Bad Ass

[xorn87]

Post the most badass pic of any mutant you can find. Here's mine...:evilsmile
http://www.fantomcomics.com/FEB072098_hi_CIVIL_WAR_FALLEN_SON_WOLVERINE.jpg

[creaky]

That is bad ass, but it's kind of an unfair advantage when you can get riddled full of bullets and still be able to pose for the camera.

It's also HOT. *fans self* I admit to having a slight Wolverine fetish, currently amplified by too much coffee and creamer.

[Pro]

http://www.marveldirectory.com/pictures/individuals/b_3d/blob.gif

Blob's ass is pretty bad, wouldn't want one as bad as that. Imagine trying to find a public toilet with an ass like that. That could turn out very bad indeed. Definitely a bad ass.

[creaky]

Blob's ass is pretty bad, wouldn't want one as bad as that. Imagine trying to find a public toilet with an ass like that. That could turn out very bad indeed. Definitely a bad ass.

There should be a "good ass" thread.

[Agent_Torpor]

http://www.marveldirectory.com/pictures/individuals/b_3d/blob.gif

Blob's ass is pretty bad, wouldn't want one as bad as that. Imagine trying to find a public toilet with an ass like that. That could turn out very bad indeed. Definitely a bad ass.

Tres chic unitard!

[Monty_Cristo]

http://image.comicvine.com/uploads/item/5000/4280/172922-shortpack_400.jpg

[Monty_Cristo]

http://www.marveldirectory.com/pictures/individuals/b_3d/blob.gif

Blob's ass is pretty bad, wouldn't want one as bad as that. Imagine trying to find a public toilet with an ass like that. That could turn out very bad indeed. Definitely a bad ass.

he's from Texas. don't they just pop a squat anywhere and brag about the size of it? :confused:

[CyberHubbs]

One of my favorite images from the 80s.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y196/CyberHubbs/uxm210.jpg

[Slung]

Jean Grey - Ultimate bad ass!
http://a259.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/66/l_d16467d0888fafa4cd605f0f63f589da.jpg

[Michael Sean]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v40/newmsgt/nxm139_07.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v40/newmsgt/200px-Endsong1.png

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Can't recall a recent pic of a good guy looking crazier/scarier while saying how he couldn't be of any use in a fight. :D

http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee206/DarthCyclopsRLZ/Cyke-Psycho.jpg

[StarPhoenix]

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f33/bflmarmo/AstonishingX-Menv2052004sammpuar-DC.jpg

[Faded]

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/2969/xforce65qv4.jpg
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/5725/xforce72rf7.jpg

[CyberHubbs]

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f33/bflmarmo/AstonishingX-Menv2052004sammpuar-DC.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y196/CyberHubbs/Colossusreturn.jpg

[CE_Rap]

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/2969/xforce65qv4.jpg
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/5725/xforce72rf7.jpg

*koff* didn't see that coming *koff**koff*

[CyberHubbs]

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/2969/xforce65qv4.jpg
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/5725/xforce72rf7.jpg

They all look gay.

Not that there's anything wrong with that!

[Canemacar]

Post the most badass pic of any mutant you can find. Here's mine...:evilsmile
http://www.fantomcomics.com/FEB072098_hi_CIVIL_WAR_FALLEN_SON_WOLVERINE.jpg

One thing I really about that pic I like is how lined and aged Wolverine's face is. I makes him look like the scary old man he.

But as far as "riddled with holes and posing" thing goes, I prefer this:

http://image.comicvine.com/uploads/item/2000/1440/101754-wolverine_400.JPG

[frog]

But as far as "riddled with holes and posing" thing goes, I prefer this:

http://image.comicvine.com/uploads/item/2000/1440/101754-wolverine_400.JPG

Heh. I like that! I get the feeling he's more pissed about his book than the holes in his hide.

[We R. Venom]

One thing I really about that pic I like is how lined and aged Wolverine's face is. I makes him look like the scary old man he.

But as far as "riddled with holes and posing" thing goes, I prefer this:

http://image.comicvine.com/uploads/item/2000/1440/101754-wolverine_400.JPG

Yeah that right there is extremely Bad Ass.

[hugekent]

Yeah that right there is extremely Bad Ass.
That's gonna be hard to top.

[StarPhoenix]

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f33/bflmarmo/Untitled.jpg

Rasputin bad-asses
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f33/bflmarmo/143534-illyana-rasputin_150.jpg

[Faded]

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/9990/monetdt1.jpg

[We R. Venom]

That's gonna be hard to top.

Yeah, I cant find scans like this. Dont know where to look or what to type in.

[Canemacar]

Yeah, I cant find scans like this. Dont know where to look or what to type in.

Try comicvine.com. The site itself is mostly crap, but they've got a good archive of character pictures.

[frog]

Bad ass Beast!
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g123/frog-pond/img05698ls.jpg
Um, not so bad ass Wolverine.

[Fatguy]

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/9376/colossuspictureaa8.jpg

[We R. Venom]

Try comicvine.com. The site itself is mostly crap, but they've got a good archive of character pictures.

Your right. It was mostly crap. Some good pics though, thanks.

[xorn87]

How's about these...
http://image.comicvine.com/uploads/item/2000/1461/60700-nightcrawler_400.jpg
http://image.comicvine.com/uploads/item/4000/3548/149227-kitty-pryde_400.jpg
http://image.comicvine.com/uploads/item/2000/1441/179255-magneto_400.jpg

[xorn87]

How's about these...
http://image.comicvine.com/uploads/item/2000/1461/60700-nightcrawler_400.jpg
http://image.comicvine.com/uploads/item/4000/3548/149227-kitty-pryde_400.jpg
http://image.comicvine.com/uploads/item/2000/1441/179255-magneto_400.jpg

[xorn87]

How's about these...
http://image.comicvine.com/uploads/item/2000/1461/60700-nightcrawler_400.jpg
http://image.comicvine.com/uploads/item/4000/3548/149227-kitty-pryde_400.jpg
http://image.comicvine.com/uploads/item/2000/1441/179255-magneto_400.jpg

[Rubicant]

Anyone got a scan of James Proudstar with that giant thunderbird tattoo across his back? That was badass and hot!

[streator]

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/6521/xmu47ep0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/403/xmu214oc9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/2369/gambit31dfat3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[The Lucky One]

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/5725/xforce72rf7.jpg

Greatest cover ever.

-D

[steve2275]

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f33/bflmarmo/Untitled.jpg

Rasputin bad-asses
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f33/bflmarmo/143534-illyana-rasputin_150.jpg


their reactions to the transformers movie dvd being all sold out at target

[The Lucky One]

their reactions to the transformers movie dvd being all sold out at target

I dunno, they don't look too happy to me.

