Avengers League 10/03/2007 AM Game 11: Will.S vs. Mike Smash! & Ragnarok_2012

[mattbib]

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And now on to our fight...

In the first corner we have Will.S's Team Awesome
(Sersi, Wonder Man, Speed, Songbird, Jocasta, Arachne)

vs

In the other corner is Mike Smash! & Ragnarok_2012's Seven Soldiers of Strategery (Black Panther, Machine Man, Ant-Man, Beast, Falcon, Thing, Wiccan)

Both participants have submitted strategies:

Please do not post or vote until both strategies have been posted and read.

[mattbib]

Step 1:
Opening move, Songbird unleashes a sonic scream making Thing, Wiccan, Beast, Falcon and Ant-Man scream out in pain. I'm giving Black Panther the benefit of the doubt in assuming that with so many battles with Klaw that he'll have earplugs of some sort.

Sersi turns Wiccan into a metal football

Speed punts it at super speed right at the Falcon

Wonder Man locks into battle with thing

Jocasta shields up and shoots laser beams at Beast which makes him go on the defensive.

Songbird follows up with a solid battering ram construct to a dazed Ant-Man which makes him go down for the count.

Arachne steps in to fight Black Panther.

Sersi multitasks and transmutates Machine Man into rusted metal uanable to move.
Step 2:
Black Panther goes for a swipe but Arachne narrowly avoids it and jumps on top of him spinning her psionic web onto his head and pulling back rodeo style. Arachne punches him repeatedly in the back of the head until he's knocked out.

Wonder Man after a long tussle takes Thing's arm and flies upwards. While Simon has Thing's arm to pull towards the sky, with the other he uses it to pound the snot out of Ben until he lets go from the furthest orbital height letting Thing drop like a rock.

[mattbib]

ROUND ONE:

Immediately and simultaneously:

Wiccan forms an electromagnetic lightning bubble around our team. The bubble immediately explodes outwards in the form of a massively powerful EMP (electromagnetic pulse) flashing at light speed all over the battle field, exempting our own team from its effects. This EMP should quickly destroy the electronic innards of Jocasta, taking her down and destroying the circuits of Songbird’s sonic harness. This should leave Songbird practically powerless and take away her flight, sonic and hard light construct abilities, and leave her as a non-powered character with a broken harness and a minor vocal hypnotic power.

Machine Man stands guard over Wiccan as he casts his spell and prepares for the very likely possibility that Speed will try to swoop in at superspeed and his take his brother out fast. Speed’s vibrational powers require a touch to work, so Machine Man will focus on keeping Speed moving if he comes. He’ll unleash a variety of gadgets from his extended hands and chest, including flame throwers, chain guns, high powered adhesive glue cannons and ice projectors. All the while he will be consciously leaking a highly slippery lubricant from his feet, which will quickly form a large puddle around himself and Wiccan. If Speed makes his move, even if Aaron Stack’s gadgets can’t hit him at his speed, he wouldn’t be able to get close enough to either Machine Man or Wiccan without slipping and hurting himself. If this happens, he’ll encase his legs in glue and knock him out with a mechanically extended fist to the mouth. We’re hoping in the confusion and the bullet dodging, that he won’t even notice the puddle. This tactic should also be effective at keeping back other foes like Arachne and Songbird, if they should attack.

The Thing will stand guard over Wiccan as well, preparing for the other likely attacker, Wonder Man. He’ll be prepared to take down Simon if he comes close.

If Wonder Man comes by land:

It’s clobberin’ time. The Thing’s strength (85 tons) may not be an exact match for Simon’s (90-100 tons) but he’s a superior hand to hand combatant and he has a lot of experience fighting stronger foes like the Hulk. In a hand to hand match-up, we have to give this battle to Ben, who will use a lot of his boxing, street fighting and wrestling skills to keep Simon close and keep him on the ground.

If Wonder Man comes by air:

The more likely scenario, at which point Ben will simply rip a big chunk out of the earth and hurl it at Wonder Man. With Simon’s power it wouldn’t likely hurt him, but it’d knock him out of the sky. At which point, it’s clobberin’ time. (see above)

Meanwhile, the split second the EMP hits, the rest of the team charges into battle:

Ant-Man will shrink down to ant-size and grab onto Redwing, the Falcon’s winged companion.

The Black Panther draws his Ebony blade.

The Falcon grabs T’Challa under the arms and carries him into the air, flying full speed directly at Sersi. (In the event that Wiccan’s ability has failed and Sersi has put up an illusion, T’Challa’s enhanced sense of smell should be able to find her.)

Redwing will follow closely, with Ant-Man in tow.

