Coolest recent villains??? [Archive] - Comic Book Resources Forums

Web_Spinner

11-01-2007, 10:09 PM

With BND on the horizon and a bunch of new villains in store, I was thinking, what are some of the coolest recent villains? Within the last 10 years?

Here are some of my choices;

The Black Tarantula - 1997: Cool origin and scary powerful. Plus, I've always liked Spidey's run ins with mob/gang bosses!

Morlun - 2001: Okay, as bad as The Other was, his first appearance was sheer gold! Another scary powerful villain with an interesting motive and freaky life absorbing powers.

Ezekiel -2001: I loved this character. Pretty much what peter would have become if he used his powers for personal gain instead of helping others. He tried to sacrafice Peter to the Spider Gods in his place, but redeemed himself in the end, when he realised what a jerk he had been.

El Muerto and El Diablo: I loved this arc from PADs FNSM run. A crazy mexican wrestler bullied into fighting by an even crazier mexican wrestler, whose masks give them superhuman strength! Cool beans! And of course, JJJ is threatened into setting up a match vs the old webhead. Very old school feel to this arc!

Sean Whitmore

11-01-2007, 10:24 PM

I thought Black Tarantula had potential. I liked his few appearances back in the day, and his current appearances in Spider-Girl. He had resources as vast as the Kingpin's, and Spidey couldn't simply web him up and knock him out.

It'd be nice if his current story in Daredevil led to future appearances as a Spider-Man rogue.

SEAN

1WEBHEAD

11-01-2007, 11:52 PM

Fusion was awesome.

Rahul

11-02-2007, 01:53 AM

I liked Fusion and Morlun. And Tracer, even though he was a bit of an Ultron ripoff..

Toku King

11-02-2007, 02:39 AM

Fusion was just plain awesome. He's the best recent villain Spidey could hope for.

Hobgoblin 2111(I probably got the year wrong) was really cool too. Incredibly slick, cunning, and entertaining to watch fight Spider-Man.

The concept of Thousand was good, to say the least.

Ero started off with so much potential, but much of it was wasted later on.

I would've like Tracker, but only if he was just a super smart crook. That whole Machine God thing was lame.

Morlun sucked.

metalhead_dave743

11-02-2007, 05:02 AM

I like Morlun just because of the gruesome night long fight he had with Spider-Man. His attitude was pretty funny and I like how Spider-Man was able to beat him in the end as well. For "Coming Home" he was good.

He sucked in The Other(as well as that whole story)

Karl H

11-02-2007, 05:04 AM

Who was the guy who sat there in the Avengers tower talking to Aunt May, he was kinda cool.

Gibbering Fool

11-02-2007, 05:15 AM

I enjoyed the concept of Tracer, very interesting.

Who are fusion and the Thousand?

Nefarius

11-02-2007, 06:48 AM

I enjoyed the concept of Tracer, very interesting.

Who are fusion and the Thousand?

I don't remember fusion,but the Thousand was a one-shot villain in the first issue of Spiderman:Tangled web.I have to say that the Thousand was excellent as one-shot villain and i enjoyed his death.He was a nasty SOB.

Alan2099

11-02-2007, 07:17 AM

Morlun never impressed me. He was just a more powerful Morbius at best.

Fusion was pretty awsome though. I'd love to see more of that guy. Tracer and Hobgoblin 2211 has some real potential.

I'd also realy like to see Monster Octopus from the Playstation game make a comic apperance. Dr. octopus with he Carnage symbite. What's not to love?

PunisherFan

11-02-2007, 08:48 AM

Who was the guy who sat there in the Avengers tower talking to Aunt May, he was kinda cool.

Tracer..... as for recent villains that I liked? Jeeze I haven't really liked any Spidey-villains since Venom, which is why I haven't collected 99% of JMS run. I really hope BND brings back some of the classics like Electro, Doc Ock, Sandman, Mysterio (not the dead Beck half head thing, that was lame)

Rahul

11-02-2007, 09:37 AM

Tracer..... as for recent villains that I liked? Jeeze I haven't really liked any Spidey-villains since Venom, which is why I haven't collected 99% of JMS run. I really hope BND brings back some of the classics like Electro, Doc Ock, Sandman, Mysterio (not the dead Beck half head thing, that was lame)
Well, BND is bringing in people like mystic menaces, the character Menace, and roboty ninjas...