-D

[steve2275]

http://image.comicvine.com/uploads/item/2000/1460/7844-colossus_400.jpg

[blinkinrogue]

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/9990/monetdt1.jpg

seal of approval (if only for the "uncharacteristic" M action in this one). :D

[RoguishGurl]

I don't care what anyone says, this is bad ass!!
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/4810/6higaqqgu6.jpg

[FortKnox]

http://image.comicvine.com/uploads/item/3000/2157/157365-cable_400.jpg

http://image.comicvine.com/uploads/item/3000/2157/190292-cable_400.jpg

http://image.comicvine.com/uploads/item/3000/2157/163878-cable_400.jpg

[Askani's Flame]

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f217/saphoenix/Rachel/Illyana.jpg

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f217/saphoenix/Rachel/13273_Rachel-summers-phoenix.jpg

[Agent_Torpor]

http://emmafrostfiles.com/images/covers/ef7.jpg

Mmm, love me some Frost with platform boots.

[Matthew K.]

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/7185/madroxthemultiplein5.png (http://imageshack.us)
http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/161/characterbeltyh2.png (http://imageshack.us)
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/6916/catseyethehellioneg3.png (http://imageshack.us)

I made 'em for two of my favorite mondo awesome characters.

[Speed]

http://martindrange.abcblogg.no/images/roguexmen192_1180896826.jpg

[xorn87]

http://image.comicvine.com/uploads/item/2000/1503/57061-bishop_400.jpg

[xorn87]

http://image.comicvine.com/uploads/item/4000/3183/161566-xorn_400.jpg

[xorn87]

http://image.comicvine.com/uploads/item/4000/3188/135204-blackwing_400.jpg

[Spamzilla]

http://image.comicvine.com/uploads/item/2000/1503/57061-bishop_400.jpg

Haha that's awesome, Bishop looks like he should be in one of the Mad Max movies.

[Novaya Havoc]

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b41/havoc1/sexy_mimic.jpg

[worstblogever]

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b41/havoc1/sexy_mimic.jpg
Whose firm buttocks are displayed in shadow here?

It's just that I try to make sure I know the differenece between X-cheeks. Really.

[Gene M.]

Whose firm buttocks are displayed in shadow here?

It's just that I try to make sure I know the differenece between X-cheeks. Really.
That was from the special issues of Exiles guest starring Gene Marsh.

[Novaya Havoc]

Whose firm buttocks are displayed in shadow here?

It's just that I try to make sure I know the differenece between X-cheeks. Really.

Exiles' Mimic. A mighty fine tuckus! <3

[worstblogever]

That was from the special issues of Exiles guest starring Gene Marsh.

Damn, Gene. You've been working out, bro.

[Gene M.]

Damn, Gene. You've been working out, bro.
A little sumthin' sumthin'.

[FortKnox]

http://image.comicvine.com/uploads/vol/6000/5567/5567-41776-1-x-man_400.jpg

http://image.comicvine.com/uploads/item/16000/15051/163848-x-man_400.jpg

[rwsmith]

http://image.comicvine.com/uploads/item/3000/2157/190292-cable_400.jpg

Great pic! You know what I hate? Somewhere along the way the X-office forgot that Cable was a grizzled old, hairy-chested hardass. They all draw him as smooth as Cyclops now, unfortunately.:(

[Slung]

Great pic! You know what I hate? Somewhere along the way the X-office forgot that Cable was a grizzled old, hairy-chested hardass. They all draw him as smooth as Cyclops now, unfortunately.:(

Maybe he's been waxing. More and more girls want their men smooth I guess. I don't know. Ask a chick.

[Agent_Torpor]

This thread has devolved to mid-90s Liefeldian madness. phew.

[Slung]

http://tentative.net/mfiles/gallery/genx3.jpg
Monet and Penance are badass!

[Nachturne]

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b41/havoc1/sexy_mimic.jpg

There is nothing bad about Mimic's ass.

Though....this gives me an idea for another thread. I wonder if it's against the rules...

[xorn87]

yeah, i already tried and they took my thread down.:eek:

[Brian M.]

http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/2217/mc4dt7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[CmX]

http://tentative.net/mfiles/gallery/genx3.jpg
Monet and Penance are badass!

I loves me some Penny! <3

[RoguishGurl]

http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/2217/mc4dt7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Yeah, Emma definately looks badass in that picture. :D
Don't kill me and don't hate me. I couldn't resist!! I'm sorry!!

[Cerridwen]

rachel

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v25/cerridwen/rachel2.jpg

[Schuimend Mormel]

rachel

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v25/cerridwen/rachel2.jpg

Whoa, that's Rachel? Is this from 'Cable'? I NEED to have it.

[Michael Sean]

I always liked that panel of Rachel from Cable. I always thought that Weinberg probably had her saying "I am Phoenix" but had to change it to "I am Justice" because at the same time Rachel was like that, Jean was like this...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v40/newmsgt/p_je8.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v40/newmsgt/revjean2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v40/newmsgt/sfc.jpg

[StarPhoenix]

Dani in X-Men: The End. Spectacular.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f33/bflmarmo/Dani.jpg

[Joe Franklin]

http://groups.msn.com/artofjimlee/xmen.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=1385

Old school Jim Lee X-Men Bad Assery.:cool:

[CyberHubbs]

http://groups.msn.com/artofjimlee/xmen.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=1385
Old school Jim Lee X-Men Bad Assery.:cool:

Hell, yeah. That should be the regular costume design for Colossus.

[Slung]

Dani in X-Men: The End. Spectacular.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f33/bflmarmo/Dani.jpg

Now, it's my turn. Classic.

[xorn87]

http://image.comicvine.com/uploads/item/16000/15072/46467-maggott_400.jpg

[xorn87]

http://image.comicvine.com/uploads/item/41000/40583/97989-kid-omega_400.jpg
Quentin Quire...

[xorn87]

http://image.comicvine.com/uploads/item/42000/41733/88606-tito_400.jpg

[EmmaFrost]

Some of these images are actually funny! Here are my pics....

http://emmafrostfiles.com/images/covers/axm19.jpg

http://emmafrostfiles.com/images/covers/axm12variant.jpg

http://emmafrostfiles.com/images/covers/uxm131.jpg

http://emmafrostfiles.com/images/covers/mcx1.jpg

[EmmaFrost]

http://emmafrostfiles.com/images/scans/axm1-2.jpg

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/8/83/Cyclops_x-men_legends_2.jpg

http://emmafrostfiles.com/images/covers/xpe4.jpg

http://www.comiccreator.org.uk/savephoenix/images/phoenixendsong.jpg

[Alan2099]

http://emmafrostfiles.com/images/covers/ef7.jpg

Mmm, love me some Frost with platform boots.

I don't see that as badass. It just looks more like a cold slightly embaressed stripper to me.

