Who Should Get Together and Have Kids?

[protogarrett]

So we all know what happens when Jean and Cyclops have kids. Who else should get together and have kids? (Or in case of characters like Northstar and Karma, who should they ask to donate an egg/sperm from?)

What would that kid's abilites consist of and what kind of history might they develop?

[Nyssane]

Cannonball and Poundcakes.

[Nachturne]

Dazzler and Nocturne. They can adopt Tito.

[worstblogever]

Well... nobody loves Frenzy as much as Nyssane. So they should have a kid.

Other than that... Rahne and Rictor. It won't happen, but I wish they'd end up happy together. Rahne seems the maternal type, somehow.

[RoguishGurl]

Rogue and Gambit!!! And also Julian and Laura when they grow up.

[pryde15]

hmm... I am not sure.

I kind of liked the idea of Dazzler and Cyclops but I doubt that would ever happen.

[worstblogever]

Bastion and a toaster, too.

[Beast]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v97/MasterSplinter/Banner.jpg

Of course, characters having kids will never happen in comics for the most part.

[Pach!]

LOL. Thomas Jefferson Guthrie must be the worst name ever.

[frog]

Cecilia must have picked out all of the McCoy kids' names.

[w00tmaster93]

Cable and Rachel
Cable and Jean Grey
Cyclops and Rachel
Cyclops and Cable?

[Joe Acro]

Shadowcat and Nightcrawler. Because it would be interesting.

[worstblogever]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v97/MasterSplinter/Banner.jpg

Of course, characters having kids will never happen in comics for the most part.

Huh. Guess Sam's blast field doesn't double as a jimmy-hat. He's seriously a breeder.

Although, I'd rather if he had a kid with Serafina, but she never told him.

[Beast]

Cecilia must have picked out all of the McCoy kids' names.
Hank clearly respects her heritage. :)

[Jake V]

Can I vote for NO more kids?

Nothing bores me more than superheroes doing childcare. Or producing easy hostages.

Well, superheroes getting married is slightly more boring.

[Nachturne]

LOL. Thomas Jefferson Guthrie must be the worst name ever.

Someone's forgetting Bekka Raven and Luc-Jean Olivier LeBeau. The End gave us so many wonderful things.

[CMBMOOL]

Kitty and Colossus, oh wait they're already together. :D

[worstblogever]

Someone's forgetting Bekka Raven and Luc-Jean Olivier LeBeau. The End gave us so many wonderful things.

Ugh. I bought X-Men: The End because I liked the Punisher and Hulk The End Even Marvel: The End wasn't horrid. But it took me two issues to realize I accidently bought CC writing after 1990. I figured I'd tough out the six issue mini for collector's value. But wait... it was an 18 PART EPIC. And each of those remaining sixteen issues made me wish I never became enamoured of The End books. Haven't bought any The End story since.

[Monty_Cristo]

Shortpack and Thumbelina

[Jake V]

Ugh. I bought X-Men: The End because I liked the Punisher and Hulk The End Even Marvel: The End wasn't horrid. But it took me two issues to realize I accidently bought CC writing after 1990. I figured I'd tough out the six issue mini for collector's value. But wait... it was an 18 PART EPIC. And each of those remaining sixteen issues made me wish I never became enamoured of The End books. Haven't bought any The End story since.

So true.

The single issue Punisher: The End was infinitely better than all 18 issues of X-Men's series.

[ProfeZZor X]

Since the neural inhibitors probably served a dual purpose as birth control, and the fact that she'll kill him the next time she sees him, I guess Mystique and Iceman are out of the equasion.

[RickyD410]

Well if Emma and Cyclops had a kid, I'd imagine he would have the powers to turn into a living entity made up of energy. Like how Emma can turn into Diamond, except the kid would turn into whatever Cyke's optic blast is made out of. In this state he could fly, change his shape, and deal out energy damage and physical damage, depending on how dense he was when he hit his enemy.

If Wolf Cub and Pixie had a child (when theyre much, much older, since theyre both like, 14 now) I'd imagine that she could have the ability to turn into a furry, flying demonic creature type thing. So she would look normal when she wasnt using her powers, but when she activates them, she could grow wings, fangs, claws, a tail, and would look quite evil and terrifying. In this state she would have advanced senses, agility, and strength (but not too much more strenght, just a little more than normal. She couldnt go knocking over trees ad things).

