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Faded
09-18-2007, 11:10 PM
Summary:

Loa eats ice creme!!!! LOL, she really does.

Favorite flavor: unknown.

The art is sublime. I love Skottie like a bulimic girl loves her index finger.

Left off from the previews (which BTW reveals Pixie DOES the magik thang now), Rockslide and X-23 want to cut off Anole's other limbs so he'll become all dragon-y. Victor refuses and Rockslide calls him a sissy. Someone doesn't like that word and that somebody is Anole.

Cessily is going around, being kinda annoying, checking on everyone and compiling a list of ages of all the students because the youngest is just sure to be the biggest target. For some reason, Angel Salvadore's kid Tito doesn't count (have no idea why) nor does Franklin Richards and Molly (of the Runaways) doesn't seem to register on Cerebra.

Anyway, Elixir is being all zen and talking about his cells aging, dying, and doing whatever. What a nerd lol. But he's creepy-cool.

Beast wants to experiment with Santo's rock form. Santo comes falling from the sky with Vic attacking him. Beast wants to blow up Santo, but of course he doesn't want to. He eventually agrees and Vic volunteers to blow him up. Strangely, Santo can blow up all by himself anyway and he reforms into his previous Caliban-esque form. DOWNGRADE. Anyway, he's basically a psychic entity and can reform from the rocks around him whether he consciously self-destructs or is vaporized from someone else.

Nori is going around asking all the kids what happened to David. Everyone is covering it up and downright lying (badly) but X-23 spills in detail to Ms. Electric Blue. She's POed to be put it lightly.

Cyclops encounters her and wants to conduct student-teacher interviews. Pixie comes along and is all cheerful, and basically expresses her Cyclops worship outloud wanting to join along with a big huge grin (Brian Moranor's ass probably likes her now.). Wolverine pops his claws and basically says "you're coming with me" or something. FREAK OUT.

The student interview material is rather random and overly dramatic. Emma is basically "how's your day" and Cessily and Julian are all like "ANGST WHERE's WITHER?! YOU DONT TALK TO US ANYMORE OR TAKE US TO THE GAME ANYMORE." *runs away and slams the door!!!*

Whatever.

Loa and Wolf Cub have ice creme. The latter is afraid he's the youngest and is freaked out. Behind them comes Pixie leaving a trail of her pixie dust with Wolverine chasing after her (and angrily, he sees unicorns lol).

Indra is compiling everyone's names and birthdates. They come to the conclusion Wolf Cub is the youngest but no, wait, very awkwardly Mercury is like "hey your name is not on the list Indra" and he's like "oh, I'm the youngest mutant on the planet" (uhm...Molly? Tito? Franklin? Plus his reaction is just strange. Its like he didn't leave out his name on purpose and then he just announces that its him.).

Nori kisses Julian to get revenge on David for...getting his heart ripped out last arc. Or something. Its weird. LOL.

Outside, the Purifiers have planted Dust's burqua attached to some trees to attract Predator X. Basically, once this Predator X (what a bad name) gets a sniff of [this] mutant, she'll be dead.

FIN.

ES:
Back at the Guthrie ranch thing, Beast & DB talk to Lucinda. Beast talks to Ma Guthrie about experimenting on her genes given her mutant production rate. Dark Beast wanders off to visit one of the kids (Lewis) who is playing superhero or something. He basically offers him the chance to gain real powers.

Meanwhile, Beast suggests Lucinda could be the answer to M-Days problems. Lucinda isn't too happy about that. Them be her lady lumps fer suure. How are YOU doing?

A scream from one of the girls brings everyone to Lewis in DB's arms who is basically having seizures and whose skin is all lumpy. Lucinda thinks Beast set her up and Dark Beast just wants to try his little experiment on another one of her kids.

For those who care, the Guthrie clan is mentioned to have 10 kids (thanks Hi-Fi). Cissie and Lewis appear, the mutant kids are mentioned (and Jeb, the kid with the optic electric blasts, is confirmed depowered).

Perkins on art for the back-up. Decent job, though his Beast is still awkward as hell.

WHAT DID I THINK OF IT? You're dying to know, I'm sure.
I think it was an overall good issue, though there certainly were some parts I thought were awkward (as noted in the summary).
I'd give it a B.

Brian M.
09-18-2007, 11:37 PM
Stop making me try to like her.

quillero
09-19-2007, 12:07 AM
Outside, the Purifiers have planted Dust's burqua attached to some trees to attract Predator X. Basically, once this Predator X (what a bad name) gets a sniff of [this] mutant, she'll be dead.



I fear for Sooraya. :(

frog
09-19-2007, 04:41 AM
Thanks, Faded. My issue didn't come early like it usually does - hope it's in today's mail!

Summary:

Anyway, Elixir is being all zen and talking about his cells aging, dying, and doing whatever. What a nerd lol. But he's creepy-cool.

Looks like Elixir might be our next candidate for going off the deep end - the price for too much knowledge too fast?

Beast wants to experiment with Santo's rock form. Santo comes falling from the sky with Vic attacking him. Beast wants to blow up Santo, but of course he doesn't want to. He eventually agrees and Vic volunteers to blow him up. Strangely, Santo can blow up all by himself anyway and he reforms into his previous Caliban-esque form. DOWNGRADE. Anyway, he's basically a psychic entity and can reform from the rocks around him whether he consciously self-destructs or is vaporized from someone else.

Does this mean that Santo's now unkillable? Or what happens if he's not around any rocks?

Loa and Wolf Cub have ice creme. The latter is afraid he's the youngest and is freaked out. Behind them comes Pixie leaving a trail of her pixie dust with Wolverine chasing after her (and angrily, he sees unicorns lol).

Ha! Pixie comic relief for the win!

Outside, the Purifiers have planted Dust's burqua attached to some trees to attract Predator X. Basically, once this Predator X (what a bad name) gets a sniff of [this] mutant, she'll be dead.

I don't like the sound of this at all. Poor Dust.



ES:
Back at the Guthrie ranch thing, Beast & DB talk to Lucinda. Beast talks to Ma Guthrie about experimenting on her genes given her mutant production rate. Dark Beast wanders off to visit one of the kids (Lewis) who is playing superhero or something. He basically offers him the chance to gain real powers.

Meanwhile, Beast suggests Lucinda could be the answer to M-Days problems. Lucinda isn't too happy about that. Them be her lady lumps fer suure. How are YOU doing?

A scream from one of the girls brings everyone to Lewis in DB's arms who is basically having seizures and whose skin is all lumpy. Lucinda thinks Beast set her up and Dark Beast just wants to try his little experiment on another one of her kids.

For those who care, the Guthrie clan is mentioned to have 10 kids (thanks Hi-Fi). Cissie and Lewis appear, the mutant kids are mentioned (and Jeb, the kid with the optic electric blasts, is confirmed depowered).

Perkins on art for the back-up. Decent job, though his Beast is still awkward as hell.


I knew the Guthries were in for it. :eek:
Considering the next chapter solicit mentions "cold-blooded murder" I don't think Lewis' chances are very good. I hope this shocks Beast back into awareness of how far he's gone down the wrong road.

Brett P
09-19-2007, 04:43 AM
I didn't get mine today :(

Hopefully tomowwow!

Pach!
09-19-2007, 06:03 AM
Molly wasn't registering on cerebra because she's traveled in time! LOL at continuity.


And I think the Emma thing was portraying Emma being cold towards her students which is why Cess asked "Is this how it's going to be" or something like that.

I loved the issue. I guess Victor officially came out to Rockslide?

protogarrett
09-19-2007, 08:59 AM
I hope Dust lives. Seriously. Marvel, don't kill her.

protogarrett
09-19-2007, 09:00 AM
So where was David during all of this then? WHat was he doing that pissed off Nori?

Anna
09-19-2007, 09:20 AM
So where was David during all of this then? WHat was he doing that pissed off Nori?

Nuri was still mad about what happened in Limbo.

Brian M.
09-19-2007, 10:28 AM
Nuri was still mad about what happened in Limbo.

I must have missed out on that...

Talon X
09-19-2007, 10:30 AM
Thanks for the spolier! And why is Nori angry about what happened in Limbo? It's not like they on purpose went to Limbo and got David killed!

Bahnz
09-19-2007, 10:35 AM
While I enjoyed this more than the turgid Magik arc, at times it didn't make a whole lot of sense. Why exactly is Nori so pissed off at David? He certainly hasn't been courting danger lately, and it wasn't his fault he got dragged off to limbo. Why did she respond by kissing Julian? Yes they argue lots, but they've always done so. There's sexual tension, and then there are people who just don't like each other. Why is everyone so scared about being the youngest mutant? Admittedly I haven't really kept up to date with whats going on in ES and the other X titles, so I might have missed this one, but I can't see how being young makes them a bigger target than any of the other remaining students. And while this is a minor gripe, Josh's journey from being catatonic to all happy clappy and now back to dark and broody has been a little to rushed and haphazard.

Besides that a good issue, and I'm looking forward to another character based one next month before the book gets hijacked by MC. I'm almost starting to like Pixie now, and it'll be fun to see the fallout over the whole Nori-Julian thing, even if it didn't really make sense. Laura did not look pleased. So a big improvement all round.

Brian M.
09-19-2007, 10:37 AM
While I enjoyed this more than the turgid Magik arc, at times it didn't make a whole lot of sense. Why exactly is Nori so pissed off at David? He certainly hasn't been courting danger lately, and it wasn't his fault he got dragged off to limbo. Why did she respond by kissing Julian? Yes they argue lots, but they've always done so. There's sexual tension, and then there are people who just don't like each other. Why is everyone so scared about being the youngest mutant? Admittedly I haven't really kept up to date with whats going on in ES and the other X titles, so I might have missed this one, but I can't see how being young makes them a bigger target than any of the other remaining students. And while this is a minor gripe, Josh's journey from being catatonic to all happy clappy and now back to dark and broody has been a little to rushed and haphazard.

Besides that a good issue, and I'm looking forward to another character based one next month before the book gets hijacked by MC. I'm almost starting to like Pixie now, and it'll be fun to see the fallout over the whole Nori-Julian thing, even if it didn't really make sense. Laura did not look pleased. So a big improvement all round.


I actually liked that sub-plot of the youngest mutant thing, reminded me of that Children of Men movie. In fact all of Messiah Complex is starting to remind me of Children of Men.

frog
09-19-2007, 10:39 AM
My issue did not come in the mail today. That's most irritating. :evilangry

However, I found some scans elsewhere and I have to say that Anole is really stealing some scenes!

Beast to Santo: "Now, I'd like to see how you do re-forming when someone else shatters you . . . " Santo: "What?!" Anole: "Ooo! Ooo! Me!" :D

Pach!
09-19-2007, 10:40 AM
For those of you that read it, Santo now knows that Vic is gay right?

frog
09-19-2007, 10:42 AM
For those of you that read it, Santo now knows that Vic is gay right?

That's what I gathered from Santo hollering "I swear I didn't know", I don't know what else it could mean.

Bahnz
09-19-2007, 10:50 AM
I actually liked that sub-plot of the youngest mutant thing, reminded me of that Children of Men movie. In fact all of Messiah Complex is starting to remind me of Children of Men.

