Wade & Bob's Bogus Adventure: Nicieza talks "Cable & Deadpool"

[CBR News]

Cable's dead (for now), but Deadpool has a new partner watching his back, Marvel’s newest superstar -- Bob, Agent of Hydra? CBR News spoke with “Cable & Deadpool” writer Fabian Nicieza about the series and its coming conclusion.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=12032

[DaeJi]

I'm sad now :(

[Beast]

It's nice that someone finally said more than "Yes" about the book being cancelled.

It's really a shame it's gone for those who enjoyed and supported it. Even if I'm not one of them.

[DaeJi]

What I can't understand is why Cable is getting his own book, but not Deadpool!!

[Beast]

What I can't understand is why Cable is getting his own book, but not Deadpool!!
Because Axel likes Cable, and he's getting a major serious push from Messiah Complex.

Deadpool will likely eventually get a book, but he's also going to be featured in MCP.

[StoneGold]

What I can't understand is why Cable is getting his own book, but not Deadpool!!

Maybe he will, and it's just further down the schedule?

[Sentinel K]

What really blows, is that Fabian isn't even wrapping this up HIMSELF.

That is a tragedy.

[Nyssane]

Aw this is laaaame! And what's lamer is Fabian's not writing the last two issues?! WHAT?! Now I demand an Anaconda cameo!

I absolutely love the shot of Bob from the preview pages, though. Totally captures his character, haw haw! *goes to put it on his wikipedia*

[CMBMOOL]

Damn, and I was hoping for Deadpool to be involve in World War Hulk. :(

Now I'm sad now. :(

[Clea]

I love Bob, Agent of Hydra. He's a terrific character.

I'm sad that this title is being cancelled.

[Brian M.]

Pretty sad. I'll miss this book. Was really hoping for a Zircher drawn last issue and now w/ Fabian not writing it, it just won't feel right.

[Somebody]

What really blows, is that Fabian isn't even wrapping this up HIMSELF.

That is a tragedy.

INdeed :(

I was really hoping for one last Saviour/Merc with a Mouth double act from Fabes if the shop was being shut... :(

Pretty sad. I'll miss this book. Was really hoping for a Zircher drawn last issue and now w/ Fabian not writing it, it just won't feel right.
Reilly Brown's doing #50, anyway, apparently (http://deadpoolica.proboards13.com/index.cgi?board=cabledpboard&action=display&thread=1186889696&page=1#1189390851).

[Cthulhudrew]

Wow- that really sucks. Knew it was coming, with all the Cable series talk- but still, didn't realize Fabian wouldn't be doing the last two issues.

Hopefully they'll have Joe Kelly do them- that would be a pretty suitable wrapup IMO.

Anyway, very sorry to see this book go. I wonder what Fabian's surprising news is going to be- if it's something at Marvel.

[Dirkner]

SOOOOOOO SAD!

Well there should be a Deadpool and Bob Comic coming next year...I hope!

[Funkdmonkey]

I hope we see Deadpool in the future Cable series, maybe even Bob!

Sucks to see this book go. I picked it up way back then and was honestly surprised. Its a shame the writer can't stick around for the last two issues. He deserves the "milestone" achievement all to himself.

[FortKnox]

Speaking of Cable I hope they have someway of Cable being in the last issue somehow cause it would suck if the book ended without the two main leads in the book together one last time.

[Beast]

I hope we see Deadpool in the future Cable series, maybe even Bob!

Sucks to see this book go. I picked it up way back then and was honestly surprised. Its a shame the writer can't stick around for the last two issues. He deserves the "milestone" achievement all to himself.
Axel seems to not be a fan of the humor elements of Cable/Deadpool especially in regard to Cable.

Hence his push to get Cable out of the book and into a more serious role within' the X-Verse.

[Siddon]

Its all spec right now, but obviously Deadpool is going somewhere, most likely X-factor.

[Beast]

Its all spec right now, but obviously Deadpool is going somewhere, most likely X-factor.
I wouldn't count on that.

[DaeJi]

Deadpool showing up in X-Factor would be everything and a beer. But I don't see it, especially since we don't know how Messiah CompleX will affect the team (giving that Wolfsbane seems to be leaving and joining X-Force).

[Alan Lynch]

God I'll miss this book; it made Cable more interesting to me than years of po-faced melodrama ever did. Deadpool humanised Cable, and Cable gave Deadpool purpose. They worked so well in the same book, and it's sad to see Fabien won't even be finishing the whole thing off.

Deadpool and Bob better not end up in Limbo after this...

[ManSpider]

Deadpool and Bob better not end up in Limbo after this...

hey "Deadpool & Bob" its a catchy title for a new comic.

in all seriousness, this has ruined my day finding out this comics cancelled.
we can only pray DP gets a solo title

what were the sales like on this book? anyone know?

[Jmd211]

hey "Deadpool & Bob" its a catchy title for a new comic.

in all seriousness, this has ruined my day finding out this comics cancelled.
we can only pray DP gets a solo title

what were the sales like on this book? anyone know?

Here ya go, this is from the Beat:

99. CABLE & DEADPOOL
08/04 Cable & Deadpool #6 - 31,033
08/05 Cable & Deadpool #18 - 25,304
=====
08/06 Cable & Deadpool #31 - 59,804 ( +0.8%)
09/06 Cable & Deadpool #32 - 60,177 ( +0.6%)
10/06 Cable & Deadpool #33 - 30,741 ( -48.9%)
11/06 Cable & Deadpool #34 - 29,144 ( -5.2%)
12/06 Cable & Deadpool #35 - 27,785 ( -4.7%)
01/07 Cable & Deadpool #36 - 26,803 ( -3.5%)
02/07 Cable & Deadpool #37 - 26,588 ( -0.8%)
03/07 Cable & Deadpool #38 - 26,258 ( -1.2%)
04/07 Cable & Deadpool #39 - 26,110 ( -0.6%)
05/07 Cable & Deadpool #40 - 26,120 ( +0.0%)
06/07 Cable & Deadpool #41 - 27,431 ( +5.0%)
06/07 Cable & Deadpool #42 - 27,203 ( -0.8%)
07/07 Cable & Deadpool #43 - 26,341 ( -3.2%)
08/07 Cable & Deadpool #44 - 25,944 ( -1.5%)
6 mnth ( -2.4%)
1 year ( -56.6%)
2 year ( +2.5%)
3 year ( -16.4%)

[Brian M.]

