Heroes -- Season Two

[NYRUNAWAY]

I still see people posting in the season 1 thread of Heroes. We are officially a week away from season 2, so let the predictions and speculation begin.

For example, what power or powers do you think that the so-called Bogeyman who was referenced in the season has?

Who will be the breakout hero this season?


What role will Sylar play during this season? Will be make it till the end or will he be a casulty of sweeps week to make way for this new villian

Predictions?

[hulahulk]

I still see people posting in the season 1 thread of Heroes. We are officially a week away from season 2, so let the predictions and speculation begin.

For example, what power or powers do you think that the so-called Bogeyman who was referenced in the season has?

Who will be the breakout hero this season?


What role will Sylar play during this season? Will be make it till the end or will he be a casulty of sweeps week to make way for this new villian

Predictions?

I've been wondering what the new villain will be like -- powers, etc. We'll still see Sylar of course. I hope Claire will be on alot -- she's purty!

I'm looking forward to Monday for sure.

[Mac Danny]

I still see people posting in the season 1 thread of Heroes. We are officially a week away from season 2, so let the predictions and speculation begin.

For example, what power or powers do you think that the so-called Bogeyman who was referenced in the season has?

Who will be the breakout hero this season?


What role will Sylar play during this season? Will be make it till the end or will he be a casulty of sweeps week to make way for this new villian

Predictions?

Syler will become the show's Vegeta. The enemy who is confronted with a greater Enemy to become a friend.

Peter = Goku
Syler = Vegeta

[Jmacq1]

For example, what power or powers do you think that the so-called Bogeyman who was referenced in the season has?

Not a clue, really. But at the very least he has some degree of telepathy/omniscience if he can tell when Molly Walker's looking for him. Or perhaps he's a "power reflector" that just turns anything directed against him back upon its' originator. That would seem in keeping with the theme of the "uber" metas...Sylar (Power Consumption), Peter (Power Duplication), and Boogeyman (Power Reflection).

Who will be the breakout hero this season?
Hiro and Mr. Bennet will continue to steal the show, I think. But Kirsten Bell's new character probably has promise.

What role will Sylar play during this season? Will be make it till the end or will he be a casulty of sweeps week to make way for this new villain

I think Sylar will survive the season. However I don't see him as the "Vegeta" of the series but rather as the "Gollum." I think he'll end up a begrudging lapdog/servant/henchman of the new "Boogeyman" or will inadvertantly end up fighting against him without being "redeemed" in any way.

[StoneGold]

Just remember people, don't spoil things before people actually get a chance to see them.

Sylar Green is made of people!!!! PEEEEOOpuhhhlllll!!!!

[Your Imaginary Pal]

Myspace season 2 preview link
http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=18301677

[Angel of Sorrow]

I have DirectTV and I decided to set it to record episodes so I don't forget.
Anwyays, I happened to take a quick glance at the info for the episode, which apparently is taken off now.

So yeh, you know the deal, look at your own risk, potential spoilers.

Supposedly, they're introducing twins of some sort [Both had unusual names, possibly Indian?] that have a very dangerous ability. We find out the fates of a few people and something about the new villian stalking the Heroes, whether that means they're introducing, I don't know. Unfortnately, since it was removed Im remembering this from memory.

[Blueferret]

I'm curious how they're going to work in the fact that this ancient Samurai Hero from the 15th century is white. That should make for big fun. Also, I'm still thinking that the parents/guardians of the heroes have some type of immortality or something.

[cappa donna]

Not a clue, really. But at the very least he has some degree of telepathy/omniscience if he can tell when Molly Walker's looking for him. Or perhaps he's a "power reflector" that just turns anything directed against him back upon its' originator. That would seem in keeping with the theme of the "uber" metas...Sylar (Power Consumption), Peter (Power Duplication), and Boogeyman (Power Reflection).


I like the sound of this. I was thinking TP as well, and he will come back with a more powerful, mentally enslaved Sylar by his side. BUt Power Reflector does seem like some shit they might do. Except that would mean a "hero" wouldn't be the one to take him down, but rather some flatscan human. Ewww!

[Legato]

I hope by next Season we see a more kick ass and less whiney Claire.

[Scott Evil]

I hope by next Season we see a more kick ass and less whiney Claire.

I was reading the EW article they had and it had something about Kristen Bell's character being tied into or directly affecting Claire's character. I'm looking forward to how and how much time these two ladies get to share the screen.

:D

*What? I'm a dude- I've still got a pulse :D

[Zero Hunter]

Between Kristen Bell, Dana Davis (as DL's niece), and Dania Rameriez (as one of the twins) there is defiently going to be a lot of eye candy on the show this season with the new cast members.

[hulahulk]

My opinion on Claire is that she's reacting perfectly normal for a teenage girl who finds out that she's adopted, her "Dad" was a rep of a super-secret agency, someone killed her cheerleader friend, and, oh, by the way, she's nearly indestructible. Give her some time, people! Her character is as normal as Peter Parker.

[Scott Evil]

Between Kristen Bell, Dana Davis (as DL's niece), and Dania Rameriez (as one of the twins) there is defiently going to be a lot of eye candy on the show this season with the new cast members.

Adding beautiful eye candy to go w/ fantastic stories of people mutant ability? Being chased and feared by a society that doesn't understand them? Its 90's X-Men! (I'm waiting for the red head that turns mental and kills everyone :D)

j/k- given the growing cast- I've got high hopes that there's progression w/ the show and its themes. I'm not too bothered w/ Takeshi (I think..) is actually white. I'm sure there's a good reason for it and the 'Boogeyman' teaser is good enough for me to watch the first 'arc' of the season.

[Cleric of Hell's Brigade]

First episode up.


My thoughts: Good, good, good!:)

[Conn Seanery]

Damn, that was fun. Soooooo glad it's back.

[hulahulk]

Yes! And I like the new characters so far. I'm wondering how Maya does what she does. Hiro looks like he's got his hands full.

Can't wait to see Nikki.

[Karl J Barnes]

I'm glad that it is back,but....I wasn't to impressed by this first episode. Hiro's predictament is quite funny and interesting, Nathan's depression was kind of flat and the Bennets hiding out in plain sight and dad's plan with the Doc is kind of cool. But I do miss not seeing Nikki or Peter. And no Sylar?!

I guess that the season opener was okay, just expecting more bang.

[Karl J Barnes]

Yes! And I like the new characters so far. I'm wondering how Maya does what she does. Hiro looks like he's got his hands full.

Can't wait to see Nikki.

I wonder,what her brother does? Does he suppress her powers? Or does his presence just keep her calm? From the blood coming from their(the victims) eyes; it looks like kind of like the ebola virus. Maybe she rots the body from the inside or causes massive hemorages?

[hulahulk]

I wonder,what her brother does? Does he suppress her powers? Or does his presence just keep her calm? From the blood coming from their(the victims) eyes; it looks like kind of like the ebola virus. Maybe she rots the body from the inside or causes massive hemorages?

Yeah, her bro' seems to be pretty important. And her power is definitely creepy.

[Chiasm]

Overall good episode.

David Anders is utterly excellent as Kensei and he even makes the scenes with Jar Jar Binks (Hiro) bearable.

I can't wait to see Kristin Bell's character and I'm crossing my fingers she eventually becomes a regular.

[superart17]

I was fairly pleased with this episode. Anyone else notice Nathan bump into Ando in the beginning?

[kmeyers]

I was fairly pleased with this episode. Anyone else notice Nathan bump into Ando in the beginning?

Yeah, but I didn't realize it was Nathan until we saw him later. Since he has that beard now. I actually thought it was Peter at first.

This was a good start to the season, I thought. Good stuff. I'm so happy it's finally back!

Lots of new questions, new villain(s), new Heroes...WOO!

so

Who is the parent killer? One of the original members of whatever super group that was founded...Hiro's dad knew who he/she was. But he was taken out in a pretty weak way(no powers shown). Is he the one giving the little girl(forgot her name) nightmares?

[BeastieRunner]

They killed Sulu!!! DAMN YOU, "THE COMPANY!!!"

[Rylon]

...and funny. I loved Parkman getting grilled by a little girl. "Did you cheat?" Classic. I'm kind of surprised that Nathan lost so much. You would think that his wife would be glad that he save a million people. No Niki, but it looked for a moment that Nathan had become like Niki. But no go. Frankly, I'm glad. I like Peter. I hope things work out in Cork.

Last thing: I want all the subtitle to be yellow. It's easier to see.

[Christopher Cross Is God]

I found the dialogue between Claire and "high school boy" to be irritating as hell, but otherwise I liked the season opener.

[kmeyers]

I found the dialogue between Claire and "high school boy" to be irritating as hell, but otherwise I liked the season opener.

I would have been so much happier with that guy, if his first name was Clark.

[Chiasm]

I found the dialogue between Claire and "high school boy" to be irritating as hell, but otherwise I liked the season opener.

That kid better have powers others than flying because otherwise he's just a younger version of Nathan.

[StoneGold]

That kid better have powers others than flying because otherwise he's just a younger version of Nathan.

But doesn't daddy's little girl always fall for a younger version of her father?


So, what are the Day One mysteries? And I'm not counting stuff like where is Sylar, because that hasn't technically been a mystery set up in the first episode. I'm just talking things going on that we've seen.

What was Peter doing in Ireland half naked in a cargo transport with a symbol on his neck?

What was up with the Nathan scarring deal?


Oddly, I don't really have any questions about Hiro. His storyline seems relatively straight forward right now.

Who killed Sulu?

Who do the eyes belong to?

What is Bennet, Parkman and Mohinder's plan?

Is flying boy a coincidence, are there still Linderman-like strings controlling everyone, or is this fate at work, putting Heroes together?

What's up with Maya and her brother? It looks like she has some kind of cerebral hemorrhaging power.

Is that a new artist for Maya? I couldn't tell just from the eyes who was doing it.

And the biggest question: Was Ms. Gerber a Steve Gerber reference?

[Rylon]

I would have been so much happier with that guy, if his first name was Clark.Really, I'm hoping that his first name is Adam.

[Christopher Cross Is God]

What was Peter doing in Ireland half naked in a cargo transport with a symbol on his neck?

Wasn't the symbol the same as what was drawn in red on Sulu & mama Petrelli's photos?

[kmeyers]

So, what are the Day One mysteries? And I'm not counting stuff like where is Sylar, because that hasn't technically been a mystery set up in the first episode. I'm just talking things going on that we've seen.

What was Peter doing in Ireland half naked in a cargo transport with a symbol on his neck?
He had a haircut too!

What was up with the Nathan scarring deal?
I'm assuming you're talking about that reflection in the bar mirror. I assumed that was what was bothering him...Charred Peter.

Oddly, I don't really have any questions about Hiro. His storyline seems relatively straight forward right now.
He's going to become the samurai who has been his HERO.

Who killed Sulu?
It's not Sylar...it's one of the originals. He survived the fall when Sulu didn't...

Who do the eyes belong to?
the guy who killed Sulu?

What is Bennet, Parkman and Mohinder's plan?
It better be good!

[StoneGold]

Wasn't the symbol the same as what was drawn in red on Sulu & mama Petrelli's photos?

It's the Symbol, the one that has appeared throughout the series, that as far as we know, started with Kensei's standard.

[StoneGold]

He had a haircut too!
Looks like he'd been pumping some iron in the off season, too.

I'm assuming you're talking about that reflection in the bar mirror. I assumed that was what was bothering him...Charred Peter.
I don't know. I didn't really get a good enough look, but I thought it had something to do with Nathan himself. I guess there really is another question: how did Nathan survive? Or at least appear to?

He's going to become the samurai who has been his HERO.
that would be the seemingly obvious path.

It's not Sylar...it's one of the originals. He survived the fall when Sulu didn't...It's not Sylar, because they wouldn't have bothered to hide him if he was. I don't think there's much of a point right now in hiding Sylar's ID. Besides, he looks pretty relaxed in the teasers for next week.


the guy who killed Sulu?
Could be. Depends on how many villains they are setting up for this season.

It better be good!

Hell's yeah. What's fun though, this is the closest we're probably going to get to an official "team." The irony being, Matt's the only Hero in the group. With a capital H. Because we still don't have an official designation for people with powers, do we?

[Shades0077]

Awesome premiere.

Nathan really looks like hell.

What's up with Parkman, Mohinder, and Molly? Did the two guys adopt her or something? Molly's teacher seemed to not think it was that odd that Molly was with them.

Haircut for Peter! No more emo!

[kmeyers]

Hell's yeah. What's fun though, this is the closest we're probably going to get to an official "team." The irony being, Matt's the only Hero in the group. With a capital H. Because we still don't have an official designation for people with powers, do we?

Well, not until Professor X...I mean Professor Suresh assembles his crew with HRG.

[StoneGold]

So pretending no one saw the promo for next week, who is still MIA? And realizing that some of these people have probably been written out of the show, but I feel like making a list anyways.


The entire Hawkins clan.
Sylar.
Hiro's sister, who could potentially be another Hero.
The Haitian.
Wireless (technically deceased, but now a ghost in the machine).
Audrey Hanson, the FBI agent.
Candice.
Sanjog Iyer, the dream boy.
Claude.
Janice Parkman and his possible, yet probably the other cop's, fetus.
Nathan's wife and kids.
Meredith Gordon, Claire's biomom.
Hal Sanders, Niki/Jessica's dad.

