GA/Black Canary wedding special (SPOILERS)

[Nintendite]

Well, all I have to say is that A) that was better then I thought it would be, B) OMG, SNAPPER CARR and C) The secret Skrullian invasion of the DCU continues...... or maybe it's just Everyman.

[Deadpooligan]

Amanda Conner's art is a 15 on a 1-10 awesome scale.

The humor in like, every page is just so good. I mean, in the two-page altar spread, you've got Beast Boy and Guy Gardner checking out the skin-bearing babes (Power Girl and Starfire, respectively).

And fishnet stocking wedding gowns? Awesome.

And Snapper Carr is still an unbelievably total loser. But that moment was hilarious.

"Dude! I can't believe they invited me! *SNAP*"

[Harlock]

This was a nice read. I am glad I decided to add Black Canary and Green Arrow to my pulls and dabble in the DC end of the spectrum.

[TotalWorldDomination]

I've got to say, this was one of the best books I've picked up from DC in a while, and I've generaly been liking DC lately. It was funny, action packed and Amanda Conners art was fantastic. I'm actualy looking forward to the GA/BC book now (dispite me having a historic distaste for GA). Good work overall.

[ColdFury]

I'm gonna have to be the voice of dissent. Don't get me wrong, I loved the comic, but the ending was so absolutely awful I don't know where to start. There's only one set of answers to the questions it raises that I like, and given DC's behavior and temperament lately, I doubt that answer will be the one chosen.

(This is a spoiler thread, right? So be warned)

It's just so god ****ed frustrating that they have this happy, long built to event, and they build up to it in this huge fashion, and I know that this is an ongoing story and I know there will be trials and tribulations but it feels like they stole the happy ending right out from under the characters' noses. What happened to the 'brighter' DC post IC. That didn't JUST mean making Bruce less of an ass, you know. Having the Bride kill the Groom on the wedding night (unless there's a direct reference I'm missing that points out this wasn't Ollie, I'm not taking any bets that it isn't until next month's BC/GA issue) is downright MORBID. It's awful, it's horrid, and it ruins this sense of fun and whimsy that has built up over the past few issues for me.

I don't know if I'm going to continue into the series. If it wasn't for Booster Gold and Green Lantern kicking so much tail I might just drop DC from my pulls entirely and save myself a few bucks.

But that's just my take.

[The Batman]

The reaction to this on the DC Boards is almost universally negative - though isn't it always?

Personally I enjoyed this issue, it was great to see all the heroes get together and Conner's art just sold it, and I'm curious to see just what the hell is up with that ending.

[Gottaluvit]

The reaction to this on the DC Boards is almost universally negative - though isn't it always?

Personally I enjoyed this issue, it was great to see all the heroes get together and Conner's art just sold it, and I'm curious to see just what the hell is up with that ending.


Anything written by Winick will garner negitive reactions on the DC boards, often by the same outspoken posters, some of whom are useing sock puppets to add numbers to their negitive outlook. I'm afraid it's not the board one goes to to get objective opinions about his books.

I personally enjoyed this issue also. I don't beleive for one moment that Ollie...the real Ollie is dead, but I'm certainly looking forward to following this mystery through

[ColdFury]

I personally enjoyed this issue also. I don't beleive for one moment that Ollie...the real Ollie is dead, but I'm certainly looking forward to following this mystery through

Ugh, but in that scenario, when was the swap made? At the wedding? At the bachelor party? Some point recently? During OYL? When he was ressurected? When? We could be talking about 'taking back' all the positive developments of BC/GA.

Honestly.... I don't see DC going with an easy answer here, I think they'll go for the most gut wrenching answer possible... either Ollie is dead or a good portion of his character development is gonna go out the window.

I'd love to be wrong, but DC lately hasn't given me much to hope for.

[Gottaluvit]

Ugh, but in that scenario, when was the swap made? At the wedding? At the bachelor party? Some point recently? During OYL? When he was ressurected? When? We could be talking about 'taking back' all the positive developments of BC/GA.

