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Augie De Blieck Jr.
09-17-2007, 09:25 PM
In this week's column, I ask a question out loud. I want to include some of your responses in the column next week. So consider this the official response thread.

You'll see what I mean when the column goes up tomorrow. It also includes reviews of the JLA WEDDING SPECIAL, MARVEL COMICS PRESENTS #1, and SUICIDE SQUAD #1.

-Augie

stinkbrown
09-18-2007, 07:35 AM
This is a very good question, how many comic creators do ou really own work from...? It really made me look at what I have and what that may or may not say about me.

I don't have the hugest collection, but it was interesting to see who rated the highest.

Being a huge Daredevil fan has skewed some results,
Brian Michael Bendis has his DD run, plus DD: Ninja, then Alias, Fire Goldfish and one Vol of New Avengers. So I guess he scores highly, though I wouldn't really rate him one of my favourite authors at all. Interesting to see he puts out some awesome and consistent work, and I clearly have heaps of his work, but he is nowhere near my fave scribe.

I also have a large stack of Anne Nocenti's DD run, and am sure I have a few other titles she worked on but nothing comes to mind.

Frank Miller's two DD runs are there, as are some old Spidey's, some Marvel Two for one, Sin City, Elektra Lives Again, Wolverine and Dark Knight. I have spent some cash on him but do not rate him at the top either. I'm sure I'll be the only person in the world who will say that his Born Again run was awesome, for 5 issues and then ended kinda crazy and weird. I wasn't a fan of the whole Nuke angle at all, but the start was genius...

Ed Brubaker has some DD there, plus 3 vols of Sleeper, the first Gotham Central, a Catwoman, A Complete Lowlife, The Deadboy Detectives, The Immortal Iron Fist and Criminal. Not as much as some of the others but I completely rate his work! Haven't even hit his Cap or Shi'ar work yet...

Robert Kirkman (the genius) holds his own on my shelves! All of the Walking Dead, Irredeemable Ant-Man, Invincible, Marvel Zombies and Astounding Wolf-Man. I love his work, always everytime, and still have some to get through, which is a pleasure to slowly chew through!

David Michelinie has some for his entire Venom and Spidey runs! I always was a sucker for a good symbiote!

Garth Ennis has some space with the entire Preacher, with specials, and The Boys, and a story in a Bart Simpson's Treehouse of Horror!

Brian K Vaughan has some with all Y: The Last Man and Doc Strange's Oath. I find that he is the newest writer that I have come to love, and I only stumbled across him through his myspace page and liked how he wrote so took a chance and it completely paid off, which is also why I messaged Robert Kirkman and asked him to use his page more as it is such a great venue to getting new fans!

I would have a huge swag of Jack Davis, Graeme Engells, Wally Wood and co through their different EC comics, most of which I have is Vault of Horror, the ole vaultkeeper always kicked the crypt keeper's ass in my books!

I have heaps of the Peter David Hulk's, Mark Gruenwald's Cap and Simonsons' X-Factor. And a bunch of Doug Moench's work in old school Moon KNight, some random Batman's and a Toxic Avenger...ugh!

I guess I would have to say that Bendis, and Miller rank highest in actual issues, but I would prefer to read Brubaker or Kirkman any day of the week! And Vaughan is coming along, but I need time to buy more, plus money!

This has also got me thinking....which character do I have the most of.
DD rates the highest, with close to 250 or more issues of assorted stuff!
Closely followed by a lot of Venom issues, with an almost tied third place with Yorick and Rick Grimes!

goman
09-18-2007, 08:20 AM
You left Hiroaki Samura off your list, at least I'm assuming so if you have all the Blade of the Immortal trades. I guess he'd only fit in the artist category, although Writer/Artists kind of go in thier own category. Take Jeff Smith for instance, who would be 16 issues short by my count, unless you counted buy things multiple times, in which case he would make my list. Anyway, splitting hairs. I'll have to think about this. I'm sure I'll miss someone, but at least it gives me something to do at work besides actual work.

skyw1se
09-18-2007, 11:04 AM
I think this will do a lot for knowing the age range of your readers....Just looking at writers, I have very few of the current guard on here...but with their output, they should make it in no time...