[rwsmith]

A personal favorite of mine:

http://membres.lycos.fr/thalys/thanos/xmen/gal/Arcwolvi.jpg

[Fatguy]

A personal favorite of mine:

http://membres.lycos.fr/thalys/thanos/xmen/gal/Arcwolvi.jpg

That is pretty freaking sweet.

Call me crazy, but I miss razor wing Archangel! Blueskin4evah!

[Alan2099]

That is pretty freaking sweet.

Call me crazy, but I miss razor wing Archangel! Blueskin4evah!

You're not the only one. I thought he was more more useful, and looked cooler with the metal wings. personally, I preferred when he wore the Archangel outfit without the headpiece, though.
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/7500/archangelxm94fku7.th.jpg (http://img88.imageshack.us/my.php?image=archangelxm94fku7.jpg)

[Monty_Cristo]

I don't see that as badass. It just looks more like a cold slightly embaressed stripper to me.

she's quite brave for someone taking a dump out in public; especially while wearing white.

[Fatguy]

she's quite brave for someone taking a dump out in public; especially while wearing white.

It takes more courage for someone to crap in public wearing white?

Was the picture drawn after labor day?

[HeckBoy]

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/2969/xforce65qv4.jpg
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/5725/xforce72rf7.jpg

Who's the black-haired girl supposed to be?

[Tobias March]

Could be wrong, but I think that's Risque...

Hell Pollina just rules. Well it's her or Dani.

[streator]

Could be wrong, but I think that's Risque...

Hell Pollina just rules. Well it's her or Dani.

it's risque in the first image, moonstar in the second.

[Canemacar]

And thats Warpath in both correct?

[CyberHubbs]

And thats Warpath in both correct?

Can't be. Warpath's fists don't glow.

Sunspot?

[worstblogever]

And thats Warpath in both correct?

Warpath in the top one, Sunspot in the bottom one. (insert tops and bottoms joke here).

[Jack Flash]

you got the top and bottom right Worstblog.

[rwsmith]

Say what you want about Liefield, but he drew a bad ass Cable:

http://www.uncannyxmen.net/covers/cable/cable75.jpg

My favorite Cable image, however, is from X-Tinction Agenda (same story that the Wolverine image I posted above is from). Unfortunately I can't find it anywhere online. It's that panel of him holding a pistol and aiming it at Hodge while Hodge hides behind Psylocke. IMO that picture is the epitome of "bad ass."

[worstblogever]

you got the top and bottom right Worstblog.

In the sex way, or the art way?

Answer? Yes.

[rwsmith]

Another good one:

http://www.legionnairecomics.com/web/marvel/tpb_73b.jpg

For some reason X-Tinction Agenda had a lot of "bad ass" images. Probably because of Jim Lee.

[chemicalx]

bad ass storm

http://www.gangus.net/X2%20update/Storm.jpg

http://www.gangus.net/X2%20update/future_storm.jpg

http://megatrouble.files.wordpress.com/2007/04/storm_turner_variant.jpg

[Cribba]

chemicalx:
That first one was awesome, who drew it?

[matthewaos]

Another good one:

http://www.legionnairecomics.com/web/marvel/tpb_73b.jpg

For some reason X-Tinction Agenda had a lot of "bad ass" images. Probably because of Jim Lee.

I love those 90s covers!

[ecthelion]

Anyone got a scan of James Proudstar with that giant thunderbird tattoo across his back? That was badass and hot!

what issue was that? Anyone got pic?

[CyberHubbs]

Mohawk Storm. Hell, yeah.

Anyone got that as a wallpaper?

[Michael Sean]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v40/newmsgt/XFACPHX.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v40/newmsgt/new_8.jpg

[CyberHubbs]

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y196/CyberHubbs/darkphoenix05.jpg

[GoingGreen]

@Chemicalx: Ever since the 90's, I've hated all of Storm's appearances. That being said, she's rockin' the mowhawk!

However, whenever I see that (imo) heinous picture of her in that nude bathingsuit, I always get the the feeling that we can rest assure that her carpets match the drapes. *vomits* not what I want to see on Storm.

Not saying others aren't entitled to like it, but c'mon. Marvel only produced that for sex.

[chemicalx]

@Chemicalx: Ever since the 90's, I've hated all of Storm's appearances. That being said, she's rockin' the mowhawk!

However, whenever I see that (imo) heinous picture of her in that nude bathingsuit, I always get the the feeling that we can rest assure that her carpets match the drapes. *vomits* not what I want to see on Storm.

Not saying others aren't entitled to like it, but c'mon. Marvel only produced that for sex.

I can see what you mean but considering storm originally had no problem going around with no cloths on at all and wore either a bikini or a thong in 3/4 of her outfits I dont see this as a big stretch but I understand how some people might not like it. I think its a pretty cool image though.


how about these

http://www.wrathoftherunt.com/wotr/stormpic/storm-dreds.jpg

http://www.mixtape.gr/uploads/comic/reviews/uncannyxmen.jpg

[Diablito]

Bachalo Storm Is Amazing!!!!

[Joe Franklin]

Bachalo Storm Is Amazing!!!!

True. But everything Bachalo draws is amazing. He has a very unique style, while sometimes very overcrowded and busy, it is still very dynamic and unique looking none the less.:cool:

[Super Cyclops]

Great Cyclops moments.:cool:

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/9290/ss01wl8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Congo Jack]

The ultimate moment of Wolverine bad assery:
http://www.typingmonkeys.com/images/Wbestshotba.jpg
For me, still the coolest image ever to appear in an X-book.

[ProfeZZor X]

http://www.marveldirectory.com/pictures/individuals/b_3d/blob.gif

Blob's ass is pretty bad, wouldn't want one as bad as that. Imagine trying to find a public toilet with an ass like that. That could turn out very bad indeed. Definitely a bad ass.

Pretty good posture for a big man like that.

[Cerridwen]

both of them
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v25/cerridwen/ux207p24.jpg

ugly scan though

[ProfeZZor X]

I never get tired of this one...

http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hruncxmenv130213ug2.jpg

[ImpulseUCF]

The ultimate moment of Wolverine bad assery:
http://www.typingmonkeys.com/images/Wbestshotba.jpg
For me, still the coolest image ever to appear in an X-book.Yeah, it's pretty tough to beat. And as an aside... this was also 30 years ago when "You did your best...NOW IT'S MY TURN!!!" was still fresh and cool. Oh, silly CC, you don't need to have somebody say that in every issue now... but I digress. This is hardly the time or place.

[chemicalx]

chemicalx:
That first one was awesome, who drew it?


I dont know who drew but i love it too

[The Horhey]

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l226/Horhey420/Wolverine/Wolverine%20vs%20Hulk/vsgrayhulkyk0-1.jpg

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l226/Horhey420/Wolverine/kubert_magneto_wolverinecolor.jpg

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l226/Horhey420/Wolverine/wolverine23ya3-2.jpg

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l226/Horhey420/Wolverine/Wolverine%20vs%20Sabretooth/may078095.jpg

[rwsmith]

Hell yeah, Horhey! All great choices.