Am I missing anyone of any real importance?

[Kevin Vetter]

I doubt the eyes belong to the guy that killed sulu. He's probally just a lackey of the new big bad guy for this season who the eyes belong to. This is way premature but right now I'm heavily leaning towards the big bad being stryfe minus the being from the future part. I think the mentions of him so far show that he's a powerful psi and I think he's behind the heroes version of the legacy virus that mohinder was talking about at the beginning of the show.

[Davideaux]

I thought the Bennet family had died, especially the mom. I thought she got killed by the woman who made you see things.

I'm glad Claire didn't try the backflip in front of that crowd. I thought she'd do something stupid, especially after that scene with the Bunsen burner.

I'm thinking Claire's flying friend is an alien. I think they're hinting at it with his 'alien or robot' question.

It was an okay beginning. There are a lot of questions and I hope the writers do a great job this season.

[IamtheRock3]

sigh everyone hate kinkos


Like the cop with the girl. It a nice relationship. Wondering if he working with bennet to take down the coparation. Probally be why the wife left him, dont want to put up with that dangerous game

[Cleric of Hell's Brigade]

How did Peter throw lightning/electricity from his hands?



When did he gain that one? In the comic?

[xnef1025]

Peter must have gotten picked up and taken care of by some other Heroes. Maybe the Haitian considering the memory loss. If it was a group, maybe Peter picked up the lightning powers from one of his rescuers.

The big bad seems like a relative of Sauron's. "I seeeee youuuuu!"

[maczero]

What's up with Parkman, Mohinder, and Molly? Did the two guys adopt her or something? Molly's teacher seemed to not think it was that odd that Molly was with them.Well, it's 2007 and they're in New York so having 2 dads probably isn't that strange of a sight to her.

Anyway, I liked the premiere. I did have a few gripes though:

1) Claire constantly wanting to test her powers. Seriously, she's had them for months now why does she still do little stunts like putting her hand directly over the bunsen burner.

2) Flying kid better be a plant because I hate the coincidental meetings between the Heroes.

3) Noah not being able to tolerate his boss. I'm sure I couldn't either but I would think he would have more self control than I would.

[Christopher Cross Is God]

3) Noah not being able to tolerate his boss. I'm sure I couldn't either but I would think he would have more self control than I would.

I didn't see anything wrong with that. He probably wants to be able to contact Suresh and such, so he made sure the overbearing wannabe manager wasn't an obstacle anymore.

Plus, he had apparently been in a management position for quite a while, so I'm sure being irritated by that dorky manager had something to do with it as well.

[NDHorse]

How did Peter throw lightning/electricity from his hands?



When did he gain that one? In the comic?

It seemed to me like it might have been part of the Nuclear Man's powers which he absorbed last season. maybe he is just more able to control it now.

[mattbib]

The big bad seems like a relative of Sauron's. "I seeeee youuuuu!"Hah...that was my exact reaction! He definitely seems threatening, and I'm liking that Parkman's involved early on in this one.
1) Claire constantly wanting to test her powers. Seriously, she's had them for months now why does she still do little stunts like putting her hand directly over the bunsen burner.
Because it's who she is. She says it herself...why should she have to hide it? We know why she needs to, but still...

[maczero]

I didn't see anything wrong with that. He probably wants to be able to contact Suresh and such, so he made sure the overbearing wannabe manager wasn't an obstacle anymore.

Plus, he had apparently been in a management position for quite a while, so I'm sure being irritated by that dorky manager had something to do with it as well.That could work but his actions contradict his speech with Claire about not sticking out. Granted his boss doesn't have anything to go on except that Noah is an employee not to be fucked with but the intimidation makes him "stick out".

Also, did Noah give Claire a Nissan Rogue? Normally I don't mind product placement but I don't think I've ever seen a car pimped so hard in one hour. The commercials were literally back to back.

[xnef1025]

That could work but his actions contradict his speech with Claire about not sticking out. Granted his boss doesn't have anything to go on except that Noah is an employee not to be fucked with but the intimidation makes him "stick out".

Also, did Noah give Claire a Nissan Rogue? Normally I don't mind product placement but I don't think I've ever seen a car pimped so hard in one hour. The commercials were literally back to back.
That was the point though. Claire is his daughter in every way that matters and neither of them can just "blend in" and "be normal" for long.

As for the Nissan pimping. The Versa got the same treatment last year when Hiro had to have a Versa from the rental angency. Guess the opening ad on the next web comic will change to the Rogue.

[Phil Clark]

Everyone complains about the coincidental meetings of the heroes, and they all need to get off it. Real life is mostly coincidental meetings. Coincidents happen. Get over it.

If anything, this is what makes the show so good. They don't feel the need to justify why all these characters are meeting up. People with similar likes (or abilities) tend to run into each other. It happens.

I am really curious about Nathans's reflected image in the bar. Was he horribly scarred and somehow has the ability to hide that fact, or is he psychologically scarred by the possible death of his brother, and he saw the manifestation of that? It will be interesting to find out.

[Shostie]

My wife and I were discussing which looks worse:

1) Nathan Petrelli's Captain Beard-o look

or

2) Admiral Adama's pornstache from the beginning of season 3 of BSG.

I think we ended up on Petrelli looking worse.

[Scott Evil]

Good episode!

Kinda slow to start, but I guess it was to set up the status quo. It was during the last 15 minutes ("With LESS Nissan advertising!" :D) that it really picked up the pace. I thought they'd kill Hiro's dad 'til next week. Nope. Maya kills a truck full of people, the awesome 'Charred' Nathan mirror image, Peter shooting 'bolts from his hands - too much.

LOVE Kensei already. I wanted more of him

I'm actually interested w/ Suresh & Noah's plan. Was part of their plan that 'Virus' thing? Was that fabricated so that they can get someone from the 'Company' to come out? Good opener- very new viewer friendly and obviously sets up the series for this season.

[SPAfreak]

Of all the people that we've seen so far in the series I think that the Haitian is the most logical person for the eyes to belong to. He's the one with all the creepy mind powers. But then the question would be why is he doing this. I think we can safely assume it's a new person.

I'm willing to bet that I'm the only person who was excited to see Stephen Tobolowski? Am I right? I wonder if his Midas Touch works on people.

[Scott Evil]

I'm willing to bet that I'm the only person who was excited to see Stephen Tobolowski? Am I right? I wonder if his Midas Touch works on people.

That's who it was! Yes, I'm glad to see him on my TV too. I think its a more interesting take on Midas too- it looks like he can consciously control his golden touch.

Good looking out - its good to know how the Company makes ends meet.

[Justin D.]

Well, it's 2007 and they're in New York so having 2 dads probably isn't that strange of a sight to her.

Anyway, I liked the premiere. I did have a few gripes though:

1) Claire constantly wanting to test her powers. Seriously, she's had them for months now why does she still do little stunts like putting her hand directly over the bunsen burner.

I don't think she's testing them, but it's more like she wants to use the power she has. They're going to need to give her some additional power soon because her power is only a defensive one. The fact that she's constantly breaking something as a way to display her power is getting old. Having her run into the fire last season to stop the exploding man was the best use of her power so far.

2) Flying kid better be a plant because I hate the coincidental meetings between the Heroes.

Yeah, I'm not thrilled with that either. I don't have a problem with it being someone else at the school, but it to be the only person at the school she's talked to for more than two minutes is a bit much.

3) Noah not being able to tolerate his boss. I'm sure I couldn't either but I would think he would have more self control than I would.

I loved that part. Not just to see the too forceful Dwight Jr. get taken down, but that it seemed completely in character for Bennet to react that way. Plus, it set up the fun, awkward dynamic of the dinner with the daughter and father having secret lives again. The mother is just annoying though.

I'm actually interested w/ Suresh & Noah's plan. Was part of their plan that 'Virus' thing? Was that fabricated so that they can get someone from the 'Company' to come out? Good opener- very new viewer friendly and obviously sets up the series for this season.

It never dawned on me until now that the virus was faked just to get Suresh in the Company again. Smart move.

Oh, and I'm apparently the only one here so far who thinks the killer is Peter who's trained to become some sort of assassin.

[Christopher Cross Is God]

I'm willing to bet that I'm the only person who was excited to see Stephen Tobolowski? Am I right? I wonder if his Midas Touch works on people.

What I'm wondering is not only on whether his powers can work on living things, but also if they solely focus on changing things to gold or if they go to a fruther spectrum.

[Shostie]

Oh, and I'm apparently the only one here so far who thinks the killer is Peter who's trained to become some sort of assassin.

It's possible, but wasn't he handcuffed inside a cargo container in Ireland at the time?

[Justin D.]

It's possible, but wasn't he handcuffed inside a cargo container in Ireland at the time?


Time travel powers, my friend, time travel powers.

[Your Imaginary Pal]

That could work but his actions contradict his speech with Claire about not sticking out. Granted his boss doesn't have anything to go on except that Noah is an employee not to be fucked with but the intimidation makes him "stick out".

Also, did Noah give Claire a Nissan Rogue? Normally I don't mind product placement but I don't think I've ever seen a car pimped so hard in one hour. The commercials were literally back to back.

I don't know the Nissan Versa got a whole lotta love season 1.

[Shostie]

Time travel powers, my friend, time travel powers.

True, he did come within close contact of Hiro.

[StoneGold]

I know they've sort of dropped some hints in the past that Nature creates a sort of reverse Highlander effect, where Heroes are drawn together, although more likely to screw than to cut off each other's noggins.

[Scott Evil]

It's possible, but wasn't he handcuffed inside a cargo container in Ireland at the time?

Good line of thought. I'm gonna go with 'clone' as opposed to 'time displaced' Peter. I'm loving Peter's new look however. I'm wondering what they're going to do w/ 'Who Am I?' - are there any good comic book arcs that reference that? Maybe a Jason Bourne?

[StoneGold]

Good line of thought. I'm gonna go with 'clone' as opposed to 'time displaced' Peter. I'm loving Peter's new look however. I'm wondering what they're going to do w/ 'Who Am I?' - are there any good comic book arcs that reference that? Maybe a Jason Bourne?

XIII.


Stupid Americans. Or something like that.

[SPAfreak]

Oh, and I'm apparently the only one here so far who thinks the killer is Peter who's trained to become some sort of assassin.

The assassin had Peter's build and it is who I thought it was at first. The only reason that I don't think that it's him is because both Sulu and his mom thought that it was one of the original members. I can't help but think his mom would know if it was Peter.

[Christopher Cross Is God]

The assassin had Peter's build and it is who I thought it was at first. The only reason that I don't think that it's him is because both Sulu and his mom thought that it was one of the original members. I can't help but think his mom would know if it was Peter.

Although it's possible, I don't think Peter's the assassin.

But, on the subject of his mom, doesn't she think Peter's dead? That could be why, if he is the assassin, she doesn't know it's him yet.

[kmeyers]

The assassin had Peter's build and it is who I thought it was at first. The only reason that I don't think that it's him is because both Sulu and his mom thought that it was one of the original members. I can't help but think his mom would know if it was Peter.

But Sulu recognized the assassin. He said, "Of all of us, I never thought it would be you."

The way he spoke to him made it seem like he had known the assassin for a long time, like he was one of the original members(of the older/parents group).

[Shostie]

But Sulu recognized the assassin. He said, "Of all of us, I never thought it would be you."

The way he spoke to him made it seem like he had known the assassin for a long time, like he was one of the original members(of the older/parents group).

I agree that it's probably not Peter, but keep in mind that Sulu would be able to recognize Peter since he knows Angela Petrelli pretty well it seems.

[StoneGold]

But Sulu recognized the assassin. He said, "Of all of us, I never thought it would be you."

The way he spoke to him made it seem like he had known the assassin for a long time, like he was one of the original members(of the older/parents group).

Yeah, that could mean a lot of things. And given Sulu's apparent placement with the Company, it could literally end up being just about anyone.

[SPAfreak]

Do we really need to discuss whether it's Peter or not? Like I said, the build looks similar but I think that that will be the only connection.

Unless they do something wacky like say that his father was never really dead. Do the comics talk about his death?

[Justin D.]

But Sulu recognized the assassin. He said, "Of all of us, I never thought it would be you."

The way he spoke to him made it seem like he had known the assassin for a long time, like he was one of the original members(of the older/parents group).

Actually, Hiro's dad only says, "I never thought it would be you." A small difference, but could be a big one.

[moebius]

I'm willing to bet that I'm the only person who was excited to see Stephen Tobolowski? Am I right? I wonder if his Midas Touch works on people.

"Ned? Ned Ryerson?"

[Scott Evil]

Unless they do something wacky like say that his father was never really dead. Do the comics talk about his death?

Not really. It goes over Linderman and Papa Patrelli's time in Vietnam and how they got together in the first place (at least the Patrellis and Linderman).

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So, is it pretty unanimous that Hiro will turn out to be "Kensei", by doing the heroic deeds himself? Or will the gaijin turn the corner and earn the hilt of the swordsman? What do you think Kensei's powers are? (did they ever mention his European name btw?)

[SPAfreak]

"Ned? Ned Ryerson?"

"Hello. My name is Warner Brandis. My voice is my passport. Verify me."