God I'll miss this book; it made Cable more interesting to me than years of po-faced melodrama ever did. Deadpool humanised Cable, and Cable gave Deadpool purpose. They worked so well in the same book, and it's sad to see Fabien won't even be finishing the whole thing off.

Deadpool and Bob better not end up in Limbo after this...

Dead on right there. What seemed like an impossible pairing to make work actually now makes complete sense. It took Fabian a while to set it all up but man it just works. It's good stuff.

[killerbass]

Anyone want to guess who's taking Fabian's place? (Well, you know -- writing the last two issues. I don't think anyone could really take his place.)

My guess is Dan Slott. Dan & Fabian are good friends, and now that Dan has a hit, Avengers: The Initiative -- he would qualify as a hipster troublemaker. Plus Dan lives in the NY area, making it easier for him to have lunch with Fabian and Nicole Boose (CDP editor).

Others who wouldn't have a problem (at least in my mind) writing two issues of CDP: Peter David, Matt Fraction, Jeff Parker, Christos Gage...

--Tom

[Hybrid2]

Here ya go, this is from the Beat:

99. CABLE & DEADPOOL
08/04 Cable & Deadpool #6 - 31,033
08/05 Cable & Deadpool #18 - 25,304
=====
08/06 Cable & Deadpool #31 - 59,804 ( +0.8%)
09/06 Cable & Deadpool #32 - 60,177 ( +0.6%)
10/06 Cable & Deadpool #33 - 30,741 ( -48.9%)
11/06 Cable & Deadpool #34 - 29,144 ( -5.2%)
12/06 Cable & Deadpool #35 - 27,785 ( -4.7%)
01/07 Cable & Deadpool #36 - 26,803 ( -3.5%)
02/07 Cable & Deadpool #37 - 26,588 ( -0.8%)
03/07 Cable & Deadpool #38 - 26,258 ( -1.2%)
04/07 Cable & Deadpool #39 - 26,110 ( -0.6%)
05/07 Cable & Deadpool #40 - 26,120 ( +0.0%)
06/07 Cable & Deadpool #41 - 27,431 ( +5.0%)
06/07 Cable & Deadpool #42 - 27,203 ( -0.8%)
07/07 Cable & Deadpool #43 - 26,341 ( -3.2%)
08/07 Cable & Deadpool #44 - 25,944 ( -1.5%)
6 mnth ( -2.4%)
1 year ( -56.6%)
2 year ( +2.5%)
3 year ( -16.4%)

Rob Liefeld do a cover for C&D #33 and 30 000 people drop the book! :confused:

This is sad news.
Worse is that apperently he is'nt doing anything for Marvel anytime soon...

[killerbass]

Rob Liefeld do a cover for C&D #33 and 30 000 people drop the book! :confused:

This is sad news.
Worse is that apperently he is'nt doing anything for Marvel anytime soon...

Um, I am guessing there's sarcasm here...

But just in case, #33 was the first post Civil War tie-in issue.

So in this case, I don't believe it's Liefeld's fault...

--Tom

[DarkCrisis]

Cable was dead weight in that book. DP carried the series.

Sucks, I loved that book for DP.

On the brightside: 1 less book to buy, as I wont be picking up Cables crap.

[Cthulhudrew]

Slott was my first thought, too, but I'm hoping for Joe Kelly (or possibly Gail Simone). Not that I don't like Slott, but I just think it would be nice for one of the regular DP writers to be able to finish the title, since Fabian can't.

[PaxHouse]

Slott was my first thought, too, but I'm hoping for Joe Kelly (or possibly Gail Simone). Not that I don't like Slott, but I just think it would be nice for one of the regular DP writers to be able to finish the title, since Fabian can't.

Funny that you should mention Dan {Slott}, because I just had a thought about where Deadpool just might {and I do mean might} just turn up....

....As part of the Initiative Program...!! :confused: :eek:

Can you imagine the insanity to occur with Wade being recruited {and that's even more outrageous than him joining the GLI[formerly the GLA/-X/-C] }...?!??

[Cthulhudrew]

Honestly, as funny as that would be, I really can't see the Wade being asked to join the Hammond facility. I could maybe see Slott doing it as a one or two issue humor story, but not for anything long term. It would strain the credibility of the what the book is trying to achieve, IMO, and wouldn't be a very good fit for DP either.

[rwe1138]

Geez, first Irredeemable Ant-Man is cancelled, now no more Wade. Is Marvel trying to keep me from spending money on them?

[rwe1138]

Slott was my first thought, too, but I'm hoping for Joe Kelly (or possibly Gail Simone). Not that I don't like Slott, but I just think it would be nice for one of the regular DP writers to be able to finish the title, since Fabian can't.

Sadly, (for Wade & Bob) Gail's DC exclusive, so it won't be her. I'm thinking Slott as well.

[rwe1138]

Funny that you should mention Dan {Slott}, because I just had a thought about where Deadpool just might {and I do mean might} just turn up....

....As part of the Initiative Program...!! :confused: :eek:

Can you imagine the insanity to occur with Wade being recruited {and that's even more outrageous than him joining the GLI[formerly the GLA/-X/-C] }...?!??