One more... How about Northstar and Dazzler. How about their daughter could absorb light, and convert it into speed and energy. So Dazzler absorbs sound and converts it into light thingys, well her daughter would absorb light and use it to get super speed, AND project those lighty thingys as well.

[Fatguy]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v97/MasterSplinter/Banner.jpg

Of course, characters having kids will never happen in comics for the most part.

Dude, I love this pic!

We need more hippie Beast!

[CyberHubbs]

Rachel and Nightcrawler.

Telekinesis, telepathy and teleportation. That is, of course, if you figure the children MUST have some kind of combination of powers from their parentage.

Red fur would be interesting.

[Demondaze]

Lockheed and Wolfsbane.

Think about it... WEREDRAGON!

[CyberHubbs]

Lockheed and Wolfsbane.

Think about it... WEREDRAGON!

Altered Beast?

[Demondaze]

Altered Beast?

Damn, that game seemed so bad in comparison to superspeedy Sonic when I got both with my Mega Drive (or Genesis, if you're not European)

[CyberHubbs]

Damn, that game seemed so bad in comparison to superspeedy Sonic when I got both with my Mega Drive (or Genesis, if you're not European)

Give it time, and they will make an updated version. Bionic Commando is already getting that very treatment. Not to derail...

[Kage Kisaragi]

Wolverine and Wolfsbane.
Daughter: She-Wolf.. and True Lycanthrope, with canius form and hybrid form, with retractable nail claws that can grow out to up to 4 inches, and a healing factor like you wouldnt believe, however wounds caused by adamantium weapons seem to take longer to heal for some reason. Professor would suggest that its some kind of mental induced retardation out of fear of her father. She'd be prone to going Berserk on full moons and at the sight of large amounts of blood. Of course she'd have insanely high senses, such as hearing and smell no matter what forms shes in. Her Hybrid form would look more like the class Hybrid forms from the Howling movies. Something like this http://www.ezthemes.com/previews/W/Werewolf.jpg

Gambit and Rogue.
Twin Boys should are just so damn studly its freakin ridiculous, so hot people hate them just because they are hot. lol, Of course they'd be so arrogant because of how sexy they are that they never get laid and both probably die virgins. Only god knows what their mutant powers would be. Maybe they touch you and absorb all your life energy and channel it out as kinetic blast.
Maybe one of them could have the power just mentioned and the other could channel his own life force as kinetic energy. However both would have incredible amounts of life energy.

David and Nori from New X-Men.
Static Shock anyone?

Colossus and Polaris.
They could have this huge son who was born with organic steel skin like his father, but his skin is magnetized so he keeps drawing all these metal jobs onto his body but instead of just being stuck there. The metal objects get absorbed into him and increase his mass/strength. The effects of this increase wear off, and he and lower on increase the strength of the magnetism so as to turn it off or increase it to very high end attraction. His skin however is always steeled up. His name would be Magneto II either that or Magnet.

Iceman and Firestar.
Gil from Street Fighter 3, enough said.

[Omega Alpha]

No one should have kids. They would end up as old as the parent as usual.

[DeniseXfrost]

^lol Solid.

[Wind-Breaker]

I don't know about good matches but...

http://i21.tinypic.com/2zxy15x.jpg

[worstblogever]

Conan O'Brien's "If they mated..." comic book style. Nice.

Although, I'd like to see the product of Bastion and the Toaster. Then have it fight Nextwave.

And a fugly Blob/Stacy X kid.

[Christopher O]

Cannonball and Iceman are about two minutes away from adopting a cute little Asian baby.

[Jack Flash]

Cannonball and Iceman are about two minutes away from adopting a cute little Asian baby.

I see Cannonball actually going through CPS. He's more down home.

[Christopher O]

I see Cannonball actually going through CPS. He's more down home.
That's a good point. Well, they're two minutes away from adopting an ugly little white baby.

[ibrakeforchinwe]

Dazzler and Warren, Psylocke and Beast, Rachel and Red Lotus or Korvus, Lorna and Havok of course....Vulcan and Deathbird? Scalphunter and Arclight, Brian Braddock and Meggan(if she ever comes back)

[jarrod]

Jean and... um... herself. ;)

[worstblogever]

Jean and... um... herself. ;)

Jean buds out a new kid, like a yeast?