Toku King

11-02-2007, 09:47 AM

I enjoyed the concept of Tracer, very interesting.

Who are fusion and the Thousand?

Fusion was a brilliant mutant that was able to shape himself into the fears of others, or things he wants people to see. The thing is that although he may appear one way, he has no powers other than illusion.

Thousnad was retconned bully of Peter's before high school who can split himself into thousands of spiders, and even give himself super strength and some other special abilities.

Toku King

11-02-2007, 09:48 AM

Well, BND is bringing in people like mystic menaces, the character Menace, and roboty ninjas...

That's stupid. Why not go for the classic psycho ideas?

Mister Mets

11-02-2007, 09:52 AM

5. Shathra- Strange mannerisms. Freakish motives. I think some future writer should explore whatever happened to her "young."

4. Ezekiel- Interesting morally ambiguous figure, and his legacy is worth exploring in future comics.

3. Morlun- Intimidating as hell. The idea of a guy who hunts and kills superheroes is pretty cool.

2. Fusion- He's got good powers, a lot of money and really hates Spider-man. There's a lot you can do with him, and the story in which he was introduced "one Small Break' was astounding.

1. Mac Gargan Venom- I think giving the Venom symbiote to Mac Gargan made both into more intimidating enemies.

Rahul

11-02-2007, 09:56 AM

Dude I forgot about ScorpiVenom..but he is a good Venom so I couldnt count him as a new character....

Rahul

11-02-2007, 09:58 AM

That's stupid. Why not go for the classic psycho ideas?
Everyone wants it like ye golden days where villains were those shiny sparkly, motivation-less and "Curse You Spider-Man" villains. That's the point of Brand New Day. Make it like "Ye Olden Days".

Web_Spinner

11-02-2007, 10:17 AM

2. Fusion- He's got good powers, a lot of money and really hates Spider-man. There's a lot you can do with him, and the story in which he was introduced "one Small Break' was astounding.

Forgot about him, I loved those issues! The team-up with Doc Ock was awesome too!!

Rahul

11-02-2007, 11:16 AM

Forgot about him, I loved those issues! The team-up with Doc Ock was awesome too!!
The betrayal is classic Doc Ock....

The Master Meglomaniac

11-02-2007, 11:33 AM

Everyone wants it like ye golden days where villains were those shiny sparkly, motivation-less and "Curse You Spider-Man" villains. That's the point of Brand New Day. Make it like "Ye Olden Days".

You know they could just take some oft these old villains and give them better motives or expand their backstory. Frankly characters like Doc Ock and Vulture had their back stories expanded in the 90s, to the point that I did understand their motives. They can do that with almost any existing Spidey rogue.

Noronha

11-02-2007, 12:22 PM

You know they could just take some oft these old villains and give them better motives or expand their backstory. Frankly characters like Doc Ock and Vulture had their back stories expanded in the 90s, to the point that I did understand their motives. They can do that with almost any existing Spidey rogue.

I think Mark Millar(Jenkins too) tried to do that in Marvel Knights,and Dodson´s update on their costumes was great.

But i just don´t understand,everytime someone tries to do something different(especially new costumes)the other writters completly ignore it.
Electro comes to mind i loved his costume(Dodson´s) and he´s new attitude,but since then it was completly overlooked.

This only happens in spidey´s comics,it seems there´s this obsession in keeping the statues quo from the 60´s/70´s.

Ullar

11-02-2007, 12:58 PM

Morlun is cool. Ero is also the one of the 2 decent things to come out of the other. She was handeled well by PAD. I forog his name but the guy from the 1st arc of the other was pretty kewl.

Toku King

11-02-2007, 02:09 PM

The betrayal is classic Doc Ock....

Heck yeah! Dr. Octopus at his best.

CapnCaveman

11-02-2007, 02:24 PM

I miss the cheesy old villains he used to fight. The Molton Man, Dr. Octopus, Electro, etc. They all had cool themes and would beat/evade Spider-Man once, then get caught and go to jail. I miss that.

KetchFrayz

11-02-2007, 02:33 PM

I miss the cheesy old villains he used to fight. The Molton Man, Dr. Octopus, Electro, etc. They all had cool themes and would beat/evade Spider-Man once, then get caught and go to jail. I miss that.

before Back in Black, Sensational Spider-man had an arc with Chameleon, Electro, Molten Man, and a couple others as the villains.