The thought of Wade Wilson & Eric O'Grady in the same book gives me a nerdgasm. :D

[ManSpider]

Rob Liefeld do a cover for C&D #33 and 30 000 people drop the book! :confused:

This is sad news.
Worse is that apperently he is'nt doing anything for Marvel anytime soon...

nah, its cos the issues b4 were civil war tie-ins, pulled in alot of non-regulars picked it up (n its how i discovered C&DP :D )

[ManSpider]

Here ya go, this is from the Beat:

99. CABLE & DEADPOOL
08/04 Cable & Deadpool #6 - 31,033
08/05 Cable & Deadpool #18 - 25,304
=====
08/06 Cable & Deadpool #31 - 59,804 ( +0.8%)
09/06 Cable & Deadpool #32 - 60,177 ( +0.6%)
10/06 Cable & Deadpool #33 - 30,741 ( -48.9%)
11/06 Cable & Deadpool #34 - 29,144 ( -5.2%)
12/06 Cable & Deadpool #35 - 27,785 ( -4.7%)
01/07 Cable & Deadpool #36 - 26,803 ( -3.5%)
02/07 Cable & Deadpool #37 - 26,588 ( -0.8%)
03/07 Cable & Deadpool #38 - 26,258 ( -1.2%)
04/07 Cable & Deadpool #39 - 26,110 ( -0.6%)
05/07 Cable & Deadpool #40 - 26,120 ( +0.0%)
06/07 Cable & Deadpool #41 - 27,431 ( +5.0%)
06/07 Cable & Deadpool #42 - 27,203 ( -0.8%)
07/07 Cable & Deadpool #43 - 26,341 ( -3.2%)
08/07 Cable & Deadpool #44 - 25,944 ( -1.5%)
6 mnth ( -2.4%)
1 year ( -56.6%)
2 year ( +2.5%)
3 year ( -16.4%)

thanx for postin btw

[Beast]

Funny that you should mention Dan {Slott}, because I just had a thought about where Deadpool just might {and I do mean might} just turn up....

....As part of the Initiative Program...!! :confused: :eek:

Can you imagine the insanity to occur with Wade being recruited {and that's even more outrageous than him joining the GLI[formerly the GLA/-X/-C] }...?!??
Slott's already taking one cast off member of cancellation, so it's a possibility.

[StoneGold]

Sadly, (for Wade & Bob) Gail's DC exclusive, so it won't be her. I'm thinking Slott as well.

Honestly, where Wade and Bob currently are, it's not really her kind of humor, anyways. I'm praying for Kelly, just because I think he'd be the most interesting choice. And then after Kelly, you can get Priest, and it's just this bizarre looping circle of writers. Wait, no, they'd have to get Waid before Kelly.

[ManSpider]

is there a save deadpool petition i can sign??

[Beast]

is there a save deadpool petition i can sign??
Why? It would be kind of pointless at this point. The current C/D has no real reason to exist. And it's not like Deadpool's going away. We've already been confirmed he's going to be showing up in MCP. And who knows what else they have planend for him. Rallying to save a book that no longer really exists doesn't make sense.

[StoneGold]

The problem is, it's not so much Deadpool I want to save, as FabNic on Deadpool. Or just FabNic on a character with little-to-no filter on his mouth. I always wanted a Deadpool/Fixer/Speedball team up. C'est la vie.


Thing is, if Fabian was leaving the book anyways, it's a matter of finding the right writer who can pull of the character. Because he's not the easiest character to write, and it usually takes a few issues for a writer to really find their voice with the character. Honestly, it took Fabian a good six issues before he was really nailing DP. It took Priest a while. Gail only really wrote Wade to my satisfaction for an issue or two before she killed him off and replaced him with Agency X, which was never up to snuff for me. Except the Fight Man issues, because dude, it was Fight Man!

[The Deadpool]

As I recall it, Fight Man issues weren't Simone. They were Buddy Scalera (the guy who co-wrote the worst Deadpool run to date).

And wow, I feel like the minority here, but I'm glad to see the book go... Although I probably would have prefered FabNic off the book instead. C&D has systematically retconned everything that made Deadpool interesting to me in lieu of slapstick comedy... I'm hoping (against hope of course) PAD comes along for the last two issues and Nightmares everything away again or something...

[ManSpider]

Why? It would be kind of pointless at this point. The current C/D has no real reason to exist. And it's not like Deadpool's going away. We've already been confirmed he's going to be showing up in MCP. And who knows what else they have planend for him. Rallying to save a book that no longer really exists doesn't make sense.

ok - a make sure deadpool gets his own ongoing MCP and after cabl gets his own on going, petition

[Sentinel K]

Why? It would be kind of pointless at this point. The current C/D has no real reason to exist. And it's not like Deadpool's going away. We've already been confirmed he's going to be showing up in MCP. And who knows what else they have planend for him. Rallying to save a book that no longer really exists doesn't make sense.

Beast. Dude.

Why are you bothered? You've said COUNTLESS times you have no interest in this book so why keep coming to piss on people's cereal?

Let it be.

[StoneGold]

As I recall it, Fight Man issues weren't Simone. They were Buddy Scalera (the guy who co-wrote the worst Deadpool run to date).


Evan Dorkin, actually. Who created Fight Man. Scalera wrote the previous issue. My point was I wasn't thrilled with Simone's work on Deadpool/Agent X as a whole. The only good DP issues she wrote was right before she killed off the character, and the only reason I liked Agent X was a fill in featuring a guest star from a funnier book that had a one-shot issue in the early 90s. And was written by Evan Dorkin. Who is funny.


And I can't think of anything that FabNic retconned out. If anything, he was unusual in bringing back old DP characters. He's the only writer since Kelly to bring back Blind Al. If only for a panel, but hey! He brought back Weasel (although I guess Weasel was always his), Agency X (if only to humiliate them, but still), brought up when he was living with Constrictor, the works! The only thing that I can think of that might count is when T-Ray came back, but even then, all he really did was confuse the issue further, for the sake of a joke.

[Sentinel K]

I'm surprised no one has menioned this yet but the following seems like a MASSIVE Speedball clue. Maybe Marvel realised what a shitty character Penance is?

