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Jack Flash
10-23-2007, 07:58 PM
I got this idea from Brian M. and posted my thoughts in X-cres but the more I think about it, the more I want to hear what other's want to see happen. Now remember this isn't for Spoilers. Just what people would like to see.

Pach!
10-23-2007, 08:00 PM
The return of Jean Grey... but finding a way to get rid of the Phoenix though. And no Cyclops romantic get together.

frog
10-23-2007, 08:01 PM
A big reunion between the present and past members would be fun. I'd prefer it to be a character issue rather than an action issue.

That's probably not going to happen but it's what I'd like to see.

Petes Pants
10-23-2007, 08:08 PM
Sage.

64 pages of Sage naked in a bathtub filled with Pine-Sol singing to her glasses.

With a Sage backup story and pinup gallery.

Featuring a cameo by Rem-Ram and a flashback of Mammomax looking all adorable.

Brian M.
10-23-2007, 08:11 PM
Starts w/ #499, Jean is the surpise on the last page. She's back.

#500 starts off with some of the core members talking about how to accept her...do they worry about Phoenix or do they believe her when she says that Phoenix is gone now, it found another host. (Keep Rachel in space and give it to her). Cyclops says he doesn't know, but right now after all that has happened, he's happy to have atleast his friend back.

Later Hank suggests that he and Scott go out to get a drink, it's been a while since they've just talked. On the way out they run into Warren and Bobby. Just as they get into Warren's car Jean comes out and asks to join them.

Driving to either A) Harry's Hideaway or B) Cafe-a-Go-Go they don't say much. Each one goes through a special memory, something that reminds them of why they are where they are.

Upon arriving they find an old, gray haired Bernard the Poet. It eases tensions and they begin to talk. It starts with a reflection of what's happened, before Messiah, after Messiah, current changes. This issue would be a jump on point. Maybe even a little hint at Scott and Jean flirtation.

After a lot of great character moments the last few pages switch to Magneto. What has been hinted at in the Morlock arc of Uncanny is finally taking place. Magneto is making his move. The O5 see him TV attacking a military base. They rush to the scene and the last page of the issue is a homage to Uncanny #1 cover.
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It's my dream issue and not your obviously so if you don't like it, I don't care.

Hi-Fi
10-23-2007, 08:11 PM
A big reunion between the present and past members would be fun. I'd prefer it to be a character issue rather than an action issue.
Here here!

A Halloween party, I'd say!

Petes Pants
10-23-2007, 08:13 PM
I like Brian's idea. It seems sweet and that last page sounds awesome.

It just doesn't touch my Sage fantasy.

Jack Flash
10-23-2007, 08:13 PM
The X-Mansion Cemetery has been grave robbed!

Kurt's team arrives back at the mansion to find a bunch of empty graves *tears and prayers* Synch's grave is empty. So is Banshee's. So is Risque's. Cypher's and OMG Jean's.
Jamie's Xfactor team is brought in and put in charge of investigation. Cyke is particularly devastated.

It turns out that Emplate in a fit of starvation has robbed the graves of mutants to feast on their Genes. Wanda didn't wipe out dead mutants, just the living ones. So he's been forced to dig for his supper!His mutant power has re-animated the dead X-men and brought them back to life but under his thrall. so it's X-factor and Kurt's team versus Emplate's Hellions and his reanimated Dead X-men.
so it's

Emplate
Vincente
Bulwark
Ebon
DOA
Murmur
and
Zombieesque Synch
Zombieesque Banshee
Zombieesque Risque
Zombieesque Cypher
Zombieesque Jean Grey
versus
Jamie - Angry at Cyke
Rahne - aggh dead Cypher
M - Aggh her brother and her dead mentor
Siryn - Aggh dead pop
Layla - She knows stuff
Rictor - He's hot
Kurt - Religious issues with zombies
Warpath - Dead ex-Girlfriend!
Hepzibah - aggh new BF's dead GF!
Caliban
Darwin
Skids - I *heart* Sally
Guest starring Astonishing and New X-men

So it's a Battle Royale with New X-men and Astonishing Cast jumping in on the smack down too. Emplate Templates 3 or 4 others (Karma, Hellion, Caliban, and Jamie -Emplated Dupes Galore!) His Hellions are kicking butt. Emplated Jamie alone is almost more than they can handle. All looks grim for the X-folk when....

Vincente and the Dead X-men turn on Emplate and the Hellions just as he's about to win. With the tide turning, Cyke and M take down the maniac Marius. Cyke lets loose like a man with nothing to lose and puts Emplate into a coma with the power of his blasts. With Marius out, the "Dead" X-men fall into comas. With that all the Emplated folks regain their freedom. Vincente and the rest of the Hellions are finally free!

Cyke deals with Jean's pseudo return. *tears*
Siryn deals with Banshee's pseudo return. *tears*
Rahne deals with Cypher's pseudo return. *tears*
Faded buys me a cake for Risque's pseudo return.

M is asked to stay on at the mansion to help contain Marius. Siryn chooses to stay to be near her pops. Risque and Cypher awaken from their comas. and have to deal with being woken from beyond the living.

Cyke and Xavier have a heart to heart and get back on same page. Charles is moving back to Muir to do research. Hepzibah and Caliban choose to follow Charles to Muir.

Forge is brought on as the Headmaster for the New X-men kiddos.

Cyke discusses a need to revamp the teams to better protect the mansion and the kiddos.

new Teams after the attack are revealed. Each has an 05 member as a Co-Leader with an up and Comer as the other co-leader. Cyke wants to balance the future of the X-men with the past.

Uncanny
Written by Bru and drawn by Pollina
Beast - Co-Leader
Madrox - Co-Leader
Warpath
Risque
Siryn
Darwin
M

X-men
Written by Carey and drawn by Bachalo
Iceman - Co-Leader
Cannonball - Co-Leader
Skids
Vincente
Magik
Karma
Sunspot

Astonishing X-men
Written by Ellis and drawn by Copiel
Cyke - Co-Leader
Rogue - Co-Leader
Emma Frost
Colossus
Kitty
Nightcrawler
Empath

X-Factor (same creative Team)
Angel, a Dupe of Jamie, Layla, Rahne, Cypher, Rictor along with Husk return to Mutant Town to continue X-Factor

It ends with Synch and Banshee still in comas. and you span over to Jean's bed and it's empty. *GASP!*

Accroître
10-23-2007, 08:50 PM
Jean returns.

She slaps Emma around revealing that she is still the wicked White Queen. Jean is still as powerful as ever and in TOTAL control of the Phoenix. She decides to relinquish control of it to Rachel and Cable.

Jean goes back to Emma. Continues the throw down...

The original 5 are together again with no 'new' mutants, and the book decides to focus on the orginals once again. Archangels returns because Apocolypse gift of his real wings expires because Angel didn't return to his side once his original wings grew back. But before Jean turns control over to Rachel and Cable, Jean 'heals' Beast back to his former mutation and is no longer the Beast from Beauty and the Beast! Jean and Cyclops renew their vows. All in a giant size issue.

and Jean kicks Emma back to the Hell Fire Club.

No major villian other than Emma is revealed to be a traitor.

Following this issue, the orginal 5 take off to each major country where the HFC is present, shutting them down leading them to NY where they face off once again with them. Emma tucks her head and runs due to the beating for issue 500. HFC regroups for another day.

This would be my dream issue for 500 focused more on the characters than action.

Drawn by Joe Mad and Jim Lee inked by Whilce Portracio

Brian M.
10-23-2007, 08:53 PM
Jean returns.

She slaps Emma around revealing that she is still the wicked White Queen. Jean is still as powerful as ever and in TOTAL control of the Phoenix. She decides to relinquish control of it to Rachel and Cable.

Jean goes back to Emma. Continues the throw down...

The original 5 are together again with no 'new' mutants, and the book decides to focus on the orginals once again. Archangels returns because Apocolypse gift of his real wings expires because Angel didn't return to his side once his original wings grew back. But before Jean turns control over to Rachel and Cable, Jean 'heals' Beast back to his former mutation and is no longer the Beast from Beauty and the Beast! Jean and Cyclops renew their vows. All in a giant size issue.

and Jean kicks Emma back to the Hell Fire Club.

No major villian other than Emma is revealed to be a traitor.

Following this issue, the orginal 5 take off to each major country where the HFC is present, shutting them down leading them to NY where they face off once again with them. Emma tucks her head and runs due to the beating for issue 500. HFC regroups for another day.

This would be my dream issue for 500 focused more on the characters than action.

I like this poster.

Accroître
10-23-2007, 08:54 PM
I like this poster.

Thanks Brian M! Fab 5 are the best!

Petes Pants
10-23-2007, 08:55 PM
So, what if Sage drew a picture of the original 5 on a maxi-pad? Would you like my idea more?

P.S. You wouldn't actually see the maxi-pad. It would be covered by a giant KRAKABOOM because it's thundering outside while she towels off after her bath.

Omega Alpha
10-23-2007, 08:59 PM
Jean Grey returns only to have the X-men threw rocks at them and say they want her dead. Then she goes to the Shining White Smoking Hot Room cry and never comes back again. And she takes Thunderbird III, Storm, Bishop and Sage with her.

IRONY...
10-23-2007, 09:00 PM
Starts w/ #499, Jean is the surpise on the last page. She's back.

#500 starts off with some of the core members talking about how to accept her...do they worry about Phoenix or do they believe her when she says that Phoenix is gone now, it found another host. (Keep Rachel in space and give it to her). Cyclops says he doesn't know, but right now after all that has happened, he's happy to have atleast his friend back.

Later Hank suggests that he and Scott go out to get a drink, it's been a while since they've just talked. On the way out they run into Warren and Bobby. Just as they get into Warren's car Jean comes out and asks to join them.

Driving to either A) Harry's Hideaway or B) Cafe-a-Go-Go they don't say much. Each one goes through a special memory, something that reminds them of why they are where they are.

Upon arriving they find an old, gray haired Bernard the Poet. It eases tensions and they begin to talk. It starts with a reflection of what's happened, before Messiah, after Messiah, current changes. This issue would be a jump on point. Maybe even a little hint at Scott and Jean flirtation.

After a lot of great character moments the last few pages switch to Magneto. What has been hinted at in the Morlock arc of Uncanny is finally taking place. Magneto is making his move. The O5 see him TV attacking a military base. They rush to the scene and the last page of the issue is a homage to Uncanny #1 cover.
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It's my dream issue and not your obviously so if you don't like it, I don't care.

And now the question from the stuck minded X-fan:

Where is Emma when Jeannie is flirting with her boyfriend


Nice Story man...really...no irony...

Monty_Cristo
10-23-2007, 09:01 PM
Shortpack .................................

Brian M.
10-23-2007, 09:03 PM
And now the question from the stuck minded X-fan:

Where is Emma when Jeannie is flirting with her boyfriend


Nice Story man...really...no irony...

Put her at the mansion. Nothing has to really happen between Scott and Jean, Jean tagged along as they were almost out the door. Scott wouldn't say no b/c she's also Hank, Bobby and Warren's friend.

My plan for Scott/Jean again is a slow slow slow burn. Years. A slow dissolution of him and Emma, jealousy gets in the way and a realization that he's never really been over Jean. Something like X-Factor did. You work on the friendship, then you work on a little more of their relationship and then eventually you get them back together.

IRONY...
10-23-2007, 09:03 PM
Jean Grey returns only to have the X-men threw rocks at them and say they want her dead. Then she goes to the Shining White Smoking Hot Room cry and never comes back again. And she takes Thunderbird III, Storm, Bishop and Sage with her.

I would have her return to take those guys in the Room and double lock the door....But I would keep Jean out...I miss her


BTW Thunderbird III is already somewhere locked cause I havent seen him for awhile...

Christopher O
10-23-2007, 09:19 PM
I honestly don't want to see a big flashy anniversary issue. I'd rather see a reflective issue focusing on the ideology and the vision and where it's meant to go next. Xavier, Cyclops, Storm, Emma, Wolverine and perhaps even Magneto would be the featured characters. Others would appear, but those 5 (or 6) would get the focus.

CyberHubbs
10-23-2007, 09:19 PM
The Morlocks.

They are the 'common man' to the X-Men's celebrity status. After the loss of their powers, they're more lost than before. Take a guided tour through their forgotten ranks courtesy of Max Fillmore, a conservationist and nature documentarist that has traveled the globe only to come home and witness the most terrible plight of all. The loss of a species.

He films and interviews the families broken by M-Day. The sub-culture to New York's homeless population, shunned on all sides. Listen to individuals recount where they were during the Mutant Massacre, then down the line of their ignored history until that fateful day when the world awoke to no more mutants.

