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thronzeblast
09-20-2007, 12:34 PM
Ok so far the hulk as demolished the x-men,avenger's,fantastic four and so on what kind of treatment do you think he is gonna recieve when he make's the inevitable guest appearance in some these book's in the future positive or negative.
Slumber Hulk
09-20-2007, 12:53 PM
I think part of WWH is to set Hulk back up as a paria in the Super Human community. He became to accepted. He needs to be on the outside.
Yes, they need his help sometimes, but it's asking a loose canon to join up. That's the way it should be.
Barnaby
09-20-2007, 01:23 PM
After cutting through the Marvel Universe like hot knife through butter, the Hulk's only option now is fight cosmic entities like Galactus or the Living Tribunal... any other opponent would be just too easy for him...
Kefky
09-20-2007, 01:50 PM
After cutting through the Marvel Universe like hot knife through butter, the Hulk's only option now is fight cosmic entities like Galactus or the Living Tribunal... any other opponent would be just too easy for him...
If he's staying on Earth, he's definitely getting a power level decrease.
Which makes sense, with the whole "splitting hulk" thing marvel's been hinting.
Magneto Rocks
09-20-2007, 01:59 PM
All I can say is, God help the Jade Giant if JMS ever gets him in Thor.
Archmage
09-20-2007, 02:07 PM
please expound on that. Will Thor trade stories with hulk about Iron man's pure EVIL?
Magneto Rocks
09-20-2007, 02:09 PM
please expound on that. Will Thor trade stories with hulk about Iron man's pure EVIL?
No, Thor would just beat on Hulk for 21 pages and then on the 22nd, Hulk would high-tail it like a girl.
:D
Mr Fixit
09-20-2007, 02:09 PM
All I can say is, God help the Jade Giant if JMS ever gets him in Thor.
This...AGAIN!!!
Thor will get a shot in good time no doubt but why is he mentioned in every other thread that is brought up about Hulk?
Archmage
09-20-2007, 02:27 PM
No, Thor would just beat on Hulk for 21 pages and then on the 22nd, Hulk would high-tail it like a girl.
:D
that's better than the 6 pages that iron man got. And notice how fast he high-tailed it out ...wait... he couldn't he had to walk out :cool:
thronzeblast
09-20-2007, 02:33 PM
All I can say is, God help the Jade Giant if JMS ever gets him in Thor.
Just cant let that go huh:)
DaeJi
09-20-2007, 02:52 PM
I hope the Hulk is never trusted by the heroes again, and is only used when they absolutely need him. Other than that every time a hero and him crosses paths it should end in a fight.
Archmage
09-20-2007, 03:06 PM
the same should apply to Tony and company. that man has blinders on...only sees what he wants to see. and he and Reed are supposed to be geniuses...
DaeJi
09-20-2007, 03:10 PM
the same should apply to Tony and company. that man has blinders on...only sees what he wants to see. and he and Reed are supposed to be geniuses...
The difference is that Tony and Reed are working to make things better for everyone, not themselves. In fact I would say that overall Tony's like is worse post-Civil War than pre-Civil War. Sure he has a lot more power now, but at a great personal cost, one that he does feel.
The Hulk is ultimately doing this for himself. WWH is a revenge story after all.
Archmage
09-20-2007, 03:13 PM
The difference is that Tony and Reed are working to make things better for everyone, not themselves. In fact I would say that overall Tony's like is worse post-Civil War than pre-Civil War. Sure he has a lot more power now, but at a great personal cost, one that he does feel.
The Hulk is ultimately doing this for himself. WWH is a revenge story after all.
no... Tony and Reed are working to make things better for everyone based on what they feel everybody needs. Not necessarily the case here. The ultimate sin of power going to their heads. They actually are buying into their distorted view that they are always right and that they are doing the right thing for everyone.
Archmage
09-20-2007, 03:16 PM
The Hulk is ultimately doing this for himself. WWH is a revenge story after all.
No the story is about how their pride and arrogance led them down this dark road. if they didn't play god with other people's lives, this would never have happened. And so close to the civil war is a double indictment against them.
