Round 2 Public Vote - Closed [Archive] - Comic Book Resources Forums

Brandon Hanvey

10-23-2007, 09:30 PM

Please vote for the artist you would like to advance to the next round.

This poll will be open for 24 hours and will close on Thursday the 25th at 3 PM EST (12 PM PST) [Please ignore the time that the poll states since this poll was created earlier than the start time].

In order to vote, you must be a registered member of the CBR Forums.

Please only one vote per person.

If someone is found to be using multiple accounts, your votes will be subtracted and your accounts will be banned.

There is no prize for the winner this round since CB will pick his favorite.

The two contestants with the lowest amount of votes will be eliminated from the contest.

Feel to post your comments about the voting.

Here are the assignments for each contestant for Round 2:

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Jose Holder (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=194980)
Andrew Huerta (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=194963)
Dan McDaid (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=194966)
Caio Oliveira (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=194984)
Nick Pitarra (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=194948)
Jon Reed (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=194942)
Wilfredo Torres (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=194917)
Charles Paul Wilson III (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=194945)

Brandon Hanvey

10-24-2007, 01:02 PM

Round 2 voting is now open.

Goyo

10-24-2007, 01:05 PM

First vote for Caio Oliveira here!

Gonzogoose

10-24-2007, 01:13 PM

I had to stick with CPW. His storytelling and overall art just surpassed the rest in my opinion, though all were great this round.

Victor Rolf

10-24-2007, 01:13 PM

I vote Caio again! , Pitarra and McDaid did grate work !

jasonbaroody

10-24-2007, 01:18 PM

CPW3 got my vote! but everyone did a great job this round.

polystyleneman

10-24-2007, 01:18 PM

Wow, not sure who to vote for this time....

azubird

10-24-2007, 01:19 PM

Very well done all contestants, but NICK PITARRA takes the cake. He's got my vote!! :D

kalorama

10-24-2007, 01:20 PM

CPW3 got my vote! but everyone did a great job this round.

Agreed on both counts.

Everyone stepped it up, but for me CPWIII's work has the best combo of draftsmanship, layout, storytelling, and character. His work has hints of both Mike Huddleston and Ryan Sook.

rtisgood

10-24-2007, 01:24 PM

Im voting for Jon Reed again.

JON REED FTW !!

-RT-

polystyleneman

10-24-2007, 01:25 PM

Im voting for Jon Reed again.

JON REED FTW !!

-RT-

jon reed DOES rock the house....

kalorama

10-24-2007, 01:37 PM

I really like Reed's style. It's nicely done stuff. But so far it's seemed like his approach hasn't been the best fit with the subject matter the contestants have been given.

osielski

10-24-2007, 01:46 PM

Jon Reed's entry is stellar!! Dense frames with full activity; simple frames with excellent compostion. Terrific job!

mfillmore

10-24-2007, 01:49 PM

Love those tight pencils!!
Good mood and flow in the panels.

TCC

10-24-2007, 02:28 PM

voted for Caio!!

loved mcdaid but Caio has the kindo of art I enjoyed the most... something more urban like Risso´s 100 bullets...

loeswierstra

10-24-2007, 02:35 PM

Caio Oliveira

10-24-2007, 02:43 PM

DKBingham

10-24-2007, 02:46 PM

Two of the contestants didn't even vote for themselves! Hmmm...

DKBingham

10-24-2007, 02:48 PM

Yeah! Exactly! I completly agree.

I freetranslation.com'd his Dutch. Not perfect, but you get the general meaning.

Hello Americans

I had to say that Jon Reed is a very good artist. If he lived had in the Netherlands, he was famous become already.. Its work with a pencil is very good! Also will a compliment make to the other artists, good work!

Greetings from the Netherlands

AzIz

10-24-2007, 02:51 PM

Two of the contestants didn't even vote for themselves! Hmmm...

I dont see the point. Plus, I have my reasons.

shwa96

10-24-2007, 02:52 PM

Hallo Amerikaanen,

Ik wilde even zeggen dat Jon Reed een erg goede tekenaar is.
Als hij in Nederland had gewoont, was hij al beroemd geworden..
Zijn werk met een potlood is erg goed!
Ook wil een compliment maken naar de andere tekenaars, goed werk!

Groetjes uit Nederland

For those who don't read Dutch...the wonders of an online translator...

I means just as that Jon drove a very good draughtsman are.
If he had gewoont in the Netherlands, he had been already boasted.
To be work with a pencil is terrible good!
Also a compliment wants make to the other draughtsmen, well work!

Somehow, I don't think that's quite what he said.

But you get the idea.

shwa96

10-24-2007, 02:57 PM

CPW was the best in the round, but I'm voting for McDaid because Wilson seems pretty safe.

It's kind of funny. Almost everyone who commented said they liked what McDaid did, but I guess he was second on everyone's list because right now no one is voting for him.

Do we need to start a "Save McDaid" campaign?

JimmyDee

10-24-2007, 02:58 PM

I voted for Dan again -- mostly because I'm concerned that his innate style may turn a few folks off, but I think he deserves to go all the way even if his style doesn't necessarily work with a specific script - that's not his fault with this contest. He can't choose the scripts he's given, but does a damn good job with each of them. His art is wonderful and when he is a pro - which I've no doubt will happen - he'll be able to pick and choose his scripts and then his work will be best represented.

I really want to see what Dan's art looks like colored.

I'm also surprised that Caio's doing as well as he is this early on what with the voting scandal and all. The truth is, his second round entry was very good, though, which nobody can take away from him. To get my vote, though, he has to be near perfect the rest of the competition -- the voting scandal cools me a bit on his work, but if he works his butt off he may get my vote in a future round.

That said, VOTE DAN THE MAN!

Brandon Hanvey

10-24-2007, 03:09 PM

2 Hours in and here is how things stand.

Charles Paul Wilson III 40 24.84%
Caio Oliveira 39 24.22%
Jon Reed 39 24.22%
Nick Pitarra 14 8.70%
Dan McDaid 13 8.07%
Jose Holder 10 6.21%
Andrew Huerta 4 2.48%
Wilfredo Torres 2 1.24%

We have three contestants (Wilson, Oliveira, Reed) vying for the top while the rest are close together.

It's still too earlier to call anything so keep those votes coming.

haybaath

10-24-2007, 03:15 PM

That said, VOTE DAN THE MAN!

I'm with you guys. Dan is best!

Wild&Uncouth

10-24-2007, 03:19 PM

Go Charles! YAY!
This is so exciting!

JimmyDee

10-24-2007, 03:22 PM

The voting's crazy early on. Wildly lopsided. Kinda like that. I just hope it means Dan's safe.

VOTE DAN THE MAN! HE'LL MAKE YOU FEEL HEALTHIER AND MIGHT EVEN WASH YOUR CAR!

Tre Styles

10-24-2007, 03:41 PM

Pretty solid storytelling from everyone, but CPW's story drew me in, and not just because he included the text. I felt real emotion from the panels from each one. Not to say that the other contestents didn't have emotion in their pages, but his felt more real to me this round.

Brandon Hanvey

10-24-2007, 03:42 PM

I'm also surprised that Caio's doing as well as he is this early on what with the voting scandal and all. The truth is, his second round entry was very good, though, which nobody can take away from him. To get my vote, though, he has to be near perfect the rest of the competition -- the voting scandal cools me a bit on his work, but if he works his butt off he may get my vote in a future round.

I don't think it is right to hold that against Caio. While there were suspicious votes for him, he was not directly involved.

I say vote on the art.

jean sinclair

10-24-2007, 03:55 PM

I don't think it is right to hold that against Caio. While there were suspicious votes for him, he was not directly involved.

I say vote on the art.

Allright.

I voted in Caio on Rounds 01 and 02.

IMHO,his artwork is strong and perfect.

CPW was good too,but he used words and a great artist don´t need use words on his page samples.

See ya.

Aníbal

10-24-2007, 03:58 PM

Caio Oliveira ...again.

Boogie

10-24-2007, 04:03 PM

CPW3.
I think this contest may come down to Caio Oliveira and him. Though, all the contestants have done excellent work.

Mark Cardwell

10-24-2007, 04:05 PM

I hate to be negative when the standard of art this year is so high, but...

I've always had tastes that leaned towards more idiosyncratic artists, but even so, it's disappointing to see that a couple of artists with the blandest styles are doing so well early on.

rienji

10-24-2007, 04:16 PM

I voted for Caio in the 1st round and voted again in the 2nd round. Great work, to the top!

mcgrupp27

10-24-2007, 04:46 PM

No one messes with Reed. Definitely takes the cake, one of the coolest styles I have seen for a long, long time...

joelcook

10-24-2007, 04:46 PM

I don't think it is right to hold that against Caio. While there were suspicious votes for him, he was not directly involved.

I say vote on the art.

I wholeheartedly agree... LIke I said in another forum, the cream will rise to the top.

rtisgood

10-24-2007, 04:53 PM

No one messes with Reed........ one of the coolest styles I have seen for a long, long time...

I agree. I see too much of a similar style from the others. Reed's stands out as a unique art style , not seen in other contestants.

-RT-

Steev

10-24-2007, 05:04 PM

I called for stoner chicks and referenced the Grateful Dead, but the girls you have here would thank their "lucky stars" to never be caught dead at a Dead show
I love the Madonna dig in CB's crit. The outfits were very '80's Madonna. Those were the girls who hung out with stoners for the pot and the stoners let them in hopes of nailing them. :D

Yu-mon

10-24-2007, 05:07 PM

I voted for Caio in the 1st round and voted again in the 2nd round. Great work, to the top!

me 2.

Go Caio Go :D

Brandon Hanvey

10-24-2007, 05:07 PM

It's been 4 hours since the start of the poll. Let's see how things have changed.

Charles Paul Wilson III 60 23.90%
Caio Oliveira 58 23.11%
Jon Reed 49 19.52%
Nick Pitarra 40 15.94%
Dan McDaid 19 7.57%
Jose Holder 15 5.98%
Andrew Huerta 5 1.99%
Wilfredo Torres 5 1.99%

2 Hours in and here is how things stand.

Charles Paul Wilson III 40 24.84%
Caio Oliveira 39 24.22%
Jon Reed 39 24.22%
Nick Pitarra 14 8.70%
Dan McDaid 13 8.07%
Jose Holder 10 6.21%
Andrew Huerta 4 2.48%
Wilfredo Torres 2 1.24%

Wilson, Oliveira, and Reed are still on top but Pitarra picked up 26 votes to catch up with them.