Yeah, but it still doesn't make any sense. All of these mutants were around before M-Day, their powers haven't newly emerged, so they're all just apart of the last remnant of mutants, seemingly destined to fade off into extinction and no different from the older mutants who survived M-Day with their powers intact. Being the youngest doesn't matter, just as being the youngest person alive before the sterility event in Children of Men didn't matter, because they were still sterile. The mutant baby that will be discovered afterwards will matter, as it could potentially be the start of a second wave of mutant population growth, and may reveal secrets about the future of the mutant species.

Pach!
09-19-2007, 10:55 AM
Yeah, but it still doesn't make any sense. All of these mutants were around before M-Day, their powers haven't newly emerged, so they're all just apart of the last remnant of mutants, seemingly destined to fade off into extinction and no different from the older mutants who survived M-Day with their powers intact. Being the youngest doesn't matter, just as being the youngest person alive before the sterility event in Children of Men didn't matter. The mutant baby that will be discovered afterwards will matter, as it could potentially be the start of a second wave of mutant population growth, and may reveal secrets about the future of the mutant species.

Uh it does matter...because being the youngest usually means that you will be the last mutant alive. Besides it's not like the ONE or the X-men are officially investigating who the youngest one is.. the kids are , it must mean something to them to be the youngest mutant. Like in that movie "Children of Men" with the kid from Argentina which is what Brian said but I thought I'd say it again. LOL.

Also I loved Beast witty remarks about Rockslide and Pixie. So lol.

Bahnz
09-19-2007, 11:08 AM
Uh it does matter...because being the youngest usually means that you will be the last mutant alive. Besides it's not like the ONE or the X-men are officially investigating who the youngest one is.. the kids are , it must mean something to them to be the youngest mutant. Like in that movie "Children of Men" with the kid from Argentina which is what Brian said but I thought I'd say it again. LOL.

Also I loved Beast witty remarks about Rockslide and Pixie. So lol.

It absolutely does not mean they'll be the last one alive. They could die of a disease, or get killed in a routine mission or anything. And that's ignoring the fact that some mutants live longer than others. Wolverine's probably going to be around for centuries to come, yet he hasn't been signalled out as a special target. And while I understand that this is something that the kids are doing, why would they fear being the youngest would make them more likely to die? They've all been targeted by someone or other since M-day, irregardless of age. The people who want to wipe out the last mutants aren't going to simply target the youngest one and move from there, they'll kill any mutant they can. Which is why I'm currently so worried about Dust.

CMBMOOL
09-19-2007, 11:17 AM
All I can say is that Pixie Rocks. :D

Steven F.
09-19-2007, 11:22 AM
I thought this was a great issue...loving more of Anole and Pixie.

The subplot about the youngest mutant is just something kids would do in the real world....it felt natural to me, and it was cute.

CE_Rap
09-19-2007, 11:30 AM
First off, real quick:

Yea--Anole totally exposed himself. Wow--that's a trip. Santo gonna start calling him "Anal-Lee" now.

I had NO IDEA that was Kitty until Elixir called her "Miss Pryde." All that access energy she was giving off when she phased into Josh's room was...weird. So then the girl who Nori asks about David was supposed to be Trance? Her and Kitty are drawn with the same hair but different clothes...

FADED hit it on the head---SANTO, SOOOOOOOOOOOO Downgraded!:p

Dragon Anole is something that may happen in the future--whoo boy!

Pixie/Wolverine scene was cute.

Nori is annoying now. Is she upset he got hurt, or upset he was there. Because how come she doesn't know that it wasn't his fault, he got dragged there! Even if he DID have his powers---the same #@$%ing thing would've happenend wouldn't it? That why Nori pisses me off. He's only a LITTLE more vulnerable without his powers. The only difference being he, say, absorb X's physical skills and use that in a fight. So yea, i could give two shits about Nori now...


Uh it does matter...because being the youngest usually means that you will be the last mutant alive. Besides it's not like the ONE or the X-men are officially investigating who the youngest one is.. the kids are , it must mean something to them to be the youngest mutant. Like in that movie "Children of Men" with the kid from Argentina which is what Brian said but I thought I'd say it again. LOL.

Also I loved Beast witty remarks about Rockslide and Pixie. So lol.

Actually, I agree with BAHNZ. Technically, youngest might mean--easy target, next to die. But I think it's fair to say that being the youngest amongst a group of young people isn't nearly as detrimental to ones existence as...say...being Jubilee's age when SHE was on the X-Men. And I believe that that's the reason this new Messiah baby is the such a big deal. It's the new wave. Maybe, new mutant kids will be born with powers right out of teh gate so they have a higher probably of surviving---as originally, their powers were DORMANT so they could survive longer.

So if this was something the kids were just doing amongst themsleves for their own edification, then that's great. Otherwise, I think it makes a silly addition to the main plot.

MNM
09-19-2007, 11:49 AM
Actually, I agree with BAHNZ. Technically, youngest might mean--easy target, next to die. But I think it's fair to say that being the youngest amongst a group of young people isn't nearly as detrimental to ones existence as...say...being Jubilee's age when SHE was on the X-Men.


It's symbolic though isnt it? At least for the kid, being the youngest mutant is akin to being the last mutant.

I liked this issue. What I would really like to see is more of Santo and X-23 hanging out, I could totaly get behind the idea of him being like her msucle (not that she needs it), and just flanking her everywhere, belaying her ideas and stuff to other people, that would rock. For me anyway.

Pixie dousing Wolverine with teh dust was a cool moment too.

CaptainCanada
09-19-2007, 11:52 AM
Oh, Nori - is X-23 going to have to gut a bitch?

Great issue.

The art worked really well, much better than in "Quest for Magik" - with the exception of Young's Shadowcat, who looks nothing like any version of the character I've ever seen before.

Christopher O
09-19-2007, 11:54 AM
I really enjoyed this issue. I loooove Anole and Rockslide together. Their dynamic is fantastic. Mercury, on the other hand, still fails at life. She was so annoying.

Orin GA
09-19-2007, 11:57 AM
So...what happened in ES?

frog
09-19-2007, 12:00 PM
So...what happened in ES?

Faded gave a quick synopsis at the end of her summary up at the top of the thread. Both Beasts visited the Guthries and now it looks like Ma will lose another one.

Faded
09-19-2007, 12:01 PM
I actually liked that sub-plot of the youngest mutant thing, reminded me of that Children of Men movie. In fact all of Messiah Complex is starting to remind me of Children of Men.

Yeah, I believe Carey mentioned we would see some similarities from the movie.

Yeah, but it still doesn't make any sense. All of these mutants were around before M-Day, their powers haven't newly emerged, so they're all just apart of the last remnant of mutants, seemingly destined to fade off into extinction and no different from the older mutants who survived M-Day with their powers intact. Being the youngest doesn't matter, just as being the youngest person alive before the sterility event in Children of Men didn't matter, because they were still sterile. The mutant baby that will be discovered afterwards will matter, as it could potentially be the start of a second wave of mutant population growth, and may reveal secrets about the future of the mutant species.

To be honest, I really didn't get it either nor why Tito didn't count.

I really enjoyed this issue. I loooove Anole and Rockslide together. Their dynamic is fantastic. Mercury, on the other hand, still fails at life. She was so annoying.

Yeah, I'm totally into Anole and Rockslide again, but Mercury and Nori were just getting on my nerves! I'm glad someone else sees it because I was starting to think I was being prejudiced against metallic people.

Christopher O
09-19-2007, 12:02 PM
Yeah, I'm totally into Anole and Rockslide again, but Mercury and Nori were just getting on my nerves! I'm glad someone else sees it because I was starting to think I was being prejudiced against metallic people.
LOL
I have always found Mercury annoying--no matter who was writing her. I hope Predator X eats her.

Kalen O.
09-19-2007, 12:05 PM
LOL
I have always found Mercury annoying--no matter who was writing her. I hope Predator X eats her.

And then I hope it dies of Mercury poisoning, cuz Im totally racist towards metallic people/things too.

Christopher O
09-19-2007, 12:08 PM
And then I hope it dies of Mercury poisoning, cuz Im totally racist towards metallic people/things too.
That works for me. I don't like metallic people either, except for Colossus and Illyana (when she's all ELDRITCH ARMOR ZOMGPWNN!!!).

HeckBoy
09-19-2007, 12:40 PM
Haven't gotten mine yet, but was Nezhno in this one? I don't know how, but he's quickly become my favorite of the bunch (and I normally don't care for super-strength only characters).

Faded
09-19-2007, 12:43 PM
LOL
I have always found Mercury annoying--no matter who was writing her. I hope Predator X eats her.

I totally liked her when she was a bitch.

Which probably verifies the things people say about me.

That works for me. I don't like metallic people either, except for Colossus and Illyana (when she's all ELDRITCH ARMOR ZOMGPWNN!!!).

And then I hope it dies of Mercury poisoning, cuz Im totally racist towards metallic people/things too.

Yeah, I'm totally metal-ist.

Haven't gotten mine yet, but was Nezhno in this one? I don't know how, but he's quickly become my favorite of the bunch (and I normally don't care for super-strength only characters).

All his appearances were covered in the preview pages IIRC.

Christopher O
09-19-2007, 12:45 PM
I totally liked her when she was a bitch.

Which probably verifies the things people say about me.
LOL
She was better then, but her visual is so awful with that stupid orange hair that I disliked her immediately.

Victorious
09-19-2007, 01:05 PM
ok, Indra can't be the youngest, it's so obvios he is not. Wolfcub, Pixie and Rubbermaid were always the youngest. Mercury and Indra just said that so Nick would not be a total paranoid and won't get worried about it, just to protect him. you can tell by his look when he says Nick is the youngest. I'm i the only one who think this?

Faded
09-19-2007, 01:10 PM
ok, Indra can't be the youngest, it's so obvios he is not. Wolfcub, Pixie and Rubbermaid were always the youngest. Indra just said that so Nick would not be a total paranoid and won't get worried about it, just to protect him. you can teel by his look when he says Nick is the youngest. I'm i the only one who think this?

That would make that scene make a whole lot more sense.

Good theory!

talat77
09-19-2007, 02:07 PM
I fear for Sooraya. :(

Me too... Especially with the flashback scene in the first pages and all... BUT, I do have a little bit of hope: Technically it should be Laura's smell on the abaya (not burqa!), since she was wearing it when she posed as Sooraya. Risman doesn't know that, so he would still hope Predator-X would go after Dust... I sincerely hope this will be the case, because for sure Laura wouldn't be killed off, and I am not so sure about Sooraya :eek:

For those of you that read it, Santo now knows that Vic is gay right?

I think so too yeah, wich is cool IMO!

LOL
She was better then, but her visual is so awful with that stupid orange hair that I disliked her immediately.

Really? I love her visual actually, more than her personality. Wich never bothered me either as well, I just think more focus should be put on her relationship with Julian...

ok, Indra can't be the youngest, it's so obvios he is not. Wolfcub, Pixie and Rubbermaid were always the youngest. Mercury and Indra just said that so Nick would not be a total paranoid and won't get worried about it, just to protect him. you can tell by his look when he says Nick is the youngest. I'm i the only one who think this?

