Round 4: Public Comment Thread (Everyone else please post here!)

[J. Torres]

Here we go...

[Caio Oliveira]

Very, very nice work Reed! Really loved the giant robot! :D

[polystyleneman]

Very, very nice work Reed! Really loved the giant robot! :D

Reed is back! I was never sure about his round three submission, but I really like his efforts this time around!

[The Armando]

Yeah, Jon, these pages are terrific! Two and four specially are winners. Looks like finally you're in your element!

[radunga]

Reed´s work was nice. I didn´t like the last page though. I think it wasn´t impacting enough.

[Reed]

Thanks guys,

"the Armando"!!

Hey he's back! Check out his portfolio. He was in my top ten easy.

[Fodaum]

Very, very nice work Reed! Really loved the giant robot! :D

Reed... I definitively admire your work... and this giant Robot... man, is very good.

Fudedor mesmo.:D

Good Luck.

and, sorry my english again.

[Muddy Waters]

In round 3 Reed’s submission was my least preferred. Those pages of round 4 were a real improvement. The storytelling is fine, visual is ok. I liked page 2 a lot. But I think still there’s room for improvement though. His alien child looks too old. Page four lacks impact. The bunch of legionaries in the center could use some more variation in their positions. Anyway, it’s a solid effort. Congrats, Jon. I give a 7 score.

[cg_maniac]

Good work this round, Jon! I agree the last page could have more impact, but the robot and alien design definitely has me seeing your potential.

Even if you don't make it through this round (highly likely due to the fan base of Oliviera and Wilson), keep churning out those pages and it'll happen.

[Reed]

Yeah,

I knew I should've had them coming at us. I was going to do a second version of page 4 that was less static, then decided to roll with what I had. I just wanted to incorporate the background.

O.K., no more excuses.

[mightyfineline]

Great work Jon - That Giant Robot on Page Two is badass! And let's not forget, 4 pages - first one to post... not too shabby.

[Gonzogoose]

Jon's is cool, but I like Dan's a bit better storytelling wise. I do like Jon's last page better than Dan's though. Can't wait to see what the other two have in store!

[Jay Figgs]

Wow, Dan McDaid's pages are awesome - Anyone else think his style is perfectly suited for the Legion?
Jon Reed's pages are good, too, but I think his kid doesn't look like a kid at all, which is kind of distracting, IMHO.

[Muddy Waters]

Great job, Dan. Impressive visuals, very stylish. As Reed’s submission, page 2 is specially good. If I’m allowed some minor nitpicking, I would say that some polishing is needed here and there. Page 4 specially seems a bit rushed. For example, Karate Kid’s foot looks too big, even accounting the perspective. A little more of backgrounds would be nice, too. But to fully drawn and ink four pages in three days was very impressive. Congrats, man. I give it a 8.

[Reed]

For me. This contest was about reaching out to editors. With the lack of any editor being there with regards to the assignments you can/have to take things in many different directions (and subsequently get bit in the ass via a critique for things that would have been wiped away by a simple e-mail or conversation with an editor).

So in my effort to reach out to hiring editors I could have done one of two things. Made the alien look like a small child and keep true to the script (or at least what I THOUGHT the script was asking for.....again, no editor to confirm) which would limit my ability to show off my draftsmanship chops. OR I could make the alien a preteen/teenager and show some cool linework and beef up the anatomy (something my last round lacked).

OK...THAT was my last excuse.

[Steev]

Nice pages by Reed. My favorite of his thus far.

Good job, man! :)

[Eder]

Wow, Dan McDaid's pages are awesome - Anyone else think his style is perfectly suited for the Legion?
Jon Reed's pages are good, too, but I think his kid doesn't look like a kid at all, which is kind of distracting, IMHO.

I liked Dan McDaid´s pages too. :D

But I didn´t like Jon Reed´s. One of worsts drawings of the legionaires that I ever saw. What´s that Lightning Lad?:eek:

[Patrick Zircher]

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[armandoB]

nice job, guys!

[jpolacek]

Oh wow. Everybody really stepped up their game this round!

[AdamWalmsley]

I know the guy so I don't know how unbiased this opinion is, but holy bananas, Charles killed those pages.

[Shade]

You are on the money....Wilson rocked that out of the park!!! I'm ready to buy the rest of that issue!!

[kalorama]

I know the guy so I don't know how unbiased this opinion is, but holy bananas, Charles killed those pages.

I don't know him from a hole in the ground, but I concur. It's a strong comeback after last round when his work didn't seem up to previous standards. The shots of Saturn Girl in the last two panels of page three are great.

But, credit where credit's due, all of the remaining contestants really brought it this round. (Oliveira's work has a Rick Leonardi vibe that I really like.) This is going to be a helluva tough vote.

[Muddy Waters]

CPW3 page are up. Loved pages 1-3, a lot of drama going on. I think he done better than Reed and Mcdaid. But once again I didn’t enjoyed page 4. The composition seems a little odd. I think alien boy should be looking at the heroes. Some minor anatomy issues too, like Supergirl hands. IMHO this is the second best work form Wilson, only toped by his terrific round 2 submission. Scores a 8,5.

[Brandon Hanvey]

All the contests art for Round 4 is up.

[Eder]

Congratulations, Charles Paul Wilson III. Your pages are beautiful. You can make Legion Of Super-Heroes ongoing anytime!!!:D

[Mateus]

Amazing work from CPW and Caio, they're probably making it to the final round and there's no doubt their work here was the best.

Also liked Reed, he finally showed us that he deserves to be in this competition. McDaid's was disappointing this time.

[Jay Figgs]

CPW3 page are up. Loved pages 1-3, a lot of drama going on. I think he done better than Reed and Mcdaid. But once again I didn’t enjoyed page 4. The composition seems a little odd. I think alien boy should be looking at the heroes. Some minor anatomy issues too, like Supergirl hands. IMHO this is the second best work form Wilson, only toped by his terrific round 2 submission. Scores a 8,5.

I agree that page 4 is his weakest - IMHO, it has some problems regarding composition, anatomy and, mainly, proportion. The way Chamaleon Boy was placed, with Cham's foot seemingly touching Cosmic's chest, it looks like Colossal Boy and Cosmic Boy have the same height, and Chamaleon is a Shrinking Violet-sized character. THe scene of the giant robot destroying the city rocks, though!

I love Caio's pages - His linework is his greatest strenght this round, and I think his last page has just the right balance between fine line and blacks. Great, great work.

[Patrick Zircher]

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[Goyo]

Everybody seems to be making a great effort to make it to the final round. Congratulations everybody, it was definetly a lot of work for such a killing deadline.

John Reed - I really really think THIS is your natural habitat. Sci-fi suits perfectly your style. I don't know why, your pages reminded me some 2000aD "progs". I have to agree with the ones who say your alien kid seems a little old, but hey, he's an alien! Alright, maybe if you gave him bigger eyes we would immediately assume it's a kid. Anyway, great job - in my opinion your best job here at CBI.

Dan McDaid - loved your stuff, though it seems a little drafty to me. Maybe if you had more time you would be able to do a better job, or at least a more detailed job. I was expecting more of your splash page, but I must confess I was a little disappointed with it.

CPWIII - I liked your work here, though for me it lacks a certain impact. It's all perfectly drawn, but something is missing for me. Your work doesn't show too much action as the script (in my opinion) asked for. Anyway, great job, you definetly have a carreer waiting for you around the corner.

Caio Oliveira - I really admire your "cool" style. The page with the multitude running away from the robot was awesome! Great thing for you to make a "multi-species" planet, instead of just puting one alien race on the pages, it definetly showed how varied your characters can be. Great last page, though I feel there are too many Legionaires there... I guess you could do without 4 or 5 characters to create a bigger impact.

My favourite works are, in order:

Caio Oliveira
John Reed
Dan McDaid
CPWIII

[Boogie]

Correct me if I'm wrong,and sorry to nit-pick, but i believe McDaid is the only one who actually drew some Legion Flight Rings on a few of the characters. This is a defining symbol of the Legion for me...

I also think Reed drew the alien too old, no matter what his excuse is, i think it distracts from the story. The script didn't push for a lot of little details, so the ones that were given, i think you should have followed. This is a great showcase for your talent, and yes, you are very talented, but when you go off script to show off your skills to potential editors, it makes me feel like you don't care about this contest, and therefore, will never get my vote, no matter how great your pages may look.

I think I may stay with CPW3 for the fourth time in a row, though McDaid did an excellent job as well. In the end, i hope those two go on.

[Dan M]

Dan McDaid - loved your stuff, though it seems a little drafty to me. Maybe if you had more time you would be able to do a better job, or at least a more detailed job. I was expecting more of your splash page, but I must confess I was a little disappointed with it...



Hey Goyo, thanks as always for the intelligent, considered crit. I don't have much to add to it, except to say that even if I'd had a month to do these pages, they would have come out the same. That "drafty" style is one I kinda like: fluid, slightly rough and ready but always, always clear. Actually, I'm looking for ways to pare the style down even further, minimize the clutter as much as I can.

Anyway, cheers - and thanks to everyone who liked my work (Patrick Zircher, you made my day!) :)

[jpolacek]

I'm giving the nod to CPW this round. His storytelling is always top notch, and his pages have real emotion to them. And his page 4 was the most iconic of the entries.

[Dan M]

Best Legion: CPWIII
Best crowds: Caio
Best robot: Jon Reed
Best Dan McDaid: Dan McDaid

That's my take on it.

[armandoB]

just noticed the Saiyan (Saiya-jin) in Caio's page 2 :D
nice touch

[Steev]

I'm giving the nod to CPW this round. His storytelling is always top notch, and his pages have real emotion to them. And his page 4 was the most iconic of the entries.
CPW also kept up that sense of devastation and destruction all the way to the end better than the others IMO. Made the situation seem more dramatic and desperate.

