FNSM #24: One More Day Part 2

[Mister Mets]

Newsarama has the first seven pages to the last issue of Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man, and the second chapter of "One More Day"

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=131688

Big change in direction, and things are moving very quickly.

[The Confessor]

Very interesting. Thanks for the link Cyberman!

OK, first thing...can someone tell me why Dr. Strange's house has all the window's boarded up? I know it's been like this for quite some time...I've seen it like this in other books...but I have no idea how or why it happened?

Second thing...Dr. Strange talks about how his hands were shattered a long time ago. Well, weren't they recently totally mangled in World War Hulk too? A fact that seems to have been forgotten by JMS.

And third thing...on the first page it says that thanks to Jarvis, Aunt May is being moved out of the charity ward. Errrr...was she ever in the charity ward? I thought that in Part 1 of this story the Doctor told Peter and MJ that if they couldn't come up with some cash fast she would have to be moved to the charity ward. I don't recall her actually ever being put in there. :confused:

Anyway, enough nitpicking! As for what those seven preview pages show us, I'm slightly relieved to hear Dr. Strange warn or even forbid Peter to mess about with going back in time to stop the assassin from shooting Aunt May. Of course, due to other preview pages we've seen we know that actually, somehow Peter will get to travel back in time to see the events leading up to the shooting. Although it's as a disembodied, floating spirit - watching things happen but unable to interact with anyone. So, there's still plenty of reason for us pro-marriage people to be nervous.

Joe Quesada's art is still looking pretty good in this issue and it was a nice touch on J. Michael Straczynski's part to have Dr. Strange reveal to Peter that he didn't have long before Aunt May dies. That racks the tension & sense of urgency up nicely for the rest of the story. :)

Overall, I'm excited about these pages. I can't wait to get my hands on this issue and read the rest of it. Although I'm gonna be on the edge of my seat while I'm doing it.

[Red Lotus]

I just dont know why JMS just didn't have Peter go right in the house. They are one the same team. Its like JMS didn't even know they were on the same team.

Very interesting. Thanks for the link Cyberman!

OK, first thing...can someone tell me why Dr. Strange's house has all the window's boarded up? I know it's been like this for quite some time...I've seen it like this in other books...but I have no idea how or why it happened?
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Since Strange help the New Avengers he made his house look like that to trick Iron Man

[jade_nova]

OK, first thing...can someone tell me why Dr. Strange's house has all the window's boarded up? I know it's been like this for quite some time...I've seen it like this in other books...but I have no idea how or why it happened?


Dr. Strange is too cheap to get his windows fixed.

[Brian M.]

I'm starting to think May ain't dieing. I think One More Day is that he gets one more day to spend w/ his Aunt, that she tells him it's not his fault. Closure.

[RabidWolfe]

I think it's rather clear is "One more day" = "One last night of nookie with MJ before her memory of the marriage goes bye bye"

Of course, not that it matters since I'm not the editor, but if the marriage goes, so do I. I'm sure other fans will be elated, but I will stop reading spider-man until the marriage comes back.

I did a similar thing when Spidey was a clone.

[Toboe]

Finally the story is moving forward. But jeez, how much of Peter Parker's reckless self-centered arrogant whiny self do we have to endure?

And someone should tell JMS that Spider-Man and Doctor Strange are on the same Avengers team now...

[juaschwd]

I think it's rather clear is "One more day" = "One last night of nookie with MJ before her memory of the marriage goes bye bye"

Of course, not that it matters since I'm not the editor, but if the marriage goes, so do I. I'm sure other fans will be elated, but I will stop reading spider-man until the marriage comes back.



I agree tottally. Im a huge Mary Jane fan. To me Peter is not Peter without MJ. I started collecting comics with Spiderman more than 13 years ago and I will stop collecting when the marriage ends. Start back up when they get back together.

[Mister Mets]

Very interesting. Thanks for the link Cyberman!

OK, first thing...can someone tell me why Dr. Strange's house has all the window's boarded up? I know it's been like this for quite some time...I've seen it like this in other books...but I have no idea how or why it happened?

Second thing...Dr. Strange talks about how his hands were shattered a long time ago. Well, weren't they recently totally mangled in World War Hulk too? A fact that seems to have been forgotten by JMS.

And third thing...on the first page it says that thanks to Jarvis, Aunt May is being moved out of the charity ward. Errrr...was she ever in the charity ward? I thought that in Part 1 of this story the Doctor told Peter and MJ that if they couldn't come up with some cash fast she would have to be moved to the charity ward. I don't recall her actually ever being put in there. :confused:

Anyway, enough nitpicking! As for what those seven preview pages show us, I'm slightly relieved to hear Dr. Strange warn or even forbid Peter to mess about with going back in time to stop the assassin from shooting Aunt May. Of course, due to other preview pages we've seen we know that actually, somehow Peter will get to travel back in time to see the events leading up to the shooting. Although it's as a disembodied, floating spirit - watching things happen but unable to interact with anyone. So, there's still plenty of reason for us pro-marriage people to be nervous.

Joe Quesada's art is still looking pretty good in this issue and it was a nice touch on J. Michael Straczynski's part to have Dr. Strange reveal to Peter that he didn't have long before Aunt May dies. That racks the tension & sense of urgency up nicely for the rest of the story. :)

Overall, I'm excited about these pages. I can't wait to get my hands on this issue and read the rest of it. Although I'm gonna be on the edge of my seat while I'm doing it.
JMS's Amazing Spider-Man seems to exist in a different world than any of the other "Back in Black" tie-ins. The notice in Issue One that it had been a few days since Civil War ended is a big indication of this.

To be fair, I'm sure the Doctor Strange scenes were written long before the World War Hulk scene, in which case this particular discrepancy is not JMS's fault.

The charity ward thing's a vaguely embarrassing mistake. I can't even defend it as Peter being glad that Aunt May's no longer in the situation of being placed in the charity ward. Maybe she was moved there while Peter went to visit Tony in the first part?

[The Confessor]

JMS's Amazing Spider-Man seems to exist in a different world than any of the other "Back in Black" tie-ins. The notice in Issue One that it had been a few days since Civil War ended is a big indication of this.

To be fair, I'm sure the Doctor Strange scenes were written long before the World War Hulk scene, in which case this particular discrepancy is not JMS's fault.

A-ha! So, if it said in Part 1 of OMD that Civil War had only just ended (something I obviously missed) then these events are taking place prior to World War Hulk, which explains why Dr. Strange's hands haven't been mangled (again) yet.

Thanks Cyberman, that was all I needed to hear! :)

[xarathos]

Everything in this series is forced now. We have to unmask SPidey because we need a gimmick for Civil War #2. We have to have him have him in four different books even though that doesn't make sense seeing the situation he's in. WE have to put Aunt May in peril. We have to undo all the aforementioned things so we can do a magical retcon because the EIC doesn't like the marraige.

[Rahul]

The only thing wrong with the preview is that Dr Stange and Spidey were being way too formal for team mates. And heck, why the other Avengers weren't present? Oh well, Spidey has to hold a story himself sometimes. Unlikeable, but unavoidable.

[Mister Mets]

Anyone detect anything significant about the title "The Other Side of Darkness"?

[Your Imaginary Pal]

This going from one smart guy to another to solve a problem reminds me too much of the Other.
Well it seems to veer into a mystical realm, but geez.
I'll give this one a read, but i may just be 2 out of five for this arc for me.

[Blader5489]

Anyone detect anything significant about the title "The Other Side of Darkness"?

I think I read somewhere that JMS had planned on doing a Dr. Strange mini called "The Other Side of Darkness" but it didn't pan out. I guess this issue's title is a nod to that.

[Mister Mets]

I think I read somewhere that JMS had planned on doing a Dr. Strange mini called "The Other Side of Darkness" but it didn't pan out. I guess this issue's title is a nod to that.
If I remember right, his first JMS Amazing Spider-Man appearance Doctor Strange had mentioned an appointment with death he was supposed to have in the mini-series in. Perhaps, that's going to come into play here, especially as this story involves Peter traveling "through the tides of space & time."

There's a theory on the Bendis Boards that it could also be a nod to an episode of Seinfeld, where Kramer saw a movie called "The Other Side of Farkness" about a woman put on life support, and makes sure his doctor knows "Do not resuscitate." Then Kramer watches the end of the movie, where the woman recovers, and changes his mind.

http://www.606studios.com/bendisboard/showthread.php?t=129232

[Magneto Rocks]

I don't think JMS, the writer of Amazing Spider-Man which is after all the premier Spider-Man book, should be forced to change his writing and his plans to accomodate those of another guy who is hellbent on having Spidey in his own book. ESPECIALLY when Bendis totally ignores how Spidey acts in any book other than his own anyway. If anything, Bendis should have been made to change HIS.

