World War Hulk Gamma Corps #4 review

[Kevinroc]

So basically Ryker has his men stick something in the Hulk's head that allows him to communicate directly with the Hulk. Ryker talks about how he has experimented on a lot of people but they all died. He keeps getting volunteers because everyone wants a piece of the Hulk and gives a brief synopsis about the Gamma Corps and gives a clue as to his present location. When Mess gets tired of waiting for Ryker to take Hulk away, she removes the object in Hulk's head and prepares to kill him. Hulk recovers quickly and defeats her. Mess begs Hulk to kill him but Hulk doesn't.

Hulk leaps away to find Ryker. The Gamma Corps follow and Hulk defeats them physically and psychologically. (Except for Griffin. Hulk has no pity for him.) Gideon realizes Hulk is right about Ryker and that they had transferred their anger (as Hulk correctly points out Jim died of AIDS and that isn't his fault).

Ryker calls his SHIELD contact for help only to discover SHIELD has arrested him. Ryker curses the fact that he has failed to capture the Hulk again as the walls come crumbling down. Before Hulk leaves, Gideon tries to ask Hulk if he has misplaced his own anger against the Illuminati.

A few days later Prodigy shows Mess a video of the Abomination throwing the vehicle that killed her son. He also discovered his mom did heroin while she was pregnant with him. The group decide what their next mission should be as they look at pictures of Iron Man, Mr. Fantastic, Dr. Strange and Black Bolt. They have new targets now...

(And for the record, I don't expect to see these characters again anytime soon.)

So there ya go. For all this talk about how this was going to be the book that painted Hulk in a bad light, it really doesn't.

[Shai Hulud]

so hulk heals super fast from his broken neck?

[Kevinroc]

so hulk heals super fast from his broken neck?

Yeah. They thought he'd never be able to walk again but he was up and about pretty damned quickly.

[The Cool Thatguy]

Yeah. They thought he'd never be able to walk again but he was up and about pretty damned quickly.

Not like it's the first time, after all.

[Drdmx]

I think it would be very badass to see Gamma corps go after the Illuminatti systematically. Like The Hulks own private hit squad.

[CMBMOOL]

The more "gamma Friends" that the Hulk can get the better. :D

I can't wait to see if the Gamma Corps would meet up with the Warbound or the She-Hulk or even the Renegades all who just want to help the Hulk against the "evil" Illuminati. :D

[Dirkner]

I'll start off by saying I do like the corps and hope to see them again somewhere down the line. The team could be used here and there in the MU pretty easy.

Thats being said, I will have to say I was let down by the ending of this one. After the end of the third the corps was looking pretty good. I just really don't like that this one just went after school special in this last issue. Its true that Riker was pretty nasty to do what he did, but still I didn't really feel the whole change of all their training in the matter of second. I would much rather have had them get beat down while he was giving their speech and then go confront Riker instead of the way it was done.

Oh well, what can ya do.

Whole Mini - 6.5/10 (Decent read, but not really needed)
Last issue - 4.5/10

[Omega Alpha]

I was disappointed by this last issue. I felt the "conversion" of those people to the Hulk's side was too quick and after a little talk from the Hulk only, which was disappointing. It would have been better if they found out for themselves.

[beetheb]

I think it would be very badass to see Gamma corps go after the Illuminatti systematically. Like The Hulks own private hit squad.Yeah, but they turned on Ryker pretty damn quick. Snapped out of decades of Brainwash because of a few one-liners by Hulk...I dunno, it seemed a little contrived.

That said, I love the idea of the GC going after the Illuminati (one at a time, of course) provided we have a slightly better artist (all due respect) that can really flesh these characters out.

[Tusko]

The Hulk shouldn't be about compelling arguments. He's brutally right (correct). He's not Captain America inspiring people to take his side.

I found this issue disappointing. These characters were needless and I don't see them adding a lot to the Hulk story and while there was a fun element to it, look at the mutant problem in X-men. The Hulk doesn't need more gamma powered characters in his universe.

[thronzeblast]

I was disappointed by this last issue. I felt the "conversion" of those people to the Hulk's side was too quick and after a little talk from the Hulk only, which was disappointing. It would have been better if they found out for themselves.

