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Brandon Hanvey

10-18-2007, 11:07 AM

The assignment for Round 2 is up on the Blog.

http://cbi.comicbookresources.com/cbi3/round-two/

J. adds some comments on the results of Round 1 and introduces the assignment for Round 2 which is a 3 page "Wonderlost" script by C.B. Cebulski.

C.B. will pick his favorite and will print his pick's work in an upcoming "Wonderlost" TPB

joelcook

10-18-2007, 11:17 AM

wow...that's awesome... sounds like a pretty cool prize... I have seen Wonderlost on the shelves, but after reading the premise, and now reading the script... I definitely am going to hunt this title down. I grew up and went to the high school at the same time, so I am sure I will catch a lot of the references.

polystyleneman

10-18-2007, 12:39 PM

How do those of us playing at home get the references promised in the script? Or did I miss something?

Brandon Hanvey

10-18-2007, 12:46 PM

As for the references, you can contact C.B. through his blog (http://chesterfest.blogspot.com/) if you have questions.

C.B. Cebulski

10-18-2007, 01:49 PM

As for the references that you don't get, you can contact C.B. through his blog (http://chesterfest.blogspot.com/) if you have questions.

All the reference will be posted on my blog on Friday morning for general consumption.

Sorry for the delay!

Take care,
C.B.

escapegoat

10-18-2007, 01:56 PM

All the reference will be posted on my blog on Friday morning for general consumption.

C.B.

Mmmmmmm.......consuming generals..........Gaahhhh!!!

R Santos Jr

10-18-2007, 02:50 PM

All the reference will be posted on my blog on Friday morning for general consumption.

Sorry for the delay!

Take care,
C.B.
Ah well... I guess everybody will have to pass the time watching old Saved By the Bell or Degrassi High (or Old People's Degrassi or whatever the kids are calling it nowadays... ) episodes or something. ^^;

the goddamn batman

10-18-2007, 03:13 PM

Don't forget 21 Jump Street!:D

(crap, I'm getting old.)

Also, seeing as there is dialog in this one, are we supposed to put it in or does it matter either way?

polystyleneman

10-18-2007, 04:09 PM

Brandon Hanvey

10-18-2007, 04:15 PM

My guess is it is up to how far we want to push the art...

I mean if you're just supplying pencils you wouldn't do dialog but if you're going to put together the whole shebang (inks/colors, etc... as the contestants are allowed - and play at homers have no rules) then I think adding the dialog would make sense.

Anyway, my guess is it's up to you.

Yes, it is up to the finalists if they want to add the text or not. Just as some added Sound FX in the last round.

It can be a double edged sword though since the more you do the more the judges will critique you.

the goddamn batman

10-18-2007, 04:25 PM

Well, I'm only play at home so it really doesn't matter either way for me. Just curious.

Thanks.

Brandon Hanvey

10-18-2007, 04:44 PM

For those not that familiar with C.B.'s "Wonderlost", here are some samples pages.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=9478
http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=91424

Hieu Le Bui

10-18-2007, 05:02 PM

Another three pages assignment? Make them do five covers or something CBI. :)

Brandon Hanvey

10-18-2007, 05:04 PM

Another three pages assignment? Make them do five covers or something CBI. :)

We are harsh taskmasters.

Hieu Le Bui

10-18-2007, 05:13 PM

We are harsh taskmasters.

You're making it too easy for them my friend. :D

Not to dissed the fine writers that submitted scripts for this CBI but at least give them a Bendis script to mix it up a little. Love to see what the contestants can do from a script that has been drawn and published just to see how the artists would interprets what the professionals has done.

Brandon Hanvey

10-18-2007, 05:19 PM

You're making it too easy for them my friend. :D

Not to dissed the fine writers that submitted scripts for this CBI but at least give them a Bendis script to mix it up a little. Love to see what the contestants can do from a script that has been drawn and published just to see how the artists would interprets what the professionals has done.

To my knowledge, all the scripts for CBI 3 are original.

Physicdesigns

10-18-2007, 05:20 PM

that scipt was drawn and published

Brandon Hanvey

10-18-2007, 06:25 PM

I just noticed something odd in the script.

Page Three, Panel Five

Widescreen shot of C.B. and the girl from panel five of page one walking down an empty high school hallway holding hands. Lockers and doorways line either side, but there are no other students in the hall besides the two of them walking down the center of it now.

Caption: So while I never shook the cheerleader’s pom-poms or gave the prom queen a night she’ll never forget…

Caption: …I realize now that it’s the action I didn't get in high school that’s always stayed with me.

But there is no girl in panel 5 of page one. Just young C.B.