Erik Lehnsherr
10-23-2007, 09:21 PM
Cylcops and the team reflecting on the anniversary of Jean being dead while Magneto and Xavier have one of those old school debates over the future of mutantkind with Lorna reuniting with Magneto with the subtle hint that his next move is support a mutant candidate for the presidency race of 2008. Classic enough for me.

rilokyle
10-23-2007, 09:22 PM
I too think it would be fitting for Jean to return with issue #500. Either her, or Madelyne Pryor!! :evilsmile

Oh, and Alex and Lorna BETTER be in this one because they were sorely missed in X-Men #200.

ZNOP
10-23-2007, 09:31 PM
[QUOTE=rilokyle;5688210]I too think it would be fitting for Jean to return with issue #500. Either her, or Madelyne Pryor!! :evilsmile
[QUOTE]

Oh, but how would you tell the difference:confused:

DarthCyclopsRLZ
10-23-2007, 09:37 PM
I don't get it.

Gotta say right off the bat I don't really feel strongly one way or another for Maddie.

Why the hell would there be an actual narrative need (hell, make that somewhat sensical purpose) in bringing her back?

Funkdmonkey
10-23-2007, 09:45 PM
A nice anniversary issue that displays the lives of the O5 and other core characters like Storm and Wolverine. The return of Jean Grey would have to be really well done, reasonable, and completely logical, otherwise I'd rather not see it. I'd like to see the issue revolve mostly around Cyclops, with lots of Cable foreshadowing occurring. Maybe going as far as foreshadowing the return of Apocalypse, as a REAL threat.

Having Magneto, Quicksilver or Wanda cameo in the issue would be a definite plus! I really like your idea Brian.

Faded
10-23-2007, 09:48 PM
Can I touch you like this?
Can I kiss you like that?
It was so long ago
but I'm still loving you Jaaaaack.
Flash.

UHM.

I would definitely like to see all things X-appreciated.

In the foreground--a celebration. A baseball game (and a first for a lot of the recent newbies), a breakfast scene, a potluck.

The New X-Men hanging out and X-Factor integrative but cautious. The Black Panther, Jubilee, and Ms. Marvel are honored guests. Good times, and much needed characterization for 'main' characters who've been little more than mutant soldiers.

All types of random people are there--Thornn, Alchemy, Cecilia Reyes, Tabitha Smith, Karma, Hollow/Penance, the Guthries, etc.

Rachel Grey wasn't invited though. Sorry.

In the background--a struggle for power from the Scarlet Witch, who wants to redeem herself and restore mutantkind. A struggle for her life--and she doesn't win.

Elsewhere, some X-Gene carriers are reactivated (WIND DANCER, MARROW, RADIUS, BLOB--and eventually Rictor).

Rebirth. Jean rises from her grave. Risque's reforms. Pyro's corpse full of life once again.

Then...something really thrilling and destructive to set up a new status quo (coupled with the fallout of MC).

I'd also subtlety play out the consequences of killing Wanda when they did. As they saw in House of M, interfering with her unfinished business isn't a good thing.

Karl H
10-24-2007, 02:34 AM
They make breakfast or play softball.

Family focused issue featuring the originals and the all new all differents primarily.

No Jean return, keep her dead. And it should feature Magneto.

Heck, I'd dig an issue where he and Charles sit and talk for 48 pages.

ExodusCloak
10-24-2007, 03:08 AM
Return of Jean Grey should = Issue 1000, and she should be killed off again, on the last panel of the very same issue.

#500 should be Magneto making an official global return...oh and he kills Wanda.

They make breakfast or play softball.

Family focused issue featuring the originals and the all new all differents primarily.

No Jean return, keep her dead. And it should feature Magneto.

Heck, I'd dig an issue where he and Charles sit and talk for 48 pages.

I like this better.

Pro
10-24-2007, 03:15 AM
Two words: mutant repowerment.

The Fury
10-24-2007, 03:23 AM
The X-men to disband.

Although stories continue in the books following dibanded groups, but essentially the X-men do not exist anymore.

Also, for Brubaker to not write it.

MarvelGirlBoy
10-24-2007, 04:46 AM
The Anglo-American ethnic wedding of Scott Summers and Emma Frost. No? :D

I like this idea:

The X-men to disband.

Although stories continue in the books following dibanded groups, but essentially the X-men do not exist anymore.

Also, for Brubaker to not write it.

Return of Jean Grey should = Issue 1000, and she should be killed off again, on the last panel of the very same issue.

#500 should be Magneto making an official global return...


But this is definitely what it will include.

Jean Grey coming back? Maybe without the Phoenix force, if that's possible, it could work. Doesn't mean it should be done. Give it a year. She's had her time and there are far more interesting characters.

What I want, really:

Summers family reunion - character-driven Rachel, Cable, Cyclops, Havok (Emma Frost, ...I guess Hepzibah) issue post-Vulcan. Maybe throw in some Sinister-Summers intrigue via Messiah Complex and a Jean Grey teaser.

Karl H
10-24-2007, 04:49 AM
The Anglo-American ethnic wedding of Scott Summers and Emma Frost. No? :D



You realise of course that old Frosty the Ice Queen isn't English don't you?

Mitteloss
10-24-2007, 04:56 AM
Well, I kind of went on about it obviously, I think the issues between the end of Messiah Complex and #500 will be important to #500 itself.

Uncanny X-Men #495- Professor X takes time to reflect on the fallout of Messiah Complex. He finds Magneto. They have a talk about everything that's happened during Messiah Complex and the current state mutantkind is in. The Starjammers return (without Korvus!!!) to earth.

Note: The other X-Characters are dealt with in their own books and a Messiah Complex aftermath book special.

Uncanny X-Men #496- The long awaited reunion between Magneto and Polaris occurs, Magneto, with the help of Xavier, takes Lorna through his memory of how he and Lorna's mother met... and how she died. Rachel and Havok reflect on all that has happened while they were in space and go looking for Cyclops.

Uncanny X-Men #497- Havok and Rachel re-unite with Cyclops, but they soon realise things have changed. An emotional Polaris makes up with Magneto and they promise to see eachother again. Magneto has other plans.

Uncanny X-Men #498-499-

The Acolytes are reformed under a repowered Magneto, the new Uncanny team goes on their first mission to find out what the Acolytes are up to and how they are going to use the aftermath of Messiah Complex to their advantage. The original X-Men, all just happen to stay at the mansion. It's a good old style fight between the new Uncanny team and the Acolytes.

Uncanny X-Men #500-

Jean Grey is back! But for how long? The original X-Men re-unite and go to aid the Uncanny team against Magneto. All living members of the X-Men make at least a cameo appearance.

MarvelGirlBoy
10-24-2007, 05:04 AM
You realise of course that old Frosty the Ice Queen isn't English don't you?

Yeah she's Anglo-American :p

xarathos
10-24-2007, 05:10 AM
Return of Jean Grey should = Issue 1000, and she should be killed off again, on the last panel of the very same issue.

#500 should be Magneto making an official global return...oh and he kills Wanda.



I like this better.

I don't see Mags killing his own daughter. He's not that heartless. Yeah, I'd like to see a combined vision for the future of the X-books come together.

Omega Alpha
10-24-2007, 06:48 AM
I don't see Mags killing his own daughter. He's not that heartless.

Pietro disagrees with you...

Mitsaso
10-24-2007, 06:49 AM
ISSUE #500!

The very first thing in the issue is a double splash page - JEAN RISES FROM THE GRAVE, alive and well!!

She storms into the mansion, coughing up dirt, and the very first person she sees is Iceman (who's making out in the couch with Mystique)! She grabs him by the collar and asks;
"WHERE IS SCOTT AND EMMA?? I had that weird-ass dream where I telepathically forced them to hook up with each other and want to make sure--did I really do something THAT stupid?!?!?"

Bobby explains everything to Jean as Mystique sexually harrasses him by licking his neck. He tell her that, just a couple days ago, Scott and Emma got drunk and began road-trippin' to LAS VEGAS to get married!!

OH NOES!! Jean must get to them before they get married and Emma gets pregnant on their wedding night!!!

So an epic quest begins --Jean steals the X-Jet and goes to Vegas! The ones who join her are Bobby, Hank, Warren, Mystique and Rachel!

So they're flying above USA, reminiscing the past (there you go, Brian M!), while Mystique is licking Bobby's feet under the table and Rachel keeps interrupting by saying "MOMMY!! OH MOMMY I MISSED YOU SO MUCH!!" all the time! That pissed Jean off, so she grabs Rachel and throws her outta the window. Rachel plunges into the Great Lake and eventually joins the GLI as Tippy Toe's second-in-command!

After many adventures, they arrive in Vegas, and there they split up and visit all the chapels to get to the couple before they get hitched (Scott and Emma got there with a car, so there's still a chance to prevent the unholy union!).

After many mishaps and misunderstandings (Beast gets mistaken for an Elvis Impersonator Priest, while Bobby and Mystique end up getting married themselves in the chapel they were supposed to check out!), Jean walks in Scott and Emma's wedding just as the priest says "anyone who objects to this union must speak up now, or remain silent forever", so she grabs the opportunity and OBJECTS!!!

Emma and Scott look at her shocked, and Jean walks up to them and GRABS EMMA and then....!!!

...they start making out like lesbians in heat!

"Oh, Emma, the thought that I was going to lose you to that two-timing scumbag!"
"Jean baby, I only settled for him because he reminded me of YOU!!!"

So they kiss and make up and Emma-Jean become the next prominent couple in Marvel and new Headmistresses of the Institute!!! --Scott runs off and becomes a depressed drunkard, only for GLI to save him and make him leader of their team, while the new team of Uncanny X-Men is announced:

Jean Grey
Emma Frost
Iceman
Beast
Angel
Mystique
aaaaaaaaaaaand Stacy X :D

Every second cover of Uncanny from now on are Jean and Emma in compromising lesbian innuendo poses drawn by Greg Horn.:D

Havik
10-24-2007, 06:52 AM
Uncanny X-Men #500

Apocalypse is NOT involved, hopefully he never, EVER is again. Atleast for a very, very long time (5+ years).

My issue would focus on these characters:

Cyclops ( in some new suit ), Jean Grey (Yup, she's back, how hell I dunno and is still the Phoenix), Angel, Beast, IceMan, Wolveriene, Gambit (Yes he's good again - leave him that way ), Rogue, Colossus, Storm (could either leave her in or out, personally don't care either way). And also an appearance from Cable ( He's one of my favorites afterall, I am biased I know. )

All of those characters are not the original 5 but are IMO the core group of X-men from over the years.

Issue starts out with Havok's team getting back from space. After the events of Messiah Complex all of the teams have been called to the mansion ( and most if not all of the X-Men ) to discuss what the future holds.

Que some panels with Magneto, he's found Scarlet Witch, she is still out of her mind. She is starting to manipulate Magneto. Magneto forms the Acolytes again. Her main goal is to re-power the mutants, which she is doing one by one but for w/e reason the scarlet Witch can't do it by herself, she needs something/someone to focus so that she can do it all at once. She makes Magneto get it by any means neccessary ( which those means are going to be horrible ). The Scarlet Witch's intentions are good, but she is simply out of it. She is basically controlling Magneto aganist his will (he tried to help her originally but she over-powered him). (The setup for this could of happened in precious UXM issues so we don't go overboard here ).

Magneto and the Acoyltes go for this object/person but attack on multiple fronts (There is alot of Acolytes/followers that are all unaware of the Scarlet Witch's dealings, they believe it is just Magneto leading them to freedom). The X-Men learn of this, and they must break off into their teams to handle the situation. Xavier realizes something is up and keeps the O5 + Gambit, Colossus, and Wolverine at the mansion. Xavier forbids Jean to do anytihng as he knows she is still to unstable and will probably always be. Rogue is leading her team ( Cable is back on it ). Oh I forgot, Emma is gone, she left when Scott didn't kick Jean out of the house on her return ( She got pissy b/c she thinks Scott was all over Jean. The X-men decide it's for the best ).

Polaris is contacted by Magneto who begs her to send help and tells her the situation. Xavier gives them the implicit instructions to "Stop her by any means neccessary."