You're not the only one... That is exactly how I read it too... Hopefully we'll see more of this later...


And about Nori: Like someone else said (forgot to quote that, sorry) she indeed is pretty annoying now. I was all for her being a good leader and all, but she totally sucks at it. Way too emotional and focused on the wrong things in a team/situation. She needs to step down and let someone else be leader, right now!!!

Elixir: Poor poor Elixir... Again, the faculty completely misses out here. Kitty seeing him like that and then just leaving him?? reminds me of how they dealt with Icarus when he was acting all cuckoo after he lost his wings. Kids like that need to be guided and monitored 24/7 and need serious help. Not just leave them be because you're too incompitent to deal with it yourself.
But then again, I always said Scott & Emma, and all of them suck on a daily basis when it comes to taking care of these kids. They need to get out of the mansion asap!!!

Overal, I really liked this isse!
I heart Nezhno!!!, Still love Loa and Trance is adorable, but she needs her old hairdo back :)

One complaint: Bling was not actually shown :(

drwho
09-19-2007, 02:09 PM
This was a much better issue than any of the quest of magik storyline that proceeded it. It was nice seeing all the school hanging out for a change and the X-Men realizing finally that they have been incompetent with the children. Pixie looked cool, but she did say she had a soul dagger and can teleport now. Please refer to my signature down below. The part where Dark Beast drugs the Guthrie kid is pretty scary stuff. Funny also how MS. Guthrie looks like an old frump. Will be interesting if that kid is really gonna bite it. I cant see that happening. Why would Sam want to be around someone that was involved to an extent in murdering a family member?

Jottma
09-19-2007, 02:09 PM
I really enjoyed this issue, to me I was able to get a better understanding of these young characters, who aren't marquee names yet. I do have some questions though, so if anyone could help me out that'd be great. Is there a reason we weren't able to witness the meeting between Scott and Nori this issue? Are we going to see what was discussed between them in the next issue? I know it was brought up earlier but I also am confused of the problem between Nori and David that caused her to kiss Julian. Also was X-23 angry for David when Nori kissed Julian?

P.S. I think Megan's crush on Cyclops is totally cute.

quillero
09-19-2007, 02:17 PM
LOL
She was better then, but her visual is so awful with that stupid orange hair that I disliked her immediately.

I'm kinda jealous now because I really like 'em all and don't want any of them dying.

But if I had to choose: Elixir and Surge. Actually I kinda want them dead. :evilsmile

Feel better now.

Toboe
09-19-2007, 02:28 PM
Anole is so awesome.

Excellent art by Skottie Young, this issue looked fantastic. The story was great as well, we really needed a downtime issue.

Thse scenes with Rockslide and Anole were hilarious, I love the chemisrty between those two. Pixie was being cute and all this issue, totally hitting on Cyclops, and the look has grown on me. Still not into the magic stuff, though, but I'll just wait and see on that one. Wolverine fighting imaginary unicorns is just priceless.

Wolf-Club: I hate this place. LOL

I kinda like the Surge/Hellion relationship since the last arc. I hope Nori's motives for kissing him are explained on the next issue, right now it seems like she got paranoid about David dying because he has no powers and realizing she wouldn't have to worry about Jullian...
It should be interesting to see how Laura reacts to this.

Great issue.

Don Quixote
09-19-2007, 02:30 PM
When was Cessily a bitch? For about 2 panels in the first issue of Academy X? I can't think of any occasion other than that, and that was only in one comment made towards Wallflower.

Kalen O.
09-19-2007, 02:33 PM
When was Cessily a bitch? For about 2 panels in the first issue of Academy X? I can't think of any occasion other than that, and that was only in one comment made towards Wallflower.

We're totally holding a grudge.

caney
09-19-2007, 02:33 PM
Wonderful issue!

I like that they're giving Dust a nice subplot here. She's overdue for the spotlight. I wonder how she'll hold up when she comes face-to-face with Matthew Risman again.

Scott came of as really cool here. I'm glad he's making his team get to know the kids better. It's about time!

I want more Nehzno!

Vic and Santo are soooo much fun together. Vic totally kicked his butt. And now Santo know's he's gay!

I'm worried for Josh. Kitty should have maybe spent more time with him there. He's obviously not in a good place right now.

Emma getting told off by Julian and Cessily was kinda fun. You can tell she really doesn't want to fail her students. I fell sorry for her. I think she's afraid to get close to them anymore because she can't deal with the pain if anything happens to them.

HI-FI!!! You HAVE to like Josh now. Loa is totally crushing on him. LOL!

Wolverine and Pixie are solid gold together!

I agree that Indra's totally trying to make Nick feel better. Nick's the youngest!

I have no clue what Nori was thinking there. One minute she's all concerned trying to find out what exactly happened to David and the next she's locking lips with Julian! We're in for a Surge versus X-23 and Hellion versus David drama fight! :eek:

Also, ES was very interesting this week. Poor Lewis... :(



I guess that's all my thoughts! Ooooh, the art was very cool as well. Love the different style Skottie's using here.

Toboe
09-19-2007, 02:35 PM
When was Cessily a bitch? For about 2 panels in the first issue of Academy X? I can't think of any occasion other than that, and that was only in one comment made towards Wallflower.

That's probably why I love Mercury. :D

And I guess Franklin Richards, Tito and Molly don't count since they're only referring to the mutants on the mansion. Which makes Indra's "I'm the youngest mutant on the planet" overly dramatic. Wonder if he really is the mansion's youngest kid or was he covering up for Nick?

protogarrett
09-19-2007, 02:35 PM
My issue did not come in the mail today. That's most irritating. :evilangry

However, I found some scans elsewhere and I have to say that Anole is really stealing some scenes!

Beast to Santo: "Now, I'd like to see how you do re-forming when someone else shatters you . . . " Santo: "What?!" Anole: "Ooo! Ooo! Me!" :D

Ooh! Where are these scans! Mine always come a week later for overseas shipping.

Don Quixote
09-19-2007, 03:00 PM
It'll be very interesting to see Laura handle jealousy. She could barely deal with 'crush', for crying out loud. This is the sort of stuff I'll really miss if she does leave this book for X-Force full time. Not the drama, but her learning how to deal with it.

I do feel bad for Emma, and have done throughout the NXM run. She really does want the best for them, and really does care about them. She just can't bring herself to show what she sees as a weakness in front of others.

quillero
09-19-2007, 03:04 PM
It'll be very interesting to see Laura handle jealousy. She could barely deal with 'crush', for crying out loud. This is the sort of stuff I'll really miss if she does leave this book for X-Force full time. Not the drama, but her learning how to deal with it.

I do feel bad for Emma, and have done throughout the NXM run. She really does want the best for them, and really does care about them. She just can't bring herself to show what she sees as a weakness in front of others.

I remember reading an interview with Kyle, I think, where he says they had planned a scene for NXM 32 where Sofia comes back to the mansion for the wake and Laura punches her after seeing Julian kissing her.

I think it's gonna be a catfight next issue.

cgar
09-19-2007, 03:11 PM
so good issue. i dont understand why people say Mercury is annoying, she didnt really do anything. I think that Dust and Mercury need some panel time. NORI is so annoying to me i hope predator X eats her lol jk but she is annoying. Julian needs a haircut. he doesnt fit the grundgy long hair type. Craig and Chris should do an arc where the team goes to look for Dust's mother and we could get some insight on dust.

Anole and Rockslide interaction was good. Pixie talks too much but im getting used to it.

Diablito
09-19-2007, 03:19 PM
Gah! No mention of Tito! Grrrr.


The art was great though... and so was everything else except the lack of Tito.

Don Quixote
09-19-2007, 03:25 PM
so good issue. i dont understand why people say Mercury is annoying, she didnt really do anything. I think that Dust and Mercury need some panel time. NORI is so annoying to me i hope predator X eats her lol jk but she is annoying. Julian needs a haircut. he doesnt fit the grundgy long hair type. Craig and Chris should do an arc where the team goes to look for Dust's mother and we could get some insight on dust.


They should do an issue where they take Julian to the barbers. That's the most important thing for them right now.

Looks like we'll get some insight to Dust in the next few issues. I do wish they'd kill of those Purifiers, though. They've served their purpose. But we've seen pages from Messiah Complex showing the Maurauders killing a few, so things are looking up.

Toboe
09-19-2007, 04:04 PM
Certain students (Hellion) feel that other critera should be considered in the search.


Yeabuhwhat?

CE_Rap
09-19-2007, 04:07 PM
Ooh! Where are these scans! Mine always come a week later for overseas shipping.

enjoy--

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q268/CE-Rap/New_Xmen_42_DCP_0016.jpg

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q268/CE-Rap/New_Xmen_42_DCP_0017.jpg

Christopher O
09-19-2007, 04:15 PM
Skottie Young's Anole is the best ever. It makes me sad that he won't be drawing him anymore.

CE_Rap
09-19-2007, 04:30 PM
Skottie Young's Anole is the best ever. It makes me sad that he won't be drawing him anymore.

yea---it's like if Bachalo and Ramos had an art baby---Skottie Young would be their kid

ToxicTeen
09-19-2007, 04:49 PM
Nice issue. So we get some insight on Santo's condition, I thought that he would have lava based powers too, but then he would be like Magma. But from what Beast said about him being a psychic entity, is he like Malice but instead of possessing people, he stays in rock like body? :confused:

I didn't know that Indra was the youngest, I thought it was Pixie cause of her bubbly personality. It was really funny when she had her meeting with Wolverine. :D

Speaking of meeting, it was good that Julian and Cess were being cold towards Miss Frost. I was excepting Julian to tell her about making Nori team leader was mistake.(Which I think it is) I wonder does Emma know that Wither is with Selene or not? I think she knows but doesn't want to tell any of the students fearing they might go after Selene.

I really don't understand why Nori kissed Julian to get back at David. It's not like David did anything to her. Before I read the issue, I thought David was avoiding her cause she wasn't right in the head recently. That probably would have been a better reason to revenge kiss Julian.

Toboe
09-19-2007, 05:30 PM
I wonder does Emma know that Wither is with Selene or not? I think she knows but doesn't want to tell any of the students fearing they might go after Selene.


I dunno, Rahne called Emma to inform her of Wither's whereabouts but was interrupted by Hellion destroying the mansion's ceiling or something, I think.
So she may or may not know. :confused:

skottie
09-19-2007, 05:35 PM
The next issue will give you a little more on the kiss. When someone scares you and you feel hurt, sometimes you don't know how to deal with the feelings so you react in a hurtful way. Like David's death in Limbo scared Nori so much that the only way to express herself was to hurt David by kissing Hellion. Again, there will be more in the next issue to help you out.

Thanks for the kind words everyone.

frog
09-19-2007, 05:42 PM
The next issue will give you a little more on the kiss. When someone scares you and you feel hurt, sometimes you don't know how to deal with the feelings so you react in a hurtful way. Like David's death in Limbo scared Nori so much that the only way to express herself was to hurt David by kissing Hellion. Again, there will be more in the next issue to help you out.

Thanks for the kind words everyone.

You outdid yourself, Skottie!

Pach!
09-19-2007, 05:45 PM
Yeah Skottie excellent job man...