McDaid and Holder stay steady near middle while Huerta and Torres are still at the bottom.

Nikki_Nixon

10-24-2007, 05:11 PM

Vote for Caio!
New blood for comics!
Sorry my neanderthal english.

J. Torres

10-24-2007, 05:33 PM

McDaid and Holder stay steady near middle while Huerta and Torres are still at the bottom.

For me (and I don't know if it's inappropriate for me to say this, but whatever), it's not about watching the top two or three playing musical chairs, especially because it's not the top vote-getter who wins the bonus prize but rather C.B.'s personal pick... this round is about watching the bottom three or four and who manages to hang on until the next round!

Kalyan Pokala

10-24-2007, 05:37 PM

For me (and I don't know if it's inappropriate for me to say this, but whatever), it's not about watching the top two or three playing musical chairs, especially because it's not the top vote-getter who wins the bonus prize but rather C.B.'s personal pick... this round is about watching the bottom three or four and who manages to hang on until the next round!

I look at it the same way.

I wish C.B. just came out and said who his favorite was though. :)

Caio Oliveira

10-24-2007, 05:44 PM

I look at it the same way.

I wish C.B. just came out and said who his favorite was though. :)

He voted for C. P. Wilson. So... ;)

polystyleneman

10-24-2007, 05:44 PM

Would somebody just go ahead and vote for Jose already?

davidbovey

10-24-2007, 05:57 PM

For me (and I don't know if it's inappropriate for me to say this, but whatever), it's not about watching the top two or three playing musical chairs, especially because it's not the top vote-getter who wins the bonus prize but rather C.B.'s personal pick... this round is about watching the bottom three or four and who manages to hang on until the next round!

I save my vote for that reason. I'd rather use it to see someone I like advance. I debate doing that in every round.

rickfm

10-24-2007, 05:58 PM

Caio with no doubts!

Kalyan Pokala

10-24-2007, 06:08 PM

He voted for C. P. Wilson. So... ;)

Hah, nice pick-up. While I like your work, there is something just off for the way you draw people, you draw them in funny poses. It's just my personal taste. Good Luck to you.

jiggavegas

10-24-2007, 06:11 PM

...gets my vote. nice work. his style is well-suited for the script, I thought.

Nick Pitarra was close for the sly wit he brought to it, but CPW3 edged him out. good "acting" and perspective.

Nikki_Nixon

10-24-2007, 06:14 PM

for the end of the joannas mother house, it votes in Caio Oliveira!

Neglekt

10-24-2007, 06:48 PM

I thought Andrew's final panel was amazing...it was almost enough for him to get my vote. Seeing his total I kinda wish I had voted for him, I'd like to see more.

cg_maniac

10-24-2007, 06:59 PM

Caio Oliveira

10-24-2007, 07:05 PM

I voted for Wilson.

I vote for the one I think did the best job in that round, don't really have a favorite.

anyone else find it funny that there are all these posters with 1 or 2 posts voting/promoting for Caio?

Does he have a big family, or what?

I just have a big country. ;)

Brandon Hanvey

10-24-2007, 07:10 PM

This actually takes me back to CBI when one of our Finalist was from South Africa. We had a large influx of people from South Africa. It was cool to see that comics are such a world wide medium.

Nikki_Nixon

10-24-2007, 07:13 PM

I just have a big country. ;)
and great friends!

polystyleneman

10-24-2007, 07:26 PM

Mi familia es de Perú. Who would they vote for? South or North America? :p

Caio Oliveira

10-24-2007, 07:27 PM

and great friends!

AND great friends. Cheers.

Brandon Hanvey

10-24-2007, 07:27 PM

We're 1/4 of the way into our poll and here are the standings.

Caio Oliveira 76 23.75%
Charles Paul Wilson III 70 21.88%
Jon Reed 61 19.06%
Nick Pitarra 53 16.56%
Dan McDaid 22 6.88%
Jose Holder 19 5.94%
Wilfredo Torres 11 3.44%
Andrew Huerta 8 2.50%

Charles Paul Wilson III 60 23.90%
Caio Oliveira 58 23.11%
Jon Reed 49 19.52%
Nick Pitarra 40 15.94%
Dan McDaid 19 7.57%
Jose Holder 15 5.98%
Andrew Huerta 5 1.99%
Wilfredo Torres 5 1.99%

Things pretty much stayed the same since 2 hours ago. Of the top 4, Oliveira took a slight lead over Wilson while Pitarra keeps closing the gap with Reed.

Of the bottom 4, McDaid and Holder are still edging out Torres, but Torres is gaining on them slightly. Huerta is slowing getting votes.

Caio Oliveira

10-24-2007, 07:27 PM

Mi familia es de Perú. Who would they vote for? South or North America? :p

"South" sounds good!;)

Brandon Hanvey

10-24-2007, 07:29 PM

Mi familia es de Perú. Who would they vote for? South or North America? :p

What of poor ol' England? Least no one forget them.

C.B. Cebulski

10-24-2007, 07:30 PM

gelows

10-24-2007, 07:37 PM

And hopefully in the end, it will be the best ARTIST who wins.Caio is great for the job lined in this competition.
The quality of an artist its a matter of opinion, taste.
He have my vote based in that alone.
:)

JimmyDee

10-24-2007, 07:41 PM

Good to see Wilfredo move up a bit. I'd like to see him make it past this round, as long as it's not at the expense of Dan McDaid!

VOTE DAN THE MAN! HE DRAWS A MEAN COMIC PAGE AND CAN MAKE SUSHI WITH HIS FEET! *

* - It is unknown whether he actually can make sushi with his feet, but if he could I'd think that would deserve a vote.

Brandon Hanvey

10-24-2007, 07:50 PM

Just remember that art is subjective, but there are ways of judging the way a story is told and how the art is created that can be judged in terms of quality.

C.B. Cebulski

10-24-2007, 07:54 PM

Just remember that art is subjective, but there are ways of judging the way a story is told and how the art is created that can be judged in terms of quality.

Couldn't have said it better myself, Brandon!

TCC

10-24-2007, 08:00 PM

anyone else find it funny that there are all these posters with 1 or 2 posts voting/promoting for Caio?

Does he have a big family, or what?

maybe we brazillians are just a little more excited than we should be... exposing ourselves in the thread, trying to "explain" our votes...

but i just look into cpwIII(who has also a great voting) and a major percentage of his voters are "newbies" ...

same thing with pitarra... and reed... and dan...

Brandon Hanvey

10-24-2007, 08:07 PM

maybe we brazillians are just a little more excited than we should be... exposing ourselves in the thread, trying to "explain" our votes...

but i just look into cpwIII(who has also a great voting) and a major percentage of his voters are "newbies" ...

same thing with pitarra...

This is true. From looking at the votes, I'd say over 50% are people who never posted at CBR before the contest. And this is normal. The past two CBI's had an influx of new people from around the world voting for their favorite.

We have over 29,000 registered users. Of those there are say 5000 that post on a normal basis. The past two CBI's got an average of 600-800 votes per round. A lot of CBR regulars don't vote in CBI.

Yu-mon

10-24-2007, 08:15 PM

This is true. From looking at the votes, I'd say over 50% are people who never posted at CBR before the contest. And this is normal. The past two CBI's had an influx of new people from around the world voting for their favorite.

We have over 29,000 registered users. Of those there are say 5000 that post on a normal basis. The past two CBI's got an average of 600-800 votes per round. A lot of CBR regulars don't vote in CBI.

Text Original:
isso porque alguns novatos, como eu, temos muita vontade de comentar, mas a maioria fica limitado pois não se têm um conhecimento mais amplo na escrita em inglês, como é meu caso.
Comentei em português e levei um puxão de orelha pra na próxima usar o babelfish (mas é chato ficar o tempo todo usando o babelfish pra expor a opinião numa tradução que sabe que não está 100% perfeita).

Text in Babelfish :p :

this because some novices, as I, we have much will to comment, but the majority is limited therefore does not have a ampler knowledge in the writing in English, as case is mine. I commented in Portuguese and I took a poke of ear pra in the next one to use babelfish (but pra is flat to be the time all using babelfish to display the opinion in a translation that knows that she is not 100% perfect one.

rienji

10-24-2007, 08:16 PM

Brandon Hanvey

10-24-2007, 08:20 PM

Text Original:
isso porque alguns novatos, como eu, temos muita vontade de comentar, mas a maioria fica limitado pois não se têm um conhecimento mais amplo na escrita em inglês, como é meu caso.
Comentei em português e levei um puxão de orelha pra na próxima usar o babelfish (mas é chato ficar o tempo todo usando o babelfish pra expor a opinião numa tradução que sabe que não está 100% perfeita).

Text in Babelfish :p :

this because some novices, as I, we have much will to comment, but the majority is limited therefore does not have a ampler knowledge in the writing in English, as case is mine. I commented in Portuguese and I took a poke of ear pra in the next one to use babelfish (but pra is flat to be the time all using babelfish to display the opinion in a translation that knows that she is not 100% perfect one.

Yeah my knowledge of Portuguese has gone up the past few days. I was never that good with other languages. I got a C- in High School Spanish.

cg_maniac

10-24-2007, 08:21 PM

whoah, I didn't know you could see who voted for who. :eek:

Caio Oliveira

10-24-2007, 08:24 PM

whoah, I didn't know you could see who voted for who. :eek:

Yeah! Toy Story's Woody mode on: "We can see everythiiiiing!":evilsmile

Brandon Hanvey

10-24-2007, 08:27 PM

Yeah! Toy Story's Woody mode on: "We can see everythiiiiing!":evilsmile

Caio,

I saw you needed help changing your profile.

Do to so go to UserCP
http://forums.comicbookresources.com/usercp.php

To edit your avatar, go to UserCP and click on Edit Avatar.

TCC

10-24-2007, 08:28 PM

whoah, I didn't know you could see who voted for who. :eek:

just click on the number of votes of anyone of the contestants...

ranui04

10-24-2007, 08:34 PM

This is the man!! His work is unique, everybody knows his artistic drow as a reference in our evaluation as one of the best. GOOD LOCK CAIO

Caio Oliveira

10-24-2007, 08:35 PM

Caio,

I saw you needed help changing your profile.

Do to so go to UserCP
http://forums.comicbookresources.com/usercp.php

To edit your avatar, go to UserCP and click on Edit Avatar.