Honestly.... I don't see DC going with an easy answer here, I think they'll go for the most gut wrenching answer possible... either Ollie is dead or a good portion of his character development is gonna go out the window.

I'd love to be wrong, but DC lately hasn't given me much to hope for.



Seriously, I'm sure it's either not Ollie, or he's not dead just seriously injured and being mind controlled. I'm a huge arrow family fan, and usually I'm always worrying about the characters being killed off, but not this time, I'm not in the least worried about this.

[Jay R]

Freakin' Awesome. I loved it. Amanda Conner's art is super fantastic.

I have no idea how to explain the ending pages. I wasn't expecting that and I hope DC handles this with caution. Done well, it could be something really good. Done poorly, and heads will roll. :evilangry

It was nice to see Canary so happy. I thought the dialogue was well done too. Hard to believe this is a Winnick book. He ticked me off on Outsiders, but I digress.

I was hesitant to pick up this issue, but I'm glad I did. I don't think I'll be picking up the series though.

-Jay

[Captain Jim]

Haven't read it, but I'm sure DC didn't go to all the trouble of bringing Ollie back from the dead just so they could kill him again.

[xnef1025]

Did anyone else think Superman sounded like a mental deficient when he and Diana were discussing the ramifications of marrying another superhero.

S: I think it's nice!
D: Of course you do, Clark.

She could have been patting him on his head as she said that :)

[Corrina]

Maybe Winick's been reading Captain America. He's put Dinah in essentially the same position as Sharon Carter.

Let's hope he didn't see this week's issue of Cap, eh?

[stamen]

Haven't read it, but I'm sure DC didn't go to all the trouble of bringing Ollie back from the dead just so they could kill him again.

Nah, but they did go to all the trouble to raise him from the grave to make him a dead-beat dad, wife-stealing, cheater who mind-wipes his friends, lies to his son, scams stocks, fails in a bid at mayor, has forgotten the poor and oppressed, and gets beaten up every arc. And as of yesterday, he has now taken three arrows through his vital organs in the last year.

They should have left him dead rather than propping up his corpse and making him a laughing stock for writers to pop off on.

[Sean Walsh]

I loved this issue. Amanda's art seemed better than it's ever been, to be honest. Maybe it's her drawing ALL those capes that did the trick.

And my favorite part was Superman's speech to Wonder Woman. He seemed a little too...boyish delivering it, maybe, but what he said was pretty perfect given the state of the current DCU.

Maybe Winick's been reading Captain America. He's put Dinah in essentially the same position as Sharon Carter.

Huh?

Sharon was being mind controlled, basically, while Dinah was using pretty straightforward self-defense.

[DarkCrisis]

Funny read. Ending blew goats though.

And how you have a wedding issue without the er... wedding? Not even an "I do" scene? That's kind of bad...

[Sean Walsh]

And how you have a wedding issue without the er... wedding? Not even an "I do" scene? That's kind of bad...

Unless, y'know, the wedding never meant anything in the first place; and it was all just about the lead-up and fallout......

Like Batman said, "I'm here for the fight." 'Cause that was the only reason for the whole shebang in the first place.

[Fenix]

Did anyone else think Superman sounded like a mental deficient when he and Diana were discussing the ramifications of marrying another superhero.

S: I think it's nice!
D: Of course you do, Clark.

She could have been patting him on his head as she said that :)

childdish, optimistic, fill with hope... Superman at his worst? :p

Nah, but they did go to all the trouble to raise him from the grave to make him a dead-beat dad, wife-stealing, cheater who mind-wipes his friends, lies to his son, scams stocks, fails in a bid at mayor, has forgotten the poor and oppressed, and gets beaten up every arc. And as of yesterday, he has now taken three arrows through his vital organs in the last year.