I figures we'd probably get some type of explanation next issue.

Faded
09-19-2007, 05:53 PM
Me too... Especially with the flashback scene in the first pages and all... BUT, I do have a little bit of hope: Technically it should be Laura's smell on the abaya (not burqa!), since she was wearing it when she posed as Sooraya. Risman doesn't know that, so he would still hope Predator-X would go after Dust... I sincerely hope this will be the case, because for sure Laura wouldn't be killed off, and I am not so sure about Sooraya :eek:

Sooraya I wouldn't mind losing. I liked her at first, but now she's just a cool visual who otherwise leaves no impression on me when she appears.

Really? I love her visual actually, more than her personality. Wich never bothered me either as well, I just think more focus should be put on her relationship with Julian...

Me too. I think she has a great character design...when her hair isn't BRIGHT orange and sporting some wild and humongous ponytail.

As much as he was a fairly generic artist, Randy Green really made her look nice in the first issue of the series. Sleek, styled back hair with more of a subtle hue was really the way to go IMO.

Still love Loa and Trance is adorable, but she needs her old hairdo back :)

I loved her hair! It was like she was a little punk rock fashionista. :)

Gah! No mention of Tito! Grrrr.

The art was great though... and so was everything else except the lack of Tito.

But there was a mention of Tito!

They said he was gross. Sorry. :(

yea---it's like if Bachalo and Ramos had an art baby---Skottie Young would be their kid

I know! I just realized how much he would compliment Bachalo. Their Beasts are almost identical (and I totally love it!).

caney
09-19-2007, 06:02 PM
Elixir: Poor poor Elixir... Again, the faculty completely misses out here. Kitty seeing him like that and then just leaving him?? reminds me of how they dealt with Icarus when he was acting all cuckoo after he lost his wings. Kids like that need to be guided and monitored 24/7 and need serious help. Not just leave them be because you're too incompitent to deal with it yourself.


Yes! This is exactly what I thought reading that scene. How could she just leave him like that? Loa seems interested in him now. Maybe she can get through to Josh before it's too late. That would be cool.

I'm worried about his fate when they face the Purifiers again. I'm sure he'll be a high priority target since he took out Stryker.

Syzygy
09-19-2007, 06:04 PM
The next issue will give you a little more on the kiss. When someone scares you and you feel hurt, sometimes you don't know how to deal with the feelings so you react in a hurtful way. Like David's death in Limbo scared Nori so much that the only way to express herself was to hurt David by kissing Hellion. Again, there will be more in the next issue to help you out.

Thanks for the kind words everyone.

Thanks for explaining. I loved the issue, BTW. Great work.

Affinity
09-19-2007, 06:05 PM
I fear for Sooraya. :(

Yes. ;_;

...

The art is sublime. I love Skottie like a bulimic girl loves her index finger.
LOLOL<3

For some reason, Angel Salvadore's kid Tito doesn't count (have no idea why) nor does Franklin Richards and Molly (of the Runaways) doesn't seem to register on Cerebra.
I think it was kinda like stupid kid talk. Like, yeah Tito's the youngest, but who the f is Tito anyway to them? Same with Franklin, like someone said, he's so high-profile and blessed.


The student interview material is rather random and overly dramatic. Emma is basically "how's your day" and Cessily and Julian are all like "ANGST WHERE's WITHER?! YOU DONT TALK TO US ANYMORE OR TAKE US TO THE GAME ANYMORE." *runs away and slams the door!!!*
Hahaha, yeah, total wtf////???.

WHAT DID I THINK OF IT? You're dying to know, I'm sure.
I think it was an overall good issue, though there certainly were some parts I thought were awkward (as noted in the summary).
I'd give it a B.[/quote]
B is a good score. It was a little too awkward at points.

Molly wasn't registering on cerebra because she's traveled in time! LOL at continuity.
LOLOLOLLO!!!! Nice catch, Andres!! LOL that's hilarious!

I hope Dust lives. Seriously. Marvel, don't kill her.
Yes plz.

I actually liked that sub-plot of the youngest mutant thing, reminded me of that Children of Men movie. In fact all of Messiah Complex is starting to remind me of Children of Men.
The arc is titled, "Children of X-Men". LOL clever.

Oh, Nori - is X-23 going to have to gut a bitch?

Great issue.

The art worked really well, much better than in "Quest for Magik" - with the exception of Young's Shadowcat, who looks nothing like any version of the character I've ever seen before.

LOLOL GUT A BITCH
And yeah, I thought Kitty was Trance and I'm like JEEZ WHAT IS THIS GIRL'S POWER?

That would make that scene make a whole lot more sense.

Good theory!

ok, Indra can't be the youngest, it's so obvios he is not. Wolfcub, Pixie and Rubbermaid were always the youngest. Mercury and Indra just said that so Nick would not be a total paranoid and won't get worried about it, just to protect him. you can tell by his look when he says Nick is the youngest. I'm i the only one who think this?

Very nice!

Me too... Especially with the flashback scene in the first pages and all... BUT, I do have a little bit of hope: Technically it should be Laura's smell on the abaya (not burqa!), since she was wearing it when she posed as Sooraya. Risman doesn't know that, so he would still hope Predator-X would go after Dust... I sincerely hope this will be the case, because for sure Laura wouldn't be killed off, and I am not so sure about Sooraya :eek:

One complaint: Bling was not actually shown :(
Ooooooh! Hopefully that's picked up on!

And yeah, but at least she's still alive!

The next issue will give you a little more on the kiss. When someone scares you and you feel hurt, sometimes you don't know how to deal with the feelings so you react in a hurtful way. Like David's death in Limbo scared Nori so much that the only way to express herself was to hurt David by kissing Hellion. Again, there will be more in the next issue to help you out.

Thanks for the kind words everyone.

Oh, cool! I just wish it had been clearer throughout the issue (in writing; art = total awesome. Use this style more often!)

I was wondering which pages you colored and which Beaulieu did? If it's too much don't worry about it.

Sooraya I wouldn't mind losing. I liked her at first, but now she's just a cool visual who otherwise leaves no impression on me when she appears.

I loved her hair! It was like she was a little punk rock fashionista. :)
Aw, I'm just biased to like Sooraya. +5 for not being a WASP. Also awesome on Nezhno explaining it's not a burqa, lol, even I didn't know that.

And I BET Loa makes her own clothes! Bohemian fashion and whatnot!

Affinity
09-19-2007, 06:07 PM
OH RIGHT. I totally loved this issue. Wish it had read a little better but really, it's fine.

Liked seeing the kids a lot. Also omg lolol my jaw was all :OOOOOOO when Nori kissed Julian! And then Laura goes SKIKT and I LOL'd out loud!! Too funny!

talat77
09-19-2007, 06:40 PM
Sooraya I wouldn't mind losing. I liked her at first, but now she's just a cool visual who otherwise leaves no impression on me when she appears.


Nooooooooooo!!! I would hate it if we lose Sooraya... She is in my opinion a character-character. With that I'm meaning she is intresting when her character is shown, her thoughts and her reactions to the people around her, more than her powers. (Which are pretty much the same in every fight)
For example her appearances in the very first arc of this title, when she was clashing with Nori. Later when C&C took over her developing friendship with Laura and how she tried to explain relegion to her. They need to pick that up IMO... Icarus!!! That was wonderful to go on, but unfortunately got axed...
And now Pixie, first in issue 35, and now in this one. Her face expressions when 'tolerating' Megan's yacking around are great and priceless IMO. And I would love it if they would go somewhere with her and Nezhno (not romantically!!!, but as a good and deep friendship)

But I think you are going to get your wish... Predator-X is going to hunt for her (my earlier point about the abaya having X-23's scent, will probably not be picked up on), the December solicits say he/it makes another victim and Dust is not shown on the Finch cover during MC :(

CE_Rap
09-19-2007, 07:00 PM
Nooooooooooo!!! I would hate it if we lose Sooraya... She is in my opinion a character-character. With that I'm meaning she is intresting when her character is shown, her thoughts and her reactions to the people around her, more than her powers. (Which are pretty much the same in every fight)
For example her appearances in the very first arc of this title, when she was clashing with Nori. Later when C&C took over her developing friendship with Laura and how she tried to explain relegion to her. They need to pick that up IMO... Icarus!!! That was wonderful to go on, but unfortunately got axed...
And now Pixie, first in issue 35, and now in this one. Her face expressions when 'tolerating' Megan's yacking around are great and priceless IMO. And I would love it if they would go somewhere with her and Nezhno (not romantically!!!, but as a good and deep friendship)

But I think you are going to get your wish... Predator-X is going to hunt for her (my earlier point about the abaya having X-23's scent, will probably not be picked up on), the December solicits say he/it makes another victim and Dust is not shown on the Finch cover during MC :(

didn't really have the time to write a "Why I love Dust" post---so thanks for making me not have to (I'm pretty busy over here;) )

I'll be sad to see her go--but the ONLY consolation if Dust IS axed----I will ABSOLUTELY use her as a regular on REJEX!:p

Shonuff
09-19-2007, 07:04 PM
I think the thing with Nori and Jullian is an attempt by Nori to drive David away. David has sort of been the unofficial leader/member of that team, but for some reason Nori thinks he's more at risk than he was before of being seirously hurt, and the situation in limbo just made her fears worse, so maybe her kissing Jullian (someone that David has never really gotten along with) is her trying to drive him away as a means to protect him.

Affinity
09-19-2007, 07:16 PM
didn't really have the time to write a "Why I love Dust" post---so thanks for making me not have to (I'm pretty busy over here;) )

I'll be sad to see her go--but the ONLY consolation if Dust IS axed----I will ABSOLUTELY use her as a regular on REJEX!:p

!!!!

Hot! That's at least good consolation. Not like "WELL WE'RE PUBLISHING MARVEL SPOTLIGHT THAT MONTH HAAAAAY" lolol.

caney
09-19-2007, 08:26 PM
Wolverine was fighting hallucinatory unicorns!

Tee-hee!

Pach!
09-19-2007, 08:35 PM
Wolverine was fighting hallucinatory unicorns!

Tee-hee!

I laughed too, but then I imagined injured unicorns like in Harry Potter.

Brian M.
09-19-2007, 08:36 PM
The scene w/ Pixie and Surge talking to Cyclops and Wolverine was really cute. Also the part w/ Wolverine chasing Pixie was actually really funny. "!@$% unicorns"

Christopher O
09-19-2007, 08:37 PM
OMG! Brian loves Pixie! HAHAHA

Faded
09-19-2007, 09:09 PM
I think it was kinda like stupid kid talk. Like, yeah Tito's the youngest, but who the f is Tito anyway to them? Same with Franklin, like someone said, he's so high-profile and blessed.

But then...why look for the youngest mutant of all~~~ if you're not going to really do it. It makes it seem like a forced plot point.

B is a good score. It was a little too awkward at points.

Yeah, the issue would be GREAT if it read better.

The arc is titled, "Children of X-Men". LOL clever.

LOL. I didn't catch that.

Oh, cool! I just wish it had been clearer throughout the issue (in writing; art = total awesome. Use this style more often!)

And I BET Loa makes her own clothes! Bohemian fashion and whatnot!

