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Nyssane
10-20-2007, 03:32 PM
With Ultimate Apocalypse rising (but plz stay dead in 616 kthx), why not reflect on his Horsemen? What is everyone's favorite grouping of the Horsemen?

Mine, obviously, is the original... Apocalypse got it right the first time, thank you. They were comprised of individual, interesting characters with sympathetic backstories, which makes them much better villains than say, Gambit or Sunfire. And don't even get me started on Deathbird as a Horseman. I just wish Apocalypse would get a clue and realize nobody is going to serve him as well as the original War and Famine did. Hell, I'm sure he could ressurrect Pestilence from the dead... all he'd need to do is find a suitable Death and wham! Total world domination.

I think Gauntlet would be a hot Death.

Toboe
10-20-2007, 03:40 PM
I loved the X-Men: Evolution horsemen, since the were basically the X-Men/Brotherhood leaders and some of the most powerful characters, leaving the rest on a tough and interesting situation. Besides, it's the only time where I could take Apocalypse seriously.

Nyssane
10-20-2007, 03:41 PM
I loved the X-Men: Evolution horsemen, since the were basically the X-Men/Brotherhood leaders and some of the most powerful characters, leaving the rest on a tough and interesting situation. Besides, it's the only time where I could take Apocalypse seriously.

No way, because you knew all of those characters were going to go back to their normal selves after the episodes. What Apocalypse needs most is a permanent group of Horsemen... I'm so sick of them hyping up Apocalypse's return by having "SHOCKING NEW HORSEMEN", when instead we get fuggin' Gazer and Polaris.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v231/ursula_boi/Comic%20Book%20Stuff/Horsemen%20of%20Apocalypse/uncxmen294_001.jpg
Hott.

Pach!
10-20-2007, 03:43 PM
I loved the Evolution horsemen! It was so cool.

Faded
10-20-2007, 03:43 PM
Do you got pics of the Mutant X horsemen, Nyssy?

Anyway, I recently watched the last episode arc of Evo since everyone said it was awesome, and I actually wasn't impressed. It paled in comparison to season 3 IMO.

Nyssane
10-20-2007, 03:44 PM
Do you got pics of the Mutant X horsemen, Nyssy?

Yes, somewhere... lemme look

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v231/ursula_boi/Comic%20Book%20Stuff/Horsemen%20of%20Apocalypse/MutantXHorsemen01.jpg

War was the only interesting one, in all honesty... I don't think Famine was Autumn Rolfson because this one has boobies. War was definitely Kieros, though... as he looked IDENTICAL to him in one of the annuals:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v231/ursula_boi/Comic%20Book%20Stuff/Horsemen%20of%20Apocalypse/MutantXWar.jpg

Gene M.
10-20-2007, 03:54 PM
The originals were freakin' awesome and every other version after them pretty much stunk like old butthole. I liked Gazer, though.

Fatguy
10-20-2007, 04:05 PM
The originals were freakin' awesome and every other version after them pretty much stunk like old butthole. I liked Gazer, though.

Agreed, I loved the original 4. Apocolypse twisting Angel into Archangel was an interesting plot point too, now they feel like they ALWAYS have to add an X-Men and its lost its appeal.

Faded
10-20-2007, 04:10 PM
No way, because you knew all of those characters were going to go back to their normal selves after the episodes. What Apocalypse needs most is a permanent group of Horsemen... I'm so sick of them hyping up Apocalypse's return by having "SHOCKING NEW HORSEMEN", when instead we get fuggin' Gazer and Polaris.

One of the reasons I liked Milligan's Horsemen is that it at least lead to two former X-Men actually being villains--and doing rather well at it. Too bad it did absolutely nothing for Po' though, ya know? you can tie it in a knot, you can tie it in a bow.

But for all reasons that matter, I think nothing beats the originals. Its not really a lineup that needs to change constantly (though Plague did die, like other groups and teams.

And I, too, liked Gazer. IN SIZE 6 FONT.

Not 7, though. Nuh uh.

EDIT: LOL someone loves all of the horsemen, and at the same time none of them!

w00tmaster93
10-20-2007, 04:11 PM
I liked the evolution one because they were the teenager's leaders, and the team barely knew how to fight without them. I didn't like the fact that the rode on pink neon glowing robot horses though.

Canemacar
10-20-2007, 04:17 PM
One of the reasons I liked Milligan's Horsemen is that it at least lead to two former X-Men actually being villains--and doing rather well at it.

Did we read the same story? Each got taken out by a single hit before they could do anything substantial. I guess Sunfire made people hungry, if you want to count that.....