The man was seduced by President Roslin AND insulted by Ghandi in the same movie. He's easily one of my favorite character actors and I hope that he sticks around for awhile.

[moebius]

Thoughts:

0a. I'm kind of disappointed that everyone came back. It's a good example of a show being too popular for its own good. No one wanted to make changes (like killing Parkman).

0b. I'm kind of disappointed that there was no real shock this opener comparable with learning that Nathan being the flyer. Like we didn't know Peter would live?

1. Lots of mysteries about the Kensai story. Is Hiro Kensai? The Englishman? Will he find his father, and train him to be Kensai? Will he create a Grandfather Paradox with the Swordsmith's Daughter? And what about the timeline change Hiro created with Otsu?

2. Nathan looks really small and thin when he's not in a suit. The figure he saw in the mirror was Peter covered in burn tissue.

3. The Big Bad reminds me of the Shadow King, just as he did last season.

4. The Legacy Virus...I think it's less of a problem than Mohinder makes it out to be, but it still obviously affects Heroes.

5. If found "Clark" (I thought of him as "Clark" the first time I saw him, which I think might have been intentional) a little creepy. Maybe Tim Kring watched Superman Returns?

6. HRG still kicks ass. Parkman is still a schlub (raising Molly in a "non-traditional household" with Mohinder. Hee!). Hiro is less annoying. Maya is hot. I am not looking forward to seeing the Vegas crew again.

7. The brother/sister remind me of a "reverse Fenris". If they aren't in close contact, her powers get very active.

8. If you notice when Ando looked over the ledge, there was only one body on the ground.

[SPAfreak]

Actually, Hiro's dad only says, "I never thought it would be you." A small difference, but could be a big one.

The absolute ultimate in irony would be making it a future/alternate Ando. I think that the timing works out as Ando didn't make it back to the roof with the sword until AFTER the scuffle started.

But I'm just throwing ideas out there and hoping one sticks.

[moebius]

If Peter was the Assassin, he wouldn't have thrown Sulu off the ledge. He would have fried him at range with Ted's powers, or walked up to him invisibly and gutted him.

I don't think it's anyone we've seen before.

[kmeyers]

Actually, Hiro's dad only says, "I never thought it would be you." A small difference, but could be a big one.

Ah, I guess the way he said it made me think it was someone he'd known for a long time, one of his peers.

[StoneGold]

Ah, I guess the way he said it made me think it was someone he'd known for a long time, one of his peers.

KAAAAHHHHNNNN!!!!!


Although I'll admit, while watching it, for a second I thought it might be Shatner. But only if Shatner lost... oh, let's say a Nimoy or so.

[Bakasama]

Didn't Sulu say it's one of the surviving Nine out of the 12 original Heroes?

[StoneGold]

Didn't Sulu say it's one of the surviving Nine out of the 12 original Heroes?

He didn't really have time as he was falling off the building. He seemed to suggest that was who sent him the death threat, but given that he didn't expect his assassin, it could be someone completely different. Come to think of it, from the way he was acting earlier, he probably would have expected one of the ni...


Nine. Out of 12 potential murder suspects/victims. In a story Jeph Loeb has a hand in. And Tim Sale. This is starting to sound awfully familiar...

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[Sean Whitmore]

I think Peter's new zappy powers might have come from one of the Irishmen in the cargo hold with him. The interviews last year kept mentioning how many international Heroes we'd be seeing this season.

I've got to assume Bennett had some substantial savings, because if you can support a family of four in a house that nice working at Kinko's, I'm quitting my job TODAY.

Shows with teenagers always make me wonder whether my high school experience was atypical or not. How did I get through 4 years without running into wandering packs of evil cheerleaders and football bullies and what-have-you?


SEAN

[Pro]

At first i thought the Company might be responsible for Peter's current condition.

But then .. the haitian escaped the company and i think he might be responsible for peter's memoryloss. Also the man who pushed Hiro's father off the roof reminded me of the invisible man. Both have a score to settle with the company and both know enough of the company to set this up.
What if the invisible man, the haitian and a few others have build an underground railroad for metahumans they try to keep away from the company? They find Peter, wipe his brain so he loses his powers, send him to Ireland to be picked up by someone who will help him make a new life. S
Something goes wrong and the irish crooks instead find Peter.

[Toonimator]

Ah, I guess the way he said it made me think it was someone he'd known for a long time, one of his peers.
...or his daughter.

:)

Hey, he never thought Hiro would amount to anything... maybe his assumptions about his daughter were wrong, too? Even after Hiro making things right between them last season, with her primed to take over the business, she ends up a tool of the Company with an ability to be exploited. A cop-out, perhaps, but a possibility.

I'm just wondering if Mr. Nakamura will get up on his own, or if someone will resurrect him. He is a 'patient man' so the immortal guesses--putting him around Kensei's time perhaps--could still play out... and healing could be part of his Immortal Ability Package. Maybe he's the Swordsmith ;)

[Pro]

I'm just wondering if Mr. Nakamura will get up on his own, or if someone will resurrect him. He is a 'patient man' so the immortal guesses--putting him around Kensei's time perhaps--could still play out... and healing could be part of his Immortal Ability Package. Maybe he's the Swordsmith

I doubt Nakamura will get up. Why would he say he'd die within 24 hours if he was immortal? I get the feeling this season will be a changing of the guard storyline with a new generation replacing the old. Nakamura, ma Petrelli, Linderman all dead. And more to die soon i think. If i'm right about the invisible man and his underground movement i can see them being responsible for the assassinations. I can imagine a few characters from last season joining up with the underground, the illusionist, the cyberpath and Sylar spring to mind.

[maczero]

Anyone get the impression that the writers are setting up "Nathan as the assassin" red herring storyline? He was in close proximity when his Mom and Hiro's dad received their death threats. Also, the fact that only one body hit the ground when they both went over the edge points to someone who can fly (yeah, I know it could also be someone who teleports or phases).

Again, I don't believe Nathan killed Sulu but I have a feeling he's being set-up as the number one suspect. Personally, I don't trust the new flying kid.

[Pro]

Anyone get the impression that the writers are setting up "Nathan as the assassin" red herring storyline? He was in close proximity when his Mom and Hiro's dad received their death threats. Also, the fact that only one body hit the ground when they both went over the edge points to someone who can fly (yeah, I know it could also be someone who teleports or phases).

Again, I don't believe Nathan killed Sulu but I have a feeling he's being set-up as the number one suspect. Personally, I don't trust the new flying kid.

Possible .. although Claire is quite a long distance from New York. I suppose he could have superspeed like Nathan but it seemed more floating than superspeedy flight. But you might be right about nathan being set up. He does have a motive and the means to pull off that assassination. But i still get the feeling the assassin is someone Nakamura knew for quite a while:"I never expected it to be you".

[Black Atom]

I think Peter's new zappy powers might have come from one of the Irishmen in the cargo hold with him. The interviews last year kept mentioning how many international Heroes we'd be seeing this season.

I've got to assume Bennett had some substantial savings, because if you can support a family of four in a house that nice working at Kinko's, I'm quitting my job TODAY.

Especially in Southern California. He can also afford to give Claire a brand new NISSAN ROGUE and anyone watching Heroes last night knows exactly how much those cost.


Shows with teenagers always make me wonder whether my high school experience was atypical or not. How did I get through 4 years without running into wandering packs of evil cheerleaders and football bullies and what-have-you?

SEAN

I wonder the same thing. The cheerleaders at my HS were rather nice, actually.

Anywho, I'm not sure I'm prepared to wait until the end of this season for the answers to some of these mysteries. I fear that Heroes will become to entwined in unraveling secrets and surprise twists instead of actual story-telling and character development, which was already happening at the end of season 2.

[Toonimator]

Possible .. although Claire is quite a long distance from New York. I suppose he could have superspeed like Nathan but it seemed more floating than superspeedy flight.
Just because one guy flies one way, and another flies a different way (in only one appearance), doesn't mean they can't both fly BOTH ways. Nathan could probably float around if he wanted to (and did, if Pete's dream of the accident was how it really happened), while the kid might've thought "Hmm, breaking the sound barrier outside my stalkee's house may not be a smart thing."

Oh, and Nathan could easily fit the bill for Nakamura's comment, since Nakamura broke with the Company by supporting Hiro's goal to prevent the bomb... and since Nathan ALSO decided to prevent it, Nakamura would probably have thought he'd never side with the Company's agenda.

Of course, there's not really any indication it's even the Company!

[Jamal]

Didn't Sulu say it's one of the surviving Nine out of the 12 original Heroes?

Your correct, he said it to Mama Petrelli when they were talking.
I wonder with Hiro changing the past and possibily becoming the Kensai of legend, is it possible that the englishman is the leader of "The Comapany" and is the one targeting the last nine?

[StoneGold]

I doubt Nakamura will get up. Why would he say he'd die within 24 hours if he was immortal?

Because people are still running with the immortal theory from when they thought he was Kensei.

[moebius]

Because people are still running with the immortal theory from when they thought he was Kensei.

You don't think we'll see GT again in some fashion? As someone above said, he might be the Swordsmith, leading to creepy incestuous fun between Hero and the daughter.

[StoneGold]

You don't think we'll see GT again in some fashion? As someone above said, he might be the Swordsmith, leading to creepy incestuous fun between Hero and the daughter.

Sure, but we saw Shaft after he died, too. And Simone. And... actually, I think that might be it. Oh, wait, Mohinder's dad.

[Nikita]

They killed Sulu!!! DAMN YOU, "THE COMPANY!!!"


That part reeeally sucked. I was hoping his character would be kept on for awhile.

I liked the episode a lot. I like the "tension" Claire and her father now have to deal with in their new home, job and school. It's an interesting dynamic. I really am hoping Claire will get a chance to deck the head cheerleader.

I also enjoyed the whole "I'm Nathan, and my brother is dead so I decided to grow a really long beard and look like a depressed bum" look. LOL. Kind of funny.

I knew Peter was alive. No surprise to me at all that he was "found" by "accident" at the end of the show. :rolleyes:

I'm looking forward to seeing what happens with Hiro in the past.

I have the feeling we'll be seeing Sylar again too. I am curious to know who Maggie is "seeing" in her nightmares.

[Black Atom]

He could be mortal, yet extremely long-lived ("I'm a patient man"). Either wa, I don't think we've seen the last of him. Seems like he just went out too easily.

[BeastieRunner]

I am thinking the "virus" was made up by Mohinder and crew to get him into the company. That's just my hunch.

[Christopher Cross Is God]

I am thinking the "virus" was made up by Mohinder and crew to get him into the company. That's just my hunch.

I hope so.....I wouldn't really care for a virus storyline. It would remind me of the droll virus storylines in the X-titles back during the 90's.

[Pro]

I wonder with Hiro changing the past and possibily becoming the Kensai of legend, is it possible that the englishman is the leader of "The Comapany" and is the one targeting the last nine?

Interesting theory, i think he's meant to show up in the present at some point but how or why i'm not sure. Could be interesting.

[Super Sonic]

Great episode, loved it all apart from those horrible "Irish" accents! ;)

[moebius]

Interesting theory, i think he's meant to show up in the present at some point but how or why i'm not sure. Could be interesting.

You could easily reverse roles and send him "back to the future" with Hiro.

I like how no one has freaked out yet about the man with strange clothes, no burning Hiro at the stake. They just pass it off as some weird style.

[xnef1025]

New comic is up. It's all about the new kid and explains "alien or robot".

[BoosterBronze]

New comic is up. It's all about the new kid and explains "alien or robot".

I hated that kid. What a judgemental ass. I hope Claire beats him to death, then cuts his bangs.

[Sean Whitmore]

I hated that kid. What a judgemental ass.

I didn't like him either. What horrible dialog.


SEAN

[Lord Darkwolf]

I'm calling it now . West will get the father/Boyfriend talk .... from both dads ... with Nathan the catching him and dragging him down to Noah's level so they can both go at it . ( Despite his protest this ep he does care for Claire and he knows it )

[Blueferret]

Everyone complains about the coincidental meetings of the heroes, and they all need to get off it. Real life is mostly coincidental meetings. Coincidents happen. Get over it.

If anything, this is what makes the show so good. They don't feel the need to justify why all these characters are meeting up. People with similar likes (or abilities) tend to run into each other. It happens.

I am really curious about Nathans's reflected image in the bar. Was he horribly scarred and somehow has the ability to hide that fact, or is he psychologically scarred by the possible death of his brother, and he saw the manifestation of that? It will be interesting to find out.

I'm pretty sure that was Peter looking back at Nathan in the mirror and when he looked back at it, his own refelection was staring back at him. Notice the long hair Peter used to have.

Also, did anyone else get a Jack Sparrow vibe out of Kensai when they were watching this? I thought Anders was great. He has a talent for being a charming ass.

[Zucchini]

I'm pretty sure that was Peter looking back at Nathan in the mirror and when he looked back at it, his own refelection was staring back at him. Notice the long hair Peter used to have.

Also, did anyone else get a Jack Sparrow vibe out of Kensai when they were watching this? I thought Anders was great. He has a talent for being a charming ass.

I am starting to get the vibe that Mr Muggles the dog has more of a part in everything then we know. Im thinking Mr. Muggles is a shapeshifting "older generation hero", keeping an eye on HRG and Hayden! If you watch closely, I really think they might be setting something up!

