X-men as Avengers

[ChemicalReaction]

Hey guys, first topic so go easy.
Which X-men do you think would fit in well with the Avengers and why? Which team- New or Mighty?
Storm seems like an obvious example, but she's off doing her thing with the FF.

[Karl H]

Leave Wolvy on New Avengers (and preferably away from the other teams)

Let Jean go on the Mighty Avengers.

[Jmacq1]

Jean with the Mighty Avengers would be an interesting fit, as it'd force her to develop in ways other than her typical "X-Men Den Mother" role. I don't really see her kowtowing to Tony Stark, though.

I'd like to see Havok branch outside of the X-sphere. It'd be nice to see him in an environment where the looming shadow of his older brother is far less prevalent. In mutant circles he's almost always going to be unfairly labelled "second best."

But really, with a few exceptions I think just about any X-person could potentially be a good/interesting Avenger. It just depends on how its' written.

The exceptions of course being those people that are so completely wrapped up in the X-mythos and the mutant struggle to divest themselves of it. Which basically amounts to Xavier and Cyclops. And probably Emma in the sense that her personality just isn't likely to fit well on any particular Avengers team.

[The Sword Is Drawn]

Jean Grey.

If she were alive, obviously.

With power levels that high she's kind of outgrown the X-Men, to a degree. It would be interesting to pair her with foes of a similar power level, and the Avengers is one of the best places to do that.

And hell, Logan's already there... :rolleyes:

[XPac]

I've been a fan of Marvel Adventures Avengers for a while... so I think Storm would make a good Avenger. The FF thing obviously won't last once McDuffie is out of there.

I suspect she'd be a better fit in Cages New Avengers... Storm and Iron Man didn't quite see eye to eye in a lot of things during Civil War. I can't see her joining his team unless it's flat out to keep an eye on him.

[Karl H]

I'd love to see someone like Forge or Cecillia Reyes turn up in a supporting role in the Initiative. (I realise we've already seen Beast and Dani there).

How about Cannonball or Iceman as Mighty Avengers? Arguably they're powerful enough.

[Novaya Havoc]

Storm.

Dazzler.

Both would be fantastic.

[Karl H]

Storm.

Dazzler.

Both would be fantastic.

Dazzler on New or Mighty.

I always liked the idea of Dazz being on New pre CW.

[all cyked up]

I think it would actually be fun to move Cyclops from the mutant sphere and make him leader of the Avengers for a while. Interesting study of how a different style of leadership would transfer to another team.

[XPac]

I think it would actually be fun to move Cyclops from the mutant sphere and make him leader of the Avengers for a while. Interesting study of how a different style of leadership would transfer to another team.

I'd be weird though, cause he's headmaster of Xaviers.

I can only see Cyclops leaving the X teams if maybe Xavier returns to reclaim the school and Cyclops throws a hissy fit and leaves.

He'd be a great trainer in the Initiative, now that I think about it. Training heroes is certainly something he knows a lot about.

[Don Quixote]

Jean or Storm would fit in on the Mighty Avengers. Perhaps Cyclops or Havok as well. They're all powerful enough to fit in with the likes of Ms Marvel and Iron Man.

For the New Avengers, the best fit into the current team, apart from Wolverine, would probably be Gambit. A relatively 'street level' character, without powers that would be too overwhelming for the team.

[Harlock]

I always enjoyed reading The (New) Defenders when Iceman, Beast and Angel were all on the team. I think any of them could make good Avengers. And, Angel is certainly lacking exposure right now. I'd love to see someone be more creative with him rather than using him as transportation for non-fliers.

[Fatguy]

Obviously, Beast would be an awesome choice. I would LOVE to see him join an Avengers team again. Also, Archangel or Polaris would be good. Polaris in particular would be sweet, she certainly has the power.

[Jack Flash]

Polaris would rock. Specially with how her bro and sis turned out as Avengers.

I'd love to see Bishop try out and get rejected.

Skids would be a good addition to any team!

[Karl H]

Polaris would rock. Specially with how her bro and sis turned out as Avengers.

I'd love to see Bishop try out and get rejected.