I already did it, but thanks! :)

Nikki_Nixon

10-24-2007, 08:36 PM

junbobkim

10-24-2007, 08:42 PM

whoah, I didn't know you could see who voted for who. :eek:
Well, I find it classy that CPWIII voted for another contestant... although there's nothing wrong with anyone voting for himself.

Jack Flash

10-24-2007, 08:52 PM

i voted for Nick Pitarra. I lurved his stuff this time!

HÊÚL.

10-24-2007, 08:59 PM

And hopefully in the end, it will be the best ARTIST who wins.
Cebulski, you, mister, are a braggart!!!! LOL ^^'

Nick Pitarra

10-24-2007, 09:02 PM

...gets my vote. nice work. his style is well-suited for the script, I thought.

Nick Pitarra was close for the sly wit he brought to it, but CPW3 edged him out. good "acting" and perspective.

I'll take being 2nd to CPW#3 any day of the week! That guy did the best pages this round imo (hopefully that means "in my opinion"). You think you turn in really good pages...and then you click his link and realize you have a crapload of more work to do. Jose gave me that experience last week. Its humbling, knowing that any one of the contestants can hand you your ass at anygiven time. Just a sick amount of talent all around.

~nick

Nick Pitarra

10-24-2007, 09:06 PM

i voted for Nick Pitarra. I lurved his stuff this time!

Me too! ;) Thanks for the vote man! Texas love is always appreciated.

Best,
nick

Fodaum

10-24-2007, 09:22 PM

Carawba..

I fiquei com my heart in my hand...

I loved the work de Wilson III and I loved to the work´s Caio...

PQP...

I'm crazing... but I vote Caio... the expressions in faces dos personas... man... inté today i "hauhauhauah".

litle kiss, litle kiss e bay bay

Mateus

10-24-2007, 09:33 PM

tabajara translator-wife write:

The majority of newbies nowadays is form by old on Multiverso Bate Boca braziliam forum (Multiverse Talk to talk).
Without considering the ufanism we all believe and appreciate the great experience of Caio´s work. In Brasil we all want Caio Oliveira, Ed Benes, Mike deodato, Ivan Reis, etc...;)
Yeah, and the reason there are so many Brazilians coming here to vote for Caio is not only because he has a lot of friends, people are coming because we knew his work from before and we were already fans! And I believe and hope that this round's results will make it clear to everyone that what happened on round one was a really stupid idea from a few stupid people and was not only wrong but totally unnecessary since Caio's work can get all the votes he needs.

And all these new people are coming here and looking at everyone's work, and commenting, and even if someone thinks they're not voting based on the work, they're coming here and the spotlight is being given to everyone, and that I think is the most important gain for everyone at CBI. It must be cool to know you're doing something that is being seen by people all around the world! So the more people are coming here the better for everyone. At least that's how I see it...

ScottDMSimmons

10-24-2007, 09:35 PM

Man, this time around it was between Charles, Jon, and Jose for me.

Going with Jose. Love the detail and thought behind alot of the panels.

Scott

Chupa Rick

10-24-2007, 09:39 PM

Is there anything funnier than portuguese -> english babelfish translations?

If you understand a little bit of each language you have lots of laughs. :D

Anyway, i loved both Caio's and Charles work, but i've been watching Caio since 2003, and the appreciation i have for his development as artist gives him my vote.

Brandon Hanvey

10-24-2007, 09:40 PM

It's 8 hours after the opening of the poll, and I'm listening to Ozma's new album "Pasadena" (Weezer fans should check it out). Here are your standings.

Caio Oliveira 87 23.90% + 11
Charles Paul Wilson III 83 22.80% +13
Jon Reed 63 17.31% +2
Nick Pitarra 59 16.21% +6
Dan McDaid 26 7.14% +4
Jose Holder 23 6.32% +4
Wilfredo Torres 13 3.57% +2
Andrew Huerta 10 2.75% +2

Caio Oliveira 76 23.75%
Charles Paul Wilson III 70 21.88%
Jon Reed 61 19.06%
Nick Pitarra 53 16.56%
Dan McDaid 22 6.88%
Jose Holder 19 5.94%
Wilfredo Torres 11 3.44%
Andrew Huerta 8 2.50%

Standing wise things are pretty much the same.

It will be interesting if the late night vote changes anything.

Brandon Hanvey

10-24-2007, 09:43 PM

Is there anything funnier than portuguese -> english babelfish translations?

If you understand a little bit of each language you have lots of laughs. :D

You could try this. (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=pt-BR&sl=en&u=http://forums.comicbookresources.com/forumdisplay.php%3Ff%3D29&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=6&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dcomic%2Bbook%2Bidol%26num%3D100%26hl% 3Dpt-BR%26lr%3D%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DG) It's not prefect and things probably won't work in terms of posting.

J. Torres

10-24-2007, 09:51 PM

Never mind the top or bottom... looks like MBB vs. Ten Ton now ;)

Chupa Rick

10-24-2007, 09:51 PM

You could try this. (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=pt-BR&sl=en&u=http://forums.comicbookresources.com/forumdisplay.php%3Ff%3D29&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=6&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dcomic%2Bbook%2Bidol%26num%3D100%26hl% 3Dpt-BR%26lr%3D%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DG) It's not prefect and things probably won't work in terms of posting.

Its easier to read english then reading this auto-translated thing, cause much of the translation wont make any sense in portuguese, but thanks.

Its also easier reading things in english then writing it >.<

Steev

10-24-2007, 10:09 PM

Never mind the top or bottom... looks like MBB vs. Ten Ton now ;)

Well then, we know who to bet on now. :D

Brandon Hanvey

10-24-2007, 10:12 PM

Look it's a mimi poll inside a poll.

What should I listen to during hour 10 while I'm going over the votes?

1-Weezer "The Blue Album"

2-The Sword "Age of Winters"

3-My Chemical Romance "The Black Parade"

4-Handsome Boy Modeling School "So Hows your girl.."

Yu-mon

10-24-2007, 10:13 PM

Never mind the top or bottom... looks like MBB vs. Ten Ton now ;)

what is Ten Ton Now o.O????

HÊÚL.

10-24-2007, 10:14 PM

Brandon Hanvey

10-24-2007, 10:15 PM

what is Ten Ton Now o.O????

Ten Ton Studios. Another message board that is collective of amateur and pro comic writers and artist.

Edit: Didn't mean to insult you, Steev.:D

Steev

10-24-2007, 10:40 PM

Ten Ton Studios. Another message board that is collective of amateur and pro comic writers and artist.

Edit: Didn't mean to insult you, Steev.:D

Ha ha ! S'alright, I can take it.

(just watch out for the other guys);)

jasonbaroody

10-24-2007, 10:50 PM

Ten Ton Studios. Another message board that is collective of amateur and pro comic writers and artist.

Edit: Didn't mean to insult you, Steev.:D

hahaha, brandon can call us whatever he likes, so long as he mentions us;)

mattx110

10-24-2007, 10:53 PM

i almost voted for huerta because i love the second page so much. all the judges were complaining, but i think it's beautiful, and in a 22 or more page book, a few experimental pages like this deserve a spot. the almost all white panel with the stencil-like outlines blew my mind.

but i also felt torres wasn't getting enough love, and did a great job.

can't there be a "pick your top 3" kinda vote? i feel horrible choosing, and it'd let ciao's fanclub spread the accolades.

DanielSchenstrom

10-24-2007, 11:05 PM

I actually had to abandon my overall favorite, Jose, and vote for the one that stood out, CPWIII.

Proxy

10-24-2007, 11:08 PM

Charles fan! <3

Brandon Hanvey

10-24-2007, 11:09 PM

So its hour 10 and what did I listen to? None that was on the poll. I listened to Plumtree whose song "Scott Pilgrim" is the inspiration for the most awesomeness comic ever.

Caio Oliveira 91 23.33% +4
Charles Paul Wilson III 83 21.28% 0
Jon Reed 68 17.44% +5
Nick Pitarra 65 16.67% +6
Dan McDaid 32 8.21% +6
Jose Holder 26 6.67% +3
Wilfredo Torres 15 3.85% +2
Andrew Huerta 10 2.56% 0

Caio Oliveira 87 23.90% + 11
Charles Paul Wilson III 83 22.80% +13
Jon Reed 63 17.31% +2
Nick Pitarra 59 16.21% +6
Dan McDaid 26 7.14% +4
Jose Holder 23 6.32% +4
Wilfredo Torres 13 3.57% +2
Andrew Huerta 10 2.75% +2

The song remains the same. Caio pulled a little ahead of Wilson, who got no votes the past 2 hours.

The middle pack Reed, Pitarra, McDaid seem to be picking up a little.

Torres and Huerta still trail the rest of the contestants.

Brandon Hanvey

10-24-2007, 11:27 PM

Mini Poll #2

What should I eat during vote checking hour 12?

1 - Nutter Butters

2 - Dark Chocolate M&M's

3 - Kashi cereal

jasonbaroody

10-24-2007, 11:30 PM

2 - Dark Chocolate M&M's

Steev

10-24-2007, 11:40 PM

Mini Poll #2

What should I eat during vote checking hour 12?

1 - Nutter Butters

2 - Dark Chocolate M&M's

3 - Kashi cereal

Chips and salsa!
I know it's not on the list but it sounds really good right now.

Fodaum

10-24-2007, 11:40 PM

carawba...

91 the 91

With this voting nor I obtain to sleep - here in the Brazil they are 02:35 of the dawn. The two artists who more taste at the moment are in the front... would like much that the Jose Holder also obtained more votes... taste very its style.

BADunn

10-24-2007, 11:46 PM

My pick for round 2: Charles Wilson

I hate, hate, hate voting for someone who seems to be a shoo-in but he deserves to win! He got points from me from the get go just for lettering his pages. I didn't fully read the script (and I feel badly that I didn't) so Chuck helped me to understand the underlying message even though I think it's fairly clear. His money shot? The bike shop in the rain. That's a distracting detail but a telling one and it made his story world more rich. I also like that he chose a simple layout but one that was well-spaced. I'd dare say that it was well-timed just due to how it makes you think about the story--although I believe Mr Cebulski deserves credit for how he handled his narration. It's just to Charles' credit that he picked up on that timing. These two should work together again directly and soon.