[Caio Oliveira]

just noticed the Saiyan (Saiya-jin) in Caio's page 2 :D
nice touch

Congratulations. You have find the first special guest in the pages. There is another ones. Good luck chasing them. :D

[kalorama]

CPW also kept up that sense of devastation and destruction all the way to the end better than the others IMO. Made the situation seem more dramatic and desperate.

I concur. His shots of the robot decimating the city have some real impact.

Extra credit to McDaid for including Matter Eater Lad.

[Muddy Waters]

Last but no least, Caio Oliveira. As much as I loved Caio’s artwork in round 3, this is even better. Very dynamic pages, with a lot of sense of movement. Great work on the expressions. Four fully inked pages with that amount of detail was amazing. Page 4 feels a bit overcrowded and static though, but I liked it better than the other contestants, as I don’t feel anybody really hit the nail with that one. Scores a solid 9. Congrats.

[Eder]

Congratulations to Caio for showing several different aliens races in your pages. Nice touch!:)

[Goyo]

Congratulations. You have find the first special guest in the pages. There is another ones. Good luck chasing them. :D

I found Spielberg's ET in first page and Alf in page 2.

The guy in the "MBB car" with a T-shirts reading Zed on it, would it be a self-portrait???

[kalorama]

Correct me if I'm wrong,and sorry to nit-pick, but i believe McDaid is the only one who actually drew some Legion Flight Rings on a few of the characters. This is a defining symbol of the Legion for me...

Actually, you can clearly see the ring on Saturn Girl on panel 7 of page 3 in CPW III's pages. Also, if you look closely at Cosmic Boy's right hand on page 4, he's also wearing a ring. With the exception of Supergirl, you can't really see any of the other hands clearly enough to tell, one way or the other.

[Nick Pitarra]

Great work guys! This is going to be close!

~nick

[rienji]

LOL!!!! Zed put Toe Jam and Earl on the page 2... Alf too... Vegeta too... and himself!!!! LMAO!!!!

[Caio Oliveira]

I found Spielberg's ET in first page and Alf in page 2.

The guy in the "MBB car" with a T-shirts reading Zed on it, would it be a self-portrait???

Ding. Ding. Ding. Three points!

Oh, you kiddos will never dig it, but the drivers of that "MBB car" are "Toe Jam & Earl". The characters of the best game EVER!! :D

[shwa96]

Congratulations to Caio for showing several different aliens races in your pages. Nice touch!:)

To me, that was a detriment.

While it was mildly entertaining to see Alf, Elvis, a DBZ character, and Caio himself in the backgrounds, it distracted from the story. Even when I wasn't focused on the recognizable easter egg characters, having such a variety of characters lessened the impact of the scene for me. For me, the destruction of a home planet (what we would assume if it was a homogeneous alien race) is of larger importance than the destruction of some general city. That's not anyone's home, really, so I don't care quite as much.

[sjpress]

CPWIII, you drew some amazing cityscapes and robot action! I really had an easy time following the story and keeping my eye on the alien boy in all the ruckus. I dug the Saturn girl introduction, and i think you gave the last page a real feeling of anticipatory hope for the city (it's a feeling...i swear!) Super great job!

[Eder]

To me, that was a detriment.

While it was mildly entertaining to see Alf, Elvis, a DBZ character, and Caio himself in the backgrounds, it distracted from the story. Even when I wasn't focused on the recognizable easter egg characters, having such a variety of characters lessened the impact of the scene for me. For me, the destruction of a home planet (what we would assume if it was a homogeneous alien race) is of larger importance than the destruction of some general city. That's not anyone's home, really, so I don't care quite as much.

This can be 31th Century Earth with all its population diversity.:rolleyes:

[Goyo]

For me, the destruction of a home planet (what we would assume if it was a homogeneous alien race) is of larger importance than the destruction of some general city. That's not anyone's home, really, so I don't care quite as much.

The way I see it, the largest cities in our planet have people from different places in the world living in them.

I guess this city shown by Caio is some sort of an interplanetary New York or London, since it has "people" from different races and species living there.

To me, a city portraiting the same race would give an impression that it's a small city in a small planet, small enough for not being attractive to any other foreign "alien race" to go there and make it their homes.

Anyway, all 4 contestants showed big time destruction, and we can see in all entries people running around desperately, so I guess everyone did good with this detail.

[Gonzogoose]

Wow, okay, Dan's is still awesome, but for me, CPW took this one hands down! Beautiful detail work, great storytelling, and awesome splash page!

Caio did a great job too (as you all did), and while the cameos are nice, his pages feel to busy to me personally.

For me, I like them in this order:

CPW
Dan
Caio
Reed

Just my opinion.

But regardless of my opinion, I think it'll be CPW and Caio in the finals...

[Chris Ring]

Way to step it up guys, EVERYONE! A lot more to love than to nit pick at so not even gonna go there. Damn impressive! :)

www.chrisringart.com
www.t5design.com
www.93cobra.deviantart.com

[joelcook]

Congratulations to Caio for showing several different aliens races in your pages. Nice touch!:)

I agree... this is one of the things that makes reading comics fun.... taking what the writer did, and expanding on the story. Did the script call for an homogeneous alien population?

I don't think it took away from the story at all...

[tPOV]

This round is going to be much harder to choose, and that's a nice problem to have. :)

Very nice pages from all. I'm looking forward to reading the judges' comments.

[ChicoBarney]

I would love to read a comic drawn by Caio THE ZED Oliveira. Nice work.

The other contestants are great this round either, congratulations.

[TuPeT]

Great arts. I like McDaid a lot again, "C3PO" made a hell of a job and Caio showed again a fabulous work. I didnt disliked Reed's work, but Pitarra was way better in the past round and this one reflects it, with 3 great jobs and one not so good as the others.

It's going to be really hard to choose.

[The Armando]

Now looking at all the entries, everybody's work is stellar. Each one shine at something; to me, for example, Jon has the best giant robot, Dan the best alien kid, CPW the best city and Caio the best group shot in the final page. Now it's really all a matter of which style you like the most. I'll vote for Jon or Dan, whoever needs the vote the most.

Congratulations!

[kymaera]

My thoughts:

Oliveira:
+ The setting was very nicely done. The varied aliens were a good touch and I liked the robot designs.
+ I thought the child alien was great. Had that aura of innocence.
- I didn't like your Legion characters. They all seemed too short and stocky. It was also compounded by the fact that most of the characters in the last splash were in slight variations of the same pose...the tensing up knees bent one.
- Unless I'm mistaken, it also seems like the splash might have had some inconsistencies in using characters from different versions of the Legion as well as some goofy random characters.

Wilson:
+ That last splash was great! I liked the from the side view with a variety in standing and flying.
+ The robot was very menacing and definitely had a sense of drama in the setup.
- Some of the flow on page three was a bit weak. It's a little confusing and I think using fewer panels to showcase others would have been better. For example, I don't think four was needed as the menace was already established. And five and six were a bit redundant...I think six could've stood alone.
- I think showing more aliens around would have been effective and increased the drama. The city seems way too sparsely populated.

McDaid
+ The scenery and alien really seemed to channel the Giffen era of the Legion to me. Very well done.
+ I liked the comical "staring into the barrel of the gun" shot.
- The last splash page didn't seem very cohesive. I didn't get the feeling that these characters were all really together and interacting. It felt more like colorforms stuck together.

Reed
+ I liked the futuristic city and the giant robot.
- The characters look way too old. The child alien doesn't look like a child at all. The legions don't look like teens/early adults. In page three, Saturn Girl looks sinister and the child's expressions are hard to read. It almost seems afraid of her and what's behind her.
- Page two: the alien looks like he's running into the explosion in panel four.
- You squeezed parts of page three in the script into page two and drew out the standing up scene in page three which I think weakened things. Using page two more fully to build up the drama would've been more effective.

Conclusions:
+ I think everyone did a great job on the setting and the robot. Any of them would have worked well.
+ Wilson, however, had the one shot of the Legion that was the most effective and which I looked at and said "Yes! THAT is the Legion!". He'll be getting my vote in this round.
- If I had to pick someone to vote off, it would be Reed. The assignment didn't mesh well with his style.
= It would be difficult to pick a number 2 and 3 between Oliveira and McDaid. Oliveira did a great job with the setting, but I didn't like his Legion. McDaid did a good job with the setting and the Legion was ok, though not in a layout that appealed to me.

[MartinRedmond]

Jon Reed did the best comic.

[BoosterBronze]

I'm torn between Dan and Jon Reed.

Jon Reed has great aleins, my favorite robot shot, and I think the best shot of the Legion about to jump into action.

I really like Dan's style in general, I think his sweet alien kid is really sympathtic, and I love that Saturn Girl catches the ball, but I am just not loving that group shot. What are they doing? What is Karate Kid kicking at, what is MatterEater Lad eating, and where is Timberwolf falling from? I don't get any excitiment from that last image, which is a pity since I think his first three pages were the most fun from any of the artists this round.

[shwa96]

This can be 31th Century Earth with all its population diversity.:rolleyes:

It "can be" anything. The question is, what can it be that is most effective?

And "Where's Waldo of the 31st Century" is not the answer.

[Jay Figgs]

It "can be" anything. The question is, what can it be that is most effective?

And "Where's Waldo of the 31st Century" is not the answer.


Not to you, anyway.

[kalorama]

Jon Reed has great aleins, my favorite robot shot, and I think the best shot of the Legion about to jump into action..

I'm with you on the group shot. It's got some real tension in it. More than any of the other contestants, you really get the impression that the Legion is about to jump into a fight.

[shwa96]

Not to you, anyway.

I doubt I'm the only one who thinks it was a mistake.

