The Hood's team

[blockbuster]

what villains are on his team for the upcoming issues of NA is there any preview art for next weeks issue?

[Monty_Cristo]

rumoured to be associated with the Hood...

Doctor Jonas Harrow
Madame Masque
Wizard
Crimson Cowl
Wrecking Crew
Chemistro
Titania
Tombstone

[Lombardo!]

Add to that list: Jigsaw

(latest matt fraction interview on Punisher: War Journal)

[MAK15]

what Lombardo and the count of Monty Cristo said.

...but dangit, I wanted to say it first...

[Xanrn]

Damm he has some heavy hitters on his Team.

Titania and the Wrecking Crew?

I hope Wizard and Spidey have a Brain-off.

Actually show Pete's genius level IQ.

[Nyssane]

It's possible the Serpent Society is working with him, as the Avengers are working to take them down in Giant Sized Avengers Special #1 (which comes out december -- around the same time The Hood's plans are unfolding, right?).

[cernunnos]

Tiger Shark and Armadillo are also at the Hood's meeting.

[Monty_Cristo]

It's possible the Serpent Society is working with him, as the Avengers are working to take them down in Giant Sized Avengers Special #1 (which comes out december -- around the same time The Hood's plans are unfolding, right?).

the Serpent Society answer to the Red Skull now.

[StoneGold]

the Serpent Society answer to the Red Skull now.

That's the Serpent Squad, actually. But as far as I know, the Society hasn't re-reunited since Cap busted them up in Avengers Disassembled.

[LordEd1976]

Tiger Shark and Armadillo are also at the Hood's meeting.

what a minute! I thought the Armadillo was reformed and a part of the Rangers. (As shown in Avengers: the Iniative #2.)

[Monty_Cristo]

what a minute! I thought the Armadillo was reformed and a part of the Rangers. (As shown in Avengers: the Iniative #2.)

that's because you haven't read MODOK's 11.

[Hulkamaniac]

This grouping sounds mega-fun! can't wait!

[blockbuster]

Who is the bald, big guy infront of aramadillo(sp?) looks likea cross between crossbones and iron clad...anyone have any idea? wayy to many b list villains to remember

[Nyssane]

It's Crossbones, though we originally thought it was Absorbing Man.

[Magneto Rocks]

It's Crossbones, though we originally thought it was Absorbing Man.

CROSSBONES?

In the name of the Lord, someone stop Bendis before he destroys the continuity in every other book!

[Nyssane]

CROSSBONES?

In the name of the Lord, someone stop Bendis before he destroys the continuity in every other book!

Too late! *CRUMBLE*

[jester1436]

I think Turner D. Century is there off panel. Who cares if he's dead. He's off panel with the original Grapplers, the Sensors and the Nasty Boys.

[TotalWorldDomination]

CROSSBONES?

In the name of the Lord, someone stop Bendis before he destroys the continuity in every other book!

And thus we learn the TRUE nature of the next big company wide crossover. Bendisboy Prime has been punching the walls of his prison just a smidge too much. and now we all pay for it. ;)

[Expletive Deleted]

In the name of the Lord, someone stop Bendis before he destroys the continuity in every other book!Kneejerk reaction aside, what's wrong with Crossbones popping up here? He's working for the Red Skull, not handcuffed to him.

[Silver Knight]

Ok what I dont get is this. The Hoods plan is brillant in its simplicity, since the heroes identitys are public go after their families and make them work for you. Sounds simple and brutal yes? Well what about guys like Frank Castle AKA Punisher and Ghost Rider. You bring Jigsaw and Blackout into this and those heroes wont be far behind. They got nothing to lose Especially Puny who has already killed a s-load of B-ranked villians before and now with his new arsenal whats to stop him again. And after GR gets done with the devil and gets back to Marvel continuty he'll be on their a- too.

[jeffmace]

Here's what I don't get...Crusader and Cutthroat were seen with the Hood's new group in New Avengers #35. However, both of these guys were presumed killed (Cutthroat was murdered by Crossbones, and Crusader was caught in a plane crash while fighting Wolverine)...anyone wanna bet these two are skrulls?