[worstblogever]

The ultimate moment of Wolverine bad assery:
http://www.typingmonkeys.com/images/Wbestshotba.jpg
For me, still the coolest image ever to appear in an X-book.

It's hard to look bad*ss with sh*t on your face. But yeah, he managed.

[Titan76]

I never get tired of this one...

http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hruncxmenv130213ug2.jpg
What issue was that in?

[Swashbuckler]

both of them
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v25/cerridwen/ux207p24.jpg

ugly scan though

finally, someone stabbed the bitch! I hate Rachel!

[Canemacar]

What issue was that in?

Fall of the Mutants by the looks of it.

[GoingGreen]

Great Cyclops moments.:cool:

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/9290/ss01wl8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Logan is so dirty in love there.

[chemicalx]

http://www.marvel.com/universe3zx/images/5/56/Magneto442px.jpg

[rage6839]

My man Bishop.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/rage6839/bishop05.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/rage6839/bishop2yq8.jpg

And my Girl Storm
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/rage6839/Storm.jpg

[jmc247]

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f132/jmc247/uncanny_x-men_426_p07.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f132/jmc247/uxm111pg17.jpg

[pariah-1972]

Marvels biggest mistake was letting Jim lee go.:(

[xorn87]

Yeah, but whos to asy they couldnt get him to do specials like Silvestri.

[pariah-1972]

Yeah, but whos to asy they couldnt get him to do specials like Silvestri.Now or when he left the company?
now he can't even keep up with the one book hes on.
Tho if he ever came back to Marvel or X-men i would probably be pretty happy.
which is weird cause i hate 90's looking artwork and i hate his wildcats stuff.
ugh im so confused.:(

[The Horhey]

Some bad ass Wolverine reflex feats..

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l226/Horhey420/Wolverine/wolbulletnd9qi6-1.jpg

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l226/Horhey420/Wolverine/xmen_v2_133_p04.jpg

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l226/Horhey420/Wolverine/opticdodge1py1.jpg

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l226/Horhey420/Wolverine/Wolverine%20vs%20Captain%20America/cyclopssucks04hy7.jpg

[Slung]

Marvels biggest mistake was letting Jim lee go.:(

Marvel's biggest mistake was stroking Jim's ego until he thought he WAS the X-Men (and the greatest artist ever) and left to make his own company and his own X-Men (ala Wildcats). Fortunately, he is a nice guy or I'd hate him always for shoving Claremont off the title.

Badass JEAN!
http://a874.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/119/l_1ad8bf32d40af7a83e3d39aad7ee8401.jpg

http://a212.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/108/l_99796e9a4274b7094ee25189c76037a3.jpg

[pariah-1972]

Marvel's biggest mistake was stroking Jim's ego until he thought he WAS the X-Men (and the greatest artist ever) and left to make his own company and his own X-Men (ala Wildcats). Fortunately, he is a nice guy or I'd hate him always for shoving Claremont off the title.

Badass JEAN!
http://a874.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/119/l_1ad8bf32d40af7a83e3d39aad7ee8401.jpg

http://a212.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/108/l_99796e9a4274b7094ee25189c76037a3.jpg

Why was claremont not being on the title his fault exactly?
i dont think its marvels fault he got a big ego, its the speculators who made his first x men issue number one.

[Slung]

Why was claremont not being on the title his fault exactly?
i dont think its marvels fault he got a big ego, its the speculators who made his first x men issue number one.

Jim decided he wanted to plot the X-Men and he went behind Claremont's back to Harras. It became big drama and Claremont ended up being no longer on the book he had been working on for the past 17 years and Jim was left plotting the book. Year later and Jim was gone - deciding if he was that cool, he could start his own comic book company. It was Marvel that took Jim's side over Claremont's - they said "the artist is more important the writer!"

Monet Kicking Ass with words!! She's so pretty and smart!
http://image.comicvine.com/uploads/item/41000/40460/177645-m_400.jpg

[Canemacar]

http://image.comicvine.com/uploads/item/2000/1459/31217-cyclops_400.jpg

http://image.comicvine.com/uploads/item/2000/1459/40583-cyclops_400.jpg

http://image.comicvine.com/uploads/item/2000/1459/100418-cyclops_400.jpg

[jmc247]

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f132/jmc247/phoenix_vs_magneto2.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f132/jmc247/jmc3-1.jpg

[Polaris Rocks]

Jim decided he wanted to plot the X-Men and he went behind Claremont's back to Harras. It became big drama and Claremont ended up being no longer on the book he had been working on for the past 17 years and Jim was left plotting the book. Year later and Jim was gone - deciding if he was that cool, he could start his own comic book company. It was Marvel that took Jim's side over Claremont's - they said "the artist is more important the writer!"

That's a sad story, mostly for the fans.

[pariah-1972]

That's a sad story, mostly for the fans.True Claremont was still on top form, and i cant think of any other writing Jim Lee has done.

[xorn87]

he wrote Deathblow when it first came out.

[rage6839]

Earlier Bishop I photo-shopped

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/rage6839/Bishop2.jpg

[xmanson]

Monet Kicking Ass with words!! She's so pretty and smart!
http://image.comicvine.com/uploads/item/41000/40460/177645-m_400.jpg

The good old Bachalo from ages past....

Somewhere along the way his talent just went away...

[Slung]

The good old Bachalo from ages past....

Somewhere along the way his talent just went away...

I still love Bachalo, but yeah - his first four issues of GenX (and four issues of Gen Next) were his best stuff EVER. Followed closely by GenX 5,6, 17-2?. Pretty much until Lobdell left.

[Slyfer]

Not bad ass, simply Astonishing

http://www.just-marvel-x-men.com/image-files/astonishing-x-men-1-100k.jpg

[chastmastr]

It's also HOT. *fans self* I admit to having a slight Wolverine fetish, currently amplified by too much coffee and creamer.

I wholeheartedly concur. :)

David

[Slyfer]

I bought the entire set of these X-men book by Austen ( :gags: ) just for the covers, which are some of Larroca's best work
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h269/xsmdude/Havok/XMEN161.jpg

[Slyfer]

One Bad Mother F***KER

http://pnmedia.gamespy.com/planetxmen.gamespy.com/images/solicits/200612/ultimatexmen-77.jpg

[Slyfer]

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/f/f0/220px-Ultimate_Cable.jpg

[Slyfer]

http://www.newsarama.com/NewJoeFridays/NJF5art/XMEN192COVER_400.jpg

[Slyfer]

Yes the love for Cable is High, he is the baddest X-man period in my eyes, the first dude to take on Wolverine and Bishop

http://www.uncannyxmen.net/covers/previews/cabledeadpool25.jpg

[Brian M.]