Spidey-kid1

11-02-2007, 05:39 PM

I liked Morlun alot. Especially the first Morlun. Too bad he's dead. That other one was good two, but the first him was just too cool.

Mister Mets

11-02-2007, 06:17 PM

That's stupid. Why not go for the classic psycho ideas?
They'll have six months of new villains.

I'm sure some will be classic psychos.

The betrayal is classic Doc Ock....
Definitely. It was one of the best scenes from Jenkins's run.

Rahul

11-03-2007, 02:26 AM

Ero has lots of potential. i wouldnt mind her being a regular female Spider-villain. But this time there should be some tweakin g of her origin such that its ambigious whether she was a divine creation or mutate thing. Shriek should make a return as well...

Toku King

11-03-2007, 03:15 AM

before Back in Black, Sensational Spider-man had an arc with Chameleon, Electro, Molten Man, and a couple others as the villains.

Molten Man's been reformed for a long time, though.

PunisherFan

11-03-2007, 09:18 AM

Molten Man's been reformed for a long time, though.

Chameleon threatened him into working with them

Toku King

11-03-2007, 09:30 AM

Chameleon threatened him into working with them

Ok. That makes a lot more sense. Thanks for clearing that up.

Gavin Higginbotham, BotF

11-03-2007, 09:44 AM

I haven't enjoyed a new Spidey villain as much as I did when Kaine first showed up during the Clone Saga. I know that period gets a lot of stick but I maintain that Kaine was just about the most badass character to have been created in ages. The fact that he's a deranged clone of Peter Parker makes him all the more interesting.

That, and the "Mark of Kaine" hand-burning weapon was awesome.

Toku King

11-03-2007, 11:14 AM

Kaine was crappy.

PunisherFan

11-03-2007, 11:46 AM

matthewaos

11-03-2007, 12:51 PM

Kaine is all Peter don't want to be, BUT he is in a way Peter, so this makes him great, for my at least.
Fusion was good, and I think Killshot was also good, although it was just a oneshot story. I never liked Morlun, especially as he was further explored. Gargan Venom is great, and gave life to both.

Sean Whitmore

11-03-2007, 02:42 PM

Ok. That makes a lot more sense. Thanks for clearing that up.

It makes less sense than you think. Chameleon used Raxton by threatening some random kid he was playing Big Brother to, and this was apparently enough reason for him to act against his own flesh-and-blood sister Liz.

SEAN

Gavin Higginbotham, BotF

11-04-2007, 06:18 AM

i liked Kaine as well, just afraid to say it cuz i didn't want to get lynched. lol Just sucks that b/c he's a clone he will never ever be back

Ah, who cares what others think? Kaine was cool. The way he was rammed down the readers throats wasn't necessarily the best way to handle him, ie. whupping Doctor Octopus and killing him.

However, Kaine was (as matthewaos pointed out) a representation of Peter's dark side. He was more powerful and more ruthless, he'd kill in order to win and he'd not think twice about other people's perceptions of him.

Plus, Kaine's motives for his actions also made him interesting. He loved Peter so much that he was willing to sacrifice any kind of life for himself by keeping Ben Reilly away from him. His sole goal in life was to protect Peter, his younger brother. I love that it was brotherly love that made him do whatever he needed to do.

And besides anything else, Kaine just plain looked cool.

matthewaos

11-04-2007, 06:26 AM

Yeah, and I think that now (or whenever after the clone saga) Kaine will be a great addition. I mean after the revelation as to who is the original, Kaine must really hate Peter, and I think that he may go to kill Osborn.

Alan2099

11-04-2007, 07:05 AM

Kaine was a god one, also from that time period, the Grim Hunter had some real potential. Too bad Kaine killed him off and they stuck us with that lame-o "Al Kraven."

worstblogever

11-04-2007, 07:07 AM

It makes less sense than you think. Chameleon used Raxton by threatening some random kid he was playing Big Brother to, and this was apparently enough reason for him to act against his own flesh-and-blood sister Liz.

SEAN

Random kid? That was Normie Osborne, man. Which, you'd think Raxton would be cleaning toilets at Thunderbolts Mountain for messing with Norman's heir.