[steve2275]

Someone's forgetting Bekka Raven The End gave us so many wonderful things.
i like that name

[protogarrett]

Dead-Girl and Cannonball = Rocket powered zombie baby = totally awesome

[Beast]

Jean and... um... herself. ;)
Wouldn't that technically be Rachel. With the whole 'Daughter of Jean and the Phoenix Force' thing? :D

[Saberdude]

Sabretooth and X-23
Wolverine and X-23
Maverick and Psylock
Bishop and Rogue

[Omega Alpha]

Wouldn't that technically be Rachel. With the whole 'Daughter of Jean and the Phoenix Force' thing? :D

In Claremont's dreams, yes, not in canon though.

Sabretooth and X-23
Wolverine and X-23

So, we would have a Sabretooth, Wolverine and X-23 threesome? Argh! And Beast, don't even think about posting that picture.

[ZNOP]

Jean and... um... herself. ;)

Not funny:rolleyes:

Wouldn't that technically be Rachel. With the whole 'Daughter of Jean and the Phoenix Force' thing? :D

No! That was always fan-fic. It has never been proven and has yet to be.

[Omega Alpha]

Not funny:rolleyes:

It kind of is. Maybe she and Maddie could become a lesbian couple in the WHR? :D

[ZNOP]

It kind of is. Maybe she and Maddie could become a lesbian couple in the WHR? :D

O'k that's funny:D

[jmc247]

Wolverine and X-23


Having a baby with a clone of yourself? That would be the moral equivalent of Magneto having a baby with Lorna. Which is a plotline that has actually been done by fan fiction writers.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f132/jmc247/Genosha_1_Cover_by_genekelly.jpg

[Omega Alpha]

Having a baby with a clone of yourself? That would be the moral equivalent of Magneto having a baby with Lorna. Which is a plotline that has actually been done by fan fiction writers.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f132/jmc247/Genosha_1_Cover_by_genekelly.jpg

And not only fan fiction writers, you know how Mags family is...

[Nachturne]

Honestly which however ridiculous pairing HASN'T had a kid in fan fiction??

[Nyssane]

Honestly which however ridiculous pairing HASN'T had a kid in fan fiction??

Wolverine and Thumbelina. :(

[Nachturne]

Wolverine and Thumbelina. :(

You're just not looking hard enough ;)

[ZNOP]

Having a baby with a clone of yourself? That would be the moral equivalent of Magneto having a baby with Lorna. Which is a plotline that has actually been done by fan fiction writers.

But, hasn't it been proven that Lorna is not the daugther of Magneto? B.T.W. I, wish she was -- but not for the aformentioned reason.

[EC1231]

Cable and Rachel
Cable and Jean Grey
Cyclops and Rachel
Cyclops and Cable?

Been reading too many fanfic pairings huh?

[jmc247]

But, hasn't it been proven that Lorna is not the daugther of Magneto? B.T.W. I, wish she was -- but not for the aformentioned reason.

Read Lorna's entry at Marvel.com

http://www.marvel.com/universe/Polaris

Better yet I will make it easier for you.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f132/jmc247/img016.jpg

[jarrod]

In Claremont's dreams, yes, not in canon though.
Nope, in stated canon we only have Ray being entirely unique throughout the mutiverse (proven on multiple occasions), having Scott being incapable of genetically tracking her (which would be an impossibility according to the processing and technology used if he was her father) and having Moira pinpoint an inconsistancy in her DNA after thorough examination. Then again, we also have Sinister quickly referring to her Summers DNA and pinpointing the dimensional divergence as well, so eh... who knows.

I still like the notion that she's actually Logan's daughter more personally... makes that scene in Millar's Wolverine run all the more meaty. :D


It kind of is. Maybe she and Maddie could become a lesbian couple in the WHR? :D

No lie... I'd totally f my own clone too. :D

[Omega Alpha]

Nope, in stated canon we only have Ray being entirely unique throughout the mutiverse (proven on multiple occasions), having Scott being incapable of genetically tracking her (which would be an impossibility according to the processing and technology used if he was her father) and having Moira pinpoint an inconsistancy in her DNA after thorough examination. Then again, we also have Sinister quickly referring to her Summers DNA and pinpointing the dimensional divergence as well, so eh... who knows.