Yes the lovefor Cable is High, he is the baddest X-men period in my eyes, the first dude to take on Wolverine and Bishop

http://www.uncannyxmen.net/covers/previews/cabledeadpool25.jpg

Cyclops was kicking Wolverine's ass long before Cable.

But that CnD #25 cover is one of the best issues ever.

[chastmastr]

A personal favorite of mine:

http://membres.lycos.fr/thalys/thanos/xmen/gal/Arcwolvi.jpg

Oh! What issue is this from?

David

[Slyfer]

Cyclops was kicking Wolverine's ass long before Cable.

But that CnD #25 cover is one of the best issues ever.



Indeed :cool:

[Slyfer]

MARC SILVESTRI on NEW X-MEN

http://www.fractalmatter.com/images/wolverine.jpg

[worstblogever]

I bought the entire set of these X-men book by Austen ( :gags: ) just for the covers, which are some of Larroca's best work
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h269/xsmdude/Havok/XMEN161.jpg

Ah... you just reminded me how lame Blind Gambit was.

[Slyfer]

Mags (he was once an X-men) lol


darn

[Slyfer]

my magneto isn't showing :( :confused:

anyways, JC you are my hero
http://www.rogers-md.net/v/wallpapers/astonishing-x-men.jpg

[pariah-1972]

I guess lorroca proves you can polish a turd.

[FortKnox]

http://image.comicvine.com/uploads/item/8000/7616/40691-stryfe_400.jpg

[Slyfer]

I guess lorroca proves you can polish a turd.

at least we got Xorn and Exodus lol

[creaky]

http://image.comicvine.com/uploads/item/8000/7616/40691-stryfe_400.jpg

No. Just no. Points off for metal diapers and generally trying too hard.

[Faded]

Ah... you just reminded me how lame Blind Gambit was.

How did that happen again?

It was a nice look at least.

[Maestro]

http://img31.picoodle.com/img/img31/6/11/3/f_x23m_41e55ea.jpg

http://img33.picoodle.com/img/img33/6/11/3/f_x9m_a0b75e7.jpg

http://img34.picoodle.com/img/img34/6/11/3/f_wwhm_60b034b.jpg

[Alan2099]

No. Just no. Points off for metal diapers and generally trying too hard.

I always thought he pulled off the look, despite all logic against it.

[chastmastr]

*blink* X-23 has claws on her feet?? :eek:

[Slung]

How about this!!

http://www.thephoenixxx.com/jeangrey/jean/jeanpicspage/jeangallery6/images/x042.jpg

Oops, wrong picture.

http://hem.passagen.se/johnh1/pics/p_jea4.jpg

Edit: huh, my picture isn't working. If you click on "open picture in another window" or something, it works. Weird.

[Slyfer]

*blink* X-23 has claws on her feet?? :eek:

yep, Logan knows them well :cool:

[xmanson]

Nice when Logan go his face slashed by X-23 in Uncanny some time ago.

Can anyone posts the page of Logan tearing through Lady Deathstrike from Uncanny 205? Those were bad ass.

[FortKnox]

I always thought he pulled off the look, despite all logic against it.

Me too. I thought the costume looked great once someone other then Liefeld drew it. But, if I had to change one thing I would have made the helmet smaller.

[dotdotdot]

yknow jim lee would never work if he returned to xmen. everyone would always look like they were posing for a pinup like in that shot from xmen 9 (right?) above....that shit just wouldn't play these days. now for covers.......sure, why not.

i know he's never returning but i'm just addressing that wet dream that we all have. its not that great.

[Canemacar]

yknow jim lee would never work if he returned to xmen. everyone would always look like they were posing for a pinup like in that shot from xmen 9 (right?) above....that shit just wouldn't play these days. now for covers.......sure, why not.

Silvistri and Larocca seem to do just fine.

[worstblogever]

How did that happen again?

It was a nice look at least.

It happened in battle, against the Chinese superhuman forces when they were trying to gain custody of the SECOND Xorn. Is that worth your eyes? I think not.

[dotdotdot]

Silvistri and Larocca seem to do just fine.

they dont actually. neither of them are suited for these books, and as much as i love silvestri occasionally (most of here comes tomorrow was great), his time in these books needs to be over.

[Lobsterdom]

http://img33.picoodle.com/img/img33/6/11/3/f_x9m_a0b75e7.jpg

Wheee!!!! Badass Ghostrider!!!!!.....um.......sorry, reflex.

[chastmastr]

Nice when Logan go his face slashed by X-23 in Uncanny some time ago.

Can anyone posts the page of Logan tearing through Lady Deathstrike from Uncanny 205? Those were bad ass.

As well as being one of my all-time favorite Logan stories on multiple levels...

[Canemacar]

they dont actually. neither of them are suited for these books, and as much as i love silvestri occasionally (most of here comes tomorrow was great), his time in these books needs to be over.

Your opinion doesn't seem to be indicative of the common consensus. Both have worked for Marvel for over a decade.

[dotdotdot]

Your opinion doesn't seem to be indicative of the common consensus. Both have worked for Marvel for over a decade.

i think common consensus is leaning toward larroca's work is pretty poor (put in the word "lately" if you want) and the silvestri art was nothing special on the one-shot. this doesn't mean they aren't right for other books, so i don't know what marvel's employment has to do with anything.

edit: wait this isn't on topic

http://forbiddenplanet.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/astonishing%20x-men%202%20cover.jpg

there. bad ass.

[xmanson]

As well as being one of my all-time favorite Logan stories on multiple levels...

Uncanny 205 is indeed a fantastic issue. Just re-read it last night. Oh, the good Logan of years past.

[Cribba]

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/9232/axm18ladygoboompo6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Now this!, this is bad ass :D

[xmanson]

Scott got chubby.

[Porcelain]

Last panel looks like Wolverine sans hair.

[Novaya Havoc]

http://image.comicvine.com/uploads/item/2000/1498/151945-dazzler_400.jpg

[Slyfer]

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/9232/axm18ladygoboompo6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Now this!, this is bad ass :D


I laughed so hard when i saw that, Cyclops FTW

[chastmastr]

Uncanny 205 is indeed a fantastic issue. Just re-read it last night. Oh, the good Logan of years past.

Yes. That speech at the end really sums up the nature of the character, and his basic goodness, for me...

Someday we'll get him back, I have faith.

David

[blinkinrogue]

rogue in the very first issue of carey's run with the flying fish from the aquarium effect after using the cyclops-emma combo.



blink kicking holocaust in the back after being thrown against a wall and/or teleporting hyperion's blast to his back (she likes backs i wonder why :confused: ).