588 Roy Thomas...The work he did on the X-men and the Avengers when Stan left are still some of my favorite runs of any title...His early Conan stories that are being reprinted by Dark Horse are something completely different and it really speaks to his talent that a book like that survived.

424 Stan Lee...nothing much to be said here...I expect this number will go up as I continue to track down old titles...

364 Mark Waid. He truly has done just about everything for the majors and he has done all of it with respect...If anyone were to overtake Roy Thomas, I would it expect it to be Mark.

287 Chris Claremont. I loved his X-men stuff up until it basically turned into a monthly mutant body count. I think the characters were lost at that point and I walked away without ever going back. But when Chris was good, he was great...and he did write some of the best women characters at the time...

259 Roger Stern. I wish I could say this number keeps going up. I don't know why he is persona non gratis any more but I believe that either of the big 2 could use his classic storytelling style. He writes solid and fun stories...hey if Marv Wolfman could make a come back, then the time is right for Roger...

254 Geoff Johns..I was very nervous when David Goyer was leaving JSA to this guy I had never heard of, but Geoff quickly showed why he is the best of the current writers bar none...

253 Dan Jurgens
232 Kurt Busiek
217 Jim Starlin

Mark Gruenwald is the last in the 200+ crew and I really believe that is only because of his passing. If Mark had made it, I am confident this number would be over 300....the man was just what Captain America needed at the time, stability and a clear vision...Even better than his work there was his work with Squadron Supreme...that was genius...

bh123
09-18-2007, 11:52 AM
MARVEL COMICS PRESENTS!!! Now that brings back memories. I got my letterhacking start in that book... and boy did I write some really bad letters back then. Well, I was in high school ;)

Funny thing, Augie, as I recall, Cable catually only showed up for one story, an eight-part team-up with Ghost Rider. It was GR and Wolverine who became the two regulars.

Oh, yeah, and for a time Iron Fist had a bunch of stories in MCP, most of which were, um, well, forgettable, to say the least. Yeah, it was like Marvel was desperately attempting to burn through every single Iron Fist inventory story they had ever bought.

Once I got into original comic book artwork, of course I ended up seeking out pages from MCP stories. I still have most of those. And when I saw the originals, I realized just how cheap the coloring was on MCP, especially for the last few years. In black & white, the stuff looked sooooo much better than it did printed in color.

Anyway, I still have fond memories of the series. I don't know how much of that is due to nostalgia, and how much to the book actually having decent material in it, but it makes up a significant chunk of my teenage years collecting comic books.

goman
09-18-2007, 12:43 PM
Here's the list that I came up with off the top of my head:

Dave Sim - Writer/Artist - Since I have the whole run of Cerebus he gets in under both.

Gerhard - Artist - Get's in with Cerebus.

John Romita Jr. - Artist - I'm kind of assuming here, but between all the stuff he's done, I'm pretty sure I have at least 75 issues of his. I may be a little short.

Mark Bagley - Artist - Definetly because of Ultimate Spider-man, but also most of his run on Amazing.

Brian Michael Bendis - Writer - between U Spidey and Powers and New Avengers, get's in easy. Easily the most prolific writer of the last five years.

Eduardo Risso - Artist - 100 Bullets get's it. Also his short Batman run is the only other thing I have from him.

Frank Miller - Artist easy/Close on writer - Easily gets in on art between Daredevil, Dark Knight, 300 and Sin City. Got to be close on writing when you count in Sin City, All Star, 300 most of his stuff.

Fabian Nicieza - Writer - This is another one I'm kind of assuming on. he did write a lot of stuff in the early to mid 90's, but the only one that sticks out to me is X-force, but that's not enough. I'd have to really look through to see if he actually got in.

Andy Kubert - Artist - Between his X-men run, Batman/Predator, 1602, Origin, Ultimate Iron Man, he should have enough. Adam is probably close but I don't have as much of his stuff.

And know we get into the manga section:

Hiroaki Samura - Artist - Going from the american issues of Blade of the Immortal. May end up in the writing column before too long. What are they in the 120's of the Dark Horse issues?

Masashi Kishimoto - Writer/Artist - Creator of Naruto, which I have through volume 18, so it's certainly enough for artist and probably enough for writer, although I'm not going to bother to count pages.