I can point you evidence that Wolverine is not a mutant in Claremont's early Uncanny, so I'm assuming he's a wolf turned human, like he intended? And IIRC Rachel is with Nathan in the same issue Scott tries to find her and doesn't, so that would mean he's not his father either:rolleyes: . And in anyway she had the freakin' Phoenix Force and was a Hound, so she would know how to escape.

But, back on topic, if there's a couple that needs to have children is Psylocke and Captain Britain. They are not genetically connected anymore, so, it would be all legal. :D

[jarrod]

I can point you evidence that Wolverine is not a mutant in Claremont's early Uncanny, so I'm assuming he's a wolf turned human, like he intended?
There's evidence towards those planned origins, but not in Logan not being a mutant specifically that I can recall.


And IIRC Rachel is with Nathan in the same issue Scott tries to find her and doesn't, so that would mean he's not his father either:rolleyes: .
Minor aside, but Ahab wasn't aware of Nathan and wasn't forcing Scott to track him. Indeed, Scott never tried tracking Nathan either in the story. For someone being so particular about explicit on page evidence, I think you'd be more careful than to make this sort of sweeping assumption. ;)


And in anyway she had the freakin' Phoenix Force and was a Hound, so she would know how to escape.
It'd be impossible to reconcile with the process and tech used according to Ahab, again stated on panel... maybe he's wrong, but it's suggestive as to Rachel's real parentage at least.

The only real explanation surmising than both the Ahab and Sinister evidence is true, is that either Alex or Vulcan are Rachel's real bio-daddy then... or maybe even granpappy Corasir! :eek:


But, back on topic, if there's a couple that needs to have children is Psylocke and Captain Britain. They are not genetically connected anymore, so, it would be all legal. :D
Nope, they still share DNA. Jamie rebuilt Betts ground up, she's their sister fully now, even with the asian face and skin.

Even with the conflicted, convoluted, illogical, illconcieved body swap though, Spiral suppossedly mixed Betsy and Kwannon's genetics and personas... it wasn't just a "sawp" per se, and Betsy was still genetically related to Brian and Jamie.

[worstblogever]

Honestly which however ridiculous pairing HASN'T had a kid in fan fiction??

Um... Black Tom and Juggernaut?

Wait, I checked. I found one where Cain knocked up Cassidy. It was still a better read than X-Men: The End, though.

[The Cool Thatguy]

Um... Black Tom and Juggernaut?

Wait, I checked. I found one where Cain knocked up Cassidy. It was still a better read than X-Men: The End, though.

You realize, for us to accept that joke means that we'd also recognize that you read both stories willingly, right? ;)

[Omega Alpha]

There's evidence towards those planned origins, but not in Logan not being a mutant specifically that I can recall.

Yes, there is. In Uncanny #98, someone says to Lang that Wolverine's reading were odd and didn't seemed like those of a mutant, or something similar.



Minor aside, but Ahab wasn't aware of Nathan and wasn't forcing Scott to track him. Indeed, Scott never tried tracking Nathan either in the story. For someone being so particular about explicit on page evidence, I think you'd be more careful than to make this sort of sweeping assumption. ;)


Nathan was a mutant who had his DNA, that should be enough to track him.


It'd be impossible to reconcile with the process and tech used according to Ahab, again stated on panel... maybe he's wrong, but it's suggestive as to Rachel's real parentage at least.

When you have someone with the Phoenix Force involved and who was a tracker, what Ahab says or don't say is irrelevant.



The only real explanation surmising than both the Ahab and Sinister evidence is true, is that either Alex or Vulcan are Rachel's real bio-daddy then... or maybe even granpappy Corasir! :eek:

No, the explanation is that Claremont's plans are irrelevant



Nope, they still share DNA. Jamie rebuilt Betts ground up, she's their sister fully now, even with the asian face and skin.

Even with the conflicted, convoluted, illogical, illconcieved body swap though, Spiral suppossedly mixed Betsy and Kwannon's genetics and personas... it wasn't just a "sawp" per se, and Betsy was still genetically related to Brian and Jamie.