The O5 + Wolverine, Colossus, and Gambit (he could be with Rogue, still making up for being a dick ) go to stop Wanda. Logan and Cyclops got close to finishing her, but of all people Magneto stopped them. He can't have his daughter be killed in front of his eyes They are screwed now , she is too powerful and she is pissed off. Xavier overhears this and tries to help them mentally, it is useless. Just inthe nick of time of all of the X-men dying Jean shoots off as the Phoenix, a large battle ensues bewteen her and Wanda. She is close to winning but Magnus interrupts Jean. Wolverine comes to and stabs Magneto and he passes out then Wanda pissed as hell goes for Logan but at the same time drops her guard and Jean using all of the Phoenix force kills her. She's dead, period. She dosent pass out or any bs. Jean awakens days later at the X-Mansion, she is no longer the Phoenix. END. no longer the Phoenix, it is dead. She used all of it's powers killing Wanda. The Phoenix is gone, f o r e v e r.

The X-men learn that Wanda powered xxx mutants, and also that Storm is pregnant with a mutant baby ( Xavier can pick it up with Cerebro afterall ). So mutants can now be born.

Havik
10-24-2007, 06:54 AM
Whew,

done.

jarrod
10-24-2007, 07:08 AM
The X-men to disband.

Although stories continue in the books following dibanded groups, but essentially the X-men do not exist anymore.

Also, for Brubaker to not write it.
WINNER!!!!!!

Lombardo!
10-24-2007, 07:21 AM
31 panels of Bishop sitting in front of the tv with a glazed look on his face as he realises what a dick he's been in recent years

32nd panel: "i think i might regrow the mullet"

'NEXT ISSUE' PAGE: Bishop in 90's costume + mullet holding up a massive Liefeld gun. 'BISHOP: TimeCop on sale March! see an angry, black, mulleted-man from the 90's-idea-of-the-future, put his massive laser-cannon to the face of all that's wrong with comics these days, and laugh with him in glory as he pulls the trigger -- and holds it down!'

series: bounces throughout time, fixing retcons and continuity errors everywhere, yet ironically sleeping with women galore, screwing up 99% of births and characters in our present.

FIN

xgeek52
10-24-2007, 07:33 AM
*leans back in chair and sighs*

i want alot from uncanny #500 but what i'd like to see is the o5...

i miss them...they were a unique group of kids who grew and evolved into the adults they are now...in a lot of ways the powers that be at marvel have done them a disservice in the name of the all mighty buck...

but hey that's my opinion...

yeah, you got the second generation -- ororo, logan and all that jazz...you got jean dead AGAIN...you got xavier doing whatever he's doing right now...you got the house of m and decimation (don't even get me started)...you got magneto (gone but not forgotten????)...you got scott and emma (like the pairing but it's still scott and jean for me)...excetera, exetera...

i could go on...

my point is all the xbooks have their roots in the school and o5...

i'd like to see them return to that, even if it's for just a little while...

Slung
10-24-2007, 08:26 AM
But this is definitely what it will include.

Jean Grey coming back? Maybe without the Phoenix force, if that's possible, it could work. Doesn't mean it should be done. Give it a year. She's had her time and there are far more interesting characters.
More interesting characters? (Says the poster with the Rachel avatar). There ARE no more interesting characters than Jean Grey. :D

My issue 500 features Jean's return. All else is secondary. All try to come up with a plot later.

Schuimend Mormel
10-24-2007, 09:02 AM
The two things I would be excited about to see in Uncanny X-Men #500 have already been mentioned above at nauseam: for me, it's the return of EITHER Magneto OR Jean that would be ideal. Not both, because each would sort of take center spotlight. If Jean is in the issue, I feel there would be 'no more room' for Magneto. But if Magneto returns, I would like to see him at the X-Men's side in that issue. I would also like a couple of flashbacks to or reflections on past issues.

Red Lotus
10-24-2007, 09:06 AM
Jean returns, but she is under the control of the Shadow King. The team tries to save her, but the only way to save her is to kill her and after Scott takes her out she gone again till Uncanny #1000.

streator
10-24-2007, 09:20 AM
magneto kills vulcan, xavier leaves again for space with lilandra in the aftermath.

polaris and havok return, rachel stays in space.

Omega Alpha
10-24-2007, 09:34 AM
Jean returns, but she is under the control of the Shadow King. The team tries to save her, but the only way to save her is to kill her and after Scott takes her out she gone again till Uncanny #1000.

If you say the Shadow King is gone until #1000 too, your idea is the best so far (except for mine, of course:D )

Nyssane
10-24-2007, 09:57 AM
I want a relaxation issue... all the X-Men groups get settled and form long-term teams (I hate how they form new teams with new writers... if you're going to change writers, MAKE them use the characters that were being used, god damn!). They'd play softball and reflect, like the good old days... and it'd be all the X-Men from all three books, since Uncanny is the original book and we'd have none of the characters if not for it. Meanwhile, have Magneto and the Acolytes also relax just before they PLAN TO DOMINATE THE WORLD, SINCE THEY GET THE BABY AFTER MESSIAH COMPLEX. I think they should take shelter in another dimension where the X-Men can't find them... Avalon's been done to death, and Genosha is over with, also. And suddenly, after all the relaxation, JEAN GREY RETURNS!!!

Omega Alpha
10-24-2007, 10:08 AM
I want a relaxation issue... all the X-Men groups get settled and form long-term teams (I hate how they form new teams with new writers... if you're going to change writers, MAKE them use the characters that were being used, god damn!)!

I don't see how the writers being forced to use characters they don't want to use or don't even like would be a good thing.

_Jayme_
10-24-2007, 10:09 AM
I remember a topic about this not too long ago. I'd like another nice Phoenix run with various artists on it. Having her return and maybe just her seeing different times in her life.

Fatguy
10-24-2007, 10:12 AM
Yea, #500 seems a good place to finally bring back Jean. Or have Magneto kill off Xavier, for good this time.

GoingGreen
10-24-2007, 10:19 AM
Jean returns without the Phoenix, and she and Polaris become best friends again. And then there's a huge, joint wedding ceremony for Scott and Jean to renew their vows, and Lorna and Alex to finally tie the knot.

And then these four become the official Uncanny team, and right after the ceremony, they must go up against Apoc. They demolish him in this stand alone issue. Xavier initiates these four, as well as the other three original 5 into a Hall of Fame.

And that's the end.

jarrod
10-24-2007, 10:20 AM
In all honestly, I think #500 is when Magnus will come center stage in the book. I think it'll also be where Uncanny/Astonishing divide the team and set up the new status quo for the X-Men.


I wouldn't hold out for Jean's return, Xaiver's death, or any sort of milestone like that.

_Jayme_
10-24-2007, 10:29 AM
In all honestly, I think #500 is when Magnus will come center stage in the book. I think it'll also be where Uncanny/Astonishing divide the team and set up the new status quo for the X-Men.


I wouldn't hold out for Jean's return, Xaiver's death, or any sort of milestone like that.

That's what Messiah Complex is for isn't it? #500 won't get here before MC ends.

Nyssane
10-24-2007, 10:29 AM
I don't see how the writers being forced to use characters they don't want to use or don't even like would be a good thing.

Because, writers change all the time and the constant swapping of characters is aggravating. Just give set characters to set teams and let the writers work with the characters on the teams. I don't see how it's difficult, regardless of how much the writers like the characters. Characters can always be turned into someone likeable.

jarrod
10-24-2007, 10:35 AM
That's what Messiah Complex is for isn't it? #500 won't get here before MC ends.
Nope, MX is setting up the line generally (ending X-Men, possibly New X-Men, setting up Cable, X-Force and possibly other books), but Magento and Astonishing won't be central until next summer.

I bet Uncanny #500 coincides with Ellis/Bianchi's debut on Second Stage, and until then, we'll just see a larger/rotating group of X-Men in Uncanny in the interim.

Magneto Rocks
10-24-2007, 10:37 AM
Completely ignore the X-Men and just have the entire issue be long conversations and reconciliation between Magneto and Xavier, Magneto and Lorna and Magneto and the Twins.

That is all.

Nyssane
10-24-2007, 10:55 AM
Completely ignore the X-Men and just have the entire issue be long conversations and reconciliation between Magneto and Xavier, Magneto and Lorna and Magneto and the Twins.

That is all.

If by twins you mean the Kleinstocks, then sounds good to me!

Otherwise, I wouldn't read it.

Joe Acro
10-24-2007, 11:31 AM
I think my ideal vision for Uncanny X-Men #500 is a retrospective. It should be filled with some action (I haven't really been following the main titles to know what could be incorporated). Overall, though, it should close dangling plots and touch a fair amount on the past. That way, in issue #501, a new story can begin. They might even be able to start fresh, as if it were a new #1.

The milestone is enough excitement. We don't the inside filled with shocking returns, in my estimation.

Brian M.
10-24-2007, 11:44 AM
I don't see how the writers being forced to use characters they don't want to use or don't even like would be a good thing.

IT'S NOT FOR THE GOD DAMN WRITERS IT'S FOR THE POSTER WRITING THE ISSUE THEY, AGAIN I SAY THEY, NOT THE FUCKING WRITERS WANT TO SEE. IT'S NOT WHAT MAKES SENSE TO YOU, IT'S NOT WHAT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO MARVEL, IT'S WHAT THE GOD DAMN POSTER WOULD WANT.

Faded
10-24-2007, 11:52 AM
IT'S NOT FOR THE GOD DAMN WRITERS IT'S FOR THE POSTER WRITING THE ISSUE THEY, AGAIN I SAY THEY, NOT THE FUCKING WRITERS WANT TO SEE. IT'S NOT WHAT MAKES SENSE TO YOU, IT'S NOT WHAT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO MARVEL, IT'S WHAT THE GOD DAMN POSTER WOULD WANT.

STFU! You're just happy because Cyclops is getting a push.

Brian M.
10-24-2007, 11:53 AM
STFU! You're just happy because Cyclops is getting a push.

You didn't see where I put Risque in my O5 revamp did you?

Faded
10-24-2007, 11:58 AM
You didn't see where I put Risque in my O5 revamp did you?
































































































:o
Okay, you win.

_Jayme_
10-24-2007, 12:31 PM
I thought there was an image coming up. I almost thought it would be the one of the giant log in the toilet again :(

Jack Flash
10-24-2007, 12:50 PM
Mitsaso's would be fun with a whimsical artist!

So basically it's a quiet downtime ish or Magneto returns or Jean Returns or Both Return. so far.

Demondaze
10-24-2007, 12:58 PM
My 500 opens with a splash page of Jean bursting out of her grave. Slowly, she walks towards the mansion in a menacing series of panels. Her eyes are ablaze with fury and a swirling aura of flames grows around her with each step. Then she trips on the root of a tree, falls and breaks her neck. The rest of the issue is a post-MC relaxation/reflection tale, focusing on the characters and how they feel about recent changes. The issue ends with a page showing Leech poking dead Jean in the eye with a branch.

I'll be happy so long as #500 does not feature the return of Jean (and if she does return, have her leave the X-Men at the end and take up a place as a powerhouse of the MU, rather than the mutant corner), does not involve Scott and Emma getting engaged (I love that pairing but... no. Just no.), has some reminiscing/nice moments on the part of the surviving O5, redeems Xavier somehow or at least does something to lessen the impact of recent stories depicting him as an asshat and ends with Magneto doing something absolutely shocking to announce to the world "Yeah betches. I'm back."

protogarrett
10-24-2007, 01:21 PM
A big reunion between the present and past members would be fun. I'd prefer it to be a character issue rather than an action issue.

That's probably not going to happen but it's what I'd like to see.

I concur. Then Sway and Maggot begin to date on the last page. Just for oddness' sake.

Charybdis4
10-24-2007, 01:35 PM
Love the idea of Jean returning & the original 5 up against Magneto, with possibly Lorna & Pietro joining in then deciding to help her father & they leave together.

Jean decides she doesn't want to stay with the X-Men & excepts an offer with the Mighty Avengers.

Oh & Rachel finally realises just how boring she is & decides to stay in space in a self imposed exile, with only Jubilee, Vulcan, Thunderbird III & Lifeguard for company.....

frog
10-24-2007, 04:07 PM
Mitsaso's would be fun with a whimsical artist!

So basically it's a quiet downtime ish or Magneto returns or Jean Returns or Both Return. so far.

Quiet downtime and reunioning win!

Funkdmonkey
10-24-2007, 04:45 PM
Refresh my memory, what issue did Jean die in...

most recently? :p

rilokyle
10-24-2007, 05:13 PM
Refresh my memory, what issue did Jean die in...

most recently? :p

LOL, I think that would be Phoenix: Endsong. And before that it was X-Men #150. LAMERZ.

Slung
10-24-2007, 05:14 PM
LOL, I think that would be Phoenix: Endsong. And before that it was X-Men #150. LAMERZ.