[Expletive Deleted]

Ok what I dont get is this. The Hoods plan is brillant in its simplicity, since the heroes identitys are public go after their families and make them work for you. Sounds simple and brutal yes? Well what about guys like Frank Castle AKA Punisher and Ghost Rider. You bring Jigsaw and Blackout into this and those heroes wont be far behind. They got nothing to lose Especially Puny who has already killed a s-load of B-ranked villians before and now with his new arsenal whats to stop him again. And after GR gets done with the devil and gets back to Marvel continuty he'll be on their a- too.They're supervillains. If they worried about superheroes eventually showing up and kicking the crap out of them, they'd never actually get anything done.

[Monty_Cristo]

i'm hoping for escalation, a large organization of vigilantes pooling their resources to start screwing with these villains' families. possible new Scourge organization. Punisher. Moon Knight. Cardiac. Fool Killer. Poison. Solo. these are all resourceful individuals. they could really put a hurting on Parker and his cronies, if motivated. i have always wondered why vigilantes (i'm talking about the hardcore ones) don't team up more often.

[static]

allright someone...get to work and ID all the villians seated in this book...i cant tell with the art so sketchy...

[Silver Knight]

allright someone...get to work and ID all the villians seated in this book...i cant tell with the art so sketchy...

You have Bendis to thank for that, putting marvels two best artists on Mighty when everyones reading New Avengers.

[MAK15]

ugh, just go to the stupid Wizard page that spoils the comic every time it hits the shelves.
heres a link: http://www.wizarduniverse.com/magazine/wizard/006110864.cfm

oh, and those who think Crossbones is there?
wrong.
Crossbones is not that big.
Im surprised no one's asked why the fool killer's there? he's the Scourge of the Uderworld!

[Silver Knight]

They're supervillains. If they worried about superheroes eventually showing up and kicking the crap out of them, they'd never actually get anything done.

Didnt Hood say something simular to that when he was addressing the other villians?

I also like the part where he says Iron Man will have to seel off his armor for scrap, halarious. But ya knwo maybe its because he's one of the smartest street level villans I've ever seen or perhaps if he becomes succesful with his plans, It'll actually help the Anti-reg cause but I really like this guy. Think about if they actually target the families of regestered Heroes maybe they will FINALLY get the picture and realize signing away their secret idenity was very bad.

[mattbib]

You have Bendis to thank for that, putting marvels two best artists on Mighty when everyones reading New Avengers.
Unless I missed some change in the way Marvel runs things, writers do not assign artists to books.

[MAK15]

Didnt Hood say something simular to that when he was addressing the other villians?

I also like the part where he says Iron Man will have to seel off his armor for scrap, halarious. But ya knwo maybe its because he's one of the smartest street level villans I've ever seen or perhaps if he becomes succesful with his plans, It'll actually help the Anti-reg cause but I really like this guy. Think about if they actually target the families of regestered Heroes maybe they will FINALLY get the picture and realize signing away their secret idenity was very bad.

it wont help the anti-reggers at all.
becasue the anti-reggers will be hit, too.
also, since the anti-reggers will be hit from villains and heroes, they'll prolly register to feel safe. you know, that whole 'safety in numbers thing'.

[Silver Knight]

it wont help the anti-reggers at all.
becasue the anti-reggers will be hit, too.
also, since the anti-reggers will be hit from villains and heroes, they'll prolly register to feel safe. you know, that whole 'safety in numbers thing'.

Well lets see who you gonna go after a bunch of people you dont know who they really are or the Idiotis people that decided to sign a paper and give their lives to the goverment.

[Madison Carter]

Here's what I don't get...Crusader and Cutthroat were seen with the Hood's new group in New Avengers #35. However, both of these guys were presumed killed (Cutthroat was murdered by Crossbones, and Crusader was caught in a plane crash while fighting Wolverine)...anyone wanna bet these two are skrulls?

Both were shown to be alive during the Breakout in New Avengers #1-4, along with several other villains previously believed deceased.

[Dark Soul # 7]

Both were shown to be alive during the Breakout in New Avengers #1-4, along with several other villains previously believed deceased.Crusader's more recent death was after that.
So Bendis is still screwing up things.

[MAK15]

Crusader's more recent death was after that.
So Bendis is still screwing up things.

skrullskrullskrullskrullskrullskrullskrullskrullsk rullskrullskrullskrullskrullskrullskrulloh, by the way: skrull

[NMoline]

I am pretty sure that the guy you all have mistaken for Crossbones is one of the Blood Brothers and the other is to his left.