Who cares? They should bang each other anyway! :D

[worstblogever]

You realize, for us to accept that joke means that we'd also recognize that you read both stories willingly, right? ;)

Indeed. Let it not be said that I've gained great practice and seeing and reading things that would make some men tear their eyes out. I'm delightfully jaded that way.

[jmc247]

And not only fan fiction writers, you know how Mags family is...

Of course, but Marvel has kept the Wanda/Pietro, Magneto/Wanda, Magneto/Lorna stuff in the subtle and not so subtle implied realm.

Fanfic writers are a very different story.

[Fatguy]

Wolverine and Wolfsbane.
Daughter: She-Wolf.. and True Lycanthrope, with canius form and hybrid form, with retractable nail claws that can grow out to up to 4 inches, and a healing factor like you wouldnt believe, however wounds caused by adamantium weapons seem to take longer to heal for some reason. Professor would suggest that its some kind of mental induced retardation out of fear of her father. She'd be prone to going Berserk on full moons and at the sight of large amounts of blood. Of course she'd have insanely high senses, such as hearing and smell no matter what forms shes in. Her Hybrid form would look more like the class Hybrid forms from the Howling movies. Something like this http://www.ezthemes.com/previews/W/Werewolf.jpg



That is the most porn star werewolf I have ever seen.

[jarrod]

Yes, there is. In Uncanny #98, someone says to Lang that Wolverine's reading were odd and didn't seemed like those of a mutant, or something similar.
Sorry then, I was off. Though that evidence (which wasn;t exactly too concrete anyway mind you) has been later disproven at least on page, same can't be said of the Ahab incident, Moira's notes or the "unique" angle.


Nathan was a mutant who had his DNA, that should be enough to track him.
Should be maybe, but it didn't happen. So it doesn't in any way invaliadate Scott's inability to track Rachel. Scott lacking any free will to even suggest the option either makes this oversight even plausible from the story's perspective too, besides which, Sue locked in on Franklin immediately (making Scott's potential further tracking needless). Even if Ahab was aware of Nate, he already had them tracked.


When you have someone with the Phoenix Force involved and who was a tracker, what Ahab says or don't say is irrelevant.
We can explain away the Sinister evidence as well, hell through interpretation we can argue things in either direction pretty easily. That's not the point, we were talking about things explictly in canon... this isn't a no-prize contest. ;)


No, the explanation is that Claremont's plans are irrelevant
But the evidence against Scott's paternity left behind hasn't been explained or disproven on panel. The story's still unresolved then... as of now, everyone thinks Rachel is Scott's daughter (or at least another Scott's daughter) but it hasn't been proven.


Who cares? They should bang each other anyway! :D
Well, another Brian tried at least... ended up pretty messy. :D

[kate-pryde]

But the evidence against Scott's paternity left behind hasn't been explained or disproven on panel. The story's still unresolved then... as of now, everyone thinks Rachel is Scott's daughter (or at least another Scott's daughter) but it hasn't been proven.

Sinister proved that Scott's Rachel father. End of story.

Claremont was going some where (stupid) with that, and it was corrected. It's the same with the silly Ahab is Cable reference from the same issue. It's not true, it's one sentence that's been blown out of proportion.

Besides, it's a moot point anyways. Scott is Rachel's father whether he was the sperm donor or not. There's far more to being a father than providing genetic material to create a baby. As far as Rachel is concerned, Scott (of Earth-811) is her father and the man who raised her.

[Agent_Torpor]

Caliban and Kitty would make some nice crotchfruit.

[jarrod]

Sinister proved that Scott's Rachel father. End of story.
Not exactly, he just proved she was a Summers. All that proves is that Jean-811 kept it in the family. ;)


Claremont was going some where (stupid) with that, and it was corrected. It's the same with the silly Ahab is Cable reference from the same issue. It's not true, it's one sentence that's been blown out of proportion.
It's damning evidence towards Scott's parentage... not quite like the throwaway Cable/Ahab sentence. All that might prove with the later given canon, is that Nate had a beer with Rory once upon a time. :/


Besides, it's a moot point anyways. Scott is Rachel's father whether he was the sperm donor or not. There's far more to being a father than providing genetic material to create a baby. As far as Rachel is concerned, Scott (of Earth-811) is her father and the man who raised her.
Agreed on that count, though I still think a "daddy Logan" revelation could be fun for all involved. :D

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Madrox and Cyke and they should adopt. Hell, make that adopt one of the babies Logan can't be bothered to remember as of now.