Other comments:

I still love Dan McDaid but he has to learn to separate his retro drawing style from retro artifacts in his work. It was one thing for him to put a fresh spin on the Fathom story, but he mixed in too many overtly antiquated designs in his work and that lost his vote this round. That's a shame too as once again he showed he is a stylistic master. Dan, if you read this, please do your best to design for the story needs more than for your own tastes. It was almost disrespectful for you to put a 50's esque cheerleader in an 80's/90's era story. Otherwise, the layout and the clean designs were gorgeous.

I'm seriously worried about Jose Holder too. It's not that he isn't good, obviously. I was blown away by his panel for the shampoo smelling--it just perfectly captured that scene and that moment more than words could. In fact, I dare say that he drew the best single panel in this round. However, I think he didn't communicate the story so well in some of his other panels. There was also something going on with the chin he drew on panel 6 of page 1 that I can't get past. Where did those tentacle-stubs come from? Furthermore, I think his drawings this time would have been destroyed by color--which is fine since he didn't have to color in the first place. However, I don't think I would like his work colored unless takes out some of the miscellaneous details that clutter his work--details that DO aid him in black and white. Like last week, I am in LOVE with his crosshatching style and I think that he should never let anyone else ink his work as they would not give his designs the proper flair that his deliberately stylish inking has. In fact, as a person who isn't fond of inking, I think Jose might have a career in inking and proving that inkers aren't just tracers.

Yu-mon

10-25-2007, 12:16 AM

Mini Poll #2

What should I eat during vote checking hour 12?

1 - Nutter Butters

2 - Dark Chocolate M&M's

3 - Kashi cereal

M&M`s
and thx Brandon ;)

Brandon Hanvey

10-25-2007, 01:08 AM

Listening to: The Rentals "The Last Little LIfe" EP
Eating Dark Chocolate M&M's

We hit our halfway point.

Charles Paul Wilson III 95 23.28% +4
Caio Oliveira 92 22.55% +1
Jon Reed 70 17.16% +2
Nick Pitarra 66 16.18% +1
Dan McDaid 32 7.84% 0
Jose Holder 28 6.86% +2
Wilfredo Torres 15 3.68% 0
Andrew Huerta 10 2.45% 0

Caio Oliveira 91 23.33% +4
Charles Paul Wilson III 83 21.28% 0
Jon Reed 68 17.44% +5
Nick Pitarra 65 16.67% +6
Dan McDaid 32 8.21% +6
Jose Holder 26 6.67% +3
Wilfredo Torres 15 3.85% +2
Andrew Huerta 10 2.56% 0

Votes are slowing down in the late hours.

Wilson has over taken the lead by a few votes. And the rest of the pack has pretty much stayed the same.

Can Torres and Huerta gain enough votes overnight to not be eliminated? Every vote counts so don't wait before it's over.

What do you say, Scott?

http://brainiac.boilingpoint.com/~cbi3/brandoncbi/scottr2.gif

Brandon Hanvey

10-25-2007, 01:12 AM

Mini Poll #3

What should I post in my last vote recap at 2 AM before I get some sleep?

1 - An old picture of J. Torres when he was a teen

2 - More Scott Pilgrim

3 - A picture of my cat

Vig

10-25-2007, 01:50 AM

Mini Poll #3

What should I post in my last vote recap at 2 AM before I get some sleep?

1 - An old picture of J. Torres when he was a teen

2 - More Scott Pilgrim

3 - A picture of my cat

Just for the heck of it: 1 - An old picture of J. Torres when he was a teen

Jason Masters

10-25-2007, 02:36 AM

well the pic of J. would be in with keeping with the 80's theme this round has.:D

garth_b

10-25-2007, 02:43 AM

For round 1 the entries were spread across the spectrum of stuff I liked so-so stuff to stuff I didn't like.

THis time it was split down the middle. It either did it for me or it didn't.

My vote went to Charles.

Brandon Hanvey

10-25-2007, 03:07 AM

We have 10 hours left and I'm sleepy so no food or music.

Charles Paul Wilson III 98 +3
Caio Oliveira 92 21.80% 0
Jon Reed 71 16.82% +1
Nick Pitarra 70 16.59% 0
Dan McDaid 36 8.53% +4
Jose Holder 30 7.11% +2
Wilfredo Torres 15 3.55% 0
Andrew Huerta 10 2.37% 0

Charles Paul Wilson III 95 23.28%
Caio Oliveira 92 22.55%
Jon Reed 70 17.16%
Nick Pitarra 66 16.18%
Dan McDaid 32 7.84%
Jose Holder 28 6.86%
Wilfredo Torres 15 3.68%
Andrew Huerta 10 2.45%

Only a few votes here and there. The standings stay pretty much the same but the gap Torres and Huerta have to close has widened by a little bit. They'll need a big boost over the next few hours if they want to stay in the game.

And I leave you with young J. Torres who urges everyone to vote.

http://brainiac.boilingpoint.com/~cbi3/brandoncbi/jtr2.jpg

See you in the morning.

Brandon Hanvey

10-25-2007, 03:08 AM

If someone is up around the hours of 7-8 AM EST (4-5 AM PST) and wants to post he vote totals, I would thank them kindly.

willustrator

10-25-2007, 03:23 AM

Its got to be Jose

boomboom

10-25-2007, 03:30 AM

CAIO....he knocked me down!!!

the goddamn batman

10-25-2007, 03:37 AM

Wilson and McDaid, but Wilson's obviously going to advance, so I voted McDaid.

I dunno, this round everyone did some pretty solid work and it was a tough call. McDaid didn't do the 80's thing, but I like his work too much to care. Follow the script Dan!!!:p

hijodemilputas

10-25-2007, 03:55 AM

I voted McDaid. Pitarra and Torres also rock

FunkyGreenJerusalem

10-25-2007, 04:29 AM

Wow, I thought this one would be heaps closer than it's turning out to be!

I had to spend ages figuring out who I'd vote for!

Gonzogoose

10-25-2007, 05:02 AM

If someone is up around the hours of 7-8 AM EST (4-5 AM PST) and wants to post he vote totals, I would thank them kindly.

Well, I'm up. It's exactly 7am Est as I type this. And the current standings are:

Charles Paul Wilson III 98 22.84% 0
Caio Oliveira 94 21.91% +2
Jon Reed 71 16.55% 0
Nick Pitarra 70 16.32% 0
Dan McDaid 40 9.32% +4
Jose Holder 31 7.23% +1
Wilfredo Torres 15 3.50% 0
Andrew Huerta 10 2.33% 0

No change in the standings, and not much movement overnight at all really.

rienji

10-25-2007, 05:29 AM

Mini Poll #2

What should I eat during vote checking hour 12?

1 - Nutter Butters

2 - Dark Chocolate M&M's

3 - Kashi cereal

omg, nutter butters!!! :D

Sheldon

10-25-2007, 05:37 AM

Dan McDaid is luverly

W.Blankenship

10-25-2007, 05:46 AM

Voted Mcdaid. Ciao and Wilfredo were a close second. Wonder why Wilfredo is getting no love, his stuff was bomb compared to a couple peeps with signifigantly higher votes.

I'm sort of glad I didn't make it in at this point. I'm no good at being poular.

:D

3!LL

mightyfineline

10-25-2007, 06:00 AM

Wonder why Wilfredo is getting no love, his stuff was bomb compared to a couple peeps with signifigantly higher votes.

I'm sort of glad I didn't make it in at this point. I'm no good at being poular.

Yeah - well obviously, neither am I ;)

Dan M

10-25-2007, 06:07 AM

Well I think you're awesome, Fred. Wish I'd voted for you now.

W.Blankenship

10-25-2007, 06:22 AM

Yeah - well obviously, neither am I ;)

Yeah, Ciao earned his votes, but with a case like yours, the votes do not form an adequate ratio to skill. I'll say it the nicest way possible, a couple of the high ender's votes do not adequately represent their skill either. It may represent their ability to market, but there's a difference between getting someone to vote and getting someone to fork over money.
Just my .02

Checked out your site Wilfredo, Amazing stuff!

3!LL

mightyfineline

10-25-2007, 06:24 AM

Well I think you're awesome, Fred. Wish I'd voted for you now.

Much appreciated but considering that at this point the only way that I could possibly advance would be to move past Holder or Yourself (all BS aside, my two favorite remaining contestants) I'm okay with it.

Gonzogoose

10-25-2007, 06:44 AM

omg, nutter butters!!! :D

I agree. :D

Gonzogoose

10-25-2007, 06:45 AM

My top two this round were CPW closely followed by Jose. I'm surprised Jose hasn't gotten more votes.

Regardless, all of you did tremendous work this round, and none of you should feel bad at all. It's just tough competition is all.

Chris Daley

10-25-2007, 07:03 AM

The four that I connect most with this round are: Oliviera, McDaid, Pitarra, and Holder. As Holder is the most at risk of the four, he gets my vote again. I am suprised that McDaid and Holder are getting so few votes but it also looks like votes in general are down this week so that may have something to do with it. I'm just glad that all four seem (at this point at least) safe for the next round.

I thought all four of these submissions were ones I'd be more than happy to spend money on if I was browsing books at the shop. I agree with some others that I think McDaid may have missed the setting by a decade or so, but storytelling skills more than makes up for it. I thought that Pitarra got close to Maguire fun on the facials (even if he went a little Benes on the T&A) and that Holder and Oliviera just turned in beautiful stuff.

I'm glad to see Wilson getting tons of love even though his submission didn't work for me as well this round. I also think Reed has proven why he is here. I just hope he is able to bring that X Factor that will set him apart next week. Finally, while I didn't feel either Torres or Huerta's work this week, both are huge talents who have long careers ahead of them if they want them.

Best,

Chris

CAMALHAO

10-25-2007, 07:08 AM

Voted For Caio!!!
Mr. Cebulski, Are You A Little Afraid Of The Dark, Mr Cebulski?

J. Torres

10-25-2007, 07:18 AM

And I leave you with young J. Torres who urges everyone to vote.

Right now, I hate you more than I hate ballot stuffers :p

BADunn

10-25-2007, 07:47 AM

I am suprised that McDaid and Holder are getting so few votes...

Me too! Then again I raved about but didn't vote for either of them, therefore...

I'm confident in voting for CPW this round because he communicated the story best. Charles adding the lettering himself was no small part in this if only to show that he thinks about the placement of captions and speech bubbles.