They should have left him dead rather than propping up his corpse and making him a laughing stock for writers to pop off on.

How sad... I´m not a follower of GA but if some of this is true... how sad.
Recon time ahead! :)

Funny read all in all. I like it, and Amanda´s work is awesome. Fresh and neat. Beautiful for this, excellent choice DC. I hope she stays.

About the ending: Its DRAMA! come on! you know how it works....

[Corrina]

Huh?
Sharon was being mind controlled, basically, while Dinah was using pretty straightforward self-defense.

Yeah, but the emotional result of "I killed/hurt the man I love!" is the same.

And that didn't look like straightforward self-defense. It looked like the writing/art of people who don't realize that someone who's been training to be Shiva's equal could find many, many non-lethal ways to defend herself.

Or, rather, it looked like the writing of someone who hasn't read BoP over the last few years.

I don't get it. If Black Canary was made more popular by BoP and thus earned her own co-title, why write her as a different person than in BoP?

I was trying. I bought this to give it a shot. I love Canary, I like GA when he's well-written, and I wasn't opposed to the wedding idea but since it's clear I'm not going to get the characters who even remotely interest me, I'm done.

[Bored at 3:00AM]

I got this only for Amanda Conner's always wonderful art. I was not disappointed....with the art.

The rest? Eh.

[4thHorseman]

Bah, what a terrible issue. I saved this one to read expecting it to be somewhat decent and was let down. Story was terrible, art was ok at best, and the ending was....well...bad.

With the art thing, I just don't think Conner draws certain characters well. Yes they can look cute and everything, but the facial expressions at times I dislike, the art gets worse (and not by a little) as characters get into the background, and what the hell was with Superman? I have never seen Superman look so dense and childish all at once. Seriously, if there was a picture that made superman look like he has a head full of air, Conner would be the one drawing it.

[Slumber Hulk]

I loved the book! Everything was a great apart from the final pages.

Rule 1 about "One-Shots" they should be a one shot!

That stupid stabby momemt should have been in the regular title. But they wanted a cliff hanger to lead you to the regular title.

IMHO this should have been issue 1 of the ongoing and not a one shot that isn't a one shot.

[hangmanjury]

A few points:

I did not like Conner's extreme portrayal of Superman.

Oliver Queen is not dead. His resurrection is too recent for them to try his being dead again.

Solicits of Green Arrow/Black Canary 3 say that there is a kidnapping of Dinah and Conner's missing friend. I'm willing to bet it's Ollie.

Finally, a thought. Why is Clark at the bachelor party? I mean, as Clark? Why couldn't he have just been Superman, except in civvies?

[Big Red Spider]

I agree. Amanda Conner ROXX!!

[CMBMOOL]

Okay I'm a fan of the art in this issue, but when the writter doesn't use what Black Canary learned in BOP in this issue or in the GA/BC series and how she has developed her own person, then I'm dropping it faster than Superman on Kyrptonite. :mad:

[Slumber Hulk]

I'd like to add to the bandwagon that the art was fantastic!

I particularly like the extremely realistic BC faces during the early humorous parts!

[vanwilderjc]

Confusing. They should have got a totally new writer to do the Black Canary/Green Arrow series.

Winick gets to keep writing Oliver and gets to write his own Canary. One that is completely different from what we know from BOP and looks to be different from JLA.

If Green Arrow wasnt one of my favorite characters i wouldnt give any of this mind. I really dont understand how after 50 Issues or so they didnt get someone new to write green arrow. I mean the issues were decent to good but it wasnt comic book of the year anytime. You figure DC would get someone new for this series just go kick it off.

I know for one, after an arc or two if Winick isnt putting out a BOP Canary and good stories, then it is diffinetly time to get someone new to taker over Green Arrow and Black Canary

[Sean Walsh]

Yeah, but the emotional result of "I killed/hurt the man I love!" is the same.