Nyssane
10-20-2007, 04:20 PM
I'm in such a Horsemanny mood!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v231/ursula_boi/Comic%20Book%20Stuff/Horsemen%20of%20Apocalypse/xfactor21_001.jpg

Famine was my favorite overall of the originals, because she got to lay waste to America's crop-circle and battle Cap (albeit the issue made her seem much creepier than she is). I loved that she was an anorexic character (the first ever?) and very androgynous in appearance... and I loved her when she confronted Iceman in the Fall of the Mutants and asked why he is so easy on the humans when they'd rather see them dead.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v231/ursula_boi/Comic%20Book%20Stuff/Horsemen%20of%20Apocalypse/capamerica339_003.jpg

War was also extremely awesome and I loved that he got closure to his character. If he never served with the Horsemen again, I'd be okay... but he's also really great as a Horseman. The issue where Archangel returns to him and gives him mobility again was so sweet, I loved it. I also loved how he and Famine hated each other at first (her calling him fat, him calling her an ugly skeleton girl), but they learned to "ride as one."

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v231/ursula_boi/Comic%20Book%20Stuff/Horsemen%20of%20Apocalypse/fallmutants_006.jpg

Pestilence's only claim to fame was being extremely fabulous in the animated series... she was the only Horseman to get that much spotlight. And when Archangel grabbed her after the X-Men defeated her? AWW, Death x Pestilence OTP. I remember being very fond of her when I was a kid. Too bad she was so ugly in the comics... but I did like the scene in Power Pack (the Fall of the Mutants tie in-- X-Factor's issue where Pesty died was too brief) where they were all sad because she died, but Jean's like "she wanted to die!" LAWL.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v231/ursula_boi/Comic%20Book%20Stuff/Horsemen%20of%20Apocalypse/CtA_08.jpg

I liked Caliban as a horseman, too.. but god damn if he's going to be a Horseman, KEEP HIM AS ONE. STOP TURNING HIM BACK.

Pach!
10-20-2007, 04:24 PM
My fave Horsemen:
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u60/losequismen/51_ascension1_067.jpg
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u60/losequismen/51_ascension1_066.jpg

DDM
10-20-2007, 04:55 PM
The only Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse are the original ones:

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/97452433904.19.GIF
http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/97452433904.24.GIF

All the others are just pathetic shadows of the concept.

It would have more sense for Apocalypse to recruit new mutants for Death & Pestilence since Warren turned back to himself & rejoined X-Factor whereas Plague died in battle.

Faded
10-20-2007, 04:57 PM
Did we read the same story? Each got taken out by a single hit before they could do anything substantial. I guess Sunfire made people hungry, if you want to count that.....

Uh no...I'm talking about how both Sunfire and Gambit are Marauders now.

Canemacar
10-20-2007, 05:03 PM
Uh no...I'm talking about how both Sunfire and Gambit are Marauders now.

Ok, that I can understand even if they haven't done jack yet.

Kyle R
10-20-2007, 06:24 PM
Personally I liked the Age of Apocolypse crew. Especially Sinister and Holocaust. I will admit that Abyss was a bit lame, but coming up with characters to represent the concept of Famine seems like it would be a difficult task.

w00tmaster93
10-20-2007, 06:30 PM
These should be the next horsemen........
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/47/150033619_e26587a7e7.jpg
:D

caney
10-20-2007, 06:41 PM
The originals of course. I love original War. Clap! BOOM! Clap! BOOM!

I guess I should love the House of M Horsemen as well, since Iceman was one of them. Meh...

Citizen V
10-20-2007, 07:06 PM
The original was best,i also would have voted for the AoA..but i did not..

ExtraEpidermis
10-20-2007, 08:29 PM
Random, but since everyone is complaining about how they didn't like the most recent Horsemen, who would you have represent Death, War, Famine, and Pestilence. For me, in the wake of HoM I would go for

Icarus as Death

Chamber as War

Sunfire as Famine

and Stacy X as Pestilence.

Idk. You got three de-powered mutants (Icarus being the only exception but with what was going on with him at the time in New X-Men maybe becoming a Horseman would be more acceptable than just killing him off) who were in pretty crappy situations after HoM and them accepting being repowered by Apocalypse doesn't come to far out of left field. Once again, random but what would yo do?

Christopher O
10-20-2007, 09:48 PM
My favorite incarnation would have to be Evolution. It's the only time I've ever been interested in Apocalypse or the Horsemen. It was also the first time the Horsemen seemed like a credible threat--and this from the incarnation that's probably the most kid-friendly of them all. Nothing else even comes close for me.