She didn't die in Endsong - she came back to life and then Enoch-ed her way to Heaven. Silly Boy.

jcp011c
10-24-2007, 06:16 PM
My ideal is closest to Brian M's I think.
jean has returned already, maybe dealing with that somewhere in UXM #497-499.
The original five all go on a retreat, or yeah, Harry's Hideaway, to reflect on the past adventures, etc. and how the team has grown, their personal interactions with other core members.
Being that this would be maybe a triple sized issues (speculation!) I'd have what would amount to an issue and a half of this.

The other half of the issue would be Magneto focused, as he rallies an army, goes through his reflections on his times with and against the X-Men. It ends with him declaring to his army that it is time for him to lead the mutant race towards its subjugation of humanity. (hopefully said storyline would run like an all out war, dominating the X-books if not the entire MU, for the next two years or so.)

although I guess you could intersperse the two, like at first have Mags and the O5 reflect on their initial battles, and then have them reflect on the "All new all different' team members, then later additions, to pretty much present.

Either way you'd get a restrospect of all major X-Men members, as told through the eyes of those there from the beginning.

Erik Lehnsherr
10-24-2007, 06:21 PM
Pietro disagrees with you...

Pietro is out of his mind and was drugging his daughter in Son of M. His opinion means absolutely nothing.

The two things I would be excited about to see in Uncanny X-Men #500 have already been mentioned above at nauseam: for me, it's the return of EITHER Magneto OR Jean that would be ideal. Not both, because each would sort of take center spotlight. If Jean is in the issue, I feel there would be 'no more room' for Magneto. But if Magneto returns, I would like to see him at the X-Men's side in that issue. I would also like a couple of flashbacks to or reflections on past issues.

All of this Jean Grey stuff is alot of well wishing..we know DAMN WELL that Magneto is headlining everything after Messiah Complex..it's been confirmed by Carey, Brubaker, Nick Lowe, and Axel Alonso. #500 will lead to his next big move but with his current direction and all, I doubt it's going to be very confrontational but more like him making a turn on the international scene for the better. "We have long term plans for Magneto". Uncanny #500 is in June 2008. Get ready for the return of the Master of Magnetism..just as I predicted several months ago.

atoningunifex
10-24-2007, 06:29 PM
Uncanny X-men #500

To Absent Friends......

A hush has fallen over the X-Mansion, night is closing in and Xavier sits alone, thinking. Well, as alone as a telepath can be. He's listening to bits and pieces of conversation, spying a touch on those around him, watching over his students, his children.

And, of course, there is Emma. Bitter and brittle and fully aware of Xavier's observations. But for once she doesn't sneer, she doesn't needle, she doesn't vamp. She just asks one question: Why?

Charles Xavier thinks back over his years with the X-Men. He thinks about the trials, the tribulations, the joys. He thinks about how the students have changed and how his X-Men have grown to teach him. He thinks about adventures in space with Lilandra and battles with Magneto. He ponders the changes in Storm and the redemption of Rogue. And he thinks most about the child of his heart, Scott, and the child of his hopes, Jean.

Emma asks him why and he answers her honestly and truly:

"I couldn't do nothing."

Ogrebear
10-24-2007, 06:33 PM
I'd have Hank, Bobby, Scott, Warren and Charles stood around the repaired Jean memorial just having a quiet moment to remember their fallen friend. They each tell a story about Jean (told in flashback) that's humorous and personal.

Then Erik turns up and tells his own tale of Jean & the X-Men from his pov - no fighting (except in flashback) just a personal tale.

Logan sneaks up to also say a few words. Followed by Ororo, Kurt, and James Proudstar. By this time they are being watched or surrounded by every X-Men currently active (and monitored by a few who are not- splash page of screens with appropriate enemies getting a look in).

Charles then address the crowd reminding them of the dream, why they have gone through such trials and tribulations (cue some 1-2 panel flashbacks)- its a masterful speech lasting some time but laying the ground work for #501 and beyond.

After the speech the crowd leave - some as couples e.g. Emma/Scott or with friends e.g. Hank/Bobby - no one leaves alone. Charles is left on his own with Erik looking at the statue and some final words are exchanged that while friendly hint that conflict is coming before they part.

The final page is a pic of the mansion/statue with the major dead X-Men over it (Jean front and centre) and some decent quote about honouring the fallen, but carrying on to a bright future.

frog
10-24-2007, 06:41 PM
Pietro is out of his mind and was drugging his daughter in Son of M. His opinion means absolutely nothing.



All of this Jean Grey stuff is alot of well wishing..we know DAMN WELL that Magneto is headlining everything after Messiah Complex..it's been confirmed by Carey, Brubaker, Nick Lowe, and Axel Alonso. #500 will lead to his next big move but with his current direction and all, I doubt it's going to be very confrontational but more like him making a turn on the international scene for the better. "We have long term plans for Magneto". Uncanny #500 is in June 2008. Get ready for the return of the Master of Magnetism..just as I predicted several months ago.

What is the point of coming into a thread about what people would enjoy seeing and posting this other than to be ugly?

Diablito
10-24-2007, 07:43 PM
I would like a reunion between all the X-Men ever. I want the dead X-Men brought back temporarily, and they should all have a big dinner. Soon, when al the dead X-Men have got to go and be dead, the former X-Men with other things to do leave. The current X-Men then think of their past, present, and future, and they get a new member for the team. The END!





(Not written by Brubaker please....




Mike Carey, would be good)

Slung
10-24-2007, 08:01 PM
I'd have Hank, Bobby, Scott, Warren and Charles stood around the repaired Jean memorial just having a quiet moment to remember their fallen friend. They each tell a story about Jean (told in flashback) that's humorous and personal.

Then Erik turns up and tells his own tale of Jean & the X-Men from his pov - no fighting (except in flashback) just a personal tale.

Logan sneaks up to also say a few words. Followed by Ororo, Kurt, and James Proudstar. By this time they are being watched or surrounded by every X-Men currently active (and monitored by a few who are not- splash page of screens with appropriate enemies getting a look in).

Charles then address the crowd reminding them of the dream, why they have gone through such trials and tribulations (cue some 1-2 panel flashbacks)- its a masterful speech lasting some time but laying the ground work for #501 and beyond.

After the speech the crowd leave - some as couples e.g. Emma/Scott or with friends e.g. Hank/Bobby - no one leaves alone. Charles is left on his own with Erik looking at the statue and some final words are exchanged that while friendly hint that conflict is coming before they part.

The final page is a pic of the mansion/statue with the major dead X-Men over it (Jean front and centre) and some decent quote about honouring the fallen, but carrying on to a bright future.

And then Jean comes back, right? At the end, right? *crickets chirp* Right at the end, she just comes back?? Right?

Maestro
10-24-2007, 08:13 PM
There would be a big fight between both Avengers teams and the X-Men, and afterwards they work together to defeat Magneto. Co-written by Bendis and Brubaker.

Just like Stan Lee would have wanted.

Faded
10-24-2007, 08:13 PM
I would like a reunion between all the X-Men ever. I want the dead X-Men brought back temporarily, and they should all have a big dinner. Soon, when al the dead X-Men have got to go and be dead, the former X-Men with other things to do leave. The current X-Men then think of their past, present, and future, and they get a new member for the team. The END!

Totally! Make it really bizarre and whacky, with either Chris B. or Skottie Young on art.

The smoke clears and the dead X-Men disperse but Risque remains solidified. With a smirk, she says, "hi, James".











































To continue in X-Men: RISQUE, WHERE YOOU BEEEEN YO?! #1.

rwsmith
10-24-2007, 08:14 PM
Hopefully nothing involving Jean, the Phoenix or Magneto. Way too played out.

Omega Alpha
10-24-2007, 08:20 PM
Hopefully nothing involving Jean, the Phoenix or Magneto. Way too played out.

Yeah, but Magneto is already confirmed to have his 903th big return in Uncanny #500, or the arc in which this issue is a part of. At least Jean and Phoenix won't appear.

rwsmith
10-24-2007, 08:22 PM
*yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwn!!!!!!!*

DarthCyclopsRLZ
10-24-2007, 08:24 PM
I can only cringe at how enthusiastic our very own Erik_Lensherr will be, but, hey, this one's gonna be about Mags. Most likely kicking a$$ and taking names.

Which should kinda rule, no matter what my reservations about the characters are.

Erik Lehnsherr
10-24-2007, 09:18 PM
What is the point of coming into a thread about what people would enjoy seeing and posting this other than to be ugly?

LOL. What in the WORLD are you talking about? LMAO. And considering Wolverine is in 100 different books, crossovers, and limiteds every year, I'm ROLLING at the "played out" commentary. Yeah right.

Slung
10-24-2007, 09:24 PM
Hopefully nothing involving Jean, the Phoenix or Magneto. Way too played out.

Jean is NEVER played out. She's been freaking gone from the books for some years now. How can she be possibly played out? It isn't like she is in five team books, two solos series and a zillion guest appearances like others I won't name.

DarthCyclopsRLZ
10-24-2007, 09:26 PM
We sooo need a "Wolvie Vs Jean Vs Mags" thread. ;)

Faded
10-24-2007, 09:43 PM
We sooo need a "Wolvie Vs Jean Vs Mags" thread. ;)

You know it'll be Risque.

DarthCyclopsRLZ
10-24-2007, 09:46 PM
Right. Almost forgot for a second there that you were to Risque what Mounty is to Shortpack. :D

Slung
10-24-2007, 09:46 PM
We sooo need a "Wolvie Vs Jean Vs Mags" thread. ;)

Jean and Wolverine would just start making out and then Magneto would give them both planetary strokes. But Wolverine would die and then fight for his soul in purgatory, come back to life (again and again), cut off Magneto's head (for the umpteenth time) and show up in more books. And then Magneto would be retconned into not having died (again) and come back to life for the zillionth time. Jean would still be dead because Joe Q hates her and all women who are "nice" girls. Then all the posters would complain that Jean always comes back to life.

And I would sit and wonder what everyone's smoking.

Sad but true.

Omega Alpha
10-24-2007, 09:49 PM
Jean is NEVER played out. She's been freaking gone from the books for some years now. How can she be possibly played out? It isn't like she is in five team books, two solos series and a zillion guest appearances like others I won't name.

Jean was played out on Uncanny #137.

Slung
10-24-2007, 09:51 PM
Jean was played out on Uncanny #137.

Does it hurt bad to be so wrong about so much? :)

Siddon
10-24-2007, 09:54 PM
I'd like for it just to be an issue where Bobby finally wakes up and becomes all powerful. Beats all of the X-men's enemies, shows the world what mutants can do, tells the teams to unite.

Then finally tells the world that he is retiring, and that for the whole world to know that for any crisis he can come back and end it all, but he won't because he is a hero.

And we never see him again.

DarthCyclopsRLZ
10-24-2007, 09:55 PM
And I would sit and wonder what everyone's smoking.

Sad but true.

Gotta say, not the biggest Jean fan around, but, really, you'll never me whining about her coming back too many times. For sake's, it's technically been ONE time since she didn't stick around after Endsong. :eek:

I mean, hey, ditch the Pheonix, don't haver her and Cyke stalk one another, and you won't hear me object about a comeback.

Probably should throw in a "if you don't want them back together (:D), please don't turn this into a dreamboat feminist theme". Kinda ruins the whole 'a character isn't defined by his relation (or lack thereof) with another' vibe.

(NO)
10-25-2007, 06:40 AM
The X-Men Blue Team (Gambit, Cyclops, Nightcrawler, Madrox, Polaris, Shadowcat) spend a weekend in Cancun. Hilarity ensues.

Jack Flash
10-25-2007, 07:39 AM
48 pages of Vincente and Risque in a diner. They are basically eating dinner talking about how much they love Jimmy Proudstar and Cordelia Frost respectively. and then they order a chocolate shake and break the fourth wall and say "Faded and Jack Flash, 2008 is our year, look out Mags and Wolvie."

The End

Karl H
10-25-2007, 07:41 AM
48 pages of Vincente and Risque in a diner. They are basically eating dinner talking about how much they love Jimmy Proudstar and Cordelia Frost respectively. and then they order a chocolate shake and break the fourth wall and say "Faded and Jack Flash, 2008 is our year, look out Mags and Wolvie."

The End

Not the Cece Reyes dates Melon issue?

Jack Flash
10-25-2007, 07:42 AM
Not the Cece Reyes dates Melon issue?

umm that could be the back up tale!

Karl H
10-25-2007, 07:47 AM
umm that could be the back up tale!

Yey.