[oanswat]

So is Constrictor a skrull or a double agent for the initiative?

[MAK15]

So is Constrictor a skrull or a double agent for the initiative?

possibly.
or it could be the squid, another villain who has a costume nearly identical to Constrictors.

[bulbasteve]

Well lets see who you gonna go after a bunch of people you dont know who they really are or the Idiotis people that decided to sign a paper and give their lives to the goverment.

Jigsaw and all the other guys he found obviously weren't registered. He used like magic or umm... skrull stuff to find out, not a government database.

[Monty_Cristo]

Jigsaw and all the other guys he found obviously weren't registered. He used like magic or umm... skrull stuff to find out, not a government database.

or the Constrictor is secretly working for him and stealing info from Camp Hammond.


possibly.
or it could be the squid, another villain who has a costume nearly identical to Constrictors.

isn't the Squid's costume green?

[bulbasteve]

or the Constrictor is secretly working for him and stealing info from Camp Hammond.

Then I guess the Initiative is much better than I thought if they knew Jigsaw was hiding out in a storage garage.

[StoneGold]

So is Constrictor a skrull or a double agent for the initiative?

Or he's a double agent in the Initiative for the syndicate.

[Blader5489]

I am pretty sure that the guy you all have mistaken for Crossbones is one of the Blood Brothers and the other is to his left.

There's only one Blood Brother now.

[The Master Meglomaniac]

Jigsaw and all the other guys he found obviously weren't registered. He used like magic or umm... skrull stuff to find out, not a government database.

How did the Hood find out about Tigra's family though? If the Initiative was as really as you say, wouldn't they protect the members' family, so some random psycho couldn't threaten their family?

[Monty_Cristo]

How did the Hood find out about Tigra's family though? If the Initiative was as really as you say, wouldn't they protect the members' family, so some random psycho couldn't threaten their family?

Tigra gave up her information right in front of Jigsaw (the earlier cop scene).

[The Master Meglomaniac]

Tigra gave up her information right in front of Jigsaw (the earlier cop scene).

She was cut off before she finished and her name in of itself doesn't reveal the location of her mother, considering Tigra didn't reveal her maiden name. Hood clearly got the info from the government's database.

[bulbasteve]

She was cut off before she finished and her name in of itself doesn't reveal the location of her mother, considering Tigra didn't reveal her maiden name. Hood clearly got the info from the government's database.

How did the Hood find out about Tigra's family though? If the Initiative was as really as you say, wouldn't they protect the members' family, so some random psycho couldn't threaten their family?


He made a point that it was MYSTERIOUS how he found out how he got all the villians named. These are guys the heroes can't find as many of them were from the Raft breakout. What is clear is that he has some other source of this information. How does it make sense that he has a mysterious way of knowing about the villians but with the heroes he cracks government databases? There is no evidence in the book at all that it came from a database, so why are you saying it is clear? Well aside from the fact I think you have a daily requirement of Tony dissing :p

[Monty_Cristo]

How that hell is that clear? He made a point that it was MYSTERIOUS how he found out how he got all the villians named. These are guys the HEROES can't find. What is clear is that he has some other source of this information about EVERYONE. How does it make sense that he has a mysterious way of knowing about the villians but with the heroes he cracks government databases.

How the hell can the Initiaitive protect against what is more than likely freaking MAGIC? Hell the best evidence you have that he isn't cracking databases is that they DON'T know.

either way, these villains should be a little cautious about targeting families. didn't they hear what happened to Kingpin? Daredevil and Spider-man have come after him for that kind of stuff. i thought criminals were supposed to be a cowardly lot.

[The Master Meglomaniac]

He made a point that it was MYSTERIOUS how he found out how he got all the villians named. These are guys the heroes can't find as many of them were from the Raft breakout. What is clear is that he has some other source of this information. How does it make sense that he has a mysterious way of knowing about the villians but with the heroes he cracks government databases? There is no evidence in the book at all that it came from a database, so why are you saying it is clear? Well aside from the fact I think you have a daily requirement of Tony dissing :p

The fact that the Hood is claiming the rigid nature of Initiative aids his cause, might have something to do with it.


either way, these villains should be a little cautious about targeting families. didn't they hear what happened to Kingpin? Daredevil and Spider-man have come after him for that kind of stuff. i thought criminals were supposed to be a cowardly lot.