Flâneur
10-20-2007, 09:55 PM
'Sif not include Candra, Sabretooth etc. in the AOA horsemen.

Nyssane
10-20-2007, 09:56 PM
My favorite incarnation would have to be Evolution. It's the only time I've ever been interested in Apocalypse or the Horsemen. It was also the first time the Horsemen seemed like a credible threat--and this from the incarnation that's probably the most kid-friendly of them all. Nothing else even comes close for me.

But the Evolution Horsemen didn't have lasting presence. They were Horsemen for two episodes and then turned back to normal. Thus, original Horsemen >> Evolution Horsemen.

Christopher O
10-20-2007, 10:00 PM
But the Evolution Horsemen didn't have lasting presence. They were Horsemen for two episodes and then turned back to normal. Thus, original Horsemen >> Evolution Horsemen.
That isn't relevant to me, since I found the original Horsemen to be uninteresting. They were also poorly designed, and don't get me started on the lame metal wings/emo blue skin BS. Seriously, that group fails for me in like ten different ways. I was at least entertained by the Evolution Horsemen, regardless of how long they were together as a group.

Nyssane
10-20-2007, 10:07 PM
That isn't relevant to me, since I found the original Horsemen to be uninteresting. They were also poorly designed, and don't get me started on the lame metal wings/emo blue skin BS. Seriously, that group fails for me in like ten different ways. I was at least entertained by the Evolution Horsemen, regardless of how long they were together as a group.

That's all your opinion. Obviously the votes show people disagree with you. The original Horsemen had individual personalities and weren't used as a plot device like the Evolution Horsemen. And the designs were great for the 80's.

Alan2099
10-20-2007, 10:14 PM
My favorite where the AOA Horsemen, while not acting as a team they still managed to come across as grade A evil and major forcers. Mikhail seemed to get the short end of the stick though. I still love Holocaust.

Christopher O
10-20-2007, 10:15 PM
That's all your opinion. Obviously the votes show people disagree with you. The original Horsemen had individual personalities and weren't used as a plot device like the Evolution Horsemen. And the designs were great for the 80's.
I know it's my opinion, Clint, but thanks for reminding me.

Nyssane
10-20-2007, 10:18 PM
I know it's my opinion, Clint, but thanks for reminding me.

You're welcome. Anytime.

Froggy
10-20-2007, 10:38 PM
RAS KASS KILLAH PRIEST WITH KURUPT AND CAN I BUS! THORW YOUR HANDS UP OR GET YOUR VOCAL CHORDS CUT








oh






wrong horsemen


in that case.......I likled the C and DP horsemen 2nd, AOA first

Dagger
10-20-2007, 11:52 PM
I liked the originals, especially Pestilence, and War, even if it did turn Warren into Archangel, where they made him all emo-y, and upped the angst on a carefree character, with a Wolverine-can-cut-things, so must I complex, and the AoA ones come in a close second. I really loved Abyss from the AoA.

Kalen O.
10-21-2007, 12:31 AM
I liked the originals, especially Pestilence, and War, even if it did turn Warren into Archangel, where they made him all emo-y, and upped the angst on a carefree character, with a Wolverine-can-cut-things, so must I complex, and the AoA ones come in a close second. I really loved Abyss from the AoA.

Right? Non-AOA Abyss fails for being made of so much suck, when clearly, he was always intended to be awesome. UGH.

Dagger
10-21-2007, 12:34 AM
Right? Non-AOA Abyss fails for being made of so much suck, when clearly, he was always intended to be awesome. UGH.
OMG, Abyss616 sucks so hardcore, he gives new meaning to the term HOOVER!

Kalen O.
10-21-2007, 12:37 AM
OMG, Abyss616 sucks so hardcore, he gives new meaning to the term HOOVER!

Personally, I blame Nightcrawler. He'd stopped being awesome around the time they were revealed as half brothers, thus clearly he spread his suck to the rest of his family tree.

And then they met their brother Kiwi Black, and the bottom just done fell out.

worstblogever
10-21-2007, 01:24 AM
Random, but since everyone is complaining about how they didn't like the most recent Horsemen, who would you have represent Death, War, Famine, and Pestilence. For me, in the wake of HoM I would go for

Icarus as Death

Chamber as War

Sunfire as Famine

and Stacy X as Pestilence.

Idk. You got three de-powered mutants (Icarus being the only exception but with what was going on with him at the time in New X-Men maybe becoming a Horseman would be more acceptable than just killing him off) who were in pretty crappy situations after HoM and them accepting being repowered by Apocalypse doesn't come to far out of left field. Once again, random but what would yo do?