Luckily I'm asexual so it would be an All ages tale.

Swashbuckler
10-25-2007, 10:23 AM
How about if Jean shows up, very injured. Basically, she lost her powers on M-Day, even though she was in the White Hot Room and the Phoenix Force didn't want a de-powered Jean as it's host so she is thrown back to the earth, literally.

rwsmith
10-25-2007, 10:43 AM
Jean is NEVER played out. She's been freaking gone from the books for some years now. How can she be possibly played out? It isn't like she is in five team books, two solos series and a zillion guest appearances like others I won't name.

Well, whether you like what they're writing or not, the writers have found new things to say about Wolverine as of late. That's something that can't be said for Jean, the Phoenix Force or Magneto.

Having said that, I can think of something new to do if they were to bring Jean back. Have the FF or someone cosmic discover her in a Phoenix cocoon/egg, and then bring it to the Illuminati. Doc Strange, Xavier and Reed Richards perform a sort of "cosmic exorcism" and expunge the Phoenix from Jean entirely. The result is a Jean Grey who is much less powerful as a TP/TK, but who is primed for a fresh start. Have her join the New Avengers, and perhaps even give her a new code name.

Keep her away from the X-men for the most part, and have her interact more with the rest of the Marvel Universe (including her friends Wolverine and Storm, who are much more involved in the MU these days).

That could be a cool approach for Jean IMO.

As for Magneto, sorry, but I've got nothin'...:(

frog
10-25-2007, 11:20 AM
LOL. What in the WORLD are you talking about? LMAO. And considering Wolverine is in 100 different books, crossovers, and limiteds every year, I'm ROLLING at the "played out" commentary. Yeah right.

You know exactly what I'm talking about.

Faded
10-25-2007, 05:11 PM
48 pages of Vincente and Risque in a diner. They are basically eating dinner talking about how much they love Jimmy Proudstar and Cordelia Frost respectively. and then they order a chocolate shake and break the fourth wall and say "Faded and Jack Flash, 2008 is our year, look out Mags and Wolvie."

The End

LOL I would be able to die in peace!

I think you got the love interests backwards though, unless your going for a very provocative love square!

Erik Lehnsherr
10-25-2007, 06:06 PM
You know exactly what I'm talking about.

Magneto in 2008
Jean Grey? Not so much and if she does, it's probably to sacrifice herself out one more time.

Michael Sean
10-25-2007, 07:17 PM
Jean Grey as Phoenix should return. She should be whole and in control and not overly powerful.

Taking away her Phoenix powers again would be lame. They just need to limit her powers.

No need to give her Phoenix powers to Rachel again, Rachel has her own Blue Phoenix Force now.

Jean needs to deal with her family's massacre, Scott and Emma, Rachel, the M'Kraan Crystal, White Hot Room, the things shes experienced in her last few stories etc.

The world had changed a lot the first time she hatched and returned. The world has changed a lot this time too due to M Day and Messiah Complex and it would be great for them to have Jean react to that.

Its time for Jean to return.

Anna
10-25-2007, 07:32 PM
Jamie Braddock makes it out of the Foursaken dimension alive, and sees a bigger threat in the making. He resurrects and repowers everyone in the Insititutes graveyard. This includes Banshee and Tag. :D

DarthCyclopsRLZ
10-25-2007, 07:34 PM
Jean Grey as Phoenix should return. She should be whole and in control and not overly powerful.

Taking away her Phoenix powers again would be lame. They just need to limit her powers.

But they *CAN'T*. That's the whole problem.

Retconning the somewhat vaguely defined nature isn't quite the same as retconning it's SHEER FIREPOWER. :D

Slung
10-26-2007, 12:15 AM
Jean Grey as Phoenix should return. She should be whole and in control and not overly powerful.

Taking away her Phoenix powers again would be lame. They just need to limit her powers.

No need to give her Phoenix powers to Rachel again, Rachel has her own Blue Phoenix Force now.

Jean needs to deal with her family's massacre, Scott and Emma, Rachel, the M'Kraan Crystal, White Hot Room, the things shes experienced in her last few stories etc.

The world had changed a lot the first time she hatched and returned. The world has changed a lot this time too due to M Day and Messiah Complex and it would be great for them to have Jean react to that.

Its time for Jean to return.
I will back this statement.

DeniseXfrost
10-26-2007, 03:03 AM
How about if Jean shows up, very injured. Basically, she lost her powers on M-Day, even though she was in the White Hot Room and the Phoenix Force didn't want a de-powered Jean as it's host so she is thrown back to the earth, literally.
Now that is worth the money.

ProfeZZor X
10-26-2007, 08:13 AM
It would be nice to have a giant sized issue of all living X-Men (see Finch's #200 cover) in a downtime issue, celebrating Xavier's birthday or something like that. Every character would have at least some kind of dialogue interaction, rather than be a background character. And it all ended with a four page spread of everyone gathered around Xavier in celebration, while he blew out the candles.

...That's what I'd love to see.

Jack Flash
10-29-2007, 07:42 AM
I don't think Jean is Played out. But I am in agreement with some of you folks, that i'd like to see her outside the X-umbrella.

I'd love for her to be on Mighty Avengers or even the FF. and for the record I want her back with Teke and Telepathy. Not with Phoenix powers.

1WEBHEAD
10-29-2007, 01:27 PM
1) Alcohol. AND LOTS OF IT!
2) Madrox and his naughty dupes
3) Those cuckoos chicks.
4) With Xavier taping the entire thing.

Peeps
10-29-2007, 02:36 PM
It would be nice to have a giant sized issue of all living X-Men (see Finch's #200 cover) in a downtime issue, celebrating Xavier's birthday or something like that. Every character would have at least some kind of dialogue interaction, rather than be a background character. And it all ended with a four page spread of everyone gathered around Xavier in celebration, while he blew out the candles.

...That's what I'd love to see.

maybe the ol softball game can be brought back eh?

steve2275
10-29-2007, 11:49 PM
play ball....

Jack Flash
01-21-2008, 03:28 PM
to fit with the changes made recently, this is my new wish for #500.

With the X-men Family in shambles, division and mistrust at a high point in thier history


Wolverine
Storm
Colossus
Nightcrawler
Rogue
Forge
Kitty

all meet at Harry's to remember their squad. Wolvie wants to disband the team. Colossus and Nightcrawler want to force Xavier and Scott to come to the table and sort out their crap. Rogue wants both of them gone if they can't get along. Storm wants them to know that she loves them, but has other obligations. Forge wants Storm to know he's happy if she's happy. She lets him know that she has regrets, but that she's following the path that fate has left for her. Kitty is dissilusioned. She's not sure she believes in the dream any more. They think of good times and over drinks with good friends and family decide that it's time to diverge from the status quo.

Kitty and Colossus take the kids and join the initiative. They are going to train them in a safer environment. Peter also pops the question.

Rogue, Nightcrawler and Forge are going to find Dazzler, Cannonball, and Iceman and create a strike force to protect those remaining mutants who don't live or allign themselves with the X-Mansion.

Storm has been offered a position with the Mighty Avengers. Wolvie has his position with the New Avengers and with X-force. Kitty and Peter are inplace at the Initiative. All will act as spies for Rogue and give her information on mutants that are in trouble and what Stark is doing.

Cyke and Emma have a fight because he knows they are deserting, and she wants him to stop them, but he believes that they have to make thier own way.

His team of Beast, Angel, Emma, Havok, Polaris and a new JV squad (Skids, Karma, Empath, Catseye, Sunspot, and Vincente!) are the primary team now that operate from the Mansion. Cable and Xavier pursue their own agenda with X-baby. Together they follow a lead about a mysterious Red Head seen in Greece.

I like the idea of Rogue as a rebellious leader. I like the idea of the remaining original members (Minus Icey) sticking with Cyke. I like the idea of a down issue with old friends and to me the X-men are the All New version. so this is my revised dream anniversary issue.

Panos_P
01-22-2008, 05:03 AM
Call me nostalgic but uncanny #500 should be like uncanny x-men #304. Having a lot of things happening in its story. From what I read Magneto is returning, so my wish might come true. I wouldn't mind if it had a wraparound cover like they used to do for the anniversary issues during the 90's and I surely wouldn't mind if Jean Grey returned.

Luck911
01-22-2008, 06:35 AM
The issue begins with X-men.They are playing a baseball game the Rookies(Gen-X, New X-men, X-force)vs The Oldies(Original X-men , Uncanny X-men, X-factor),After it shows every single x-men ever is the at mansion,We see the Summers family(Cyclops,Havok, Vulcan, Marvel Girl, Cable, Nate Grey,Phoenix,Corsair) talking to Magnus family(Magneto, Scarlet Witch, Quicksilver, Polaris).Across from them we see Mystique, Rogue, Gambit, Blink, Nightcrawler, Nocturne, AoA Sabertooth,Wolverine sitting around laughing.The X-men are eating dinner having good time and talking about old times.Then bunch of sentinels appear out of nowhere and we have a big senseless battle where the X-men appear to come out the victors, Wolverine goes to destroy the last sentinel limping on the ground when the sentinels explode with a super nuke that kills everybody.

Suddenly Cyclops wakes up from his dream and he cries,Then he says "I know what i have to do, time to make Xavier's dream a reality".Then alarms go off .All the X-men go charging to front yard.They all have shocked look when they see who is stand on the lawn.It is Jean Grey she say she "I am back".She looks at cyclops gives him a smile start to walk to him,Cyclops put out his hands to give her a hug,She walks right pass him.Kiss Wolverine.Issue ends

jarrod
01-22-2008, 07:46 AM
Quest for Magik II!

Congo Jack
01-22-2008, 09:57 AM
I'd love for Uncanny X-Men #500 to feature the original five X-Men plus Logan, Kurt, Ororo, Piotr and Kitty. I think Magneto should return, but perhaps first have him involved in conversation/argument with Xavier instead of throwing him straight into the trying-to-enslave-humans action. The return of Jean Grey will be the catalyst for the coming storylines.

Double sized and variant covers are a must.

Red Lotus
01-22-2008, 11:05 AM
A huge collection of X-men meet Cyclops and Emma at an underground location. Cyclops tells them that he called them here for one reason. He said the world needs X-men, but not for what Xavier wanted. With so few mutants in the world Xavier dream has now become irrelevant.

That the X-men new goal is one of protection. For mutants and human alike. That they all will have different roles to play. He turns to Storm and tells her that her job is to get the next generation of X-men ready for the fight ahead. As they continue to talk an alarm goes off indicating and intruder. The X-men go out and investigate when they discover Jean.

Logan says it smells like Jean but some isn't right. Jean tells them its time for war against humans and the X-men or either with them or against them. Scott ask Jean who, but before she answers Magneto comes out and says that would be me.

MasterOdin
01-22-2008, 11:15 AM
I agree with the basic concept other posters have given here. Have the X-Men gather together to hash out what their purpose is going to be for the future. Are they going to have a "superhero" team, a la the Astonishing X-Men's original concept? Is the school still necessary since there aren't that many "new" mutants anymore? Do they want to have a team that is going to be more proactive in mutant affairs (of course this will be X-Force)?

I think editorially this would be good to do in order to establish the foundation for what the X-books should be about for the next number of years.

Post-It
01-22-2008, 11:40 AM
My hope is that Emma leaves the team, the return of Rachel from space, and havok and polaris deciding to remain with the Starjammers.

Jean will eventually return but I just dont think they will use 500 to do it, its too obvious.

icareenuffforII
01-22-2008, 11:41 AM
Magneto, Jean, Jamie knocking someone else up.

Oliverhannah
01-23-2008, 12:46 PM
i believe it will be Onslaught Reborn Return!

there's explain that Bishop's future not changed and they should let kill the baby.

Lukecage
01-23-2008, 03:03 PM
A clear mandate is established for each team.
All the StarJammer X-Men return.
Magneto makes an appearance in order to move his story forward for the next year.
Emma makes a move to increase her standing with the X-Men or she reclaims her position in a New Hellfire Club. With Scott's blessing of course. Always nice to have someone on the inside.
Iceman is given a more prominent role with the X-Men.

Jack Flash
02-03-2008, 07:16 AM
Then alarms go off .All the X-men go charging to front yard.They all have shocked look when they see who is stand on the lawn.It is Jean Grey she say she "I am back".She looks at cyclops gives him a smile start to walk to him,Cyclops put out his hands to give her a hug,She walks right pass him.Kiss Wolverine.Issue ends

LOL!