That wouldn't be a natural reaction for anyone who killed/hurt the man they loved?? :confused:

And it was her wedding night, not a situation where she was expecting her lover and new husband to try and almost succeed in killing her. She had her defenses completely down and she panicked. And sadly, it resulted in her sticking an arrow in his neck. I can't really blame her, or Winick really, for doing that. To a normie like me, it just makes sense I guess.

[Big Red Spider]

I'm going to sound really stupid here, but I thought Ollie was gay?

Has he been gay/bi in the past?

[lonewolf23k]

I'm going to sound really stupid here, but I thought Ollie was gay?

Has he been gay/bi in the past?

..Aside from being called "Queen", no, he's always been a skirt-chaser...

Now, his son Connor, he's been considered gay once or twice...

[Armless Penguin]

..Aside from being called "Queen", no, he's always been a skirt-chaser...

Now, his son Connor, he's been considered gay once or twice...

The funny thing about Connor is that he does seem gay, but Chuck Dixon, pretty much the character's definitive writer, adamantly maintains that he's not.

[Big Red Spider]

Thanks. I don't know where I heard that. An unreliable source obviously.

[blackphoenix]

Didn't buy this. Hated that stupid ass ending.Why not give us a happy ending 4 once? Bet Catwoman gets shot in the head at her and Batman's eventual wedding. way 2 go, DC.

[Ender]

I'lll give them props for one thing: I had no idea this was gonna happen.

What a ham handed way to try and kill Black Canary. I mean honestly brandishing a knife? It's Black "F-ing" Canary for gods sake, its like chargeing Batman with a chainsaw.

And sadly I think BC is destined to be written wrong by everyone except Gail. Though Bedard did alright, even Meltzer did well. Hmmm could her current steward be the problem?

[Miss Kitty Fantastico]

I feel a little bit bad for this issue - it had a lot going for it, what with some witty dialogue (though I can't speak to its accuracy to character: Dinah and Ollie aren't very familiar to me), gorgeous Amanda Conner art, interesting sidebars to the main story... but for me, last week's JLA Wedding Special just stole its thunder right out from under it. I mean, Deathstroke... compared to JLA's awesome Challenge of the Superfriends redux? No contest.

I liked Dinah's 'dress' though - I was very, very worried when I saw the pedestrian effort in the Wedding Planner, but the diamond white variant on her costume was really quite sweet. Tacky as all get-out had it been anyone besides Dinah getting married in a revealing bustier and fishnets... but it's Dinah, that's the look that means something profound to her, regardless of how it'd look in real life.

Can't say I cared much for the ending though. Admittedly they probably weren't that interested in catering to readers like me who didn't intend to go on to read the GA/BC series, but I'd have come away from the little 'Wedding trilogy' of one-shots with a rosier glow (and happier feelings towards DC in general, for what that's worth) had the ending been a more traditional (even sappy) happy ending, with future adventures certain but not set in motion right this minute, rather than a very blatant "To be continued... duh duh DUH!" moment.

[Corrina]

And sadly I think BC is destined to be written wrong by everyone except Gail. Though Bedard did alright, even Meltzer did well. Hmmm could her current steward be the problem?

Save for the way Sin was written out, I liked Bedard's Black Canary and while I didn't care much for the lack of good scenes for Canary in "Identity Crisis," (being dragged along by Ollie, mostly), I looked through the last JLA issue and thought his take on Canary in regards to Roy was quite good, and I loved the harmonica.

Alas, Winick can't even write an Oliver Queen that I like. I don't know why I thought he'd do well with Dinah Lance.

[Mulett]

I really enjoyed most of this, but a couple of things didn't quite hit the mark for me.

Like, why didn't Dinah just whack Deathstroke with her canary cry. Or Ollie, at the end of the issue, for that matter? Has she not got it anymore?

And what's all this about the 'six biggest guns' being Superman, Wonder Woman and the four Green Lanterns? Last time I checked, Power Girl was as strong as Superman, but (yet again) she was treated as if she's not in the same league as the 'big guns'.