Takeshi Obata - Artist - Between Death Note and Hikaru No Go, he's got to have enough pages.

Yoshihiro Togashi - Artist/Writer - 16 volumes of Hunter x Hunter, and 12 of Yu Yu Hakusho gets this one.

Kazuki Takahashi - Artist/Writer - Over 30 volumes of Yu gi Oh gets him easily on art and writing. It's easy for manga creators to rack up huge page counts especially since most fo the stuff I'm reading today came out many years ago.

Kazuo Koike - Writer - Another easy one, with Lone Wolf and Cub, and also Crying Freeman.

Goseki Kojima - Artist - Same as you, in on Lone Wolf. I don't have enough of his other stuff though. Need to get Samurai Executioner.

Those were the one's I can think of and be sure of. Geoff Johns has to be pretty close with JSA and Green Lantern and Infinite Crisis, but I'm guessing he's a bit short. Same with Busiek, Waid, Claremont is getting close on the strength of picking up Essential X-men volumes. Morrison I have a feeling is close if I counted 52 seperatly for each writer. Jim Cheung by my head math is between 10-20 issues away from 75, depending on how many issues of Scion he did for Crossgen. 200 issues though is a lot when you really think about it, which makes Bendis seem very accomplished for what he's done. He's very much a modern day Stan Lee in terms of output.

bh123
09-18-2007, 08:54 PM
In answer to your question, actually, in the last several years, I don't think there is a single comic book creator that I've liked so much that I will continually buy any & all projects they work on. I'm just not that interested in that many series nowadays. Offhand, the only one I can think of is...

ERIK LARSEN - I have every single issue of Savage Dragon, all of the miniseries, practically all of the related spin-offs & tie-ins, plus I have the majority of the Spider-Man issues he worked on, and his Aquaman run, and most of Defenders, and I've actively sought out a lot of back issues that he's done, and I even have some of his early stuff from AC, and back in the 90s I won copies of a few issues of Graphic Fantasy, so, yeah, I must have most of the stuff he's done, but obviously not all of it.

panjisudoyo
09-19-2007, 01:53 AM
The creators whom i have the most in my collection seem to be :

- John Romita JR : I'm basically a Marvel guy, so i suppose it's not surprising that this guy comes to mind instantly. Lemmesee, asides from his work on Amazing Spidey already mentioned, i've got his Eternals work, the Sentry mini-series, his Hulk run with Bruce Jones, Daredevil : Man Without Fear mini-series, Wolverine, and of course, his current run of World War Hulk. I think he easily passes the 75 mark for my collection.

- Frank Miller : Being a huge fan of his work since his DD days, i've got his Sin City ( Complete sets or collected editions of The Big Fat Kill, The Hard Goodbye, That Yellow Bastard, Hell and Back, A Dame to Kill For, Just Another Saturday Night, etc ) work, 300, The Dark Knight Returns, The Dark Knight Strikes Again, most of his Daredevil run, some Spidey annuals, Batman : Year One, All-Star Batman & Robin and a few Spectacular Spidey titles which puts him among the top of the most prolific creators in my collection ( both as writer AND artist )

- Bill Willingham : Simply Fable-ous!!

- Mark Buckingham : Ditto.

- Garth Ennis : like stinkbrown, i have a complete Preacher collection ( including the minis and specials ), a large amount of Hitman, The Boys, the recent Punisher titles, Ghost Rider, Hellblazer, etc..I usually try anything he puts out and eventually keep on buying. The man is a genius!!..

- Steve Dillon : lemmesee, the entire run of Preacher ( plus a special ), A hefty amount of Hellblazer and, of course, the Punisher puts him way above the 75-issue mark for me..The guy is consistent as hell..Too bad i can't stand his Wolvie : Origins, though..

- Andy Kubert : The most notable that comes to mind are his Ultimate X-Men stuff, 1602, Batman/Predator, Origin, Ka-zar, Ultimate Iron Man, a few issues of Captain America, his OTHER X-Men work from the 90's and Batman. i think he also gets the nod as one of the most prolific artist in my collection.