I think our resident X-poster of the month would have a coronary.

mcgaffer
02-03-2008, 07:27 AM
Start of the issue, some massive Galactus level threat has thrashed the Fantastic Four, Avengers and SHIELD. This threat is going to destroy the world and all the heros are down and out. Magneto is then seen recruiting all the X-Men he can find and then throws down with this threat. The X-Men put up a spectacular fight but this thing is too much for them. The issue ends with the X-Men about to be killed, the other heros are in no state to help them when there is a blinding flash of light, Jean's back and it's rumble time.

Sentinel K
02-03-2008, 08:47 AM
Something totally new and surprising that doesn't involve Magneto or a 'surprise from the past'.

Thomas Uk
02-03-2008, 09:22 AM
A tribute to some of the X-men who have died in service over the years. Perhaps prompted by the funeral of Caliban.

(If such a thing wouldn't seem insencere and lost on a cast of characters who seem to be constantly dying and being ressurected).

rilokyle
02-03-2008, 09:23 AM
Ideally, I'd love for Havok and Polaris to be in it. So that would probably mean Vulcan and the Shi'ar Empire invading Earth or something like that.

Brian M.
02-03-2008, 09:42 AM
LOL!

I think our resident X-poster of the month would have a coronary.

Brian Smash!!!!!!!!!!!

Christopher O
02-03-2008, 09:49 AM
Brian Smash!!!!!!!!!!!
I bet you say that in bed. Poor Emily.

Brian M.
02-03-2008, 09:58 AM
I bet you say that in bed. Poor Emily.

Well she's not marrying me for my winning personality.

darksaint124
02-03-2008, 12:12 PM
Brian Smash!!!!!!!!!!!

Don't hog all the fun, leave some for me.:evilsmile

Trey
02-03-2008, 03:37 PM
Warren Ellis is writing.

Jean is back on the first page

Scott, Jean, and Emma go to the Coffee House and there they startle Grant Morrison! They order coffee (what they order?, I'm dying to know) The next 23 pages are the four of em talking, last page Magneto rips the roof off and slams Wolverine on to the sugar/equal/milk cart with one arm motion and throws Xavier's wheelchair into the cappicino machine with the other arm.

To be continued....

IRONY...
02-03-2008, 04:36 PM
The X-Mansion Cemetery has been grave robbed!

Kurt's team arrives back at the mansion to find a bunch of empty graves *tears and prayers* Synch's grave is empty. So is Banshee's. So is Risque's. Cypher's and OMG Jean's.
Jamie's Xfactor team is brought in and put in charge of investigation. Cyke is particularly devastated.

It turns out that Emplate in a fit of starvation has robbed the graves of mutants to feast on their Genes. Wanda didn't wipe out dead mutants, just the living ones. So he's been forced to dig for his supper!His mutant power has re-animated the dead X-men and brought them back to life but under his thrall. so it's X-factor and Kurt's team versus Emplate's Hellions and his reanimated Dead X-men.
so it's

Emplate
Vincente
Bulwark
Ebon
DOA
Murmur
and
Zombieesque Synch
Zombieesque Banshee
Zombieesque Risque
Zombieesque Cypher
Zombieesque Jean Grey
versus
Jamie - Angry at Cyke
Rahne - aggh dead Cypher
M - Aggh her brother and her dead mentor
Siryn - Aggh dead pop
Layla - She knows stuff
Rictor - He's hot
Kurt - Religious issues with zombies
Warpath - Dead ex-Girlfriend!
Hepzibah - aggh new BF's dead GF!
Caliban
Darwin
Skids - I *heart* Sally
Guest starring Astonishing and New X-men

So it's a Battle Royale with New X-men and Astonishing Cast jumping in on the smack down too. Emplate Templates 3 or 4 others (Karma, Hellion, Caliban, and Jamie -Emplated Dupes Galore!) His Hellions are kicking butt. Emplated Jamie alone is almost more than they can handle. All looks grim for the X-folk when....

Vincente and the Dead X-men turn on Emplate and the Hellions just as he's about to win. With the tide turning, Cyke and M take down the maniac Marius. Cyke lets loose like a man with nothing to lose and puts Emplate into a coma with the power of his blasts. With Marius out, the "Dead" X-men fall into comas. With that all the Emplated folks regain their freedom. Vincente and the rest of the Hellions are finally free!

Cyke deals with Jean's pseudo return. *tears*
Siryn deals with Banshee's pseudo return. *tears*
Rahne deals with Cypher's pseudo return. *tears*
Faded buys me a cake for Risque's pseudo return.

M is asked to stay on at the mansion to help contain Marius. Siryn chooses to stay to be near her pops. Risque and Cypher awaken from their comas. and have to deal with being woken from beyond the living.

Cyke and Xavier have a heart to heart and get back on same page. Charles is moving back to Muir to do research. Hepzibah and Caliban choose to follow Charles to Muir.

Forge is brought on as the Headmaster for the New X-men kiddos.

Cyke discusses a need to revamp the teams to better protect the mansion and the kiddos.

new Teams after the attack are revealed. Each has an 05 member as a Co-Leader with an up and Comer as the other co-leader. Cyke wants to balance the future of the X-men with the past.

Uncanny
Written by Bru and drawn by Pollina
Beast - Co-Leader
Madrox - Co-Leader
Warpath
Risque
Siryn
Darwin
M

X-men
Written by Carey and drawn by Bachalo
Iceman - Co-Leader
Cannonball - Co-Leader
Skids
Vincente
Magik
Karma
Sunspot

Astonishing X-men
Written by Ellis and drawn by Copiel
Cyke - Co-Leader
Rogue - Co-Leader
Emma Frost
Colossus
Kitty
Nightcrawler
Empath

X-Factor (same creative Team)
Angel, a Dupe of Jamie, Layla, Rahne, Cypher, Rictor along with Husk return to Mutant Town to continue X-Factor

It ends with Synch and Banshee still in comas. and you span over to Jean's bed and it's empty. *GASP!*



Banshee is dead(this is how I left him)

Domo Goddess
02-03-2008, 05:36 PM
I just want to see my favorite X-villains, but I know that won't happen.

Dizzy D
02-03-2008, 06:12 PM
Something totally new and surprising that doesn't involve Magneto or a 'surprise from the past'.

Made of Win.

Too bad they already went the GSX route before and again with the Cerebro X-Men and Jean's team in Eve of Destruction... and the mutant population for it probably isn't there anymore.

ElementalKing
02-03-2008, 08:37 PM
Starts w/ #499, Jean is the surpise on the last page. She's back.

#500 starts off with some of the core members talking about how to accept her...do they worry about Phoenix or do they believe her when she says that Phoenix is gone now, it found another host. (Keep Rachel in space and give it to her). Cyclops says he doesn't know, but right now after all that has happened, he's happy to have atleast his friend back.

Later Hank suggests that he and Scott go out to get a drink, it's been a while since they've just talked. On the way out they run into Warren and Bobby. Just as they get into Warren's car Jean comes out and asks to join them.

Driving to either A) Harry's Hideaway or B) Cafe-a-Go-Go they don't say much. Each one goes through a special memory, something that reminds them of why they are where they are.

Upon arriving they find an old, gray haired Bernard the Poet. It eases tensions and they begin to talk. It starts with a reflection of what's happened, before Messiah, after Messiah, current changes. This issue would be a jump on point. Maybe even a little hint at Scott and Jean flirtation.

After a lot of great character moments the last few pages switch to Magneto. What has been hinted at in the Morlock arc of Uncanny is finally taking place. Magneto is making his move. The O5 see him TV attacking a military base. They rush to the scene and the last page of the issue is a homage to Uncanny #1 cover.
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It's my dream issue and not your obviously so if you don't like it, I don't care.

My dream issue for Uncanny X-Men #500 would have it all. First of all, it should be a special double-sized issue. The original version would be a wrap-around cover of the X-Men lined up through the ages from the beginning to current times. And variants would be required.

Everyone would have more than just an appearance but a good amount of dialogue. It would have it all. Humor from the New X-Men, Kurt, Kitty, Lockheed and Logan, romance between Gambit and Rogue, Kitty and Peter, Alex and Lorna, Ororo and T'Challa, Scott and Emma, drama between Rachel, Kitty and Emma and Alex and Bobby, Forge comes back to the X-Men, action with Gambit engaging in a tense chase after Rogue, Mystique battling a couple of the New X-Men cast to merely pay her respects to Xavier, Sabertooth sneaking into the mansion only to get beat by the combined X-teams and the X-teams engaging in a mock battle for the only one of Hepzibah's delictable cake in honor of Professor Xavier. Some nice character moments and reminiscing on past times in X-history.

In the present in Alaska, we have Cable and the baby relaxing together but are attacked by Bishop. Suddenly, Bishop and Cable are placed in psychic stasis. Cable's mind comes face to face with the spirit of his mother, Jean. They talk and Nathan softens up saying that he misses her. Jean tells Cable to protect and nurture the child. She promises him that her time to return draws near. Jean provides Cable with a prophecy for the future. She gives Cable a hug, strengthening his telekinetic powers. Cable fades out from the picture, leaving only Jean and the child on the astral plane.

Both Jean and the baby's eyes glow orange in unison. The baby gives Jean, Scott's locket of himself and Jean, Jean takes it but disappears. Cable wakes up to find himself and the baby just like they were before the attack. Cable realizes he needs to give the baby a name. He thinks for a bit and suddenly gets the notion to name her Madelyne. Bishop looks on ready to attack but notices that his arm is no longer bionic but flesh. He looks up in the sky to see a white firebird flying away. He rubs his eyes to see only the moon. He shakes it off and ultimately decides to walk away.

Back in the current timeline, Skids is playing chess with Magneto and they talk about the future and his plans. Suddenly, Agatha Harkness appears to them. She gives Magneto the same blessing Jean's spirit gave to Cable. Agatha stays and watches Magneto who tries to push forward a piece but it the metal piece moves on its own. The Phoenix and Jean from the White Hot Room watch. Phoenix smiles, remarking that it all begins. As the Phoenix Force continues its business, Jean walks away and holds the same locket the baby gave to her and opens it to see herself and Scott in the picture. Jean gives a teary smile but frowns, saying that here comes the hard part. As she says that Scott finds the locket on his pillow, and looks at it. Meanwhile, Charles Xavier watches this all and tilts his head, saying things are about to get very interesting.

That's the story by my opinion.

ElementalKing
02-03-2008, 08:38 PM
Starts w/ #499, Jean is the surpise on the last page. She's back.

#500 starts off with some of the core members talking about how to accept her...do they worry about Phoenix or do they believe her when she says that Phoenix is gone now, it found another host. (Keep Rachel in space and give it to her). Cyclops says he doesn't know, but right now after all that has happened, he's happy to have atleast his friend back.

Later Hank suggests that he and Scott go out to get a drink, it's been a while since they've just talked. On the way out they run into Warren and Bobby. Just as they get into Warren's car Jean comes out and asks to join them.

Driving to either A) Harry's Hideaway or B) Cafe-a-Go-Go they don't say much. Each one goes through a special memory, something that reminds them of why they are where they are.

Upon arriving they find an old, gray haired Bernard the Poet. It eases tensions and they begin to talk. It starts with a reflection of what's happened, before Messiah, after Messiah, current changes. This issue would be a jump on point. Maybe even a little hint at Scott and Jean flirtation.

After a lot of great character moments the last few pages switch to Magneto. What has been hinted at in the Morlock arc of Uncanny is finally taking place. Magneto is making his move. The O5 see him TV attacking a military base. They rush to the scene and the last page of the issue is a homage to Uncanny #1 cover.
-----------

It's my dream issue and not your obviously so if you don't like it, I don't care.

My dream issue for Uncanny X-Men #500 would have it all. First of all, it should be a special double-sized issue. The original version would be a wrap-around cover of the X-Men lined up through the ages from the beginning to current times. And variants would be required.

Everyone would have more than just an appearance but a good amount of dialogue. It would have it all. Humor from the New X-Men, Kurt, Kitty, Lockheed and Logan, romance between Gambit and Rogue, Kitty and Peter, Alex and Lorna, Ororo and T'Challa, Scott and Emma, drama between Rachel, Kitty and Emma and Alex and Bobby, Forge comes back to the X-Men, action with Gambit engaging in a tense chase after Rogue, Mystique battling a couple of the New X-Men cast to merely pay her respects to Xavier, Sabertooth sneaking into the mansion only to get beat by the combined X-teams and the X-teams engaging in a mock battle for the only one of Hepzibah's delictable cake in honor of Professor Xavier. Some nice character moments and reminiscing on past times in X-history.