Camron Amaya
09-20-2007, 03:59 PM
This...AGAIN!!!
Thor will get a shot in good time no doubt but why is he mentioned in every other thread that is brought up about Hulk?
Cuz we all know he's clearly superior :D
Mr Fixit
09-20-2007, 04:23 PM
Cuz we all know he's clearly superior :D
Y'know all comments like yours and mags do is reduce an otherwise fine thread into another pointless rumble thread where we would talk about Hulk v Thor again.
No, Thor would just beat on Hulk for 21 pages and then on the 22nd, Hulk would high-tail it like a girl.
:D
Right now, both actually have more in common than they ever have. I think they'd be more likely to sit and talk than fight.
Ok so far the hulk as demolished the x-men,avenger's,fantastic four and so on what kind of treatment do you think he is gonna recieve when he make's the inevitable guest appearance in some these book's in the future positive or negative.
Setting aside the whole red/green Hulk business (because I have NO idea what that's all about), I would expect that once Hulk finds out who really blew up his ship, he's going to be (a tiny bit) sorry that he pounded on the Illuminati. Some of the Illuminati members will be sorry they exiled Hulk, the rest will be, "Meh! Whatever! What a jerk he turned out to be!" about the whole affair. Then, when Hulk shows up in a guest appearance, it will go something like this:
Heroes, "Grr! You were a completely rampaging, vengeful ahole in WWH!"
Hulk, "Dude! I thought they deserved it at the time. Remember, I am only a 5 year old at heart (except when I'm not!)"
Heroes, "Yeah, well...okay, maybe you have a point there. Hey! Look over there! Some Skrulls! Crikey, Hulk! Help us pound them, will you?"
Hulk, "Yeah, okay!"
And then they'll all go off and fight Skrulls together and WWH will be forgotten, except for once in a while, when Hulk will strike a tragic pose, look over into the middle distance, and remember his brief moments of happiness on Sakaar. And then he'll think, "Hey, maybe I should go and thank my old friends for inadvertantly causing me to find a hot chick and be happy for a while, even if it did end badly. ... Nah!" The end. :D
K Von Doom
09-20-2007, 06:42 PM
I think the Hulk will be welcomed.
Heroes: Oh no, Galactus has come to eat our world again! Hulk, help us!!
Hulk: How?
Heroes: Take him off panel.
seekquaze
09-20-2007, 07:32 PM
No, Thor would just beat on Hulk for 21 pages and then on the 22nd, Hulk would high-tail it like a girl.
:D
Normally I am against one-sided fights between known peers even if I favor one character and don't care much or even dislike the other, but something about WWH#4 when combined with the rest of the series just really has gotten to me. Maybe it is that this is the fourth issue straight of other heroes being dumbed down to play the Hulk's game? Maybe it is because I like Dr. Strange and thought Pak contriving the whole Zom thing just for the Hulk to defeat a high-level being and Strange loose is one of the worst bits of story I have ever read? Maybe it is the Hulk's healing factor? Maybe it is all of the above?
But at this point right now I would actually buy a comic where that happened. Heck I would probable even pay double.
DaeJi
09-20-2007, 08:12 PM
I think the Hulk will be welcomed.
Honestly, I think the Hulk will be used, not welcomed.
Kefky
09-20-2007, 08:16 PM
Hate only breeds more hate.
ivesaidway2much
09-20-2007, 10:07 PM
All I can say is, God help the Jade Giant if JMS ever gets him in Thor.We already know God isn't on the Hulk's side. After all he's letting Mark Millar publish a story featuring the Hulk babies.
I hope the Hulk is never trusted by the heroes again, and is only used when they absolutely need him. Other than that every time a hero and him crosses paths it should end in a fight.This would be too awesome for words.
dabig2
09-20-2007, 11:43 PM
I hope Hulk continues shoving his foot up every Marvel hero's ass for the rest of his existence just so I can enjoy the spectacle of the massive flow of tears.