Just tell me that Stacy X wouldn't be trying to give the whole world STDs. Oh wait... last they left her, that's exactly what she's doing...


Anyone have any thoughts on when after Onslaught, Apocalypse kidnapped the Hulk right out from under the X-Men's nose and made him into the Horseman War, and he single-handedly defeated Absorbing Man and Juggernaut (not the Huggernaut, the real deal.)?

Lombardo!
10-21-2007, 08:31 AM
when was Hulk death? or was he war?

i thought that was cool. he pwned rick jones' spinal cord.

worstblogever
10-21-2007, 09:17 AM
when was Hulk death? or was he war?

i thought that was cool. he pwned rick jones' spinal cord.

Incredible Hulk #456- art by the Kubert brothers.

Titan76
10-21-2007, 09:42 AM
The Original Horsemen were very cool but the AoA Horsemen were more interesting to me mainly because they were interesting when they were together and apart. While the Originals were never interesting when they weren't together.

Phil Hunn
10-21-2007, 09:51 AM
My favourite Horsemen are Ric Flair, Arn & Ole Anderson, and Tully Blanchard.

Oh, you mean comics Horsemen... well, in that case, the originals are my absolute favourites, but Death-Wolverine and Death-Gambit are cool as well :)

Gene M.
10-21-2007, 11:26 PM
These guys are a close second for me!

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j263/eg_marsh/durer-07.jpg
Northern Renaissance woodcuts FTW!

RoguishGurl
10-21-2007, 11:27 PM
These guys are a close second for me!

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j263/eg_marsh/durer-07.jpg
Northern Renaissance woodcuts FTW!

I knew it was coming!!

Diablito
10-22-2007, 06:28 PM
I liked Sunfire with the Horsemen because he had the cool AoA costume... so I voted for his Horsemen, even though they sort of sucked.

Alphaxman
10-22-2007, 06:52 PM
I like the AOA version the best because they were really Apocalypse’s generals and not just 4 mutants that he rounded up together. Yes the original 4 did represent the 4 horsemen concept better but the AOA versions were much more powerful. The X-Men had a hard time dealing with them one at a time so I could hardly image them against the 4 together. Plus they had their own agendas and didn’t blindly follow Apocalypse. They were just plain evil.

ScarletStorm
10-23-2007, 12:51 AM
does anyone have an image of the Evolution horsemen? that would be sweet as I'm not familiar with them...thanks!

Yoshi
10-23-2007, 12:54 AM
The evolution horsemen are pictured a couple of pages ago.

Nyssane
01-12-2008, 10:07 AM
The Evolution Horsemen sucked.

ToxicTeen
01-12-2008, 10:09 AM
AoA Horsemen, Evolution Horsemen, and Mangaverse Horsemen. :D

pryde15
01-12-2008, 10:26 AM
AOA Horsemen were badass, they could wipe the floor with any of the other incarnations, as far as I'm concerned.

Josef F.
01-12-2008, 03:35 PM
I've never branched into mangavers.
But that team sounds hella wicked fierce
Any scan anyone coulc come up with would be beautiful and adored
=]

Secret Identity
01-12-2008, 04:48 PM
http://www.hulknews.com/hulkdatabase/hulk457-stopsjuggernaut.jpg

Seriously badass

SunfireX
01-12-2008, 05:33 PM
The first four are my favorites. They seemed so driven and committed to Apocalypse's cause. I think the problem with newer incarnations is that you know they are going to turn good again but when Warren was Archangel it seemed like he could snap at any time and revert to his death programing.

DDM
01-12-2008, 05:36 PM
The first four are my favorites. They seemed so driven and committed to Apocalypse's cause. I think the problem with newer incarnations is that you know they are going to turn good again but when Warren was Archangel it seemed like he could snap at any time and revert to his death programing.

And Warren's deadly wings seemed to have a separate personality all their own.

Monty_Cristo
01-12-2008, 05:48 PM
Holocaust
Abyss
Mr. Sinister
Mikhail Rasputin

DDM
01-12-2008, 05:52 PM
Holocaust
Abyss
Mr. Sinister
Mikhail Rasputin

Except when all was said & done, The Age of Apocalypse never happened...:rolleyes:

Speed
01-12-2008, 06:27 PM
Except when all was said & done, The Age of Apocalypse never happened...:rolleyes: It happened in the Age of Apocalypse storyline in the mid-90's.

jester1436
01-12-2008, 06:38 PM
Except when all was said & done, The Age of Apocalypse never happened...:rolleyes:

Except it continues to exist as an alternate reality, or we wouldn't have had Blink and Sabretooth in Exiles and the frightful anniversary throwback stories.