[Mister Mets]

Joe Quesada describes the breakdown of one spread at Wizardworld's website.
http://www.wizarduniverse.com/magazine/wizard/006092289.cfm

He describes this spread, specially the character who will appear in the blank panels.
http://wizarduniverse.com/_images_/006092/SPM2PAGE%208-9.jpg
It's an eclectic list, including Doctor Doom, Dead Girl, Doctor Octopus, Curt Connors, Morbius, Reed Richards, Beast, Yellowjacket, Black Panther, Storm, Night Nurse and the Wizard.

Some spoilers...

The multiple Spider-Men images in the top left corner of the spread “convey that fact the Peter is visiting all the corners of the Marvel Universe—both heroes and villains—to try and determine if there is a way to help [Aunt] May,” explained Quesada. “According to the script, Spider-Man splits his consciousness and is able to visit all these places at the same time.”

The next step truly put Quesada’s pencil to the limit. The artist created 12 panels, each with Spider-Man interacting with a different character from the Marvel Universe in his search for a cure. “[These are] the characters that have been involved in all the magical and scientific extremes in the Marvel Universe,” explains Quesada. “These are the people that he has access to, [and] can possibly help. Sometimes, misery makes for strange bedfellows, so [Spider-Man will] find himself in front of people like Doc Ock and Doctor Doom and characters of that ilk.”

Favorite images...
http://wizarduniverse.com/_images_/006092/SPIDER-MAN2PAGE7-8C.jpg

http://wizarduniverse.com/_images_/006092/SPIDER-MAN2PAGE7-8A.jpg

I could see why Joe Quesada was #1 on Wizard's Top ten artists list. http://www.wizarduniverse.com/magazine/wizard/005427820.cfm

[The Confessor]

http://wizarduniverse.com/_images_/006092/SPIDER-MAN2PAGE7-8A.jpg

I could see why Joe Quesada was #1 on Wizard's Top ten artists list.

This Dr. Doom panel looks awesome...can't wait to see it all finished and coloured properly.

I don't know about Joe Quesada's art though, sometimes it looks awesome but then a few panels later it just kinda leaves me cold. I feel he lacks consistancy of quality is what I'm trying to say I guess.

[Schmakt]

sometimes I think his panel-to-panel flow is a bit ackward, but the man can definitely draw. I love those pencils; they all look great. :)

I won't comment on the story...

[frog]

When I read the solicit I thought that the plot seems remarkably like Beast's quest in Endangered Species, except that Spiderman is getting it all done in one fell swoop.

[Kefky]

I think the title might be a Seinfeld reference, actually.

[xarathos]

I think the title might be a Seinfeld reference, actually.


'The Other Side of Midnight' was a book. Then there was a movie based on the book. Funny little movie history there.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Other_Side_of_Midnight

[Crimson]

The art looks a little more polished then the last issue too... which is good. I was disapointed with the last issue.

[Mister Mets]

Just got my hands on the actual issue. Bought it at 2:45 PM, and it was the last copy in stock. A good sign for Marvel.

They're charging an extra buck for 16 pages of new content, including the Marvel Handbook Mary Jane profile, some reprint material from Amazing Spider-Man #259 and a layout for Joe Q's pencils. It's decent stuff, but I think Marvel would have been wiser to release "One More Day" in two versions: A $3.99 with the supplemental material/ Joe Q covers, and a $2.99 version without the supplemental material, with the Marko Djurdevik covers (which would have been perfect for a barebones version.) On the other hand, as this book's going to sell very well, Marvel stands to make a lot of money by charging a dollar more for each chapter.

As for the content...
This issue's faster paced than before (and the last issue despite some complaints was not uneventful.) I love Quesada's Doctor Strange, and his Spider-Man. Spidey's guilt over why Aunt May was hurt is perfect, and addresses the question some fans had about why this hurt Spider-Man so much. Spider-Man's pain when no one can help him is impressive. His familiarity with latin works well. The Necrophagus Nightstalkers are impressive monsters. Spider-Man's inability to stop May from getting shot makes for a great scene, and plays off a small moment in the Civil War tie-in. Reminds me of some time travel stories from Babylon 5, and Grant Morrison's Animal Man run. It was also pretty cool to have Spider-Man see the scene where Doctor Strange had the appointment with death in Amazing Spider-Man Volume 2 #42 (the appointment with Death being advertised as occurring in a Doctor Strange mini-series entitled 'The Other Side of Darkness') Doctor Strange's advice: telling Peter to say his good-byes was a great moment.

The strange girl at the end made for an effective cliffhanger.

9/10

[CMBMOOL]

Man, are little girls evil or what. :(

[jmacleodpc19]

I expected a much louder response on here to the ending of the issue.

[stillanerd]

I expected a much louder response on here to the ending of the issue.

Probably because many have a pretty good idea just how the little girl (*cough*Mephisto*cough) is going to help Spidey save his Aunt May. See the CBG article that Cyberman posted and the Lying the Gutters Column picked up on.

[Michael P]

Bored now.

[Shade 20x6]

So far, so predictable.

2 issues left before Spider-Man is officially ruined.

[Mister Mets]

Probably because many have a pretty good idea just how the little girl (*cough*Mephisto*cough) is going to help Spidey save his Aunt May. See the CBG article that Cyberman posted and the Lying the Gutters Column picked up on.
It makes a lot of sense, but the individual you reference hasn't appeared in JMS's Spider-Man book yet (that we know of......)

That kinda contradicts how JMS loves setting stuff up (his first issue of Amazing Spider-Man referenced the problems with the suit, which led to the creation of the future Spider-Man in Amazing #500.)

[CMBMOOL]

Probably because many have a pretty good idea just how the little girl (*cough*Mephisto*cough) is going to help Spidey save his Aunt May. See the CBG article that Cyberman posted and the Lying the Gutters Column picked up on.

Then that would be a weird situtation due to the fact that although we are getting light-hearted Spider-man tales, it could all be a lie thanks to Mephisto.

So either way Spider-man is now living a cursed live under the disguise of Brand New Day. :(

[stingerman]

This whole mystic angle is a little weird. But I guess it just shows how far Pete is willing to go. Anybody else notice that Doc Strange was in a ton of comics this week?

[spidervenom]

I liked this issue. I just hope peter doesnt destroy his marrage just so may can live for like 2 more years.

[stillanerd]

It makes a lot of sense, but the individual you reference hasn't appeared in JMS's Spider-Man book yet (that we know of......)

That kinda contradicts how JMS loves setting stuff up (his first issue of Amazing Spider-Man referenced the problems with the suit, which led to the creation of the future Spider-Man in Amazing #500.)

Well, perhaps in the next issue, in order to "stack the deck" as it were, the the little red-headed girl (and come now, while were not told who "she" is per see, I'll lay good money on her being Marvel's version of the devil in disguise shows Spidey a vision of his future as shown in ASM #500 and how Aunt May's death would not only effect him but Mary Jane, their son, and others. Thus suggesting that sacrificing his marriage to save his Aunt May would be a noble gesture, not only for Aunt May but for everyone he loves. At least that's my guess.

Then that would be a weird situtation due to the fact that although we are getting light-hearted Spider-man tales, it could all be a lie thanks to Mephisto.

So either way Spider-man is now living a cursed live under the disguise of Brand New Day.:(

That's an interesting way to look at it. After all, as Hamlet once said, "the devil haft power to assume a pleasing shape."

[Harold of the Rocks]

Whether or not the little girl is Mestipho or not... I think that the girl is either the likeness of or the 'real', time-displaced childhood Mary Jane Watson.

That to me makes an even more powerful image for Peter, and could suggest that his solution to saving May would involve a major altering of that character's life by changing Mary Jane's past! This might also affect how she may or may not become Jackpot, as any changes to her past (maybe her and Peter never meet, or something like that) would affect her future -- our current present. Maybe it is a time-displaced MJ (by Mephisto, who was 'watching' what Pete was doing with Strange)... who is making an offer of herself (with Mephisto's influence). Maybe it's just a red-headed girl though, and I am overthinking it. ;)

And who was it that mentioned the dove we have seen in these issues? It is reddish in color, we see it by Spidey at the beginning of the book... and again just before 'she' appears... and it is reddish in color!! Whoever posted that before... I think you are onto something... or on something... maybe even both!