At the most basic level, the question is this: what did you spend more time looking at in those panels, the kid who is the focus of the story or the people around him?

[Brandon Hanvey]

I should have the group collage up by late this afternoon PST.

[Muddy Waters]

It "can be" anything. The question is, what can it be that is most effective?

And "Where's Waldo of the 31st Century" is not the answer.

Well, it wasn’t against the script guidelines, so it was entirely up to the artist. That being the case, Caio’s showed his abilities in designing a variety of aliens. If the home-planet concept was important in plot terms, the writer should have established that. My opinion only.

[Caio Oliveira]

I doubt I'm the only one who thinks it was a mistake.

At the most basic level, the question is this: what did you spend more time looking at in those panels, the kid who is the focus of the story or the people around him?

The kid. I just put a lot of different alien species and all that "extra stuff" or "ester eggs" because it was fun to draw. Simple as that. Sorry if take your attention away.

[AzIz]

I doubt I'm the only one who thinks it was a mistake.

At the most basic level, the question is this: what did you spend more time looking at in those panels, the kid who is the focus of the story or the people around him?

The kid was the focus. I had to look for vegetta or whoever, I dont know why yourre making it seem the BG people got all the attention. They didnt.

[shwa96]

Well, it wasn’t against the script guidelines, so it was entirely up to the artist. That being the case, Caio’s showed his abilities in designing a variety of aliens. If the home-planet concept was important in plot terms, the writer should have established that. My opinion only.

I never said it was against the script. The home planet issue is just my personal preference.

The issue of easter egg characters, however, is a different matter. It is a distraction, and no one can argue that it isn't. Even if you like it, you have to admit that it's a distraction, because if you like it, you like it because you enjoyed taking the time away from the story to look for them. By definition, that's a distraction from the story. Some people may consider that a good thing, but as someone more concerned with the story, I consider it a mistake.

[shwa96]

The kid was the focus. I had to look for vegetta or whoever, I dont know why yourre making it seem the BG people got all the attention. They didnt.

You just proved my point. You had to stop and take your attention away from the story to look for it. That's all I'm saying.

[shwa96]

The kid was the focus. I had to look for vegetta or whoever, I dont know why yourre making it seem the BG people got all the attention. They didnt.

And you didn't answer my question. I said the kid was the focus of the story. I ASKED what you spent more time looking at. Clearly it was the backgrounds.

[AzIz]

You just proved my point. You had to stop and take your attention away from the story to look for it. That's all I'm saying.

I didnt notice them at first. I went through the pages first then went back and looked at the different races. More bang for my buck, IMO.

[shwa96]

I didnt notice them at first. I went through the pages first then went back and looked at the different races. More bang for my buck, IMO.

Fair enough.

[Rilyth]

Guys, this time I´m in doubt about with one (Caio or Charles Paul Wilson III ) will recive my vote! Charles' work looks like one of the " inumanos" magazines that once I saw! and I really like this kind of "shadows work" but on the other hand Caio's creativity is my favourity style of comics! but the special thing about Caio's in this round is the last page! man I was astonish when I saw it! man......I don't know how to express it in words.... Ok I think I've already decided Who´s gonna be my chosen one!
See you guys!:p

[joelcook]

At the most basic level, the question is this: what did you spend more time looking at in those panels, the kid who is the focus of the story or the people around him?

to be honest, I saw everyone had posted their pages and looked at them all....

it wasnt until I got to the forum and read the posts, that I went back and found all the characters in Caio's piece...

Maybe I should give opinions on all of them.

[Brandon Hanvey]

All in one. I'm not sure if the vertical works or not. I may switch it to the horizontal.

http://brainiac.boilingpoint.com/~cbi3/brandoncbi/cbir4all.jpg

[Gene Frenkle]

Nice stuff this week. Even Reed reedemed (sorry for the pun) himself this week after a really weak one.
I´m not too familiar with the Legion, so it´s hard for me to judge based on the characters. Everyone this week have some ups and downs. It wiil be very difficult to vote.

[shwa96]

All in one. I'm not sure if the vertical works or not. I may switch it to the horizontal.

I like the vertical. Makes it easy to compare each artist page by page.

[Odinwolf]

I definitely don't think that Caio did a bad job, but I would say that for once, I wasn't blown away with what he did visually. This may have been his weakest entry into the competition. The weird, inset box on panel 1, page 2 was particularly distracting. It was like a weak attempt at bringing the focus of the panel back onto the center-piece of the script. It made that panel Fortunately for him, he's got enough fans that he's likely to go through anyway.

I liked the artwork from CPW3, but drawing the robot as bigger than the city really took the immediacy out of the threat to the alienboy. But if that's my biggest complaint, its clear he did a good job overall. I thought Reed's stuff was good, but the alien boy didn't look young enough, which tones down those feelings of compassion for him that you would hope the reader gets before the Legion shows up. His group shot was laid out better than anyone else's work, although I noticed some weird foreshortening/anatomy issues here and there.

Overall, I thought McDaid did the best this round. His alien child was childlike and evoked those feelings of sympathy. His group shot was solid and dynamic and everything he did was clean and fun. Even if he doesn't win this competition, I'm confident we'll be seeing his work in major publications very soon. He's clearly demonstrated the chops necessary to work in the industry.

[Monkey_King]

CPW3: man, you remind me a little of Bryan Hitch here! Your robot is awesome and i like your portrait of the kid alien(who looks like Martian Manhunter in his true form). The last page could use more legionnaires, though. Anyway, I like it!

Dan: huuuummm... didn't like this one. Sorry dude, bit it seems you were in a bit of a rush. A mix of Walt Simonson and DC Animated, but it didn't work out to me. I really like the scene when the robot points a gun to the kid. But I didn't like the kid at all. The splash page is the weakest. I didn't look for your other works to compare, so I can't judge you based on this... be patient next time, mate! :)

Reed: so-so. Your kid(the one you drawed, not your real kid lol :p ) doesn't look like a kid at all. The rest of the pages are too common, I don't see anything special at them... But it's only my opinion. I don't know about art, but I know what I like! :D

Caio: man, what a awesome work! Following the script, but always taking the gaps to keep your identity, as always! This is the caracteristic that separates regular workers from the artists! Really liked the variety of aliens! The where's waldo thing got me really interested in the details, and I'm the kind of guy who only looks to the story, not to the art! lol The last page could be better, if the poses were different and more dynamic, but the inclusion of the legionnaires created by Sergio Aragones were a nice touch!

You have my vote, dude!

[Mateus]

The issue of easter egg characters, however, is a different matter. It is a distraction, and no one can argue that it isn't. Even if you like it, you have to admit that it's a distraction, because if you like it, you like it because you enjoyed taking the time away from the story to look for them. By definition, that's a distraction from the story. Some people may consider that a good thing, but as someone more concerned with the story, I consider it a mistake.
I don't think it's a distraction, I read the four pages earlier and didn't even notice them, I notice there were a lot of different aliens but the focus was the kid, only when people started talking I went back to look for the easter eggs. This kind of stuff is pretty common on crowd scenes, and most people doesn't even notice them.

[Steev]

Caio's was really good but when I look at these entries I tend to think of them as if these were actual comic pages being turned in for print. Having said that, would he be able to get away with all the extra characters and "easter eggs"? Would it be a touchy subject for WB if one of their books had a character owned by someone else show up in the pages?
Art Adams used to put stuff like that in his crowd scenes so i wonder what the thought is on this.

[Monkey_King]

Caio's was really good but when I look at these entries I tend to think of them as if these were actual comic pages being turned in for print. Having said that, would he be able to get away with all the extra characters and "easter eggs"? Would it be a touchy subject for WB if one of their books had a character owned by someone else show up in the pages?
Art Adams used to put stuff like that in his crowd scenes so i wonder what the thought is on this.

IMHO, thinking what WB would think is a waste of time, since this is just a test. All the guys here are giving their best, but it not hurts to just have fun. Relax, dude! Life is tough and short! :D

[rpriske]

The differences in quality seemed quite obvious to me this time...but from other comments I am reminded that when it comes to art, what appeals to one might not appeal to the next.

For me it is McDaid as the best one, easily. Wilson was very good as well.

The other two, while I certainly wouldn't call them bad, fall significantly below these two, in my opinion.

I also didn't like the 'age' of the 'kid' in Reed's piece. For Ciao...I don't know really. I didn't like the faces. The background aliens that people are on about didn't bother me, otehr than saying that it seems like more time was put into those than the Legionaires themselves.

[kalorama]

All in one. I'm not sure if the vertical works or not. I may switch it to the horizontal.

I like the horizontal better. It's more natural to read each contestant's pages as a single narrative from left to right rather than top to bottom.

[kalorama]

I don't think it's a distraction, I read the four pages earlier and didn't even notice them, I notice there were a lot of different aliens but the focus was the kid, only when people started talking I went back to look for the easter eggs. This kind of stuff is pretty common on crowd scenes, and most people doesn't even notice them.

Agreed. I didn't even notice the "cameos" until other people pointed them out. It's not like he drew Alf jumping up and down behind the alien kid like a teenager in the background of a live news report. They were there if you wanted to pay attention to them. if not, you could ignore them.

[rjdimariamiskovic]

O.K., before I start I would like to say that what I’m about to write is not to sway the vote in any one direction. I do have my favorites and I feel that everyone did an exceptionally good job this round.

Dan: I love your stuff. In my eyes the “Bruce Timm”-esque style that you’ve shown would get me to purchase any book that you’re on. Your alien kid looks like how I would imagine Yoda as a child. FYI. I’ve already printed your work, but I hid it from Charles.

Jon: I feel this is your best so far. As far as “alien-boy” looking too old, has no one seen that Robin Williams movie where the kid looks older than he was??? Sheesh!!! I liked your robot. I feel that the 3rd page, 3rd panel was cropped poorly and I actually liked your 4th page. The only thing I had a real problem with was the light source. It looks as though many of the characters are floating. Shadow ground objects.