Apart from that, good fun not to be taken too seriously, I guess.

[Bob-el]

I've got a bunch of problems with this.

The art was a problem for me. Go the page where everyone gets the invitations. I've gone over it at least three times and I'm still not sure I can identify everybody. If it wasn't for the little bit of wings showing, I'd still be guessing on Hawkman. I realize the art style is intentionally cartoony but surely it should have been possible to make all the characters look like themselves.

I'm no fashion critic but compared to the gowns that have been showcased in other comic weddings (Mary Jane and Jean, for example) this was a low rent disaster. Maybe it was intended to just be funny by letting her combine fishnets and a wedding gown but if so the joke seemed out of place and seems disrespectful to the character.

There are art discontinuities to Countdown and the Wedding Planner issue in terms of what outfit people are wearing (check out Barda at the bachelorette party and Canary's wedding night lingerie). Doesn't DC employee any decent editors anymore?

There are potential plot problems. How did the villains get the device on the cave roof inside the cave? If it was put in before the security measures were installed, why wasn't it detected?

Did Flash not tip off anybody beside Batman about Deathstroke's plot?

Why would Canary need an arrow in the neck to take care of an attacker. Couldn't she have flipped him off or sonic screamed him? The dramatic ending was too implausible and nobody is believing Ollie's really dead. I would be amazed if DC would try to make a Black Canary and Connor Hawke comic sell as a Green Arrow/Black Canary title.

By the way, who decided that Guy Gardner should be on the invitation list. Do either one of these characters even remotely like him?

I didn't really dislike the issue. It was a fun little romp but all things considered it was a disappointment.

[pariah-1972]

I've got a bunch of problems with this.

The art was a problem for me. Go the page where everyone gets the invitations. I've gone over it at least three times and I'm still not sure I can identify everybody. If it wasn't for the little bit of wings showing, I'd still be guessing on Hawkman. I realize the art style is intentionally cartoony but surely it should have been possible to make all the characters look like themselves.

I'm no fashion critic but compared to the gowns that have been showcased in other comic weddings (Mary Jane and Jean, for example) this was a low rent disaster. Maybe it was intended to just be funny by letting her combine fishnets and a wedding gown but if so the joke seemed out of place and seems disrespectful to the character.

There are art discontinuities to Countdown and the Wedding Planner issue in terms of what outfit people are wearing (check out Barda at the bachelorette party and Canary's wedding night lingerie). Doesn't DC employee any decent editors anymore?

There are potential plot problems. How did the villains get the device on the cave roof inside the cave? If it was put in before the security measures were installed, why wasn't it detected?

Did Flash not tip off anybody beside Batman about Deathstroke's plot?

Why would Canary need an arrow in the neck to take care of an attacker. Couldn't she have flipped him off or sonic screamed him? The dramatic ending was too implausible and nobody is believing Ollie's really dead. I would be amazed if DC would try to make a Black Canary and Connor Hawke comic sell as a Green Arrow/Black Canary title.

By the way, who decided that Guy Gardner should be on the invitation list. Do either one of these characters even remotely like him?

I didn't really dislike the issue. It was a fun little romp but all things considered it was a disappointment.Black Canary rarely ever uses her "cry" anymore.
I think most people have agreed that Black Canary may not have the best taste in fashion (remember that god awfull outfit she wore during the 80's jli?)
I don't think anyone likes Snapper Carr either but he was invited.

[Ilash]

Until those last four pages this book was flat out awesome. Sweet, charming and funny with some great action scenes to boot and phenomenal Amanda Conner art, which just drove the whole thing over the edge. So to say that the last four pages were jarring would be to horribly understate the matter. Of course, it could all turn out well in the end but as it stands right here, that ending sucked.

It's funny but this issue sort of showcased the two sides to the DCU - the light and fun verses the dark and "shocking" - and if I had any doubts before about which approach suits these characters more, I don't anymore.

