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Subotai
10-04-2007, 10:59 AM
...what people are gonna believe about you. I guess you can't help who's gonna believe in you, either."

Great line. Great lines all through this. Ennis sorta puts on his Kevin Smith hat in this one - but I don't mind the religious references because he's given the church a hard time in the past.

So many great scenes. Framing device works terrifically. If this doesn't convince DC to issue Hitman trades, well, fuck 'em.

Man, this just jumped past Scalped #9 for my favourite issue of the year.

Expletive Deleted
10-04-2007, 11:37 AM
"Tommy Was Here"

Nice touch.

drwho
10-04-2007, 12:49 PM
I was thinking this would be in a trade and then found out it was only 2 issues long. As a whole is this mini worth it?

dreyga2000
10-04-2007, 02:21 PM
I was thinking this would be in a trade and then found out it was only 2 issues long. As a whole is this mini worth it?

Simply Put...yes

gunz
10-04-2007, 02:47 PM
tommy was here.....

got a lil chocked up

d.c, release the god damn trades

Rich L
10-04-2007, 02:56 PM
Fantastic issue all round.

Those last few pages made me think that the one superhero that I'd like to see Garth Ennis take on seriously is Superman. He gets it, I think.

Dammit, I miss Tommy and his crew - although I guess that Hacken and Baytor are pretty much the only ones left now. If I had the comics with me, I'd read the whole run again.

ultramandingo
10-04-2007, 05:03 PM
"Tommy Was Here"

Nice touch.

............supes shoulda moved it to his fortress of solitude, displayed next to darksides bed pan

Lance
10-04-2007, 05:52 PM
I hope it brings some new readers to Hitman. It was a such great series.

Definitely worth it.

filthysize
10-04-2007, 07:17 PM
God, this issue is just ridiculously fantastic.

Guess that thing we were talking about in the other thread how Ennis thinks all superheroes are jokes except Superman is true.

Aubergine~!
10-04-2007, 08:34 PM
The saddest thing about this issue? It's probabaly the last Hitman we're ever getting.

God, that's depressing.

spidervenom
10-04-2007, 08:36 PM
dc really needs to collect them in tpb, that and aztek.

ultramandingo
10-04-2007, 09:52 PM
............aztek hitman team up!

spolier - they both die!

CBikle
10-04-2007, 10:05 PM
Fantastic issue all round.

Those last few pages made me think that the one superhero that I'd like to see Garth Ennis take on seriously is Superman. He gets it, I think.

I think it'd be an interesting change from the normal hard-boiled Ennis stuff.

Alternatively, it'd be very interesting to see him do a Superman title where the villains are real nasty ala The Punisher.

The Lucky One
10-04-2007, 10:39 PM
Ennis sorta puts on his Kevin Smith hat in this one - but I don't mind the religious references because he's given the church a hard time in the past.

Really? I'll be honest, I didn't pick up on any of that. I mean, aside from the standard "Lord protect the Irish" stuff that doesn't have any real religious devotion behind it, and Superman's last prayer (which, c'mon... he's Superman), I didn't think it was at all proselytizing. What bothered you?


The saddest thing about this issue? It's probabaly the last Hitman we're ever getting.

God, that's depressing.

You never know. A year and a half ago I would have sworn we'd already gotten the last Hitman we'd ever see. I mean, I doubt Ennis is interested in writing regular "Untold Tales of Tommy Monaghan" minis or anything, but if he had another story to tell with the character once, it's not outside the realm of possibility that he might sometime again. He might not, of course... but here's hoping.

-D

ultramandingo
10-04-2007, 10:48 PM
Alternatively, it'd be very interesting to see him do a Superman title where the villains are real nasty ala The Punisher.

...........or the heros are nasty ala The Punisher - ala The Boys

Duy
10-05-2007, 01:59 AM
"If you knew how much you are loved, none of you would ever raise a fist in rage again."

Definitive Superman.

Subotai
10-05-2007, 06:47 AM
Really? I'll be honest, I didn't pick up on any of that. I mean, aside from the standard "Lord protect the Irish" stuff that doesn't have any real religious devotion behind it, and Superman's last prayer (which, c'mon... he's Superman), I didn't think it was at all proselytizing. What bothered you?

It didn't bother me at all, it just felt a little unusual coming from Ennis. But it was spot-on for Tommy, just what he'd say. Good job by Ennis.