[Tyr]

Yes! And I like the new characters so far. I'm wondering how Maya does what she does. Hiro looks like he's got his hands full.

Can't wait to see Nikki.

Well here's my theory on Maya. You know how Spider-Woman releases pheromones when she’s nervous or scared? (Like she needs pheromones for guys to go gaga over her.)

Same thing applies to Maya only she secrets some kind of toxin or bioelectrical field, for lack of a smarter sounding technical term, which triggers when she becomes terrified enough. Her brother is some kind of calming presence that keeps her from doing so on a regular basis, like a psychological security blanket.

As for Hiro, love the fact that he’s in ancient Japan, but it looks like were heading for a predictable plot. That is he becomes his own hero.

I love the fact that Parkman isn’t dead. He and Hero are my two favorite characters in the series, and he seems to be a more driven character now that he has something to protect.

[hulahulk]

Well here's my theory on Maya. You know how Spider-Woman releases pheromones when she’s nervous or scared? (Like she needs pheromones for guys to go gaga over her.)

Same thing applies to Maya only she secrets some kind of toxin or bioelectrical field, for lack of a smarter sounding technical term, which triggers when she becomes terrified enough. Her brother is some kind of calming presence that keeps her from doing so on a regular basis, like a psychological security blanket.

As for Hiro, love the fact that he’s in ancient Japan, but it looks like were heading for a predictable plot. That is he becomes his own hero.

I love the fact that Parkman isn’t dead. He and Hero are my two favorite characters in the series, and he seems to be a more driven character now that he has something to protect.

Another possibility for her brother is that, instead of a calming effect, perhaps he has an actual power that negates hers. They are on the run, wanted for murder. Anything could be plausible at this point, although they do not seem like the type to be actual murderers.

I'll bet Hiro hooks up with the hottie Japanese chick.

Parkman's character has a chance to step up big time this season, especially with all he has gone through.

[Scott Evil]

I am thinking the "virus" was made up by Mohinder and crew to get him into the company. That's just my hunch.

That was my theory too. I was watching the ep. again last night and when Mohinder was talking to Noah he says "..They took the bait..". Bait to me implies that they were doing something relatively out of character to get the Company's attention.


I'm also looking forward to Parkman's character. The 'divorce' did seem kind of convenient- especially since wasn't he and his wife expecting? What happens there? I feel bad 'cause that part (keeping the diamonds, hiding secrets from wife..) were parts that I actually sympathised w/ Parkman. I live in LA myself and I know how hard it is to impress the ladies and.. ok, I've said enough :D

[StoneGold]

That was my theory too. I was watching the ep. again last night and when Mohinder was talking to Noah he says "..They took the bait..". Bait to me implies that they were doing something relatively out of character to get the Company's attention.


I'm also looking forward to Parkman's character. The 'divorce' did seem kind of convenient- especially since wasn't he and his wife expecting? What happens there? I feel bad 'cause that part (keeping the diamonds, hiding secrets from wife..) were parts that I actually sympathised w/ Parkman. I live in LA myself and I know how hard it is to impress the ladies and.. ok, I've said enough :D

The virus is real. It's just Mohinder already made the cure. Hell, Mohinder was the cure.


As for Parkman's kid, it probably wasn't his. The missus was banging other cops behind his back.

[Farealmer]

I wonder if we will se a speedster in this season? The Sulu assassin perhaps?

[Scott Evil]

The virus is real. It's just Mohinder already made the cure. Hell, Mohinder was the cure.

Good point about that. So is Mohinder now considered a 'Hero'? Curing blood? Very Angel... (Warren, not Angelus...{from 'Buffy', not the big boobied Darkness enemy}) Now to think of it, I'm anxiously awaiting the episode where the Company's 'Midas' turns Mohinder into a golden statue. ("Best... Death... EVER!")

As for Parkman's kid, it probably wasn't his. The missus was banging other cops behind his back.

Hence my affinity for Parkman! Women from LA are a bunch of cheatin' wenches!*


*No offense to any wimmens from LA :D

[StoneGold]

Good point about that. So is Mohinder now considered a 'Hero'? Curing blood? Very Angel... (Warren, not Angelus...{from 'Buffy', not the big boobied Darkness enemy}) Now to think of it, I'm anxiously awaiting the episode where the Company's 'Midas' turns Mohinder into a golden statue. ("Best... Death... EVER!")




Less that, more he was born so he would have the specific antibodies to counteract the virus. It's only good for curing that one thing.

[Toonimator]

I am starting to get the vibe that Mr Muggles the dog has more of a part in everything then we know. Im thinking Mr. Muggles is a shapeshifting "older generation hero", keeping an eye on HRG and Hayden! If you watch closely, I really think they might be setting something up!
Ha! That'd be pretty damn funny. Immense potential for starting 'shark-jumping' debates, but it might be crazy enough to work. We've yet to see a proper shapeshifter, after all.

If Muggles did turn out to be a power, that person must be REALLY dedicated to their job. Muggles & Mrs. Bennett were acting like Cameron Diaz' neighbor & her dog in "There's Something About Mary". Yeesh.

I can imagine a scenario where Claire & her new creepy flying-stalker pal are about to run off to do something dangerous and/or stupid and her folks are out so Muggles starts barking and when that doesn't faze 'em... talking. "Uh, Claire, did you dog just talk?!"

[Fish Sauce]

According to Wikipedia:

"Maya Herrera (Dania Ramírez), a Honduran who is on the run from the police. Under stress, she can create a virus which is immediately fatal to those around her. Her brother, Alejandro, is the antidote to the virus."

Not 100% reliable but could be right.

[hulahulk]

According to Wikipedia:

"Maya Herrera (Dania Ramírez), a Honduran who is on the run from the police. Under stress, she can create a virus which is immediately fatal to those around her. Her brother, Alejandro, is the antidote to the virus."

Not 100% reliable but could be right.

My only issue (very minor) with Wikipedia is how did that person who posted the info know. Good explanation, but file it with the others.

[mattx110]

You could easily reverse roles and send him "back to the future" with Hiro.

I like how no one has freaked out yet about the man with strange clothes, no burning Hiro at the stake. They just pass it off as some weird style.

go to japan lately? they are the cutting edge of fashion if you like birght pink spiky hair and shiny trinkets... maybe hiro is the cause of that (and not a post-WW2 fascination with western culture as we originally thought).

and the bennett i know would have beat the hell out of that kid, or at least yelled at him and grabbed him by the neck for almost hitting his daughter with a car. not just stand there and look pretty.

and with all the tim sale art, i couldn't help but associate the always in a suit pasdar/nathan with harvey dent. now i'm never going to get the idea out of my head. i'm glad they gave him work on the wanted poster too. it would be rude to just go "sorry, we killed the artist, go find a new job".

and i want some linderman/claude/nakamura/young bennett flashbacks... if you're gonna be killing them off it's only fair.

and the irish accents weren't bad, but the "for the love of pete" put it over the edge of "isn't this what irish people sound like? i mean, the lead thug did look a bit like sean bean.

[Zucchini]

Ha! That'd be pretty damn funny. Immense potential for starting 'shark-jumping' debates, but it might be crazy enough to work. We've yet to see a proper shapeshifter, after all.

If Muggles did turn out to be a power, that person must be REALLY dedicated to their job. Muggles & Mrs. Bennett were acting like Cameron Diaz' neighbor & her dog in "There's Something About Mary". Yeesh.

I can imagine a scenario where Claire & her new creepy flying-stalker pal are about to run off to do something dangerous and/or stupid and her folks are out so Muggles starts barking and when that doesn't faze 'em... talking. "Uh, Claire, did you dog just talk?!"

Tottally!

You know theyve set up things in the first season that they are still riffing on now, and they make a point to feature the dog very prominantly at times...

When they switch around all the roles, and the bad guys become good and the good guys go bad, Mr. Muggles will be at the center of it all.

HGH will go from loving father back to being a creep, Sylar will have to help stop a brain washed "bad" Peter, and Mr. Muggles killed Sulu... BAD dog!

[the_coldest_sun]

Anyone check out the new video clips to Episode 2? I won't say much for those who hate spoilers (as do I but I couldn't help myself), but ... Isaac's legacy!

[Fish Sauce]

My only issue (very minor) with Wikipedia is how did that person who posted the info know. Good explanation, but file it with the others.

Oh, I agree completely. Does seem like a decent explanation but there's no way to tell if it's right or not.

[theonlyronster]

and the irish accents weren't bad, but the "for the love of pete" put it over the edge of "isn't this what irish people sound like? i mean, the lead thug did look a bit like sean bean.

The Irish accents were some of the worst I've ever heard! I mean, I understand the need to budget etc, but is it really that hard to find an American who can do an accent from outside their own country convincingly?

It was as bad as Tommy Lee Jones in Blown Away, or Pitt in The Devils Own. Irish people don't sound like that, and Cork people definitely don't sound like that!

To be fair, if it was a real Cork accent I doubt 95% of Americans would have a clue what they were saying - I know most of Ireland struggles with it too!

However, going the other way - there are endless examples of non-Americans who can do completely convincing American accents.

My fave example is Tommy Carcetti from The Wire - the guy has an incredibly thick Dublin accent in real life.

[Super Sonic]

To be fair, if it was a real Cork accent I doubt 95% of Americans would have a clue what they were saying - I know most of Ireland struggles with it too!


Brilliance.

[Nikita]

He could be mortal, yet extremely long-lived ("I'm a patient man"). Either wa, I don't think we've seen the last of him. Seems like he just went out too easily.


Well, looks like Sylar will be back afterall. That's good because I liked his character. He's in promos with some chick who looks like a possible new cast member.


I find it interesting that Heroes is doing a bit of a twist on adding an illegal alien story to the mix with one of them having "abilities". I like that story line a lot. A brother trying to protect his sister but also trying to protect others from her accidentally killing them. Looks like she doesn't have much control over this ability yet. I have the feeling she might fall into the wrong hands and be used as a weapon.


I do like that Heroes is such an eclectic show racially. When I first started watching, I didn't think so, but now over time, it truly is more racially diverse then many shows on TV right now. I am kind of bummed they killed DL and Simone off since they seemed to be the only main black characters on the show besides the Haitian. (and Micah of course) But they didn't seem to know what to do with DL's character. I'm hoping they'll add new black characters in the future again.

Of course, I'm not sure if DL truly died or not. It seemed like he did, but maybe he'll show up again too like Sylar.

[Tazirai]

Well, looks like Sylar will be back afterall. That's good because I liked his character. He's in promos with some chick who looks like a possible new cast member.


I find it interesting that Heroes is doing a bit of a twist on adding an illegal alien story to the mix with one of them having "abilities". I like that story line a lot. A brother trying to protect his sister but also trying to protect others from her accidentally killing them. Looks like she doesn't have much control over this ability yet. I have the feeling she might fall into the wrong hands and be used as a weapon.


I do like that Heroes is such an eclectic show racially. When I first started watching, I didn't think so, but now over time, it truly is more racially diverse then many shows on TV right now. I am kind of bummed they killed DL and Simone off since they seemed to be the only main black characters on the show besides the Haitian. (and Micah of course) But they didn't seem to know what to do with DL's character. I'm hoping they'll add new black characters in the future again.

Of course, I'm not sure if DL truly died or not. It seemed like he did, but maybe he'll show up again too like Sylar.


DL may not be gone yet. he had a cool power, and used a few good tricks with it. Hopefully he's not gone, but this is NBC afterall. So he may come back or just appear in flash backs.

[Zero Hunter]

Well, looks like Sylar will be back afterall. That's good because I liked his character. He's in promos with some chick who looks like a possible new cast member.


I find it interesting that Heroes is doing a bit of a twist on adding an illegal alien story to the mix with one of them having "abilities". I like that story line a lot. A brother trying to protect his sister but also trying to protect others from her accidentally killing them. Looks like she doesn't have much control over this ability yet. I have the feeling she might fall into the wrong hands and be used as a weapon.


I do like that Heroes is such an eclectic show racially. When I first started watching, I didn't think so, but now over time, it truly is more racially diverse then many shows on TV right now. I am kind of bummed they killed DL and Simone off since they seemed to be the only main black characters on the show besides the Haitian. (and Micah of course) But they didn't seem to know what to do with DL's character. I'm hoping they'll add new black characters in the future again.

Of course, I'm not sure if DL truly died or not. It seemed like he did, but maybe he'll show up again too like Sylar.

Well there is a few more members of DL's family coming in a few episodes. His Niece and I belive Nichelle Nichols character will be realted to him somehow too. Maybe as his Grandmother. I can't remember what they said about her character totaly.

[Chase]

I'm beginning to think the hooded murderer is Angela Petrelli. I know it's not a true indicator, but Nathan did call her evil, and for all we know, she could also possess Nathan's ability of flight. It would explain why Kaito Nakamura said that he never expected it to be her - as she was also marked for death. She's one of the remaining nine of the original group that started The Company, and would be rather surprising. I'm betting on her as The Hooded Murderer (for now, at least). 0_<

[Jared]

So pretending no one saw the promo for next week, who is still MIA? And realizing that some of these people have probably been written out of the show, but I feel like making a list anyways.