However, it bothers me that, while Charles is bursting with skill and a great sense of how to tell a story (I am STILL in awe of his final panel from round one!) Jose and Dan's unique and appealing styles aren't getting any love. Dan's style is fresh and clean and it still works when he uses modern references as opposed to those from the 50's and 60's. And Jose is just bursting with dynamic layouts and inspired choices that I fear are getting ignored by voters. But what will the industry think of these two? We shall see...

Spiderkika

10-25-2007, 07:57 AM

Another brasilian fan and friend, to vote in Caio "zed" Oliveira"

batmanosaurus

10-25-2007, 07:59 AM

Before I realized the poll is for picking just your #1, I ranked them all. Might as well share...

1 Jon
2 Charles
3 Dan
4 Nicholas
5 Ciao
6 Jose
7 Wilfredo
8 Andrew

Fine submissions all!

Goyo

10-25-2007, 08:16 AM

It's kind of funny. Almost everyone who commented said they liked what McDaid did, but I guess he was second on everyone's list because right now no one is voting for him.

That's my case.

I really love McDaid's work, though I feel it's still at this point too "darwincookian" to stand out as a personal style.

I think it's pretty safe (and fair) to start as an artist trying to follow whatever your preferred artists are making, I wouldn't say copying, but trying to get close to someone who's admired as an artist is a good way to start.

Anyway, I'm sure MaDaid will be able to develop his own style with time, and I definetly would love to see his work published somewhere in the near future, preferably less "darwyncookian" and more McDaidish artwork.

Bad thing is, as someone said here, I'm a Caio Oliveira fan for quite some time, whoever wants to pay a visit to our own board just try and access "Criações & Projetos de Quadrinhos" and you can see that wherever there's a Caio "Zed" Oliveira post with his artwork, I'm there supporting him. It would only be logical to think that I would also show him my support in this competition!;)

bls-79

10-25-2007, 08:32 AM

Dan McDaid gets my vote in this round as I love his style and I think his story telling skills are at a professional level.

Mascara-de-Ferro

10-25-2007, 08:32 AM

Ok, Ok. Just For One Vote, But Caio Still The First And The One Winner For Me!

J. Torres

10-25-2007, 08:40 AM

I see at least 50 people on this forum right now... raise your hand if you're sitting there, like me, hitting refreshing every few minutes in between "work" and checking e-mail :D

Dan M

10-25-2007, 08:45 AM

That's my case.

I really love McDaid's work, though I feel it's still at this point too "darwincookian" to stand out as a personal style.

I think it's pretty safe (and fair) to start as an artist trying to follow whatever your preferred artists are making, I wouldn't say copying, but trying to get close to someone who's admired as an artist is a good way to start.

Anyway, I'm sure MaDaid will be able to develop his own style with time, and I definetly would love to see his work published somewhere in the near future, preferably less "darwyncookian" and more McDaidish artwork.

Bad thing is, as someone said here, I'm a Caio Oliveira fan for quite some time, whoever wants to pay a visit to our own board just try and access "Criações & Projetos de Quadrinhos" and you can see that wherever there's a Caio "Zed" Oliveira post with his artwork, I'm there supporting him. It would only be logical to think that I would also show him my support in this competition!;)

Hi Goyo. Thanks for the very thoughtful crit. While I see what you mean about my style being close to that of my influences (which also include Toth, Kirby, Eisner, Robbins - as if you couldn't guess!) I do think there's enough of my voice coming through here for it to be distinctly "mine". And while I plan on evolving my art pretty much till the brush falls from my decrepit fingers, I like the way I draw now and I don't see it changing all that much any time soon. Nor would I artificially start bringing in influences I've no time for as that would look, well, artificial. :)

Thanks again Goyo. Sensible conversation - who knew?!

Oh, and thanks to everyone who said nice stuff about me this time. CPWilson definitely had the edge: really polished, confident work.

J. Torres

10-25-2007, 08:49 AM

Hi Goyo. Thanks for the very thoughtful crit. While I see what you mean about my style being close to that of my influences (which also include Toth, Kirby, Eisner, Robbins - as if you couldn't guess!) I do think there's enough of my voice coming through here for it to be distinctly "mine". And while I plan on evolving my art pretty much till the brush falls from my decrepit fingers, I like the way I draw now and I don't see it changing all that much any time soon. Nor would I artificially start bringing in influences I've no time for as that would look, well, artificial. :)

I say don't change a thing because I think you're brilliant at what you do as is ;)

Jay Figgs

10-25-2007, 08:52 AM

I see at least 50 people on this forum right now... raise your hand if you're sitting there, like me, hitting refreshing every few minutes in between "work" and checking e-mail :D

Ha! "Work" is right.:D
I pretty much agree with Goyo on every word - McDaid is fantastic, I'm in awe of his pages, and the watercolored look of his work is stunning. However, my (very minor) criticism of his work on this round is not so much because it reminds me of Darwyn Cooke (and it does), but because of the 60's feeling of the drawings (something that has been discussed on the evaluation thread). And so, Caio gets my vote again, because, IMHO, he showed up with the best pages of the round. And I do second Goyo's invitation for anyone to come over at MBB's "~Criações & Projetos" forum, specifically on this thread (http://www.mbbforum.com/mbb/viewtopic.php?t=2010) to see Caio's ("Zed") other work.

jasonbaroody

10-25-2007, 08:54 AM

I see at least 50 people on this forum right now... raise your hand if you're sitting there, like me, hitting refreshing every few minutes in between "work" and checking e-mail :D

HAHAHA.
it's fun to watch and see what happens, even if it is every few minutes.
what time does the voting close this round? and how many people will be eliminated afterwards? sorry if those seem like lame questions.

J. Torres

10-25-2007, 09:02 AM

HAHAHA.
it's fun to watch and see what happens, even if it is every few minutes.
what time does the voting close this round? and how many people will be eliminated afterwards? sorry if those seem like lame questions.

We've changed the end time to 3 PM (EST) to help out the West Coasters involved behind the scenes at CBI, but it's still the bottom two that don't get to move on...

Goyo

10-25-2007, 09:13 AM

I see at least 50 people on this forum right now... raise your hand if you're sitting there, like me, hitting refreshing every few minutes in between "work" and checking e-mail :D

http://mercuccio.wunderblogs.com/archives/images/drdoom.jpg

Dan, the sure thing is: changing or not your style (though I think it'll happen naturally, as it did with all artists you've mentioned), I'm still hoping to check out something published with your name on the credits in the future!;)

warren_0

10-25-2007, 09:23 AM

My god. Casting a vote at all is so hard to do. Every entry is so solid.

Quick! Someone give these bastitches a gig so I can buy all of their books!!

superharman

10-25-2007, 09:29 AM

Mascara-de-Ferro

10-25-2007, 09:39 AM

I really like the work of Torres.

I few bad about him...

CAMALHAO

10-25-2007, 09:49 AM

this thread is generatin chaos and dicussions in the mbb! civil war! whose side are you on??? :confused:

Brandon Hanvey

10-25-2007, 10:18 AM

With less than 3 hours left here are how things stand

Charles Paul Wilson III 126 23.38% +28
Caio Oliveira 114 21.15% +20
Jon Reed 88 16.33% +17
Nick Pitarra 79 14.66% +9
Dan McDaid 54 10.02% +14
Jose Holder 43 7.98% +12
Wilfredo Torres 23 4.27% +8
Andrew Huerta 12 2.23% +2

Charles Paul Wilson III 98 22.84% 0
Caio Oliveira 94 21.91% +2
Jon Reed 71 16.55% 0
Nick Pitarra 70 16.32% 0
Dan McDaid 40 9.32% +4
Jose Holder 31 7.23% +1
Wilfredo Torres 15 3.50% 0
Andrew Huerta 10 2.33% 0

Votes have picked up from the late night crawl. But the standings remain the same.

Torres and Huerta will need a huge last minute push if they want to make it.

TuPeT

10-25-2007, 10:22 AM

1. Caio
2. McDaid
3. Huerta

Great job guys!

polystyleneman

10-25-2007, 10:48 AM

I see at least 50 people on this forum right now... raise your hand if you're sitting there, like me, hitting refreshing every few minutes in between "work" and checking e-mail :D

Raising hand here!!! :evilsmile

polystyleneman

10-25-2007, 10:51 AM

this thread is generatin chaos and dicussions in the mbb! civil war! whose side are you on??? :confused:

What are these people even talking about? I feel so un-geeky right now. :p MBB?

kalorama

10-25-2007, 11:04 AM

Torres and Huerta will need a huge last minute push if they want to make it.

I really liked Torres' work last round and was interested in seeing his stuff develop. I thought he did a nice job with this one, but I'm betting the sharp shift in styles from his previous submission might have thrown some folks off.

BlackFabio, Inc.

10-25-2007, 11:08 AM

McDaid and Torres did an amazing job, but my vote goes for Caio. His unique style fits very well to this kind of script IMHO.

Caio Oliveira

10-25-2007, 11:37 AM

CAIO....he knocked me down!!!

Thanks for your support! I really appreciate your vote (and also your nickname).;)

DidCart

10-25-2007, 11:53 AM

Caio, I'm with you!

Nick Pitarra

10-25-2007, 11:56 AM

I had a lot of trouble deciding on this round so I just went back to my round one favorite of Nick Pitara. Everyones work was pretty much professional standard though and I expect we will be seeing more from a lot of these guys.

Thanks man! I really appreciate it...and back to back weeks too. Thats awesome of you man.

I'm beginning to think I use the word awesome too much.

~nick

domo-kun

10-25-2007, 11:58 AM

Go Go Caio!!!!

rpriske

10-25-2007, 11:59 AM

I voted for McDaid...but I am disappointed at how low Torres is. He was my second choice. :(

Brandon Hanvey

10-25-2007, 12:04 PM

Less than one hour left. If you have not voted, you better do it soon.

polystyleneman

10-25-2007, 12:08 PM

Less than one hour left. If you have not voted, you better do it soon.

One hour left and I'll be back to work.... now, wait then I'll be doing layouts for the new assignment. lol :mad:

polystyleneman

10-25-2007, 12:15 PM

Thanks man! I really appreciate it...and back to back weeks too. Thats awesome of you man.

I'm beginning to think I use the word awesome too much.

~nick

You almost had my vote man. I was on the fence between Jon, Jose and yourself but there were 5 or 6 of you that I could have put at the top. I wish we could enter our preference from top to bottom and it get sorted out that way so some of the people that we like but just barely don't vote for would get more credit, but for now we have to only give one vote.

rjdimariamiskovic

10-25-2007, 12:22 PM

WOW!!! Doesn't this last hour of voting look just like the last hour of round 1???

