well give Bobby a valid reason to throw a hissy fit at Cyke.

Pixie_Solanas

11-08-2007, 04:54 PM

I think Cannonball and Serafina had a more meaningful relationship than Bobby and Mystique ever did.

Brian M.

11-08-2007, 04:59 PM

She didn't "try" to kill him. Otherwise, he'd be dead and melted in the water where he was last seen with her. She clearly let him go for a reason, and it wasn't because he had a nice smile... And I'm not talking about sexual reasons either. There had to be some level of intimacy and connection for her to take her "plan" to that level.

I mean since when has she ever voluntarily slept with an enemy to achieve her goal?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending their "fawking" relationship, I'm just getting opinions. Even Mike Carey said in a recent interview about his new solo book that their romantic issues are still unresolved.

Yea your right...she didnt' try and kill him. She just tried to take away his powers right before a fight w/ the freaking Marauders. My bad. She slept w/ him b/c he was the biggest threat and it was the only way to neutralize him. She said it herself in #203.

claimtosubclaim

11-08-2007, 05:00 PM

Psylocke and Jean both show up in the knick of time and kill Mystique, and then both offer to marry him. He has an ultimatum now.

ProfeZZor X

11-08-2007, 05:06 PM

Yea your right...she didnt' try and kill him. She just tried to take away his powers right before a fight w/ the freaking Marauders. My bad. She slept w/ him b/c he was the biggest threat and it was the only way to neutralize him. She said it herself in #203.

So then why not kill him when she had the chance? It's not like she had any loyalties to the X-Men at that point. She had two opportunities to do so. During intercourse, and when she was with the Marauders to get the diaries.

Brian M.

11-08-2007, 05:06 PM

So then why not kill him when she had the chance? It's not like she had any loyalties to the X-Men at that point. She had two opportunities to do so. During intercourse, and when she was with the Marauders to get the diaries.

Certainly not b/c she loves him. Maybe she came to respect him, but it sure as shit ain't love.

DarthCyclopsRLZ

11-08-2007, 05:06 PM

Psylocke and Jean both show up in the knick of time and kill Mystique, and then both offer to marry him. He has an ultimatum now.

Marry Bobby...?

With Sam in the picture? Puh-lease.

Unless you meant Cyke, but he'd probably be too busy kicking Blue's corpse and yelling "This is for Nate, you vicious scow! And just for the f****n principle at that!!" to even notice a proposal. :D

Brian M.

11-08-2007, 05:07 PM

Marry Bobby...?

With Sam in the picture? Puh-lease.

Unless you meant Cyke, but he'd probably be too busy kicking Blue's corpse and yelling "This is for Nate, you vicious scow! And just for the f****n principle at that!!" to even notice a proposal. :D

He oughta kick'm once for Maddy too.

DarthCyclopsRLZ

11-08-2007, 05:07 PM

Certainly not b/c she loves him. Maybe she came to respect him, but it sure as shit ain't love.

Word. Seriously.

That'd be so f****n cheesy.

ZNOP

11-08-2007, 05:09 PM

I think Cannonball and Serafina had a more meaningful relationship than Bobby and Mystique ever did.

Wow, Sentinel sex:cool:

DarthCyclopsRLZ

11-08-2007, 05:10 PM

He oughta kick'm once for Maddy too.

Good point.

I gotta say, don't especially like Maddie, but I can't believe there hasn't been one single f****n mention of her, what with her son dying. :eek:

I know editors try to ignore the editorially-mandated mess of Cyke leaving his wife and son, but still... An "I'm sorry, Maddie" line while Cyke was standing next to the Nate memorial wouldn't actually have killed anyone, right?

Brian M.

11-08-2007, 05:11 PM

Good point.

I gotta say, don't especially like Maddie, but I can't believe there hasn't been one single f****n mention of her, what with her son dying. :eek:

I know editors try to ignore the editorially-mandated mess of Cyke leaving his wife and son, but still... An "I'm sorry, Maddie" line while Cyke was standing next to the Nate memorial wouldn't actually have killed anyone, right?