And yes, this is me poking fun at the "OMG, Madrox the roxor and Cyke the suxor" thingy.

[slugzilla]

Rogue & Iceman. Hopefully someday they'll get together in the 616 universe....

[Omega Alpha]

Not exactly, he just proved she was a Summers. All that proves is that Jean-811 kept it in the family. ;)


Now you're just denying for the sake of denying; the test is more than enough to prove Scott is the father. If Sinister had outright said Scott's name you would be saying he was wrong or Rachel changed her DNA or something.

[jarrod]

Now you're just denying for the sake of denying; the test is more than enough to prove Scott is the father. If Sinister had outright said Scott's name you would be saying he was wrong or Rachel changed her DNA or something.
No, I'd be saying Sinister proved Scott's parentage on panel. Unfortunately, that's not what he did....

[Diablito]

Nightcrawler and Shadowcat should have a child. He wouldn't need to be afraid of teleporting into solids because he could just go through them. This would cause him to be more risk-taking than Nightcralwer. He would also be very athletic, and smart. And he would be called... uh, Nightcat? Shadowcrawler? Freddy?:confused:

[Monty_Cristo]

Nightcrawler and Shadowcat should have a child. He wouldn't need to be afraid of teleporting into solids because he could just go through them. This would cause him to be more risk-taking than Nightcralwer. He would also be very athletic, and smart. And he would be called... uh, Nightcat? Shadowcrawler? Freddy?:confused:

Shadowcrawler's an interesting name. or Nightstalker maybe. :)

[Joe Acro]

Nightcrawler and Shadowcat should have a child. He wouldn't need to be afraid of teleporting into solids because he could just go through them. This would cause him to be more risk-taking than Nightcralwer. He would also be very athletic, and smart. And he would be called... uh, Nightcat? Shadowcrawler? Freddy?:confused:I'm glad I'm not alone in thinking they should get together.

Would they're powers both manifest in the kid? That'd be cool, but I don't think we have a precedent. And mightn't teleporting loose atoms be hazardous?

Shadowcrawler's an interesting name. or Nightstalker maybe. :)I don't know, the last Night Stalker ended up dead in a tombstone.

How about Night Shadow?

[Nachturne]

Nightcrawler and the Scarlet Witch <3

[Arilou]

Nightcrawler and the Scarlet Witch <3

You know it.

[ZNOP]

Nope, in stated canon we only have Ray being entirely unique throughout the mutiverse (proven on multiple occasions), having Scott being incapable of genetically tracking her (which would be an impossibility according to the processing and technology used if he was her father) and having Moira pinpoint an inconsistancy in her DNA after thorough examination. Then again, we also have Sinister quickly referring to her Summers DNA and pinpointing the dimensional divergence as well, so eh... who knows.

Being that this is my favorite debate I have to ask... If Rachel, while in her proper timeline insists that her parents are/were indeed Jean and Scott why do we even question it? I mean. Fact. No one ever challenges or the fact that Jean is her mother. In-fact, the debate has always been about Scott being her father. Now I, can't remember clearly what Moria said about Rachel's DNA but, I can say -- Ahab was never aware of Rachel's affinity to the "Phoenix Force," which She could only have gotten through birth. (Jean, who by the way died in Rachel's timeline via nuke.) And, Mr. Sinister went all out -- after Jean just to get her DNA one way or another... Obviously, he knew something worth knowing about mother and daughter. (The adventures of Phoenix and Cyclops, Part 1 & 2.) But, please tell me exactly what Moria discovered about Rachel? And, What did Mr. Sinister discover? Was either of said discoveries ever mentioned after that? I sure can't remember if it was... And, I live for Jean and Rachel.

Oh, yea. What about Frenzy and Bishop?

[Kage Kisaragi]

Xavier and Emma Frost.. Next Phoenix?

[Erik Lehnsherr]

Sinister should bring Jean Grey back, make her loyal, and get her pregnant. Instant classic story along the lines of The Phoenix Saga and Inferno.