Well villains today are more "sadistic and psychopathic" rather than "cowardly". Of course threatening old ladies is pretty cowardly, just in a different way.

[overcomebyfumes]

Does anyone know who on the Hood's crew is know to be dead (i.e. probably a skrull)?

I know someone mentioned that the Crusader and Centurius are definately deceased. I think Vermin may be dead, but I'm not sure of that. And I'm not entirely sure Scarecrow is still among the living (I think Ghost Rider killed him, again, not quite sure of that).


partial list

Blackout, Shockwave, Bushwacker, Slug, Centurius, The Answer, Chemistro, The Armadillo, Crossfire, The Blood Brothers, Cutthroat, The Brothers Grimm, Deathwatch, The Constrictor, Dr. Demonicus, The Controller, Foolkiller, The Corrupter, Graviton, The Crusader, Grey Gargoyle, The Griffin, Hydro Man, The Living Laser, Jigsaw, The U-Foes, Mandrill, The Wrecking Crew, Mentallo, Tiger Shark,Mister Fear, Typhoid Mary, Mister Hyde, Vermin, Purple Man, Rampage, Razor-Fist, Scarecrow.

Thanks.

pax.

[NMoline]

There's only one Blood Brother now.

Well the one on the left looks like a blood brother and the guy on the right looks identical just white? If he is dead, than maybe this is a Skrull impostor who knows. I am pretty sure that it isn't crossbones if the wizard article can be trusted.

[MAK15]

Well the one on the left looks like a blood brother and the guy on the right looks identical just white? If he is dead, than maybe this is a Skrull impostor who knows. I am pretty sure that it isn't crossbones if the wizard article can be trusted.

you know there's gotta be a few skrulls in that group.

like FoolKiller, Crusader...uh...mentallo (although MODOK's 11 could take place after this, since Mentallo uses the WWH scenario for the Ultra-adaptoid. or Mentallo just made it look like he got killed by the Ultra-thingy via telepathic image). hmmm...other possibilites could be teh Purple Man, although he might play along for the cash, and try to usurp power later.
I'm thinkin the living laser in that group is a skrull too, since he's got a corporeal body.

[FeminineMystique]

[QUOTE][CROSSBONES?

In the name of the Lord, someone stop Bendis before he destroys the continuity in every other book!/QUOTE]

Don't you DARE use the C word [edited by Moderator].

A cameo by a character which contradicts one other book is not the equivalent of, I dunno, Tony STark turning out to be a manipulative b*stard who supports the violent violation of civil liberties.

So before you b*tch about Crossbones putting in a cameo in Bendis's book, why not take a long hard look at Civil War. You can't tell me that doesn't p*ss over well over thirty years of continuity.

[MAK15]

[CROSSBONES?

In the name of the Lord, someone stop Bendis before he destroys the continuity in every other book!

Don't you DARE use the C word [Edited by Moderator].

A cameo by a character which contradicts one other book is not the equivalent of, I dunno, Tony STark turning out to be a manipulative b*stard who supports the violent violation of civil liberties.

So before you b*tch about Crossbones putting in a cameo in Bendis's book, why not take a long hard look at Civil War. You can't tell me that doesn't p*ss over well over thirty years of continuity.

what 'C word' are you reffering to?

[Nyssane]

Poundcakes should be in The Hood's army.

[Monty_Cristo]

Poundcakes should be in The Hood's army.

the army mess hall? j/k

[Nyssane]

the army mess hall? j/k

LMAO. That was good, despite you dissing the most badass villainess of all time.

[Monty_Cristo]

LMAO. That was good, despite you dissing the most badass villainess of all time.

wait, did Frenzy die?

[Nyssane]

wait, did Frenzy die?

No, but not even she can compare to the might of POUNDCAKES.

[Monty_Cristo]

snatched from the Bendisboard...

http://www.606studios.com/bendisboard/showthread.php?t=73558&page=13

"There will be more Constrictor in the Initiative. And, no, that wasnt' him at the supervillain meeting in New Avengers #35.