Also, while I've constantly been underwhelmed by Winnick's superhero writing before, his work on the bulk of the issue here impressed the hell out of me. DC needs to get him on more funny, character-driven books and soon.

[Captain Jim]

Given the connection to Countdown, I wonder if it's possible that this may not be "our" earth's Green Arrow.

[mattx110]

Given the connection to Countdown, I wonder if it's possible that this may not be "our" earth's Green Arrow.

i'm gonna go with his mind was snatched out and replaced, and is gonna get shoved into a poor alternate earth olliver who we don't really care about too much.

hopefully if/when they bring back ollie, he doesn't grow the sideburns so far down. he's too old for that silly look.

[Agent_Torpor]

Can I just say that Black Canary's wedding dress rocks? Thanks

[Hawkman]

I don't know what to say about this issue. I was able to get my hands on it after my friend basically gave it to me, and even for free, I wasn't that thrilled with it. It was fun, but ultimately just felt like a pointless launching pad for the new series, which, "startling" ending aside, I still have absolutely no plans of picking up. I'd rather just read the spoilers the day after to find out what happened to Ollie and be on my way.

Of course, I've never been that big of a fan of either Green Arrow or Black Canary. I like 'em, but I'm not interested in reading about either of them outside of a team setting.

[The Xenos]

The funny thing about Connor is that he does seem gay, but Chuck Dixon, pretty much the character's definitive writer, adamantly maintains that he's not.

The dude is pretty much a Buddhist monk. Just because a guy isn't jumping at every woman around or shows restraint, fans suddenly think he's gay. Lame.

Plus, I think it's a nice contrast to his older brother Roy who seems was always chasing women.

[titanfan]

Like, why didn't Dinah just whack Deathstroke with her canary cry. Or Ollie, at the end of the issue, for that matter? Has she not got it anymore?

Close range canary cry would have killed him. But she definitely could have subdued him without killing him. And whoever tried to kill Dinah with a knife like that is a moron. At least wait until she's sleeping.


And what's all this about the 'six biggest guns' being Superman, Wonder Woman and the four Green Lanterns? Last time I checked, Power Girl was as strong as Superman, but (yet again) she was treated as if she's not in the same league as the 'big guns'.

Looking at the villain and hero spread in the room--the heroes still should have been able to win easily. I can see how the presence of the Green Lanterns would make it end quicker though.

[AdamYJ]

The funny thing about Connor is that he does seem gay, but Chuck Dixon, pretty much the character's definitive writer, adamantly maintains that he's not.

Anyone who thinks that Connor Hawke is gay should read Connor Hawke: Dragon's Blood. In fact, anyone who hasn't read that mini really should because it's a damn good adventure story and not enough people read it when it came out.

Anyway, Connor is generally just more introspective and focused on spiritual things. As such, he's not very interested in women. Also, since he spent his entire adolescence in a Buddhist ashram with male monks, he missed the coed socialization that usually comes during that period. He doesn't know how to talk to women and he doesn't know how to pick up on subtle signals that they're interested in him. Interestingly enough, there are a number of women who use not-so-subtle signals on him and he usually pushes them away just because he doesn't want to risk becoming the "love 'em and leave 'em" type like his father was. So, when it comes to relationships in general, he usually can't win. In Dragon's Blood, he does go outside his usual comfort zone a bit.

[kalorama]

Anyone who thinks that Connor Hawke is gay should read Connor Hawke: Dragon's Blood. In fact, anyone who hasn't read that mini really should because it's a damn good adventure story and not enough people read it when it came out.

I did. Loved it. Given his work both on the Connor-era G.A. and BoP, Dixon should be first in the on-deck circle if/when Winick leaves GA/BC.