[rilokyle]

Lorna and Alex. DUH!

Oh, and like that Mr. Sinister/Jean story idea Erik_Lensherr.

[Omega Alpha]

Sinister should bring Jean Grey back, make her loyal, and get her pregnant. Instant classic story along the lines of The Phoenix Saga and Inferno.

Nothing gives more material to classic stories as the villain raping the female hero and make her pregnant. Now you just have to make this baby born after a 24 hours pregnancy, be the villain himself, who will grow to his real age in hours, and have the father/son marry the female hero and you've got yourself a classic.

[Erik Lehnsherr]

Lorna and Alex. DUH!

Oh, and like that Mr. Sinister/Jean story idea Erik_Lensherr.


Hell, it could even be more complicated. We, the readers would know that she was loyal to Sinister and got pregnant by him, while she returns to the X-Mansion, seduces Cyclops, and passes the baby off as his. Then you get him emotionally attached to Jean and the baby only for her to turn on him during a heated moment of needing her trust and her revealing that Sinister is the father. It would be the greatest X-screwjob of all time.:evilsmile

[Monty_Cristo]

Nothing gives more material to classic stories as the villain raping the female hero and make her pregnant. Now you just have to make this baby born after a 24 hours pregnancy, be the villain himself, who will grow to his real age in hours, and have the father/son marry the female hero and you've got yourself a classic.

Freud wouldn't even touch that one.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Freud wouldn't even touch that one.

Depends. Would Sins wield a sword at some point or not?

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

It would be the greatest X-screwjob of all time.:evilsmile

Most pointless too.

Why would someone packing as much punch as Jean even need to...?

Kinda funny idea, though. Oh well.

[jarrod]

Being that this is my favorite debate I have to ask... If Rachel, while in her proper timeline insists that her parents are/were indeed Jean and Scott why do we even question it? I mean. Fact. No one ever challenges or the fact that Jean is her mother. In-fact, the debate has always been about Scott being her father. Now I, can't remember clearly what Moria said about Rachel's DNA but, I can say -- Ahab was never aware of Rachel's affinity to the "Phoenix Force," which She could only have gotten through birth. (Jean, who by the way died in Rachel's timeline via nuke.) And, Mr. Sinister went all out -- after Jean just to get her DNA one way or another... Obviously, he knew something worth knowing about mother and daughter. (The adventures of Phoenix and Cyclops, Part 1 & 2.) But, please tell me exactly what Moria discovered about Rachel? And, What did Mr. Sinister discover? Was either of said discoveries ever mentioned after that? I sure can't remember if it was... And, I live for Jean and Rachel.
I don't think Jean's parentage has ever been in dispute for multiple reasons (Phoenix genetic heritage, shared looks, harder to "fake" the mother, etc). It was never a plot point at least, unlike Scott's parentage.

What Moira discovered was never fleshed out, she just discovered an "abnormaity" after doing thorough examinations of the gene structures and makeups of Excalibur (which had just recently formed as a team). It was of great enough concern though that she and Callisto were traveling to London to meet with Excalibur about it. Claremont planned for it to be Rachel's DNA being "different" or "inhuman" as she was actually the Phoenix... not an Omega elevated mutant, but the Force given humanity, it's only child. He intended the Jean/Rachel/Phoneix dynamic to echo the holy trinity in a sense, setting up Rachel as something of a savior figure. As such, Scott wouldn't have been her genetic father and it'd explain her (later established) uniqueness throughout the multiverse (confirmed in Excalibur during the Cross-time Caper and again recently in Uncanny X-Men during HOM) and innate (and somewhat abnormal) connection to the Phoenix.

Sinister analyzed a sample of Rachel's DNA (gotten from Siena Blaze, who scratched her like a b****!) and after seconds claimed to have found where the "Summers line" deviated in Earth-811 versus Earth-616. He didn't affirm Scott's partenage though, just that Rachel was indeed a Summers genetically.... which certainly makes the former more likely, but not confirmed, especially with past evidence to the contrary (ie: the Ahab/hound incident).

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Sinister proved that Scott's Rachel father. End of story.

Please, give me the dialog of said issue. I must know:D

Thanks alot.

ooops... Nevermind.