"and in a few months, I expect there will be some more announcements about what I have coming up in 2008. It's a bit too early to talk about it, but I've been walking around with a bubbly smile and a bouncy spring to my step for weeks now. I'm so happy; I think hair is starting to grow back on my head. Oh, wait, that's just my back hair getting long enough to do a comb-over… nevermind… see, still smiling. Not even that could get me down now!"

And it may be a little redundant, but I may as well pimp my C&D thread on the X-Board that has been going for several months if anyone cares.

http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=161864&page=10

[Beast]

Beast. Dude.

Why are you bothered? You've said COUNTLESS times you have no interest in this book so why keep coming to piss on people's cereal?

Let it be.
Where did I ever say I was bothered. Did you read some alternate reality post?

In this case, I was reminding the person in question that Deadpool isn't going away.

So why don't you let it be.

[Sentinel K]

Where did I ever say I was bothered. Did you read some alternate reality post?

In this case, I was reminding the person in question that Deadpool isn't going away.

So why don't you let it be.

The guy wants to save his fave character from limbo. I'm right behind him. if there is a petition i will put my name to it, no matter how pointless or futile.

An appearance in MCP doesn't mean anything and in no way is it (or should be) good enough, as a Deadpool fan.

[The Deadpool]

Evan Dorkin, actually. Who created Fight Man. Scalera wrote the previous issue. My point was I wasn't thrilled with Simone's work on Deadpool/Agent X as a whole. The only good DP issues she wrote was right before she killed off the character, and the only reason I liked Agent X was a fill in featuring a guest star from a funnier book that had a one-shot issue in the early 90s. And was written by Evan Dorkin. Who is funny.


And I can't think of anything that FabNic retconned out. If anything, he was unusual in bringing back old DP characters. He's the only writer since Kelly to bring back Blind Al. If only for a panel, but hey! He brought back Weasel (although I guess Weasel was always his), Agency X (if only to humiliate them, but still), brought up when he was living with Constrictor, the works! The only thing that I can think of that might count is when T-Ray came back, but even then, all he really did was confuse the issue further, for the sake of a joke.

The RetCons were more in terms of character than events, although events HAVE been RetConned.

Hell, first page of first issue had a retcon... Deadpool's superhuman physical stats. They never existed. Deadpool was a failed experiment. He came out of Weapon X with NO powers, a failed attempt at copying the healing factor. It wasn't until he was killed in the Workshop that his healing factor kickstarted... Then there was the healing factor damaging brain thing (even though his healing factor heals his mind as per Agent X), the whole mother dying and father being shot ordeal (even though we've seen his childhood, his father was absent and he killed his own mother), so on so forth...

But the main problem is how the changes affect the CHARACTER. Kelly's Deadpool wasn't a comedy. He was a man who couldn't deal with his guilt. All the horrible things he's done have finally come back to bite him in the ass, and instead of facing them he's running away from them. That's why he's always joking around. That's why he KILLS people.

And when he has to face his crimes, he blames it on someone else. Killebrew, Destiny, T-Ray, whatever. And throughout Kelly's run, Deadpool is repeatedly faced with the fact that he can only blame himself. Killebrew redeems himself and saves Deadpool's life. Fate means nothing without Free Will. And the crux of it all it T-Ray, the event that supposedly caused his descent, and it was all a lie Deadpool tells himself. It was always his fault, all the time.

Then we get FabNic. T-Ray was lying, healing factor makes him crazy so he kills people randomly, his childhood was oh so horrible... And in the end, he Yellow Bug'ed away all of Deadpool's fault. It was always something else that caused it all. Outside factors.

FabNic took a three dimensional character and turned him into your average nineties anti hero. Into a Lethal Protector. He was bad but he had a bad life so it's okay.

I miss the old Deadpool...

"Regardless of what they say in the movies, killing does not get easier the more you do it... That's some screenwriter who'd pass out if he got a paper cut trying to impressive his girlfriend.

Killing someone, 'specially when you have enough time to plan it, order Domino's and do some bathroom reading before the trigger pull -- It's a lot like having your tonsils out... With no anesthetic... Using a rusty fish hook.

[...]

Why would anyone want to take a murder gig, you ask? Because once the tonsils come out... Once you pull the trigger and do it, do the mark, do the deed -- Everything else falls away for a while. Everything gets quiet... Because the world is afraid of you.

I need a little quiet."

[Beast]

The guy wants to save his fave character from limbo. I'm right behind him. if there is a petition i will put my name to it, no matter how pointless or futile.

An appearance in MCP doesn't mean anything and in no way is it (or should be) good enough, as a Deadpool fan.
Which didn't address what I said. And said character isn't going into limbo. He's going to be featured in MCP, and there's already been several clear teases that he'll be getting a book at a later date. In other words, better to rally behind Deadpool getting a new book. Then saving Cable/Deadpool without Cable.

[FabianNicieza]

I'm surprised no one has menioned this yet but the following seems like a MASSIVE Speedball clue. Maybe Marvel realised what a shitty character Penance is?

"and in a few months, I expect there will be some more announcements about what I have coming up in 2008. It's a bit too early to talk about it, but I've been walking around with a bubbly smile and a bouncy spring to my step for weeks now. I'm so happy; I think hair is starting to grow back on my head. Oh, wait, that's just my back hair getting long enough to do a comb-over… nevermind… see, still smiling. Not even that could get me down now!"



Or not.

;-)


-- fabian

[Brian M.]

Or not.

;-)


-- fabian

Do the ladies like back hair is that nicely combed?

[killerbass]

OK, so it ain't Slott who's writing the last two issues of Cable & Deadpool...

The post can be found here (http://www.606studios.com/bendisboard/showthread.php?p=3696994#post3696994).

I'm gonna go for the longshot, and say it's Joe Kelly who's writing the last two issues. He's not writing for DC these days, and well he's sort of a hipster troublemaker, and last I heard he lives on Long Island near NYC...

[StoneGold]

Kelly's Deadpool wasn't a comedy.

I am stunned speechless by this statement.



On to other statements, if it isn't Kelly, the best I can think of is Zeb Wells. He's a hipster troublemaker. He has naughty videos on Youtube.