Falcon can fly well over 250 miles per hour on his hard light wings, so even with the Panther in tow, he should be able to cover the 100 yards very quickly.

In mid-flight, Panther should easily be able to deflect any Jocasta blasts, Arachne webs, Soungbird constructs or any attacks from Sersi with the Ebony Blade. Even Sersi’s formidable molecular manipulation abilities come in the form of energy blast from her eyes and hands. The Ebony Blade can absorb or reflect just about any attack and he will use it this way to protect himself and Falcon as they close the distance.

If the opportunity arises and no attacks are aimed his way, he’ll toss a few energy daggers Sersi’s way on the approach. Given the potency of these daggers – they once disabled even the rapidly modulating forcefield of Iron Man and hurt even powered-up Skrulls, we believe that they can damage even Sersi and stun her.

When they reach Sersi, Falcon will drop Panther before her and swoop away at speed. T’Challa will land with a quick slash of the Ebony Blade, in an attempt to give Sersi quick superficial wound across the arm or leg, but nothing life threatening.

At this point, Falcon will command Redwing to dive.

If Redwing manages to dive close to Sersi’s face with a hit and run attack, Ant-Man will leap from the bird to Sersi’s ear canal. His relative size and Sersi’s distraction should provide him enough cover to make the jump undetected. According to the Marvel site, Scott Lang wore gauntlets that fired bio-electric blasts. He will try to enter Sersi’s ear and fire these at full power directly at her ear drum, if possible. If this isn’t enough to knock her out, it’ll certainly cause her a great deal of pain and make it harder for her to fight the Panther or even stand up.

The Beast will sprint into battle. According to Marvel, he can sprint on all fours for short distances at 40 miles per hour (nearly 20 yards per second). He will make a beeline for Arachne, dodging any and all attacks that get in his way. That means leapfrogging over and flipping past any of her teammates. Once he reaches her, he will draw her attention and should she fire any psi-webs at him, he will use them to vault up or “climb” to her, if she’s airborne. She’s strong and fast, but not invulnerable. Hank will use his strength to give her a good double legged kick and drive the wind from her and take her to the ground hard. Arachne may be strong and agile, but Beast has extensive training by both Xavier and Captain America, and has years of experience battling foes more powerful than himself. His agility, speed, skill and Class 5 strength will keep him from getting ensnared long enough to score the knockout.

ROUND TWO:

By this point, Jocasta and Arachne should be down and out. Songbird should be mostly powerless and if Wonder Man and Sersi are still conscious, they’ll be in the middle of some heavy fighting.

If Wonder Man is still standing:

Wiccan immediately takes to the air and joins the Thing’s fight against Wonder Man, He will use his spellcasting ability to neutralize Wonder Man’s ionic flying ability (assuming he is still in action). If Speed is down, Machine Man will spray Simon with an adhesive webbing that will slow him down just enough for the Thing to close to grappling range.

If Wonder Man is down, but Sersi is still standing:

Wiccan will take to the air and join the fight against Sersi, hitting her hard with magical energy and spells designed to bind her eyes and hands, preventing her from using any of her powers.

T’Challa, the Black Panther will continue to hit Sersi with hit and run attacks with a hail of energy daggers so long as she stands, using his enhanced senses to see through any illusions.

Ant-Man will continue to pour the bioelectric gauntlet blasts to Sersi’s inner ear, causing her great pain and making it much harder for her to battle the Panther.

Falcon will aid Machine Man against Speed, if he is still standing. He can fire his cable class from his bracer in an attempt to trip up the Young Avenger, but keeping to the skies to stay out of range of both Speed and Aaron Stack’s line of fire.

The Beast pounces on the largely de-powered Songbird, now without a functional sonic harness and dispatches with her his astounding mutant acrobatics and his bountiful vocabulary.

The moment that a character defeats a foe, they will join the dogpiles on Sersi and Wonder Man.

[Stewy4429]

This may be a dumb question but I was wondering why Songbird's screech doesn't hurt any of her teammates.... I know that Black Panther would be protected, but what about the others?

[Mike Smash!]

This may be a dumb question but I was wondering why Songbird's screech doesn't hurt any of her teammates.... I know that Black Panther would be protected, but what about the others?It would have to. Especially if she's not focusing it, but hitting such a wide spray that it would hit a crowd of people 100 yards away.

I find it fun that we both anticipated a Ben/Simon brawl...however...

http://blog.lib.umn.edu/maasx003/Vikings/images/thing.gif

[Bryson the Red]

This may be a dumb question but I was wondering why Songbird's screech doesn't hurt any of her teammates.... I know that Black Panther would be protected, but what about the others?

I'm assuming it doesn't affect her team for the same reason Wiccan's EMP doesn't turn off Machine Man and Falcons wings.