I enjoyed this book, but agree on Quesada's consistency. Some of this book -- actually most of it -- is gorgeous. Then there are some panels that just... ugh. The layouts and borders involving Dr. Strange are really nice, something I thought worked really well. To make an analogy about Joe Q's work (one he might even enjoy, being a musician of sorts)... it has such an intensity about it, like a PRS guitar in Carlos Santana's hands... when he's on, it is so mesmerizing, it commands your attention. But, when he hits a 'bad note', when he's off (a rarity for Santanta, a bit more common for Joe Q)... everyone notices that as well. If ya get my drift. That's how it is with me, anyway.

It's weird, Spidey's my favorite character, and I still don't have a real strong opinion on the potential shakeup we all expect. I think the execution of the idea is the deal-breaker for me on this. I've read good stories before and after the marriage... so, I know good ones can be told however this ends. I think JMS has done some really good storytelling with Pete's core family... some really powerful and gripping tales focusing on this trio (Pete, MJ, and May). I guess I'm saying that I can see this being good or bad and how we get there being more important than the outcome for me.

[agirlyman]

So far, so predictable.

2 issues left before Spider-Man is officially ruined.

Never happen gonna happen, "Waaah" go read "Superman", people are getting on my nerves talking about they are doing to stop collecting spiderman if aunt may dies, or Mary Jane leaves. Please just collect "DC" comics, Marvel is just too advanced for you, better yet just sit tight until marvel comes out with "Amazing Aunt may", or "Mary Jane adventures". I will read, and collect Spiderman comics, as long as Peter Parker is Spiderman.

[CMBMOOL]

That to me makes an even more powerful image for Peter, and could suggest that his solution to saving May would involve a major altering of that character's life by changing Mary Jane's past! This might also affect how she may or may not become Jackpot, as any changes to her past (maybe her and Peter never meet, or something like that) would affect her future -- our current present. Maybe it is a time-displaced MJ (by Mephisto, who was 'watching' what Pete was doing with Strange)... who is making an offer of herself (with Mephisto's influence). Maybe it's just a red-headed girl though, and I am overthinking it. ;)



I already thought of that theory, and it could be a possibility within the next two issues. :(

[Harold of the Rocks]

Never happen gonna happen, "Waaah" go read "Superman", people are getting on my nerves talking about they are doing to stop collecting spiderman if aunt may dies, or Mary Jane leaves. Please just collect "DC" comics, Marvel is just too advanced for you, better yet just sit tight until marvel comes out with "Amazing Aunt may", or "Mary Jane adventures". I will read, and collect Spiderman comics, as long as Peter Parker is Spiderman.I've already stated how I don't have a strong opinion either way yet. I don't undertand why you would be intolerant of those that do have a strong opinion contrary to yours. They want to buy Spider-Man. They want good stories to be told with this character because they care about him. On that I think just about everyone on this thread can agree... or they wouldn't waste their time here.

If we all get to indulge in what gets on our nerves... people posting "go read Superman if you don't like it" is up there for me. In fact, if that's all that one has to offer, I would rather they not post at all. One is not a 'better' or 'more advanced' fan simply because they will 'always' buy something given the absolute minimal criteria (Pete is Spider-Man). In fact, quite the opposite, one could easily argue.
I already thought of that theory, and it could be a possibility within the next two issues. :(You already thought that I could be full of it? Go buy the T-shirt. Take a number. Get in line. You don't have to wait two issues to learn that. ;)

[Poor_Pingoy]

When got the comic,for some reason i looked at the last page at once..and I saw a kid,the 1st thing I thought of was,its Peter and Mj's kid!!! but when I read it thru..I have no idea who she is,well could be mephisto..

[Mister Mets]

Never happen gonna happen, "Waaah" go read "Superman", people are getting on my nerves talking about they are doing to stop collecting spiderman if aunt may dies, or Mary Jane leaves. Please just collect "DC" comics, Marvel is just too advanced for you, better yet just sit tight until marvel comes out with "Amazing Aunt may", or "Mary Jane adventures". I will read, and collect Spiderman comics, as long as Peter Parker is Spiderman.
I agree completely with you.
Who said they'll quit reading the comics if Aunt May dies?


Well, perhaps in the next issue, in order to "stack the deck" as it were, the the little red-headed girl (and come now, while were not told who "she" is per see, I'll lay good money on her being Marvel's version of the devil in disguise shows Spidey a vision of his future as shown in ASM #500 and how Aunt May's death would not only effect him but Mary Jane, their son, and others. Thus suggesting that sacrificing his marriage to save his Aunt May would be a noble gesture, not only for Aunt May but for everyone he loves. At least that's my guess.

My argument is that it would be uncharacteristic for the kid to turn out to be Mephisto, because there has been no reference to the character throughout JMS's run. Granted, I could have easily missed a few details. Hell, JMS could reveal that Mephisto gave the Shade the book that gave him his powers (in Amazing Spider-Man Volume 2 #40-42) in which case the villain would have had a role in the JMS Spider-Man run since the beginning.

[EC1231]

I'm 90% sure that Aunt May's going to survive but immediately afterwards die of a heart attack.

[Red Lotus]

My argument is that it would be uncharacteristic for the kid to turn out to be Mephisto, because there has been no reference to the character throughout JMS's run. Granted, I could have easily missed a few details. Hell, JMS could reveal that Mephisto gave the Shade the book that gave him his powers (in Amazing Spider-Man Volume 2 #40-42) in which case the villain would have had a role in the JMS Spider-Man run since the beginning.


The perfect way to fix that is to say it was that person who sent the mystical things who Spider-man has been fighting in JMS run. Just say that they have been at war with the Spider-god.

[xmanson]

Is that little May?

[agirlyman]

I've already stated how I don't have a strong opinion either way yet. I don't undertand why you would be intolerant of those that do have a strong opinion contrary to yours. They want to buy Spider-Man. They want good stories to be told with this character because they care about him. On that I think just about everyone on this thread can agree... or they wouldn't waste their time here.

If we all get to indulge in what gets on our nerves... people posting "go read Superman if you don't like it" is up there for me. In fact, if that's all that one has to offer, I would rather they not post at all. One is not a 'better' or 'more advanced' fan simply because they will 'always' buy something given the absolute minimal criteria (Pete is Spider-Man). In fact, quite the opposite, one could easily argue.
You already thought that I could be full of it? Go buy the T-shirt. Take a number. Get in line. You don't have to wait two issues to learn that. ;)


I'm just sick and tired of all the bitching and moaning, if you can't stick with Spiderman through the bad times, and only for the good times who the hell needs you. Every mag can't have great art, great story, and be perfect every issue, boo stinkin hoo. Nobody's twisting your arm to buy a bad issue or storyline of any mag, but how can you even consider yourself a fan of Spiderman, if a story line comes along you don't like, you say you're done with the mag.

Save your tears, buy "Archie" comics, and stop crying lil babies.

[Shade 20x6]

Never happen gonna happen, "Waaah" go read "Superman", people are getting on my nerves talking about they are doing to stop collecting spiderman if aunt may dies, or Mary Jane leaves. Please just collect "DC" comics, Marvel is just too advanced for you, better yet just sit tight until marvel comes out with "Amazing Aunt may", or "Mary Jane adventures". I will read, and collect Spiderman comics, as long as Peter Parker is Spiderman.

Hey, if you enjoy spending your money on uncreative garbage, who am I to argue?

I'm just sick and tired of all the bitching and moaning, if you can't stick with Spiderman through the bad times, and only for the good times who the hell needs you. Every mag can't have great art, great story, and be perfect every issue, boo stinkin hoo. Nobody's twisting your arm to buy a bad issue or storyline of any mag, but how can you even consider yourself a fan of Spiderman, if a story line comes along you don't like, you say you're done with the mag.

Save your tears, buy "Archie" comics, and stop crying lil babies.


I stuck around through the Clone Saga, Maximum Carnage, Sins Past, The Other, etc., so don't start with this "you're a bandwagon fan" nonsense. I'll be damned if I'm going to let JQ and JMS say "the last 20 years didn't count" and STILL shell out money to start all over again. Screw that crap. That's a colossal slap in the face.

[jackolover]

Probably because many have a pretty good idea just how the little girl (*cough*Mephisto*cough) is going to help Spidey save his Aunt May. See the CBG article that Cyberman posted and the Lying the Gutters Column picked up on.

I couldn't see the CBG link. What number post is it?

[Harold of the Rocks]

I'm just sick and tired of all the bitching and moaning,..