Yea...that woulda been kinda cool. Maybe put a tombstone next to Maddy's. Doesn't she have one?

DarthCyclopsRLZ

11-08-2007, 05:13 PM

Yea...that woulda been kinda cool. Maybe put a tombstone next to Maddy's. Doesn't she have one?

No idea. Refer to the 'editors ignoring it' point I brought up. :confused:

ProfeZZor X

11-08-2007, 05:15 PM

Certainly not b/c she loves him. Maybe she came to respect him, but it sure as shit ain't love.

I agree with you there, but the fact remains that there are still some unresolved issues that need to be brought up again to give this situation closure.

Brian M.

11-08-2007, 05:17 PM

I agree with you there, but the fact remains that there are still some unresolved issues that need to be brought up again to give this situation closure.

Yea...but there is no romantic relationship anymore...even if it turns out Mystique is playing this for the sake of Rogue, she still tried to off Bobby. Personally, no matter how good and kinky the sex is, if a girl tries to kill me afterwards...we aren't gonna be seeing each other anymore.

DarthCyclopsRLZ

11-08-2007, 05:19 PM

Yea...but there is no romantic relationship anymore...even if it turns out Mystique is playing this for the sake of Rogue, she still tried to off Bobby. Personally, no matter how good and kinky the sex is, if a girl tries to kill me afterwards...we aren't gonna be seeing each other anymore.

Guess it would be a bad time to point out that Emma could at least go for a valid insanity plea? :D

Monty_Cristo

11-08-2007, 05:24 PM

i think they should get married and Shortpack would be their marriage counselor.

Brian M.

11-08-2007, 05:34 PM

Guess it would be a bad time to point out that Emma could at least go for a valid insanity plea? :D

If she's shot out into space after doing it...sure.

Omega Alpha

11-08-2007, 05:54 PM

What fawking romance? She betrayed him. Tried to kill him. Bobby's not an idiot. No romance, just a one night stand.

Exactly. Way overblown by some Iceman fans.

worstblogever

11-08-2007, 06:05 PM

Bobby is on the rescue team. Mystique tries to make good on her promise to kill Bobby when next she saw him. Bobby creates an ice fist that knocks her back so far, she lands on Rogue, and initiates skin contact. Rogue touches Mystique for so long, she absorbs both her shape shifting powers, and her ability to juggle multiple identities in her mind (Raven's had so many that she's used to juggle a bunch.) Now Rogue can get up from her coma. Mystique starts forgetting who she is, eventually settling on being Foxx again, and takes a badly wounded Gambit to safety to take care of him and gets the f*** out of the X-Books for awhile.

Rogue and Bobby have a hard time coming to grips with the resulting disappearance of Mystique for awhile, as well as being unsure of Gambit's final fate. Rogue and Bobby start getting as close as they did during their road trip in the 90's, and re-explore it without Rogue being hung up on a Cajun.

See? This version doesn't force Mystique to have non-existent feelings, wakes up Rogue, and makes her do more than swoon over Gambit while using established relationships. Can't get any better than that.

Faded

11-08-2007, 06:06 PM

With lots of stab wounds.

Hi-Fi

11-08-2007, 06:06 PM

Diablito

11-08-2007, 06:20 PM

Mystique and Iceman= Bleah.

Mystiq and Iceman= Hellz Yeah!!!

Magneto X

11-08-2007, 06:24 PM

Yea...but there is no romantic relationship anymore...even if it turns out Mystique is playing this for the sake of Rogue, she still tried to off Bobby. Personally, no matter how good and kinky the sex is, if a girl tries to kill me afterwards...we aren't gonna be seeing each other anymore.

Aw ... nobody believes that. What's a risked life compared to another kinky round? She might warm to your masicism and start only trying to wound you!

Monty_Cristo

11-08-2007, 07:51 PM

Mystique was just using Bobby. She didn't kill him because somehow what he said to her hit home and took her by surprise. Maybe she felt a *little* bad for him. Also, she probably knew Rogue would never forgive her.