- Brian K. Vaughan : Ultimate X-Men, Pride of Baghdad, and certainly, Y : The Last Man puts him in decent contention for most prolific writer..I gotta check again if i have anymore stuff written by him somewhere.

- Mark Millar : Same as Garth Ennis, i follow this guy religiously, which means i think he's close to reaching 200, if not already passed it, since i've got the likes of Wanted, Civil War, Wolverine, Marvel Knights Spiderman, Ultimates, Ultimate X-Men, the Authority, etc..

- Grant Morrison : His entire JLA run, WE3, All-Star Superman, New X-Men, several issues of the Flash, JLA : Earth 2 ( he always work magic with Frank Quitely..Another creator that i like to follow ), Arkham Asylum, the Invisibles vol. 1, and a bunch of other Vertigo stuff, such as on Weird War Tales and Hellblazer gives any writer in my collection a run for his money..

- Warren Ellis : I also follow his twisted mind any chance i get ( what's up with these Brits anyhoo?..Ennis, Millar, Morrison, Ellis..Man, they're MY Fantastic Four )..I've got the entire Transmetropolitan set, most of his excellent Planetary work, some JLA : Classified issues, his entire Authority run, Black Summer ( which i've just picked up ), Thunderbolts, a Stormwatch TPB, Nextwave, Wolverine # 119-122, Ultimate Nightmare and Ultimate Secret so he's probably right up there as well..

- Brian Michael Bendis : If you collect Marvel in this day and age then there's a good chance that you've got some of his work one way or another in your collection.. For me, it's his Daredevil run, Avengers Disassembled, Secret War, a whole lot of New Avengers, Mighty Avengers, Illuminati, Ultimate Spidey, Ultimate Marvel Team-Up, Ultimate X-Men, Powers TPB Vol.1 and the most recent addition, Halo:Uprising..It's a safe bet that he passes the 200 issues mark.

- John Cassaday is slowly reaching the 75-issue mark, i think, with 27 issues of Planetary and 20-odd issues of Astonishing X-Men added with his Captain America run and his Planetary/Batman special in my collection..If only he wasn't so slow..But hey, quality trumps quantity anytime..

- Ed Brubaker is slowly inching his way up to the top as well, with his work on Captain America, the Books of Doom mini-series, Iron Fist, Daredevil, X-men : Deadly Genesis, and Sleeper..He is almost as prolific as Bendis in the Marvel camp.

i guess that's it for now...i'll try to add some more once my brain stops melting. :)

panjisudoyo
09-19-2007, 01:55 AM
The creators whom i have the most in my collection seem to be :

- John Romita JR : I'm basically a Marvel guy, so i suppose it's not surprising that this guy comes to mind instantly. Lemmesee, asides from his work on Amazing Spidey already mentioned, i've got his Eternals work, the Sentry mini-series, his Hulk run with Bruce Jones, Daredevil : Man Without Fear mini-series, Wolverine, and of course, his current run of World War Hulk. I think he easily passes the 75 mark for my collection.

- Frank Miller : Being a huge fan of his work since his DD days, i've got his Sin City ( Complete sets or collected editions of The Big Fat Kill, The Hard Goodbye, That Yellow Bastard, Hell and Back, A Dame to Kill For, Just Another Saturday Night, etc ) work, 300, The Dark Knight Returns, The Dark Knight Strikes Again, most of his Daredevil run, some Spidey annuals, Batman : Year One, All-Star Batman & Robin and a few Spectacular Spidey titles which puts him among the top of the most prolific creators in my collection ( both as writer AND artist )

- Bill Willingham : Simply Fable-ous!!

- Mark Buckingham : Ditto.

- Garth Ennis : like stinkbrown, i have a complete Preacher collection ( including the minis and specials ), a large amount of Hitman, The Boys, the recent Punisher titles, Ghost Rider, Hellblazer, etc..I usually try anything he puts out and eventually keep on buying. The man is a genius!!..

- Steve Dillon : lemmesee, the entire run of Preacher ( plus a special ), A hefty amount of Hellblazer and, of course, the Punisher puts him way above the 75-issue mark for me..The guy is consistent as hell..Too bad i can't stand his Wolvie : Origins, though..