Save your tears, buy "Archie" comics, and stop crying lil babies.
Yeah, bitching and moaning about bitching and moaning is "taking the high road", isn't it? And so interesting.

I think it's ridiculous and even disengenious when some people post that "they are through" with a book. I find it annoying on occasion, myself. Of course they always aren't. Calling them a baby only reflects poorly on yourself, however. You aren't going to shame someone into buying something they don't want, and nobody's buying the bravado and tough guy talk, either. The only thing you are accomplishing is looking like a... well you're the expert at calling names, choose from your long list.

Say something good about the comic if you want to show someone they shouldn't give up on it. Or if you don't care, why bother posting? Seems like you're just here to taunt people and make yourself feel better than others. Talk about the book. I know I'm done posting about crybabies, whatever form they take.

[Joe-Dono]

I will read, and collect Spiderman comics, as long as Peter Parker is Spiderman.

Same here, still interested on where One More Day will end up.

[Poor_Pingoy]

Is that little May?

thats the first thing that crossed my mind...Its like te only polt thread that has yet to be resolved from the Spidey books,if they really want a "fresh" start for Spidey,they should resolve also whatever happened to Peter and Mjs kid

[Venom]

I thought it was a really good issue. I love Joe Q's art and he draws one good Doctor Strange. I think it was clever what JMS did connecting this to a previous Spidey story he did. I can't wait for the next part. I want to know who that girl is.

[jwd]

For me MJ and Aunt May aren't essential to the story. What's essential to me is they're respectful of the character's history. I know there's stories best left forgotten but if the marriage is wiped from existance the character won't be the same to me. I won't feel anymore loyalty to Amazing as I do Ultimate. He'll just be another version of Spider-Man to me.

[CMBMOOL]

I



My argument is that it would be uncharacteristic for the kid to turn out to be Mephisto, because there has been no reference to the character throughout JMS's run. Granted, I could have easily missed a few details. Hell, JMS could reveal that Mephisto gave the Shade the book that gave him his powers (in Amazing Spider-Man Volume 2 #40-42) in which case the villain would have had a role in the JMS Spider-Man run since the beginning.


Well who know is this person would want to use Spider-man to his/her own intentions ? :(

[DoctorDoom]

Saaaaay...Isn't Spidey owed a favor by both Doctor Doom AND Loki?

[SpideyZERO]

Something I don't understand is, why no one can heal Aunt May? All those geniuses in the Marvel Universe can do nothing to heal an old lady with a gunshot wound? I mean, it's not like she's infected with world's most dangerous new virus or anything....

[Ramiel]

I stuck around through the Clone Saga, Maximum Carnage, Sins Past, The Other, etc., so don't start with this "you're a bandwagon fan" nonsense. I'll be damned if I'm going to let JQ and JMS say "the last 20 years didn't count" and STILL shell out money to start all over again. Screw that crap. That's a colossal slap in the face.

I agree, I don't mind a retcon here or there to improve something, but to do a retcon of the scale we're talking about is ridiculous. Especially when it's matter that I feel doesn't need to be changed or, at the very least, not in this form.

[Floyd The Barber]

It's funny. CBR is benefiting from this from me but not Marvel. I'm really curious about this story, but I refuse to pay for it. Let me know when it's over. I really haven't enjoyed MJ that much since the days of Saviuk and McFarlane anyway. I'm positive NO WAY they will retcon this will make sense, but I'm a STRONG believer in the ENDS JUSTIFYING THE MEANS!

[Dr. Chaos]

Thats a shamer..

I was so hoping that would be Loki on the last page, though Mephisto probably fits the dirty deal incentive going on a lil better here.

[Funkdmonkey]

I find it hard to believe the X-men couldn't help when they have Elixer on their team...

[stillanerd]

I couldn't see the CBG link. What number post is it?

How about the Lying in the Gutters article instead (Which has the scan from the page of the Comic Book Buyers Guide in question)?

http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/index.cgi?column=litg&article=2889

My argument is that it would be uncharacteristic for the kid to turn out to be Mephisto, because there has been no reference to the character throughout JMS's run. Granted, I could have easily missed a few details. Hell, JMS could reveal that Mephisto gave the Shade the book that gave him his powers (in Amazing Spider-Man Volume 2 #40-42) in which case the villain would have had a role in the JMS Spider-Man run since the beginning.


Well, that is what retconning is for, after all, so that the writer can go back and say that the character's presence was there all along.

However, here's something else that stuck my attention. With regards to the mystical aspect that JMS attributed to Spider-Man, there's been references, via Ezekiel I believe, towards Anansi the West African folk hero who was not only represented as a spider, but was also a trickster--kind of like a certain webhead. You may remember that Anasai was also more recently popularized by Neil Gaiman in his novel "American Gods" and it's offshoot "Anasai Boys." Well, in "Anasai Boys," Gaiman tells an "Anasai story" about Anasai playing a joke on the "Bird Woman" and how it "explains" why Birds and Spiders are "no longer friends." Without giving too much away, there's a point in the novel where the "Bird Woman" in the novel provides "help" to one of Anasai sons in exchange for something else (again, I won't say what it is for those who haven't read the book). Well, what have been flying around Spidey so far? Birds. And of all the forms that reddish piegon took, it choose a girl. Hints of, not only a resemblance to a preteen Mary Jane, but a reference towards the "Bird Woman?" Also, some birds are a spider's natural predator. Perhaps I'm reading too much into it but I wouldn't be surprised if JMS was implying something along those lines.

[Dr. Chaos]

It certainly does sound like something JMS would do.

I think you could genuinely be onto something.

[jackolover]

How about the Lying in the Gutters article instead (Which has the scan from the page of the Comic Book Buyers Guide in question)?

http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/index.cgi?column=litg&article=2889


None of that scan specifically says Mephisto, just that Peter is to make a deal. To let May live, he has to give up all other things he loves.

That could also mean, if he wants Baby May back, he has to give up MJ and all love. It may be as simple as the orphange calls and tells Peter we have your daughter, we know where she is, but you just have no access to her, only MJ does, and if MJ wants her daughter, she has to cut all ties to Spiderman.

[Billy Parker]

I'm loving One More Day. Quesada and JMS are doing great!

I think it's baby Mary Jane from another universe and she can make it so that Peter never met Mary Jane, therefore no marriage, no Aunt May getting shot. Then I want MJ to get powers of her own.

[stillanerd]

None of that scan specifically says Mephisto, just that Peter is to make a deal. To let May live, he has to give up all other things he loves.

That could also mean, if he wants Baby May back, he has to give up MJ and all love. It may be as simple as the orphange calls and tells Peter we have your daughter, we know where she is, but you just have no access to her, only MJ does, and if MJ wants her daughter, she has to cut all ties to Spiderman.

I never said that about the scan. Merely that it's very likely that the "little girl" will give Spidey that very deal in part 3 and that the girl in question was Mephisto in disguise. Speculation based upon what JMS himself told would be the crux of his story. That's all.

[Mister Mets]

Well, that is what retconning is for, after all, so that the writer can go back and say that the character's presence was there all along.

However, here's something else that stuck my attention. With regards to the mystical aspect that JMS attributed to Spider-Man, there's been references, via Ezekiel I believe, towards Anansi the West African folk hero who was not only represented as a spider, but was also a trickster--kind of like a certain webhead. You may remember that Anasai was also more recently popularized by Neil Gaiman in his novel "American Gods" and it's offshoot "Anasai Boys." Well, in "Anasai Boys," Gaiman tells an "Anasai story" about Anasai playing a joke on the "Bird Woman" and how it "explains" why Birds and Spiders are "no longer friends." Without giving too much away, there's a point in the novel where the "Bird Woman" in the novel provides "help" to one of Anasai sons in exchange for something else (again, I won't say what it is for those who haven't read the book). Well, what have been flying around Spidey so far? Birds. And of all the forms that reddish piegon took, it choose a girl. Hints of, not only a resemblance to a preteen Mary Jane, but a reference towards the "Bird Woman?" Also, some birds are a spider's natural predator. Perhaps I'm reading too much into it but I wouldn't be surprised if JMS was implying something along those lines.
Given JMS, you may not be reading too much into the birds & spiders thing.

That's a pretty good eye.

[Mister Mets]

Looking over some JMS issues.