[Shyft]

I'm assuming it doesn't affect her team for the same reason Wiccan's EMP doesn't turn off Machine Man and Falcons wings.

Wican formed the EMP in a bubble around his team which expelled outwards. It shouldnt have effected them at all.

[Stewy4429]

It would have to. Especially if she's not focusing it, but hitting such a wide spray that it would hit a crowd of people 100 yards away.


I'm assuming it doesn't affect her team for the same reason Wiccan's EMP doesn't turn off Machine Man and Falcons wings.

Wican formed the EMP in a bubble around his team which expelled outwards. It shouldnt have effected them at all.

So basically, Songbird should have hurt her own team, but the way the bubble was constructed, it would not effect his team... right?

[Mike Smash!]

I'm assuming it doesn't affect her team for the same reason Wiccan's EMP doesn't turn off Machine Man and Falcons wings.Wiccan magically exempted his team from the blast by putting them in the "eye of the storm" and having the EMP go outwards.

If I hadn't put that in the strat, we would have hurt ourselves far more than Will's team.

[Bryson the Red]

Thats not how EMPs work. It radiates in all directions from where its detonated, if it was in a bubble form its going to radiate in and out. If we're using comic physics then sure, but like I said, by the same token I'd like Songbird direct her sound waves.

[Mike Smash!]

So basically, Songbird should have hurt her own team, but the way the bubble was constructed, it would not effect his team... right?Pretty much. If Songbird had closed the distance first or had her team shield itself in someway from the effects, he could have done this without Songbird hurting her teammates.

[Mike Smash!]

Thats not how EMPs work. It radiates in all directions from where its detonated, if it was in a bubble form its going to radiate in and out. If we're using comic physics then sure, but like I said, by the same token I'd like Songbird direct her sound waves.But again, it's magical, so it does what Wiccan tells it to.

And I specified and Will didn't. I've used an EMP and didn't specify and had to live with the consequences.

[Stewy4429]

Pretty much. If Songbird had closed the distance first or had her team shield itself in someway from the effects, he could have done this without Songbird hurting her teammates.

I would really like to hear what Will has to say about it, but I was pretty much thinking what you are saying... thanks for clearing that up!

[Stewy4429]

I just skimmed through the strats again and I think Mike really goes indepth with his and I don't have many questions about it... He also covers his team for different kinds of attacks from the same people. Will also had a good strategy, it just doesn't seem as complete. This was a really good battle!

[Shyft]

But again, it's magical, so it does what Wiccan tells it to.

And I specified and Will didn't. I've used an EMP and didn't specify and had to live with the consequences.

for me, the magical nature of Wiccans EMP is enough to convince me of its "bubble" shape.

[Bryson the Red]

for me, the magical nature of Wiccans EMP is enough to convince me of its "bubble" shape.

I just don't see what precedent has been set that shows Wiccan could do anything that complex.

"iwantanelectromagneticbubbleshieldthatonlyburstsou twards. iwantanelectromagneticbubbleshieldthatonlyburstsou twards. iwantanelectromagneticbubbleshieldthatonlyburstsou twards."

[Will.S]

Yeah my strategy was me flying by the seat of my pants so it's not really well thought out. Mike Smash! & Ragnarok did a great job with their team, especially with the EMP thing so kudos to him for such an in depth strategy.

Thanks to Mike, Ragnarok, Stewy4429, Bryson the Red, and Shyft and the rest for your participation. I wish I were under better circumstances to really put more heart into this year's Avengers League but my timing really stunk on this one as my vacation time clashed with the League and unless I came up with strategies and alternate ones I wouldn't be able to do it anyway.

Anyway I truly had a lot of fun reading your strategies and your battles and especially having participated this year. Perhaps next year it'll be a better opportunity to do it again with you guys. To the rest have fun and good luck!

[Shyft]

I just don't see what precedent has been set that shows Wiccan could do anything that complex.

"iwantanelectromagneticbubbleshieldthatonlyburstsou twards. iwantanelectromagneticbubbleshieldthatonlyburstsou twards. iwantanelectromagneticbubbleshieldthatonlyburstsou twards."

id imagine teleportation, the act of transporting large amounts of matter from one point in time-space to another, is just as, if not more, complex than forming and EMP around a small group of people.

[Mike Smash!]

Will, thank you for turning in a strat and such a good one on such short notice.

[mattbib]

Congratulations, Mike Smash! & Ragnarok_2012. You continue in the upper bracket, facing the winner of today's Game 12 next Tuesday morning, October 9, in Game 14.

Will.S, good job. You continue in the lower bracket, facing Shyft next Monday afternoon, October 8, in Game L1/2:L11.

Good luck!