Though I doubt Rogue will ever even talk to her again...

it's quite obvious that she was test-driving him before she presents him to Rogue. that's how she determines who is worthy of her daughter. and Bobby's almost part of the family since he was so close to Graydon Creed.

Matthew K.

11-08-2007, 08:09 PM

What fawking romance? She betrayed him. Tried to kill him. Bobby's not an idiot. No romance, just a one night stand.

But...but...but...

...nah, you're right.

Monty_Cristo

11-08-2007, 08:13 PM

What fawking romance? She betrayed him. Tried to kill him. Bobby's not an idiot. No romance, just a one night stand.

how can you say that with a straight face? Bobby is an idiot! Opal Tanaka?! Emma Frost? Lorna Dane? the boy falls hard and will pretty much hit on anything that walks.

justin gilchrist

11-08-2007, 08:17 PM

What if Mystique ends up pregnant? :eek:

Brian M.

11-08-2007, 08:18 PM

how can you say that with a straight face? Bobby is an idiot! Opal Tanaka?! Emma Frost? Lorna Dane? the boy falls hard and will pretty much hit on anything that walks.

How many tried to kill him?

Monty_Cristo

11-08-2007, 08:22 PM

How many tried to kill him?

how many of them ended up being crazy?

Super Ice Saiyan

11-08-2007, 08:38 PM

How many tried to kill him?

How about Infectia?

But seriously, In X-Men #205 Bobby was too overly concerned by the events that has taken place beforehand. He understands the life of an X-Man so I can't figure out why is he whining to Canonball and the others about what happened. I almost feel Mike Carey has taken a step backwards with everthing he developed about his character. I just hope Bobby has a better reaction in the next couple of books or whenever he and Mystique meet again. He needs to start being the badass he was before.

I personally view this relationship as a one night stand and I'm sure Bobby knows this also.

RoguishGurl

11-08-2007, 08:51 PM

I think there is the chance for a true romance between them. I mean the love/hate relationships always are more passionate and cool. At least they are in fiction, I'm not sure about real life.

We R. Venom

11-08-2007, 08:59 PM

I would like for them to stay distant in a way that they both know how it would turn out, and still do not try to look for anything more. But at the same time have a spark that neither will recognize or let go. Bobby said he couldnt bring himself to hate her. He knew what he was getting into, Mystique knew what she was doing damn well but they both go something out of it they didnt expect, you must admit.

caney

11-08-2007, 09:06 PM

With Iceman still alive. Anything else I could deal with.

Monty_Cristo

11-08-2007, 09:17 PM

I think there is the chance for a true romance between them. I mean the love/hate relationships always are more passionate and cool. At least they are in fiction, I'm not sure about real life.

i think this relationship has zero lasting potential. Mystique is in love with Irene Adler. the only man she's felt any closeness to was Forge and they still treat each other like dirt. at most Bobby is cute jail bait.

ProfeZZor X

11-08-2007, 09:31 PM

i think this relationship has zero lasting potential. Mystique is in love with Irene Adler. the only man she's felt any closeness to was Forge and they still treat each other like dirt. at most Bobby is cute jail bait.

You're forgetting Azael and Victor Creed. The only two men prior to Bobby that managed to get into her panties... At least with Bobby, he didn't have to man-handle her to get to the goods.

I'm fine with them going their separate ways, but it would be fun if both of them had that love/hate relationship going on like in that movie "Mr & Mrs Jones".

Monty_Cristo

11-08-2007, 09:35 PM

You're forgetting Azael and Victor Creed. The only two men prior to Bobby that managed to get into her panties... At least with Bobby, he didn't have to man-handle her to get to the goods.

I'm fine with them going their separate ways, but it would be fun if both of them had that love/hate relationship going on like in that movie "Mr & Mrs Jones".

i have trouble acknowledging Azazel but i think, with Victor, she was just out to have mutant offspring. plus, she didn't lay down with him as Mystique. she was in the middle of a spy mission. so i doubt they were that close.

ProfeZZor X

11-08-2007, 09:48 PM

i have trouble acknowledging Azazel but i think, with Victor, she was just out to have mutant offspring. plus, she didn't lay down with him as Mystique. she was in the middle of a spy mission. so i doubt they were that close.