[Cthulhudrew]

*crosses fingers and hopes it is Kelly, or Fabian, and he's just having one over on us by the mislead. ;) *

[The Deadpool]

I am stunned speechless by this statement.

Read them again and look at the story. It's drama. The main character may be cracking jokes nonstop, but the story itself is drama... And good drama too...

*sighs*

[StoneGold]

Read them again and look at the story. It's drama. The main character may be cracking jokes nonstop, but the story itself is drama... And good drama too...

*sighs*

You missed the last issue he did, right? Where it turns out that everything was a joke and Wade was a right bastard his entire life? Yes, the book had its maudlin moments, but so did FabNic's. Perfect Stranger had its moments of pathos and drama too, but I'd hardly call Balki the star of a drama.

[The Deadpool]

Everything was a joke?!?

Dude finds out the one good part of his life didn't happen to him. Finds out the evil, horrible event he's been using to excuse his actions for decades didn't happen to him, worse it was done BY him. His entire personal microcosm comes crashing down when he's finally forced to face himself as all he's done over the years.

Where's the comedy there?

[Karthak]

Deadpool is one of Marvel's top twenty most popular characters, which makes the treatment this title has gotten from Marvel even more ridiculous.:mad:

[StoneGold]

Everything was a joke?!?

Dude finds out the one good part of his life didn't happen to him. Finds out the evil, horrible event he's been using to excuse his actions for decades didn't happen to him, worse it was done BY him. His entire personal microcosm comes crashing down when he's finally forced to face himself as all he's done over the years.

Where's the comedy there?
Because he was happy with it.



The gag was that all the rest of it was the neutering of Deadpool. It was turning him into Venom Lethal Protector. Oh, he was a good little school teacher until T-Ray ruined his life. Hell no! He was a badass mercenary bastich! He banged mutant whores! After six issues or so of turning Wade into a teddy bear, Kelly gave him his teeth back in the last issue. It's like the Mithras stuff. Sure, it left Wade jaded with what it meant to be a hero. But what did it end with? Him kicking Cap in the goodysack when he was a mind zombie.

[Crimson]

I hope the fill in is Kirkman... I'd like to see him handle Deadpool if we can't have Fabs wrap it up.

[Crimson]

Deadpool is one of Marvel's top twenty most popular characters, which makes the treatment this title has gotten from Marvel even more ridiculous.:mad:

How did your figure that out?

Amongst internet fans? Yeah I can see that... Everyone who buys comics? No, or the book would of sold alot more.

[ivesaidway2much]

How did your figure that out?

Amongst internet fans? Yeah I can see that... Everyone who buys comics? No, or the book would of sold alot more.I don't know. I think he might be right. How many different Marvel characters have solo ongoings right now? I'm not sure if there are 20 of them.

[ManSpider]

Which didn't address what I said. And said character isn't going into limbo. He's going to be featured in MCP, and there's already been several clear teases that he'll be getting a book at a later date. In other words, better to rally behind Deadpool getting a new book. Then saving Cable/Deadpool without Cable.

not to be pedantic, i did jus say save deadpool petition, not C&DP

[Dr. Chaos]

And it's not like Deadpool's going away. We've already been confirmed he's going to be showing up in MCP.
Yeah, about that, Having Deadpool show up in a eight page story is a really ****ty consolation prize.

In any case, Deadpool doesn't belong with the initiative so I can't say I'm really itching to see him pop up in Dan's fabulous new book just yet, I'm still in beggars can be choosers mode right now.

Oh well...guess it's time to just sit back, cry and wait until Marvel can get Kirkman to do a five part Ant-Man/Deadpool series.

[Wade_Wilsons_Tailor]

I really f#$%ing hate Marvel right now :evilangry

Deadpool was the highlight of this book and Cable get's his own series? I like Cable and everything, but c'mon. What the f$#%?

This is beyond horrible news, I'm so pissed I could kick a pony in it's pony n*ts right now.

I mean was Deadpool, or wasn't Deadpool the highlight of this book? So why is Cable moving on and Deadpool isn't? Why isn't Deadpool gonna be apart of this Messiah Complex thing? Do the people at Marvel have a problem with the charactor? Are they hesitant about publishing a book about a anti hero? Are they racist nazi's toward's Wade Wilson? Did Fabian do somthin to piss em off? Are they just d*cks...?

[Insurgent]

Deadpool needs his own book now. Period.

[Liberty Belle Fan]

Still bummed about this cancelation, and just when I was returning to comics after 4 months. Deadpool has a very dedicated readership and it's too bad this series is being canceled. I'm a Cable fan as well, so I'm happy he gets his own book, but I wish they could keep the pair together a lot longer.

[killerbass]

I hope the fill in is Kirkman... I'd like to see him handle Deadpool if we can't have Fabs wrap it up.

I think Kirkman is the favorite to write the last two issues, but it would be really interesting to see one of Marvel's big guns write them.

(Or, as I have previously hoped for, Joe Kelly comes in to write the last two issues. I even emailed Mr. Kelly. How bad have I got it?)

--Tom

[Wade_Wilsons_Tailor]

I think it's evident that Marvel doesn't like the character, I mean he rarely kicks anyone's ass anymore, yet he's this ultimate strategist, has a healing factor just as good as Wolvie's, he has some of the best weapons, but yet...He's always gettin his ass kicked and went from schooling Juggernaut and Tom Cassidy in his early day's, to bein classified as a character that holds no weight like the Great Lake Avengers/Initiative. I did enjoy seein Deadpool given those guys encouragement in the Summer Fun Spectacular. But why not let Deadpool become more of a factor, specifically in battle sequences?

I mean if he wasn't a character being held back by these douche bags, I bet people would fall in love with him, I bet people ARE dying to fall in love with him. I don't know how many times I've heard people say they like him, then when they see how he can't win in big brawls..."he sucks."