CPWIII: I admit. I like it. Strong story telling. Good “alien- kid”. I also like on the 4th page that the “alien-kid” was facing the same direction as the heroes. It gave a sense of; “I’m with the team amd we’re going to kick your steel butt!!!”

Caio: Just so you know. This is meant only as a critique. I feel that these were your strongest pages.
1st pg, 1st panel. The kid looks squished in the box.
2nd pg, 1st panel. I see what you’re trying to do with that box around the “alien-kid”, but it distracted me and stopped the story, not in a good way.
3rd pg, 3rd panel. Your character touches the border. You NEED to stop doing that.
Your 4th page… looks pretty good actually.
Over all good work. I did notice that your figure look a little “bloopy” and there doesn’t seem to be a light source.

…and now for the wrath of the MBB.

Sincerely,
"Jerk-face"

[Steev]

IMHO, thinking what WB would think is a waste of time, since this is just a test. All the guys here are giving their best, but it not hurts to just have fun. Relax, dude! Life is tough and short! :D
I'm relaxed, Monkey-Man! :D
Just wondering if you could get away with that in a "real world" situation. It really makes no difference to me.
Life is tough and short isn't it? Man, that sucks. ;)

[haybaath]

Well done all four artists on this week's assignment! In particular congrats to Reed for a brilliant robot, CPW for those awesome buildings, Caio for an amazing page two and Dan for exemplary story-telling.
My vote however goes to Dan. The little alien boy is beautifully imagined and the panel where he faces up to the mantis on page two is perfect - the reader is with him all the way.

[Brandon Hanvey]

I like the horizontal better. It's more natural to read each contestant's pages as a single narrative from left to right rather than top to bottom.

Here is the horizontal version.

http://brainiac.boilingpoint.com/~cbi3/brandoncbi/cbir4all2.jpg

[kalorama]

I think this is Caio's best work of the competition easily, but there's one issue (no, not the "easter eggs") that catches my eye every time I look at his pages and distracts me--his placement of the kid in an "inset box" on page two.

If you want the reader's eye to focus in on the kid, then I think you would have been better served by doing that with the actual drawing, either by making him bigger or silhouetting him, or spotting some blacks to draw the readers eye towards him. Drawing that black bordered box around him box seems like a last-minute attempt to correct a flaw. It's kind of counter productive because it stands out so much that it draws the reader's eye towards the kid and away from the attacking robot, which should be the primary focus in that panel. It's also problematic because the kid's body language (the angle of his head, his stance) don't really give the impression of panic or fear, or even that he's looking up at the robot. He seems to be walking ahead, oblivious to the chaos around him until we see his face in the next panel.

[Eder]

Caio's was really good but when I look at these entries I tend to think of them as if these were actual comic pages being turned in for print. Having said that, would he be able to get away with all the extra characters and "easter eggs"? Would it be a touchy subject for WB if one of their books had a character owned by someone else show up in the pages?
Art Adams used to put stuff like that in his crowd scenes so i wonder what the thought is on this.

I think Caio made nothing different of Gene Ha in Top Ten maxi-series. Every panel had several known characters as easter eggs and no one complaint.

[Dan M]

I wonder if the contestants could convince Polystyleneman to colour their pages this time around...?

[Eder]

I wonder if the contestants could convince Polystyleneman to colour their pages this time around...?

Hey, this would be great!

[kalorama]

Here is the horizontal version.


Much better. Thanks.

It really points out some of the comparative strengths and weaknesses of each entry. Reed and Wilson really nailed the giant robot attack.

[Mmmmmpig]

I wonder if the contestants could convince Polystyleneman to colour their pages this time around...?

I imagine if all the contestants ask nicely and in unison he wouldn't be able not to :D

[Hieu Le Bui]

Looks like the best one for this week is Charles Paul Wilson III. Man I love that last page of all the Legionares together.

[Dan M]

I imagine if all the contestants ask nicely and in unison he wouldn't be able not to :D

Remaining contestants... TRANSMUTE!

[Fodaum]

Toe Jam & Earlie
ET
Vegeta
...

Where it is the Olie?

:D :D :D

Very Good Caio.

CW3... congrats for wonderfuls pags.

Jonh... i'm your brazilian fan.

And Dan... i´m not words... you are fantastic...

[Dan M]

Toe Jam & Earlie
ET
Vegeta
...

Where it is the Olie?

:D :D :D

Very Good Caio.

CW3... congrats for wonderfuls pags.

Jonh... i'm your brazilian fan.

And Dan... i´m not words... you are fantastic...

So are you Fodaum! Thanks a lot!

[warren_0]

WOW! You guys are great! Everyone's got their strengths on fine display here. And four pages! Congratulations!

Good thing you got your callouses built up, because nit-picking will be the only thing deciding the votes for many of us. Gonna be some pulse-pounding voting coming up!! Thanks for the show!

[Nick Pitarra]

Yall know I love all of yalls work already. All four of yall made my top ten out of the almost 200 applicants. In no order here are some thoughts on your pages guys,i'm at school so these won't be too detailed.

Jon- You killed this one! Just awesome. Love the last page, my favorite of the four. The alien might be too old, but come on, aliens could live to be 100000 years old...he could be a baby for all we know. And you put character in his face, which is way more important than age. Love that robot. This is why I love your work.

Dan- Man...I'm not one to crit you. You're really really good. Your alien was awesome.Last page has a cool factor to it. I guess the only knock would be that I know what I'm going to get from you before you do it. Of all the contestants, you are so polished and classic in your style that I kind of know what to expect. At the same time, thats the ultimate compliment. You're just that damn good. One small crit...that trip was a little on the weak side,compared to the other 3 guys, but still drawn well.

Charles-Great emotion. Great rendering. Great 1st page. You loose a little by pulling so far back on the robot attack. It feels less dramatic with the pull out I guess. But you recover well on the following page, by bringing the attack back to the alien. Great trip sequence. Great helping up sequence. Classic last page shot. My favorite overall this round.

Caio- Love the pacing on the first pages. Love the girl helping the alien up shot,you did that the best.You build the drama well. Love the extras. My only complains would be the rubbery anatomy, I really liked it before, but it seems to be getting too loose at times...a little too cartoony in spots. You start to loose things when it comes to the faces, they feel sort of generic at times. The number of characters on the last page is cool, but they feel like they are all genericly looking up, a little more character/emotion would have sold it better, plus they feel crammed together for whatever reason.

All of you guys are good enough to win. And I wish you all the best.
I'll break these down(panel by panel) when i get out of class.

Best,
nick

[polystyleneman]

I wonder if the contestants could convince Polystyleneman to colour their pages this time around...?

Heh, I'm busy coloring my own this time.... and trying to catch up on all these posts....

[gwor]

I think all four are strong, but Dan's storytelling takes the cake. His panels aren't unnecessarily cluttered, character acting is paramount, and that style is simply kewl.

Now, if only we can somehow get all of Canada to vote for you :)

[Dan M]

I think all four are strong, but Dan's storytelling takes the cake. His panels aren't unnecessarily cluttered, character acting is paramount, and that style is simply kewl.

Now, if only we can somehow get all of Canada to vote for you :)

Maybe if I sing my rousing rendition of "O Canada"...?

Or would that make things worse?

[tPOV]

Maybe if I sing my rousing rendition of "O Canada"...?

Or would that make things worse?

If you start singing it, chances are that a random group of people will just join you after the first line anyway.

[Brandon Hanvey]

Maybe if I sing my rousing rendition of "O Canada"...?

Or would that make things worse?

This ain't American Idol. Those guys are down the hall.

[kamgates]

Really cool stuff this round, everyone brought something different to the table! Here are my two cents...

Jon Reed, I think you're my favorite this week. I read the 'everyone running but ball-kid' beat the easiest out of everyone and I love your
destroying the city shot. It's got that faint quirkiness that makes you feel the story to come is going to be a lot of fun to read. Also, looking at your first shot of Saturn Girl especially, it seems like you've taken some of the judges advice and toned down some of your exaggerated proportions and crotch width in favor of anatomy. That's cool to see!

Dan McDaid, you've been my favorite on two separate weeks and I still love your style, but I think this is my least favorite entry of yours. It might just be me, since a lot of people seem to love it. Coloring might change this, but I miss your ink washes. I think the boy could have used pupils to help us connect with him, also I feel like there are a shortage of tangible environments. First panel on page two for example, the chaos covers a lot of the city and there's no ground plane in the shot. Also the last page feels a little more like a cover montage than the Legion actually standing there. Sorry for the negative, I still love your style. Great to see Matter Eater Lad!

Charles Paul Wilson III, I think you captured the epic-ness of everything the best. Setting the boy up on a walkway allowed a very cool sweeping vista of the robot destroying the city. If I didn't know the script I think it would take me a bit to see everyone else is running away from something though. I feel it's that they're in the background and no one in panel 5 looks all that scared. I also kind of miss that the robot fires at the kid. I think it's mainly that you never establish the spacial relationship of the robot and the kid, and partially the composition of panels 2 and 3 where in screen space the robot is firing away from the boy. Really nice last page! I think in terms on composition and number of heroes it's my favorite.

Caio Oliveira, very nice storytelling! I like your opening shot to lead up into the story and establish the boy/ball situation. Panel four was a little iffy to me, I think color would help. I get the everyone else is running away which is the main point (nice aliens!), but I get a little lost in it. I think a lot of that is due to the alien running my the upper right side of the boy. It took me a little while to decipher the hand run he's doing and that hurt the tangibility of the ground plane that you've tried so hard to illustrate with shadows. Great job on that last shot! Way to step up and draw a LEGION!