The entire Hawkins clan.
Sylar.
Hiro's sister, who could potentially be another Hero.
The Haitian.
Wireless (technically deceased, but now a ghost in the machine).
Audrey Hanson, the FBI agent.
Candice.
Sanjog Iyer, the dream boy.
Claude.
Janice Parkman and his possible, yet probably the other cop's, fetus.
Nathan's wife and kids.
Meredith Gordon, Claire's biomom.
Hal Sanders, Niki/Jessica's dad.

Am I missing anyone of any real importance?


Wireless died? When/how did that happen? The webcomic?

I can't believe they killed Hiro's dad off before we ever saw what his power was. I guess there's always flashbacks of course. But why is Mohinder so certain that Sylar is dead? Did nobody notice that his body *wasn't* left laying were he fell?

[MegaRaptor Scribe]

Who said that D.L. died? He was shot, they never said he was gone for good...

[mattx110]

Wireless died? When/how did that happen? The webcomic?

I can't believe they killed Hiro's dad off before we ever saw what his power was. I guess there's always flashbacks of course. But why is Mohinder so certain that Sylar is dead? Did nobody notice that his body *wasn't* left laying were he fell?

yea, he was like "the original 12 are all very powerful" and he didn't do anything but get tackled. and he's an expert swordsman! i want some more powers, or at least to know what he could have done...

[StoneGold]

Wireless died? When/how did that happen? The webcomic?


Yes. She isn't "dead dead" though. She's a ghost in the machine. Mind is stuck in the Internet.

[Pro]

I can't believe they killed Hiro's dad off before we ever saw what his power was. I guess there's always flashbacks of course.

Agree, which is why i'm not entirely sure Nakamura is dead dead, just deadish .. it seems wastefull to kill off a character with a strong emotional tie to one of the main characters, whose power isn't even revealed as he is pushed over a ledge. Perhaps Nakamura's power will somehow return him at some point. If his power was something that was activated then why didn't he use it offensively or defensively, so my guess is his power is not activated but triggered or always active, like Claire's and is defensive or protective in nature. In any case i wanted to see more of Nakamura and his relationship with his son.

But why is Mohinder so certain that Sylar is dead? Did nobody notice that his body *wasn't* left laying were he fell?

Yea that annoyed me too. Didn't anybody notice the body missing and the huge streak of blood pointing to the sewer entrance like a neonsign on fire. Hello Mohinder? You're supposed to be intelligent.

Perhaps episode 4 wil reveal things, think that's going to be a flashback episode.

Who said that D.L. died? He was shot, they never said he was gone for good...

In fact he was on his feet when nathan flew off with peter.

He's in promos with some chick who looks like a possible new cast member.

My guess is it's someone we already know, but you might not recognise her ;).
Think Sylar said something along the lines of:"Show me what's really going on here".
It would also explain why everyone thinks Sylar is dead because they saw what she wanted them to see.

[Eternal Torment]

Well, I have three questions.


1) What the hell is up with that girl's ability? It seems like its mentally based, but the damage it does is reversible as long as the guy gets there in time.

2) Angela was attacked by something, but was it invisible or was it like a projection (as in, I send my mind far away to tear someone to shreds)? And furthermore, why did the lights turn off?

3) Kensei is a regenerator? That was a curveball. So if he doesn't control insects, then who the hell is Kane?

[hulahulk]

Hmmmm. A quest for Isaac's legacy! And Peter's sitch gets more complex with an Irish hottie lass beside him! And still no Sylar or Nikki!


Ya know, I wuz thinkin'. Having seen the previews showing Sylar on a tropical beach with a hot redhead, I'm wondering if the redhead will end up being the big baddie for this season. She could be a master manipulator with some sort of powers, toying with the vile bastard and using him. Hmmmm....time will tell.

[hulahulk]

Well, I have three questions.


1) What the hell is up with that girl's ability? It seems like its mentally based, but the damage it does is reversible as long as the guy gets there in time.

2) Angela was attacked by something, but was it invisible or was it like a projection (as in, I send my mind far away to tear someone to shreds)? And furthermore, why did the lights turn off?

3) Kensei is a regenerator? That was a curveball. So if he doesn't control insects, then who the hell is Kane?


To help out with the second part of your second question, my hunch is we will know a lot more when Kristen Bell debuts.

[Cleric of Hell's Brigade]

Great episode.


Nice to see the Hatian back, and with Bennet no less!:D



Hopefully, we'll see/find out more about Mama P's attacker next episode.

[JesseJay]

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Is it just me, or did it seem that sylar was stopping a bank robbery in the preview? how very heroic of him. maybe he has amnesia.

[Magneto_X]

I wonder,what her brother does? Does he suppress her powers? Or does his presence just keep her calm? From the blood coming from their(the victims) eyes; it looks like kind of like the ebola virus. Maybe she rots the body from the inside or causes massive hemorages?

Perhaps she can give people dangerous virii ala Infectious Lass from Legion?

[Donald M.]

Perhaps she can give people dangerous virii ala Infectious Lass from Legion?

That doesn't explain why the woman helping them woke up after Maya's brother calmed her down.

Speaking of which, the way the black stuff coming out of her eyes just faded away looked cheesy as hell.

[Armless Penguin]

3) Kensei is a regenerator? That was a curveball. So if he doesn't control insects, then who the hell is Kane?

Might be wrong, but I'm thinking his power isn't so much regeneration as an inability to die (though this is mostly based off of Hiro's rather obvious, "You can't die!" right before he came back to life and both abilities would be remarkably similar).

[smartalek]

I like the fact that Peter is going to take on some organized criminals and thugs. Up until now, most of the "heroes" have not taken on any criminals and have mostly been trying to save their own skin. Even Parkman, he's mostly been wondering around repeating what's on people's minds. Time for some vigilantism!

[Rick Summers]

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It seems to me that Maya transmits the airborne virus when she loses control and Alejandro absorbs the virus into himself from his surrounding area without doing any harm to himself (I suppose?)

It's funny that Pete uses his powers better with no memory LOL. And I don't remember him ever being really close to D.L. very long. But seriously, he could take that box and take off with no problem.

I wonder if Kensei is a distant relative of Claire?

I think whoever hurt Mrs. Petrelli may be the one who is scaring Molly in her nightmares (or a lackey at least...hopefully not Claude) Pretty slick how she figured out Matt was reading her mind and yelled at him :D

Claire is not taking being careful very seriously and West is going to be big trouble as a result.

Great way to bring back the Haitian. And glad to see the reunion at the end.

Also great to see that Isaac's legacy lives on.

I still want to know how Nate got healed of radiation poisoning.

And Candice could be anybody so I'm always waiting for that card to be played.

And finally Mr. Muggles proves he is smarter than any other character on the show. LOL

[cappa donna]

I like the fact that Peter is going to take on some organized criminals and thugs. Up until now, most of the "heroes" have not taken on any criminals and have mostly been trying to save their own skin. Even Parkman, he's mostly been wondering around repeating what's on people's minds. Time for some vigilantism!

Claire crashed her potential rapist into a wall. Claire is badass! She cut off her own little toe. Personally I think Claire is acting kinda dumb. I hope she smartens up soon.

[xnef1025]

I was thinking the same as Rick when it comes to Peter using his powers. Peter sure does a lot better with them when Peter isn't getting in the way.

Now that we know for sure that Claire can grow whole parts back bone and all, who wants to start taking bets on the biggest part they cut off of her this season? I got 5 bucks on her right arm at the shoulder.

Eight paintings, nine remaining founders with one killer among them. Issac painted the deaths of 8 of the 9. Perhaps the killer is the one who dies in the last one, sparing one of the group.

Hooray! Time for the Noah and The Haitian Road Show. It'll be like if Batman and the Martian Manhunter subbed for Hal and Ollie in the HTH days.

Hiro in the past is good old fashioned time traveling fun. Guess that story about the Dragon and Kensei ripping out his own heart was meant to be taken literally.

[Blueferret]

Need a little help: What happened at the very end after Claire ran out the door? My DVR cut out so I didn't see anything after that. Also, Parkman and Ando never met each other last season? I thought they had? Also, I like the fact that Angela has had some sort of PSI Training apparently when she told Parkman to get out.

[mattx110]

Need a little help: What happened at the very end after Claire ran out the door? My DVR cut out so I didn't see anything after that. Also, Parkman and Ando never met each other last season? I thought they had? Also, I like the fact that Angela has had some sort of PSI Training apparently when she told Parkman to get out.

flyboy left a copy of Suresh's genetics book on super-people and flew away. the dog was barking at him floating offscreen while claire picked up the book and looked around.

and i don't know... i think all the petrellis know ando... where was he at the end when they all were in new york last season?

[StoneGold]

OK, so we have a case with 12 potential murder victims, and the alpha female survives her apparent murder attempt. I was kind of kidding last week, but now I'm thinking Mrs. Petrelli might me Sophia Gigante in a replay of the Long Halloween.




Also, Hiro got a masked secret ID! Wheee!!!!!

[Chase]

Did I just see what I think I saw? Did Claire's toe just sprout a clone? Ah buh? O_O??

[BeastieRunner]

I think West is a Company plant.

[Karl J Barnes]

I was thinking the same as Rick when it comes to Peter using his powers. Peter sure does a lot better with them when Peter isn't getting in the way.

Now that we know for sure that Claire can grow whole parts back bone and all, who wants to start taking bets on the biggest part they cut off of her this season? I got 5 bucks on her right arm at the shoulder.

Eight paintings, nine remaining founders with one killer among them. Issac painted the deaths of 8 of the 9. Perhaps the killer is the one who dies in the last one, sparing one of the group.

Hooray! Time for the Noah and The Haitian Road Show. It'll be like if Batman and the Martian Manhunter subbed for Hal and Ollie in the HTH days.

Hiro in the past is good old fashioned time traveling fun. Guess that story about the Dragon and Kensei ripping out his own heart was meant to be taken literally.

Peter's problems with his powers is that he thinks about them too much; whereas when he reacts instinctively, he uses them better. Peter has always been better when using his emotions/instincts than thinking/being rational.

[Chase]

I think West is a Company plant.

Ah-greed.

So, he just plops up out of no where, stalks Claire, and expects her to trust him? Yeeeah, nooo....

[Karl J Barnes]

Ah-greed.

So, he just plops up out of no where, stalks Claire, and expects her to trust him? Yeeeah, nooo....

Or maybe he is a plant for the new baddie ?

[Chase]

Or maybe he is a plant for the new baddie ?

Ah, interesting. So we'd have the Heroes, The Company, and the new villain using West a la Mister Sinister's puppet master strategy? That'll work. ^.^

Oh course, we also have the original remaining nine, but I ignored them. x_0

[kingdom2000]

Wonder when/if they will explain how Peter got new powers. The collection last season didn't have lightening powers. The phasing was from whatshisname but if remember right Peter never got near him so couldn't absorb them. Technically he could have got the super strength from Nikki but proximity would be an issue on that as they didn't get that close. Wonder what other new powers he has collected.

Also what story are they trying to tell about Maya? Its hard to feel sympathy for someone that is a walking death whose power is tied into her emotions, something she has little control over yet keeps allowing herself to be among others. She is a completely unsympathic character as a result.

Someone that dangerous with that little control would need to be destroyed, if they are unwilling to do it themselves as this character apparently isn't. I could be sympathetic if she tried to kill herself and simply wouldn't die or was a very young child that simply didn't know better but thats not the case here. Based on the online comics and the first ep she actually has a higher death count then Syler already.

It wouldn't be so bad except clearly the writers know better as demonstrated with the nuclear powers guy who secluded himself (for a while anyway) and practiced control over his powers. In her case, you would think she would practice emotional control. Its just a huge miss and either the writers need to redeam the character or jettison it.

[cappa donna]

Wonder when/if they will explain how Peter got new powers. The collection last season didn't have lightening powers. The phasing was from whatshisname but if remember right Peter never got near him so couldn't absorb them. Technically he could have got the super strength from Nikki but proximity would be an issue on that as they didn't get that close. Wonder what other new powers he has collected.

Also what story are they trying to tell about Maya? Its hard to feel sympathy for someone that is a walking death whose power is tied into her emotions, something she has little control over yet keeps allowing herself to be among others. She is a completely unsympathic character as a result.

Someone that dangerous with that little control would need to be destroyed, if they are unwilling to do it themselves as this character apparently isn't. I could be sympathetic if she tried to kill herself and simply wouldn't die or was a very young child that simply didn't know better but thats not the case here. Based on the online comics and the first ep she actually has a higher death count then Syler already.

It wouldn't be so bad except clearly the writers know better as demonstrated with the nuclear powers guy who secluded himself (for a while anyway) and practiced control over his powers. In her case, you would think she would practice emotional control. Its just a huge miss and either the writers need to redeam the character or jettison it.

Pretty Latina who brings to all when she's distressed. Sounds about right. And Jessica was standing right next to Peter at the end of last season in the final showdown with Sylar. Don't know when he would have met DL though. Seems like a gaph. Maybe DL was off to the side somewhere when the Scooby gang was fighting Sylar.

[Samuraixsithlord]

So if the previews are correct it looks like Candice and Sylar may team up. Unless of cource Sylar is really chilling at some tropical island

[Chiasm]

Might be wrong, but I'm thinking his power isn't so much regeneration as an inability to die (though this is mostly based off of Hiro's rather obvious, "You can't die!" right before he came back to life and both abilities would be remarkably similar).

