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Linkara
10-15-2007, 02:44 AM
...I wanna hug you so much right now. :D

The preview for Brave and the Bold #7 has ben released on Newsarama and your Power Girl is excellent. I'm so glad I decided to keep picking up this book. ^_^
MartinRedmond
10-15-2007, 07:38 AM
Yeah Mark Waid is awesome. Let me think of negative things to say about Waid.... mmmm... there isn't. Mark Waid > Jesus
Cayman
10-15-2007, 07:50 AM
Ugh, catty Wonder Woman and a plotline swiped from Supergirl took this one off my "to-buy" list. I wish Waid didn't throw so much sitcom-level humor into his books.
the4thpip
10-15-2007, 08:08 AM
Brave and the Bold is currently one of my favorite DC books.
Dedagda
10-15-2007, 10:02 AM
I love Waid. He's on my "all-star" list of writers.

Didio once told me in passing that it was the characters and not the writers. I really disagree with him. We'll be stuck with the 1940s-1960s characters created during WWII and Cold War and the Baby Boomers without and progress. I love Superman and Batman, but I need characters that reflect my youth and my experience.

We can periodically re-envision them, but that comes from the writers.

I'm not sure where I'm going with this. Oh yeah - I love Waid.

If Gail can write 4 books successfully, I'd love to see a DC Universe run by her and a few other writers: Waid, Morrison, Bedard, Johns, Andreyko, McDuffie, and Rucka to name a few. Let them all take 3 - 4 books. Could you imagine the cohesive universe we'd have? Could you imagine the new characters and innovation?
Johnny_Luck
10-15-2007, 10:10 AM
Waids/Perez supergirl is really bad in that its never the same or even close character wise from the previous issue and that the art makes her either look barbie wannbe young or MILF wannbe biker chickish.

Her charater actions are so far off from how they were in the first 16 issues of supergirl that it makes it impossible for me to get used to or like it. Plus like I said the way she acts changes each issue from how he had her last. 2 and 4 proved that point.
Jack Zodiac
10-15-2007, 10:42 AM
Supergirl hasn't been written consistently by anybody. Loeb wrote her completely different than Kelly who wrote her completely different than Bedard, who wrote her completely different than Waid, and Waid seems to have written her completely different in Brave and the Bold than he had in Legion of Super-Heroes. And I'm sure other writers have written her completely different in between them (Kurt Busiek in Action, now McKeever in Teen Titans). All I can hope for the character is that, when she's used, she's written in at least an entertaining way, because right now, she's got absolutely zero character, or possibly even negative character.

That said, her run-in with Lobo in Brave and the Bold was hilarious, and I'll take "sitcom-level humor" over the shit most creators confuse with humor. Hell, even Gail's work approaches "sitcom" humor, but seriously, what the fuck's wrong with that? Absolutely nothing.

Haven't read the preview yet, but I'm looking forward to a Wonder Woman/Power Girl superheroine team-up.
Rattlehead
10-15-2007, 10:44 AM
Waids/Perez supergirl is really bad in that its never the same or even close character wise from the previous issue and that the art makes her either look barbie wannbe young or MILF wannbe biker chickish.

She was dressed up as a biker chick because she had to trick Lobo into giving her a ride. Without Green Lantern around she was stuck, and Lobo and his cosmic bike were the only thing capable of getting her to Rann. It was really Waid throwing some humour into the situation than anything else. As for her characterization, that's been inconsistent in her own book after Loeb left. She's wildly different from writer to writer, and you can't really blame that on Waid, she has no standard for characterization so far.

Her charater actions are so far off from how they were in the first 16 issues of supergirl that it makes it impossible for me to get used to or like it. Plus like I said the way she acts changes each issue from how he had her last. 2 and 4 proved that point.

Again, she has no standard for characterization. After Loeb left her book she's been all over the place, and Waid has prety much stuck to how he writes her in LoSH. Supergirl's solo book has been an unmitigated mess, and once you get to the Joe Kelly and Tony Bedard issues your'e going to see a completely diiferent Kara.
MartinRedmond
10-15-2007, 10:57 AM
I'll take "sitcom-level humor" over the shit most creators confuse with humor. Hell, even Gail's work approaches "sitcom" humor, but seriously, what the fuck's wrong with that? Absolutely nothing.