I mean take Spiderman, he isn't bulletproof and miracuously he's still alive. Because no one has shot him. Yet Captain America eats a sniper round and is now dead. Captain America, ol blue eye'd, blonde hair, cliche, Captain America. He fought motherf#$%ing Nazi's...not one bullet shot him then. lol God f#$%ing damn it, that sh*t is retarded. I don't even like Cap, I'm just sayin the favoritism is f#$%in retarded. If a sniper can kill this blue eye'd twat, Deadpool might have well been the f#$%in charactor who killed Cap.

Meanwhile, Deadpool, the bad ass that he is, with his fictional talents, can't be allowed to succeed in the Marvel Universe?

So now that I'm done venting and ranting I'll get to my point :p





I saw we forget a petition to bring Deadpool back, I say we make a petition for Marvel to sell the character to D.C. or somthin. I know they got Slade over there, but I can think of at least 15 different ways to present his Character to the D.C. universe, and if I could think of atleast 15, some professional Comic writer could probably think of 50. A character like Deadpool would spice'n up the D.C. universe anyway, or at least I think he would, I don't really read any D.C. but from what I've seen they're kind of bland. They could use a little spice, I mean they got Gail Simone over there don't they? Fabian is gonna be over there right? And Deadpool is his character.

[Insurgent]

No. No Deadpool in DC, that would be selling out.

[matthewaos]

Oh, those are just sad news... Today I was reading the issue with Wolverine and Penetraitor, I was so glad I started again this book. I got the first story, and then I had to drop it, due to money problems. I got back with CW and thought, what the hell, it's a great book! I'm so sad it ends. And not by Fabian!!!!! I first thought that the book will renamed to just Deadpool, or Bob and Deadpool anyway... Bob is such a great character!! They have to make a new book for Deadpool and Bob. He is so great!!

[StoneGold]

I think it's evident that Marvel doesn't like the character, I mean he rarely kicks anyone's ass anymore, yet he's this ultimate strategist,

I stopped reading after this. Ultimate what now? The guy's usual strategy has always been to act all nutso and go in healing factor first.

[Nyssane]

He's always gettin his ass kicked and went from schooling Juggernaut and Tom Cassidy in his early day's, to bein classified as a character that holds no weight like the Great Lake Avengers/Initiative.

How do the GLA hold no weight? They've had several minis and one-shots, so obviously people like them. I'd put Deadpool right up with them in terms of character personalities. Just because they aren't as "badass" as Deadpool might be considered doesn't mean they're not in the same category.

[Wonko the Sane]

I think it's evident that Marvel doesn't like the character, I mean he rarely kicks anyone's ass anymore, yet he's this ultimate strategist, has a healing factor just as good as Wolvie's, he has some of the best weapons, but yet...He's always gettin his ass kicked and went from schooling Juggernaut and Tom Cassidy in his early day's, to bein classified as a character that holds no weight like the Great Lake Avengers/Initiative. I did enjoy seein Deadpool given those guys encouragement in the Summer Fun Spectacular. But why not let Deadpool become more of a factor, specifically in battle sequences?

I mean if he wasn't a character being held back by these douche bags, I bet people would fall in love with him, I bet people ARE dying to fall in love with him. I don't know how many times I've heard people say they like him, then when they see how he can't win in big brawls..."he sucks."

I mean take Spiderman, he isn't bulletproof and miracuously he's still alive. Because no one has shot him. Yet Captain America eats a sniper round and is now dead. Captain America, ol blue eye'd, blonde hair, cliche, Captain America. He fought motherf#$%ing Nazi's...not one bullet shot him then. lol God f#$%ing damn it, that sh*t is retarded. I don't even like Cap, I'm just sayin the favoritism is f#$%in retarded. If a sniper can kill this blue eye'd twat, Deadpool might have well been the f#$%in charactor who killed Cap.

Meanwhile, Deadpool, the bad ass that he is, with his fictional talents, can't be allowed to succeed in the Marvel Universe?

So now that I'm done venting and ranting I'll get to my point :p





I saw we forget a petition to bring Deadpool back, I say we make a petition for Marvel to sell the character to D.C. or somthin. I know they got Slade over there, but I can think of at least 15 different ways to present his Character to the D.C. universe, and if I could think of atleast 15, some professional Comic writer could probably think of 50. A character like Deadpool would spice'n up the D.C. universe anyway, or at least I think he would, I don't really read any D.C. but from what I've seen they're kind of bland. They could use a little spice, I mean they got Gail Simone over there don't they? Fabian is gonna be over there right? And Deadpool is his character.


I almost went Stonegold's way and stopped reading after a while (in hindsight I probably should have). Some of the things said here are just, imo, insanely misguided(or just stupid).
Lets take a look at some of the points you bring up one by one:
-Marvel doesn't like the character: well, thats hard to determine. The book's sales weren't that great(although steady) and there is a big shake up coming in the x-universe that Cable was a part of. DP was an unfortunate victim of that shake up(though I, like many, hope for a new Deadpool and Bob series).
-He rarely kicks ass anymore: Um...what? Who's ass hasn't he kicked aside from a few? Those few would be Cable(can't beat mutant messiah), Wolverine, and Squirrel Girl(can beat ANYone). He still takes merc jobs; he's just trying to do the right thing when he takes them. Trying being the operative word.
-The GLI book: Its a funny book. Seriousness was never supposed to be a part of it. With Deapool's past "association" with them and his insane-itude, the combination just seems right.
-I don't know how many times I've heard people say they like him, then when they see how he can't win in big brawls..."he sucks."
I have heard no one say this ever. I talk to people all over cuz I travel alot, and not one comic fan I know of says they like Deadpool but he sucks cuz he can't win big fights. They love him because of his randomness and the hilarity that ensues.
Now that I think about it, what "big brawls" has he lost?
-Wow. Did you even read Cap 25(or at least read a summary of it)? Aside from that, your last question is why can't Deadpool be allowed to succeed in the marvel universe? Thats the point. He can't. He'll try his best and fail, yet he'll be happy to be just doing his own thing. Thats the beauty of Deadpool. He's a nut. And chimichanga IS a funny word. Right up there with minion.
That is all.