My best guess? That was the Squid-- a supervillain that LOOKS a lot like the Constrictor. But isn't." - - Dan Slott

[Nyssane]

OMG MONTY, ask him to put Poundcakes and Coachwhip in the villain team! <3

[Nyssane]

URGGH, I tried to register to ask Slott if he's going to use Anaconda in the Initiative for the Pennsylvania team, or otherwise, but my registration wouldn't go through because apparently I have more than one IP. :( ASK HIM FOR ME, MONTY, MY LOVE~!

[MAK15]

URGGH, I tried to register to ask Slott if he's going to use Anaconda in the Initiative for the Pennsylvania team, or otherwise, but my registration wouldn't go through because apparently I have more than one IP. :( ASK HIM FOR ME, MONTY, MY LOVE~!

now you two are just getting wierd.
save the romance to Pms, would ya?

you now who I'd like to see in the Hood's gang?
Dragon Man.
yeah, Dragon Man.
it's the perfect henchman.
just point him in a direction.
and the best part: dont havta pay him.

[Monty_Cristo]

URGGH, I tried to register to ask Slott if he's going to use Anaconda in the Initiative for the Pennsylvania team, or otherwise, but my registration wouldn't go through because apparently I have more than one IP. :( ASK HIM FOR ME, MONTY, MY LOVE~!

lol. you're asking the wrong person. i was banned from that site a long long time ago.

[Nyssane]

lol. you're asking the wrong person. i was banned from that site a long long time ago.

LOL. That oddly makes it all better.


now you two are just getting wierd.
save the romance to Pms, would ya?

So I'm guessing fellatio is out.

I wouldn't mind Dragon Man joining the team, but only if he's trained by Coachwhip, who whips him into shape!

[Monty_Cristo]

LOL. That oddly makes it all better.



So I'm guessing fellatio is out.

I wouldn't mind Dragon Man joining the team, but only if he's trained by Coachwhip, who whips him into shape!

wait, so PMs doesn't stand for p_____ mouth stimulation?

i'd be down for more Dragon Man.

[The Master Meglomaniac]

now you two are just getting wierd.
save the romance to Pms, would ya?

you now who I'd like to see in the Hood's gang?
Dragon Man.
yeah, Dragon Man.
it's the perfect henchman.
just point him in a direction.
and the best part: dont havta pay him.

They should put more Spidey rogues on the team. Seriously Spidey has the second best rogues gallery in comics, Why aren't guys like Shocker, Electro, Vulture, Rhino, etc on the team? They have 5 DD villains, but only two c-list Spidey rogues: Hydroman and Vermin.

[MAK15]

They should put more Spidey rogues on the team. Seriously Spidey has the second best rogues gallery in comics, Why aren't guys like Shocker, Electro, Vulture, Rhino, etc on the team? They have 5 DD villains, but only two c-list Spidey rogues: Hydroman and Vermin.

Shocker would make sense since he got kicked around by the Hood in the mini and even prophesised (I guess you could call it that) that the Hood would go far in teh biz.
Meeting Electro would be a fanboy dream of Parker's come true, since Electro kinda made the whole supervillain gig seem appealing to Parker in the first place.

[Will.S]

you now who I'd like to see in the Hood's gang?
Dragon Man.
yeah, Dragon Man.
it's the perfect henchman.
just point him in a direction.
and the best part: dont havta pay him.
Dragon Man is cool and all but the Griffin kind of fills out the same type of role and is even on par with him in strength class. Plus I think Dragon Man nowadays gets Rhino'esque appearances in books where he doesn't become the focus villain.

Well, I guess an exception could be made for Dwayne McDuffie's Beyond!, he was a pretty serious threat there.


They should put more Spidey rogues on the team. Seriously Spidey has the second best rogues gallery in comics, Why aren't guys like Shocker, Electro, Vulture, Rhino, etc on the team? They have 5 DD villains, but only two c-list Spidey rogues: Hydroman and Vermin.
It's probably because Vermin and Hydroman get the least attention out of the usual core group of Spidey villains. They're still pretty awesome even if underrated so I'm glad that they're getting more attention.

[Pixie_Solanas]

Hood's team is the most uninteresting grouping of b and c list baddies i've ever seen. Chemistro? Jigsaw? Madame Masque? It's a regular keystone kops for villainy incompetence. I'll have to assume that Bendis meant for the group to be one pathetic-looking motley crew of losers because it just doesn't work as anything awe-inspiring.