Page One, Panel Five

Establishing shot of C.B. here now, dressed much like he is on the cover of Wonderlost #1: jeans, t-shirt, sambas, Rossignol cap, and black and yellow JB soccer jacket. He’s on his own, maybe holding a notebook and a text book under one arm, as he walks down a crowded high school hallway lined with lockers.

Caption: I mean, sure, I was your typical, horny high school teen, looking for love in any place I could find it.

Caption: Most often in the pants of any girl who’d let me in.

I wonder if C.B. meant panel six?

Page One, Panel Six

C.B. now standing in the same hallway in front of the lockers with a cute little dark-haired hottie, dressed casually in jeans and sweater and Keds or something similar. She has her back up against the lockers as he leans in and over her and they make goo-goo eyes at each other.

Caption: But now that I’m older, reflecting back on all the different girls I dated…

Caption: …I’ve come to realize that the ones I slept with are the ones I remember the least.

the goddamn batman

10-18-2007, 06:52 PM

But there is no girl in panel 5 of page one. Just young C.B.

I wonder if C.B. meant panel six?

That's what I'd assumed.

Also? Page Three, Panel One

C.B. and the girl from the Wonderlost story “Look Up” as they lay on the beach and stare up at the star-filled night sky.

What if you've never read that story? The single page from it in the link you provided doesn't show enough to define the characters look.:confused:

Brandon Hanvey

10-18-2007, 06:53 PM

That's what I'd assumed.

Also?

What if you've never read that story? The single page from it in the link you provided doesn't show enough to define the characters look.:confused:

C.B. said he would post reference on his blog by Friday.

the goddamn batman

10-18-2007, 06:57 PM

I NEED IT NOW!!!!!!

just kidding.:D

Brandon Hanvey

10-18-2007, 08:27 PM

A thing I'll be interested to see is if anyone actually draws the people in the script as teenagers and not just shorter adults.

R Santos Jr

10-18-2007, 08:28 PM

I NEED IT NOW!!!!!!

just kidding.:D
Google is your friend.
http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=92777

Now if anybody needs references for the hallways and lockers of Joel Barlow High School circa 1989, your on your own. XD

Shakespeare

10-18-2007, 09:48 PM

I do not envy the finalists' here, this is one tough assignment. They have to draw Prom Queens, Dead Heads, Field Hockey Uniforms even a 1985 white Honda Accord on 3 six to seven panel pages. CB has made it clear that the details count and there are alot of details! This is going to give the judges anything to Nit-Pick on. To have this all done by Monday at Noon is going to be hard. If the finalists' can get this done then those guys can draw anything. Best of Luck to all of you and I look forward to your works.

C.B. Cebulski

10-19-2007, 07:07 AM

I'm one of those guys where if anything can wrong it always will, and wouldn't you know it... I go to post reference today and Blogger is down. So I'm posting here for now...

Yours truly...

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2142/1635498136_4e76c39c65_m.jpg

Adidas sambas...

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2271/1634618693_c3178eb6e9_o.jpg

Looking out the side door onto the porch...

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2023/1635500638_3c9c52872a.jpg

C.B. Cebulski

10-19-2007, 07:09 AM

The same door when closed...

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2014/1634624357_f3270c5f05_o.jpg

My senior prom...

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2159/1634623665_d5db43406a_o.jpg

Prom dresses from 1988...

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2182/1634621797_dc878642ac.jpg

C.B. Cebulski

10-19-2007, 07:11 AM

I just noticed something odd in the script.

But there is no girl in panel 5 of page one. Just young C.B.

I wonder if C.B. meant panel six?

Yup, my bad. I added that inset panel and forgot to adjust the rest of the script accordingly. Sorry!

Now you know why I need an editor... :)

C.B. Cebulski

10-19-2007, 07:12 AM

That's what I'd assumed.

Also?

What if you've never read that story? The single page from it in the link you provided doesn't show enough to define the characters look.:confused:

The whole story is posted here...

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=92777

J. Torres

10-19-2007, 07:36 AM

Thanks, C.B.! I've let the contestants know. Been having the same issues with Blogger for the last week myself, but I digress...

Long live the 80s!

(Even though that headshot of you looks more like it's from the 60s :D)

escapegoat

10-19-2007, 08:11 AM

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2159/1634623665_d5db43406a_o.jpg

Ahhhh....yes. The great alien marshmellow invasion of 1988....I remember that well. I see you were one of the lucky ones who didn't wind up getting one stuck on your head....

-Ty

R Santos Jr

10-19-2007, 08:47 AM

Looking out the side door onto the porch...