Aubergine~!
10-05-2007, 07:13 AM
You know, I know they're not in the same continuity or anything, but how awesome would a Preacher/Hitman crossover be? It wouldn't even have to make sense.

Subotai
10-05-2007, 08:47 AM
I've wondered what an older, more mature Ennis could do with an older Jesse Custer & Tulip.

Brock
10-05-2007, 10:03 AM
I've wondered what an older, more mature Ennis could do with an older Jesse Custer & Tulip.

But that would negate their perfect ride-into-the-sunset ending.

(Looks the other way for Indiana Jones part 4)

joint venture
10-05-2007, 11:17 AM
hell yeah.

cactusmaac
10-06-2007, 04:41 AM
Fucking brilliant.

Best Superman comic since Hitman #34.

zebop
10-08-2007, 02:18 AM
Yeah, and I mean it.

This was the Best Superman story and the Best JLA story of the year. Nobody has to think too much to get it that Garth Ennis doesn't like superheroes. But he does respect Superman and that just jumps off the page in this mini-series and hits you right between the eye.

Ennis "gets" the nobility and unselfishness and just common decency of a guy who could rule the world if he chose, but chooses to serve and protect it instead.

This was a delightfully entertaining story and though John McCrea isn't the most conventional artist for a super-hero book, he did a helluva job (and draws a very sexy Wonder Woman).

Last, but hardly least, seeing Tommy Monahan again makes me realize how much I miss the HITMAN title. I'd rather it be gone and mourned than hanging around and some hack writer totally destroy the character, but doggone it, that was one great comic book!

C'mon DC, do the right thing and get those trades out soon. :cool:

zebop
10-08-2007, 02:20 AM
Yeah, and I mean it.

This was the Best Superman story and the Best JLA story of the year. Nobody has to think too much to get it that Garth Ennis doesn't like superheroes. But he does respect Superman and that just jumps off the page in this mini-series and hits you right between the eye.

Ennis "gets" the nobility and unselfishness and just common decency of a guy who could rule the world if he chose, but chooses to serve and protect it instead.

This was a delightfully entertaining story and though John McCrea isn't the most conventional artist for a super-hero book, he did a helluva job (and draws a very sexy Wonder Woman).

Last, but hardly least, seeing Tommy Monahan again makes me realize how much I miss the HITMAN title. I'd rather it be gone and mourned than hanging around and some hack writer totally destroy the character, but doggone it, that was one great comic book!

C'mon DC, do the right thing and get those trades out soon. :cool:

zebop
10-08-2007, 02:21 AM
double post

The Beast Of Yucca Flats
10-08-2007, 04:37 AM
"If you knew how much you are loved, none of you would ever raise a fist in rage again."

Definitive Superman.

Oh, totally. The rest was great, but the stuff between Tommy & Superman was the real bone & muscle of the story. It was just really great how Ennis could build on #34 that successfully.

Superbeast
10-08-2007, 03:42 PM
You know, I know they're not in the same continuity or anything, but how awesome would a Preacher/Hitman crossover be? It wouldn't even have to make sense.

Vertigo is not a totally different continuity (see Sandman and Animal Man titles still crossing over to the main DCU), just a different parallel universe. They could do a crossover but I think both ended appropriately and I doubt Ennis wants to cover old ground for the sake of it. Tommy and The Saint Of Killers would have made for an interesting meeting though.

carabas
10-08-2007, 04:04 PM
Vertigo is not a totally different continuity (see Sandman and Animal Man titles still crossing over to the main DCU), just a different parallel universe. They could do a crossover but I think both ended appropriately and I doubt Ennis wants to cover old ground for the sake of it. Tommy and The Saint Of Killers would have made for an interesting meeting though.
Vertigo is not even a continuity, much less a continuity that is part of the greater DCU (although the bits that started out as DCU (Swamp thing, John Constantine, Animal Man...) somewhat muddy the waters.

But Preacher, like most of present day Vertigo) is a creator-owned series, not part of anything else, and DC can't even dream of using the characters for anything at all, not even a cameo in a panel in a Crisis-type event.

Hulkamaniac
10-08-2007, 04:09 PM
Simply amazing stuff. Looooved it, Ennis is the man! recommend that anyone that hasn't read these issues go to your local shop and buy them now!