In the present in Alaska, we have Cable and the baby relaxing together but are attacked by Bishop. Suddenly, Bishop and Cable are placed in psychic stasis. Cable's mind comes face to face with the spirit of his mother, Jean. They talk and Nathan softens up saying that he misses her. Jean tells Cable to protect and nurture the child. She promises him that her time to return draws near. Jean provides Cable with a prophecy for the future. She gives Cable a hug, strengthening his telekinetic powers. Cable fades out from the picture, leaving only Jean and the child on the astral plane.

Both Jean and the baby's eyes glow orange in unison. The baby gives Jean, Scott's locket of himself and Jean, Jean takes it but disappears. Cable wakes up to find himself and the baby just like they were before the attack. Cable realizes he needs to give the baby a name. He thinks for a bit and suddenly gets the notion to name her Madelyne. Bishop looks on ready to attack but notices that his arm is no longer bionic but flesh. He looks up in the sky to see a white firebird flying away. He rubs his eyes to see only the moon. He shakes it off and ultimately decides to walk away.

Back in the current timeline, Skids is playing chess with Magneto and they talk about the future and his plans. Suddenly, Agatha Harkness appears to them. She gives Magneto the same blessing Jean's spirit gave to Cable. Agatha stays and watches Magneto who tries to push forward a piece but it the metal piece moves on its own. The Phoenix and Jean from the White Hot Room watch. Phoenix smiles, remarking that it all begins. As the Phoenix Force continues its business, Jean walks away and holds the same locket the baby gave to her and opens it to see herself and Scott in the picture. Jean gives a teary smile but frowns, saying that here comes the hard part. As she says that Scott finds the locket on his pillow, and looks at it. Meanwhile, Charles Xavier watches this all and tilts his head, saying things are about to get very interesting.

That's my dream Uncanny X-Men #500.

patch
02-03-2008, 09:50 PM
anything that makes it possible to have a new mutant character without it turning into some linewide crossover.

boy do i hate what HoM and decimation did to the x-universe. :(

Aljira
02-04-2008, 03:34 PM
#500

no jean. no magneto.

surge et. al. gets the uncanny book. they are now truly the "new x-men". (they have to borrow santo and the others from young x-men just for this arc...and then they get to have other members...and a more experienced leader)

80 pages including special stuff...

carey=writer. travis charest or carlos pacheco or silvestri or mc niven= pencils

variants by charest/jim lee/ madureira

the children of the vault, 30-strong, approaches the remains of the mansion. creates an new home...student left in the underground complex are held captive - cuckoos sends a emergency x-broadcast - which brings scott, emma, rogue, and surge's team to the site. 50 to wakanda - and the rest of the multitude tries to over power the government of ecuador and the surrounding countries.

the arc ends with the destruction of the ecuador master mold, death of more than half of the children of the vault, a couple of them turning into x-men, the rest living in wakanda, rogue leading and surge is deputy team leader, and the re-appearance of a diff kind of blink.

Erik Lehnsherr
02-04-2008, 04:41 PM
My dream issue for Uncanny X-Men #500 would have it all. First of all, it should be a special double-sized issue. The original version would be a wrap-around cover of the X-Men lined up through the ages from the beginning to current times. And variants would be required.

Everyone would have more than just an appearance but a good amount of dialogue. It would have it all. Humor from the New X-Men, Kurt, Kitty, Lockheed and Logan, romance between Gambit and Rogue, Kitty and Peter, Alex and Lorna, Ororo and T'Challa, Scott and Emma, drama between Rachel, Kitty and Emma and Alex and Bobby, Forge comes back to the X-Men, action with Gambit engaging in a tense chase after Rogue, Mystique battling a couple of the New X-Men cast to merely pay her respects to Xavier, Sabertooth sneaking into the mansion only to get beat by the combined X-teams and the X-teams engaging in a mock battle for the only one of Hepzibah's delictable cake in honor of Professor Xavier. Some nice character moments and reminiscing on past times in X-history.

In the present in Alaska, we have Cable and the baby relaxing together but are attacked by Bishop. Suddenly, Bishop and Cable are placed in psychic stasis. Cable's mind comes face to face with the spirit of his mother, Jean. They talk and Nathan softens up saying that he misses her. Jean tells Cable to protect and nurture the child. She promises him that her time to return draws near. Jean provides Cable with a prophecy for the future. She gives Cable a hug, strengthening his telekinetic powers. Cable fades out from the picture, leaving only Jean and the child on the astral plane.

Both Jean and the baby's eyes glow orange in unison. The baby gives Jean, Scott's locket of himself and Jean, Jean takes it but disappears. Cable wakes up to find himself and the baby just like they were before the attack. Cable realizes he needs to give the baby a name. He thinks for a bit and suddenly gets the notion to name her Madelyne. Bishop looks on ready to attack but notices that his arm is no longer bionic but flesh. He looks up in the sky to see a white firebird flying away. He rubs his eyes to see only the moon. He shakes it off and ultimately decides to walk away.

Back in the current timeline, Skids is playing chess with Magneto and they talk about the future and his plans. Suddenly, Agatha Harkness appears to them. She gives Magneto the same blessing Jean's spirit gave to Cable. Agatha stays and watches Magneto who tries to push forward a piece but it the metal piece moves on its own. The Phoenix and Jean from the White Hot Room watch. Phoenix smiles, remarking that it all begins. As the Phoenix Force continues its business, Jean walks away and holds the same locket the baby gave to her and opens it to see herself and Scott in the picture. Jean gives a teary smile but frowns, saying that here comes the hard part. As she says that Scott finds the locket on his pillow, and looks at it. Meanwhile, Charles Xavier watches this all and tilts his head, saying things are about to get very interesting.

That's the story by my opinion.

I just wanted to ask...when did Jean Grey being Cable's "mother" become the status quo? Because he really wouldn't exist without Sinister's machinations and Madelyne Pryor.

Frank
02-05-2008, 02:02 PM
Hopefully nothing involving Jean, the Phoenix or Magneto. Way too played out.


But it wouldn't be played out if the writing and drawing would be as incredible as they should be with characters acting like they should with all the emotions that those scenes would need. I don't think any X-Men fans have seen most of those characters written well since the early 90s when Chris first left. Showdown Magneto-Phoenix where everything is at stake but none of them acting like one-dimensional villains like Morrison wrote them. You have something on the line whether it's the survival of mutant kind or something else. A deep secret that is revealed. You bring in a new important character that would save the X-Men and join them. You have great action/dramatic moments for each characters for Wolvie, Prof, Cyclops, Jean, Rachel, Erik, etc...The artist would be Bary Windsor Smith so you know he would be great for all the important things as far as delivering things in great scope, at showing emotion, at having badass moments. I would trust maybe only Bary and Byrne at doing something of that importance and magnitude i'm thining. I could see heart-wrenching things. Like for instance an X-Man would get it and die at the end and would it be would Kitty since she's the most loved character of all. Kitty represent everything of what a young mutant and what was the schoold founded on. Of course it would lead to Wolverine going nuts and attempt a Thunderbird-like suicidal act of heroism after the main villain on the run(he wouldn't die, though). I could see nice moments like the X-Men gathering around at the Mansion and playing football or something at the start of the tale. Logan saying to Rachel:"I'm sorry". To having stabbed her from way back. All the things the X-Men have never said to each other would be said in that story. Like Cable having a deep conversation with Cyclops about what he means to him, etc...

Basically I would put everything that makes that Universe cool, everything that makes these characters cool. Everyone would have their moment to shine with plenty of action, dramatic moments and dialogue. Magneto and Jean would be there because it would be like a last gathering, the ultimate family reunion.

Brian M.
02-05-2008, 02:16 PM
I just wanted to ask...when did Jean Grey being Cable's "mother" become the status quo? Because he really wouldn't exist without Sinister's machinations and Madelyne Pryor.

When she helped raise him for 12 years in the future. They also bonded when Cyclops merged w/ Apoc. Maddie is mother in name only. Also Sinister had nothing to do w/ Nate. He created Maddie, thats it. The bottle of tequila and a little Marvin Gaye helped create Nathan.

Slant
02-05-2008, 02:21 PM
They also boned when Cyclops merged w/ Apoc.
I hope you mean bonded.

EDIT: Well of course you did.

Porcelain
02-05-2008, 02:23 PM
When she helped raise him for 12 years in the future. They also boned when Cyclops merged w/ Apoc. Mother in name only...well technically genetics aswell. Also Sinister had nothing to do w/ Nate. He created Maddie, thats it. The bottle of tequila and a little Marvin Gaye helped create Nathan.
Freud? :D


(Giggles appreciated)

Brian M.
02-05-2008, 02:23 PM
I hope you mean bonded.

Whoops.........

CyberHubbs
02-05-2008, 03:02 PM
Two words. And a letter.

Evil X-Babies.

protogarrett
02-05-2008, 04:32 PM
A lead in to a new, oince again Australian based X-Man team. Led by Lifegaurd. It would be like Alpha Flight, only with successful sales and people actually wanting to read it. THe roster built from forgotten X-Men.

mikeb
02-05-2008, 05:45 PM
When she helped raise him for 12 years in the future. They also bonded when Cyclops merged w/ Apoc. Maddie is mother in name only. Also Sinister had nothing to do w/ Nate. He created Maddie, thats it. The bottle of tequila and a little Marvin Gaye helped create Nathan.

Marvin Gaye? Were they listening to "Mercy,Mercy,Me" or "Let's get it on"or "Sexual Healing"?:D

Erik Lehnsherr
02-05-2008, 06:09 PM
When she helped raise him for 12 years in the future. They also bonded when Cyclops merged w/ Apoc. Maddie is mother in name only. Also Sinister had nothing to do w/ Nate. He created Maddie, thats it. The bottle of tequila and a little Marvin Gaye helped create Nathan.

Sinister is the only reason Nathan Summers exists. He made Madelyne and arranged for Scott to her at the most convenient of times. They were all just chess pieces to him in the end. Pawns. Nothing more.

Anodyne
02-09-2008, 01:15 PM
When she helped raise him for 12 years in the future. They also bonded when Cyclops merged w/ Apoc. Maddie is mother in name only.
Maddie is the mother who experienced all the risks and discomforts of pregnancy and childbirth. She's the mother who bore her son alone on the X-mansion's kitchen floor, whose husband never called to ask if she was okay.:mad: She's the mother who fought two Marauders for her baby's sake, using only human skill, courage, and a trashcan.

CaptainMarvel
02-09-2008, 01:26 PM
Maddie is the mother who experienced all the risks and discomforts of pregnancy. She's the mother who gave birth alone on the X-mansion's kitchen floor, whose husband never called to ask if she was okay. :mad: She's the mother who fought two Marauders for her baby's sake, using only human skill, courage, and a trashcan.

She used her nascent powers to fight the Marauders, actually. And if she were so interested in her baby's sake, then why didn't she save him along with herself (She says in the comic that "I saved myself and let the baby go"). Why didn't she get the X-Men to find him? Why didn't she contact Scott much sooner and tell him that the Marauders took their baby? Why didn't she use the Siege Perilous to transport herself to the baby? And if she's such a great mother, then why was she going to murder her own child? And if the baby considered her his mother, why is it that when Maddy was going to sacrifice him, he called out to Jean for help?

She gave birth to him, yes, but Jean's been more of a mother to Nathan then Maddy ever was (Of course, it isn't hard to win the "Mother of the Year" award when the only other competition attempted to murder her own child).

CaptainCanada
02-09-2008, 04:30 PM
Any guesses for who the artist will be? Choi's doing the five leading up to it, but unless he's really fast (or the issue is standalone), there'll presumably be someone else for the kickoff of the next arc. It also depends on format, I suppose; if it's like Brubaker's Daredevil #100, it could be a bunch of different artists doing segments.

Wind-Breaker
02-09-2008, 07:07 PM
Sage.

64 pages of Sage naked in a bathtub filled with Pine-Sol singing to her glasses.

With a Sage backup story and pinup gallery.

Featuring a cameo by Rem-Ram and a flashback of Mammomax looking all adorable.

with that post alone you became one of my favorite posters ;) that would be a dream issue

also, like mentioned before, a Jean comeback would be a nice surprise (with Emma/Scott still intact).

or

Deadpool making a cameo

Shadowbrat
02-09-2008, 10:05 PM
Issue #500 will have a Main Pixie story featuring Pixie writing in her Diary, with a backup Pixie & Wolverine spinoff story, followed by Pixie Pin Up Gallery featuring the hottest artists in the biz, with a bounus pixie and the Unicorn backup tale.