- Andy Kubert : The most notable that comes to mind are his Ultimate X-Men stuff, 1602, Batman/Predator, Origin, Ka-zar, Ultimate Iron Man, a few issues of Captain America, his OTHER X-Men work from the 90's and Batman. i think he also gets the nod as one of the most prolific artist in my collection.

- Brian K. Vaughan : Ultimate X-Men, Pride of Baghdad, and certainly, Y : The Last Man puts him in decent contention for most prolific writer..I gotta check again if i have anymore stuff written by him somewhere.

- Mark Millar : Same as Garth Ennis, i follow this guy religiously, which means i think he's close to reaching 200, if not already passed it, since i've got the likes of Wanted, Civil War, Wolverine, Marvel Knights Spiderman, Ultimates, Ultimate X-Men, the Authority, etc..

- Grant Morrison : His entire JLA run, WE3, All-Star Superman, New X-Men, several issues of the Flash, JLA : Earth 2 ( he always work magic with Frank Quitely..Another creator that i like to follow ), Arkham Asylum, the Invisibles vol. 1, and a bunch of other Vertigo stuff, such as on Weird War Tales and Hellblazer gives any writer in my collection a run for his money..

- Warren Ellis : I also follow his twisted mind any chance i get ( what's up with these Brits anyhoo?..Ennis, Millar, Morrison, Ellis..Man, they're MY Fantastic Four )..I've got the entire Transmetropolitan set, most of his excellent Planetary work, some JLA : Classified issues, his entire Authority run, Black Summer ( which i've just picked up ), Thunderbolts, a Stormwatch TPB, Nextwave, Wolverine # 119-122, Ultimate Nightmare and Ultimate Secret so he's probably right up there as well..

- Brian Michael Bendis : If you collect Marvel in this day and age then there's a good chance that you've got some of his work one way or another in your collection.. For me, it's his Daredevil run, Avengers Disassembled, Secret War, a whole lot of New Avengers, Mighty Avengers, Illuminati, Ultimate Spidey, Ultimate Marvel Team-Up, Ultimate X-Men, Powers TPB Vol.1 and the most recent addition, Halo:Uprising..It's a safe bet that he passes the 200 issues mark.

- John Cassaday is slowly reaching the 75-issue mark, i think, with 27 issues of Planetary and 20-odd issues of Astonishing X-Men added with his Captain America run and his Planetary/Batman special in my collection..If only he wasn't so slow..But hey, quality trumps quantity anytime..

- Ed Brubaker is slowly inching his way up to the top as well, with his work on Captain America, the Books of Doom mini-series, Iron Fist, Daredevil, X-men : Deadly Genesis, and Sleeper..He is almost as prolific as Bendis in the Marvel camp.

i guess that's it for now...i'll try to add some more once my brain stops melting. :)

panjisudoyo
09-19-2007, 01:57 AM
Other worthy mentions :
- Geoff Johns : DC can't survive without him.
- George Perez : not only does he draw A LOT, but he draws them in detail as well ( on time too!! )..Something that he can still certainly teach to the younger artists of today.
- Mark Waid & Kurt Busiek : These guys have been everywhere, on both sides of the Marvel/DC fence, and done some magical work as well such as Kingdom Come and Marvels.

panjisudoyo
09-19-2007, 02:03 AM
For some reason, my computer started to have a malfunction and the error resulted in my multiple posts somehow..Aplogies for that..Heh..By the way, i wanted to delete 'em but i'm encountering problems with that as well so i'll just give this explanation then..

goman
09-19-2007, 06:54 AM
Oh, I forgot Steve Dillon. Between Preacher and Hellblazer, I've got enough for him. Need to pick up his Punisher arc too. And BKV is another writer who may be a touch under 200 but certainly close, and may be on thanks to Y, Ex Machina, and Runaways, and Ultimate X men.

pmpknface
09-19-2007, 01:43 PM
Oh dear lord... I've got 15,000 + books and I wouldn't know how to even begin a count like this! :eek:

torippu
09-19-2007, 03:18 PM
Hmm, 200 issues for writers and 75 issues for artists in my collection? That’s a good question. Looking through my long boxes, here is who I think would qualify for this distinction:

Writers
Bendis – Nothing new to add here. He has been Marvel-Man since the beginning of 2000.
Chuck Dixon – I divested myself of much of my Robin run a couple of years ago, but at one time, his Batman & Detective Comics, Robin, Nightwing, Birds of Prey and Crossgen work qualified him for this honor.