LOL. I think Trance would make her own clothes, but Loa is an expensive ho and shops at all the overpriced surfer shops.

Nooooooooooo!!! I would hate it if we lose Sooraya... She is in my opinion a character-character. With that I'm meaning she is intresting when her character is shown, her thoughts and her reactions to the people around her, more than her powers. (Which are pretty much the same in every fight)
For example her appearances in the very first arc of this title, when she was clashing with Nori. Later when C&C took over her developing friendship with Laura and how she tried to explain relegion to her. They need to pick that up IMO... Icarus!!! That was wonderful to go on, but unfortunately got axed...
And now Pixie, first in issue 35, and now in this one. Her face expressions when 'tolerating' Megan's yacking around are great and priceless IMO. And I would love it if they would go somewhere with her and Nezhno (not romantically!!!, but as a good and deep friendship)

But I think you are going to get your wish... Predator-X is going to hunt for her (my earlier point about the abaya having X-23's scent, will probably not be picked up on), the December solicits say he/it makes another victim and Dust is not shown on the Finch cover during MC :(

I don't want her to die! I just don't really care for her.

She's not Nori or anything. JKJKJKJK

I did like her culture clash with Nori way back when, but I want to see her bring more to the table. Even Wolf Cub is gaining on her in my book (<3 Ricky's love for him don't hurt meplz!).

I <3 dark skinned beauties, diversity, and her awesome design -- just make me saw "wow" for like .5 panels and I'll STFU.

The scene w/ Pixie and Surge talking to Cyclops and Wolverine was really cute. Also the part w/ Wolverine chasing Pixie was actually really funny. "!@$% unicorns"

You SISSY!

Omega Alpha
09-19-2007, 09:23 PM
To be honest, I really didn't get it either nor why Tito didn't count.


I think just because they wanted one of their characters to be the youngest? Or the kids just want it to be one of them.

Anyway, it was a nice issue, although i thought the Surge/Hellion thing was unecessary. Pixie definitively stole the show. But it could have been a great issue without that ending, this trick of killing or making us think they killed someone already got old, and of course, it doesn't help that Whedon is doing the same thing every issue in Astonishing.

bluedmighty
09-19-2007, 09:27 PM
Unfortunate foreshadowing for Gentle.

Shame.:evilangry

Brian M.
09-19-2007, 09:28 PM
Santo was pretty cool, he's still one of my favorite characters, I like that he's not just a Mutant Thing now. Nezhno was really cool too, i like him.

Victorious
09-19-2007, 10:03 PM
i love they take an issue to explain a couple of things, like teachers-students interaction, wither, powers. So, about powers…

-Rockslide, so he is a psychic entity that can reform himself in a golem composed of any type of rock surrounding him and explode at will. so, he could take, sand, soil, rock, magma, etc forms... he’s pretty much indestructible. Wonder if he could extend his powers and control rocks around him, like Black Tom’s tree form.

-Anole’s own regenerative powers did that to his arm, not limbo. I wonder what will happen if his tongue get cut…

-Pixie’s dust hasn’t change, but she can learn magic now, and teleport! Plus she has a soul dagger and a irritating personality, love how she goes everywhere telling everyone what she thinks about them…. “now that we are team members….” Love to see more of her with other characters too, like Dust, X, Hellion and Rockslide.

-Hellion can’t not move anything smaller then a refrigerator, good limitation to his powers. He should make a team with Debrii.

-Gentle will die if he use his power too much? That explain why Emma didn’t let him fight, but it suck cause we won’t see much of him fighting….

RickyD410
09-19-2007, 10:13 PM
But then...why look for the youngest mutant of all~~~ if you're not going to really do it. It makes it seem like a forced plot point.
Well, it wasnt really an assignment or anything. Mercury was just thinking about it, thats all. And that got them thinking, the youngest will probably be a big target. Its a title. Its a symbol. Bad guys like targeting symbols because not only is it a physical blow, its also an emotional one. Like the Twin Towers. Not only was it a terrible physical attack, it was a symbolic one as well.

Thats why Tito and Franklin dont count. People arent going after them. No one is going to TOUCH Mr. Fantastic's son. I mean, seriously. And hardly anyone knows about Molly or Tito. But EVERYONE knows that the X-Men have students. They're all on file.

I did like her culture clash with Nori way back when, but I want to see her bring more to the table. Even Wolf Cub is gaining on her in my book (<3 Ricky's love for him don't hurt meplz!).
<3 WOLF CUB!!! I'm also in support of changing his codename to Lycan when he gets older. Its cooler, still fitting, and doesnt have the connotation of a child.


And side note: Does anyone have some cool Anole avatars?

Alphaxman
09-20-2007, 12:49 AM
I loved this issue and New X-Men is my favorite title now, by-passing X-Factor and X-Men in that order. I’m getting excited with Sooraya’s sub-plot and I hope that she talks about how she fells about killing because, lets face it, she has killed almost as many people as X-23. Victor is still a peach to read and Santo is hilarious with his clueless ness. I wonder if they got scolded in those five minutes after busting out that window by Hank.
Why do people write Peter so indifferent to everything but Kitty? It’s like he doesn’t care to know these kids at all. Even back when he had a training class with them and Josh bust him up side his head, he didn’t talk to them with any compassion. GET OVER YOURSELF PETER! YOU’RE ALIVE; DEAL WITH IT AND MOVE ON!!!

I don’t get the hate Cessily is receiving. All she wants is to be liked and the people that she needs love from the most abandons her. Starting from her parents and even her crush Kevin left her.

I still don’t like Julian’s hair but I do like the fact that he’s having the same problems with his powers as Pyslocke did. If the X-Men really cared, they would contact Vance to help Julian with his powers. It’s a shame that Vance shows no emotion about M-Day over in the Initiative. I’m not saying he should join the X-books but at least make a guest appearance just once.

I love the fact that everyone Nori asked lied about what happened to David but Laura. Ever she didn’t have a clue about how Nori felt, didn’t care, or respected her enough to tell her the truth. But Nori is really missed up in the head to blame David for what happened to him. Maybe she’s mad at him because she had to find out form someone else and not telling her himself. Not to generalize, but most girls hate that. But one thing, she needs to do is watch her back because Laura was NOT feeling that kiss. It would be funny if Nori woke up one night to find Laura standing over her with her claws out. GET HER GIRL!!!

I hope some of you guys are right and Indra was just pretending to be the youngest for Wolf cub sake. He and Pixie should be the youngest of the students. And I’m like most of you in not understanding why Beck and Angel’s kid doesn’t count. His is still a mutant even though his mutation began at birth, just like Nightcrawler. So in reality Beck’s son is the youngest, followed by Molly and then someone from the school. But I don’t see why the Richard’s daughter Valerie shouldn’t grow up to have powers like Franklin or did her potential powers disappear with Franklin’s after the whole Abraxas ordeal?

Hi-Fi
09-20-2007, 07:19 AM
LOL! One day without the internet and my girl steals my avatar idea!! Well, what's mine is yours, babe. ;)

Anyway, this issue was simply perfect for me. Drama, comedy and fantastic art from Skottie. He can't go away!! His new style is THAT good! I mean, best Loa ever? Yes, sir!

My favorite parts were Nezhno telling the kids about his powers, all the Anole/Santo scenes, X-23 telling what happened to David in details to Surge (LOL!) and obviously the ice-cream moment. And for the first time, Nick was a lot of fun.

And ugh, Caney! Loa IS totally crushing on Elixir. Girl has NO TASTE.


Oh, and best ES chapter yet, I think. That last page was ultra creep.

Anna
09-20-2007, 08:13 AM
Funny that the stupidest mutant on the planet has mental powers.

RickyD410
09-20-2007, 08:28 AM
And for the first time, Nick was a lot of fun.

Ahem. Nick is ALWAYS lots of fun.

Funny that the stupidest mutant on the planet has mental powers.

I know. Its a bit terrifying, isnt it?

Volk1
09-20-2007, 11:05 AM
Yeah, Hi-Fi I really liked Wolf Cub this issue. I remember I used to hate him but not anymore.

I feel for Gentle bt then I don't - but I really like the concept of the vibranium tattoos. It's a nice visual design as well as smart when it comes to his powers.

All the characters stole the show! All of them. This isse was sooo good. Chris Yost Da Man! There was no Bling! or Onyxx though. Not like I reeeallly missed them.

Also, Hellion had the best lines. Did he bang the Cuckoos? Cuz Mercury was like "how old are the Cuckoos?" and Julian's like "old enough." And Mercury's like "perv!" Sweet. :)



What a combination this isse with the art, colors, and writing.

And even proving that Indra DOES exist.

Oh - only thing...I could not tell Kitty from Trance. I hope they kinda fix that - give Kitty a darker brown in her hair or something.

Trance is much more prettier and less used. :)

Syzygy
09-20-2007, 11:36 AM
Well, upon a third reading, I was struck by how much damage the mansion receives in any one day, even when they're not being attacked.

From Hellion blasting away part of his room to Rockslide apparently smashing through the outside wall in pursuit of Anole....

Then there's Laura, carving up the pool table in the middle of a game. She's worse than attempting to house train an alley cat! So is there even a single piece of furniture she hasn't carved up?

One wonders how they manage to keep everything in working order....;)

Hey, Skottie! You'd better get Absolom Mercatur over to the mansion before everybody has to start living in tents!:D

RonnieThunderbolts
09-20-2007, 02:46 PM
Franklin Richards and Tito Bohusk don't count because A) Frank is well protected, and B) Tito isn't enrolled at the school

They aren't trying to find the objectively youngest Mutant, Mercury just wants to know because it feels like the youngest of them is a potential target. They're finding the youngest Mutant of the student body, not on Earth. I don't think there is any way Indra is not serious, he looks totally freaked out.

Harlock
09-20-2007, 02:49 PM
I loved the issue. I don't need lots of dangerous fights. I love the character-building and interaction as much as anything.

Shane Shooter
09-20-2007, 02:58 PM
Tito Bohusk ? Beaks kid ? when was he last seen and what happend to his other siblings ?

Pach!
09-20-2007, 03:00 PM
Tito Bohusk ? Beaks kid ? when was he last seen and what happend to his other siblings ?

Exiles House of M, all the other siblings got depowered.

caney
09-20-2007, 03:03 PM
I don't think there is any way Indra is not serious, he looks totally freaked out.

Really? I kinda read that like he was gonna tell Cessily his name was right there on the list, but then he got the hint that she was trying to find an out for Wolf Cub to make him not worry.

Hi-Fi
09-20-2007, 03:04 PM
Jason, Loa will totally "save" Elixir. You'll have to LOVE her now.

Faded
09-20-2007, 03:05 PM
LOL! One day without the internet and my girl steals my avatar idea!! Well, what's mine is yours, babe. ;)

Anyway, this issue was simply perfect for me. Drama, comedy and fantastic art from Skottie. He can't go away!! His new style is THAT good! I mean, best Loa ever? Yes, sir!

My favorite parts were Nezhno telling the kids about his powers, all the Anole/Santo scenes, X-23 telling what happened to David in details to Surge (LOL!) and obviously the ice-cream moment. And for the first time, Nick was a lot of fun.