Skids would be a good addition to any team!


BoldedFor the win!

But I still don't think she's their sis.

[Christopher O]

Storm.

Dazzler.

Both would be fantastic.
I agree. Dazzler should definitely be in New Avengers, and I'd love to Storm in Mighty Avengers, clashing with Tony Stark.

[Jack Flash]

dazzler should totally hook up with Iron Fist.

[Fatguy]

lol I'm sorry, but that would be freaking sweet :cool:

Only a super stud like Iron Fist could go from fabulous Misty Knight to a disco queen.

[Christopher O]

dazzler should totally hook up with Iron Fist.
Sweet Christmas! I can dig!

[CE_Rap]

I think Beast would be great to be back in the Avengers---hooked up with his body Wonder Man, like teh good ol' days. But I suppose he's needed where he is.

Storm on Avengers is an easy answer. So is a "living" Jean Grey. Dazzler's an interesting choice that i don't disagree with.

OH--you know who'd be great on Avengers---WOLVERINE:p

[rajincajun689]

I'd be weird though, cause he's headmaster of Xaviers.

I can only see Cyclops leaving the X teams if maybe Xavier returns to reclaim the school and Cyclops throws a hissy fit and leaves.

He'd be a great trainer in the Initiative, now that I think about it. Training heroes is certainly something he knows a lot about.

yeah but keep in mind that Cyclops thinks that SHRA/ The Initiative is a bad thing. Can't wait for him to verbally pwn Iron Man in Messiah Complex...

[rwsmith]

Beast, Bishop or Havok on the Mighty Avengers

Wolverine, Storm or Cable on the New Avengers

Any of those would work IMO. In fact, before they cancelled Cable/Deadpool, I thought that a great way to raise the profile for those two characters would've been to put them on the New Avengers in place of Wolverine and Spider-man. Think about it. They could play the same roles that Logan and Spidey currently play on the team, and it would help raise the profile of two less popular characters instead of continuing to push "The Big Two." IMO this would've been a brilliant move.

[Christopher O]

Any of those would work IMO. In fact, before they cancelled Cable/Deadpool, I thought that a great way to raise the profile for those two characters would've been to put them on the New Avengers in place of Wolverine and Spider-man. Think about it. They could play the same roles that Logan and Spidey currently play on the team, and it would help raise the profile of two less popular characters instead of continuing to push "The Big Two." IMO this would've been a brilliant move.
I doubt it. Wolverine and Spider-Man are largely the reason for the huge success of New Avengers. Cable and Deadpool don't pull those kinds of numbers. I'd say it's more likely to have been disastrous than brilliant.

[rwsmith]

My point being that Cable and Deadpool could've capitalized on the current success of the New Avengers and perhaps become more popular as a result of being put on the team. I'm not saying they should've done this from Day 1, because in that case you are absolutely right. But now that the Avengers are the top franchise, I think Marvel could afford to take Spider-man and Wolverine off the team. I really do. I mean, look at Mighty Avengers. It sells very well, and neither of them are on that team.

This way Marvel could actually build-up Cable and Deadpool so that they're A-list characters (or darn close to it), the same way Bendis was able to do this for Luke Cage and Jessica Drew. Which, I think, is what Axel wants to do with Cable anyway (not sure how he feels about Deadpool, though).

Regardless, you know I don't mind Wolverine being on this book. I just think if Marvel were to push some other characters a little harder that they might be able to create another sales juggernaut like Spidey or Logan.

[Fatguy]

My point being that Cable and Deadpool could've capitalized on the current success of the New Avengers and perhaps become more popular as a result of being put on the team. I'm not saying they should've done this from Day 1, because in that case you are absolutely right. But now that the Avengers are the top franchise, I think Marvel could afford to take Spider-man and Wolverine off the team. I really do. I mean, look at Mighty Avengers. It sells very well, and neither of them are on that team.

Yea, but I think thats more to do with Cho and Bendis having really big fanbases than the characters themselves.

Cable I could maybe see as an Avenger, but I dont think Deadpool would be a good fit at all. I would like to see DP on an X-Men team though...