You mean to tell me that sleeping with Iceman was the ONLY way for Mystique to incapacitate his powers? ... I find that a little hard to believe, especially coming from a woman that's practiced deception and combat long before Bobby was even alive. There had to be some personal satisfaction in sleeping with him at some point.

On a scientific level, when a woman is intimate with a man, biological chemicals are transmitted to the brain that bonds them to that intimate partner. That is why women want relationships more than men.

And although this is a comic book, it's very well possible that this experience has given her a different approach to the person she truly is. Maybe that's why she allowed him to live.

We all know Mike has been building her character up for something big, otherwise we wouldn't be getting all the clues indicating that despite her treachery to the X-Men and to the Marauders, she has an even greater cause for doing the things that she's doing.

Samuraixsithlord

11-09-2007, 02:12 AM

She spared Iceman because despite everything she did, up until she gave him Nano VD, Iceman still treated her like a human being, and trusted her to some extent. I can see at the end of Messiah Complex Bobby letting Raven go or stopping Rogue from killing her.

and then we'll have Raven/Bobby drama for the next few years

North-Star

11-09-2007, 03:25 AM

I've been posting for a while here that I have no love for Mystique, how I was afraid that she would've ended up preggers by Bobby. How he needs to frost that b*tchs ass and hook up with Lady M or Northstar...

I'm not feeling the connection. It is rushed in my opinion. But maybe that's how Mystique works. And maybe that's why it works. 'Cos people go all: 'Yeahbutwhat?!!'.....

And then you have the people who adore them as a couple...
To them I say: 'It means that you are a baboon and I am not'

and I hit them in the head with Korvus's sword!

ZNOP

11-09-2007, 03:43 AM

I've been posting for a while here that I have no love for Mystique, how I was afraid that she would've ended up preggers by Bobby.

Now, that would make a great story. But, being that we know how Mystique rears her young -- man what a life that would be:evilsmile Moreover I, would prefer Mystique's bed over Emma Frost's any day in heaven or hell;)

Swashbuckler

11-09-2007, 06:00 AM

I am pretty sure Mystique has slept with more guys that just Victor, Azazel and Bobby. She slept with Wolverine once I know. Then again, who hasn't slept with Wolverine, even I have. Errr....yeah. Anyway, I don't see the whole Bobby/Raven mess continuing after MC. I think Mystiques gonna die. Hopefully at the hands of Nightcrawler who is so tired of his stupid mom being such a bitch constantly.

Rolltideguy77

11-09-2007, 06:36 AM

Bobby only likes Mystique because she can change shape. You just know he wants her to be Northstar all the time.

cable guy

11-09-2007, 06:43 AM

Then again, who hasn't slept with Wolverine, even I have. Errr....yeah.

did he call you?

Swashbuckler

11-09-2007, 07:07 AM

afterwards? no....and it broke my heart. That and I'm still washing all the hair out of my sheets!

Omega Alpha

11-09-2007, 08:45 AM

You mean to tell me that sleeping with Iceman was the ONLY way for Mystique to incapacitate his powers?

Yes. Dude, I understand Iceman is your favorite, but you gotta be reasonable. Mystique's plan for the beginning was to seduce the most powerful member of the team and depower him. She did seduced him, she did depower him, there was no romance, no secret lust that has always been there, no love, etc.

ProfeZZor X

11-09-2007, 12:44 PM

Yes. Dude, I understand Iceman is your favorite, but you gotta be reasonable. Mystique's plan for the beginning was to seduce the most powerful member of the team and depower him. She did seduced him, she did depower him, there was no romance, no secret lust that has always been there, no love, etc.

Like I said earlier. I'm fine either way with the outcome of it all. I was just getting opinions.

DarthCyclopsRLZ

11-09-2007, 12:50 PM

Yes. Dude, I understand Iceman is your favorite, but you gotta be reasonable.

Soooo not happening.