[Mark Cardwell]

For the fourth round, I was looking forward to Jon and Dan's work the most, as I'd kinda rumbled that they were the two artists most influenced by names linked with the Legion. Jon's got a whole lotta Olivier Coipel going on, Dan has a certain amout of Keith Giffen, and a big spoonful of Paul Rivoche, too. And yeah, those two dudes knocked it out of the ball park. In fact - Dan, any chance you'd sell me your page four afters?

Caio's first two pages are great, his big robot scene is the best of the bunch, but his last two are a mess. Saturn Girl's legs look more rickety than Mané Garrincha's (that's a gag for our Brazilian brethren). CPW III's work looks a bit rushed and scrappier than before. Maybe doing four pages in three days took its toll there.

[Dan M]

In fact - Dan, any chance you'd sell me your page four afters?



You betcha. PM/email me!

[davidbovey]

Jon's got a whole lotta Olivier Coipel going on.


I see more Mignola in Jon Reed's work than anything else.

[Steev]

I see more Mignola in Jon Reed's work than anything else.

I agree.
Old Mignola though.
Alpha Flight Mignola.

[Dan M]

I see more Mignola in Jon Reed's work than anything else.

In the shapes, sure. In the textures and the faces there's a lot of early Copiel there. Cool.

[Mark Cardwell]

I once had a dream where Mike Mignola took a Legion assignment after COSMIC ODYSSEY. I still have a vivid memory of the splash page I saw in my head - a group shot of the Legion, stranded on an asteroid. I blame Stilton.

[Steev]

I once had a dream where Mike Mignola took a Legion assignment after COSMIC ODYSSEY. I still have a vivid memory of the splash page I saw in my head - a group shot of the Legion, stranded on an asteroid. I blame Stilton.
You had a dream about comic books?!!

[Erivelton]

Saturn Girl's legs look more rickety than Mané Garrincha's (that's a gag for our Brazilian brethren).
hahahah, great gag! do you like Brazilian football Mark?

[Greenjack]

I wish I realized the schedule of this thing sooner, I would have voted in earlier rounds. I liked a lot of what I saw from previous rounds.

Here's how I'd rate things for round 4:

Wilson
Page 1- great use of blacks to frame the scenes I espescially like panels 1 and 4. The figure in panel 3 seems a little awkward to me. But I like your choice to omit the background.
Page 2-strong and menacing, good show of fear, though not enough people.
Page 3- again great use of blacks. Love the second to last panel, really puts the emphasis on Saturn girl.
Page 4- Strongest of all the entries. Legion launching into action, nice dynamic varied poses. Kid watching them go off, very nice.

McDaid
Page 1- Everything clean and easy to read, but the white space on the bottom seems to be drawing me to it.
Page 2- Fantastic, love your black and white usage. You did a good job conveying menace, even with your more whimsical style.
Page 3- Like it a lot, once again great use of blacks.
Page 4- Great page, my 2nd favorite page 4.

Oliveira
Page 1- Great page, I pretty much like this as a whole. Though the grin in panel 2 is a little sinister to me.
Page 2- I agree with other posters. The box around the main character in the first panel looks more like a quick fix than anything else. Work on using those spotted blacks to your advantage.
Page 3- Your best page, I can follow this much easier.
Page 4-I love the kid taking the ball from the guy in the front, but there's so much going on in this page that I missed it the first few times I looked at it. The page is very busy, you need to do something to make the characters stand apart more.

Reed
Page 1-I love your style. Your really good at separating foreground and background elements. However your character looks too old. Less lines and wrinkles would do a lot to help that.
Page 2-Love panel 1 and your expression in panel 2.
Page 3-Looks scared in the last panel, and still too old once again less wrinkles would help.
Page 4- Just awkward in general. 1st person view or something like it would have worked much better.

There was a lot I liked about everyone's work.
Whomever wins, I think everyone here is close to getting work.
It's better than some published work I've seen, keep at it!

[Mark Cardwell]

You had a dream about comic books?!!

Of course. But only about comics that don't exist. And then I wake up and mourn them.

[Mark Cardwell]

hahahah, great gag! do you like Brazilian football Mark?
Everyone who loves football likes Brazil. Well, with the possible exception of the Argentinians.

[Fodaum]

Saturn Girl´s and Garrincha

huhuhuh

Garrincha era o cara.

hahahahaha

[Fodaum]

I wish I realized the schedule of this thing sooner, I would have voted in earlier rounds. I liked a lot of what I saw from previous rounds.

Here's how I'd rate things for round 4:

Wilson
Page 1- great use of blacks to frame the scenes I espescially like panels 1 and 4. The figure in panel 3 seems a little awkward to me. But I like your choice to omit the background.
Page 2-strong and menacing, good show of fear, though not enough people.
Page 3- again great use of blacks. Love the second to last panel, really puts the emphasis on Saturn girl.
Page 4- Strongest of all the entries. Legion launching into action, nice dynamic varied poses. Kid watching them go off, very nice.

McDaid
Page 1- Everything clean and easy to read, but the white space on the bottom seems to be drawing me to it.
Page 2- Fantastic, love your black and white usage. You did a good job conveying menace, even with your more whimsical style.
Page 3- Like it a lot, once again great use of blacks.
Page 4- Great page, my 2nd favorite page 4.

Oliveira
Page 1- Great page, I pretty much like this as a whole. Though the grin in panel 2 is a little sinister to me.
Page 2- I agree with other posters. The box around the main character in the first panel looks more like a quick fix than anything else. Work on using those spotted blacks to your advantage.
Page 3- Your best page, I can follow this much easier.
Page 4-I love the kid taking the ball from the guy in the front, but there's so much going on in this page that I missed it the first few times I looked at it. The page is very busy, you need to do something to make the characters stand apart more.

Reed
Page 1-I love your style. Your really good at separating foreground and background elements. However your character looks too old. Less lines and wrinkles would do a lot to help that.
Page 2-Love panel 1 and your expression in panel 2.
Page 3-Looks scared in the last panel, and still too old once again less wrinkles would help.
Page 4- Just awkward in general. 1st person view or something like it would have worked much better.

There was a lot I liked about everyone's work.
Whomever wins, I think everyone here is close to getting work.
It's better than some published work I've seen, keep at it!

Onde eu assino.
This round is the best and difficult of all.
Congratulations to the participants and good luck.
:D

[warren_0]

Maybe if I sing my rousing rendition of "O Canada"...?

Or would that make things worse?

Errrr.....

Hey HOSER! Just keep drawing, eh? That's all it takes, right? :D

Keep yer stick on the ice,
~ w.

[Victor Rolf]

This round is the most difficul to choose the better artist! My vote goes to Oliveira (i´m his fan since little child) and i think he merit something! But the others are realy great! Dan have a style that realy please me,this round aren´t his strongest but he´s still one of my favourites. Reed have a unique style congratulation! CPW is probably the moust profetional, But i realy like original arts, an artist that show identity, originality, somethig unique. to me is one of the most important characteristic.Becose of this i think CPW the last one but a great talent!


ps:About Caio´s "easter-eggs": To me! ...realy not a problem! I still remeber how axious i was each spider-man comic by McFarlane, to chase the spider in cover and Felix in the pages! Realy add-on!

i think that a comic book is a media to keep,collect,read 1,2,3,4....times.iff have more things to see each time better!

...if had to be aliens, why not not a know one??

ps2: sorry about my english! i´m not used to write!

[Sojourner77]

I feel like a poser posting my opinions, given that I can't even draw straight stick figures, and know nothing about art at all (I'm following the comp in large part to learn more about the process, which is working). But, I loved the art in this round enough to want to congratulate all four. For what it's worth, my specifics:

Dan: On the whole, I really like McDaid's style. He's the only competitor I intend to try to follow after the competition, and pickup whatever he does (I don't normally follow artists much at all). Having said that, these weren't my favourite pages. But I loved the alien - and I loved page two, particularly the second panel. I got really pulled in to the little alien's world. Loved the Saturn Girl catching the ball too. The final page is a great cover, but it just didn't feel like part of the story, and that was distracting, because I wanted to feel the awe the alien did, and instead I felt like the reader again (not sure that makes sense, sorry).

Caio: I really, really want to see these pages coloured. I'm not used to looking at lots of pencil art, so I find the detail can be overwhelming. I think they would look amazing coloured. These were my favourite Caio pages in the comp, he had the best sense of world building - you et a sense of this metropolis. I didn't mind the easter eggs, but I think it is true that a city where there are no more than one of any species seems less like a homeworld and more like a transit zone. I didn't get the same impact of the child's story, but I did get more of a sense of the world. Really didn't like the final page - just looked kinda monotonous. Sorry, that's as clear as I can be.

Jon: These were easily the pages from Reed i liked most. I liked that the alien wasn't "cute" but conveyed the emotion really well. Best page one, I thought, in terms of the ball drawing you in and all that. Still not a style that really grabs me, and the final page just looked a little sparse for some reason.

Charles: I have liked most of what CPW has done in the comp. Best things in this I thought were the top of page 2 - I liked that you got a clear sense of the danger to the child's homeworld, and the panel conveyed the impact on the kid, which was lovely. And I liked the city - fourth panel - on page one. This was also the only final page I really liked. I don't know enough about composition to say why, really, but it did.

I'd love, love, love to see them coloured by Polystyleneman. It'd be a crime if he didn't get some colouring work out of this.

[polystyleneman]

I'd love, love, love to see them coloured by Polystyleneman. It'd be a crime if he didn't get some colouring work out of this.

Hey, thanks! :o That would be awesome!

[Vig]

Compared to last week, there's some really good stuff this week. I'm quite clear who to vote this time.

A round of hands for all contestants for completing 4 pages in record time and in high quality as well.:)

[polystyleneman]

Compared to last week, there's some really good stuff this week. I'm quite clear who to vote this time.