Brandon Hanvey

10-25-2007, 12:24 PM

WOW!!! Doesn't this last hour of voting look just like the last hour of round 1???

This has always been the case with CBI. Some people save their vote for the last minute in order to either save someone or push someone out.

rjdimariamiskovic

10-25-2007, 12:27 PM

This has always been the case with CBI. Some people save their vote for the last minute in order to either save someone or push someone out.
COOL. They're all good, especially Dan McDaid.

ChicoBarney

10-25-2007, 12:28 PM

I really love Caio Oliveira's work! Cebulski, you're one of my CHAMPIONS, Loners is rockin the boat and you should write a regular series for them (maybe with CO art?)

SEE YA

polystyleneman

10-25-2007, 12:29 PM

This has always been the case with CBI. Some people save their vote for the last minute in order to either save someone or push someone out.

Seems to me it's stayed pretty steady throughout concerning the order of who's in the lead through to who's trailing behind. Of course, with a few neck and necks and reversals here and there, but overall...

Brandon Hanvey

10-25-2007, 12:35 PM

Seems to me it's stayed pretty steady throughout concerning the order of who's in the lead through to who's trailing behind. Of course, with a few neck and necks and reversals here and there, but overall...

In terms of who is being eliminated, yes the votes are pretty steady. It's mostly a fight for the top which really only means you get to go to Round 3 along with 5 other people that is seeing most of the action.

Brandon Hanvey

10-25-2007, 12:47 PM

Right now, I hate you more than I hate ballot stuffers :p

Oh I bet you are going to hate me more in Round 3's late night vote checking/recap.

escapegoat

10-25-2007, 12:49 PM

Oh I bet you are going to hate me more in Round 3's late night vote checking/recap.

Alright!!! Let's get some of that Cowell/Seacrest in-fightin' action happenin' :p

polystyleneman

10-25-2007, 12:53 PM

Alright!!! Let's get some of that Cowell/Seacrest in-fightin' action happenin' :p

So who's going to be the drunk Paula Abdul? :confused:

rjdimariamiskovic

10-25-2007, 12:54 PM

Alright!!! Let's get some of that Cowell/Seacrest in-fightin' action happenin' :p
SO which contestant is Sanjiah???:)

Brandon Hanvey

10-25-2007, 12:55 PM

Alright!!! Let's get some of that Cowell/Seaccrest in-fightin' action happenin' :p

I don't know if I'm really either of those guys. Sure J. is Seaccrest, but I'm more guy on American Idol who works at the phone bank and makes sure they don't go down.

Rilyth

10-25-2007, 12:59 PM

Caioooooo!!!!!

Se fode aí gringo xD

Don't say such a thing! :mad: Please guys, we'll need the votes of our american friends in the next rounds. :( This kind of behaviour will not help at all!

escapegoat

10-25-2007, 01:00 PM

I put my vote behind CPW3, since none of my favorites were in danger of being eliminated, and his was this best this round (Though Jose woulda gotten the vote if he was in danger ;) )

kamgates

10-25-2007, 01:00 PM

Charles Paul Wilson III I think you deserve to win this round and you've got my vote. Caio to me is a close second (though he appears to be passing you in the votes right about now.. hrrmm...) To me this story was all about tapping into that nostalgia and emotional connection. Your subtlety of gesture and especially facial expressions really pulled that off for me this week and set you at a higher level.

Dan McDaid and Jose Holder, I feel your numbers are unnaturally low. I'd have ranked you at three and four this round. It could be my own personal preference talking, but have sent out the mass e-mail to friends and coworkers to come out and vote? A little extra love never hurt anyone. Personally I think you two have the most polished styles in the competition. To me the difference came down to expressions that were a little off or bland. It just didn't quite pull me into the story emotionally the way Caio and C.P. did.

Nick Pitarra and Jon Reed, your styles are just cool. It's that 'show me something I haven't seen before' thing. I think you're the two most original artists in the competition right now. I didn't feel this weeks assignment played to either of your strengths, but if either of you were in danger I'd probably vote for you to help you stay. I just really want you around next week to keep things interesting. In an industry where 'name' artists are a big part of it, I think that will serve you well.

That leaves Wilfredo Torres and Andrew Huerta... :( I think everyone really kicked things up a notch from Round 1 and you guys should be proud of what you submitted. Competitions like this are designed to eliminate quality people who just didn't happen to reach out and grab the audience by the throat at every given moment. Hell, I'm still missing Daniel Lafrance. You should see what he's got over in Play at Home it's really good.

Anyway, great job everyone!

Brandon Hanvey

10-25-2007, 01:01 PM

Caioooooo!!!!!

Se fode aí gringo xD

Don't say such a thing! :mad: Please guys, I'll need the votes of my american friends in the next rounds. :( This kind of behaviour will not help me at all!

I have to agree (after I ran it through a translator). Please don't slur anyone.

Remember the simple rule.
Keep it civil or you don't get to stay.

Brandon Hanvey

10-25-2007, 01:03 PM

The poll is closed.

Please note that the final results will be posted soon after the organizers check things out.

Goyo

10-25-2007, 01:04 PM

I have to agree (after I ran it through a translator). Please don't slur anyone.

Remember the simple rule.
Keep it civil or you don't get to stay.

Agreed.

Just hope you guys don't think everybody who's Brazilian and/or supporting Caio is for this kind of behaviour.;)

Brandon Hanvey

10-25-2007, 01:08 PM

Agreed.

Just hope you guys don't think everybody who's Brazilian and/or supporting Caio is for this kind of behaviour.;)

Of course not. Almost all of you have been very polite and friendly.

And if there is anything you guys need in terms of Forum help, I'm here to serve.

polystyleneman

10-25-2007, 01:09 PM

Agreed.

Just hope you guys don't think everybody who's Brazilian and/or supporting Caio is for this kind of behaviour.;)

Yeah, that's pretty messed up.

shwa96

10-25-2007, 01:16 PM

Looks like it's Brazil vs. The World

J. Torres

10-25-2007, 01:25 PM

So who's going to be the drunk Paula Abdul? :confused:

Jonah Weiland :D

Brandon Hanvey

10-25-2007, 01:26 PM

Jonah Weiland :D

I see Jonah as more of the Randy of the group.

DidCart

10-25-2007, 01:26 PM

That's the way, guys.
We, brazillians, are good people.
And we love comic books too... so... we are hobbie friends!

jean sinclair

10-25-2007, 01:35 PM

Looks like it's Brazil vs. The World

What wouldn´t be.

The competition is funny and very exciting. I´m so glad to see these great artists making his best.

I really hope that the next rounds don´t become in a World War.

Peace!

See ya.

Brandon Hanvey

10-25-2007, 01:38 PM

What wouldn´t be.

I really hope that the next rounds don´t become in a World War.

I'll do my best Henry Kissinger impression to make sure it doesn't.

Brandon Hanvey

10-25-2007, 01:40 PM

When I say keep it civil, I mean it for everyone.

Brandon Hanvey

10-25-2007, 01:53 PM

The final results for Round 2

http://cbi.comicbookresources.com/cbi3/cbi-round-2-final-results/

W.Blankenship

10-25-2007, 02:08 PM

Sorry, I actually just went to edit that out after seeing some of Ciao's followers reaction to it, but you had already done that.

Sorry again.

3!LL

Caio Oliveira

10-25-2007, 02:10 PM

We are all brothers here. In the end of this competition, we'll all play a friendly soccer game. :)

Jerkmeister

10-25-2007, 02:11 PM

Brandon Hanvey

10-25-2007, 02:18 PM

escapegoat

10-25-2007, 02:18 PM

Brandon Hanvey

10-25-2007, 02:20 PM

We are all brothers here. In the end of this competition, we'll all play a friendly soccer game. :)

But I suck at sports. The only game I'm good at is World of Warcraft.

shwa96

10-25-2007, 02:23 PM

Jose Holder is third last makes no sense. The last round Michael Turner thought his work was the best. This round C. B. Cebulski thought his work was in the top-3. The judges think he's great and I personally love his work, particularly his style of hatching and subtle pebbling. His composition though is his strong point. So why isn't he getting votes?

Because you only get one vote.

It's second place syndrome. The same thing happened with Dan McDaid. Everyone seems to think they're great, but this week they weren't the best (top 3), so the votes go to who they think were best. So when South America votes for Ciao and everyone else votes for Charles, even though they all liked McDaid and Jose, there are no votes left for them, except for the few people who hold back their votes to save the guys they see as 2nd and 3rd best. That's what I did. Charles was my favorite of the week, but I voted for Dan to make sure he moved on.

You know, if everyone got to vote top 3, ranking 1st, 2nd, and 3rd and assigning weighted points based on that, we'd probably get a much more representative vote. And we'd get rid of the problem of someone moving on just because their friends vote for them. Granted, there's nothing wrong with getting your friends and personal supporters to vote for you, but this way at least they'd also have to pick a second and a third place and give some points to other artists.

polystyleneman

10-25-2007, 02:30 PM

You know, if everyone got to vote top 3, ranking 1st, 2nd, and 3rd and assigning weighted points based on that, we'd probably get a much more representative vote. And we'd get rid of the problem of someone moving on just because their friends vote for them. Granted, there's nothing wrong with getting your friends and personal supporters to vote for you, but this way at least they'd also have to pick a second and a third place and give some points to other artists.

HERE! HERE! All voting should be done like this.

kamgates

10-25-2007, 02:30 PM

It's second place syndrome. The same thing happened with Dan McDaid. Everyone seems to think they're great, but this week they weren't the best (top 3), so the votes go to who they think were best. So when South America votes for Ciao and everyone else votes for Charles, even though they all liked McDaid and Jose, there are no votes left for them, except for the few people who hold back their votes to save the guys they see as 2nd and 3rd best. That's what I did.

Yeah, that's the way I've been going about it too. I vote for the best only if I feel the people who also really deserve to move on are safe. I'd hate it if we lost someone who deserves to stay due to the 'people you know' factor. Rallying supporters wherever you can is part of the game, but I'm hoping it will have less of an impact as the weeks progress and more votes are centered on less people.

Brandon Hanvey

10-25-2007, 02:33 PM

gelows

10-25-2007, 02:35 PM

Congrats, Caio. Good luck.