Love ya anyway, Prof. :D

Jesse Newcomb

11-09-2007, 12:56 PM

Bobby being preggers with Mystique's baby.

caney

11-09-2007, 02:33 PM

Just a thought: If Mystique's whole plan was to knock out Bobby from the start, she could have easily let him die after he saved her from Aurora. No one would have known she could have saved him. Did she develop a soft spot for him after he saved her life, or did she still need to use him for something at that point?

Monty_Cristo

11-09-2007, 02:43 PM

ProfeZZor X

11-09-2007, 04:22 PM

the plan is to hook Bobby and Rogue up. i'm not kidding.

Then why did she bother introducing Pulse into the mix when she herself was trying to get into the X-Men's good graces?

Bobby was against allowing Mystique into the mansion. Then all of a sudden he had a change of heart when she's on Rogue's team. I don't get it. :confused:

claimtosubclaim

11-09-2007, 04:33 PM

Then why did she bother introducing Pulse into the mix when she herself was trying to get into the X-Men's good graces?

Bobby was against allowing Mystique into the mansion. Then all of a sudden he had a change of heart when she's on Rogue's team. I don't get it. :confused:

He didn't seem slanted to either side during the vote. His anti-Mystique sentiment was in response to Alex agreeing with Lorna. But didn't he also bring up the fact that Rogue was a villain and she turned out okay?

ProfeZZor X

11-09-2007, 04:37 PM

He didn't seem slanted to either side during the vote. His anti-Mystique sentiment was in response to Alex agreeing with Lorna. But didn't he also bring up the fact that Rogue was a villain and she turned out okay?

Let's not forget the fact that she was the one that suggested that Gambit talk to her when she wakes up from her coma in Sinister's lab. She clearly suggested that he atone for his mistakes and be by her side.

So I don't believe her intent is to have Bobby hook up with Rogue.

Monty_Cristo

11-09-2007, 04:40 PM

Then why did she bother introducing Pulse into the mix when she herself was trying to get into the X-Men's good graces?

because she wants what's best for her daughter. she just happens to be a twisted over-controlling individual. Rogue rejected Pulse, so she has gone with plan B(obby).

Bobby was against allowing Mystique into the mansion. Then all of a sudden he had a change of heart when she's on Rogue's team. I don't get it. :confused:

bobby has, in the past, shown a connection with Rogue (he introduced her to his parents). he respects her and has been protective of her. maybe Raven picked up on that. i'm just speculating. but i think Mystique will die. i think she knows that she's going to die. and i think she knows that her death will probably draw Rogue and Bobby together (the conflicted daughter takes comfort in the arms of the conflicted "lover").

Monty_Cristo

11-09-2007, 04:44 PM

Let's not forget the fact that she was the one that suggested that Gambit talk to her when she wakes up from her coma in Sinister's lab. She clearly suggested that he atone for his mistakes and be by her side.

So I don't believe her intent is to have Bobby hook up with Rogue.

you could be right but i don't see what you've suggested as proof of anything. she has tried to break Rogue and Remy up. maybe she wants Gambit and Rogue to smooth things over, so Rogue can move on.

caney

11-09-2007, 04:46 PM

bobby has, in the past, shown a connection with Rogue (he introduced her to his parents). he respects her and has been protective of her. maybe Raven picked up on that. i'm just speculating. but i think Mystique will die. i think she knows that she's going to die. and i think she knows that her death will probably draw Rogue and Bobby together (the conflicted daughter takes comfort in the arms of the conflicted "lover").

Awwww that sounds so romantic!

In a twisted I screwed your adoptive mother and then she screwed me over but now she's dead and all we have is each other kind of way.

It's even more twisted if Mystique ends up dying by Rogue's touch.

Monty_Cristo

11-09-2007, 04:47 PM

Awwww that sounds so romantic!

In a twisted I screwed your adoptive mother and she screwed me but now she's dead and all we have is each other kind of way.

this is the X-men we're talking about. they are a seriously effed up soap opera!

claimtosubclaim

11-09-2007, 04:55 PM

oops. i meant to make a thread, not a post.