Secret Identity
01-12-2008, 06:49 PM
Except it continues to exist as an alternate reality, or we wouldn't have had Blink and Sabretooth in Exiles and the frightful anniversary throwback stories.

Don't forget Dark Beast

DDM
01-13-2008, 09:43 AM
Except it continues to exist as an alternate reality, or we wouldn't have had Blink and Sabretooth in Exiles and the frightful anniversary throwback stories.

Although Marvel has gone back to the AOA, the original story shows the timeline being wiped out. No one remembers the AOA since it never happened. It was a big What If...? That's what I hated about the entire set-up. All character development was wiped clean & set back at square one.

Jack Flash
01-14-2008, 06:44 AM
I voted for the Originals. Cuz I loved them in a fanboy way. especially War.

I also voted for the AOA version, cuz I *hearted* Abyss.

Nyssane
05-11-2009, 06:22 PM
The original X-Factor Horsemen are in the far lead. Maybe the X-Writers should take note?

Dagger
05-11-2009, 06:31 PM
The original X-Factor Horsemen are in the far lead. Maybe the X-Writers should take note?

They originals could sex me something fierce. They could bring back Caliban as their hell hound, and it's all good imo.

psychic_therapy
05-11-2009, 06:34 PM
The Cable and Deadpool horsemen... Spidey seems interesting as a Horseman

Aguja
05-11-2009, 06:35 PM
The originals. The rest are scrubs.

Nyssane
05-11-2009, 06:36 PM
They originals could sex me something fierce. They could bring back Caliban as their hell hound, and it's all good imo.

If Apocalypse was smart, he'd have the original Horsemen back (aka the only ones with any bit of loyalty in them), complete with enhanced powers, and have Caliban leading a brand new Dark Riders group.

Aguja
05-11-2009, 06:40 PM
TAS Pestilence was hot! I loved her transformation, she was fierce, my favorite horseman by far.

'Pestilence will separate the weak from the strong!'

Dagger
05-11-2009, 06:43 PM
If Apocalypse was smart, he'd have the original Horsemen back (aka the only ones with any bit of loyalty in them), complete with enhanced powers, and have Caliban leading a brand new Dark Riders group.

OMG, I'D love a new Dark Riders! Caliban as the leader, and not an imbecile would rock my bajingo hardcore!

DaUltimateSheild
05-11-2009, 06:45 PM
My fave Horsemen:
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u60/losequismen/51_ascension1_067.jpg
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u60/losequismen/51_ascension1_066.jpg

Mine too :cool:

Assemble
05-11-2009, 07:12 PM
I like them all... but AoA and Original are my favoritessssss....

Novaya Havoc
05-11-2009, 07:25 PM
Stop bumping your own threads. It's ridiculous.

I guess I should go bump all of my old threads nao!1111111!111111!!!1

Jack Flash
05-11-2009, 08:08 PM
I loved the AOA Horsemen. *LOVED&ADORED* but the originals are my favorite incarnation. War, Pestilence and Famine all rock socks. But I am glad Abraham's story is complete. But I would kill kittens to see Autumn back in the proverbial saddle.

Aguja
05-11-2009, 08:41 PM
Candra was the only good AOA Horsemen, but bitch got herself killed.

psycwave
05-12-2009, 11:44 AM
I liked the originals and the Evo Horeseman. But i adored TAS Pestilence. She was beautiful.

Agent_Torpor
05-12-2009, 11:57 AM
The one scripted by Milligan and featured that lovable scamp Gazer as WAR!

alf_to_the_rescue
05-12-2009, 12:21 PM
AOA horsemen were hardcore!!

Sinister with his own plan to overthrow Apocalypse, Holocaust going against Rogues team defending the Infinite plant, Abyss dying THEN coming back and Banshee having to sacrifice himself to stop him... and well Mikhail going up against those pesky humans. They were great.

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/b/bb/Horsemen_of_Apocalypse_%28AoA%29.jpg

Oh also bastion and one of the inhumans were horsemen in that reality too. One of the prequel tales had AOA versions of the Inhumans which he had mutated.

widdershins
05-12-2009, 12:23 PM
These guys.
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/fourhors.htm

psycwave
05-12-2009, 01:19 PM
I preferred the AoA Pale Riders and his Elite Mutant Force to his Horseman.

Plague needs a child who resembles her Pestilence TAS counterpart.