I do have a couple of writers that I am not sure qualify at this time:
J.M. DeMatteis – Does he get credit for scripting Keith Giffen’s plots? With his Justice League and Spider-Man runs over the years, it is possible that he has more than 200 issues in my collection but don’t quote me on that.
Geoff Johns – Stars-N-Stripe + The Flash + Teen Titans + Green Lantern may get him close to the 200 issue threshold.

Artists
Erik Larsen – Punisher + Amazing Spider-Man + Savage Dragon
John Romita Jr. – Uncanny X-Men + Punisher War Zone + various Spider-Man books through the years
Mark Bagley – New Warriors + Amazing Spider-Man + Ultimate Spider-Man = 200+ issues.
Eduardo Risso – 100 Bullets for the win!
Scott McDaniel – His runs on Daredevil + Nightwing + Batman should be enough
Alex Saviuk – he must have penciled at least 75 Web of Spider-Man issues, right?
Sal Buscema – Our pal Sal was on Spectacular Spider-Man for what seemed like forever and I have a ton of those issues.

Looking at this list, it’s apparent that I don’t follow as many writers as I like to think I do. It’s more about the character (in particular Spider-Man) for me.

De Carabas
09-19-2007, 07:09 PM
This is going to take more than one post, since the library is closing in six minutes.

I'm working off of memory and comics purchased. Majority of my collection is still in my mom's house and I've donated so many comics in the past that I'm never 100% sure of what I still own any more.

Which writers do we have at least 200 comics (roughly 4400 pages) written by?
*Chris Claremont--By far the winner. I may own more by others but this man made the 200 list before I had even heard of most of who is to follow.
*Peter David--As I write this, I think PAD might beat Claremont in numbers. *Chuck Dixon--Looking back, I think I may own even more by Dixon than I originally thought.
*Brian Michael Bendis--A no-brainer for me.
*Stan Lee--Marvel Tales, Essentials, and Masterworks did most of the legwork for me on this one, but I'm surprised more people don't have him on their list, too.

I own *ALOT* by Ellis, Busiek, Waid, Nicieza, and Michelinie but I would have to seriously sit down and add it all up to see if each one reaches the 200 mark.

Artists next post.

EM

Althalus
09-20-2007, 06:15 AM
American floppies. There's about 2400 in my collection, but by many different creators. Who stands out? No writers with 200+ issues, but some artists with 75+:

Fred Perry - Gold Digger alone is about 150 issues (1 missing)
Stan Sakai - Usagi Yojimbo is about 160 issues (11 missing)

Everything else is at the 30-50 issue range, at the most. I don't do super-heroes very much, so I don't read many of the really prolific writers. Not even J. Torres, even though I noticed recently that his name appears on quite a few comics in my collection. But he's about the only pure writer in my collection I even recognize.


Manga. Now here's a bit more, in my 2200 volumes. 1650 pages equal about 9 regular volumes. There are quite a few creators above that threshold, so I'll only list the 20+ ones and only counting translated volumes:

Rumiko Takahashi - 103 volumes in 6 series (Maison Ikkoku, Ranma, Inu Yasha, UY, etc.) plus a few one shots
Tsukasa Hojo - 67 volumes in 6 series (City Hunter, Family Compo, Angel Heart, etc.)
Akira Toriyama - 63 volumes in 2 series (Dragon Ball and Dr. Slump) plus a few one-shots
Mitsuru Adachi - 59 volumes in 7 series (Rough, Touch, Katsu, etc.)
Takada Yuzo - 43 volumes in 3 series (3x3 Eyes, Booking Life and Genzo)
Wataru Yoshizumi - 35 volumes in 7 series (Ultra Maniac, Marmalade Boy, etc.)
Kosuke Fujishima - 26 volumes (Oh My Goddess)
Takeshi Obata - 26 volumes in 2 series (Hikaru no Go and Lamp)
Yoko Kamio - 25 volumes (Hana Yori Dango)
Osamu Tezuka - 24 volumes in 6 series (Nanairo Inko, Vampires, Ludwig B, Don Dracula, etc.) plus a few one-shots
Goshou Aoyama - 23 volumes in 3 series (Detective Conan, Kaito Kid and Yaiba)
Kazuhiro Fujita - 20 volumes (Karakuri Circus)
Yoshihiro Togashi - 20 volumes in 2 series (Yu Yu Hakusho and Hunter x Hunter)