Why you guys cant write his name right? :D

shwa96

10-25-2007, 02:38 PM

Yeah, that's the way I've been going about it too. I vote for the best only if I feel the people who also really deserve to move on are safe. I'd hate it if we lost someone who deserves to stay due to the 'people you know' factor. Rallying supporters wherever you can is part of the game, but I'm hoping it will have less of an impact as the weeks progress and more votes are centered on less people.

Exactly. Think about it this way. Say a first place vote was weighted at 3 points, a second 2 points, and a third 1 point.

One artist turns in a sample that isn't very good, but he has 100 supporters who vote him first place regardless (and before anyone jumps on me, this is a hypothetical artist, not Caio), which is fine, because they're his fans. Since his submission wasn't great though, no one else gives him second or third place votes.

Another artist turns in a great submission and gets the same 100 first place votes, but they also get 100 second place votes and 100 third place votes because the supporters of other artists liked what he did as well. Not enough to give him first, but enough to call him top 3.

I this scenario, the first artist would have 300 points and the second would have 600...much more representative of the quality of their work and what the fans thing, right? In the current voting system, however, those two artists would be exactly tied.

So that's my argument.

cg_maniac

10-25-2007, 02:43 PM

If someone has 40-50 voters already lined up every week, they are going to be tough to beat.

Just saying...

shwa96

10-25-2007, 02:45 PM

The forum poll system does not allow for that kind of voting.

So set it up so that people have to pick their 3 favorites in the early rounds and then 2 and then, of course, 1 toward the end. That would be much more representative.

Honestly, with the way the voting is set up and the volume of votes in the early rounds, if I were one of the artists, I could have a monkey scribble on some paper and as long as I could get half my myspace friends to vote for me, I'd move on.

joh james

10-25-2007, 02:46 PM

Thanks to everyone who kept me afloat! Your votes are much appreciated and I hope to honour your loyalty with even better samples next round.

On the voting system: Keep the fans voting the way they do. I like that "The People" to have a say. How much of a say is debatable. I propose a five on - five off approach. Let the judges have more say with a simple point system ranking their 5 faves. The contestant with the lowest average gets bumped. As would the artist with the lowest votes in the fan section dedicated to the other 5. That way every week, we get one vote primarily based on skill, and the popular vote to even things out. Ending in the final confrontation between The Industry Favorite vs. The People's Champion. From there, you're on your own. I've got brain freeze!

J. Torres

10-25-2007, 02:50 PM

You people expect us to explain this ranking system to individuals, say, who have enough trouble with simple instructions like "do not post here"? And you want us to maintain a poll that requires people submitting three times as much data? Which means potentially three times as many e-mails with messages like "I need to change my vote because I thought I was supposed to eliminate someone"? And worst of all... it smells like math! On top of everything else we have to do behind-the-scenes, you want us to do math?!

You're all quite insane. Go run your own contest. Or better yet, harness that enthusiasm to fix the electoral process.

:p

Brandon Hanvey

10-25-2007, 02:51 PM

On top of everything else we have to do behind-the-scenes, you want us to do math?!

To quote Brabie "Math is hard"

Patrick_McEvoy

10-25-2007, 02:54 PM

J. Torres

10-25-2007, 02:55 PM

Honestly, with the way the voting is set up and the volume of votes in the early rounds, if I were one of the artists, I could have a monkey scribble on some paper and as long as I could get half my myspace friends to vote for me, I'd move on.

No, you wouldn't because if anyone turned in something like that we'd boot them out for not taking this seriously. Their MySpace friends wouldn't even get the chance to vote. We work hard to put on this show, that kind of disrespect would not only cost you the contest but a potential career in comics. Honestly, indeed.

shwa96

10-25-2007, 02:59 PM

shwa96

10-25-2007, 03:01 PM

No, you wouldn't because if anyone turned in something like that we'd boot them out for not taking this seriously. Their MySpace friends wouldn't even get the chance to vote. We work hard to put on this show, that kind of disrespect would not only cost you the contest but a potential career in comics. Honestly, indeed.

I would hope that you would boot them, but that's not the point. I was using an extreme example to demonstrate that the early rounds of voting don't necessarily eliminate the two weakest submissions.

Fodaum

10-25-2007, 03:02 PM

iu-huuuuuuuu

My God, what exciting final.

I was gnawing the nails... this game is very good, better that municipal verification.

Wilfredo and Huerta - congratulations, wish I was were you where.

Holder, McDaid, Pitarra, Reed, Wilson and Caio - top 6, I could not wait for next round...

Good Look.

Brandon Hanvey

10-25-2007, 03:02 PM

joh james

10-25-2007, 03:04 PM

Congrats on squeaking by Jose - you were my vote again this week, and I hope you can start to gather some more votes in the next round. The pros giving critiques seem to agree that you're one of the best, and I hope that translates into more voting success. But it's an amazingly high level of competition so it's going to be tough for everyone. :)

Thanks, Pat. Squeeky clean! That's me. No really. I'm a closet germaphobe! And thanks to the judges and CBR officiators for bearing with my art, and my inspirations. The competition is indeed a whopper! FIVE ON, FIVE OFF! There, I said it again.

shwa96

10-25-2007, 03:04 PM

But that would conflict with our one vote one person rule.

Naturally. We're discussing a change to the rules.

polystyleneman

10-25-2007, 03:10 PM

To quote Brabie "Math is hard"

fuzzy math...

J. Torres

10-25-2007, 03:11 PM

Then don't do a weighted vote since the forum voting machine doesn't allow for it anyway. Just make it so that they must select two...top two, no order, and the voting will sort itself out. No math necessary.

I should know better, after three seasons, than to get into these discussions :D

My final word on this: While the contest has evolved over time, there are certain components we're just not going to change, for better or worse. It is what it is and, for the most part, the contestants, judges and fans participate in CBI knowing how things work (and we try to be as transparent as possible in that regard) just as the voters on American Idol know how that works or comic creators voting on the Eisners know how that works. I appreciate the feedback and attempts to make the contest more "fair and balanced" as you see it, but sorry, this is the way it is.

Until we decide it isn't. Which we won't. So there.

kamgates

10-25-2007, 03:12 PM

I was using an extreme example to demonstrate that the early rounds of voting don't necessarily eliminate the two weakest submissions.

So far though, I think the weakest two have been eliminated each week. I by no means want to diminish the quality work they've submitted, but at this particular time on these particular assignments I feel they were the weakest. I think it's in the middle that things might not line up right, but really, that's ok because those people get to advance anyway.

I feel this is in a large part due to the fact that we can SEE the poll. I think that helps a lot. I voted for Jose in week 1 because he was too close to the bottom and I didn't want him to go. A lot of people do that, so if someone is unnaturally low he starts picking up more votes. AND, as I said before, as we have more votes centered on less people each person's individual fan base won't impact things as much.

It'll be ok guys. :o

J. Torres

10-25-2007, 03:15 PM

I would hope that you would boot them, but that's not the point. I was using an extreme example to demonstrate that the early rounds of voting don't necessarily eliminate the two weakest submissions.

"Weakest" according to whom? And by what standards? There's no accounting for taste...

davidbovey

10-25-2007, 03:16 PM

joh james

10-25-2007, 03:18 PM

Thanks, Kam. I SO needed it! And in case you're wondering, I might need it again....;)

And just for the record:(.... my idea was the easiest/innovative:(... and so ignored:(==

J. Torres

10-25-2007, 03:18 PM

So far though, I think the weakest two have been eliminated each week.

See, shwa96!

With all due respect, I've found over the last three seasons of this that the people with the biggest problem with how the voting goes down (and by extension those do not like the system) are the ones whose personal taste don't necessarily jive with (or can't accept) what the general public chooses...

(Wait, didn't I say I was done with this topic? No, really. Moving on. Oh, look, I've got a deadline tomorrow...)

The_YadaBirds

10-25-2007, 03:24 PM

Caio Oliveira!!!

Goyo

10-25-2007, 03:29 PM

The forum poll system does not allow for that kind of voting.

You can set it so people can choose more than more selection, but we like to keep the one vote one person model.

It would be hard work but wouldn't it be possible to create 3 polls, one for "your favourite artist", another for "your second favourite artist" and another one for "your third favourite artist"?

Someone should com up with a formula giving points to votes given in each poll, and then maybe results would be more accurate.

Maybe each vote given as favourite artists earns 5 points, then for second favourite 2 points and for third favourite 1 point (being favourite should have more weight, in my point of view). There would be a lot of counting after polls were closed, but maybe it could work.

Of course, votes for the same artist in different "categories" would be eliminated, since someone voting for the same person in all 3 polls would be able to give someone 8 points.

Anyway, too late for this edition, maybe t could be tested for next Comic Book Idol, who knows?

Brandon Hanvey

10-25-2007, 03:31 PM

C.B. picks Charles Paul Wilson III as his choice for Round 2.

http://cbi.comicbookresources.com/cbi3/round-three-six-the-hard-way/

There are no losers here, but we do have a winner this round. However, unlike Round 1, the bonus prize in Round 2 does not go to the top vote-getter but rather C.B.’s personal favorite. This hand-picked artist will have his “What Matters Most” pages published in Image Comics’ forthcoming Wonderlost trade paperback. And that lucky and deserving contestant (if you haven’t figured it out by now) is… Charles Paul Wilson III!

Congratulations once again, Charles!

You went the extra mile and lettered your pages, which won you brownie points, but it was the overall quality of your storytelling and attention to detail that made you a fan-favorite as well as one of the judges’ favorites, including of course C.B.’s. That’s two for two. Let’s see if that “III” stands for three-peat.

Keep an eye on CBR for more on Charles and the publishing details of his work for Wonderlost.

shwa96

10-25-2007, 03:31 PM

See, shwa96!

With all due respect, I've found over the last three seasons of this that the people with the biggest problem with how the voting goes down (and by extension disagree with the system) are the ones whose personal taste don't necessarily jive with (or can't accept) what the general public chooses...

Well, then I must be the exception to the rule, because if you look back at my previous comments, I'm quite happy to see CPW doing well.

It's a given that everyone has personal tastes, that's exactly my point. If a high percentage of the votes are being cast based on loyalty, then taste is a very small factor in the outcome. If you make the people who are only voting for their friend also vote for someone else that they think is good, then personal taste comes back into the equation.