I agree what the hell these guys have been waiting forever to have there revenge hulk has a talk with them and just like that there convinced everything just felt so rushed.

[Drdmx]

You know, I totally understand, and actually agree about the timeline thing, but I think you guys are that are complaining about it lost perspective from a real life standpoint. I'm sure that atm, Gamma Corps is only slated to be released during the WWH mini, and its a 4 part limited series... maybe to test the water on a reception for the group.

However... it is only 4 issues, so I'm sure they couldnt go into some long drawn out storyline spanning 9-12 issues of how Ryker is slowly exposed to be a bad guy and they come out of their brain washed mentality. That being said, who in their right mind, once they saw Grey was Talbots brother, and Gideon Jim Wilsons father, seriously did NOT expect that the Hulk would make them see that they've become what they hate the most?

I realize that realistically this is not fathomable, (the whole coming out of years of training in one issue), but lets not lose perspective that this is just a comic book. Its really not that big of a deal...

[CheekyFlip]

I'm more than a little confused right now.
I mean this book was a major disappointment. Can someone please explain to me WHY of why are the coprs going after the illuminati?

[Magneto Rocks]

Hulk giving a lecture on misplaced anger is somewhat akin to Doctor Doom giving a lecture on "How to manage one's ego"

[dabig2]

I'm more than a little confused right now.
I mean this book was a major disappointment. Can someone please explain to me WHY of why are the coprs going after the illuminati?

Guess we'll find out next week.

One page we have Gideon saying to the Hulk how his own anger against the Illuminati is misplaced and how he should let it go. Then a couple pages later, which is after WWH ends because it skips forward 4 days, now has Gideon and the entire crew going after the same guys. A complete 180.

So...something happens or is revealed (or not revealed....) in WWH 5 to get the Illuminati on their hit list. Otherwise Gideon's turnaround makes no sense. I can think of a couple scenarios, but I'd rather just wait 6 more days.

[Hulk Strongest One]

so hulk heals super fast from his broken neck?

Given Zom-Strange blasted a foot-wide hole completely through Hulk's chest, destroing a full foot of spinal column, and the Hulk was up and fighting within 30 seconds at most, a broken neck ain't no thang. :)

[jackolover]

I agree what the hell these guys have been waiting forever to have there revenge hulk has a talk with them and just like that there convinced everything just felt so rushed.

I agree with what everyone said that this issue was rushed and unsatisfying. It felt like there was supposed to be 5 issues, and they cut it to 4 so they had to write the ending in a hurry.

Nevertheless, I do feel we have a new team formed. They're bad guys, like the Wrecking Crew, at the moment. But if Amadeus Cho ever gets a hold of them, they could end up pacified and in the Hulk compound that is being formed. If not, then there will be a new FF villians group, soon.

I like each of these guys back story, but the Grey is a real psycho, and if he calls the tunes in this group, then they will be rolling around from one fight to the next, on some ridiculous mission of vengence that the Hulk set them on. So even though Gamma Corp were straightened out by some of Hulks logic, there is still room enough for this group to be headache for the Initiative. Hulk just may have turned this group into a misdirected vengence squad, and then Banner REALLY will be guilty of setting destructive forces loose on the community, where previously he wasn't.

I think the brainy kid was listening in on Rikers voice in Hulks head, and that's how he figured that there were no other Gamma squads around except them.

This has been a nice idea, and the characters that make up the group have become an interesting bunch. How will they reconcile the differences between Grey and Rhodes? One is a maniac, and the other seems to have regained some sense of balance again. So has the brainiac kid. The woman seems less intent on any more destruction, but the hurt she feels may be used against her, and she could be convinced to attack the Illuminati. The Griffin disappointed me the most , because he had no centre stage battle of wits with the Hulk like the others did. I really wanted the clowns sick sense of humor to come out. He is another one that will be a destructive force, without any pushing. I would want him to be a loner combatant, and hope they throw him off the team.

[Archmage]

Hulk just may have turned this group into a misdirected vengence squad, and then Banner REALLY will be guilty of setting destructive forces loose on the community, where previously he wasn't.