Phil Hunn
02-10-2008, 05:29 AM
I'd like to see the new hippy-tastic X-Men continue to spread peace & love throughout the world, giving out mind-altering drugs to their enemies instead of fighting them, and playing the sitar while entertaining the Maharishi at the mansion. I think Wolverine would be hilarious as a hippy...

"Woah, bub - the walls are melting and turning purple! You gotta try this stuff, man..."

:p

CMBMOOL
02-10-2008, 09:27 AM
I can see it more like a retelling of the first issue inwhich Cyclops tries to bring the X-men back together to follow "his verison of the dream," and while some have their doubts about Cyclops current way on leadership, others are willing to follow him if it could retrieve a little peace for all mutants. :p

Mikl C
02-10-2008, 09:32 AM
Jean BURSTS out of an EASTER EGG and burns the mansion down. And Mary Jane Watson and Firestar join her to make a team of hot red heads.

Brian M.
02-10-2008, 09:40 AM
Maddie is the mother who experienced all the risks and discomforts of pregnancy and childbirth. She's the mother who bore her son alone on the X-mansion's kitchen floor, whose husband never called to ask if she was okay.:mad: She's the mother who fought two Marauders for her baby's sake, using only human skill, courage, and a trashcan.

That's nice.

What happened when she went bat shit crazy and tried to kill him?

How'd that work out?

Brian M.
02-10-2008, 09:41 AM
Sinister is the only reason Nathan Summers exists. He made Madelyne and arranged for Scott to her at the most convenient of times. They were all just chess pieces to him in the end. Pawns. Nothing more.

Your insane.

A guy who got punked by Mystique isn't that great.
Just like Exodus who got punked by Emma and Dust. Not that great.
Also Magneto's a joke.

Anodyne
02-10-2008, 09:44 AM
She used her nascent powers to fight the Marauders, actually. And if she were so interested in her baby's sake, then why didn't she save him along with herself (She says in the comic that "I saved myself and let the baby go").
The Goblin Queen said that. It was lying. The picture in that panel showed Madelyne clasping her son in her arms as the Marauders closed in. That's a technique I've seen before in comics: the speaker lies, but the picture shows the truth. And if Maddie saved herself, why was she still in the Marauders' clutches when she woke up screaming "Where's my baby!!?" She didn't save him then because she was shot and left in a coma.
Why didn't she get the X-Men to find him?
She did. We learned in Uncanny #240 that Maddie and the X-Men had been searching via computer for the baby's kidnappers--their best lead to the baby--ever since they'd settled in Australia.
Why didn't she contact Scott much sooner and tell him that the Marauders took their baby?
She'd already tried and failed to contact Scott. Uncanny #223: "[Scott] left home. No real explanation .... No word after that, no answer when she tried to reach him." (Why didn't *someone* pick up the phone? Was wealthy Warren Worthington too cheap to employ an answering service? Or was Mr. Sinister intercepting her calls?)

Maddie had no idea where Scott was until she saw him with Jean on the computer monitor. Then she punched the screen, fell unconscious and "dreamed" that her husband stripped off her face and gave it to Jean. Then S'ym tricked her into making what she *thought* was a harmless gesture:
S'ym: "Hey, if you can't indulge your wildest fantasies in a dream, then where?"
Madelyne: "What the heck--it's only a dream, right?"
S'ym: "Wrong! There are no dreams, only different ... tastes of reality. And you've just bound yourself to mine!"
Why didn't she use the Siege Perilous to transport herself to the baby?
She couldn't be sure the X-Men would give up their own plans in order to accompany her. Going alone to face the Marauders would have been a suicide mission that did nothing to help her son. Roma approved that they all agreed on the same choice.
And if she's such a great mother, then why was she going to murder her own child? And if the baby considered her his mother, why is it that when Maddy was going to sacrifice him, he called out to Jean for help?
By that time she was under the control of the Goblin Queen. The baby reached out to the closest approximation he could find of the loving mother he remembered.

Since this thread is supposed to be about Uncanny #500, I hope 616 Scott finally apologizes to Maddie (in the flesh or in spirit). And I hope the characters stop referring to her as Jean Grey's clone and start referring to her as Scott Summers's first wife. Whatever her origin, Madelyne was a real person.

Phil Hunn
02-10-2008, 10:48 AM
Your insane.

A guy who got punked by Mystique isn't that great.
Just like Exodus who got punked by Emma and Dust. Not that great.
Also Magneto's a joke.

Messiah CompleX made a mockery of several bad guys. I wouldn't take it as a sterling example of how characters should be portrayed.

Sinister stood up to the entire original X-Factor squad by himself. He took on Cable's X-Force AND X-Man by himself. And he made Sabretooth almost wet his pants in terror. That's a far cry from the twit who managed to get "killed" by Mystique shoving him face-first into Rogue's boobs.

Exodus, meanwhile, fought the X-Men AND the Avengers while simultaneously crushing Genosha under a forcefield, killing Fabian Cortez and generally kicking butt. Also a far cry from the idiot who got fooled by Emma bloody Frost and freakin' Dust.

Magneto is far from a joke. The man's been a world leader on a par with Dr Doom and the Black Panther, a conqueror and a hero. His powers can tear people to shreds if he so chooses. He has an entire religion founded around him, for crying out loud...

HeckBoy
02-10-2008, 11:56 AM
Since I've always associated the X-Men with the school, I hope they reopen it as such. I don't really want to see the various X-teams just use the mansion as a base and that's it. But with the various X-students separated in their own titles (X-Force, Young X-Men, solo adventures...), I don't think we'll really be seeing any actual classroom time for awhile. That being said, for #500, I'd like the see all the living and reasonably connected former/current X-Men/team (which means no one-and-dones, or Mystique-type members) come back to the ruins and maybe have them do a groundbreaking to commemorate the new status quo and introduce the new teams.

ZNOP
02-10-2008, 12:44 PM
Messiah CompleX made a mockery of several bad guys. I wouldn't take it as a sterling example of how characters should be portrayed.

Sinister stood up to the entire original X-Factor squad by himself. He took on Cable's X-Force AND X-Man by himself. And he made Sabretooth almost wet his pants in terror. That's a far cry from the twit who managed to get "killed" by Mystique shoving him face-first into Rogue's boobs.

Exodus, meanwhile, fought the X-Men AND the Avengers while simultaneously crushing Genosha under a forcefield, killing Fabian Cortez and generally kicking butt. Also a far cry from the idiot who got fooled by Emma bloody Frost and freakin' Dust.

Magneto is far from a joke. The man's been a world leader on a par with Dr Doom and the Black Panther, a conqueror and a hero. His powers can tear people to shreds if he so chooses. He has an entire religion founded around him, for crying out loud...

Also, Apocalypse might not have trusted him but, he did respected Mr. Sinister.

La Fea
02-10-2008, 02:21 PM
Messiah CompleX made a mockery of several bad guys. I wouldn't take it as a sterling example of how characters should be portrayed.

Sinister stood up to the entire original X-Factor squad by himself. He took on Cable's X-Force AND X-Man by himself. And he made Sabretooth almost wet his pants in terror. That's a far cry from the twit who managed to get "killed" by Mystique shoving him face-first into Rogue's boobs.

Exodus, meanwhile, fought the X-Men AND the Avengers while simultaneously crushing Genosha under a forcefield, killing Fabian Cortez and generally kicking butt. Also a far cry from the idiot who got fooled by Emma bloody Frost and freakin' Dust.

Magneto is far from a joke. The man's been a world leader on a par with Dr Doom and the Black Panther, a conqueror and a hero. His powers can tear people to shreds if he so chooses. He has an entire religion founded around him, for crying out loud...

Messiah Complex rectified the problem of having lame villains checkmating (I refuse pwnage!) teams of heavy hitters with their pinky.

Erik Lehnsherr
02-10-2008, 03:18 PM
Messiah Complex rectified the problem of having lame villains checkmating (I refuse pwnage!) teams of heavy hitters with their pinky.

And that's why MC had some serious flaws. Mystique? Disgusting. Horrible. Comical.

Your insane.

A guy who got punked by Mystique isn't that great.
Just like Exodus who got punked by Emma and Dust. Not that great.
Also Magneto's a joke.

A joke? Without Magneto, there would be no X-Men. No record breaking sales. You wouldn't have a relevant villian to the name of the X-mythos. Magneto is bigger and more vital to the mainstream than Dr. Doom, the FF, and Iron Man put together. Now..Cyclops? A guy that meant nothing and had to wait 45 years in continuity to get a storyline SOMEWHAT geared in his direction? That's the definition of pathetic. Fake azz Captain America.

BeastieRunner
02-10-2008, 03:27 PM
A flashback about the first team to appear in the pages Uncanny. Mold it with what's currently going on around the outside and that could be a good jump on point for new readers as well.

Mr_Hellfire
02-12-2008, 11:04 AM
Have Psylocke magically reappear and become more appreciated, but not overdone and not have her in anything with Claremont for awhile.

Mmm, my thoughts are to see a look at all the ex-teams as they are now. Have Bobby, Hank, Scott, and Warren reminisce or however and then look at Kurt, Pete, Logan, Ororo together and then so-forth with all the other people who've come in over time.

La Fea
02-12-2008, 11:37 AM
And that's why MC had some serious flaws. Mystique? Disgusting. Horrible. Comical.

I think it made Exodus more accessible for future stories by humbling his abilities. If he's taking down the Avengers + the X-Men + the entire cast of Star Wars he'd probably appear far less frequently and he isn't reputable to maintain any kind of mainstream status that way.

As for Sinister? Eh, I think in design alone he was disgusting. Horrible. Comical. I'm personally glad to see him go other than the fact that there's no one else to clone the dead Marauders.

Thomas Uk
02-12-2008, 01:27 PM
I'd have Hank, Bobby, Scott, Warren and Charles stood around the repaired Jean memorial just having a quiet moment to remember their fallen friend. They each tell a story about Jean (told in flashback) that's humorous and personal.

Then Erik turns up and tells his own tale of Jean & the X-Men from his pov - no fighting (except in flashback) just a personal tale.

Logan sneaks up to also say a few words. Followed by Ororo, Kurt, and James Proudstar. By this time they are being watched or surrounded by every X-Men currently active (and monitored by a few who are not- splash page of screens with appropriate enemies getting a look in).

Charles then address the crowd reminding them of the dream, why they have gone through such trials and tribulations (cue some 1-2 panel flashbacks)- its a masterful speech lasting some time but laying the ground work for #501 and beyond.

After the speech the crowd leave - some as couples e.g. Emma/Scott or with friends e.g. Hank/Bobby - no one leaves alone. Charles is left on his own with Erik looking at the statue and some final words are exchanged that while friendly hint that conflict is coming before they part.

The final page is a pic of the mansion/statue with the major dead X-Men over it (Jean front and centre) and some decent quote about honouring the fallen, but carrying on to a bright future.

Perfect if you ask me.

Phil Hunn
02-12-2008, 03:31 PM
Have Psylocke magically reappear and become more appreciated, but not overdone and not have her in anything with Claremont for awhile.

I'd go with that.

I think it made Exodus more accessible for future stories by humbling his abilities.

There's a middle ground between "downplaying his abilities" and "being punked out by a kid made of sand", you know. And no, that doesn't include getting taken down by one single solitary plasma burst from Havok...

Jack Flash
03-11-2008, 08:28 AM
I hope it includes a re-focus of the team. And some new additions. Astonishing is the retro team.
Legacy seems to be about Charles.
I'd love for Uncanny to include some younger up and comers.

Valeria Kementari
03-11-2008, 09:57 AM
The Death of Scott Summers :D I want that again :D

_Jayme_
03-11-2008, 02:43 PM
The Death of Scott Summers :D I want that again :D

Now that it's been mentioned...sure, why not? :confused:

Or the return of The Hellfire Club in full force..I know we have The Brotherhood returning in Young X-Men, but I would like Emma to face off with members of her old clan..

I can imagine several things happening in that issue though..Who knows? Maybe it'll just be an issue looking back on things..

darknessatnoon
03-11-2008, 02:46 PM
I would like to see the untold story of Sage escaping a harem.

I would like to see a return of Doop. Maybe he's been making Hollywood sex tapes?

I want to revisit the basement of the X-mansion, particularly the bucket where they are keeping Cassandra Nova. The X-Men shouldn't just leave it lying around while they are in transition!!!

I think there should be cameo of Kitty flying through space in a hollow bullet.

That's all I can think of for now.

Flameworthy
03-11-2008, 02:50 PM
The Death of Scott Summers :D I want that again :D

I would honestly prefer the death of Alex Summers again.