[rwsmith]

Yeah, he could work as an X-man also. But I think DP would be hilarious on the New Avengers. Especially written by Bendis. He'd be like Spidey, but much more ridiculous.

And Cable would give them not only a grizzled hardcase (to replace Wolverine), but also a much needed "tech guy" to help them out against Stark and his goons. As of right now, the NA are really low-tech.

[jmc247]

Polaris would rock. Specially with how her bro and sis turned out as Avengers.


I can see the look on the Avengers faces right now.

Yah, we had trouble searching for a new Avenger. We found and signed up another progeny of Magneto, don't worry she already went through her insane period a few months backs.

[mcgaffer]

I could see Cyclops as a leader of the Avengers, eventually. I think Stark would like to recruit Shadowcat, trained ninja, computer genius and a powerbase that's essentially an ace in the hole. How many teams actually prepare for Shadowcats power outside of X-Men foes. Id also love to see Nightcrawler in New Avengers even though they do need a serious power upgrade. Basically it would be one step closer to my dream team. Spider-Man, Wolverine, Human Torch, Iceman, Nightcrawler, She-Hulk and Ms.Marvel.

[Diablito]

I want Deadpool and Cable on Avengers team. Sunfire could also be good, since he has the right attitude and powerset to be part of the New Avengers.

[jarrod]

For some reason I tend to lean towards the uberpowered establishment X-ladies (Jean, Lorna, Ororo, Betsy). Lorna especially now, maybe trying to in some small way make up for what her family's done to the Avengers.

Dazzler would work well with the New Avengers too imo, given their retro heavy lineup.

[ChemicalReaction]

From what I've read of Dazzler, I agree she would be a good avenger. Didn't she guest in she-hulk? I'd like to see those two on the same team.

[Monty_Cristo]

Shortpack because he has mad espionage skills.

[Toboe]

Storm and Black Panther would make so much more sense on the Avengers than on the Fantastic Four. Maybe because, for me, the FF are Reed, Sue Ben and Johnny. I do not like the idea of substitute members, they're supposed to be a family and all.

Anyway, I'd actually like to see Storm on the Mighty Avengers bitching around Tony and being all lesbic with Ms. Marvel. I suppose Black Panther would have to go along too. I don't care much for him but he has a nice visual and would be an interesting addition to the team as well.

And Wolverine, of course, who is great on New Avengers. If only he didn't appear in like 456 other books at the same time.

[XPac]

yeah but keep in mind that Cyclops thinks that SHRA/ The Initiative is a bad thing. Can't wait for him to verbally pwn Iron Man in Messiah Complex...

I'm actually suprised that Cyclops would verbally stand up to Tony after sitting out Civil War doing nothing. Then would have been the time to verbally voice his feelings about the Initiative. Doing it now is basically Cyclops wasting everyone's time.

[mcgaffer]

To me the X-Men made a strong statement by being neutral in the Civil War. They refused to help the Pros and in doing so strongly hinted their displeasure at being drafted against their will because their mutants. They refused to help the Antis on the basis that when the government brought forward such bills as the mutant registration act the non mutant heros were'nt exactly falling over themselves to help or show support for the mutant community and that includes Cap America. Nevertheless the X-Men CivilWar mini showed a hint of where some X-Men would stand if there were'nt neutral, Cyclops to me seemed very Anti. Then again he has spent most of his life opposing the gov.

[XPac]

To me the X-Men made a strong statement by being neutral in the Civil War. They refused to help the Pros and in doing so strongly hinted their displeasure at being drafted against their will because their mutants. They refused to help the Antis on the basis that when the government brought forward such bills as the mutant registration act the non mutant heros were'nt exactly falling over themselves to help or show support for the mutant community and that includes Cap America. Nevertheless the X-Men CivilWar mini showed a hint of where some X-Men would stand if there were'nt neutral, Cyclops to me seemed very Anti. Then again he has spent most of his life opposing the gov.

All I can say is Storm demonstrated to my why she should be leading the Xmen instead of Cyclops. Regardless of whether you believe Storm was right or not in her opinion, she put her money where her mouth was.