Holy crap!

This makes so much sense. And it explains a lot. He is Mr Immortal of the Great Lakes Avengers and he can't die.

Which means that he is the one who killed Hiro's father. It makes so much sense. For one thing it explains how he walked away after going off the ledge. For another it connects the two plots nicely for future plot drama. And best of all it gives Mr Sark, er whatever his name is, a perfectly plausible reason to appear in current time.

[Samurai]

Here's a thought: Perhaps the title of the episode, "Lizards", refers not just to Claire but to Peter too. We know Peter has Claire's regeneration power, and we think he was blown to bits in that giant explosion last season. So what if 1 piece of Peter grew into the one in Ireland? It would explain the lack of memories (only the physical body grew back, not its memories), the short hair, etc. And it also leaves open the possibility that there could be more Peters out there, perhaps an army of them, perhaps under the villain's control... It could be that Claire's little attempt at cloning may be foreshadowing this big revelation later in the season...

[Samuraixsithlord]

Here's a thought: Perhaps the title of the episode, "Lizards", refers not just to Claire but to Peter too. We know Peter has Claire's regeneration power, and we think he was blown to bits in that giant explosion last season. So what if 1 piece of Peter grew into the one in Ireland? It would explain the lack of memories (only the physical body grew back, not its memories), the short hair, etc. And it also leaves open the possibility that there could be more Peters out there, perhaps an army of them, perhaps under the villain's control... It could be that Claire's little attempt at cloning may be foreshadowing this big revelation later in the season...


not to knock your theory but that would be a stupid approach. I do agree that Peters lack of memories could have been caused by much of his brain matter getting fried in the explosion. but chunks of Peter regrowing wouldn't be possible as they would lack the ability to injest matter for new cell growth.

One thing about Claire that i'd like for them to indroduce in the new season is her increased metabolism. In order to keep up with her healing ability she'd have to eat and drink alot to make up for any lost fluids and body mass

[hulahulk]

So if the previews are correct it looks like Candice and Sylar may team up. Unless of cource Sylar is really chilling at some tropical island

That's Candice?

[Loren]

So if the previews are correct...

I'd like to encourage everyone to avoid talking about the previews without spoiler tags. I, personally, watch the Heroes previews, but not everyone does. And really, their content is spoilerish. There was stuff we saw in last week's previews that wasn't even in this week's show.

[Tommy]

There was stuff we saw in last week's previews that wasn't even in this week's show.

Last week's preview was a season preview, not an episode preview.

[Phil Clark]

I don't know... IMO, anything that has been broadcast doesn't need to be in spoiler tags, even previews for the next show. After all, the previews tease plot points, but they are often deceptive and misleading the way they are edited together. So while it appears one way, it may be something else entirely.

[xnef1025]

I don't know... IMO, anything that has been broadcast doesn't need to be in spoiler tags, even previews for the next show. After all, the previews tease plot points, but they are often deceptive and misleading the way they are edited together. So while it appears one way, it may be something else entirely.
Network promo monkeys can be surprisingly stupid and put together previews that give away entire episodes. Many people do go out of thier way to avoid the previews due to that fact.

[Justin D.]

Holy crap!

This makes so much sense. And it explains a lot. He is Mr Immortal of the Great Lakes Avengers and he can't die.

Which means that he is the one who killed Hiro's father. It makes so much sense. For one thing it explains how he walked away after going off the ledge. For another it connects the two plots nicely for future plot drama. And best of all it gives Mr Sark, er whatever his name is, a perfectly plausible reason to appear in current time.

Wow, that makes absolute sense, and I wouldn't be surprised at all if the story played out like that. What's interesting is that even if that's the truth about what's going to happen, I'll still watch to see it unfold.

I'm sticking with that theory now unless something else comes up to prove it completely wrong.

[Shostie]

Wonder when/if they will explain how Peter got new powers. The collection last season didn't have lightening powers. The phasing was from whatshisname but if remember right Peter never got near him so couldn't absorb them. Technically he could have got the super strength from Nikki but proximity would be an issue on that as they didn't get that close. Wonder what other new powers he has collected.

The "lightning" thing (looks more like energy blasts to me, especially after last night's episode) is probably from Ted Sprague. I'm not sure how close Peter got to DL, but they've never really explained how close Peter has to get to someone to mimic their powers. Same with Niki. Besides, Sylar apparently has a whole mess of powers we never saw him acquire, and Peter was very close to Sylar at the end of last season.

There's also a chance for a whole mess of new powers he doesn't even know he has coming from any powered folk who happened to be nearby when he was transported, given a new haircut and some jewelry, and lovingly handcuffed to the inside of a cargo container.

[Todd H]

Here's a thought: Perhaps the title of the episode, "Lizards", refers not just to Claire but to Peter too. We know Peter has Claire's regeneration power, and we think he was blown to bits in that giant explosion last season.

I didn't really think of Peter as being blown to bits. I figured he just went Nova like the Human Torch. When it was all over his burned husk fell to the ground, regenrated and was then picked up and mind wiped by the Haitain. Did anyone notice if the Haitian had his necklace last night? I didn't see it which means that Peter could be wearing it.

I also had assumed he'd have used super strength (picked up from Niki) and hurled Nate out of the blast radius before he went off. Plus we have no idea what other powers he'd absorbed from Sylar in the finale.

I really hope they start moving the latino's story along. I'm already a bit bored with them.

Oh and can we get the limited commercial interruption brought back from Nissan or something? It felt like there was a freaking commercial every 20 seconds last night.

[Loren]

Network promo monkeys can be surprisingly stupid and put together previews that give away entire episodes. Many people do go out of thier way to avoid the previews due to that fact.

I've avoided the teasers at the end of '24' for years, for precisely that reason.

And starting this year, I think I'll start doing the same for 'Lost.' ABC has ruined surprises so many times with their teasers and commercials that it's gotten tiresome. Virtually every time a cast member dies, they promote the fact that somebody's going to die (and because of the way Lost structures its flashbacks, you can pinpoint at the start of the episode who it's going to be).

They let you know that there are big mysteries being revealed, so you watch the episode *expecting* those revelations. And when they don't live up to the hype, we blame the show. There was that episode last season that explained where Jack got his tattoos, and viewers complained because it was a lame revelation. And it was. But it was ABC's promos that led us to expect something big and earthshattering. The episode itself didn't set up such expectations. Thus, the episode ended up being more disappointing than it should have been BECAUSE of the promos we saw.

I'm not quite to that point with Heroes, but if they keep showing characters reappearing for the first time in promos, then I may start avoiding those too. And if I start that, I'd hate to have to avoid this thread entirely, because people are discussing what's planned for *next* week's episode.

[Shostie]

But it was ABC's promos that led us to expect something big and earthshattering.

I'm pretty sure that the promos for EVERY episode of Lost have led us to believe that each and every episode would have some earthshattering revelation.

Think about it. There's not a single one that doesn't say something like, "Next time on Lost, blah blah blah blah blah, [out of context scene "blah blah blah, " says character] and someone's dark secret will be revealed!"

[Howard Allan]

Did I just see what I think I saw? Did Claire's toe just sprout a clone? Ah buh? O_O??


Does the body just grow a new toe or is the power resident in every part of her body. If it is, the toe can grow a new body.



THINK ABOUT IT!!!!

[StoneGold]

So, what with the title of the episode, how long before Claire's teacher goes all Doc Connors?

[Zucchini]

Does the body just grow a new toe or is the power resident in every part of her body. If it is, the toe can grow a new body.



THINK ABOUT IT!!!!

LOL I was thinking the same thing when she clipped off her pinky toe...The Toe will come back as a whole new character! Funny stuff.

When they were investigating the murder scene on the roof, the older cop says something like, "Well we only found one body, so it means someone either walked off or flew away". I bet its neither to throw the audience off, and from the other posters, having the english samuri who cannot die kill off hiros father, making him both hiros greatest admirer and also his greatest enemy...

Does Peters electric powers have anything to do with the surging lights at the police station where mama was "attacked"?

And speaking of peter...weve seen that hes absorbed others powers, so its possible that he siphoned Hiros time traveling powers, and this amnesia peter is the future hiros best friend, transported back in time when the the nuclear blast ripped a hole in the space -time continum, knocking out his memory.

And again Mr. Muggles is featured...he is a shapeshifter, I know it!

[Justin D.]

People are confusing the words clone and regenerate. Claire didn't clone her toe. She regenerated it. There's a definite difference.

[Farealmer]

One thing about Claire that i'd like for them to indroduce in the new season is her increased metabolism. In order to keep up with her healing ability she'd have to eat and drink alot to make up for any lost fluids and body mass

I don't see why this would be necessary. Considering Hiro's and Ted's ability we already have two people that seemingly violate the energy matter conservation law. Why should Claire be any different?

[CBR News]

"Heroes" Images from Season 2, Episode 3, "Kindred"

NBC has provided CBR News with images from the next episode of "Heroes" entitled "Kindred," airing next Monday, November 8, 2007.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=12009

[Mo S.]

"Heroes" Images from Season 2, Episode 3, "Kindred"

NBC has provided CBR News with images from the next episode of "Heroes" entitled "Kindred," airing next Monday, November 8, 2007.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=12009

Time's not passing THAT quickly. Next Monday is October 8th.

[Ian J.N.]

Anyone get the impression that the writers are setting up "Nathan as the assassin" red herring storyline? He was in close proximity when his Mom and Hiro's dad received their death threats. Also, the fact that only one body hit the ground when they both went over the edge points to someone who can fly (yeah, I know it could also be someone who teleports or phases).
I get that impression, yes, except I think Nathan IS the killer... sorta. He's possessed by the spirit of his dead father.

[StoneGold]

I don't see why this would be necessary. Considering Hiro's and Ted's ability we already have two people that seemingly violate the energy matter conservation law. Why should Claire be any different?

Not necessarily. Hiro's power is so exotic... well, I'm not sure if laws of conservation count when you step outside the time stream. So maybe it does, maybe it doesn't.

But Ted went through periods of buildup and cool down. He could be more of a nuclear battery than a nuclear generator, absorbing and redistributing ambient energy. Or you could go with the old OHOTMU reference, that all energy is syphoned from an extradimensional source.

[Ugoff]

LOL I was thinking the same thing when she clipped off her pinky toe...The Toe will come back as a whole new character! Funny stuff.

When they were investigating the murder scene on the roof, the older cop says something like, "Well we only found one body, so it means someone either walked off or flew away". I bet its neither to throw the audience off, and from the other posters, having the english samuri who cannot die kill off hiros father, making him both hiros greatest admirer and also his greatest enemy...

Does Peters electric powers have anything to do with the surging lights at the police station where mama was "attacked"?

And speaking of peter...weve seen that hes absorbed others powers, so its possible that he siphoned Hiros time traveling powers, and this amnesia peter is the future hiros best friend, transported back in time when the the nuclear blast ripped a hole in the space -time continum, knocking out his memory.

And again Mr. Muggles is featured...he is a shapeshifter, I know it!

Ooooh! These are such juicy ideas! Especially the one about Muggles! LOL! I wonder though why they had that scene with that guy theartening to burn Peter's stuff and Peter just being like ok I'll help you. They should have at least let Peter say that he could take what he wanted and leave if he really wanted to. But oh well, just a small gripe that I can ignore. So far I really like the new characters and the show feels even stronger than last season for sure.

[Shostie]

I get that impression, yes, except I think Nathan IS the killer... sorta. He's possessed by the spirit of his dead father.

My wife had the thought last night that Claude could be the killer, which except for the pesky fact that the attacker seemingly survived a 20-story fall, is a pretty good theory.

[StoneGold]

My wife had the thought last night that Claude could be the killer, which except for the pesky fact that the attacker seemingly survived a 20-story fall, is a pretty good theory.

He survived that pretty good fall off the bridge with a couple bullets in him.





Course, that's also assuming he went all the way over the side. He could have hit the edge, went invisible and grabbed onto the ledge. Although it probably isn't Claude. For one thing, he's not exactly on what I would assume is the list of least likely suspects, give that he has a known mad-on for the Company. If it was Claude, the quote probably would have gone "I always wondered when you might catch up to us. Oh my!"


I still think it was Ricardo Montalban. KAAAHHHHNN!!!!!!

[Ugoff]

Also what story are they trying to tell about Maya? Its hard to feel sympathy for someone that is a walking death whose power is tied into her emotions, something she has little control over yet keeps allowing herself to be among others. She is a completely unsympathic character as a result.

Someone that dangerous with that little control would need to be destroyed, if they are unwilling to do it themselves as this character apparently isn't. I could be sympathetic if she tried to kill herself and simply wouldn't die or was a very young child that simply didn't know better but thats not the case here. Based on the online comics and the first ep she actually has a higher death count then Syler already.

It wouldn't be so bad except clearly the writers know better as demonstrated with the nuclear powers guy who secluded himself (for a while anyway) and practiced control over his powers. In her case, you would think she would practice emotional control. Its just a huge miss and either the writers need to redeam the character or jettison it.