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2023/1635500638_3c9c52872a.jpg

Aww nuts.
Am I the only one that read reference photos and thought they'd be of the GIRLS and not the PORCH? XD
On that point, am I to understand that the artists are all to go nuts on the character designs for each of the different girls in the comic? (save for the "Look Up" girl...)

... should we ask C.B. what his preferences are? XD

DanielSchenstrom

10-19-2007, 09:10 AM

You know, if you need reference for girls - that's what 90% of the internet is about...

polystyleneman

10-19-2007, 10:29 AM

We are harsh taskmasters.

I thought the whole point of testing one's storytelling was to have them do sequentials. If we want to have them do covers we could just hold an art contest.

polystyleneman

10-19-2007, 10:36 AM

You know, if you need reference for girls - that's what 90% of the internet is about...

Yeah, the first panel is of cheerleaders, so the first thing I did was a google search for "cheerleaders" and you know what I got? Go ahead, take a good guess.... :eek:

polystyleneman

10-19-2007, 10:45 AM

Also, the story is described by the author to be in the 3rd person, but isn't it really in 1st person?

R Santos Jr

10-19-2007, 10:47 AM

Yeah, the first panel is of cheerleaders, so the first thing I did was a google search for "cheerleaders" and you know what I got? Go ahead, take a good guess.... :eek:
Were they Friends of Lulu websites? :3
Also, the story is described by the author to be in the 3rd person, but isn't it really in 1st person?
Think Wonder Years or Everybody Hate's Chris.
It's 3rd person due to the fact that it's "Older C.B." narrating the events in the love life of "Teen C.B.".

Hieu Le Bui

10-19-2007, 10:58 AM

My senior prom...

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2159/1634623665_d5db43406a_o.jpg

Why did everyone have a white bag over theirs head? Were ya'all in a witness protection town or something? LOL :D

Brandon Hanvey

10-19-2007, 11:00 AM

Yeah, the first panel is of cheerleaders, so the first thing I did was a google search for "cheerleaders" and you know what I got? Go ahead, take a good guess.... :eek:

Somebody has safesearch turned off.

DanielSchenstrom

10-19-2007, 11:17 AM

A tip: There's some cheerleader pics on CB's High School's home page.

And I actually succeeded in not finding...the wrong stuff..., when I googled for cheerleaders, but instead got some links to suggestive pics from a large cheerleader portal. Sometimes I wish they'd just have a separate internet for all that kind of stuff.

Brandon Hanvey

10-19-2007, 11:23 AM

Joel Barlow High School links

Main site
http://www.er9.org/jbhs/index2.html

Football team site with photos
http://barlowfootball.org/photos.html
Note: These are the current team photos. Things may have been different in the 80's.

polystyleneman

10-19-2007, 11:27 AM

Somebody has safesearch turned off.

Actually it was on, that's why it was surprising! And it was a yahoo image search. I just checked, they are on. It's my work computer.

DanielSchenstrom

10-19-2007, 11:31 AM

"Sorry boss, I was just surfing for high school cheerleaders..." :D

Brandon Hanvey

10-19-2007, 11:46 AM

JB Hockey team site with a good shot of the JB logo though again this may be different from the 1980's

http://www.barlowhockey.com/

polystyleneman

10-19-2007, 11:57 AM

JB Hockey team site with a good shot of the JB logo though again this may be different from the 1980's

http://www.barlowhockey.com/

Go San Pancho! (or Frisco, if you prefer, which I don't)

C.B. Cebulski

10-19-2007, 12:31 PM

JB Hockey team site with a good shot of the JB logo though again this may be different from the 1980's

http://www.barlowhockey.com/

That's pretyy much the same logo. Nice find!

Thanks,
C.B.

C.B. Cebulski

10-19-2007, 12:32 PM

I write all my Wonderlost scripts while listening to music. It's usually always to music from around the time periods the specific stories are set in; music that helps bring the memories back or are key to the stories I'm writing. I choose to do something a little different with the playlist I made for writing "What Matters Most..." for CBI though. I went ahead and included some newer music that captured the mood or feelings of some of the scenes in the panels, so it turned into a pretty eclectic mix if I do say so myself. Here you go...

Jack and Diane - John Cougar Mellencamp
The Gift - Angels & Airwaves
Melt With You - Modern English
Ocean Avenue - Yellowcard
The Flame - Cheap Trick
Screaming Infidelities - Dashboard Confessional
Hold Onto The Nights - Richard Marx
Never Say Goodbye - Bon Jovi

Short story, short list...

C.B. Cebulski

10-19-2007, 12:37 PM

Also, the story is described by the author to be in the 3rd person, but isn't it really in 1st person?