[Cribba]

rogue in the very first issue of carey's run with the flying fish from the aquarium effect after using the cyclops-emma combo.
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/4908/roguexmen188nm4.th.jpg (http://img212.imageshack.us/my.php?image=roguexmen188nm4.jpg)

Delivered :]

[chemicalx]

bishop:

http://menomalecheesistono.oldiblog.com/sites/images/articles/134/article_1344444.jpg

meltdown

http://ultimatecomics.free.fr/xmen/images/x-force/Meltdown.jpg

Moonstar:

http://www.uncannyxmen.net/images/costume/moonstar-bigcostume5.jpg

[Congo Jack]

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/9232/axm18ladygoboompo6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Now this!, this is bad ass :D
Who let Frank Miller write crazy Cyclops? :p

[pariah-1972]

I used to really like the artwork on Astonishing but in no way does that close resemble Cyclops even on his worst day.
it looks more like a grim and gritty version of silver age Toad.

[FortKnox]

http://image.comicvine.com/uploads/item/4000/3179/189617-mr-sinister_400.jpg

http://image.comicvine.com/uploads/item/4000/3179/118169-mr-sinister_400.jpg

http://image.comicvine.com/uploads/item/4000/3179/30668-mr-sinister_400.jpg

[Canemacar]

http://image.comicvine.com/uploads/item/4000/3179/65835-mr-sinister_400.png

http://image.comicvine.com/uploads/item/4000/3179/84115-mr-sinister_400.jpg

[Rollo_Tomasi]

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/6550/uncx492covcolv3om9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Rollo_Tomasi]

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/1240/wolverine27cp3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[pariah-1972]

Yay more Sinister !

[jmc247]

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f132/jmc247/AvengersDisassembled2.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f132/jmc247/polarisdemon.jpg

[FortKnox]

http://image.comicvine.com/uploads/item/9000/8307/70711-maverick_400.jpg

http://image.comicvine.com/uploads/item/9000/8307/34571-maverick_400.jpg

http://image.comicvine.com/uploads/item/9000/8307/56095-maverick_400.jpg

http://image.comicvine.com/uploads/item/9000/8307/83275-maverick_400.jpg

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Who the hell is it on that last pic?

Reminds me of Snake-Eyes...

[worstblogever]

Who the hell is it on that last pic?

Reminds me of Snake-Eyes...

Maverick as Agent Zero from the Weapon X series, methinks.

[pariah-1972]

Who the hell is it on that last pic? Reminds me of Snake-Eyes...Actually his uniform resembles another joe called beachcomber quite a bit.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

You mean BeachHEAD, right?

[Matthew K.]

I like Polaris's medieval death costume.


[img]http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f132/jmc247/polarisdemon.jpg

[pariah-1972]

You mean BeachHEAD, right?I thought it was Beachcomber:confused:

[CyberHubbs]

Beachcomber was a Transformer, I think.

[pariah-1972]

Beachcomber was a Transformer, I think.You're right damnit ! (looking it up on wiki now:mad: )
thats the third time i've been wrong today ! i've been a bad bad fanboy:( :( :(

[jmc247]

I like Polaris's medieval death costume.

I liked it as well.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f132/jmc247/polarisupsidedown.jpg

[Matthew K.]

I liked it as well.



Yeah, it definately gives her an edge.

[pariah-1972]

I always found it odd that she likes to dress like a sorceress.

[Matthew K.]

I always found it odd that she likes to dress like a sorceress.

a color-coordinated one

[pariah-1972]

a color-coordinated oneMaybe shes actually colour blind and she has a mutant power to attract clothes in the exact same colour as her hair?

[Matthew K.]

Maybe shes actually colour blind and she has a mutant power to attract clothes in the exact same colour as her hair?

haha...that'd make for useful combat powers.

[Toboe]

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/2631/ultimatestormcf7.jpg

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/1957/ultimatestorm2tv7.jpg

[pariah-1972]

haha...that'd make for useful combat powers.Really? how so?:confused:

[Matthew K.]

Really? how so?:confused:

I'm just kidding. I mean, unless they were fighting at a fabric store or something & she could wrap the green garmets around all the enemies...

It would make Cypher's language power seem way more formidable as an opponent in battle though. haha.

[Toboe]

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/2521/ultimatewar0408zi2.jpg

[pariah-1972]

I'm just kidding. I mean, unless they were fighting at a fabric store or something & she could wrap the green garmets around all the enemies...

It would make Cypher's language power seem way more formidable as an opponent in battle though. haha.I was thinking you were kidding but wasn't sure.

[jmc247]

I always found it odd that she likes to dress like a sorceress.

In a way she is a sorceress. She communes with one of the fundimental forces of nature. Part of her wants a normal life, but part of her wants to be the Mistress of Magnitisim.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f132/jmc247/hompolaris2-1.jpg

[pariah-1972]

In a way she is a sorceress. She communes with one of the fundimental forces of nature. Part of her wants a normal life, but part of her wants to be the Mistress of Magnitisim.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f132/jmc247/hompolaris2-1.jpg

I guess it makes a certain amount of sense when you put it that way..
either that or you're a really good bs'er:p

[chastmastr]

I'm just kidding. I mean, unless they were fighting at a fabric store or something & she could wrap the green garmets around all the enemies...


It's been done, believe it or not. Spider-Woman's old foe Gypsy Moth, now called Skein, is a mutant with the ability to manipulate cloth. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skein_(comics))

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/gypsymoth1.jpg

[Canemacar]

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/2521/ultimatewar0408zi2.jpg

Please tell me this ended how it should have.

[Brian M.]

Please tell me this ended how it should have.

Ultimate War was great.

[pariah-1972]

I keep forgetting ultimate storm talks differently from regular storm..:(

[Matthew K.]

It's been done, believe it or not. Spider-Woman's old foe Gypsy Moth, now called Skein, is a mutant with the ability to manipulate cloth. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skein_(comics))

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/gypsymoth1.jpg

Hell...I remember her from an early Spiderwoman issue...she just kind of flew around town gathering Jessica Drew's attention & then she circulated over a party where she messed with people's clothes.

I almost forgot about that.

[pariah-1972]

She was a pretty original character/villian from what i recall, she should really play a bigger part in the marvel universe.

[pariah-1972]

Also don't like her new design she looks wayyyyyyy to slutty like someone you would pick up in a really seedy biker bar and not tell anyone.

[Toboe]

Please tell me this ended how it should have.

With Thor beating the crap out of her? Yeah, the next panel after that is a bad ass Thor coming towards her.

Ultimate War was so good, I'd say it's the best of Millar's run on UXM.

[chastmastr]

Hell...I remember her from an early Spiderwoman issue...she just kind of flew around town gathering Jessica Drew's attention & then she circulated over a party where she messed with people's clothes.

I almost forgot about that.

Kind of sounds like an escaped Hostess Fruit Pie villain, doesn't it? "Oh, no! That villain will disrupt the whole fashion show unless I use these Hostess Fruit Pies to distract her!"

[Matthew K.]

She was a pretty original character/villian from what i recall, she should really play a bigger part in the marvel universe.