The Doctor Strange who appeared in Amazing Spider-Man Volume 2 #42 was the Doctor Strange of "One More Day" which makes his advice to Spider-Man to avoid leaving the path in the Astral realm more meaningful. It also creates a different subtext for his reaction to the nervous wisecracking Spider-Man, now that he knows how bad things will be for the hero (and it actually works that this Doctor Strange has some experience with this aspect of Spider-Man's personality in The New Avengers.) As the New Avengers (and Doctor Strange's role as member) weren't even gleams in Bendis's eye, this does mean that Doctor Strange's role in "One More Day" had nothing to do with his being on the same Avengers team as Spider-Man.

It also means that the Doctor Strange who contacted Spider-Man in Amazing Spider-Man Volume 2 #46 to warn him about the Shathra was the "One More Day" Doctor Strange. He can't come in person as "vital matters elsewhere have taken precedence" though it's worth noting that the Doctor Strange of "One More Day" left to go to his timestream soon after his first conversation with Spider-Man, which further complicates matters.

[Kefky]

Am I the only one who thinks that, after reading this issue, May SHOULDN'T be saved? I mean, Peter basically spends the entire issue acting like a stubborn little brat, saying that she NEEDS to her death isn't his fault. Isn't he dodging the whole responsibility issue here? Is OMD gonna have a horribly depressing ending where Peter sells his soul and loses MJ to say May...?

[DoctorDoom]

While I don;t like Petey's reaction and stubborness, I do look forward to see what deals he'll make.

[xmanson]

For such an event, I expected these OMD threads to be much busier.

[Pyro]

Immediate problems with the issue: New monster creatures are referred to as "Nightstalkers" on the cover, but as "Nightwalkers" within.

The recall to issue 42... doesn't quite work.

Spider-Man and Strange acting as if he doesn't pop by the Sanctum Sanctorum all the time now that it's their base as Avengers.

I'm sticking around for OMD to see what happens and how JMS ties everything up, but I can't say I'm really enjoying it. May has been dying for at least twenty issues of various comics, and knowing that she probably won't even really die, it doesn't seem worth how dragged out it has been.

And the extras don't make these issues worth $3.99. I can't stand that price increase. Next thing you know, they'll be selling 22 pg issues of ASM at that prices and they'll think we won't notice, or that we'll be used to that price. And I'll never get over that idiotic "Still only 399 cents" mark when it only became 3.99 at the start of this arc. You don't do that when something increases in price, you do it when something's cheaper than it should be. Unless they're trying to be funny--which they'd be failing at, while taking my money as well. *end rant*

[1WEBHEAD]

It was a good issue. Not a "page turner", but a good issue.

Joey Q's art ranges from AMAZING to okay. I really liked the way he played with his art and panels with the early Dr. Strange scene. Don't like the way he draws spidey's feet.

Better than last issue. I liked the bonus MJ comic at the end.

I think the little girl is Baby May Parker aka MJ's and Peter's kid but it's not impossible for her to be Mephisto in disguise.

4/5

[Bulky Brent]

I don't think Spider-Man will make a deal with the devil,Loki Maybe?( Loki Owes him a favor sort of).I really don't think he will fall to temptation from evil forces no matter what. Why do you think Uncle Ben has never been brought back to life? Cause he knows deep down bringing him back would negate everything he stands for.

I think what ever the out come Peter and MJ's marriage will probably come to an end, but the love they have for eachother will still be there.

I think the little girl is Baby May Parker aka MJ's and Peter's kid but it's not impossible for her to be Mephisto in disguise.
I really don't see why this little girl could Loki or Mephisto in disguise offering to help Peter but really messing him over in the end. She even does look a little creepy.

[Ramiel]

I don't think Spider-Man will make a deal with the devil,Loki Maybe?( Loki Owes him a favor sort of).I really don't think he will fall to temptation from evil forces no matter what. Why do you think Uncle Ben has never been brought back to life? Cause he knows deep down bringing him back would negate everything he stands for.

Well, since they would be in disguise he may not know what he's doing until it's too late or he may never know and could be part of a much bigger plan for Loki or Mephisto or whoever.

I also really doubt it's Peters and MJs long lost kid, I mean, how would she have any knowledge of how to 'help' or why would she considering this is probably a huge retcon and it would most likely wipe her existence from the face of the MU. Unless it's just a memory wipe, but that would've actually help Aunt May.

Overall, the issue wasn't too bad but I felt little was actually accomplished except exactly what was expected, Spidey can't do a thing. I don't really care much for the art myself, not terrible but not my cup o' tea.

Anyway, I'll see OMD till the end, but if the internet rumors are true and we see a 20 year retcon, I really don't see myself following through on BND. I'll keep up with through spoliers and if I hear good things I'll pick it up again, but I just don't care much for the idea of such a huge retcon, personally.

[Rix]

Just read it today...

Am I the only one who thinks that, after reading this issue, May SHOULDN'T be saved? I mean, Peter basically spends the entire issue acting like a stubborn little brat, saying that she NEEDS to her death isn't his fault. Isn't he dodging the whole responsibility issue here? Is OMD gonna have a horribly depressing ending where Peter sells his soul and loses MJ to say May...?

Pretty much my thoughts as well. Strange had some good points. Espescially the bit about telling Pete he should be at her side.

Pete should be thankful that he got his Aunt back for the time that he did and that she got to know him for the hero he is. I would have no problem with Aunt May passing. I mean, how many times has she been at death's door? I say keep MJ and get rid of May! Of course, that would age the character and we can't have that.

[Mister Mets]

Anyway, I'll see OMD till the end, but if the internet rumors are true and we see a 20 year retcon, I really don't see myself following through on BND. I'll keep up with through spoliers and if I hear good things I'll pick it up again, but I just don't care much for the idea of such a huge retcon, personally.
With Dan Slott & Steve McNiven doing the first three issues of Brand New Day, it'll be very likely that you'll hear good things.

I don't think Spider-Man will make a deal with the devil,Loki Maybe?( Loki Owes him a favor sort of).I really don't think he will fall to temptation from evil forces no matter what. Why do you think Uncle Ben has never been brought back to life? Cause he knows deep down bringing him back would negate everything he stands for.

I think what ever the out come Peter and MJ's marriage will probably come to an end, but the love they have for eachother will still be there.


I really don't see why this little girl could Loki or Mephisto in disguise offering to help Peter but really messing him over in the end. She even does look a little creepy.
Seems to me that the entire "Back in Black" story was about Spider-Man getting to the point where he would make a deal with the devil (though it could all lead to a great moment where he realizes that he should always do the right thing, even if things have never been worse.)

There would really be no reason for Loki to disguise himself as a little girl, given that Spider-Man did ask Doctor Doom/ Doctor Octopus/ The Wizard for help to save May. If Loki suddenly showed up, and said "I did owe you a favor" I think Peter would be happy to take it.

And now a month from now, it'll be revealed that the little girl is Loki, and my speculation is wrong.

[Joe Acro]

I really enjoyed this issue. I liked that JMS got around to explaining where Strange went in that prior story (since the supposed mini was never made). I liked his use of not allowing Spidey to change history or reality, even with magic. And him touching all on the various great minds of Marvel was neatly handled.

I only have one problem and one concern:

You'd think if he was going to take he trouble to write Latin into a book (and then translate it for our purposes), he'd write it correctly. It's a minor problem to be sure, but it bugged me.

Where have these Nightstalkers been? Given the amount of reality-warping and time-changing the Marvel universe has seen, these guys seem worse at their job than those spider things in Ultimate Fantastic Four. Maybe they don't handle those situations or something.

[Pyro]

Mostly, if Peter ends up making a deal with the devil, especially after having talked with God about this situation in the most recent SSM issue, it'll really drive home the fact that Peter is selfish and weak, which would make me lose a lot of respect for the character. That would be a great move by Marvel...

Argh. This is why I don't like to speculate. Usually, I'm like, "Who am I to know whether or not this'll turn out to be good," but I can't say anything about this idea sounds promising.

[Dr. Chaos]

Isn't that one of Peter's biggest traits in Marvel's eyes? That Peter is vulnerable and takes a licking physically and emotionally just like the rest of us? Hard to put into words but you get what I mean.

Peter is weak.

On the other hand, I'm praying that Peter doesn't find out the true nature of this dealmaker until shortly after the fact.

I'd like to think if Peter knew he would have to force someone else completely innocent and possibly important to him (hint, hint) to take a bullet (metaphorically) for May, that he wouldn't do it without their consent, or really at all.

I like where this is going, I haven't soured on OMD like alot of people but JMS has to be careful, this is the biggest line he's walked with the character so far.

[Pyro]

Peter's definitely vulnerable, and sensitive, but I wouldn't characterize him as weak. And what I was trying to get at without saying directly was that Peter would be turning from God, on his own volition and straight towards the devil. I'm hoping that doesn't happen because then I can't imagine him still being a hero in my eyes.