A round of hands for all contestants for completing 4 pages in record time and in high quality as well.:)

Yeah I have some crits here and there but overall these guys did a fantastic job in three days!

[Kalyan Pokala]

Absolutely incredible work by everyone this round compared to rounds previous.

Again, my vote goes/will go to CPW.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Yeah that CPW 4 page LSH looked very good .

[BADunn]

There were certainly no bad entries this week but they were rather underwhelming.

Dan: He may finally get my vote again. He seemed to draw this the way that best captured what I thought the scene would look like in my head. His little alien kid is the cutest, he drew page four with the layout I was most comfortable with, and he had an interesting robot design. However, I feel that he uses a little too much white-space and that he needs to connect his lines more to tighten up his pictures. Dan knows that he can rely on people to visually foreshorten his artwork but not everyone forshortens the same way and he might be tough for some colorists to work with. (I assume, at least. I'm not an artist and I can color only slightly better than Kindergarteners!)

Caio: He's a good artist but he never gets me excited. I will admit that I still feel biased against him but his art hasn't been giving me any incentive to stop being biased. However, I give him major points for using multiple alien designs--although a mono-special group might be more appropriate--and for his weird and unique robot design which is probably my favorite of the four. However, his page four looked really weird. A lot of the characters have squiggly bodies and I don't know why.

Charles: This man is the most likely to have a career with the majors, regardless of how he fares in the competition. Charles is, bar none, the best visual storyteller and he can be complex without being overwhelming. However, his pages aren't quite what I wanted. His citiy is fantastic and hits my art deco obsession, but his alien kid looks too old and his splash page is weak. I keep hearing that Dan's splash looks more cover-y (which it is just a little bit) but this REALLY looks like a cover. However, I must also stress that Charles, more than anyone else, knows to leave room for text! I'm not sure I'll vote for him (I won't take my chances but he might not need my vote) but I will always remember that he, out of all the artists here, thinks and acts critically about every element of a story and script, not just about his part. How is he not already a pro? I don't know!

Jon: My God, this man is the ultimate dark horse. Every week I keep expecting him to disappear but more and more I know why he's still in this competition. Now that the distraction of the more flamboyant artists (good and bad alike) is gone, Jon can stand out as a more grounded and solid artist. I must also say that it speaks well of him that he has been the first to finish twice in a row. I also liked his design on the alien kid as it seemed the most original. While he could have done better in indicating his character as a youth (larger eyes, shorter body, softer face, fewer wrinkles!) it still worked well. However, his legion designs were quite off. I don't know if he did worse than Caio's odd designs but they were rough and used one of my pet peeves, the makes-no-sense facial line. I know he's trying to tell me something about the face shapes but, instead, the legion memebers look like they have weird scars on their faces.

So I think I know who to vote for but I'm going to mull over things just a bit until voting time. All I'll say is that I'm torn once again between Dan and Charles. I truly hope they make the final two but, if voting history repeats itself, it looks like it's just going to be a Caio vs. Charles match. However things go down, I'm hoping for a surprise--and I hope all of our contestants make big splashes in comics, whether with the big superhero houses or, more importantly, with original works of their own!

[Kalyan Pokala]

Jon Reed's kid looked like he was 40. What was up with that Jon?

[polystyleneman]

Jon Reed's kid looked like he was 40. What was up with that Jon?

He already explained his reasoning behind that. Look through the posts.

[Tre Styles]

Before I begin, let me say that you four definitely inspire me to step up my own art game! 3 days for 4 pages?! Of this calibur and quality?! Wow guys, there is sooo much that is in your favor, and all four of you, I'd buy a book from, although your styles would be suited towards different things. This will be a hard round to judge, and I'm mad at myself for missing out on the last round of voting, I will try not to this round....

here's my penny worth's

Caio: As a reader, I would really enjoy these pages. They are engaging, they draw me in, it seems to follow the script, it tells the story. I love the different variety of aliens, the alien kid is the freshest (where did he get those "kicks"?.. :) )out of all the ones in the competition. I felt that the actual danger, and the kid's astonishment....and oh my god....you killed it on that splash page son. It felt bigger than life...and like a real LEGION of Heroes. (But do ALL of them need to be there to stop the robot? lol...just kidding....I enjoyed it man). I have a real urge to practice my coloring skills on some of these pages because I reallly, really want to see them in a comic....I definitely would like to see your work on a team book, such as "X-Men", "GL Corps", "Teen Titans", something along those lines...


Reed: The linework here is really strong, and I loved the "Iron Giant" style robot here. I think that's probably the strongest panel in this piece. I read your reasons about why the kid looked older on the first page of this thread, but I had looked at your pages first, and kinda reasoned to myself...this is an ALIEN...so who's to say what a child alien would look like? They might look that old, but then you said he's a teen...so there you go. I don't know, I think a younger looking (at least by human standards) version might have pulled me in more....and the last page is cool, but it didn't really have that "wow" moment. But you are an extremely talented artist, and you think outside the box, and your design sense if cool, so that's points in your favor, man. I'd like to see you on a title like "The Hulk" or various mini series for some reason...



McDaid: Man, you're artwork is so much fun. You have that classic style and I would love to see you on a book like "Leave to Chance", "Tellos", or even a retelling of some classic superhero origins or animated series adaptions. I really liked your panels and your sense of storytelling, adding in very smooth shots here and there. I think your alien kid is probably the cutest one, and he reminds me of a very, very young "Yoda" for some reason....which is a good thing. I love the panel of him running from the explosion and reaching out for his ball. The splash page grabbed me as well, and I really felt that "awe" and have mad love for that classic Legion look. *And special kudos for including ME Lad! lol! ;)

CPWIII: I have to say bro, that you have been one of my favorites of this entire competition, and you turned in some strong pages here. My favorite page is definitely #2 with that killa monster robot! Ah....the DETAILS man! Your linework is just awesome.This is that crazy bananas good stuff here. I also liked the building sense of danger with the kid....how he gets knocked off the bridge...and then helped up by Saturn Girl...all of that looks well done....although it could be more of a "surprise" shot that Saturn Girl was actually there to help. It looked like, as one of the judges stated, that he knew she was there...The only other lil' nitpick would be that the last page, and don't get me wrong, it screams "action" and "Legion", but it looks like the kid has joined them in getting ready for the battle rather than him being in "awe" at them, or looking up towards them. But that's a minor quibble for me... You are among the strongest competitiors in this competition, and you should already be in the major leagues. I would loveto see your take on a solo hero book like "Spider-Man"or "Nightwing." I also think you'd be good on team books as well.

[Goyo]

Of course. But only about comics that don't exist. And then I wake up and mourn them.


http://www.neilgaimania.it/immagini/enciclopedreams/lucien.jpg
"Could you please return the last comics you borrowed last week?"

[gorgonthedestroyer]

Hey how about a jam page from all of the artists??? We could use Jon's speed, CPWIII's impecable story telling, Dan's style and Caio's (seemingly never ending) fan base. Now that's a winning combo!!!:)

[Kalyan Pokala]

He already explained his reasoning behind that. Look through the posts.

Personally I find that to be a bit of a cop-out. Since Reed has had a little trouble with drawing anything but old people (see C.B.'s round) I don't buy that reasoning.

But yes, I suppose it is possible that the alien is young.

Still a cop-out. ;)

[gorgonthedestroyer]

Personally I find that to be a bit of a cop-out. Since Reed has had a little trouble with drawing anything but old people (see C.B.'s round) I don't buy that reasoning.

But yes, I suppose it is possible that the alien is young.

Still a cop-out. ;)

Maybe they age old to young. Just like on Mork & Mindy. (That's a televidion show from the late 70's, early 80's staring Robin Williams) Na Noo Na Noo!!!

[haybaath]

Personally I find that to be a bit of a cop-out. Since Reed has had a little trouble with drawing anything but old people (see C.B.'s round) I don't buy that reasoning.

But yes, I suppose it is possible that the alien is young.

Still a cop-out. ;)

Surely 'cop-out' is a bit strong. Also it doesn't give Reed (clearly a talented draughtsman) much credit. I think it should be put down to an artistic decision.

[Fodaum]

Caio. I have fun myself with your pages.

You have an incredible imagination, and more, make with that I amuse me reading HQs, what for me is a strong point of your art.

I wait sincerely that it continues in the competition.

However, good luck to all, therefore you are the best one.

:cool:

[kalorama]

Jon Reed's kid looked like he was 40. What was up with that Jon?

The kid in Reed's pages was clearly smaller in stature than the adults or the Legion members. Given that he was a member of a completely alien species, we have no way of knowing how the facial features of kids of a certain age were supposed to look. Also, the script didn't specify an age for the kid, it just said "a young alien boy." That could mean 7 or 8 years old or 12 to 13. The height difference between those two ranges in human terms can be considerable. Most of the contestants went towards the former a drew a small child. Reed's entry swings more toward the older end of the scale, but still fits the actual description provided.

[Steev]

The debate of what an alien kid looks like is all well and good but isn't the point to convey the story in such a way that ANY reader would look at it and see a kid? I'm not knocking Reed's drawing skills, they're top notch. I think he did a great job of drawing what he had in mind but I do think it was a not-so-good choice.

[Jay Figgs]

The debate of what an alien kid looks like is all well and good but isn't the point to convey the story in such a way that ANY reader would look at it and see a kid? I'm not knocking Reed's drawing skills, they're top notch. I think he did a great job of drawing what he had in mind but I do think it was a not-so-good choice.

Precisely.

[kalorama]

The debate of what an alien kid looks like is all well and good but isn't the point to convey the story in such a way that ANY reader would look at it and see a kid?

