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Dark Ben

10-06-2007, 02:07 PM

From Wikipedia:

During the 1994 event, Zero Hour (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_Hour_%28comics%29), Power Girl experiences a mystical pregnancy and gives birth to a son, Equinox, who ages rapidly. He disappears, and has never been mentioned again.

Hawkman

10-06-2007, 02:19 PM

Baby? What baby? I know of no baby. Now could someone please delete this thread so I can pretend it never existed, too?:D

Flamebird

10-06-2007, 02:24 PM

Baby? What baby? I know of no baby. Now could someone please delete this thread so I can pretend it never existed, too?:D

Like they say,

"What happens in Zero Hour, STAYS in Zero Hour".

Honestly, this is one of the rare times that both DC and the fans seem happy to pretend it never happened.

Lorendiac

10-07-2007, 09:12 PM

Like they say,

"What happens in Zero Hour, STAYS in Zero Hour".

Honestly, this is one of the rare times that both DC and the fans seem happy to pretend it never happened.

To elaborate a little -- Equinox did stick around in continuity for a bit after Zero Hour had officially ended. Here's something I said on the subject a couple of months ago, when someone was asking about Power Girl's baby:

About Power Girl and her kid: her child was still around in the DCU for awhile after Zero Hour; I'm sure of that much. He rapidly grew up (offstage) and called himself "Equinox" when he appeared in the "Justice League America" series that immediately preceded the series that began with Grant Morrison as the regular writer. I'm told that his very last appearance was in #108 of that series -- cover-dated February 1996. Here's a link to a cover scan:

http://www.comics.org/coverview.lasso?id=58432&zoom=4

From things I've read online about him, I have the impression that he has never been seen or heard from since that time, however. Does that mean that somewhere along the line he's been retcon-punched out of existence? How would I know? We can certainly hope so, though!

Eliseu Gouveia

10-07-2007, 10:03 PM

I´m sure someone somewhere somehow is right now thinking:"- Wow, I like that name. Let me ressurrect that baby."

Expect to hear from him in 5-10 years.

marshal99

10-08-2007, 12:27 AM

At one point, it was thought that Hal was the father as he and PG apparently had a bit of a hanky panky moment inside Hal's green dome when they were under attack by Sonar. ;)

Eliseu Gouveia

10-08-2007, 12:48 AM

Ouch!

This is bound to raise flames.
Edit,edit ^_^

CarolStrick

10-08-2007, 07:01 AM

At one point, it was thought that Hal was the father as he and PG apparently had a bit of a hanky panky moment inside Hal's green dome when they were under attack by Sonar. ;)

Peege's grandfather Arion was the father of the child, creating it mystically and ickily without asking her permission or letting her know anything about it. Yet another handful of reasons to say:

NO KID. NEVER HAPPENED.

Sean Walsh

10-08-2007, 07:35 AM

I´m sure someone somewhere somehow is right now thinking:"- Wow, I like that name. Let me ressurrect that baby."

Expect to hear from him in 5-10 years.

If Geoff Johns hasn't brought him back yet in the midst of all these Crisises, then I dare say the return of Equinox (and his evil devil-from-Legend-aka-Tim-Curry nemesis) won't ever be happening.

caboose

10-08-2007, 07:41 AM

Peege's grandfather Arion was the father of the child, creating it mystically and ickily without asking her permission or letting her know anything about it.

Thats just about the most disturbing thing i've ever read about a comic book character.

Shellhead

10-08-2007, 07:48 AM

Ugh. It's like DC was jealous of Marvel for doing that crappy Marcus Immortus story.

Eliseu Gouveia

10-08-2007, 08:05 AM

Peege's grandfather Arion was the father of the child, creating it mystically and ickily without asking her permission or letting her know anything about it. Yet another handful of reasons to say:

NO KID. NEVER HAPPENED.Okay, now that is just....

her own retconned atlantean grandfather?
Wow.
Somehow, "gross" doesn´t seem to quite make it justice or pack enough punch.

Ye english folk need to start creating words with more oomph!

rwe1138

10-08-2007, 10:20 AM

Thats just about the most disturbing thing i've ever read about a comic book character.

It's not as bad as what happened to Carol Danvers, A.K.A. Ms. Marvel/Binary/Warbird/Ms. Marvel again. From her Wiki:

Ms. Marvel joins the Avengers shortly before her solo series folds, but several months later is sidelined due to a surprise pregnancy. As shown in Avengers #200, her pregnancy progresses at an abnormal speed, and she gives birth to a son within weeks. Her son, Marcus, quickly grows to adulthood and reveals that he is from Limbo, a dimension outside of time and that he has fallen in love with Danvers. The story reveals that Marcus kidnapped Danvers during a previous mission and used mind-control devices to force her to fall in love with him. He seduced and impregnated her, transferred his essence into her womb, becoming his own son. After he makes this revelation to Danvers and the Avengers, she agrees to be his partner, and leaves the team to be with him.

CarolStrick

10-08-2007, 11:11 AM

The entire thing reminded me very much of the Carol Danvers debacle. Ms. Marvel and Power Girl's careers have much in common, seeing as they are the leading "liberated females" for each company and each has had writers/artists who felt that she aparently had to be debased for being so.

jv2k

10-08-2007, 11:13 AM

He's his own son?
Retcon punch sounds plausible after reading that.

vazel

10-08-2007, 11:16 AM

It's not as bad as what happened to Carol Danvers, A.K.A. Ms. Marvel/Binary/Warbird/Ms. Marvel again. From he Wiki:
OH. MY. GOD.

Lorendiac

10-08-2007, 11:19 AM

Okay, now that is just....

her own retconned atlantean grandfather?
Wow.
Somehow, "gross" doesn´t seem to quite make it justice or pack enough punch.