[verybored3]

bishop would be an interesting add to the avengers as would cannonball or forge or especially cable

[mcgaffer]

Storm may of put her money where her mouth was but Cyclops stayed with the kids making sure Tony did'nt just march them into the Initiative.

[rwsmith]

I want Deadpool and Cable on Avengers team.

Glad someone agrees with me, at least.

[Schuimend Mormel]

Dazzler on the New Avengers would be great if the whole Initiative mess dissolves itself and the Avengers can be a public, popular group again, and not either an underground team or a registered team that people are forced to look up to.

Dazzler could well belong to Earth's mightiest heroes.

She had her own series, and all.

[thronzeblast]

I'd love to see someone like Forge or Cecillia Reyes turn up in a supporting role in the Initiative. (I realise we've already seen Beast and Dani there).

How about Cannonball or Iceman as Mighty Avengers? Arguably they're powerful enough.


I dont know that it has to be about power level's I mean they have black widow and wasp on the team.

[XPac]

Storm may of put her money where her mouth was but Cyclops stayed with the kids making sure Tony did'nt just march them into the Initiative.

That's awefully brave of Cyclops considering that Tony wouldn't have bothered because those kids were ALREADY registered. But hey, if that makes Cyclops feel more useful then more power too him.

[Don Quixote]

That's awefully brave of Cyclops considering that Tony wouldn't have bothered because those kids were ALREADY registered. But hey, if that makes Cyclops feel more useful then more power too him.

Seems to me it was Emma who stood up to Stark. Cyclops was nowhere to be seen.

But then, having read that Brubaker interview, I know that Cyke is finally going to man up and put Shellhead in his place.

[ChemicalReaction]

Yeh Emma was the one telling Tony to f%&* off.
As usual.
Cyclops was no doubt looking for his testicles.

[Harlock]

Yeh Emma was the one telling Tony to f%&* off.
As usual.
Cyclops was no doubt looking for his testicles.

He wont find them. When he "discovered" himself at puberty, his powers manifested and well, he looked at them and zapped them off.

[steve2275]

not a fan the a/x men

[Polaris Rocks]

Yeh Emma was the one telling Tony to f%&* off.
As usual.
Cyclops was no doubt looking for his testicles.

Cyke had balls? Who knew?

[Porcelain]

Cannonball would fit really well into Might Avengers from a personality perspective and they could provide direction and/or a platform for Polaris.

Politically I think Mighty Avengers needs an obvious physical mutation on board. After years of the mutant menance, then bringing in the SRA due to superhuman heroics, Mighty Avengers should be showing solidarity to their 'brave new world'. It's ironic really, even with the now limited numbers of mutants, there's probably still a heckuva lot more mutants than para-humans. Ofcourse then there's the debate of the tick box issue (because we don't live in a perfect world with perfect proporations) and who would fit the team and would be worthy of it?

Would personally love to see Psylocke rock up to New Avengers just for the hell of it :D Would result in Ninja/Kung Fu overload unfortunately, but it could be amazing for her. Adrenaline junky, plus add in her warrior/hero related issues with the fact her means to an end aren't always the correct choice and there's loads of material.

[jester1436]

Dazzler totally. She turned the Avengers down twice. Third time is the CHARM. I'd see her on either team really, she's familiar with most of the folks on both line-ups.

Storm would be fun maybe.

I wouldn't mind Polaris as an Avenger either. She could take Havok with her and they could carve their own names as heroes, outside of the Cyclops & Phoenix-lite that they often get smashed with in X-Men.

I hate Wolverine as an Avenger because I hate characters having multiple overlapping teams. It doesn't work for me. I mean, he's dead. He's Wolvenom. He's getting a new teen sidekick and facing Breakworld. It'd be great if he was consolidated as a character so that he could be just a little bit more coherent as a character.

Cannonball would be a fantastic Avenger too.

[HotRod_Tim]

Beast on the Mighty team would definitely be a nice mix. Especially if they were to clash with the New Avengers team with Logan on it. Plus, it would be great to see the pair of Beast and Wonder Man back in action.