And ugh, Caney! Loa IS totally crushing on Elixir. Girl has NO TASTE.


Oh, and best ES chapter yet, I think. That last page was ultra creep.

I'm sorry! Take it! I had another one ready. :o

Nick was a lot of fun. I can totally see these former background students taking over.

I hope Loa doesn't do anything stupid if she's really in like with Josh! Hopefully this'll lead to more interaction between her and other students.

Franklin Richards and Tito Bohusk don't count because A) Frank is well protected, and B) Tito isn't enrolled at the school

They aren't trying to find the objectively youngest Mutant, Mercury just wants to know because it feels like the youngest of them is a potential target. They're finding the youngest Mutant of the student body, not on Earth. I don't think there is any way Indra is not serious, he looks totally freaked out.

Well they were looking on Cerebro for more information on the other young mutants and discussed finding out who was "the youngest mutant on the planet".

caney
09-20-2007, 03:08 PM
Jason, Loa will totally "save" Elixir. You'll have to LOVE her now.

I hope she does! Maybe she'll save him both mentally and physically! She could totally take down some Purifiers gunning for Josh and then slap him upside the head to bring him back to his senses.

mgs
09-20-2007, 03:10 PM
</p>I had one, big smile on my face reading this whole issue!! It was AWESOMETASTIC!!!!! :D The art, the story, dialogue, all of it!!! The only thing I did not agree with was the reimagined Colossus. He looked too weird. Wolvie had that great art thing going on when like Keith draws him or how he was in Meltdown, and chasing unicorns made me lol! :) </p>

If every x-men comic was like this, I'd be a very, VERY poor person. ;)

Hi-Fi
09-20-2007, 03:11 PM
LOL, I was joking, Faded. You look hot as Loa. ;)

Sentinel K
09-20-2007, 03:12 PM
I hope X-23 guts Nori.

What a c***.

CmX
09-20-2007, 03:14 PM
LOL
I have always found Mercury annoying--no matter who was writing her. I hope Predator X eats her.

LMAO! Me too, I really never cared for Mercury... like she just lacks a distinct personality IMO. Especially when standing next to characters like Josh, Pixie, Rockslide... etc.,

Brett P
09-20-2007, 04:33 PM
So, my expectations for this issue were high. Sky high. When the postman knocked at the door with my delivery I was still half asleep in bed - down the stairs I raced with my bed quilt hap-hazardly draped around me and I swear I probably FLASHED THE POSTMAN in my desperate scrabble LOL!

I then had to rush to get ready for work, and had to wait till lunch before I could get my mitts on the thing!

And Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh!

This issue was PERFECTION!

Art, script, character interaction...just TOO GOOD.

I was sitting in the canteen at work and on reading Beast and Colossus lines about telling the time, a very high pitched squeal of "Wa-hoooo!" errupted from me, followed by giddy laughter, preventing further reading for a good couple of minutes.

I was geeking out so much I was thrusting the issue in peoples faces when I emerged from lunch. It amused my so much I kept bursting into random giggles on the shop floor!

I swear, Victor is so much like me it almost scares me. He is far beyond any fictional character ever in terms of being a viewpoint character for me!

He was beyond awesome this issue. Attacking Santo, his face when he said "sissy". I'm IN LOVE with the revisiting of his "Shut!! Up!!" LOL

Santo again is fantastic and now has an amazing power. He makes me chuckle as usual.

Pixie continues to be adorable and hilarious. The infirmary scene, hanging onto Scott, the unicorns...this stuff is solid gold!

Wolf Cub was really cute.

I was also stimulated to screamy laughter by Julian and Cess blowing Frost off. "You've lost it havn't you?" and the door slamming followed by Emmas "...dismissed" was too hilarious!

I was on a total high for the rest of the day after this issue!

My only criticism - red hats DO NOT go with ginger hair LOL! I only noticed the hat in one random panel and had to actually go back to check to see if Cess was wearing it in the previous ones! Which of course she was. It should have been black and/or white to go with her top. Or if a bright color was desired - GREEN would have worked!

Jason, Loa will totally "save" Elixir. You'll have to LOVE her now.

Yeah. I guess Loa's importance is gonna come in the form of salvation for Josh then eh? I'd also love to see her make an escape tunnel for the non-team kids, when Predator X and/or the Purifiers turn up...

Also, Hi-Fi - Indra TOTALLY looks like you!!

Really? I kinda read that like he was gonna tell Cessily his name was right there on the list, but then he got the hint that she was trying to find an out for Wolf Cub to make him not worry.

Mm hmm, I read it this way too.

Alex A Sanchez
09-20-2007, 04:53 PM
Yeah, but it still doesn't make any sense...Being the youngest doesn't matter,

Except you are forgetting- they're kids! It doesn't have to make sense, all that matters is that it is very important to them. I think this is an excellent idea- it shows how they are very afraid to be in the position they are in, and how they are interpreting the very scarey real world around them. It also shows that they don't see the school as a safe place, a larger plot point circling all of the X-books at the moment. Its not. It houses over a quarter of the remaining mutants left- and the public nature of it makes it a huge target. I'm not sur why Forge isn't at work converting the damn thing into a fortress.


Other than that, OMG so much is going on in this issue:

• I love Rockslide's new power: now various artists can be creative in how they draw Santo, and he doesn't look like a Thing rip-off any more.
• Skottie's sketch style is even better than his Anime style from the last few issues.
• Why were the other students reluctant to say what Elixir did for David?
• For the first time, I am really starting to enjoy Dust's character. Props to C&C for putting her in the limelight next issue (it seems).
• I hope Elixir doesn't die. I like him too much, and his power is awesome.
• Anole kicks ass!
• I like Pixie better post Limbo.
• It never occured to me that Hellion was one of the last telekinetics. I've never liked him cuz his power was so unoriginal (that and he's been an asshole for most of the series), but now it makes sense to have someone like him around.

BEST ES YET!!!! Finally the story is moving somewhere! I enjoyed the character interaction of the earlier issues, but now the action is starting to happen. I feel so sorry for Mama Gutherie! She's going to hate Xavier forever for the tragedies in her family. Not to mention her anger at Beast!

Don Quixote
09-20-2007, 05:03 PM
• It never occured to me that Hellion was one of the last telekinetics. I've never liked him cuz his power was so unoriginal (that and he's been an asshole for most of the series), but now it makes sense to have someone like him around.


It never occured to me, either, and I've always loved Hellion. I always said, he may have generic powers, but he uses them in ways that we very rarely see from the likes of Rachel, Jean or any other TK merchants.

But thank you to C&C for pointing out that most of those TK merchants are no longer around.

The most generic marvel powers are still the ones possessed by Avengers-type characters. Flight and superstrength.

I agree that the 'youngest mutant' theme could go two ways. Someone like the Purifiers could target the youngest deliberately, as an example. Or it could be something that is only important to these kids. I prefer the second option, personally. It is the sort of silly thing you might worry about. There aren't going to be any more mutants, so who's the youngest, because they'll always be the youngest.

We all know that if the species did die out, Wolverine would be the last mutant, and march on for all eternity, unstoppable and unreadable.

Pyro
09-20-2007, 09:29 PM
Lovely issue. I really have fallen in love with this new generation of mutants, and I have to say, everyone shone in this issue. Everyone. Well, maybe not Surge. She wasn't very pleasant.

My favorite scene had to be Wolverine chasing Pixie while hallucinating unicorns. That, along with getting his nads shot in New Avengers, and being a kid again during the Astonishing Hellfire are are the top Wolverine moments for me. So funny. And Pixie is simply awesome.

Alphaxman
09-20-2007, 09:42 PM
I still stand by that Nori has emotional issues. She doesn’t do well under pressure and stress. Remember she is a run-a-way that had a chip on her shoulder from the beginning.
She most likely reacted that way because David didn’t tell her himself what happened to him. The others lied to her because they could see that she was already overly emotional about the whole ordeal. That doesn’t excuse her behavior but it might explain it. These kids really need a counselor to talk to about their problems. That’s a position Xi’an would be perfect for. They could say she was out getting her Masters in Psychology.

CE_Rap
09-20-2007, 11:34 PM
These kids really need a counselor to talk to about their problems. That’s a position Xi’an would be perfect for. They could say she was out getting her Masters in Psychology.

She's too busy dusting the reference books in the library.

steve2275
09-20-2007, 11:36 PM
were the writers trying to make COLOSSUS sound stupid waits for phill hunn comment :p
putting so as the first word woulda been MUCH better

CmX
09-20-2007, 11:39 PM
This issue was a lot of fun, it was a nice downtime issue with lots of characterization. I like Rockslides new power, well more like reveal on how it works I guess, seems interesting!

Skottie's style on this issue was so neat! It felt like reading a storybook.

Pixie is super cute and yeah she can be annoying, but she's just blissfully innocently unaware of the crap she's constantly spewing out lol I love her. :D

Alphaxman
09-21-2007, 12:07 AM
This issue was a lot of fun, it was a nice downtime issue with lots of characterization. I like Rockslides new power, well more like reveal on how it works I guess, seems interesting!

Is this a new power or was it there all along? He did control his body parts with some sort of psychic power. I’m glad C&C evolved he away form being a Thing clone.

steve2275
09-21-2007, 12:29 AM
Why do people write Peter so indifferent to everything but Kitty? It’s like he doesn’t care to know these kids at all. Even back when he had a training class with them and Josh bust him up side his head, he didn’t talk to them with any compassion. GET OVER YOURSELF PETER! YOU’RE ALIVE; DEAL WITH IT AND MOVE ON!!!
um
what are u talkin about?

Alphaxman
09-21-2007, 12:53 AM
um
what are u talkin about?

I’m talking about how Peter doesn’t really try to talk to these kids. He didn’t have one word to say to them and he questioned Hank on why he was even there. “Okay. You used me for a human shield. Thanks for wasting my time”. At least all the other X-Men tried to talk to these kids (even though it was less then successful). Maybe I’m missing something that someone can point out, but has he ever had a bonding moment with anyone other than Kitty sense he’s came back. I miss his close friendship with Kurt. His “little brother” bond with Ororo. His talks with Betsy while painting her. Even the bond he and Rogue had at one point. Kitty is not the only person he is closed with on the X-Men.

CmX
09-21-2007, 01:52 AM
Is this a new power or was it there all along? He did control his body parts with some sort of psychic power. I’m glad C&C evolved he away form being a Thing clone.

It was revealed before that his powers were psychic based? I don't remember that ...

CmX
09-21-2007, 01:54 AM
double post, oops! :P

RickyD410
09-21-2007, 03:09 AM
It was revealed before that his powers were psychic based? I don't remember that ...

No, it was never revealed that his powers were psychic in any way before this ish. He could launch off his body parts before, but he couldnt control them once he sent them flying.

And actually, in this ish Beast tells Santo that he formed himself twice already, but really he's done it three times. The first was in the Hellions mini, when they faught the Kingmaker.

Karl H
09-21-2007, 03:16 AM
Finally read this last night. I really enjoyed it. Some great character moments in the book. Anole vs Santo was awesome too.

CmX
09-21-2007, 03:40 AM
No, it was never revealed that his powers were psychic in any way before this ish. He could launch off his body parts before, but he couldnt control them once he sent them flying.