Agreed. She, much like the majority of the supporting/background characters in Spiderwoman, was random, rather unique & I enjoyed it. She didn't seem evil from what I remember & I haven't seen her since that issue (and that was from the 1970s.) I like her strange sort of bond with Spiderwoman (at first anyway), even if it was more of Jessica just searching for someone she could relate to so she wouldn't feel so alone. Gypsy Moth's backstory/histoy was interesting as well.
Also don't like her new design she looks wayyyyyyy to slutty like someone you would pick up in a really seedy biker bar and not tell anyone.
Woah. I just googled her. The character design looks completley different (even a different hair color--like a new character.) You descirbed her well, Pariah.

I liked the hokey, brown-haired 70s Gypsy Moth version better than "Skein," but, again, I haven't even read the character since her first few issues so I don't really know her.

[pariah-1972]

With Thor beating the crap out of her? Yeah, the next panel after that is a bad ass Thor coming towards her.

Ultimate War was so good, I'd say it's the best of Millar's run on UXM.
i haven't read it in a while but im inclined to agree just for the part where Iceman freezes everything.

[pariah-1972]

Agreed. She, much like the majority of the supporting/background characters in Spiderwoman, was random, rather unique & I enjoyed it. She didn't seem evil from what I remember & I haven't seen her since that issue (and that was from the 1970s.) I like her strange sort of bond with Spiderwoman (at first anyway), even if it was more of Jessica just searching for someone she could relate to so she wouldn't feel so alone. Gypsy Moth's backstory/histoy was interesting as well.

Woah. I just googled her. The character design looks completley different (even a different hair color--like a new character.) You descirbed her well, Pariah.

I liked the hokey, brown-haired 70s Gypsy Moth version better than "Skein," but, again, I haven't even read the character since her first few issues so I don't really know her.
Yeah same with me ! and thanks for agreeing with me :D

[Matthew K.]

Kind of sounds like an escaped Hostess Fruit Pie villain, doesn't it? "Oh, no! That villain will disrupt the whole fashion show unless I use these Hostess Fruit Pies to distract her!"

Back in the day a whole Spiderwoman issue could be based on that plot. haha. Good comparison Chastmastr.

[chastmastr]

Back in the day a whole Spiderwoman issue could be based on that plot. haha. Good comparison Chastmastr.

:D Hey, beats a lot of what we have now, in my view... ;)

[Matthew K.]

:D Hey, beats a lot of what we have now, in my view... ;)

Thinking further into it...you know I bet we could even use a Hostess fruit pie from the 1970s & it would still taste the same as "fresh" one...all those damn preservatives & artifical addictives.

Mmm...I wonder if the WaWa sells them.

[jmc247]

I guess it makes a certain amount of sense when you put it that way..
either that or you're a really good bs'er:p

The alternative is to simply say the writers like dressing Lorna up in exotic sexual attire to bring in alot of male readership. Which, though true, doesn't sound as good.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f132/jmc247/HouseofM5-1-1.jpg

[pariah-1972]

The alternative is to simply say the writers like dressing Lorna up in exotic sexual attire to bring in alot of male readership. Which, though true, doesn't sound as good.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f132/jmc247/HouseofM5-1-1.jpg

Or she likes to dress exotically for attention?

[jmc247]

Or she likes to dress exotically for attention?

That is certainly a possibility

[pariah-1972]

That is certainly a possibilityIt's certaintly verifiable she has had a long history of self esteem and mental issues over the last couple of decades.

[Polaris Rocks]

It's certaintly verifiable she has had a long history of self esteem and mental issues over the last couple of decades.

She dressed really really sexy in X-Factor when she had self esteem issues.

[jmc247]

It's certaintly verifiable she has had a long history of self esteem and mental issues over the last couple of decades.

Yes. One other thing I have noticed is after each time she is mind controlled and/or forced to wear sexy attire she keeps that attire and wears it for quite awhile. At least her emotional and mental health problems haven't been as bad as Wanda's.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f132/jmc247/Polfrear-1.jpg

[Matthew K.]

Yes. One other thing I have noticed is after each time she is mind controlled and/or forced to wear sexy attire she keeps that attire and wears it for quite awhile. At least her emotional and mental health problems haven't been as bad as Wanda's.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f132/jmc247/Polfrear-1.jpg

Good call, jmc. Mike Carey, or some other equally great X-writer, should explore this storyline & juice some drama out of it.

[jmc247]

Good call, jmc. Mike Carey, or some other equally great X-writer, should explore this storyline & juice some drama out of it.

I would certainly like it if Mike Carey wrote her next year.

[jmc247]

She dressed really really sexy in X-Factor when she had self esteem issues.

Pietro certainly thought so.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f132/jmc247/X-Factor093-16.jpg

[GoingGreen]

She's been over her self esteem issues for a long time. It's Havok who's been portrayed with a perpetual low self esteem.

[pariah-1972]

She's been over her self esteem issues for a long time. It's Havok who's been portrayed with a perpetual low self esteem.What exactly do you consider a long time?

[GoingGreen]

Well, under Austen, the biggest complaint is that everyone was out of character. Lorna's temporary insanity (if you want to call it that) under Austen and even before Austen, I got. However, her psychotic jealousy over Nurse Annie, I did not get. Because it was out of character.

She got over insecurities during X-Factor, and was independent for a good while during her time on Genosha.

[pariah-1972]

Well, under Austen, the biggest complaint is that everyone was out of character. Lorna's temporary insanity (if you want to call it that) under Austen and even before Austen, I got. However, her psychotic jealousy over Nurse Annie, I did not get. Because it was out of character.

She got over insecurities during X-Factor, and was independent for a good while during her time on Genosha.You seem to be confusing self esteem with temporary insanity on you're post.
and you are talking about stuff thats in the past where i was hoping for something more current.

her temporary insanity was healed by Charles, but i don't think her self esteem issues are ever going to completely go away cause thats part of who the character is in some sense(depending on whos writing her of course)

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[GoingGreen]

You seem to be confusing self esteem with temporary insanity on you're post.
and you are talking about stuff thats in the past where i was hoping for something more current.

her temporary insanity was healed by Charles, but i don't think her self esteem issues are ever going to completely go away cause thats part of who the character is in some sense(depending on whos writing her of course)

Um, no. I wasn't confusing temporary insanity with self esteem. Why would I do that? I brought temp insanity UP because I was referencing Austen, and her psychotic jealousy plays on her self esteem. Where, in the present, has her self esteem been an issue? For that single issue when she lost her powers? Because that was clearly a temporary thing, considering she was immediately abducted by Apoc, and back to her old self again after that whole shpeal was dealt with.