I haven't read the issue yet, but based on the synopsis given, how can you attribute their misdirected goals to Hulk? All he did was say, don't blame me...I wasn't responsible for your problems... that they decided to go after other people is not his problem...


If a guy wants to shoot me and I tell the shooter to not shoot me...and then the shooter shoots ten other people, would I be at fault? No.

Correct me if I am wrong in the assumption that Hulk didn't specifically name names and point fingers for them to go after.

[jackolover]

Correct me if I am wrong in the assumption that Hulk didn't specifically name names and point fingers for them to go after.

Hulk did name names to the Gamma Corp specifically stating that the Illuminati were the ones who killed Sakaar and put Hulk on the road to this rampage. That IS telling GC who to go after next. In fact, in feels much like Planet Hulk #105, when the Warbound decided who they had to go after first.

[DoctorDoom]

Hulk giving a lecture on misplaced anger is somewhat akin to Doctor Doom giving a lecture on "How to manage one's ego"
Hey! Doom would be an excellent teacher!

[Jack-o-Lantern]

You know I really like this team lot. I also feel that the last issue was rushed to finish up with WWH. Ain't it funny WWH is running behind.:D

1. Mess is an excellent chartacter. I see her in the long run becoming a loner like Elektra or even being liked enough to sometimes run in with the Avengers.

2. Prodigy is also really cool. He has alot of sense and I find him having a hard time being a villian, but too afraid to speak up. I see him sticking around though since he never really had a family.

3. Gideon seems like he will be the mind of reasoning.

4 Griffin the group Deadpool

5. Grey, well I really don't know what to think of him?

Anyone have any ideas about Grey?

[Archmage]

Hulk did name names to the Gamma Corp specifically stating that the Illuminati were the ones who killed Sakaar and put Hulk on the road to this rampage. That IS telling GC who to go after next. In fact, in feels much like Planet Hulk #105, when the Warbound decided who they had to go after first.


And unless I'm reading this wrong, hulk only named names regarding himself and what the illuminati did to him. He didn't tell them to go after the illuminati for hulk. He was not responsible for their actions.

How can anyone attribute their decision to go after the illuminati to him?

Just because he mentioned that he is after them. Sounds very weak.

[jackolover]

And unless I'm reading this wrong, hulk only named names regarding himself and what the illuminati did to him. He didn't tell them to go after the illuminati for hulk. He was not responsible for their actions.

How can anyone attribute their decision to go after the illuminati to him?

Just because he mentioned that he is after them. Sounds very weak.

I agree, it does sound very weak. I'm thinking these Gamma Corp guys are not the full two bob.

That maybe Grey is taking too many things on board, by taking on Hulks injustices on the group, for some convoluted reason, because, if the Illuminati targeted Hulk wrongly, then the GC have to right that wrong, maybe, because the GC wrongly accused the Hulk, as well. Oh, Brother, does anyone even follow that?

[Drdmx]

Sort of...

What you said brings a thought to mind. Even though it wasnt a big cross over with high impact, didnt the mini with the Ghostrider seem to clarify the Illuminattis guilt?

Didnt Ghost Rider judge Hulk and ultimately walk away from the fight? When explaining Ghost Riders actions, didnt Strange himself admit that they were guilty in the way they handeled the Hulk? Just wondering...

[jackolover]

Sort of...

What you said brings a thought to mind. Even though it wasnt a big cross over with high impact, didnt the mini with the Ghostrider seem to clarify the Illuminattis guilt?

Didnt Ghost Rider judge Hulk and ultimately walk away from the fight? When explaining Ghost Riders actions, didnt Strange himself admit that they were guilty in the way they handeled the Hulk? Just wondering...

Yes, the Ghost Rider mini did show that.

[matthewaos]

Generally I like Tiery's writing. This wasn't the best comic book I have ever read, but I kind of liked the characters in the last issue, although it seemed a little rushed. They can be used again and add more layers in their character. I really DIDN'T like the art, especially in the last issue, which it also seemed rushed. It's anyone guess where we will see those guys again...