PunisherFan

11-04-2007, 11:11 AM

Random kid? That was Normie Osborne, man. Which, you'd think Raxton would be cleaning toilets at Thunderbolts Mountain for messing with Norman's heir.

Well chameleon and electro messed w/the kid and I'm gonna read that lne again b/c I'm pretty sure it was a random kid... might be wrong though

Sean Whitmore

11-04-2007, 12:11 PM

Random kid? That was Normie Osborne, man. Which, you'd think Raxton would be cleaning toilets at Thunderbolts Mountain for messing with Norman's heir.

That was Normie?

I'm gonna have to find the issue, cause I'm pretty sure it was a sponsor kid.

SEAN

matthewaos

11-04-2007, 04:14 PM

It's Normie. I checked it recently, when I was writing about those issues here:

http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=195643&page=3

(had to advertise it a bit...)

Toku King

11-12-2007, 08:12 AM

Nevermind. It makes a little sense, since Liz would've wanted it that way.

comicum18

11-12-2007, 08:33 AM

Morlun- the first arc whith him was almost perfect.
black tarantula- the funny thing his that it`s Ed Brubacker that is really using him in his full potencial in Daradevil
Spider wasp-(I believe that was her name) I liked the arc in which JMS created her.

If this thread teaches us anything is that it`s been a while since writers had the trouble to create great new villains that could last. I Hope Brand new day changes that.:p

Venom

11-12-2007, 09:48 AM

Carnage, Kaine, Black Tarantula and Morlun have been the best recent new villains in my view.

worstblogever

11-18-2007, 02:42 AM

There was Charlie Weiderman----> http://www.marvel.com/universe/Weiderman,_Charlie

He gets forgotten because he wasn't given a nickname. Of course, being in a vibranium bodysuit doesn't exactly make anything but the "vibrator" a lock for a name... and we know why that didn't happen.

There was the Queen, too. Other than the fact that Peter turned into a Man-Spider, that became a Spider that laid an egg that became Spidey... (W.T.F.?) I thought her purple-man like powers were kind of freaky.

Toku King

11-18-2007, 02:59 AM

Cody H

11-18-2007, 03:14 AM

Nah. Once again, I don't like the retcon.I don't understand how that's a retcon, exactly.

Toku King

11-18-2007, 03:21 AM

I don't understand how that's a retcon, exactly.

We just randomly get introduced to someone who was there at day one?

worstblogever

11-18-2007, 03:27 AM

We just randomly get introduced to someone who was there at day one?

Well, he got expelled not too long after, so Peter hadn't thought about him in years. In terms of retcons, that's far from the most grievous.

Cody H

11-18-2007, 03:41 AM

We just randomly get introduced to someone who was there at day one?It didn't really change anything though. It kind of just added to the backstory. Sure, we'd never heard of him before, but Charlie's existence didn't really contradict continuity in any way I noticed. I'm not sure, maybe I don't quite understand the term retcon, but if we use it in this kind of a context, the entire Untold Tales of Spider-Man series is a retcon.

Noronha

11-18-2007, 05:30 AM

Definitely not a retcon,he was introduced as being from a period before Peter gained his powers.

That time period from which we don´t have any knowledge,obviously Peter had a life before being bitten,a life that JMS gives us a glimpse.

Nothing was changed we simply are introduced to someone Peter knew when he was a kid nothing more.

I do agree he was an excellent villain and the whole arc was brilliant the way JMS dealt with Peter´s guilt and his attempts to redeem himself even though he knows it probably won´t work out.

This story arc of course got lost in the middle of Sins Past and The Other but to me shows just how good a writter Jms is when he´s not using magic a totem stuff.

He is an unbelievably good writter,he knows how Peter works he wrote the best aunt may and Mj ever.

Sean Whitmore

11-18-2007, 01:42 PM

Definitely not a retcon,he was introduced as being from a period before Peter gained his powers.

Well...no, he is a retcon. By definition, that's what he is.

That's not a bad thing or anything, but any childhood friend not created by Stan is, literally, a retcon.

SEAN

Ramiel

11-18-2007, 05:07 PM

I guess it depends on how recent you mean, if you mean within the 2000s then Morlun is the only villian that strikes as really anything noteworthy or special, but he unfortunately feels like a type-casted villian so to speak