Avengers Classic #4

[Big Red Spider]

Quick question, did avengers classic #4 come out wednesday?

I had it on my pull list, but it's not in my pile I picked up. Was it delayed? or do I need chew on my LCS?

[mattbib]

It was on Diamond's confirmed shipping list for this week. However I dont' know for certain either as I haven't been to my LCS in several weeks.

[drwho]

I dont buy it, but my comic store did have it.

[Big Red Spider]

Thanks guys.

[Kirk G]

Yes, I got the only copy at my LCS. The story faithfully tells Avengers #4 with Cap returning to the silver age, but it also has a contradictory back-up story about how Cap proves to SHEILD's satisfaction that it is really him, Cap in the flesh.

However, the error when they show Cap going through his back effects, trunks, crates, and finds his triangle sheild. This was shown to great effect in Captain America 247(?) in a story by John Byrne that was just reprinted in War and Rememberance! So, Marvel should have had this ON HAND, and noticed that the scene had already been done in a nother place and time.

Booo! Poor continuity!

I don't know how many more of these I can afford. The cost of a reprint and marginial new back-up material. Maybe I can wait until 5 or 6... but beyond?

I suspect sales will kill this effort by issue 16...

[Deadpooligan]

My first time reading the return of Cap, and man was this a cool read.

Though, I do have a long way to go and a lot of dollars to spend before we hit Taskmaster.

I'll be so old by then! Egads!

[killerbass]

My first time reading the return of Cap, and man was this a cool read.

Though, I do have a long way to go and a lot of dollars to spend before we hit Taskmaster.

I'll be so old by then! Egads!

Lessee, you'd probably be about my age. So old?!

Why I oughta beat you with my cane, or throw my prune juice at ya!

Too bad my arthritis is acting up...

--Tom

[Den]

Broke down and got this one myself despite having the Essentials it was reprinted in as well. Sweet nostalgia :)

[anthony!]

I'm reading these for the first time and I have to say I'm enjoying them much more than I thought I would.

Kirby's art looks amazing, and its nice to actually read a comic that doesn't take under five minutes to get through. Its a bit repetitive, but its "thick" enough that I actually enjoy going back and re-reading. They should reprint the original letter pages too!

I've enjoyed the back-ups as well, though the Oeming art I find to be a bit weak and rushed-looking. However, its a great contrast to compare the "new" story to the "old".

I agree this series won't last that long. It will die around issue 12 or 16...I understand sales have not been good.

[Will.S]

My shop sold out but hopefully I'll score one this week.

[Daouda]

Interesting reading Namor continually being referred to as "a mutant" and "the worlds first mutant" in a story written in 1964!

The byline of Namor's series in the 90's apparently goes back to the early Marvel U.

I liked the charactewr study of Cap at the end as well.

I have the Essential Avengers but am surprised to be pleased by these issues also.


Excelsior!

Daoud

[icctrombone]

It'll be a shame if this series went away. In the 70's i bought the Marvel triple action series that reprinted the early Avengers issues and that's how I got hooked on the Original 5 and cap stories. This book should stick around for this generation to enjoy.

[Dark Ben]

Yes, I got the only copy at my LCS. The story faithfully tells Avengers #4 with Cap returning to the silver age, but it also has a contradictory back-up story about how Cap proves to SHEILD's satisfaction that it is really him, Cap in the flesh.

However, the error when they show Cap going through his back effects, trunks, crates, and finds his triangle sheild. This was shown to great effect in Captain America 247(?) in a story by John Byrne that was just reprinted in War and Rememberance! So, Marvel should have had this ON HAND, and noticed that the scene had already been done in a nother place and time.

Booo! Poor continuity!



You know you shouldn't really consider the back-up as canon (for now at last) or I wouldn't know how the two back up stories from the first would fit (espescially the Lee/Maguire story)

[The Shadow]

I haven't read my copy of Avengers #4 in ages so this was fun to read again. Seeing Kirby's art on classic Cap was also awesome!

[drwho]

What I'm hoping for more than anything is that the new stories are released in a trade like they did with x-men classics.

[Big Red Spider]

They should reprint the original letter pages too!


That would be awesome.

[drwho]

There is always the avengers 44 yrs of comics dvd rom. they have it all plus much cheaper.

[Kefky]

You know you shouldn't really consider the back-up as canon (for now at last) or I wouldn't know how the two back up stories from the first would fit (espescially the Lee/Maguire story)

The Lee\Maguire back-up was obviously meant to be just for fun, but I don't see why McDuffie back-up can't be in continuity.

Also, the triangle shield was in there for a single panel, and nobody even mentions it. Maybe Oeming just drew it for fun without caring about continuity much.

Oh, and the lettercols are getting reprinted from the next issue on.

[Kirk G]

Broke down and got this one myself despite having the Essentials it was reprinted in as well. Sweet nostalgia :)

You know, this issue of Avengers #4 vol. 1 was reprinted as a Marvel Milestone edition within the last few years... complete with silver border and inflated price!

I don't understand why they keep issuing these "Marvel Milestone" issues!
The whole damn thing reeks of squeezing as many bucks out of younger collectors as possible.

For the money, I would recommend hunting up a Marvel Masterworks for cheap on the ebay auction and scoring them that way.... that way, you could enjoy the Kirby goodness in one fell swoop.

But to read the whole storyline, I'd argue for the Essentials... not only do you get the artwork, but you'd also get the first 20 for a fraction of the cost.

I always thought that the first Avengers Essential should have run #1-24 or 25.

The next one would make sense to run 25-50 or 51.

Admittedly, they would be fatter, but you'd get the complete sequence of Cap's Kookie Quartett getting their groove and several important arcs complete... not the lease of which are the first Swordsman pair, the road back pair, the Hercules year, and the return of Giantman, both as Goliath and then as Giantman in (what?) 51 or 52...

[Big Red Spider]

Oh, and the lettercols are getting reprinted from the next issue on.

Friggin' Sweet!