Not to be rude but you a very incorrect about Maya. SHe has control of her powers when she is with her brother. That's why they try so hard to stay together even risking their lives to do so. Her character is far from unsympathetic. I think this storyline is very well written and will firgure into the over all plot of this season.

[mattx110]

Does the body just grow a new toe or is the power resident in every part of her body. If it is, the toe can grow a new body.



THINK ABOUT IT!!!!

so far the powers have supposedly been all based in the brain. so, maybe that's the cutoff point where she stops regenerating... if you cut off the head, the head might grow a body, but the body won't grow a head. hopefully we won't have to find out...

[StoneGold]

so far the powers have supposedly been all based in the brain. so, maybe that's the cutoff point where she stops regenerating... if you cut off the head, the head might grow a body, but the body won't grow a head. hopefully we won't have to find out...

And in the meantime, you've got Hiro running around medieval Japan with a katana. Can you say "there can be only one?"

[Farealmer]

But Ted went through periods of buildup and cool down. He could be more of a nuclear battery than a nuclear generator, absorbing and redistributing ambient energy. Or you could go with the old OHOTMU reference, that all energy is syphoned from an extradimensional source.
Either way if he can convert energy into one form why can't Claire convert it into mass?

[Phil Clark]

so far the powers have supposedly been all based in the brain. so, maybe that's the cutoff point where she stops regenerating... if you cut off the head, the head might grow a body, but the body won't grow a head. hopefully we won't have to find out...

Ah, but here is an interesting thought... if she were to be cut in half, with half a brain in each half of body... would each half regenerate and regrow the missing half, thus making two Claire's? Or would that be too much trauma for her brain? Remember that when there was a piece of wood stuck in her brain, her power stopped until it was removed.

[Lord of Denial]

The chick who kills people with a virus is pissing me off. You don't want to kill people and you know it is trigger by fear and emotion so maybe you should grow a spine and stop being a whiny emo bitch 24/7.

[InsaneGame]

I dont know if anyone has hit on this subject, But Mama P says she and Hiro's dad havent slept together in a long time. You think this maybe a hint that Peter and Hiro maybe related?

I mean they seemed to be good friends in the future but maybe thats becuase they were related?

[Eternal Torment]

The chick who kills people with a virus is pissing me off. You don't want to kill people and you know it is trigger by fear and emotion so maybe you should grow a spine and stop being a whiny emo bitch 24/7.

Well, That's only if the power really is triggered by emotion, gives people a virus and isn't active 24/7. She believes only the presence of her brother will stop it from activating. If it really is emotion, people will start dying when the two are separated and she becomes hysterical. Speaking of which, I'm sure that the Haitian can negate her power.

[Sean Whitmore]

The chick who kills people with a virus is pissing me off. You don't want to kill people and you know it is trigger by fear and emotion so maybe you should grow a spine and stop being a whiny emo bitch 24/7.

Somebody should just tell her that, it'd be sure to solve the problem right away.


SEAN

[Lord of Denial]

Somebody should just tell her that, it'd be sure to solve the problem right away.


SEAN

Your right it's clear crying and whining 24 hours a day solves it.

[xnef1025]

so far the powers have supposedly been all based in the brain. so, maybe that's the cutoff point where she stops regenerating... if you cut off the head, the head might grow a body, but the body won't grow a head. hopefully we won't have to find out...
Her brain has to be working in order to heal though. So theoretically, if you cut off her head, she dies, but you could use an artificial lung and heart with a baggy of blood to start her brain up again and make it start replicating a body out of her neck stump. As long as the cut didn't sever the medulla oblongota since that seems to be where you can shove a stick in to turn her off.

[Sean Whitmore]

Your right it's clear crying and whining 24 hours a day solves it.

No, I was agreeing with you.

Someone should just smack her and say, "Man up, wimp!" Then she'll never be scared again when someone tries to rape her or her brother almost gets killed.


SEAN

[Lord of Denial]

No, I was agreeing with you.

Someone should just smack her and say, "Man up, wimp!" Then she'll never be scared again when someone tries to rape her or her brother almost gets killed.


SEAN

Okay

I don't know nothin bout no sarcasm seeing as I an uneducated folk.

[Ugoff]

I think it's pretty clear that Maya's powers are activated when she is not in the presence of her brother, which they already gave us a hint about before the new season even started.

[Lord of Denial]

I think it's pretty clear that Maya's powers are activated when she is not in the presence of her brother, which they already gave us a hint about before the new season even started.

No it's not.

She only caused deaths when she was scared and her brother was gone.

It might be both. It is still up in the air

[Ugoff]

No it's not.

She only caused deaths when she was scared and her brother was gone.

It might be both. It is still up in the air

When they were running from the police in the first episode Maya was hysterical and very emotional but she didnt go all Thyphoid Mary. Also they told us that the fact that they were twins would figure into their powers before the new season even started so why would her powers be linked to her emotional state at any given time?

[Black Atom]

When they were running from the police in the first episode Maya was hysterical and very emotional but she didnt go all Thyphoid Mary. Also they told us that the fact that they were twins would figure into their powers before the new season even started so why would her powers be linked to her emotional state at any given time?

I think you're on to something. They've been making an emphasis of how they're always together, too (the lady that's helping them mentions how her brother's never far behind). It also shows why the brother was so insistent to sit up front with her and why she was so worried to split from him even briefly going in the tunnel.

[Corrina]

Yeah, I think he cancels out her powers when they're in proximity, so the black gunk doesn't start, even if she's upset.

[xnef1025]

Yeah, I think he cancels out her powers when they're in proximity, so the black gunk doesn't start, even if she's upset.
That crazy genetics. When the zygote split, she got the on switch and he got the off switch.

[hulahulk]

Why are people speculating on Claire's toe regenerating? It's common knowledge by now that this would happen. As far as a clone? Yeah, right.

Maya and brother? I agree with Ugoff 100%.

And as far as Peter's supposed electrical powers? Read about Kristen Bell's debut, as I mentioned a few pages ago on this thread.

[StoneGold]

That crazy genetics. When the zygote split, she got the on switch and he got the off switch.

Yeah, fraternal twins don't work that way. Which they are, having different genitalia.


In any case, the fact that the brother can actually pull the death spore virus (that's what it reminds me of, damn you Strucker!) out of people infected by it would indicate that he is the inhibitor.

[literally exaggerated]

Just saw it. Sweet episode. Obviously these episodes aren't as gripping as the end of last season, but IMO they're quite a bit better than the beginning episodes of season 1. This season has a lot of potential. Things I really liked:

Peter finally using his powers competently. I'm thinking he got some training that he can't consciously remember but still on some level retains. Regardless, healing + phasing + electric powers + tk + superstrength = severely badass.

the return of the Bennett/Haitian duo. and the way it happened too. somehow they got me twice in a row on basically the same ruse. just more proof that HRG is forever the man.

Hiro hilariously trying to make sure history turns out the right way, and in the process actually using his ridiculously powerful abilities to even a fraction of their potential (and making it look effortless to boot).

Ma Petrelli bitching Matt out of her head.

Things I don't like:

Wes. He's a creepy little prick, and I think Claire's far too good and mature a character to saddle her with a douchey little emo goblin like him. Spying on her? Can't Claire meet any guys her age who aren't stalker rapist psycho types?

the Twins. Cool effect, but the one-note performances bore me. For all intents and purposes the new Nikki and DL in my mind (speaking of which, I'm so glad they haven't returned yet).

Nathan as the Unabomber. Shady, slick politician was much more interesting than embittered drunk.

[dougputhoff]

I think they should after Al Qaida.

[Jmacq1]

I dont know if anyone has hit on this subject, But Mama P says she and Hiro's dad havent slept together in a long time. You think this maybe a hint that Peter and Hiro maybe related?

I mean they seemed to be good friends in the future but maybe thats becuase they were related?

I dunno about Peter and Hiro being related. I couldn't help but think more along the lines of "Dang, Mama P got around didn't she?" She seemed to have a more-than-friendly fixation on Linderman, too. Or at least seemed to virtually worship the man.

I confess, the "Elder Generation Conspiracy" is the most interesting part of the show for me right now. It sounds like they started with the best of intentions but somehow got warped into something far more sinister. I'll be curious to find out exactly what happened with all that.

[Ian J.N.]

A few thoughts:

1. Petrelli Sr. using the godsend as his firm's logo is analogous to Kensei using it as his standard.

2. I find it convenient that the ancient Japanese samurai would be caucasian. The immediate thought is that he's related to one (or more) of the other characters.

3. I find it especially convenient that he's a blond-haired caucasian with regenerative abilities--like Claire, Petrelli Sr.'s granddaughter.

4. Presumably, Hiro's samurai adventure is going to dovetail with the larger story. Perhaps he'll bring Kensei forward in time.


So, does anyone else think Kensei is Papa Petrelli?

[Mac Danny]

A few thoughts:

1. Petrelli Sr. using the godsend as his firm's logo is analogous to Kensei using it as his standard.

2. I find it convenient that the ancient Japanese samurai would be caucasian. The immediate thought is that he's related to one (or more) of the other characters.

3. I find it especially convenient that he's a blond-haired caucasian with regenerative abilities--like Claire, Petrelli Sr.'s granddaughter.

4. Presumably, Hiro's samurai adventure is going to dovetail with the larger story. Perhaps he'll bring Kensei forward in time.


So, does anyone else think Kensei is Papa Petrelli?

Papa Petreilli isn't Kensei I think. In the online comic that introduced Linderman's back story, Papa Petreilli had no gifts.

I DO think it ws Kensei that Killed Kaito. Big fall, no body, and the mark on the pictures is the Kensei standard? Yeah The immortal Brit killed Kaito.

Also, if Kensei has regenerative capabilities, he would never age, and never die unless he suffers a brain injury. His cells would keep regenerating stopping the aging process.

So claire will always look 17. That is going to suck for her.

[saintsaucey]

Tottally!

You know theyve set up things in the first season that they are still riffing on now, and they make a point to feature the dog very prominantly at times...

When they switch around all the roles, and the bad guys become good and the good guys go bad, Mr. Muggles will be at the center of it all.

HGH will go from loving father back to being a creep, Sylar will have to help stop a brain washed "bad" Peter, and Mr. Muggles killed Sulu... BAD dog!

i thought for quite a while that mr muggles was a shapeshifter

[kmeyers]

So, does anyone else think Kensei is Papa Petrelli?

No, but I do think that Kensei is one of the members of that group, possibly even the founder, since he's so old.

[Jazzy Jay]

Wes. He's a creepy little prick, and I think Claire's far too good and mature a character to saddle her with a douchey little emo goblin like him. Spying on her? Can't Claire meet any guys her age who aren't stalker rapist psycho types?



Word. This kid is an absolute abomination of character. He's not funny, he's not charming, he's just a creepy-ass loser. I hope to God they get rid of him soon.

And why they are pushing the whole "Box of Memories" thing in the ads? We already know Peter's history, so watching him trying to get the box isn't very compelling.

[Black Atom]

And why they are pushing the whole "Box of Memories" thing in the ads? We already know Peter's history, so watching him trying to get the box isn't very compelling.

I thought about that too. Peter's like "Why don't I just beat the shit out of you and leave?" and the Irish guy says "Because I have this box with your identity in it!" to which Peter should've replied "Aces. So why don't I just beat the shit out of you, take the box, and leave?"

Also, a guy who can't die doesn't seem like a particularly formidable assassin, given the folks we're dealing with. Although, I guess he's got that whole Terminator thing going for him.

[Sean Whitmore]

And why they are pushing the whole "Box of Memories" thing in the ads? We already know Peter's history, so watching him trying to get the box isn't very compelling.

I'm assuming the box's contents will be clues about what happened to Peter after the fight with Sylar, rather than generic clues about who he is.


SEAN

[xnef1025]

I'm assuming the box's contents will be clues about what happened to Peter after the fight with Sylar, rather than generic clues about who he is.


SEAN
I just figure Hollywood thinks boxes are exciting ever since Seven.

"What's in the m--f--- box!"

[StoneGold]

I just figure Hollywood thinks boxes are exciting ever since Seven.

"What's in the m--f--- box!"

It worked an hour earlier on Prison Break.

[Eternal Torment]

I'm assuming the box's contents will be clues about what happened to Peter after the fight with Sylar, rather than generic clues about who he is.


SEAN

Speaking of that brain stealing psycho, some people say that he will lose his powers after killing Candice next week. If that's true, then I think I'll avoid that episode.

[Fish Sauce]

Also, a guy who can't die doesn't seem like a particularly formidable assassin, given the folks we're dealing with. Although, I guess he's got that whole Terminator thing going for him.

Except for how superstitious his enemies are. They'll be running scared of the man who cannot die.

[Chase]

Papa Petreilli isn't Kensei I think. In the online comic that introduced Linderman's back story, Papa Petreilli had no gifts.

I DO think it ws Kensei that Killed Kaito. Big fall, no body, and the mark on the pictures is the Kensei standard? Yeah The immortal Brit killed Kaito.

Also, if Kensei has regenerative capabilities, he would never age, and never die unless he suffers a brain injury. His cells would keep regenerating stopping the aging process.

Now that you bring it up, it would make sense ("I never thought it would be you"), and would make Hiro's efforts all the more tragic.

So claire will always look 17. That is going to suck for her.