[killerbass]

I saw we forget a petition to bring Deadpool back, I say we make a petition for Marvel to sell the character to D.C. or somthin. I know they got Slade over there, but I can think of at least 15 different ways to present his Character to the D.C. universe, and if I could think of atleast 15, some professional Comic writer could probably think of 50. A character like Deadpool would spice'n up the D.C. universe anyway, or at least I think he would, I don't really read any D.C. but from what I've seen they're kind of bland. They could use a little spice, I mean they got Gail Simone over there don't they? Fabian is gonna be over there right? And Deadpool is his character.

As much as I am disappointed, at least so far, with Deadpool's treatment by Marvel -- I'd much rather that DP remain at Marvel. Marvel's doing a much better job, in general, these days with their books.

--Tom

[Wade_Wilsons_Tailor]

I stopped reading after this. Ultimate what now? The guy's usual strategy has always been to act all nutso and go in healing factor first.

That depends on what you've read...

He out smarted francis by way of puttin dead tree leafs on a icey puddle lol, that ended up being the ultimate destruction of Francis by way of slipping on that frozen puddle and into a f#$%in river. Not to mention when he blatantly showed his strategic talents when he was trying to regain his rep against Taskmaster. (I don't approve of this scenario, Taskmaster is just as much of a bad ass as Wade, I'd love to see Taskmaster get a lil more respect then being created as a 'crutch' for anyone, including Wade.) I mean he outperformed Taskmaster way too easily..

... Deadpool will INFACT make the best out of a bad situation. He couldn't confront Juggernaut and Cassidy at the same time to get what he wanted, so he hung Tom out of a f#$%ing airplane, and threatened to drop him if Juggernaut didn't give him what he wanted. That's Deadpool, Deadpool isn't this permanant goof who's good for a few laughs and a quick ass beating by way of a more familiar Marvel hero. Well, technically that's exactly what he is now, but he shouldn't be that! :mad:
I mean he has the same healing factor as Wolvie, and he uses gun's and swords, two of the coolest weapons you'll ever see in your entire smug life.

Deadpool's grey'ness on the hero and villian spectrum have always enabled him to risk both possitive rep, and negative rep in battle. That was what made Deadpool, Deadpool. But now he get's his ass kicked all the time, he's a reserve member for GLI, and because of that inconsistency, how can anyone genuinely give his charactor a chance? I mean his charactor isn't a picture perfect blonde hair, blue eyed, all American shield wielding clown, he isn't some nerdy passive guy who got bit by a turbo insect, he's a f#$%in MERCENARY.

I normally wouldn't get this heated over a fictional charactor, it's just all these cliche hero type's are beyond boring. I mean I'm 24 lol, haven't read comics since I was in grade school. Then I saw a few Deadpool scans..nuff said lol

[Wade_Wilsons_Tailor]

How do the GLA hold no weight? They've had several minis and one-shots, so obviously people like them. I'd put Deadpool right up with them in terms of character personalities. Just because they aren't as "badass" as Deadpool might be considered doesn't mean they're not in the same category.

GLI and Deadpool were put ina book because the fan base's coexist somewhat. They're both made for Humor. Both are considered joke type's.

I'm only stressin this because the charactor Deadpool has been extremely appealing to me. I just hate that at one moment he was a serious charactor, now that I'm into comic's again, I've been forced to witness him become a gooch of a charactor. He just has so much potential..

[Wade_Wilsons_Tailor]

I almost went Stonegold's way and stopped reading after a while (in hindsight I probably should have). Some of the things said here are just, imo, insanely misguided(or just stupid).
Lets take a look at some of the points you bring up one by one:
-Marvel doesn't like the character: well, thats hard to determine. The book's sales weren't that great(although steady) and there is a big shake up coming in the x-universe that Cable was a part of. DP was an unfortunate victim of that shake up(though I, like many, hope for a new Deadpool and Bob series).
-He rarely kicks ass anymore: Um...what? Who's ass hasn't he kicked aside from a few? Those few would be Cable(can't beat mutant messiah), Wolverine, and Squirrel Girl(can beat ANYone). He still takes merc jobs; he's just trying to do the right thing when he takes them. Trying being the operative word.
-The GLI book: Its a funny book. Seriousness was never supposed to be a part of it. With Deapool's past "association" with them and his insane-itude, the combination just seems right.



lol You have enough text for your point to prove Deadpool is perfect where he is, as I got to make my point that he's no more then a joke. What I type may be "stupid" to you, but I'm not a super comic jock lol. I just know the character. You probably know the colors of Ironman's underwear and what they smell like under his suit, but I wouldn't lol. You probably know the color of Peter Parkers taint, but again, lol I couldn't tell ya..



But I gotta admit, I do get into certain ficitional characters from movies, and now even comics thanks to Deadpool's character. It's just amazing to me how he can be left out out main story lines when he just had a entertaing book, I mean was or was not the Civil War issue of Cable and Deadpool it's peak selling point? Yet no World War Hulk and no part in this Messiah complex book that's coming up wich is starring Cable, a character who was on the verge of becoming a second half of Deadpool? Is Deadpool not a serious enough charactor for either storylines? It just seems retarded to me. I mean I'm not a Marvel Officinado, but I'd like to know if Deadpool's character is, or isn't a serious character in the "Marvel Universe," because then I could personally move on, or hope his character goes elsewhere, or seek out a charactor like his that's more official.



I mean you ask "who's ass hasn't he kicked?" It seem's he can only kick the asses of Taskmaster, Agent X, and human soldiers, who Batman could beat the sh*t out of lol. And a Deadpool and Bob book? I can see Bob as a permanant character along the side of Wade, but for some weird reason...I think he deserves more respect then a "Him and Bob book" lol..


Anyway's, I hope they don't burry his character too deep, cause I'd love to get my hands on him for a movie or a video game. Sh*t, I'd love to see anyone with talent do the same.