[Monty_Cristo]

Hood's team is the most uninteresting grouping of b and c list baddies i've ever seen. Chemistro? Jigsaw? Madame Masque? It's a regular keystone kops for villainy incompetence. I'll have to assume that Bendis meant for the group to be one pathetic-looking motley crew of losers because it just doesn't work as anything awe-inspiring.

you're just saying that because they killed the Owl. me, i would have prefered there be more Spider-man villains (but a lot of them registered). of course, we're talking about the Hood. can he really do better than b and c listers? if you were Count Nefaria, would you follow this chump? i'm surprised he got the U-Foes to sign up (or a natural leader like Crossfire).

[Will.S]

Hood's team is the most uninteresting grouping of b and c list baddies i've ever seen. Chemistro? Jigsaw? Madame Masque? It's a regular keystone kops for villainy incompetence. I'll have to assume that Bendis meant for the group to be one pathetic-looking motley crew of losers because it just doesn't work as anything awe-inspiring.
Well the point of the group is pretty obvious at this point.

The Hood outlined the plans for them in both usage and in organization to work as a unit rather than individually where they almost always fail. As for characters like Jigsaw and Madam Masque, they aren't THAT low on the recognition factor since they've been around in various titles like Daredevil and Avengers/Iron Man but having them mixed in with the other more obscure villains like Dr. Demonicus and Chemistro makes for an interesting mix.

I also like the personalities of the ones showed so far like Blackout and the Wrecking Crew.

[Pixie_Solanas]

you're just saying that because they killed the Owl. me, i would have prefered there be more Spider-man villains (but a lot of them registered). of course, we're talking about the Hood. can he really do better than b and c listers? if you were Count Nefaria, would you follow this chump? i'm surprised he got the U-Foes to sign up (or a natural leader like Crossfire).

Eh, I still say Owl's popping up down the road. Just like The Crusader ended up at the Hood table after supposedly crashing and burning in a 747. Besides, only Alex Maleev ever did the Owl character any justice in terms of art. Yu drew him like a Logan clone. He should have been shot for lookin' like that :)


Anyway, I gotta say #35 was an enjoyable read for the simple fact it was pretty much all-villain.
Now, who the heck is the lion-esque character at the table?

[Will.S]

Now, who the heck is the lion-esque character at the table?
If you mean this guy:

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix3/griffinhorton1.jpg

He's the Griffin.

[Pixie_Solanas]

If you mean this guy:

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix3/griffinhorton1.jpg

He's the Griffin.

ah, thanks!

[StoneGold]

As it turns out, the Mr. Fear in Hood's gang is definitely the Mr. Fear over in Daredevil right now. Read the latest issue of DD for more info. Or check out the thread on the MU board. Either way, get your dose of spoilers.

[MAK15]

As it turns out, the Mr. Fear in Hood's gang is definitely the Mr. Fear over in Daredevil right now. Read the latest issue of DD for more info. Or check out the thread on the MU board. Either way, get your dose of spoilers.

nuh-uh!
the Mr. Fear in the Hood's gang is the cousin of the Mr. Fear who's running Hell's Kitchen.
otherwise, the Hood wouldnt' be spyin on DD and plannin on usin him to find Fear.

Also:
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix3/griffinhorton1.jpg

Eat Frosted Flakes! They're GREEEEAAAAAAAAT!!!

like I'm the only guy who thought of that.

[StoneGold]

I'll be damned, you're right. I was so shocked by the Hood being there, I kind of glossed over some of the text. My bad.

[Push You Down]

If you mean this guy:

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix3/griffinhorton1.jpg

He's the Griffin.

Namor used to ride this guy around like a horse.

[Toboe]

Having two different Mr. Fears running around at the same time makes things so confusing...

Although, has this been confirmed? That the one at the Hood's team on New Avengers and the one screwing Daredevil are two different people?
From Daredevil #101, I thought Daredevil's Mr. Fear was indeed the one with the Hood on NA, but went rogue after hearing what the Hood had to say and started his rival operation. Hopefully it'll become more clear in upcoming issues.

[PunisherFan]

Having two different Mr. Fears running around at the same time makes things so confusing...

Although, has this been confirmed? That the one at the Hood's team on New Avengers and the one screwing Daredevil are two different people?
From Daredevil #101, I thought Daredevil's Mr. Fear was indeed the one with the Hood on NA, but went rogue after hearing what the Hood had to say and started his rival operation. Hopefully it'll become more clear in upcoming issues.