Brandon Hanvey

10-25-2007, 03:32 PM

It would be hard work but wouldn't it be possible to create 3 polls, one for "your favourite artist", another for "your second favourite artist" and another one for "your third favourite artist"?

Someone should com up with a formula giving points to votes given in each poll, and then maybe results would be more accurate.

Three polls per round? Are you trying to kill me? I have enough work checking one.

shwa96

10-25-2007, 03:33 PM

Three polls per round? Are you trying to kill me? I have enough work checking one.

You couldn't do three polls per round anyway because some people would just vote for the same person 3 times. The only way to do it would be to give people multiple votes on the same poll.

J. Torres

10-25-2007, 03:36 PM

Well, then I must be the exception to the rule, because if you look back at my previous comments, I'm quite happy to see CPW doing well.

It's a given that everyone has personal tastes, that's exactly my point. If a high percentage of the votes are being cast based on loyalty, then taste is a very small factor in the outcome. If you make the people who are only voting for their friend also vote for someone else that they think is good, then personal taste comes back into the equation.

But the person with the most friends can still win. You're asking us to replace an imperfect system with a more complicated, higher maintenance imperfect system. You cannot eliminate the imperfections when taste and so-called democracy are involved.

And that, really, is my final word on this.

The next person who baits me gets banned.

(Just kidding! Or maybe not...)

Goyo

10-25-2007, 03:38 PM

Three polls per round? Are you trying to kill me? I have enough work checking one.

It's a dirty job, but someone would have to do it!:D

Brandon Hanvey

10-25-2007, 03:38 PM

You couldn't do three polls per round anyway because some people would just vote for the same person 3 times. The only way to do it would be to give people multiple votes on the same poll.

Exactly. While our current system is far from perfect, I think it works for the most part. Sure you are going to get friends, family and co-workers voting for their favorite, but you also have people who don't know any of these guys voting for the work they like the best. I think it balances out in the end.

It's just like indie publishing. Your friends, family and co-workers by your book because the want to encourage and like your work. But you also get people you never knew buying your book as well.

escapegoat

10-25-2007, 03:39 PM

Bizargoat calls for best three out of two round-robin thumbwars to determine the victor! Make it so!!!

Brandon Hanvey

10-25-2007, 03:40 PM

Bizargoat calls for best three out of two round-robin thumbwars to determine the victor! Make it so!!!

I say we have the contestants fight in a steel cage while Star Trek fight music plays.

J. Torres

10-25-2007, 03:42 PM

I say we have the contestants fight in a steel cage while Star Trek fight music plays.

That's it, Hanvey! You're banned!

(Hey, that could be my "you're fired" or "the tribe has spoken.")

Brandon Hanvey

10-25-2007, 03:43 PM

That's it, Hanvey! You're banned!

(Hey, that could be my "you're fired" or "the tribe has spoken.")

Ha. Only I have the power to ban myself. Unless Jonah is around.

*Runs off*

shwa96

10-25-2007, 03:44 PM

But the person with the most friends can still win. You're asking us to replace an imperfect system with a more complicated, higher maintenance imperfect system. You cannot eliminate the imperfections when taste and so-called democracy are involved.

And that, really, is my final word on this.

The next person who baits me gets banned.

(Just kidding! Or maybe not...)

Of course it's not perfect, but you would need A LOT more friends to pull off a win.

You can say it's too difficult, you can say you just prefer the current system...that's fine. It's your contest, so it's your call. Just don't try to tell me that the current system is better at determining what the people really think, because it isn't. Anyone who's taken statistics can tell you that if you increase the sample your margin for error will go down.

J. Torres

10-25-2007, 03:49 PM

You can say it's too difficult, you can say you just prefer the current system...that's fine. It's your contest, so it's your call. Just don't try to tell me that the current system is better at determining what the people really think, because it isn't. Anyone who's taken statistics can tell you that if you increase the sample your margin for error will go down.

Statistics?! That sounds like math! And I already told you people how I feel about math!

That's it, you're #2 in line for banishment!

Who's next? Take a number!

Wait. Numbers are math... take a letter instead, beyotches!

But seriously, no one said "better." I said, "it is what it is." Shuffle up and deal.

(This is called procrastination, folks. I really do have a deadline tomorrow.)

Brandon Hanvey

10-25-2007, 03:52 PM

(This is called procrastination, folks. I really do have a deadline tomorrow.)

Yeah shouldn't you be written something about Wonder Girl or Teen Titans?

*Looks at the books waiting for production on his shelf*

J. Torres

10-25-2007, 03:53 PM

Ha. Only I have the power to ban myself. Unless Jonah is around.

*Runs off*

Jonah? You mean the Paula Adbul wannabe I keep in my back pocket? Watch yourself, BH.

Okay, enough silliness. Next topic...

In previous CBIs, the number of votes usually went up in subsequent rounds. The overall number of votes dropped about 150 this round from the last. Departing contestants Daniel Lafrance and Warren Leonhardt had about 110 voters supporting them in Round 1. Even if they all left us, that still leaves 40 unaccounted for. Where did everybody go?

Discuss.

Brandon Hanvey

10-25-2007, 03:54 PM

Graphs of Round 2 should be up tonight.

escapegoat

10-25-2007, 03:58 PM

Jonah? You mean the Paula Adbul wannabe I keep in my back pocket? Watch yourself, BH.

Okay, enough silliness. Next topic...

In previous CBIs, the number of votes usually went up in subsequent rounds. The overall number of votes dropped about 150 this round from the last. Departing contestants Daniel Lafrance and Warren Leonhardt had about 110 voters supporting them in Round 1. Even if they all left us, that still leaves 40 unaccounted for. Where did everybody go?

Discuss.

Again, I have to blame sunspot activity.... :p

Mateus

10-25-2007, 04:13 PM

I don't think that you can look back at the previous two Idol contests and say that the artists who won didn't deserve it. Yeah, some people that maybe shouldn't have lasted as long, did so because they were able to drudge up votes from their circle. But that becomes much more difficult to do as the rounds progress.
Exactly. Even if someone has 100 friends voting for him every round, in the final rounds this won't even be near enough to keep him in the game. So this counts now but in the end I think the winner will be the one that gets more votes from people who didn't know their works from before.

Oh, and congratulations to both Caio (or maybe Ciao, since everyone is writing like this :D ) and Charles for being the top voted this round, and Charles especially for being CB's favorite.

Mateus

10-25-2007, 04:17 PM

In previous CBIs, the number of votes usually went up in subsequent rounds. The overall number of votes dropped about 150 this round from the last. Departing contestants Daniel Lafrance and Warren Leonhardt had about 110 voters supporting them in Round 1. Even if they all left us, that still leaves 40 unaccounted for. Where did everybody go?

Discuss.
That's easy, first round had hot chicks, explosions and nudity, now all we had was teenage tales of a comic book writer. Just keep that in mind when thinking of next assignments.

sgt pepper

10-25-2007, 04:53 PM

This contest is bogus. I don't know what Caio Oliveira is trying to prove, but wouldn't he rather win on artistic merit? If not, what's the point of this whole thing? Everytime he wins, he should be confident that it's only because he has asked people to vote for him because of his nationality rather than his art. Why does he bother making the drawings at all? Just submit blank pages and let your bogus voters declare you the winner.

It's a disgrace and the guy should drop out of the competition.

Brandon Hanvey

10-25-2007, 04:56 PM

sgt pepper

10-25-2007, 05:04 PM

You could say the same for other contestants such as Charles Wilson who has the backing of Ten Ton Studios.

You can never force someone to vote for a certain reason. Everyone has their own reason to vote the way they do whether it be quality, style, relation, or whatever.

Well then I will say the same about Wilson. I was wondering why these guys were coming out on top and I guess we now know. So this isn't a talent competetion after all. Have fun with your cheating, cheaters. I hope you don't take any pride in your first and second place finishes because they don't reflect your talent.

Seriously, I urge you both to submit blank pages for the next challenge. If you're trying to make a mockery of this competition (which you are doing), why not go all the way?

Brandon Hanvey

10-25-2007, 05:10 PM

Well then I will say the same about Wilson. I was wondering why these guys were coming out on top and I guess we now know. So this isn't a talent competetion after all. Have fun with your cheating, cheaters. I hope you don't take any pride in your first and second place finishes.

How is it cheating that they have backers who only have one vote each?

Each contestant is free to organize a campaign be it email, message board, blog, etc. Plus everyone here at CBR can freely vote anytime they want.

Each contestant was chosen to be here because the panel thought they have talent to win. Now it's up to them to prove it.

Caio Oliveira

10-25-2007, 05:13 PM

Well then I will say the same about Wilson. I was wondering why these guys were coming out on top and I guess we now know. So this isn't a talent competetion after all. Have fun with your cheating, cheaters. I hope you don't take any pride in your first and second place finishes because they don't reflect your talent.

Seriously, I urge you both to submit blank pages for the next challenge. If you're trying to make a mockery of this competition (which you are doing), why not go all the way?

Wow! Look pal, we don't came up with the rules, and if you ask me to rewrite them the winner would be pointed by the judges. But it's not up to me.

Brandon Hanvey

10-25-2007, 05:17 PM

Wow! Look pal, we don't came up with the rules, and if you ask me to rewrite them the winner would be pointed by the judges. But it's not up to me.

And depending on the round the "winner" is sometimes chosen by a judge such as CB picking Wilson in Round 2.

For rounds 1-4, there are no real winners, unless there is a public picked prize. There are just two guys who don't make it and the rest go on to the next round.

sjpress

10-25-2007, 05:30 PM

Whoa, hey wait a second.

There are only, say twenty, Ten Ton guys voting over here. Both Nick and Charles are members of Ten Ton, and members have voted either way each round, and some have voted for neither Charles nor Nick. The guys and gals of Ten Ton are pretty professional like that, and have repeatedly said that even though they are familiar with the artwork and antics of Nick and Charles, that they will tend to vote for the artwork of the contestant, any contestant, that they like best.

Regardless, it is not cheating for an artist to have a fan base. It IS cheating for members of that fan base to stuff ballots, etc...which has been addressed. Maybe, you should do some deep thinking about how artists may come to have a fan base. Charles, Nick and Caio (most likely), spent hours of time creating and sharing their art with other members of the forum, they received and gave critiques, shared common interests, possibly met up at some cons, and along the way, gained some new friends.

Maybe if you spent some time doing the same, instead of accusing people of cheating for making friends in the art world, you would have a fan base to support you too.

The End.