[Dr. Chaos]

It depends.

We've yet to see who this person is or what they present to Peter.

We, as the reader know nonthing good is coming from her but in Peter's state, depending on how she phrases the deal, could just be seen as an unforeseen magic solution, one thats not necessarily evil in nature.

It all depends on how good she is at playing the "well intentioned" savior game.

[Pyro]

I guess. That's why I hate speculating. I don't even know who that girl is. And apparently she gets old by the end of the story. Still, it's pretty dumb of Peter to keep searching for help even after God himself told him he wouldn't keep Aunt May alive. This entire storyline has been dumb.

[Magneto Rocks]

I guess. That's why I hate speculating. I don't even know who that girl is. And apparently she gets old by the end of the story. Still, it's pretty dumb of Peter to keep searching for help even after God himself told him he wouldn't keep Aunt May alive. This entire storyline has been dumb.

No, it's not dumb.

It's human nature.

[Lombardo!]

Nightstalkers = Nightwalkers really made me a bit pissy actually, and i really dont know why.
for a story that is being advertised as the most important in Spidey's history, i guess i would have expected better editing.
loved the art, how could you not?!
JMS writes well, but again, except for the final page, it's all stuff that's been covered by Back In Black. In fact, if Back In Black ended with the Mephisto-Jane girl, then One More Day could have started from there.

[rZi]

The artwork i thought was exceptional...i loved the use of symbols and what not in the doctor strange scenes but this story is moving really slow....

[CmX]

Although it makes sense Peter would go to Dr. Strange for help this issue just seemed like filler and nothing was accomplished and the story didn't move along. I kinda want my four bucks back. :(

[jackolover]

Peter is weak.



Yeah, Peter always panicks when his loved ones are concerned, and it's a weakness in him. It's whay he never wanted to reveal his identity and he was also too weak to resist the gile of Tonys point of view, either. I think that's why Peter always wants to be a loner, and not let too many people know who he is. He knows his faults, and he's let others overide his own instincts for self-preservation, and now he's paying for it. Nothing wrong with weakness, as long as you recognise your flaws and work within your limits. Peters now vulnerable, and it's made him extremely uncomfortable.

[RabidWolfe]

This story could go anywhere at this point. I'm glad that, at the very least, it's keeping me guessing.

Like I said, I dropped SM when the Clone Saga happened, and I'll drop it if the marriage goes. (I don't see how it is whining to say that. It's a statement of fact. I only have so much money and time, and I'm not interested in a non-married Peter. If I want that, I can go over to Ultimate Spider-Man or MA Spider-Man at any time).

But, I also think it's possible that maybe the marriage, if it does go, might only go for a year or two. Who knows?

[xmanson]

I just find that having such a big event in Peter's life be driven by magic mumbo jumbo is ridiculous.

[Pyro]

Well, Peter's life has been driven by magic mumbo jumbo since JMS started, which was a relatively looong time ago.

[xmanson]

Well, Peter's life has been driven by magic mumbo jumbo since JMS started, which was a relatively looong time ago.

Which was just as lame.

[Crimson]

This story could go anywhere at this point. I'm glad that, at the very least, it's keeping me guessing.

Like I said, I dropped SM when the Clone Saga happened, and I'll drop it if the marriage goes. (I don't see how it is whining to say that. It's a statement of fact. I only have so much money and time, and I'm not interested in a non-married Peter. If I want that, I can go over to Ultimate Spider-Man or MA Spider-Man at any time).

But, I also think it's possible that maybe the marriage, if it does go, might only go for a year or two. Who knows?

I'd say that's pretty fair. If you don't like a comic. You should drop it, vote with your dollar.

What is annoying is that alot of people who say "I'm dropping" for months... don't and then continue to complain.

[Funkdmonkey]

It almost feels like I'm reading the Endangered Species mini-series if anyone knows what I mean...

[DoctorDoom]

It almost feels like I'm reading the Endangered Species mini-series if anyone knows what I mean...
.....Yeah. That's an okay reference I guess.

[InsightfulOne99]

I agree with previous posters that based on the great conversation that Peter had with Doctor Strange in FNSM #24, that Peter will make a bad choice here and choose to save May's life in exchange for happiness with Mary Jane. Unfortunately, I think in the end he's going to lose both of them. May probably who will pass away from natural causes even if she's saved by Peter, and Mary Jane because of Peter's decision in the next few books.

That would seriously clear Peter's slate and leave open a brand new day for Peter to meet new people and develop new supporting characters and love interests.

[Mister Mets]

Which was just as lame.
But at this point you know what to expect from JMS.

I'd say that's pretty fair. If you don't like a comic. You should drop it, vote with your dollar.

What is annoying is that alot of people who say "I'm dropping" for months... don't and then continue to complain.
I find it odder when people who don't enjoy "One More Day" say they'll keep buying it, but if they don't like it, they won't but "Brand New Day."

Seems to me that if you don't enjoy "One More Day" it's a better idea to save your money for the first issue of Slott/ McNiven's three parter, as that will give you a better idea of what the next year of the Spider-Man books will be like than JMS's final tale on the title.

I guess. That's why I hate speculating. I don't even know who that girl is. And apparently she gets old by the end of the story. Still, it's pretty dumb of Peter to keep searching for help even after God himself told him he wouldn't keep Aunt May alive. This entire storyline has been dumb.
To be fair, the God story in Sensational Spider-Man #40 was written after "One More Day" so any contradictions are not JMS's fault. That story also never firmly established the identity of the individual Peter was conversing with.

[Mister Mets]

Nightstalkers = Nightwalkers really made me a bit pissy actually, and i really dont know why.
for a story that is being advertised as the most important in Spidey's history, i guess i would have expected better editing.
loved the art, how could you not?!
JMS writes well, but again, except for the final page, it's all stuff that's been covered by Back In Black. In fact, if Back In Black ended with the Mephisto-Jane girl, then One More Day could have started from there.
I disagree.

Part One of "One More Day" resolved the issue of how Aunt May's immediate medical needs will be taken care of, and provided closure to two of the big relationships developed in the second half of the Amazing Spider-Man run: Tony Stark/ Peter and Jarvis/ May.

Part Two demonstrated that everyone Peter already knew (the Marvel heroes and villains) were unable to help him, setting up the intervention by an unexpected source. It also had the nice little mindbender with the revelations about the Doctor Strange who opened the door way back in JMS's first year on the title.

Isn't that one of Peter's biggest traits in Marvel's eyes? That Peter is vulnerable and takes a licking physically and emotionally just like the rest of us? Hard to put into words but you get what I mean.

Peter is weak.

On the other hand, I'm praying that Peter doesn't find out the true nature of this dealmaker until shortly after the fact.

I'd like to think if Peter knew he would have to force someone else completely innocent and possibly important to him (hint, hint) to take a bullet (metaphorically) for May, that he wouldn't do it without their consent, or really at all.

I like where this is going, I haven't soured on OMD like alot of people but JMS has to be careful, this is the biggest line he's walked with the character so far.
Given that he has made MJ a fugitive, I think Peter has many reasons to believe that she's be better off if she had never been married to him.

It may be a mistake on his part, but he's not immune to making them.

[Ramiel]

I find it odder when people who don't enjoy "One More Day" say they'll keep buying it, but if they don't like it, they won't but "Brand New Day."

It's not really the fact I think a lot of people aren't really enjoying OMD, at least in my case that's not the whole problem, it's the possibility and rumors of how it's going to end. I think some are waiting to see it out and see if, in the fact, the rumors are true and then drop it. Plus, it is only a 4 issue arc after all, it's not too big of a hit to see it all the way through

It's the possible outcome to OMD that I think is going to make some drop if it brings about the huge retcon as rumored

[Magneto Rocks]

Part Two demonstrated that everyone Peter already knew (the Marvel heroes and villains) were unable to help him, setting up the intervention by an unexpected source. It also had the nice little mindbender with the revelations about the Doctor Strange who opened the door way back in JMS's first year on the title.


Right. Not to mention adding closure to the magic/Strange element that ran through the series.

[Shade 20x6]

It's not really the fact I think a lot of people aren't really enjoying OMD, at least in my case that's not the whole problem, it's the possibility and rumors of how it's going to end. I think some are waiting to see it out and see if, in the fact, the rumors are true and then drop it. Plus, it is only a 4 issue arc after all, it's not too big of a hit to see it all the way through

It's the possible outcome to OMD that I think is going to make some drop if it brings about the huge retcon as rumored

Precisely.