Actually, I'll go with what we've had since the beginning: everyone scared as hell from him, chased continuously by Sampson and his keystone cops he borrowed from Shield, and of course lots of Hulk smash....till they ask him for a favor. Rinse and repeat till we get bored.
shaxberd
09-21-2007, 01:10 AM
The Hulk is ultimately doing this for himself. WWH is a revenge story after all.
It's not just the Hulk's personal revenge. It's also the people of Sakaar crying for revenge for the deaths of millions of their family and friends. It's pretty clear to me that they wanted all of Earth to suffer, and it's to the Hulk's credit and direct influence that it's been limited to just Manhattan and four specific superhumans. Just about every person on that ship was crying out for blood, and I'm amazed that the death toll is as low as it is.
I don't actually know what the death toll is. My count is two, counting one hiveling and the Arch-E-5912, both casualties on the Hulk's side. And one of them is a robot so possibly still less than the Civil War casualty rate. Anyone have additional numbers?
Hulk Strongest One
09-21-2007, 12:18 PM
No, Thor would just beat on Hulk for 21 pages and then on the 22nd, Hulk would high-tail it like a girl.
:D
Nah, recall Iron Man, "Been working out?" "No, I just don't hold back anymore..."
Thor hits Hulk...hard. Says he doesn't "hold back anymore." Hulkl responds, "Neither do I!'" (Crunch). Hulk then walks away from a pile of crunched bones. Not killed, mind you. He leaves Thor alive because he "doesn't kill". :)
Badfish40oz
09-21-2007, 12:48 PM
The difference is that Tony and Reed are working to make things better for everyone, not themselves.
Most dictators would tell you the same thing.
Magneto Rocks
09-21-2007, 12:54 PM
Right now, both actually have more in common than they ever have. I think they'd be more likely to sit and talk than fight.
Well *RIGHT* now it's the middle of World War hulk so there's no question he'd beat the crap out of Hulk. But maybe after the war... ;)
Most dictators would tell you the same thing.
As would most Saints and Mahatma Gandhi.
r hits Hulk...hard. Says he doesn't "hold back anymore." Hulkl responds, "Neither do I!'" (Crunch). Hulk then walks away from a pile of crunched bones. Not killed, mind you. He leaves Thor alive because he "doesn't kill".
Thor then wonders why Hulk thinks a punch that couldn't take out Iron Man's armour in one will work on a God and teleports the jade giant into a black hole where his molecules are shredded and spread across the Galaxy in a lovely, flower shaped pattern. :D
trickster
09-21-2007, 01:33 PM
The difference is that Tony and Reed are working to make things better for everyone, not themselves.
Suuure. That's what they all say, but it's always about THEY want or think.
Tony and Reed are working to make things better for everyone based on what they feel everybody needs
Right on. Which somehow still entails that they are better and they should decide what's wrong and right.
So do parents. "Hey it's for your own good!" I remember watching a documentary about Jennifer Lopez. She was taking dancing lessons and her mother came and litterally dragged her out of there. She didn't want her to become a dancer, guess working as a latina store clerk would have been better than being rich and famous and having an enjoyable career. So I never believe it for a second when someone says they do things for others, and not for themselves.
thronzeblast
09-21-2007, 01:40 PM
The difference is that Tony and Reed are working to make things better for everyone, not themselves. In fact I would say that overall Tony's like is worse post-Civil War than pre-Civil War. Sure he has a lot more power now, but at a great personal cost, one that he does feel.
The Hulk is ultimately doing this for himself. WWH is a revenge story after all.
The road to hell is paved with good intention's,Just because they are two very smart guys does not make them right and just because your willing to take responsibility for an action does not make that action correct.It mean's your willing to take responsibility for the choices you make.
shaxberd
09-21-2007, 02:20 PM
Right now, both actually have more in common than they ever have. I think they'd be more likely to sit and talk than fight.
I think a meeting between Donald Blake and Bruce Banner would be AWESOME. Then again, I think a fistfight between Donald Blake and Bruce Banner might also be fun, but a discussion would probably be more interesting.
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