Hi-Fi

11-09-2007, 06:09 PM

Bobby was against allowing Mystique into the mansion. Then all of a sudden he had a change of heart when she's on Rogue's team. I don't get it. :confused:
Actually, Bobby was one of those who voted in favor of Mystique staying at the mansion. Rogue, Gambit and I think Logan were the only ones against it.

slugzilla

11-09-2007, 07:27 PM

the plan is to hook Bobby and Rogue up. i'm not kidding.

Thats what i'm also thinking. I've always wanted Rogue & Bobby together...So hopefully the plan is a success.

RoguishGurl

11-09-2007, 07:30 PM

*interrupts conversation* Rogue and Gambit forever!!! :D

But seriously, I like Bobby and Rogue as friends. And I was a big fan of Mystique and Bobby, until she betrayed them. A part of me is still hoping that Raven will come back to the good side and into Bobby's arms, but I'm not holding my breath.

caney

11-09-2007, 07:33 PM

Thats what i'm also thinking. I've always wanted Rogue & Bobby together...So hopefully the plan is a success.

I don't hate the pairing, but I really don't want to see Bobby in another love triangle. I love Polaris and Havok, but they made Bobby a jerk.

I really like your avatar, by the way. Now if only they'd get out there and beat up some Sentinels...

The_Bubblie

11-09-2007, 07:51 PM

I think their next meeting should involve Iceman stabbing Mystique in the heart with an icicle. Mystique will barely live and over time heal back up. She will also realize how deeply she wounded Bobby because he was willing to actually kill her. So in her own weird way of trying to make things up to him Mystique will sleep with him again (even if it means drugging him), get pregnant, and give birth to Iceman's child. She will then proceed to show up one day, drop off the little rug rat onto the mansion's footsteps with a note for Iceman, and then abandon yet again another child.

Monty_Cristo

11-09-2007, 07:53 PM

Omega Alpha

11-09-2007, 07:57 PM

that would just be the strangest/most shallow relationship ever. it would be worse than Emma and Scott.

Unlike Emma and Scott, which is great and makes sense for both characters, the relationship would be ridiculous. Even Bobby is smart enough to have realized the trouble he would have gotten himself into eventually and there is no way Mystique would be interested in someone like him.

slugzilla

11-09-2007, 09:16 PM

I don't hate the pairing, but I really don't want to see Bobby in another love triangle. I love Polaris and Havok, but they made Bobby a jerk.

I really like your avatar, by the way. Now if only they'd get out there and beat up some Sentinels...

I don't really want to see a love triangle either. But if a love triangle is the only way, I wouldn't really mind it all that much. I just want to see Roguey & Bob together. Of course the best scenario would be Bobby & Rogue getting together without any outside interference. That would be nice.

I like your avatar too. Always loved the Spider-friends.....

Hi-Fi

11-10-2007, 07:27 AM

Unlike Emma and Scott, which is great and makes sense for both characters, the relationship would be ridiculous.
Great? Relative. I dread the pairing.

Makes sense? It does for Emma, it's bizarre for Scott, in my opinion. Emma tortured and killed in the past.

DarthCyclopsRLZ

11-10-2007, 07:33 AM

Omega Alpha

11-10-2007, 07:36 AM

Hi-Fi

11-10-2007, 07:38 AM

Still, it doesn't quite compare to the Mystique situation. The cheese potential here is just insane. :D

Emma's been a good girl for YEARS before they got involved with each other. Also, she didn't become a good girl BECAUSE of said romantic involvement. ;)
But the Mystique stuff with Bobby was only sexual. Bobby even said while flirting with her that he knew he shouldn't, because she's umpresictable. Now Scott, he actually loves Emma.

Emma is a good girl today, sure, but that doesn't take away the fact that she was a murderous lunatic not so long ago, who even tried to kill Jean. And if you're gonna pull the "grey character" card, I can think of TONS of situations when Mystique helped Rogue and the X-Men and even saved the world. ;)

Hi-Fi

11-10-2007, 07:39 AM

And it's not like his wife had not murdered much more people than Emma;)
Well, not before she was abandoned to die by her hubbie. ;)

LOL. We're as snarky as Emma today!