Is that the point? Taken in the context of what's on the page, given the nature of the action he's involved in (chasing a ball), his stature relative to the Legion (who are themselves teenagers and young adults), and facial expressions, I had no problem looking at it an seeing a kid.

[mightyfineline]

Gah! It's the 'duck' thing all over again.
You guys latch on to stuff and it's like a dog with a bone man!
LET... IT... GO!

[Goyo]

Is that the point? Taken in the context of what's on the page, given the nature of the action he's involved in (chasing a ball), his stature relative to the Legion (who are themselves teenagers and young adults), and facial expressions, I had no problem looking at it an seeing a kid.


I instantly noticed it was a kid as well.

The kid in "Enemy Mine" had "old" features as well, but he was a kid!

I don't get the point here. Art shouldn't be "obvious" all the time, it should work. And Reed makes it work, despite his "old looking" ALIEN kid.

Everybody here understood it was a kid, if it was in your monthly comic, nobody would write the editor to complain about it. Since it's a contest, fair enough, everybody is trying to point out all possible failures on the contestant's works. But in this case (as in Caio's "special appearances"), I don't agree with the ones complaining.

[polystyleneman]

Maybe it's relative, I mean the alien kid could be young at age 400 if his species lives to be a few thousand years old... ;)

[Jonathan Hickman]

Just looked at these. Fantastic job by all four guys.

[Kalyan Pokala]

Gah! It's the 'duck' thing all over again.
You guys latch on to stuff and it's like a dog with a bone man!
LET... IT... GO!

Dude, it was just an observation. I'm entitled to have it, and if anything, I haven't gone over it over and over again like the duck thing at all.

My last thoughts on the matter: my initial reaction and my reaction still is that he doesn't look like a kid to me. He looks like an old "little person." (Staying PC)

[Mark Cardwell]

Loved this in Marc Silvestri's critique of CPW III:

"As for the composition itself, remember rubble is your friend! Use it to create a natural slope like theater seating at the movies. This will help when you’ve got a lot of characters to show and you don’t want to lose any of them in the crowd. The chunk of rubble hiding the first guy’s legs seems more of a cheat and messes with the perspective. Showing him in full figure would have been much more dramatic and would lead the eye into the background easier."

This, from a guy who has spent the last few years using rubble, leaves, water, basically anything going, to get out of drawing feet (I'm only teasing, Marc!).

Oh, and I loved Jon's wee alien. He had a cool Walter Simonson vibe about him.

[Shawn333]

I haven't commented during this whole competition yet, but I figured I'd chime in with some quick thoughts.

Charles- You've been one of my 2 favorites through out this whole thing and I think this round was my favorite of yours. IMHO you have the best drawing skills in this competition. And considering how great all of these guys are, that's saying A LOT. If I had to be nitpicky and look for something you could improve on I'd say maybe storytelling and panel layouts. Not that there's anything wrong with yours, there could probably just be some improvements there over time. Hell, I could probably say the same thing for nearly everyone who is a pro in the business though. Your stuff is great and if I see your name on something, I'd pick it up. You've made me a fan.

Dan- I have to echo what I just said about Charles Paul Wilson III, your stuff is great and you've made me a fan. You and Charles are my favorites in this thing. If you guys make it to the final 2 I'll have a hell of a time trying to decide who to vote for. I love your style and your depictions of the Legionaires were my absolute favs.

Jon- I thought you did a great job in this round, man. Your robot and alien designs were the best of the bunch. I did think the alien looked a bit older than he should have at first glance, but as the panels progressed, he clearly was smaller than the others and the heroes so I thought it worked. It was just a matter of the design not being small and cutesy I guess....but as I said I liked your alien better than the others personally. Judging an aliens age can be some tricky shit anyway. Who would look at Yoda and think he's over 900 years old? I probably wouldn't have even thought of it again if not for one of the judges mentioning the alien/ age thing. I thought you did a great job of telling the story here too.

Caio- What else can I say that hasn't been said about your stuff? You have a big fan base already and for good reason. Your submission this round wasn't my favorite, but you have consistently impressed the hell out of me each week and made me wanna see what your next stuff was gonna look like.

Good luck to all 4 of you in this competition and in life with your careers. I think this week my vote is gonna go for CPW3. He just did a kick ass job on his pages.

[eti]

Why can't people draw teeth without showing gums? :D Sorry, CPWIII and Caio, I can't in good conscience vote for either of you. ;)

Hmm...they seem to be doing well so far; maybe that's their secret?

[CPWilsonIII]

(Actually this was supposed to be a PM. Sorry!)

[haybaath]

I was just reviewing the vertical pages (well done, Brandon, by the way!) and noticed that some of the artists make very similar design decisions. Caio and Dan seem to be on the same wavelength, likewise Charles and John. Page 2 in particular shows this up if you look at the 'monster' designs and the little inset panels of the alien boy (by Charles and John). Another similarity comes with the representation of Saturn Girl.
Not a mind-blowing thought but worth noting.

[shwa96]

Caio-

One note I need to mention here, and a thing I found a bit distracting, was the wide variety of aliens we are exposed to right off the bat. By making everyone we see in these pages so physically different (bugs, frogs, humans, is that ET?) from each other we get no sense of the kid belonging to any particular alien race (we actually kind of lose the fact he’s a kid because we see no adults of his kind). This draws too much attention away from the important action and forces the reader to stop and go “hey look at all the cool, weird looking aliens”.

-M

After having to answer to the entire Brazilian contingent for my comment, at least someone agrees with me. Of course, he said it better than I did.

[Muddy Waters]

These pages show a great sense of kinetic energy and good storytelling instincts. The alien race(s) provide you with opportunity to put more “character” in your characters and plays to strengths you have as an artist.


Yeah, I also agree with Mr Silvestri! Right on the nail :D

[Goyo]

After having to answer to the entire Brazilian contingent for my comment, at least someone agrees with me. Of course, he said it better than I did.

And we can't disagree with him???:rolleyes:

Fair enough for you to have your opinion - and the fact it's shared with Marc Silvestri.

Just don't try to push it as THE absolute truth for everybody else.

[Gene Frenkle]

I really want to see Caio working on a Spider-Man book. C´mon Quesada, you can make it happen.

[bigjohn]

Is anyone else having trouble with the forum? I just logged on to look at the judges' comments and was surprised to find that even though Caio's says there are 2, there are actually 3. Likewise for Dan - it says there is 1 but there are acutally 2.:confused:

[Gene Frenkle]

Is anyone else having trouble with the forum? I just logged on to look at the judges' comments and was surprised to find that even though Caio's says there are 2, there are actually 3. Likewise for Dan - it says there is 1 but there are acutally 2.:confused:
Same thing here.

[rjdimariamiskovic]

And we can't disagree with him???:rolleyes:

Fair enough for you to have your opinion - and the fact it's shared with Marc Silvestri.

Just don't try to push it as THE absolute truth for everybody else.

Let's face it. There is no ONE truth. Just like no two editors like the same thing or any two artists depict a script in the same manner.

Since we all enjoy a variety of things, let's be thankful that all of these artists bring something different to the table.

...now can we go back to arguing about the "alien-kid"?;)

[Francis Manapul]

I just wanted to say that all the participants did an awesome job! I was probably light on the compliment with my crits (I'm just that way when it comes to doing that). They all really impressed me, and they definitely stepped their games up making it very hard for me to pick a winner for this round. Also I wanted to note that not only will I be personally showing this rounds winners art to DC editor Mike Marts, I'll also be showing his art to Editions-Delcourt editor David Chauvel! So you'll have some face time not only at DC, but also in the French graphic novel market :D

[davidbovey]

And we can't disagree with him???:rolleyes:


You can disagree with him, but you'd more than likely be wrong when it comes to evaluating comicbook art.


Just sayin.

[Muddy Waters]

Well, as I see it, Marc Silvestri disliked the plethora of alien races, but understood what Caio was doing. At least that was my impression about the little bit I quoted earlier:

These pages show a great sense of kinetic energy and good storytelling instincts. The alien race(s) provide you with opportunity to put more “character” in your characters and plays to strengths you have as an artist.

And the other two judges seems not have a great gripe about it.

In the end, as much Pitarra’s duck joke, reed’s old alien or Holder’s shaggy Invincible it falls in the much ado about nothing category. IMHO, of course.

Imagine, if we’re talking about a professional assignment, all those choices would be previously discussed with the writer and the editor. For the the purposes of the contest I think is fair to push the envelope a bit. For myself, I appreciate an artist that take risks.

[davidbovey]

Imagine, if we’re talking about a professional assignment, all those choices would be previously discussed with the writer and the editor. For the the purposes of the contest I think is fair to push the envelope a bit. For myself, I appreciate an artist that take risks.

I agree, but this philosophy didn't really pan out for Jose. He took the most risks and it played against him. So there is a fine line there.

[rjdimariamiskovic]

I agree, but this philosophy didn't really pan out for Jose. He took the most risks and it played against him. So there is a fine line there.

Did it? Sure he's out of the contest, but not out of the competition. His entry I remember the most and what about the fact that he didn't submit this round and we're still talking about him.

[davidbovey]

Did it? Sure he's out of the contest, but not out of the competition. His entry I remember the most and what about the fact that he didn't submit this round and we're still talking about him.

In terms of the contest itself, it absolutely did. All you have to do is look through the comments in the voting threads and you'll see alot of people who commented that they weren't going to vote for Jose because he took certain risks. And they were risks that he knew he was taking.

Yeah, his artwork is memorable and lives on in our minds. But the fact is that he was eliminated for two reasons. He didn't compaign for votes and he took too many chances.

[rjdimariamiskovic]

But the fact is that he was eliminated for two reasons. He didn't compaign for votes and he took too many chances.

I can't disagree with you about the campaigning... speaking of which has anyone noticed that we haven't heard the Caio Oliveria battle cries as of yet?