~Althalus

Deathstroke
09-20-2007, 06:26 AM
Peter David's work easily fills 3 longboxes for me.

Greg Rucka is probably the next highest, but he's not over 200. I would really have to go through my collection, and unfortunately that's not something I have time for at the moment.

De Carabas
09-20-2007, 10:06 AM
I think I had waaaay too much caffeine yesterday, because I was up all night doing comic book math in my head. :o

Writers II
*Ellis--Does clear the 200, with room to spare.
*Busiek--Like Ellis, clears 200.
*Nicieza--If you read Marvel in the 90s, I don't see how he can't be on someone's list.
*Waid--Don't know what I was thinking. Yeah, he clears the 200.
*Rucka--I grossly underestimated the length of time he spent on the Bat-books.
*Brubaker--I didn't realize he had cleared the mark, but he has and I don't see him slowing down any time soon.
*Sim--While I haven't read them all, I own all but the last two phonebooks.



Stern and Michelinie come close, but don't quite make it. I really wish Marvel would collect Michelinie & Layton's early Iron Man run. I have enough issues from that era to know I want to at least read the rest.
John Byrne also comes very close, but I just never got into his Fantastic Four, which would have done the trick.
Gerry Conway probably makes it on the strength of his various Spider-Man runs, but I'm not motivated enough to actually do the count.

I wonder how many more are going to flood into mind as soon as I submit this. :rolleyes:

EM

De Carabas
09-20-2007, 02:15 PM
Augie,

How do we count 52? Do Johns, Morrison, Rucka, and Waid get 52 issues credited toward their 200? Does Giffen get pencilling credit for 52 issues?

:p

EM

torippu
09-20-2007, 02:24 PM
Augie,

How do we count 52? Do Johns, Morrison, Rucka, and Waid get 52 issues credited toward their 200? Does Giffen get pencilling credit for 52 issues?

:p

EM

Good question Eric!

goman
09-20-2007, 02:49 PM
I'd say it's just easiest to count 52 issues each for the main writers. Don't ask me about Giffen's art credits. My only logic is if you don't count them as 52 for each, you start getting into a 50/50 split on Giffen/DeMatteis JLI, split on Immortal Iron Fist, some kind of crazy fraction for anyone working on MCP. Although it's not like it's a very scientific process we're following here, so you can do it any way you want. It's not like Augie's going to go to everyone's house to verify the count. :D

Cause then everyone would have to reveal they have over 75 issues drawn by Rob Liefeld.

Augie De Blieck Jr.
09-20-2007, 05:01 PM
Ron and I had this 52 discussion last week. I worked it out that the four writers worked together on all the issues and, in my warped math, thus deserve 1/4 credit for each. Thus, 52 is 13 issues per writer.

At the same time, though, I'd give Giffen and DeMatteis full credit for a book apiece in all their collaborations.

But, hey, this is all for fun. Make up your own rules as you go along!

I'd give Giffen credit for all the 52/Countdown issues he lays out. His layouts are insane.

And, yes, I might very well own 75 issues of Liefeld art - Captain America, Youngblood, New Mutants, Uncanny X-Men (one issue), uhm uhm. Various mini-series and one shots.

Well, maybe not 75 exactly.

-Augie

De Carabas
09-20-2007, 08:33 PM
Don't forget that Amazing Spider-Man annual with She-Hulk and the Abomination.

God, I'm so ashamed. We need an emoticon with a paperbag on its head.

EM

Augie De Blieck Jr.
09-21-2007, 04:56 AM
Oh, yeah, thanks for reminding me. I'll add in HAWK AND DOVE and his MARVEL COMICS PRESENTS work, while we're at it. But those aren't quite so wonderfully obscure.