I'm getting a bit annoyed at the careless mistakes being made by JMS. The Nightstalkers/Nightwalkers thing, as well as screwing up May's maiden name, just shows laziness and a lack of research.

[Arti]

I don't get why Loki or Mephisto would interfere with Peter's life. It seems like they would have bigger fish to fry than mess with a street level hero like Spider-man. Is there any foreshadowing to this?

[CMBMOOL]

I don't get why Loki or Mephisto would interfere with Peter's life. It seems like they would have bigger fish to fry than mess with a street level hero like Spider-man. Is there any foreshadowing to this?

Well Loki did owe Spidey a favor and this was before the Thor rebirth. :(

[Mister Mets]

I don't get why Loki or Mephisto would interfere with Peter's life. It seems like they would have bigger fish to fry than mess with a street level hero like Spider-man. Is there any foreshadowing to this?
With JMS, there's foreshadowing involved. No matter what the revelation. :D

Even if we don't know it yet.

[TheBest246]

I wouldn’t have thought it would be loki with what’s happening in thor, haven’t all the gods forgotten that they are gods and are stuck in human form??
I didn’t read spiderman when the baby may thing happened, so im a bit lost on that can some one explain what that’s all about?

[Ramiel]

I wouldn’t have thought it would be loki with what’s happening in thor, haven’t all the gods forgotten that they are gods and are stuck in human form??
I didn’t read spiderman when the baby may thing happened, so im a bit lost on that can some one explain what that’s all about?

MJ and Pete had a baby girl and it apparently died after birth, but you see Kane later in the arc(or may have been same issue) with a baby or, at least, what we assume is a baby wrapped up in a blanket under his arms.

As far as to my knowledge that is the last time she was seen or heard of in anyway in the mainstream MU. She was the basis of the What If? that ended up launching the Spider-Girl series

[stillanerd]

Right. Not to mention adding closure to the magic/Strange element that ran through the series.

Not completely, considering how the "little girl" is definitely magical by nature.

[_Jayme_]

Gahhh...One More Day is so boring for me while I'm reading it but I keep reading expecting something big to happen...Sensational better be damn good.

[Fatguy]

Gahhh...One More Day is so boring for me while I'm reading it but I keep reading expecting something big to happen...Sensational better be damn good.

Agreed, nothing has happened in Amazing Spider-Man in a long, long time. Its all been one issue. Sad Peter want May get better. Sad Peter do bad thing.

Just kill May already, and bring on the good creative teams!

[Sonicjuce]

Agreed, nothing has happened in Amazing Spider-Man in a long, long time. Its all been one issue. Sad Peter want May get better. Sad Peter do bad thing.

Just kill May already, and bring on the good creative teams!

I personally have been loving OMD and completely disagree that nothing has happened. I really don't get when people say that. I mean it's not like Peter sat in a chair for an entire issue. A LOT HAPPENED. I am not going to sum up the issue for you, but I mean come on! Just cause you didn't enjoy it doesn't mean "nothing happened".

I love how driven Peter is right now. I mean the idea that he is going to be responsible for both his Aunt and Uncle's death. I felt that was really hit home this issue. It had kinda been beaten to death, but it really felt genuine this issue. I mean who here could handle being responsible for one of their parents deaths? Peter is going to be for both.

Thus I don't think he is weak nor do I think it is Peter being a baby about anything. He is responsible for so many deaths that it makes sense he would not want yet another.

I also love the reference to that past issue of when Peter goes to see Strange. Anyone remember the issue number? I remember the encounter just not the issue.

One thing I didn't get was why couldn't Peter have started yelling? Or pull out a spider tracer and somehow make it go off?

Also everyone is complaining about the night watch you ma call it mix up. Heck I didn't even notice. You guys need to relax a little, no offense. Maybe go have a beer and check out some chicks. Stop thinking about Spider-Man for a bit.

[Pyro]

I think the problem is that most of us knew what was going to happen in these recent issues way before they even came out. I'm hoping that the next issue starts bringing some surprises, as we finally seem to be past the parts that were over-publicized.

[SilverWebs]

I think the problem is that most of us knew what was going to happen in these recent issues way before they even came out. I'm hoping that the next issue starts bringing some surprises, as we finally seem to be past the parts that were over-publicized.

Take it one step further. If everything we read is true, all that is really left is the decision and how that impacts PP life. Now that BND is being publicized, I am beginning to feel rushed. This seems to have lost alot of steam. Only way to recover is by introducing something unique and surprising.

OMD could have been alot more enjoyable if not for the early hype and controversy with the marriage. It almost seems JQ didn't trust the story and felt the need to artificially create interest.

[Mister Mets]

Take it one step further. If everything we read is true, all that is really left is the decision and how that impacts PP life. Now that BND is being publicized, I am beginning to feel rushed. This seems to have lost alot of steam. Only way to recover is by introducing something unique and surprising.

OMD could have been alot more enjoyable if not for the early hype and controversy with the marriage. It almost seems JQ didn't trust the story and felt the need to artificially create interest.
It is pretty easy to ignore the hype, Just skip over any message board threads on the topic/ articles in places like Newsarama.

Granted, if "One More Day" undoes the marriage, it'll be a major event worth the hype.

[Eye Doc]

It is pretty easy to ignore the hype, Just skip over any message board threads on the topic/ articles in places like Newsarama.

Granted, if "One More Day" undoes the marriage, it'll be a major event worth the hype.

I have a friend who has very good contacts in Marvel. He has given me advance information about events in Spidey this past year or so and everything he told me has come to pass.

He's given me advance information (very credible I must add) about the post OMD-Spidey. I won't give away in plot points, but Peter Parker will not be married when the books are relauched for "Brand New Day".

This shouldn't come as a shock. Quesada hasn't been shy about his dislike of Peter being married. He feels the marriage is a major restriction on the character in terms of storytelling. A recent Wizard article had a panel of former writers, most of whom felt the marriage was a bad idea. This story is suppose to change Peter's life for the foreseeable future. It wasn't hard to figure out Peter would be single even before my friend showed me some of the post OMD details.

Now, we just have to sit back and see how the fans react.

[Taniwha]

Never happen gonna happen, "Waaah" go read "Superman", people are getting on my nerves talking about they are doing to stop collecting spiderman if aunt may dies, or Mary Jane leaves. Please just collect "DC" comics, Marvel is just too advanced for you, better yet just sit tight until marvel comes out with "Amazing Aunt may", or "Mary Jane adventures". I will read, and collect Spiderman comics, as long as Peter Parker is Spiderman.

"Advanced"? I recall a line from Invader Zim about the retarded robot Gir.. something about "It looks... sort of not good." "Oh, no, it's ADVANCED."

Please. The entire Marvel universe is hackwork now. It's not "advanced", it's clusterf*cked by a group of editors who hate the continuity and the humanity of the past work, and care more for Big Hype Events.

Civil war was insulting garbage, the Skrull Invasion is insulting garbage, killing off Cap was insulting garbage, and it goes on.

[Taniwha]

I have a friend who has very good contacts in Marvel. He has given me advance information about events in Spidey this past year or so and everything he told me has come to pass.

He's given me advance information (very credible I must add) about the post OMD-Spidey. I won't give away in plot points, but Peter Parker will not be married when the books are relauched for "Brand New Day".

This shouldn't come as a shock. Quesada hasn't been shy about his dislike of Peter being married. He feels the marriage is a major restriction on the character in terms of storytelling. A recent Wizard article had a panel of former writers, most of whom felt the marriage was a bad idea. This story is suppose to change Peter's life for the foreseeable future. It wasn't hard to figure out Peter would be single even before my friend showed me some of the post OMD details.

Now, we just have to sit back and see how the fans react.

remember that awesome post on the intarwub by "China Doll" or something that spoiled Civil War months ahead of time? THAT RULED. Give us some more spoilage lovin'.

Also, funny how "oh, so many writers" hate the Spidey marriage idea, but, yeah, let's see, isn't MJ basically the DRIVING FORCE in the damn movies? Also, I think it's easy to note that MJ being in Spidey's life is a big plus to the fans. Writing her out will hopefully lose Marvel readers.

Quesada's been a fool about MJ before.

[Taniwha]

I'd say that's pretty fair. If you don't like a comic. You should drop it, vote with your dollar.

What is annoying is that alot of people who say "I'm dropping" for months... don't and then continue to complain.