I was thinking the same thing. It would make sense for The Hood and his gang to go after Fear in Daredvil if he did defect

[MAK15]

Having two different Mr. Fears running around at the same time makes things so confusing...

Although, has this been confirmed? That the one at the Hood's team on New Avengers and the one screwing Daredevil are two different people?
From Daredevil #101, I thought Daredevil's Mr. Fear was indeed the one with the Hood on NA, but went rogue after hearing what the Hood had to say and started his rival operation. Hopefully it'll become more clear in upcoming issues.

nah, the costumes are different. that's a big hint that they're different right there.
also, the Mr. Fear in DD 100 would've tried to take over the Hood's operation right then and there. Jacked the whole room full of fear gas and have all the competition kill each other.
...they'll prolly have the two mr. fear's meet face to face.
and then have the less deadly one get killed.

[Expletive Deleted]

Screw Mr. Fear. Hood's team has Turk. Turk, people!

He's unstoppable, now.

[StoneGold]

Screw Mr. Fear. Hood's team has Turk. Turk, people!

He's unstoppable, now.

Man, if Turk can get his hands on the now-vacant Stilt Man armor again... I shudder at the thought.

[Monty_Cristo]

Man, if Turk can get his hands on the now-vacant Stilt Man armor again... I shudder at the thought.

yeah, it would be the funniest accidental suicide ever.

[rogerio]

If you mean this guy:

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix3/griffinhorton1.jpg

He's the Griffin.
laughable...:) :) :)

[Push You Down]

slight hijack.. and I suppose I could find out in other sources...but what'sthe Griffin's story? Mutant? Chemical accident? What's the deal?
How intelligent is he? Like I said earlier, I remember in Namor's solo title from the 90s that he was basically Namor's steed for a few issues.

[mattbib]

slight hijack.. and I suppose I could find out in other sources...but what'sthe Griffin's story? Mutant? Chemical accident? What's the deal?
How intelligent is he?He was surgically and chemically mutated. His intelligence is variable depending upon the state of his powers.

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix3/griffinhorton.htm

[Rahul]

...
Originally Posted by StoneGold
Man, if Turk can get his hands on the now-vacant Stilt Man armor again... I shudder at the thought.

yeah, it would be the funniest accidental suicide ever.
...



More funny if the Punisher shot him accidentally in the face...

[Pixie_Solanas]

Screw Mr. Fear. Hood's team has Turk. Turk, people!

He's unstoppable, now.

I love this passage from the Marvel Universe site in the Turk entry:

"frequent pawn of others"

And considering the rest of the crew, the Griffin is probably the most interesting character.

[matthewaos]

i would like to see the Hood's team go after punisher, as they said... I would like to see them take some major casualties...:evilsmile :evilsmile :evilsmile

[MAK15]

i would like to see the Hood's team go after punisher, as they said... I would like to see them take some major casualties...:evilsmile :evilsmile :evilsmile

there was a newsarama interview with Bendis saying that the Hood would appear in Punisher:War Journal.
we dont know when, though.

[PunisherFan]

i would like to see the Hood's team go after punisher, as they said... I would like to see them take some major casualties...:evilsmile :evilsmile :evilsmile

Hell yeah, seconded. He needs to kill off some of these lame ass villains. lol nothing beats shooting the Plunderer. I had to search real hard to find that loser's name anywhere. But seriously though the Punisher is taking on the Hood's crew soon, most likely after the Kraven storyline

[matthewaos]

This is what I call good news...:D :evilsmile

[matthewaos]

...Make it also a story in the MAX book, and give it to my for my birthday!!!

[Will.S]

Hell yeah, seconded. He needs to kill off some of these lame ass villains. lol nothing beats shooting the Plunderer. I had to search real hard to find that loser's name anywhere. But seriously though the Punisher is taking on the Hood's crew soon, most likely after the Kraven storyline
I wouldn't mind it if Punisher killed off the Skrull imposters within the group because they would lead to some good reveals. But if the purpose of bringing these villains back were to just kill them off and not use them in any sort of way that benefits the story then it sort of defeats the purpose.

And right now I think the MU really needs a good dose of villains to offset the number of heroes out there and the dead villains that got wasted by the Punisher already.