DarthCyclopsRLZ

11-10-2007, 07:40 AM

But the Mystique stuff with Bobby was only sexual. Bobby even said while flirting with her that he knew he shouldn't, because she's umpresictable.

Oh, thought you were somewhat defending Bobby/Mystique thingy as an actual pairing. Nevermind. :D

DarthCyclopsRLZ

11-10-2007, 07:41 AM

And it's not like his wife had not murdered much more people than Emma;)

Exactly. Emma's small league when it comes to past evil compared to Red. BOTH OF THEM. :D

Hi-Fi

11-10-2007, 07:45 AM

Oh, thought you were somewhat defending Bobby/Mystique thingy as an actual pairing. Nevermind. :D
Er...no. Mystique is a raging lunatic.

DarthCyclopsRLZ

11-10-2007, 07:51 AM

Er...no. Mystique is a raging lunatic.

Exactly. And that's why we like her. :D

I'm still not pleased she didn't kill Bobby in 203. And keep in mind, I don't want Bobby dead. At all. I just don't think the scene should've happened.

Hi-Fi

11-10-2007, 07:54 AM

Exactly. And that's why we like her. :D

I'm still not pleased she didn't kill Bobby in 203. And keep in mind, I don't want Bobby dead. At all. I just don't think the scene should've happened.
I liked it. Even though Mystique is a crazy murderes, there ARE a *few* people in the world that she loves or respect (mainly Destiny, Rogue and maybe Forge). When Iceman said she was just rabid, you can see that she was hit hard by it. Maybe the fact that he "gets" her gave him a safe card.

ProfeZZor X

11-10-2007, 08:01 AM

Actually, Bobby was one of those who voted in favor of Mystique staying at the mansion. Rogue, Gambit and I think Logan were the only ones against it.

...Which in itself doesn't make sense because he was the main one opposed to
Juggernaut being there before her. And before that, he had that hissy-fit over everyone becoming an X-Man, just because they waited in the lobby for over an hour. :rolleyes:

DarthCyclopsRLZ

11-10-2007, 08:01 AM

I liked it. Even though Mystique is a crazy murderes, there ARE a *few* people in the world that she loves or respect (mainly Destiny, Rogue and maybe Forge). When Iceman said she was just rabid, you can see that she was hit hard by it. Maybe the fact that he "gets" her gave him a safe card.

Meh, still don't buy she'd make that big of a difference between goody two shoes HEROES.

And funny you should point that out. Cyke "gets" Emma and he was amongst those who had it the worst (Kitty's a contender) in Torn. :D

mgs

11-10-2007, 08:09 AM

all good x-men romances end with someone getting killed. that is the soapopera that is the x-universe.

ProfeZZor X

11-10-2007, 08:11 AM

I liked it. Even though Mystique is a crazy murderes, there ARE a *few* people in the world that she loves or respect (mainly Destiny, Rogue and maybe Forge). When Iceman said she was just rabid, you can see that she was hit hard by it. Maybe the fact that he "gets" her gave him a safe card.

My exact thoughts too. But you can't help but to wonder if a small part of that intimacy they shared was something she also wanted.

DarthCyclopsRLZ

11-10-2007, 08:14 AM

all good x-men romances end with someone getting killed. that is the soapopera that is the x-universe.

Now that's unfair.

EVERY comic book is basically a soap opera with smackdowns in-between.

ProfeZZor X

11-10-2007, 08:19 AM

Now that's unfair.

EVERY comic book is basically a soap opera with smackdowns in-between.

What we haven't had in a long time is a hardcore, three-way love triangle, where someone gets hurt.

Super Ice Saiyan

11-10-2007, 08:31 AM

The way I feel about their relationship is that it is a respectable one. Eventhough she has some trust and care for Bobby, that didn't stop her from getting her mission accomplished which was get Rogue to Sinister so he can get the information of the diaries and maybe solve her physical contact problem. I believe the reason see didn't kill Bobby is because as mentioned before he is the big threat to the mauraders. If Sinister tries to screw Mystique over maybe she still has a plan for Iceman to save her before any real damage is caused to Rogue.