I dropped about 18 Marvel titles a month, after 10 years, at the end of Civil War. Even Ultimate line stuff, even Powers - just because Icon is owned by Marvel. ;-D

[Blader5489]

He's given me advance information (very credible I must add) about the post OMD-Spidey. I won't give away in plot points,

Please do.

[Fatguy]

I personally have been loving OMD and completely disagree that nothing has happened. I really don't get when people say that. I mean it's not like Peter sat in a chair for an entire issue. A LOT HAPPENED. I am not going to sum up the issue for you, but I mean come on! Just cause you didn't enjoy it doesn't mean "nothing happened".

I appreciate your opinion, but its seems like nothing is happening to me. Sure there's a lot of flash and dazzle, but the crux of whats happening (Peter trying to save May, hearing that she cant be saved) has been going on for what feels like forever. Its a story that seems stretched to the point where its becoming tedious to read.

[Eye Doc]

Please do.

I'd love to but I've been sworn to secrecy. My source makes his living selling Marvel merchandise. He's allowed to see things that aren't meant for you and I.....and he gets them months in advance. He'll show me things or tell me about them, but always with the stipulation Don't put it on the internet. If it somehow got traced back to him, he could possibly get into trouble.

I will tell you this. You can expect to see a large number of new characters in 2008. I counted about 10 and half of them were new supporting cast characters.

This move actually kind of ticks me off. My biggest gripe with the JMS run and Peter's marriage in general was the affect it had on the supporting cast. For years it could be said that Spider-Man had the best supporting cast in comics. But since the marriage their presence has been greatly reduced. Pete and MJ hardly interacted with anyone outside of Aunt May during the JMS era. Before that they only interacted with Harry and Liz, and the former has been dead for over 10 years in real time.

Quesada decides he wants Peter to be single and the first thing the writers do is introduce 4 new characters for Peter to interact with. Each new character we're going to see could've been introduced into the book while Peter was married and I think it could have easily worked. But, it's like they're saying "Now that Peter's single again, let's give him some new characters to interact with and make his life interesting again".

You'll see some new villians too. What I saw didn't overwhelm me and I have to say that a couple of them look corny.

For all I know the new books could be well written. I really can't judge the quality of the storytelling based on the information I saw. But, as I said earlier, everything I was allowed to see could've easily been incorporated into the book without undoing Peter's marriage to MJ.

[Rolltideguy77]

I have been reading Spidey for many years, long before he got married. i love Pete and MJ together. I agree with whomever wrote that Marvel had become a bunch of hack writers. DC is churning out wayyyyy better stuff these days and thats coming from a lifelong hardcore Marvel fan. This OMD crap sucks. Marvel (Joey Q) needs to wakeup and realize they are trashing years worth of hard work and continuity just so they can atempt to put their "stamp" on beloved characters. This junk will never be hailed by fans as Spidey's greatest stories. I think they are moving in a direction similar to Clone saga where they are dragging out plots forever and final payoff is just going to piss fans off then piss them off even more when they try to undo it all because sales go into the gutter. Ugh I dread all this. I have NEVER missed a Spidey issue since 1983 but I am seriously considering giving up after this junk. Even BND looks like crap. Maybe the writing will be ok but lackluster villains and undone continuity does not get my vote of confidence. Why do they keep trying to come up with new villains that just suck when Spidey already has some of the greatest villains ever to play with? Anyone agree with my statements? Disagree?

[Rahul]

Well, the story is really looking good so far, but I dunno, if it does undo the marriage in such a way that it never existed, I dunno...


I mean, as long as its done well(the key point), I wouldn't mind, but either way, it would leave a very noticeable gap in the mythos of the comics..

While I like the idea of a new direction for the Spider Titles and all(Gugenheim and the great artists coming onboard as well!), the solicits are horrendously corny and they don't really endear to me as such. Still, willing to give a chance....

[jackolover]

I have been reading Spidey for many years, long before he got married. i love Pete and MJ together. I agree with whomever wrote that Marvel had become a bunch of hack writers. DC is churning out wayyyyy better stuff these days and thats coming from a lifelong hardcore Marvel fan. This OMD crap sucks. Marvel (Joey Q) needs to wakeup and realize they are trashing years worth of hard work and continuity just so they can atempt to put their "stamp" on beloved characters. This junk will never be hailed by fans as Spidey's greatest stories. I think they are moving in a direction similar to Clone saga where they are dragging out plots forever and final payoff is just going to piss fans off then piss them off even more when they try to undo it all because sales go into the gutter. Ugh I dread all this. I have NEVER missed a Spidey issue since 1983 but I am seriously considering giving up after this junk. Even BND looks like crap. Maybe the writing will be ok but lackluster villains and undone continuity does not get my vote of confidence. Why do they keep trying to come up with new villains that just suck when Spidey already has some of the greatest villains ever to play with? Anyone agree with my statements? Disagree?



Well, the story is really looking good so far, but I dunno, if it does undo the marriage in such a way that it never existed, I dunno...


I mean, as long as its done well(the key point), I wouldn't mind, but either way, it would leave a very noticeable gap in the mythos of the comics..

While I like the idea of a new direction for the Spider Titles and all(Gugenheim and the great artists coming onboard as well!), the solicits are horrendously corny and they don't really endear to me as such. Still, willing to give a chance....

There has always been a problem with fitting MJ into a superhero book. That's always been the problem, and the editors don't know how to reconcile it. For the most part, MJ has been a fixture, like eye candy, who was a little ditzy to start with, but who became more introspective and 3 dimensional evenrually. But look at her appearances in the last 3 years. MJ has basically been an ornament. Nobody tried to pick up on the kidnapping storyline frpm Howard Mackie, so we didn't get a psychotic, abused MJ out of that. The editors just forgot it.

But really, how do you solve the problem of MJ in the books? Unless she gets a bit of backbone, and starts threatening Peter Parker that she's going walk out, unless she gets an equal share of the relationship, instead of waiting around like some war-widow, for her man to come home, while she worries. MJ needs to be proactive in the marriage, and she wasn't. She was a door mat for Peter. Peter treats everyone of his loved ones as a doormat. He appears and disappears at a whim, and too bad if MJ is having problems because the big bad Spiderman won't be there to take care of her. This is what Marvel couldn't do about MJ. Give her some balls and fight for her place in the MU. It may not make Peter any less self-centred, but it would make for some interesting face slapping and belittling from MJ. If MJ had the balls to confront Peter, it might have changed his character, too, in another direction.

[Sonicjuce]

There has always been a problem with fitting MJ into a superhero book. That's always been the problem, and the editors don't know how to reconcile it. For the most part, MJ has been a fixture, like eye candy, who was a little ditzy to start with, but who became more introspective and 3 dimensional evenrually. But look at her appearances in the last 3 years. MJ has basically been an ornament. Nobody tried to pick up on the kidnapping storyline frpm Howard Mackie, so we didn't get a psychotic, abused MJ out of that. The editors just forgot it.

But really, how do you solve the problem of MJ in the books? Unless she gets a bit of backbone, and starts threatening Peter Parker that she's going walk out, unless she gets an equal share of the relationship, instead of waiting around like some war-widow, for her man to come home, while she worries. MJ needs to be proactive in the marriage, and she wasn't. She was a door mat for Peter. Peter treats everyone of his loved ones as a doormat. He appears and disappears at a whim, and too bad if MJ is having problems because the big bad Spiderman won't be there to take care of her. This is what Marvel couldn't do about MJ. Give her some balls and fight for her place in the MU. It may not make Peter any less self-centred, but it would make for some interesting face slapping and belittling from MJ. If MJ had the balls to confront Peter, it might have changed his character, too, in another direction.

I see what your saying but I strongly disagree. I think JMS has pretty much done away with the entire supporting cast to simply strengthen the MJ/Peter marriage. Especially during CW. Her character has been far and beyond simply "eye candy" as you put it.

Also following the kidnapping there was the whole leaving Peter because she couldn't be around him. That was for a lot of reasons, but it was there.

I would really say that MJ has a great "backbone" they just need to utilize it.

[666andahalf]

A lot of people are saying how they'll drop the book if they break off the MJ marriage and I completely understand. However, I'm going to keep reading as long as the continuing stories are interesting and well written.

For example, I didn't like the direction MK Spider-Man took the character Venom, but I thought the story was well written. So far, the newer Venom stories are unsatisfying to a Venom-fan like myself. The inverse is true for OMD and BND. OMD is probably going to be very unsatisfying and possibly leave a bad taste in my mouth (like Sins Past) but if Brand New Day brings forth great writing and entertaining stories, then I'm still on board, regardless of the changes.