[matthewaos]

It's good that they are all (most of them at least) z-list. That means that you can kill them or alter them and (almost) no one will care.

[Will.S]

It's good that they are all (most of them at least) z-list. That means that you can kill them or alter them and (almost) no one will care.
LOL

Dude, Deathcry died and people were still like "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!".

[matthewaos]

Yeah, lol, I know, but at least they are not Bullseye and Hobgoblin, you know? That gives the writer some freedom. I mean who really cared for Speedball, and Jack o Lantern (Steven Levins)?

[Xanrn]

Alot of people liked Speedball lol.

But Jack O'Lantern led to Zombie Satan Jack O'Lantarn which rocked.

[PunisherFan]

I wouldn't mind it if Punisher killed off the Skrull imposters within the group because they would lead to some good reveals. But if the purpose of bringing these villains back were to just kill them off and not use them in any sort of way that benefits the story then it sort of defeats the purpose.

And right now I think the MU really needs a good dose of villains to offset the number of heroes out there and the dead villains that got wasted by the Punisher already.

He only killed off 5 villains and that was all months ago. He needs to off some more. I mean Bendis is writing the NA vs. the Hood's crew so you already know that the Owl won't be the only one dieing in that story. Fraction needs to off some in War Journal.... I mean Griffin??? Come on

[Monty_Cristo]

LOL

Dude, Deathcry died and people were still like "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!".

i only did that because i thought they were talking about Deathshead.

[Will.S]

He only killed off 5 villains and that was all months ago. He needs to off some more. I mean Bendis is writing the NA vs. the Hood's crew so you already know that the Owl won't be the only one dieing in that story. Fraction needs to off some in War Journal.... I mean Griffin??? Come on
So what would be the positives of just having Punisher add more notches to his belt? It's that versus the negatives of less villains around that can be used in cool ways in the future unless a writer were to add in his own villains with the ones he/she killed.

[matthewaos]

It's just that you can have a guy like the Punisher, and he only kills mob guys. It's more possible that super villains can elude death more easily though.

[PunisherFan]

So what would be the positives of just having Punisher add more notches to his belt? It's that versus the negatives of less villains around that can be used in cool ways in the future unless a writer were to add in his own villains with the ones he/she killed.

What r the positives of leaving crappy villains alive? I really dont see a writer coming and and saying "I have a really good story for the Plunderer" lol Come on, some of the guys that are going to be on this team are going to be real lame. I'm sure most won't even recognize them, Bendis said this when the story was announced. It was like I hope some people have there Marvel dictionaries or whatever for some of these guys

[Will.S]

What r the positives of leaving crappy villains alive? I really dont see a writer coming and and saying "I have a really good story for the Plunderer" lol Come on, some of the guys that are going to be on this team are going to be real lame.
So uh, why not wait until he actually does something with them first?

[Mark_S]

It would be good and bad if he built them up just to kill them off. It might be bettes if he built them up, let them have a taste of real success and then have them realize that success has it's own problems. Being a successful supervillain is actually harder in many ways than being a failure.

Mark_S

[matthewaos]

That's true actually. But If they go against the Punisher, some of them should be killed. Though if they go against the Punisher, the Punisher may be killed more easily...

[Rahul]

If the Hood's really smart, he'll make a shady deal with the T-Bolts.

His gang could aid in the secretive capture of the unregistered heroes.

[PunisherFan]

So uh, why not wait until he actually does something with them first?

I am. I'm just stating what I'd like to see happen, just b/c you don't agree and want to see these z-listers get built up and then not used again for ten years doesn't mean others have to feel the same way

[Monty_Cristo]

If the Hood's really smart, he'll make a shady deal with the T-Bolts.

His gang could aid in the secretive capture of the unregistered heroes.

if he were smart, he would definately not negotiate with Norman Osborn.

[frilok]

rumoured to be associated with the Hood...

Doctor Jonas Harrow
Madame Masque
Wizard
Crimson Cowl
Wrecking Crew
Chemistro
Titania
Tombstone

im not sure but i think griffen was there too

[Rahul]

if he were smart, he would definately not negotiate with Norman Osborn.
He doesnt have to. What else Moonstone is there for?

[Monty_Cristo]

He doesnt have to. What else Moonstone is there for?

well she's an all-purpose succubus from what i can tell.