The narrator's voice is in the first person, yes, but I was actually referring to how I wrote the panel descriptions. Originally it read:

"This is a small inset panel in the bottom right corner of panel three. It’s a simple shot of me here, smiling or winking at the reader, as I enter the story."

But I changed it to:

"This is a small inset panel in the bottom right corner of panel three. It’s a simple shot of a young C.B. here, smiling or winking at the reader, as he enters the story."

Thanks for asking!

Take care,
C.B.

C.B. Cebulski

10-19-2007, 12:41 PM

that scipt was drawn and published

No, that's actually an original script done for CBI3.

Take care,
C.B.

polystyleneman

10-19-2007, 12:54 PM

The narrator's voice is in the first person, yes, but I was actually referring to how I wrote the panel descriptions. Originally it read:

"This is a small inset panel in the bottom right corner of panel three. It’s a simple shot of me here, smiling or winking at the reader, as I enter the story."

But I changed it to:

"This is a small inset panel in the bottom right corner of panel three. It’s a simple shot of a young C.B. here, smiling or winking at the reader, as he enters the story."

Thanks for asking!

Take care,
C.B.

I see, I was afraid I was getting confused. I'm borderline dyslexic and get confused when something can be either one way or another. i was afraid I was getting 1st and 3rd person backwards.

Brandon Hanvey

10-19-2007, 12:55 PM

Thanks, C.B.! I've let the contestants know. Been having the same issues with Blogger for the last week myself, but I digress...

Blogger? Real men use WordPress.
http://wordpress.com/
http://wordpress.org/

polystyleneman

10-19-2007, 01:12 PM

This is an interesting story to narrate, it's almost a series of vignettes, or little memories that require the captions to pull them together. At least that's what I'm finding while I draw the pages.

A good challenge!

polystyleneman

10-19-2007, 03:40 PM

polystyleneman

10-19-2007, 05:26 PM

This script reminds me a bit of High Fidelity kind of an approach. One of my favorite movies.

Chris Daley

10-19-2007, 07:04 PM

Jack and Diane - John Cougar Mellencamp
The Gift - Angels & Airwaves
Melt With You - Modern English
Ocean Avenue - Yellowcard
The Flame - Cheap Trick
Screaming Infidelities - Dashboard Confessional
Hold Onto The Nights - Richard Marx
Never Say Goodbye - Bon Jovi

Short story, short list...

CB -

While I'm sure we've taken different roads since graduation, our high school lives were so alike it's terrifying to me. While there were some differences (not the least of which are that I grew up in Indiana and am gay), the music (what, no Cutting Crew or Edie Brickell?), the shoes, the random assortment of stolen/copped alcohol is all way too familiar.

Great script, by the way. I hope the contestants have a blast drawing what is basically (minus the girl lusting) my high school years.

Best,

Chris

C.B. Cebulski

10-20-2007, 01:44 PM

CB -

While I'm sure we've taken different roads since graduation, our high school lives were so alike it's terrifying to me. While there were some differences (not the least of which are that I grew up in Indiana and am gay), the music (what, no Cutting Crew or Edie Brickell?), the shoes, the random assortment of stolen/copped alcohol is all way too familiar.

Great script, by the way. I hope the contestants have a blast drawing what is basically (minus the girl lusting) my high school years.

Best,

Chris

Thanks for posting this, Chris! It really is amazing how similar the high schools lives of so many of us are, even given the obvious differences in our backgrounds, hometowns and sexuality. I've been realizing that so much more after speaking with people who have read Wonderlost.

And while I was never a big Edie Brickell fan, the Cutters' "I've Been In Love Before" is on many of my other playlists!

Take care,
C.B.

Chris Daley

10-20-2007, 02:13 PM

And while I was never a big Edie Brickell fan, the Cutters' "I've Been In Love Before" is on many of my other playlists!

Take care,
C.B.

C.B -

Big points for knowing a CC song other than "Died in your Arms." For folks who are completely confused, go to: www.tgilmore.com/cc/

And, with apologies to all straight male fans of the New Bohemians, I think buying their album was largely a consequence of being gay. lol

With that, this journey off-topic is concluded. Back to the regularly scheduled discussion of reference material and whatnot while we await the first contestant's submissions.

Best,

Chris

polystyleneman

10-20-2007, 09:36 PM

Were they Friends of Lulu websites? :3

Think Wonder Years or Everybody Hate's Chris.
It's 3rd person due to the fact that it's "Older C.B." narrating the events in the love life of "Teen C.B.".

Yeah, exactly. Both of those shows were in the first person, if I remember right. Being in the past tense doesn't make something third person. Actually, almost any first person narrative I can think of is in the past tense.