Exactly, it's tried and true.
Sarah Beach
10-15-2007, 11:26 AM
If Gail can write 4 books successfully, I'd love to see a DC Universe run by her and a few other writers: Waid, Morrison, Bedard, Johns, Andreyko, McDuffie, and Rucka to name a few. Let them all take 3 - 4 books. Could you imagine the cohesive universe we'd have? Could you imagine the new characters and innovation?

Cohesive? You mean like what we have now?

Besides, if a mere handful of writers are doing everything, where's someone like me to break in?

;)
Cayman
10-15-2007, 11:30 AM
Cohesive? You mean like what we have now?

Besides, if a mere handful of writers are doing everything, where's someone like me to break in?

;)

You can start with your Donna Troy book. It seems fair.
Jack Zodiac
10-15-2007, 11:32 AM
Besides, if a mere handful of writers are doing everything, where's someone like me to break in?

Somewhere better than DC?

Oh, rimshot!
TCJohnson
10-15-2007, 11:34 AM
If Gail can write 4 books successfully, I'd love to see a DC Universe run by her and a few other writers: Waid, Morrison, Bedard, Johns, Andreyko, McDuffie, and Rucka to name a few. Let them all take 3 - 4 books. Could you imagine the cohesive universe we'd have? Could you imagine the new characters and innovation?

But I don't like half those writers. Where would the people who did not like their writing fit in? Rather have more diversity.
Cayman
10-15-2007, 11:35 AM
But I don't like half those writers. Where would the people who did not like their writing fit in? Rather have more diversity.

I'd like to see writers like Jason Aaron, Tom Peyer, and Mike Carey working in the DCU.
Jack Zodiac
10-15-2007, 11:38 AM
What's Jason Aaron done beside The Other Side (he did that, right?). And I'd crack a whole bus full of nuns' necks to see Mike Carey write something awesome for DC. His run on Ultimate Fantastic Four was been fuckin' amazing. You could probably give him a big project involving the New Gods and he'd surprise the hell out of everyone with it.
Cayman
10-15-2007, 11:41 AM
What's Jason Aaron done beside The Other Side (he did that, right?). And I'd crack a whole bus full of nuns' necks to see Mike Carey write something awesome for DC. His run on Ultimate Fantastic Four was been fuckin' amazing. You could probably give him a big project involving the New Gods and he'd surprise the hell out of everyone with it.

He has a monthly Vertigo book called Scalped that's quite good (or at least the first TPB is) and he did nice single issues out of unlikely books like Wolverine and Ripclaw. I'd probably put him on Batman or the Outsiders or something darker like that.

I'd like to see Andy Diggle do more work in the main DCU too beyond flashback titles.

And if Simon Oliver is gonna write Gen13, maybe see what he could do in the DCU as well.
Jack Zodiac
10-15-2007, 11:50 AM
Ah, haven't picked up Scalped, yet. I've been fairly disappointed in most of Vertigo's newest titles, even Carey's Crossing Midnight.

Diggle, though, has already completely turned Hellblazer around aver Mina's lackluster run. And he did such an amazing job with Ferry on that Adam Strange mini-series a couple years ago. If they really do wind up relaunching Strange Adventures after Countdown, I'd love to see Diggle and Ferry handle his stories for a while.
Cam63
10-15-2007, 03:42 PM
Looks a good'un.
will_butler
10-15-2007, 05:00 PM
Ah, haven't picked up Scalped, yet. I've been fairly disappointed in most of Vertigo's newest titles, even Carey's Crossing Midnight.

Diggle, though, has already completely turned Hellblazer around aver Mina's lackluster run. And he did such an amazing job with Ferry on that Adam Strange mini-series a couple years ago. If they really do wind up relaunching Strange Adventures after Countdown, I'd love to see Diggle and Ferry handle his stories for a while.

Scalped is very, very good, and only getting better. It and American Virgin are the only two Vertigo books I'm picking up at the moment.

Will