And actually, in this ish Beast tells Santo that he formed himself twice already, but really he's done it three times. The first was in the Hellions mini, when they faught the Kingmaker.

That's what I had figured, but Alphaxman confused me.

steve2275
09-21-2007, 07:00 AM
I miss his close friendship with Kurt.
His “little brother” bond with Ororo.
His talks with Betsy while painting her.
Even the bond he and Rogue had at one point. Kitty is not the only person he is closed with on the X-Men.
uve got me on the kurt part(course hes also been in space...like pete is now)hopefully be with him during mc
the did have a quick bond in (uncaany 460sumthin) and is hard when she is in africa and with the ff(return to ur real home soon)
rogue is never home anymore :)

Brett P
09-21-2007, 08:32 AM
No, it was never revealed that his powers were psychic in any way before this ish. He could launch off his body parts before, but he couldnt control them once he sent them flying.

And actually, in this ish Beast tells Santo that he formed himself twice already, but really he's done it three times. The first was in the Hellions mini, when they faught the Kingmaker.

No, in the Hellions mini, Julian just pieced Santos body back together like a jigsaw.

What Beast was talking about is the two times Santo has reformed himself from external rock :)

Porcelain
09-21-2007, 02:02 PM
Loved the Emma character beat (self preservation by emotionally distancing herself from the students because of her experience with the end of the Hellions) with all the kids understanding before she'd ever admit it. Yes Mercury is the moral heart but was nice to see Julian step up there too.

Get the feeling Cyclops struck a nerve somewhere regarding Nori's leadership and relationship with David for her to have swung off in the other direction like that.

Alex A Sanchez
09-21-2007, 03:38 PM
Someone like the Purifiers could target the youngest deliberately, as an example. Or it could be something that is only important to these kids. I prefer the second option, personally. It is the sort of silly thing you might worry about.

So do I. :) I hate it when kid and teen characters are written as adults. Some are more mature and logical, but most are supposed to be overwhelmingly emotional (real science biological note: the forebrain doesn't finish developing until early 20s- this is why so many logically stupid decisions are made in high school and early college, and why teens should never be allowed to marry).

Loved the Emma character beat (self preservation by emotionally distancing herself from the students because of her experience with the end of the Hellions) with all the kids understanding before she'd ever admit it.

Ahhhhh, this make a lot of sense. We're talking about her original Hellions, the bad guys, right? Wow, I'm totally loving Emma's characterization right now if that's the case. Because it shows that she totally cares for these kids if she knows it will hurt to lose them.

Big Red Spider
09-21-2007, 04:20 PM
Skottie Young Rocks! I love the fact that every month I get this 3 dollar book of awesome art. I'm really going to miss him, but I cant wait to see what he does next.

The writing as always was great. These kids seem like real students and not just young soldiers in a never ending war. This is one of my favorite books right now and I hope it stays this good forever.

chickrockguitar
09-21-2007, 04:58 PM
Got my copy today!
Loved it!

Although, Indra the youngest Mutant? I don't think so. I'd say Megan was younger than him. And Molly the youngest...

Don Quixote
09-21-2007, 05:08 PM
Apparently, Molly may not be a mutant.

And Rockslide only remade himself for the first time in Limbo. In the Nimrod arc, Hellion put him back together, and inadvertantly activated this new aspect of Santo's powers, it seems.

I do think it's Wolf Cub who's the youngest at the mansion, and Indra lied to make him feel better. He was clearly upset at the prospect.

It will be interesting to see what Skottie Young does next. If this next project is as surprising as he said, I really don't know what it could be. I'd love it to be Runaways, but we know Ramos is going there after Whedon & Ryan finish their little run.

chickrockguitar
09-21-2007, 05:16 PM
I don't think Molly Regestered cos she's back in 1920's NYC at the moment.
She IS a Mutant tho. :)

Don Quixote
09-21-2007, 05:17 PM
I don't think Molly Regestered cos she's back in 1920's NYC at the moment.
She IS a Mutant tho. :)

Apparently, according to her parents, she tested negative for the X-gene.

mgs
09-21-2007, 10:54 PM
I don't think Molly Regestered cos she's back in 1920's NYC at the moment.
She IS a Mutant tho. :)

well i don't think any of them are registered, they've been hiding from the law for some time now, nevermind registering with the government. But from what I remember, lots of people know of them and Cap may have even mentioned them in one ish of CW.Apparently, according to her parents, she tested negative for the X-gene.

really?!? O.o

RickyD410
09-21-2007, 11:31 PM
Although, Indra the youngest Mutant? I don't think so. I'd say Megan was younger than him. And Molly the youngest...

Theres a theory flying around that Mercury and Indra lied to make Nick feel better. I mean, everyone saw how distraught he was, and the way Paras started his sentence, it sounded like he was going to say "What? It's right there" but stopped at "its" and then lied to make Nick feel better.

Thats my theory and I'm sticking to it! I mean, the obvious answer is either Wolf Cub or Pixie. It just has to be.

chickrockguitar
09-22-2007, 05:23 AM
well i don't think any of them are registered, they've been hiding from the law for some time now, nevermind registering with the government. But from what I remember, lots of people know of them and Cap may have even mentioned them in one ish of CW.Nooo! lol! I ment regestered as in regestered on the Cereba scale, lol.

Apparently, according to her parents, she tested negative for the X-gene.Yeah, lol, I know. But that's why they where so surprised, because it turned out that she WAS a Mutant. She was listed as one by Marvel in their 198 files. And the Astonishing team wanted to take her back to the mansion cos she was a mutant in the 2006 Free Comic Book Day Issue. Plus, I'm sure she's been out right called a "Mutant" on more than one occasion in Runaways.

Brett P
09-22-2007, 06:06 AM
Skotties Wolf Cub looks like a lion, CRG and I both thought the same!

And the Astonishing team tracked down Molly/The Runaways in the Free Comic Book day issue pencilled by our very own Skottie. I'd say she's a mutant.

I wouldn't mind at all if she was revealed not to be though. There have been hints, like when Cloak said not even a God could rip off his cloak and Molly did. But honestly, how else would she have powers if she wasn't a mutant?

Mitsaso
09-22-2007, 07:17 AM
I think I know why Nori kissed Julian!

It was either because she was mad at David for hiding from her the fact that he died in Limbo, and/or because she thinks that the only reason he's still in the mansion is because he wants to be with her, so if they break up he'll go back to his home and stop being around all this danger!


:D

CE_Rap
09-22-2007, 07:32 AM
I think I know why Nori kissed Julian!

It was either because she was mad at David for hiding from her the fact that he died in Limbo, and/or because she thinks that the only reason he's still in the mansion is because he wants to be with her, so if they break up he'll go back to his home and stop being around all this danger!


:D

Geee--i thought it was cause she was a hoe:p

Talon X
09-22-2007, 07:34 AM
Geee--i thought it was cause she was a hoe:p

Lol, you never know, it still could be that!

Hi-Fi
09-22-2007, 07:39 AM
Skotties Wolf Cub looks like a lion, CRG and I both thought the same!

And the Astonishing team tracked down Molly/The Runaways in the Free Comic Book day issue pencilled by our very own Skottie. I'd say she's a mutant.

I wouldn't mind at all if she was revealed not to be though. There have been hints, like when Cloak said not even a God could rip off his cloak and Molly did. But honestly, how else would she have powers if she wasn't a mutant?
Molly is definitely a mutant. And I like that she is one.

The only reason Celeste didn't found her is because she's currently traveling in time.

The_Bubblie
09-22-2007, 09:42 AM
LOL
I have always found Mercury annoying--no matter who was writing her. I hope Predator X eats her.

I personally love it whenever Mercury yells at Emma Frost. Actually, anyone getting mad at Emma Frost makes me like them. So I guess I'm biased.

The_Bubblie
09-22-2007, 09:57 AM
I really don't understand why Nori kissed Julian to get back at David. It's not like David did anything to her. Before I read the issue, I thought David was avoiding her cause she wasn't right in the head recently. That probably would have been a better reason to revenge kiss Julian.

The impression I'm getting is that she kissed Julian to try and push David away. She's probably thinking that as long as he's around than he needs to be protected or else he'll die. Either way I consider it a crappy development. We already did this teenage crap with David, Wallflower and Josh.

Tre Styles
09-22-2007, 10:12 AM
Read it last night. Enjoyed it immensely. All the highlighted scenes....Victor/Santo, Pixie/Wolverine, Wolf Cub's commentary, Emma's distancing herself, info on Nezhno, the "Who Is the Youngest Mutant" game, Exlir's weirdness, Nori's shocker, and X-23's jealousy...all of it was just right on. The Nori/Julian thing at first stuck out to me as something that the old White Queen would've done in manipulating her students, but I figured it wouldn't be anything like that. it was just so out of the blue, I didn't think Nori would be acting on her own....but as Bubblie just said, it could be Nori's way of trying to push David away. :cool:

Toboe
09-22-2007, 10:34 AM
I think I know why Nori kissed Julian!

It was either because she was mad at David for hiding from her the fact that he died in Limbo, and/or because she thinks that the only reason he's still in the mansion is because he wants to be with her, so if they break up he'll go back to his home and stop being around all this danger!


:D

Yeah, that must be it! I heart you!
Hopefully Surge will change her crazy yelling attitude in the near future and become likeable again.

Damn, just one more Skottie issue... I really hope he'll come back after Messiah Complex, is the book is still there. He's just a perfect fit for the title.
And I love all of his designs for the characters. Although I'm still not really into Sawyer-like Hellion, but it was a nice twist.
I like how Ramos version looks, though.

caney
09-22-2007, 10:56 AM
I think I know why Nori kissed Julian!

It was either because she was mad at David for hiding from her the fact that he died in Limbo, and/or because she thinks that the only reason he's still in the mansion is because he wants to be with her, so if they break up he'll go back to his home and stop being around all this danger!


:D

I like your second reason there. It makes sense that she's extremely scared of him being out there with the team and getting hurt again. I think she's trying to push him away for his own safety, like you said.

frog
09-22-2007, 11:32 AM
My copy finally came! I hope the subscriptions aren't going to start coming late on a regular basis.

Now that I have it in my hands I have a few points and questions.

I don't believe Kitty is just abandoning Josh. It looks like she realized that Josh is having issues that can't be resolved in a quick meeting and is going for help. I take it that none of the adults know yet how Josh illicitly ramped up his abilities?

I'd really like to know who that is that Predator X killed, it certainly does look like a skrull from the ears. Does Predator X hunt only mutants, and if so, do depowered mutants count?

Endangered Species - If this didn't make Beast see he needs to pull back (and get the hell away from Dark Beast) he's totally lost! I don't see how what just happened could have been kept from the rest of the X-Men.

Don Quixote
09-22-2007, 01:31 PM
I don't believe Kitty is just abandoning Josh. It looks like she realized that Josh is having issues that can't be resolved in a quick meeting and is going for help. I take it that none of the adults know yet how Josh illicitly ramped up his abilities?


Cessily was worried about Josh, for sure. She mentioned to Julian that he'd flipped out again. But then they got distracted before they could do anything further about it.