Ye english folk need to start creating words with more oomph!

Well, our language already includes:

Sickening, depraved, disgusting, despicable, perverted, tasteless, abusive, nauseating, and "just plain rude."

One of those ought to fit the situation well enough.

Shellhead

10-08-2007, 11:31 AM

Well, our language already includes:

Sickening, depraved, disgusting, despicable, perverted, tasteless, abusive, nauseating, and "just plain rude."

One of those ought to fit the situation well enough.

No, I think we need a special label for this kind of crap. Fans of the Wildcards series know that a similar and yet even more vile event took place there, involving Doctor Tachyon.

Young Avenger

10-08-2007, 01:58 PM

It's not as bad as what happened to Carol Danvers, A.K.A. Ms. Marvel/Binary/Warbird/Ms. Marvel again. From he Wiki:

What. the. Hell.

Froggy

10-08-2007, 02:06 PM

OH. MY. GOD.

statement echoed. that's just...wrong.......on SOOOOOOO many levels

rwe1138

10-08-2007, 05:03 PM

I know, right? Luckily Chris Claremont (the good '80s one, not the craptastic current version) was able to salvage her. She later went off on the Avengers about basically letting her go off with her rapist.

Anyway, PG's pregnancy should never be mentioned again. Maybe on New Earth, it never happened.

Stanlos

10-09-2007, 11:41 AM

Can anybody tell me the details about Power Girl's baby , who was the father , what happened to the kid , etc . Is there any evidence to support if it's still in continuity or not ?
Thanks for any help .

The removable of this deplorable arc is the only reason I accept the ditching of Power Girl's Post Crisis history. That was a blight to the character and though I really liked Peege, I happily wave bye bye if it means that PGB story never happened.

Buried Alien

10-09-2007, 11:46 AM

Jamie

10-09-2007, 03:02 PM

rwe1138

10-09-2007, 03:14 PM

Thank goodness! Who wrote the original arc?

Jim Shooter, George Perez, Bob Layton & David Michelinie.

Shellhead

10-09-2007, 03:32 PM

Jim Shooter, George Perez, Bob Layton & David Michelinie.

George and Bob are artists, so I wouldn't assign them too much blame here. There was one panel of tasteful nudity, not counting the fact that it involved paradoxical time travel incest. And I'm not sure that Layton ever worked on the Avengers.

Eliseu Gouveia

10-09-2007, 08:53 PM

Jim Shooter, George Perez, Bob Layton & David Michelinie.

I´ve always loved Jim Shooter´s work, so I´m gonna let this one slide on the grounds of Possession by Yellow Fear Monster. :p

rwe1138

10-10-2007, 11:40 PM

George and Bob are artists, so I wouldn't assign them too much blame here. There was one panel of tasteful nudity, not counting the fact that it involved paradoxical time travel incest. And I'm not sure that Layton ever worked on the Avengers.

I'm just reprinting the credits from comics.org.

David O Burcham

10-11-2007, 12:26 AM

I´ve always loved Jim Shooter´s work, so I´m gonna let this one slide on the grounds of Possession by Yellow Fear Monster. :p

Shooter was EIC when Claremont salvaged the Marcus/Ms. Marvel story, so Big Jim knew he had brain-farted on that one.

Perez was the artist on issue #200, not a writer.

SUPERECWFAN1

10-11-2007, 12:39 AM

I'm not sure why this particular subplot was green-lighted for ZERO HOUR when everybody recognized it as being so bad that it was abandoned immediately thereafter. DC should have known going into ZERO HOUR that this idea was a nonstarter, shouldn't it? If not, DC wouldn't have abandoned it so quickly.

Buried Alien (The Fastest Post Alive!)

DC seemed intent on making Equinox a new hot villain. Its just that odds are some in DC I'm sure felt a bit icky about him as a charactor and decided to limbo he should go right after doing it.

J. Robb

10-11-2007, 02:42 PM

I was actually kind of annoyed when they did the "instant age" and write-off of Power Girl's kid. She's always been a great character, but has never been able to find her niche. I thought a "single mom" aspect could really set her apart from the Supergirls and Wonder Womans of the hero world.

That said, I'm in no way advocating bringing the kid back.

Cardinal!

10-12-2007, 03:23 PM

Lorendiac

10-12-2007, 08:14 PM

While I don't really care one way or another at this point, I'm not really a big fan of pretending things didn't happen, no matter how bad of a story it was. It can always be redeemed later on by the right writer (IMO). Power Girl as a mother wasn't the worst idea in the world, although the concept of "Equinox" definitely did need work.

I disagree with your general philosophy. Some stories are so incredibly bad, such troublesome headache-inducers for everyone who tries to make sense of them later, that the kindest thing to do is to put those stories out of their misery with a quick bullet to the head and say, "That story never happened. Sorry we wasted your time with it, folks!"

Although I also tend to feel that a good editor would make sure such an incredibly lame story never got published in the first place -- or, failing that, he'd make sure it had "Elseworlds" or some other disclaimer on it that could make it crystal-clear to any concerned readers that the story was not meant to affect the main continuity of the characters in any way, shape, or form.

Captain Mobra

10-16-2007, 08:04 AM

I remember reading on Wikipedia and introducing the situation to a friend on MSN messenger.

"Apparently a long time ago Power Girl had a magical-pregnancy-baby that'll probably come back to bite everybody in the ass."

Jolly Mon

10-16-2007, 09:28 AM

Both storylines should serve as a lesson to comic writers for all time: if your plot can reasonably described using terms like "magical-pregnancy-baby" or "paradoxical time travel incest" then it should be abandoned immediately and you should consider truck driving school.