Yeah, that's going to suck for people... >_> ... <_< ...

[Phil Clark]

As far as the box goes... maybe it is actually just a trick. I mean what if the guy just pulled the name Peter out of thin air and hoped that the suggestion of the idea that it was in fact Peter's name would be enough to control him for a while. Little knowing that Peter actually is his name.

So that could just be an empty box.

[marshal99]

It's beginning to wear out , every guy who interacts with the heroes themselves turned out to have powers. Soon , everyone and their dog will have powers as well.
Too many people with healing abilities on the show - last count ,3 or 4 if you count Sylar since Sylar does possess some form of healing ability. Maybe Kenzei is Claire's great great great grandfather.

[cappa donna]

It's beginning to wear out , every guy who interacts with the heroes themselves turned out to have powers. Soon , everyone and their dog will have powers as well.
Too many people with healing abilities on the show - last count ,3 or 4 if you count Sylar since Sylar does possess some form of healing ability. Maybe Kenzei is Claire's great great great grandfather.

The more powers the better. As long as they're interesting and well executed you really can't go wrong with a few new characters this season. It adds depth to idea of an actual hereo community, and not just makes it seem like a few mutated mice who escaped a lab and need to be contained. Too cliche. Let get the birth of actual new race of homo superior without tryna marginalize it or make them seem like some kind of "mistakes."

[Tyr]

You know sometimes I wonder if they like to throw us predictable plots just so they could throw us a curve when are gaurd is down. I knew that Hiro was going to sub for Kensei, I saw that coming from a mile away. Kensai having a healing factor, that took me by surprise. Even after I had talked to someone about there possibly being something special about Kensai.

[Mac Danny]

Ok so the guy who killed Kaito I think was one of the original members of the group. I think he is Kensai, who so far is a Claire type special.

Now the special that attacked Angela, could also be one of the original group, but I think with more "Candace" type mind powers.

That is my season 2 theory so far.

EDIT: OR He is a Peter Type Empath who has a whole list opf powers. I like it better if they are separate people from the old guard.

BTW, now that Peter has Claire's powers Peter will never age either?

[Stretch Dude]

Now the special that attacked Angela, could also be one of the original group, but I think with more "Candace" type mind powers.

It's gotta have something to do with mirrors. Note how the attack stopped once Matt smashed the window.

[Phil Clark]

That or a need to work in secrecy, and as soon as Matt smashed the two way mirror the attacker realized that they were discovered and ended the attack.

[CBR News]

Things move fast on "Heroes." The mysteries continue to evolve and more changes are to come. We've got a preview of what's next with three video clips from Monday's episode titled "Kindred."

http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=12039

[mattx110]

That or a need to work in secrecy, and as soon as Matt smashed the two way mirror the attacker realized that they were discovered and ended the attack.

either way, mirror-based teleportation power serial killer is pretty cool. meaner mirror master who doesn't care about money...

[Magneto_X]

It's beginning to wear out , every guy who interacts with the heroes themselves turned out to have powers. Soon , everyone and their dog will have powers as well.
Too many people with healing abilities on the show - last count ,3 or 4 if you count Sylar since Sylar does possess some form of healing ability. Maybe Kenzei is Claire's great great great grandfather.

Why does this surprise you?

Heroes is basically X-men: the tv show.

[SPAfreak]

That or a need to work in secrecy, and as soon as Matt smashed the two way mirror the attacker realized that they were discovered and ended the attack.

Considering that you're constantly being watched and or taped in a police interrogation room I don't think that they were too concerned about secrecy.

[kmeyers]

Considering that you're constantly being watched and or taped in a police interrogation room I don't think that they were too concerned about secrecy.

I totally agree with you. I felt like it was an,"I can get you whenever/wherever I want. You are marked for death. This was just a terrorizing. If he/she/it wanted Mrs. Petrelli dead..she'd be dead."

[StoneGold]

Unless the attacker was actually Mrs. Petrelli. I'm still thinking this might be a con.

[kmeyers]

Unless the attacker was actually Mrs. Petrelli. I'm still thinking this might be a con.

Maybe mama petrelli is the master psi...

She Kicked Matt out of her head REAL quick.

What if she put on a show to make her seem like another victim. No matter what, She's shady!

[Magneto_X]

Unless the attacker was actually Mrs. Petrelli. I'm still thinking this might be a con.

I'm guessing she was attacked by the invisible guy. Claude was his name, I think.

[lewisr88]

i was just wondering what day do the latest episodes of Heroes premier over in the US? i normally get to watch the latest episodes on Tuesday evenings

[StoneGold]

I'm guessing she was attacked by the invisible guy. Claude was his name, I think.

That I really doubt. Just because Claude was the ultimate non-confrontationalist. And he's definitely not the guy who attacked Sulu. Because as I said earlier, there's no reason for Sulu to think that Claude wouldn't attack him one day. His organization tried to kill Claude.


I doubt Mrs. P was the one who sent Sulu over the railing, either. But I wouldn't be surprised if it was someone working with/for her. She seems like the kind of alpha bitch who would take over the pack with the death of Linderman for her own goals.

[mattx110]

I'm guessing she was attacked by the invisible guy. Claude was his name, I think.

but i like the character, so i'd rather he not be a killer.

plus, it has to be someone with creepy mind powers or it's a let down from last season. (or we explore how cynical and paranoid the kensei guy has gotten over the course of hundreds of years and the mystery turns out to be a non-mystery psycho-analysis type thing).

[moebius]

Mama Petrelli isn't the killer. She didn't know at first that Matt was going into her head, so the "revenge" statement seems legit.

[moebius]

Also, to echo:

Some of us don't watch the aired broadcast (watching it on NBC.com), or we don't watch NBC except to watch Heroes, or watch it in another country that doesn't do the previews. This means that we don't watch the previews, and therefore every time you bring up the previews, you're spoiling it for at least some of us.

Please stop. I like speculating in this thread and talking about a show I like with other people who like it, and I'd like to be able to continue doing so.

[StoneGold]

Mama Petrelli isn't the killer. She didn't know at first that Matt was going into her head, so the "revenge" statement seems legit.

I still don't think that precludes her from orchestrating the entire thing. Especially if she is creating an organization to be "they." Which I don't think is beyond her means.

And I mixed things up. Sophia Gigante was Hangman, not Holliday. Gilda Dent and Alberto Falcone were. But they all sort of dovetail into being a potential inspiration for Angela Petrelli, assuming that is the direction they are going with this.

[CBR News]

Joe & Aron are back to answer your questions about the first two episodes of "Heroes," shed some light on the many mysteries and announce the addition of a new hero!

http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=12055

[Jared]

random thoughts from halfway through the third episode:

Yup, the black guy always dies.

Canidice is now Michelle. Candice...Michelle. Is there a wrasslin' fan on the writing staff?

Wes is still a creep. God I hope Mr. Bennet goes Al Bundy on him.

[Tre Styles]

So Maya has a death aura? At first I thought it was people she touched, but it's anyone within a certain radius huh?

[cappa donna]

When Candice Michelle was goin on and on I saw the psycho killer look in Sylar's eye's and was hoping he had some semblance of intelligence and foresight. He proved me wrong, but it's obviously gonna end up working out. He could use some Petrelli brains right about now.

[Zucchini]

Sometimes stuffing all 27 characters story lines in the timeslot, it gets a little dilluted, like number 3 did for me. Some of the cut scenes just felt flat, and I am convinced that Hiro is doing an impersonation of Jar Jar Binks. Does he have to raise his arms in triumph and say Yippe! every episode?

I can see why Sylar was picked as spock in the new star trek relaunch, he is fantastic. He really chews up the scenes hes in, hes very believeable and natural...quite a talent.

When Maya made sure the guy would upset her by showing him the wanted poster, I got a whole "Hulk vibe"... the whole you wouldnt like me when Im angry kinda of feel.

When Peter had that dude against the wall, I saw a moment of an evil grin, I'm wondering if his contact with sylar did something to both of their powers.

I went to school with Leonard Roberts who played D.L., I was sad that we saw them go to his gravesite, sorry Leonard, next sitcom for you.

I think that we are being set up in 2 ways:

Peter is going to keep picking up powers and being hugely powerful, and the others have to band together to stop him, including Sylar.

HRG is going from the caring father that we are witnessing now back to the evil creep he was originally portrayed as.

That last lingering stare when HRG says an uncomfortable good night to claire was very powerful, hes like I know something secret about you and shes like I know some secrets about you, and you can see that mistrust in their eyes...

And that whole scene at the end where Mr. Muggles comes in to save Maya and her brother from the police was fantastic. More Mr. Muggles!

Oh yeah! And nice nod to watchman with the smiley face coffee mug! Made me smile!

[Corey Dreher]

I think that we are being set up in 2 ways:

Peter is going to keep picking up powers and being hugely powerful, and the others have to band together to stop him, including Sylar.

HRG is going from the caring father that we are witnessing now back to the evil creep he was originally portrayed as.

That last lingering stare when HRG says an uncomfortable good night to claire was very powerful, hes like I know something secret about you and shes like I know some secrets about you, and you can see that mistrust in their eyes...


I'm not sure with Peter, with that evil Sylar grin, it made me sit there with unease, but I think with the Irish chick, he'll eventually get through it.

I also think that the reaosn why HRG looked at Claire like that, because he's convinced that Claire was in that picture with him dead, and when she came in looking so deathly, and what not, he knew that his death is already starting in the works.

[kmeyers]

Is it me, or are the special effects when people use their powers kind of crappy looking this season?

The flying kid with Claire looked terrible. The shapeshifting/illusions were pretty bad too, they looked like amateur green screening. Especially when she morphed into different people.

I'm already sick of the twins who just can't seem to stay together for the life of them. Her bleeding eyes look bad too.

Sylar is still awesome. Great villain. I hope he gets his powers back soon, or he's screwed out in the middle of nowhere.

[Chiasm]

Some of the cut scenes just felt flat, and I am convinced that Hiro is doing an impersonation of Jar Jar Binks.

Hey quit stealing my nickname. :D

Just kidding.

But if you check the thread on last season's Heroes you'll see that I immediately nicknamed him Jar Jar Hiro and thats how I've referred to him ever since.

[mattx110]

Is it me, or are the special effects when people use their powers kind of crappy looking this season?

The flying kid with Claire looked terrible. The shapeshifting/illusions were pretty bad too, they looked like amateur green screening. Especially when she morphed into different people.

I'm already sick of the twins who just can't seem to stay together for the life of them. Her bleeding eyes look bad too.

Sylar is still awesome. Great villain. I hope he gets his powers back soon, or he's screwed out in the middle of nowhere.

i thought the obvious CGI added a nice alice in wonderland effect.

and last season hiro had to move stuff physically when stopping time. now he can telaport whatever he wants whenever he feels like. but his time-travel ability is still tied to his state of mind.

[Tazirai]

Is it me, or are the special effects when people use their powers kind of crappy looking this season?

The flying kid with Claire looked terrible. The shapeshifting/illusions were pretty bad too, they looked like amateur green screening. Especially when she morphed into different people.

I'm already sick of the twins who just can't seem to stay together for the life of them. Her bleeding eyes look bad too.

Sylar is still awesome. Great villain. I hope he gets his powers back soon, or he's screwed out in the middle of nowhere.

They are trying to cash in on the fame of the show it seems. By moving the special effects to the background like Fantastic four , and the newer heroes to the fore. Bad and Classic mistake. What made Heroes great last year was good story telling, Flashes of Power being used and The Quality, not the quantity.

Fantastic Four for Example, looked great in FF1, FF2 looked horrible. Except the Surfer.

[KenK]

Thank God Sylar killed Candace 2.0. I usually have a think for thick-bodied redheads, but she had nothing on Missy Peregrym. And so, she turned out to be a major fatty in her true form, after all. I wonder why Sylar can't use her power, though.

[kmeyers]

Thank God Sylar killed Candace 2.0. I usually have a think for thick-bodied redheads, but she had nothing on Missy Peregrym. And so, she turned out to be a major fatty in her true form, after all. I wonder why Sylar can't use her power, though.

I assume he still has access to all of the powers he's stolen, he just can't use them because he's still to weak, or that island/middle of nowhere forrest has something to do with it.

Candace told him that he would be back to normal in time, and the people she works for are obviously keeping an eye on him. So, maybe they have some way to mute his powers, like someone or something like the Haitian.

Or he's going to run into some of the characters from Lost soon...

[saintsaucey]

And that whole scene at the end where Mr. Muggles comes in to save Maya and her brother from the police was fantastic. More Mr. Muggles!


seriusly...did i miss that

[IamtheRock3]

I assume he still has access to all of the powers he's stolen, he just can't use them because he's still to weak, or that island/middle of nowhere forrest has something to do with it.

Candace told him that he would be back to normal in time, and the people she works for are obviously keeping an eye on him. So, maybe they have some way to mute his powers, like someone or something like the Haitian.

Or he's going to run into some of the characters from Lost soon...


or it could be killing candence was an illusion

[Zucchini]

Hey quit stealing my nickname. :D

Just kidding.

But if you check the thread on last season's Heroes you'll see that I immediately nicknamed him Jar Jar Hiro and thats how I've referred to him ever since.

I thought I read that somewhere...it was such a good characterization it must of stuck in my ole brain! 8 )