They love him because of his randomness and the hilarity that ensues.
question is why can't Deadpool be allowed to succeed in the marvel universe? Thats the point. He can't. He'll try his best and fail, yet he'll be happy to be just doing his own thing. Thats the beauty of Deadpool. He's a nut. And chimichanga IS a funny word. Right up there with minion.
That is all.

Chimichanga was a funny word at one point, wich is probably why it's rarely used now, since that horse has been beatin to death..

I mean c'mon. The character's funny, and that's one of his best qualities, obviously. But what about the feeling you get when you see some crazy fight scene's? And if he can't succeed in the Marvel universe, that mean's his character is no more then comic relief.

You know, Whoopi Goldberg and Billy Crystal were "comic relief." That sh*t is kinda lame, minus the "kinda."

[Nyssane]

GLI and Deadpool were put ina book because the fan base's coexist somewhat. They're both made for Humor. Both are considered joke type's.

I'm only stressin this because the charactor Deadpool has been extremely appealing to me. I just hate that at one moment he was a serious charactor, now that I'm into comic's again, I've been forced to witness him become a gooch of a charactor. He just has so much potential..

Deadpool's been through some serious stuff in Cable & Deadpool.

And at the same time, the GLA have also had some serious scenes, they're not all jokes and laughter. I think the blend of action/drama/comedy makes Deadpool and the GLA very entertaining.

[Sanlear]

Bob, Agent of Hydra needs his own series. :)

[matthewaos]

Bob, Agent of Hydra needs his own series. :)

Can't wait for that!!!

[Wade_Wilsons_Tailor]

Deadpool's been through some serious stuff in Cable & Deadpool.

And at the same time, the GLA have also had some serious scenes, they're not all jokes and laughter. I think the blend of action/drama/comedy makes Deadpool and the GLA very entertaining.

I know, But I'd just like to see Deadpool fall more into his original purpose of being a worthy adversary and a ass kicking machine, while being a grade-A smart ass.

I mean if he has Logan's healing factor, and uses swords and gun's for a substitute for adamantium claws, I think he should be somewhat more of a threat in the Marvel Universe. I don't think he should kick everyone's ass, but he should be a real combatant. That would just be logically more entertaining.

But I really don't think they want a guy with gun's and swords to be a bad ass. Marvel seem's to be more obsessed wtih over the top mutant powers and all that. Not only that, but most little kid's want to see that kind of sh*t lol, they don't wanna see some guy with katana's and gun's making jokes that they don't even understand.

And well, that just sucks lol, Cause Deadpool can be hilarious, and a entertaining ass kicking machine at the same time, sometimes. Sometimes I forget that these book's are made for kids. But the charactor Deadpool, will always be a classic :p

[StoneGold]

I know, But I'd just like to see Deadpool fall more into his original purpose of being a worthy adversary and a ass kicking machine, while being a grade-A smart ass.


Wasn't his original purpose to be stuffed into a suitcase and shipped to Tolliver?

[Sentinel K]

I swear this guy is reading a totally different Deadpool to me.

[StoneGold]

I swear this guy is reading a totally different Deadpool to me.

Pretty much. Half of Wade's appeal is that he's something of a lovable loser. And even when he wins, he usually loses something on a more personal level.

[Deadpooligan]

Wasn't his original purpose to be stuffed into a suitcase and shipped to Tolliver?

C-c-c-combo breaker!

Pretty much. Half of Wade's appeal is that he's something of a lovable loser. And even when he wins, he usually loses something on a more personal level.

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is why Joe Kelly's run needs to be printed in trade. Or Essential Deadpool.

[Wade_Wilsons_Tailor]

Wasn't his original purpose to be stuffed into a suitcase and shipped to Tolliver?

yeah, but that was after some 30 year old virgin reported him..lol

[Wade_Wilsons_Tailor]

Pretty much. Half of Wade's appeal is that he's something of a lovable loser. And even when he wins, he usually loses something on a more personal level.

The fact he takes losses humanizes him, just like how he doesn't use any rediculous powers in battle. It's ok to see him get his ass kicked, cause he's always gettin in the last blow word-wise, that's why I love him. He's surrouned by rediculously over powered douche bags, but he'll still fly head first into a fight even when he's over/out matched. I love to see him go balls to the wall knowin damn well he's f$#%ed. (thats not as gay as it might sound)

But since his first issues of bein that bad ass Merc, he's gradually lookin like more of a goofy punching bag then a thorough figure in battle. I don't wanna see Taskmaster or Sabertooth bein used as crutches for DP, cause Taskmaster is a bad ass too and everyone and their mother slaps Sabertooth up. I don't know, maybe that's ok for most of comic fans, maybe thats how the comic Universe works. You have "those" characters, that despite how creative their talents are, they're just used as crutches and as punching bags every now and then. I mean f#$% do I know? I've only got interested in comics since a couple years ago.

But I'm sittin on my toilet takin a epic twozie, readin his book, and I'm actually zoned in and rootin for Deadpool in battle. Not sayin he should beat the shit out of everyone, but he should showcase more of his talents just for the simple fact he's amazing when he's kickin ass. If not, lol he's the worst mercenary ever. But yeah, the self depricating humor, the bad luck, the losses, bein a despised figure in the Universe, all that...that's what makes me really 'love' the character. But you gotta throw the dog a bone every now and then, lets see some entertaining ass thrashings. As hated and despised of a charator Wade Wilson is in the Marvel universe, imagine if you had to get your ass bruised up by him too?...good times



I think I'm just addicted to those bad ass moments where like, Taskmaster in his Mini-Series, was bein hunt down by IronMan, and Tasky shot a security guard so IronMan would have to tend to him while Taskmaster got away. That's the hot s#$% right there, F@#$ yes it is. That's Merc style. Deadpool hangin cassidy out of a jumbo jet to get that suitcase etc etc. Alex threatening the families of that Japanese mafia in his mini-series lol, etc etc..