[Violently Apathetic]

Anyone who thinks that Connor Hawke is gay should read Connor Hawke: Dragon's Blood. In fact, anyone who hasn't read that mini really should because it's a damn good adventure story and not enough people read it when it came out.


Isn't that the one where he made out with his daddy's rapist? No thanks.

[The Xenos]

Also, since he spent his entire adolescence in a Buddhist ashram with male monks, he missed the coed socialization that usually comes during that period. He doesn't know how to talk to women and he doesn't know how to pick up on subtle signals that they're interested in him. Interestingly enough, there are a number of women who use not-so-subtle signals on him and he usually pushes them away just because he doesn't want to risk becoming the "love 'em and leave 'em" type like his father was. So, when it comes to relationships in general, he usually can't win.

Hey. It's kinda like going to a Catholic all boys high school. Damn coed socialization during a critical time of social development.

[Corrina]

Close range canary cry would have killed him.

Not necessarily. In BoP, Dinah had enough control to shatter an object in Shiva's hand without damaging Shiva's hand.

[AdamYJ]

Isn't that the one where he made out with his daddy's rapist? No thanks.

Yeah. Apparently, the gene for making bonehead relationship decisions didn't entirely skip a generation.

Hey. It's kinda like going to a Catholic all boys high school. Damn coed socialization during a critical time of social development.

I think it might have been just a little more intense for Connor, just by the virtue of his personality.

It just always gets me that people say Connor's probably gay because he shows little interest in women. The thing is, unless you're really reading into some of his friendships, he's never shown interest in any men either. So, Connor is probably as close to asexual as you can get short of the Legion's current version of Chameleon. 99% of the time, he just doesn't really care about sex at all.

[NDHorse]

Given the connection to Countdown, I wonder if it's possible that this may not be "our" earth's Green Arrow.

Actually, in the Pre-COIE DC universe, wasn't the Black Canary from Earth-2 eventually moved to Earth-1?? (It's much more convoluted than that, but that's the gist) Maybe Black Canary is also one of the multiverse errors that the Monitors are trying to correct like Kyle Raynor. The Monitors are using a Green Arrow from another universe to do this. Have we seen the Green Arrow from the CSA Earth (Earth-3???) yet???

Did that make sense??

[Captain Jim]

Actually, in the Pre-COIE DC universe, wasn't the Black Canary from Earth-2 eventually moved to Earth-1?? (It's much more convoluted than that, but that's the gist)

Yeah, though later on "our" BC was retconed to be the daughter of that one.

[The Xenos]

It just always gets me that people say Connor's probably gay because he shows little interest in women. The thing is, unless you're really reading into some of his friendships, he's never shown interest in any men either. So, Connor is probably as close to asexual as you can get short of the Legion's current version of Chameleon. 99% of the time, he just doesn't really care about sex at all.

I guess not showing a constant interest in sex and not always being on the lookout is something inconceivable for some people. When Winick first started writing Connor I was worried he'd pull a simple minded militant liberal stunt like inferring that Connor was gay. Hell, wouldn't be the first time a Chuck Dixon penned character got that treatment. Thankfully, Winick didn't.

Though certianly he's done enough damage with poorly writing Ollie and now Dinah.

So let's get back to how bizarre Winick writes these characters and what the hell happened in the wedding special. What the hell was that?

I've been giving Winick a chance for a while. I even went back to the book One Year Later when McDaniel was on art. Yet, I'm done. I can't take it anymore. "Screw you guys. I'm going home."

[titanfan]

n. The thing is, unless you're really reading into some of his friendships, he's never shown interest in any men either.

He and Eddie were very close friends...

[Bob-el]

Black Canary rarely ever uses her "cry" anymore.
I think most people have agreed that Black Canary may not have the best taste in fashion (remember that god awfull outfit she wore during the 80's jli?)
I don't think anyone likes Snapper Carr either but he was invited.

Could be but it's mentioned at the beginning of this very issue as GA and BC's standard strategy. Arrow then Canary Cry, remember?