[pariah-1972]

Um, no. I wasn't confusing temporary insanity with self esteem. Why would I do that? I brought temp insanity UP because I was referencing Austen, and her psychotic jealousy plays on her self esteem. Where, in the present, has her self esteem been an issue? For that single issue when she lost her powers? Because that was clearly a temporary thing, considering she was immediately abducted by Apoc, and back to her old self again after that whole shpeal was dealt with.Well she keeps saying that Pocy has changed her powers somehow, and she isn't quite as confident with how they work or how they have been changed as she used too,
and like i said self esteem doesn't just go away even tho she might be with Havok right now that has never changed the way she feels about herself eternally.
i don't think Xavier messed with any of that cause personally i think it would be going to far in helping her.


personally i like how she is this gorgeous woman who has men fighting for her all the time and is very powerfull but deep down inside has some insecurities, i think this makes her more relate able than possibly Jean Grey herself.

[GoingGreen]

She's never said she's less confident with her powers. She's only said they are more dangerous and harder for her to control. She's also had therapy sessions on specifically her self esteem issues (coincidentally, one being the same session that all of X-Factor had to go to, and it was revealed that Pietro wanted down her pants, which is such a gross thought now that we know they're siblings), and who knows what she and Xavier used to discuss in their meetings, other than Lorna's mental trauma.

I liked the idea back in the day, and I still like that she did have these issues, but we haven't seen any inclination that's she's insecure about her appearance. Look at the uniforms she wears. Her last one was a purple dominatrix uniform that accentuated her boobs and curves, and there was that issue she was nekkid in She Lies with Angels and Logan was staring her in the carpet, and she shrugged it off.

Plus, she's currently ready to 'beat Havok up' because of Alex's insecurities, so... I really don't think she's insecure anymore.

[pariah-1972]

She's never said she's less confident with her powers. She's only said they are more dangerous and harder for her to control. She's also had therapy sessions on specifically her self esteem issues (coincidentally, one being the same session that all of X-Factor had to go to, and it was revealed that Pietro wanted down her pants, which is such a gross thought now that we know they're siblings), and who knows what she and Xavier used to discuss in their meetings, other than Lorna's mental trauma.

I liked the idea back in the day, and I still like that she did have these issues, but we haven't seen any inclination that's she's insecure about her appearance. Look at the uniforms she wears. Her last one was a purple dominatrix uniform that accentuated her boobs and curves, and there was that issue she was nekkid in She Lies with Angels and Logan was staring her in the carpet, and she shrugged it off.

Plus, she's currently ready to 'beat Havok up' because of Alex's insecurities, so... I really don't think she's insecure anymore.I'm not going to sit here and argue point by point with you, but i know as someone who has dealt with a ton of self esteem problems,
that they don't just go away even when you are going thru some good times and feel more confidant about you're self and you're body.
things maybe going great for her right now but i can guarantee in the dark corners of her mind she is always going to have doubts and self esteem problems because those are INHERENT to who she is as a person.

and as for Pietro wanting to nail her -- he didn't know that they were related, and i am not going to believe that they are until i hear some proof being Lorna's dna sample and Magneto admitting he is he father (and not saying this too manipulate her to his side which he would do) and then telling her who her mother really is and that whole story,
which he gave to Wanda and Pietro and frankly i think she deserves some solid answers right now because i am sure that is hurting her self esteem not to the person she thinks of as a father to acknowlege her like he did the others.
the only reason im fighting this whole thing is because i know how the x-men editors and writers think and if they can tease us that little bit longer and then when they run out of ideas they can make a big event out of it and cash in like they did with Wolverines origins lately.

[GoingGreen]

Well, you can guarentee all you want, but every case is different, so I can disagree all I want. I'm not saying it was an overnight change. It isn't. And by "not insecure" anymore, I don't mean she is 100% Emma-confident. No. I mean she's much more confident than she is insecure, these days. She's about to fight off the Imperial Guard on her own, fighting with brass balls and (hopefully) not chiming in with, "I don't know if I can do this!"

Anyway, as for heritage, it was established. Pretty clearly. She took his DNA, got it tested. He DID acknowlege her as his daughter by making her heir. When he was "dead" and the three Magnus-spawn, Xavier and Wolvie went to Genosha, she was immediately worshipped by survivors. *shrugs* that's pretty indicative to me.

[The Lucky One]

Anyway, as for heritage, it was established. Pretty clearly. She took his DNA, got it tested. He DID acknowlege her as his daughter by making her heir. When he was "dead" and the three Magnus-spawn, Xavier and Wolvie went to Genosha, she was immediately worshipped by survivors. *shrugs* that's pretty indicative to me.

Just playing devil's advocate, she WAS extremely mentally unstable at the time she claimed the DNA test was positive. (And by mentally unstable I mean, you know, batpoop insane.) And being worshipped by survivors is no indicator, it's not like they have some scientific insight... they're beaten-down people looking for a savior, of course they'll believe someone who tells them she's the daughter of their former lord.

Personally, I'm not strongly in either camp, except for feeling that if Marvel wanted to make her Magneto's daughter (and yet another "so and so must be related, instead of just having the same power"), they need to actually publish a story that revolves around it and couldn't be told if she weren't his daughter. They haven't done that yet, but I'll keep waiting.

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[GoingGreen]

She wasn't mentally unstable when she had the test DONE. (Aside: And no, she's never been 'batpoop' insane. If she was, she would've killed everyone at her wedding instead of just knocking them unconscious. AS Paige said, she could've killed everyone if she wanted to. She didn't.)

Polaris said nothing to the people of Genosha about being Mags daughter. In that issue, she said that when she returned to Genosha, Mags had already announced it to the Genoshan citizens. They worshipped her the second she got there, but then the sentinels attacked.

Personally, I'm a pro-Lorna Lehnsherr. I'm almost positive it was a better way to market Lorna and give her more importance in the MU as a whole. I'm glad it did. She was a sideliner for a long time, and now she's back in the "A" crowd X-Men instead of X-Factor or Genosha. If Marvel listens to the fans, we'll eventually see something progress between Lorna and Mags. Otherwise, it might be forgotten for decades upon decades. Like the third Summers brother, or Cecilia Reyes' existence (miss her mucho).

[chastmastr]

Didn't they decide that some of Magneto's ethical/emotional swings (hero/villain etc.) was because his magnetic powers were messing with his brain? (Or did that get retconned away?) Perhaps they could use the same argument for Lorna's radical personality shifts over the years too... They came up with something similar for Namor (in his case, the balance between seawater and air, the oxygenation of his blood, etc.) also to explain his different depictions over the years. (Of course the real reason is the writers wanted to write them all differently. Myself I thought the gradual progression of Magneto from villain to hero in the early-mid 1980s made more sense, and was slowly built over years by Claremont, but then they kept changing their minds what to do with him...)

David

[chastmastr]

Like the third Summers brother

Who would have made more sense than Vulcan and the way his story went, in my opinion (Xavier's now been retconned into someone increasingly nasty), and was apparently intended to be "Adam-X."

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