Kitty did say she'd come back to speak to him, but that might well have just been to cover her retreat. It may turn out that she went to speak to Emma or Scott about it, but I wouldn't count on it.

I don't think anyone knows what Josh did, apart from the Cuckoos. And they aren't likely to say anything, given that they're culpable as well.

Brett P
09-22-2007, 01:40 PM
I think I know why Nori kissed Julian!

It was either because she was mad at David for hiding from her the fact that he died in Limbo, and/or because she thinks that the only reason he's still in the mansion is because he wants to be with her, so if they break up he'll go back to his home and stop being around all this danger!


:D

Well the actual reason he's still at the mansion isn't 'cos he wants to be with Nori, it's 'cos Scott (after being in contact with Davids parents) decided/realised it was just as dangerous outside the institute for ex-mutants as it was for mutants and basically told David he couldn't leave the mansion.

Skotties already given us hints as to the whys of the kiss ie the only way she could show David how hurt she was is by hurting him back to show him what it feels like :)

DarthCyclopsRLZ
09-22-2007, 01:42 PM
Best scene of the book: Pixie flying away with Wolvie in hot pursuit and cursing about unicorns.

Worst scene: Showdown in Emma's office. WTF, EMO much? :confused:

Don Quixote
09-22-2007, 01:57 PM
Well the actual reason he's still at the mansion isn't 'cos he wants to be with Nori, it's 'cos Scott (after being in contact with Davids parents) decided/realised it was just as dangerous outside the institute for ex-mutants as it was for mutants and basically told David he couldn't leave the mansion.


That was issue #26, I think, just before Laurie was killed. Pretty sure Cyclops gave David a choice in #33, and David decided to stay.

Syzygy
09-22-2007, 04:38 PM
It occurs to me that Professor Xavier would probably be the ideal person to help Elixir with his depression. Xavier himself had to deal with possessing Omega level power as a teen, that is, being effectively omnipotent compared to everyone around you.

Xavier would probably know exactly what to say to Josh.

HellFrost
09-22-2007, 04:41 PM
Best scene of the book: Pixie flying away with Wolvie in hot pursuit and cursing about unicorns.

Worst scene: Showdown in Emma's office. WTF, EMO much? :confused:

I completely agree. At first I just stared at it and then I totally burst out laughing. Everyone at work thought I was nuts.

I also agree with the scene between Emma/Julian/Cessily... I didn't really enjoy it that much. Although on the other hand I have to say, it is very good characterization for Emma.

Christopher O
09-22-2007, 04:48 PM
Best scene of the book: Pixie flying away with Wolvie in hot pursuit and cursing about unicorns.

Worst scene: Showdown in Emma's office. WTF, EMO much? :confused:
LOL
I completely agree! The scene in Emma's office only intensified my desire to see Mercury eaten by Predator X.

DarthCyclopsRLZ
09-22-2007, 04:50 PM
LOL
I completely agree! The scene in Emma's office only intensified my desire to see Mercury eaten by Predator X.

*high five*

I get it's cool to make grown-ups bad, but, really? That much?

What's that they say, again? Sometimes less is more.

caney
09-22-2007, 05:49 PM
LOL
I completely agree! The scene in Emma's office only intensified my desire to see Mercury eaten by Predator X.

Awww, but I liked that scene. Did you hate it or just hate Mercury (the latter's understandable)?

They've been building to that scene ever since Kyle and Yost started on the book. Emma's done a lot of things she feels are in the kids' best interest, but when looked at from their point of view, makes her look mean and uncaring. Julian has good reason to be mad at her after she was making him go after X-23 in Emma's stupid "fight to see who makes the roster". Then she took his leadership away after he failed. Emma's whole trust talk with Dust was very creepy, as well.

I think it's a great character beat for Emma. So much has happened to so many of her students in her past that now she's distancing herself from the current students so she won't be hurt again. I really feel for her.

Jack Flash
09-22-2007, 07:25 PM
i loved this issue! Wolverine's "F*ing Unicorns!" line was so funny. More Anole/Rockslide please!

mgs
09-23-2007, 12:27 AM
Nooo! lol! I ment regestered as in regestered on the Cereba scale, lol.

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oops! sorry 'bout that. O.O thanks for the clarification. ;)

chickrockguitar
09-23-2007, 04:34 AM
It occurs to me that Professor Xavier would probably be the ideal person to help Elixir with his depression. Xavier himself had to deal with possessing Omega level power as a teen, that is, being effectively omnipotent compared to everyone around you.

Xavier would probably know exactly what to say to Josh.Yeah, I totally agree. I think that would be quite cool actually. But, think it'll happen? No...

I think it was wrong of Kitty to back away from him. She may have been freaked, but she's suposed to be one of the people giving the kids support. She failed Josh is every where right there.

Where's Shan or Dani we they need them, lol.

Brett P
09-23-2007, 06:20 AM
The "showdown" in Emmas office was probably my 2nd fave scene in the issue! I can't believe some of you guys hated it!

Ju ad Cess have been "under Emmas wing" since New Mutants and I love that this is still being followed.

HellFrost
09-23-2007, 08:43 AM
The "showdown" in Emmas office was probably my 2nd fave scene in the issue! I can't believe some of you guys hated it!

Ju ad Cess have been "under Emmas wing" since New Mutants and I love that this is still being followed.

After I thought about it some more. I kind understand it. It's great characterization that both Julian and Cessily stood up to Emma together, and that Emma happens to be distancing herself from her students and can't bring herself to admit that or realize her own feelings.

I do hope that there is some kind of emotional reunion of some sort... I don't think I'll like it too much if they don't undergo some kind of reconciliation soon. I really don't want another Gen X. We still haven't seen her interact with any of the students from those days... at least none that I can remember or have read.

Affinity
09-23-2007, 08:49 AM
I'd hate it if she DID interact with them because you know most writers wouldn't have them be emotionally buddy-buddy and cool with each other. They'd write it all angsty and as if Gen X never happened, or they'd be angry with her for something.

Ice_Cold_Emma_Frost
09-23-2007, 08:52 AM
I think Emma's a bit in shock...she's used to having squadrons of teenaged mutants under her care and she's used to them dying...I think she's a bit lost that, for the most part, these kids can really take care of themselves

Affinity
09-23-2007, 08:55 AM
LOL

That's it! She's not used to them living this long!

Shadowbrat
09-24-2007, 02:27 PM
I noticed a continuity error in this issue.

In the Flashback, Sooraya re-intergrates from dust form in her Burqua. But in issue 27 when she goes into Dust Form She wasn't wearing Her Burqua (wich was taken by Laura), She should have re-emerged in her Undies in that scene.

RickyD410
09-24-2007, 04:08 PM
I noticed a continuity error in this issue.

In the Flashback, Sooraya re-intergrates from dust form in her Burqua. But in issue 27 when she goes into Dust Form She wasn't wearing Her Burqua (wich was taken by Laura), She should have re-emerged in her Undies in that scene.

I didnt think that it was the same scene. I think the flashback that we saw in this issue was from an off panel scene towards the end of the Stryker assault. After Sooraya killed the Purifiers in the hallway when she woke up in her underwear (which was WAY too slutty for Sooraya to EVER wear, even if it was underneath her Burqa/Abaya/Niqab Veil/Whatever theyre calling it these days), she had plenty of time to go grab a spare set of clothes before continuing the fight.

Shadowbrat
09-24-2007, 04:24 PM
But what with all her freinds being Slaughtered, I find it hard to belive that she would find the time to stop and get dressed. Time was of the essence.

CaptainCanada
09-24-2007, 04:33 PM
She's wearing the abaya/niqab midway through #27, when Emma and the team arrived to confront Stryker (and Elixir killed him); so it's consistent, anyway.

Pach!
09-24-2007, 04:34 PM
But what with all her freinds being Slaughtered, I find it hard to belive that she would find the time to stop and get dressed. Time was of the essence.

It doesn't take that long since she was right outside her room and all she has to do is make her dust cloud go inside the clothes.

Shadowbrat
09-24-2007, 04:44 PM
Damn! no no-prize for me then.

Alphaxman
09-24-2007, 04:55 PM
I just hope they dwell deep on Sorraya's feeling on killing. I know she didn't have much of a chose but it have to be hard on her. Like I said before, she has killed almost as many people as Laura.

CaptainCanada
09-24-2007, 05:01 PM
I just hope they dwell deep on Sorraya's feeling on killing. I know she didn't have much of a chose but it have to be hard on her. Like I said before, she has killed almost as many people as Laura.
Laura's killed hundreds of people according to various sources; Dust killed, what, a score or two?

Toboe
09-24-2007, 05:08 PM
Laura's killed hundreds of people according to various sources; Dust killed, what, a score or two?

I think she killed some people on Morrison's run, besides the couple of Purifiers she took.

However, she's not even remotely close to X-23's body count.

Alphaxman
09-24-2007, 05:17 PM
I think she killed some people on Morrison's run, besides the couple of Purifiers she took.

However, she's not even remotely close to X-23's body count.

I may have exaggerated a bit :D but she has killed a handful of people. They were all bad but it has to affect her taking lives. She wasn’t trained to kill like Laura was. I don’t want her to grow and be a cold blooded killer.

Toboe
09-24-2007, 05:27 PM
Dust has been shown to be truly sorry about being forced to kill and asking for Allah's forgiveness. I do wish her feeling and thoughts about the matter were explored more. Probably Riseman's Purifiers return will give us that.

Alphaxman
09-24-2007, 06:05 PM
Who do you think Sooraya is closes with? She did have a grow friendship with Laura but it hasn’t be shown in a while. I would like it if she became good friends with Pixie. Both could open her up a little in different ways sense they are total opposite personalities

Pach!
09-24-2007, 06:07 PM
Who do you think Sooraya is closes with? She did have a grow friendship with Laura but it hasn’t be shown in a while. I would like it if she became good friends with Pixie. Both could open her up a little in different ways sense they are total opposite personalities

Nori or Cess. Not Laura.

Toboe
09-24-2007, 06:43 PM
I'm not sure Sooraya's relationship with Noriko could be defined as closed friendship, just look at Nori's reaction when they got roomed together, and immediatly asking to room alone after Decimation.

She seems to be good friends with Cessily while fighting Belasco and must be close with her being on the same squad and all, but I don't think we've really seen it that much.

The mututal respect Sooraya and Laura have developed for each other over the series has brought them closer, I guess. Laura even saved her from being killed by Stryker, taking her place and all.

I like the growing relationship with Pixie and Nehzno as well.

talat77
09-24-2007, 07:29 PM
Nori is definately not a friend to Sooraya, for the reasons Toboe just mentioned...
Her relationship with Laura again, as mentioned is a respect situation wich could turn into a friendship though...
With Cess I never understood it very well... During the Hellions mini the little talk Cess and Sooraya had on the plane seemed like they were really talking to eachother for the first time (while they had been teammates for quite a while), but when C&C took over, they seemed pretty close, with Cess a bit protective over Sooraya...
I think the only real friend she had was Icarus...
And I hope Nezhno will become the next...
And Pixie?? I don't think so. If Sooraya wasn't such a 'beautiful person' she would hate her!!! Or at least be ut