[gorgonthedestroyer]

I can't disagree with you about the campaigning... speaking of which has anyone noticed that we haven't heard the Caio Oliveria battle cries as of yet?
Hey did anyone notice if you rearrange the letters "a" and "i" in Caio's name you get Ciao. Which means goodbye.

[rjdimariamiskovic]

Hey did anyone notice if you rearrange the letters "a" and "i" in Caio's name you get Ciao. Which means goodbye.
You're new here, aren't you??? Go back and check out the past rounds where other, seemingly more clever things have been said. Then check back with us. O.K.?

Oh and Caio, sorry for spelling your last name wrong.

Sincerely,
"Jerk-face"

[gorgonthedestroyer]

You're new here, aren't you??? Go back and check out the past rounds where other, seemingly more clever things have been said. Then check back with us. O.K.?

Oh and Caio, sorry for spelling your last name wrong.

Sincerely,
"Jerk-face"

Oh... okay, I will. You've been very helpful.

P.S. Now I see why your called jerk face.:)

[ChicoBarney]

Dont be jealous about Caio's success. It's for real- he has way more personality and style than the others contestants. Its a shame youre not recognizing it.

[bolapucc]

I can't disagree with you about the campaigning... speaking of which has anyone noticed that we haven't heard the Caio Oliveria battle cries as of yet?

You've REAALLY had to ask, don't you?:rolleyes:

Dont be jealous about Caio's success. It's for real- he has way more personality and style than the others contestants. Its a shame youre not recognizing it.

BWAH-HA-HA!

[Muddy Waters]

I can't disagree with you about the campaigning... speaking of which has anyone noticed that we haven't heard the Caio Oliveria battle cries as of yet?
Well, I guess that after three rounds, the novelty factor just faded a bit. You know, us latin people tend to be a little too enthusiastic sometimes.

Furthermore the language barrier makes hard to express some subtleties. For myself I don’t really know how my past commentaries and critics may have sounded for you, english born speakers.

Maybe it was a good opportunity for apologizing for anything I wrote that could have passed as harsh. I assure it was not my intention and the same stands true for the immense majority of our folks. I have nothing but the biggest respect for all the artists in the contest and for the CBR forums.

Cheers guys. This contest rocks. :D

OK, end of the sentimental moment. Let’s throw some insults. ;)

[Odinwolf]

Can I say that I'm really disappointed we haven't seen colored pages this time around? Is the guy that inked them in the last round going to surprise us all with 16 inked pages and make this round BAMazing?!?!

*crosses fingers*

[Muddy Waters]

Can I say that I'm really disappointed we haven't seen inked pages this time around? Is the guy that inked them in the last round going to surprise us all with 16 inked pages and make this round BAMazing?!?!

*crosses fingers*
I think you wanted to say colored pages, maybe? Both MacDaid and Oliveira inked their respective pages. ;)

[polystyleneman]

I really want to see Caio working on a Spider-Man book. C´mon Quesada, you can make it happen.

Hey, give Caio a little more respect. I mean when you think of some of the people that have worked on Spider-Man over the years.... :p

[polystyleneman]

Hey did anyone notice if you rearrange the letters "a" and "i" in Caio's name you get Ciao. Which means goodbye.

I guess you weren't around for the previous rounds....

[Vince Hernandez]

Hey, give Caio a little more respect. I mean when you think of some of the people that have worked on Spider-Man over the years.... ugh!

Yeah, Todd McFarlane, Mark Bagley, Stuart Immonen, Phil Jimenez, Terry Dodson, JRJ, Erick Larson...you don't wanna be anything like them.:D

[polystyleneman]

Yeah, Todd McFarlane, Mark Bagley, Stuart Immonen, Phil Jimenez, Terry Dodson, JRJ, Erick Larson...you don't wanna be anything like them.:D

OK, it was a cheap jab at a few people who drove me to stop buying comics for a looooooooong time. I know some great artists worked on it too. Thank God for JRJ.

[Mmmmmpig]

Instead of someone coloring the entire four pages for all the contestants, maybe someone could colorize the splash page of each contestant? that means only 4 pages... I would do it if it weren't for my amazing suckitude and outrageous apathy. (I'm looking your way polystyleneman :) )

[polystyleneman]

Instead of someone coloring the entire four pages for all the contestants, maybe someone could colorize the splash page of each contestant? that means only 4 pages... I would do it if it weren't for my amazing suckitude and apathy. (I'm looking your way polystyleneman :) )

Wow, I'm really in demand. (Listening, anyone? LOL) Sorry, I'm busy coloring my own submission, which is why I haven't got anything into the play at home thread yet either. Who knows, maybe if I get that done today.

[Goyo]

You can disagree with him, but you'd more than likely be wrong when it comes to evaluating comicbook art.


Just sayin.

Technically, yes, you're right.

But at the end of the day, artists are after our attention and money, so who has to be pleased, other artists or potential readers?;)

[Gene Frenkle]

Yeah, Todd McFarlane, Mark Bagley, Stuart Immonen, Phil Jimenez, Terry Dodson, JRJ, Erick Larson...you don't wanna be anything like them.:D
Yeah, these are good (except for Bagley, I really dont like him at all). But don´t forget that Spidey was left in the hands of... gasp... Humberto Ramos! Some people defend Ramos saying that Spider-man is a character that is ok to have an artist with "cartoony" look. But that´s why I think that Caio´s work would be great on a Spidey book. He does have a cartoony feel, but is not that exagerated. And he is much better on anatomy than Ramos. :D

[Odinwolf]

I think you wanted to say colored pages, maybe? Both MacDaid and Oliveira inked their respective pages. ;)

erm... yes. this is what happens when I go into work early. Too tired = typos. Fixed it. Poly... if I had a comic company, I would totally hire you. Please color the splash pages from this round and we'll all tell you how amazing you are again.

[Vince Hernandez]

Yeah, these are good (except for Bagley, I really dont like him at all). But don´t forget that Spidey was left in the hands of... gasp... Humberto Ramos! Some people defend Ramos saying that Spider-man is a character that is ok to have an artist with "cartoony" look. But that´s why I think that Caio´s work would be great on a Spidey book. He does have a cartoony feel, but is not that exagerated. And he is much better on anatomy than Ramos. :D

I think those guys are better than good, they're great. Interesting about Ramos, I wasn't blown away by his Spidey work but I didn't think it was awful. I really enjoyed his work on Revelations however.

[Kalyan Pokala]

Brandon, when is the voting going up?

[polystyleneman]

I think those guys are better than good, they're great. Interesting about Ramos, I wasn't blown away by his Spidey work but I didn't think it was awful. I really enjoyed his work on Revelations however.

Well I was never exposed to Ramos before, like I said I went a long time without buying comics, mostly because the art had gone so downhill in the 90s
all across the industry, so I just did a google image search for Ramos and Spider-Man and I have to say he's not so bad. I don't think his style would have turned me off from comics. I kind of dig it actually.

[Gene Frenkle]

I think those guys are better than good, they're great. Interesting about Ramos, I wasn't blown away by his Spidey work but I didn't think it was awful. I really enjoyed his work on Revelations however.
Yeah, you are right, I shouldn´t have said only good, they´re really great. I´m a really huge JRJR fan, he is an awesome storyteller. And I was not too fond of Larsen. I remember that I was only a kid, and I really loved McFarlane work. When he got out and Eric started his run on Spidey i thought "man, this guy sucks, he is trying to imitate Mac"! After a while I realized that he had his own style and apreciated his work.

[chris Chua]

wow, I think EVERYONE stepped up this round. great job, everyone! there's something about everyone's pages that rocked.

[Vince Hernandez]

Yeah, you are right, I shouldn´t have said only good, they´re really great. I´m a really huge JRJR fan, he is an awesome storyteller. And I was not too fond of Larsen. I remember that I was only a kid, and I really loved McFarlane work. When he got out and Eric started his run on Spidey i thought "man, this guy sucks, he is trying to imitate Mac"! After a while I realized that he had his own style and apreciated his work.

That's funny, I was a big fan of McFarlane's work and thought the same thing about Larsen when he took over. But now I appreciate both for their talents. Just took awhile to recover from Todd leaving.

[Mmmmmpig]

That's funny, I was a big fan of McFarlane's work and thought the same thing about Larsen when he took over. But now I appreciate both for their talents. Just took awhile to recover from Todd leaving.

Hey, hey, hey people. Let's keep on task here. this thread should be about people's individual opinions on whether the contestants should add duck gags or celebrity aliens to contest pages! Focus people! Focus

[polystyleneman]

Hey, hey, hey people. Let's keep on task here. this thread should be about people's individual opinions on whether the contestants should add duck gags or celebrity aliens to contest pages! Focus people! Focus

LOL. The funny thing is I was so busy looking at Caio's work I didn't see the easter eggs. I did go back and see Toe Jam and Earl, but I never saw Alf or ET. I'm sure if I go back and look for them I'll see them but they never distracted me from his pages.

[joh james]

Great jobs all around, FF! You've inspired me to do a page! The vote should be nothing short of a barn burner!

[Muddy Waters]

Hey, hey, hey people. Let's keep on task here. this thread should be about people's individual opinions on whether the contestants should add duck gags or celebrity aliens to contest pages! Focus people! Focus

I say they definitely should add duck gags and naked girls. Forget the aliens though.

[Vince Hernandez]

Hey, hey, hey people. Let's keep on task here. this thread should be about people's individual opinions on whether the contestants should add duck gags or celebrity aliens to contest pages! Focus people! Focus

True, true. My bad. I'm refocused.

[MartinRedmond]

Humberto Ramos is a god.

[Steev]

I say they definitely should add duck gags and naked girls. Forget the aliens though.
NOW, we're talking! Let's have that in the final round.