Was that the annual during the Atlantis Attacks! summer?

-Augie

dancj
09-21-2007, 06:27 AM
I have all of the Asterix Books and by my calculation that's 33x48 = 1584 pages - so Alberto Uderzo doesn't quite make it.

Herge nearly does but my Tinitin collection isn't complete.

Here's my list:

WRITERS
Brian Bendis - Ultimate Spider-Man, Daredevil, Alias, Pulse, Goldfish, Alias, Torso and more. He breezes it.
Warren Ellis - Transmetropolitan, Stormwatch, Authority, Planetary etc...
Garth Ennis - Preacher, Just a Pilgrim, Hitman, Hellblazer, Punisher etc...
Frank Miller - I've got just about everything of his that's made it into trade (plus a few bits that didn't) which probably between them make up just about everything he's ever done - and he just makes it by my calculations.
Alan Moore - I've got everything of his that's ever made it into TPB.
Grant Morrison - Ditto (I think)
Dave Sim - I've got teh first 11 or 12 Cerebus books
Cary Bates - Most of the Superman comics published from the mid-70's until the reboot + Captain Atom + Silverblade
Alan Grant - Batman comics alone should do this one. Also Demon, Lobo minis, 2000ad work...
Keith Giffen - I think his JLI, Ambush Bug, Ragman, LoSH and Battle Royale.

Maybes:
Chuck Dixon - Batman, Nightwing, Birds of Prey - I think he's borderline
Peter Milligan - X-Force/Statix, Shade the Changing Man, Batman, Human Target, Skreemer, Johnny Nemo, Enigma etc...


ARTISTS
Mike Allred - Madman, Atomics, Red Rocket 7 and X-Force/Staix
Sergio Aragones - Groo plus other stuff
Norm Breyfogle - Batman, Batman and more Batman.
Steve Dillon - Preacher alone does it. Animal Man makes it a breeze.
Frank Miller - With ease
Dave Sim - He makes it as a writer and he drew practically all of that!
Myung-Jin Lee - For Ragnarok alone - even though I bought them in one go and will probably sell them soon.
Katsuriru Otomo - Akira plus other bits.
Hiroaki Samura - Just makes it for Plade of the Immortal and Ohikoshi
Masayuki Taguchi - For Battle Royale
Osamu Tezuka - Buddha and Astro Boy
Curt Swan - Most of the Superman comics published from the mid-70's until the reboot
Mark Buckingham - Fables, Shade the Changing Man, Miracleman plus other bits.

Maybes
John Byrne - I think he'll make it for his Superman, Next Men and other bits.
Peter Gross - For Lucifer, Dr Fate and other bits.

Oooh - Whoever drew Eagle and GTO probably make it too although I haven't read them yet

bh123
09-21-2007, 08:21 AM
Was that the annual during the Atlantis Attacks! summer?


Yep, it was. Weird coincidence... just last weekend I was up at my parents' house in fairfield CT for the Jewish New Year. I dug out a whole bunch of back issues from the basement to read while I was there, including all the annuals I had for Evolutionary War and Atlantis Attacks. So, yeah, I just re-read that ASM annual a week ago.

I cannot believe those issues came out nearly twenty years ago. Where does the time go?!?

torippu
09-21-2007, 10:07 AM
Oh, yeah, thanks for reminding me. I'll add in HAWK AND DOVE and his MARVEL COMICS PRESENTS work, while we're at it. But those aren't quite so wonderfully obscure.

-Augie

I have those HAWK & DOVE issues in my collection as well. Also, for most of us long time readers, why does it always seem like those issues are always at our parent's house? I know that I've got about 10 long boxes of stuff sitting in a closet back in Georgia.

Augie De Blieck Jr.
09-21-2007, 04:28 PM
I hereby make an official exemption for Albert Uderzo. 1500 pages is good enough for him, by Toutatis!

-Augie

De Carabas
09-21-2007, 10:02 PM
Time for artists, which is tougher for me in some ways, since I mainly buy for the writer. So some artists I adore won't make this list while some I'm not at all fond of do. But then I guess that is the nature of comics, eh?

ARTISTS
Favorites and easy ones first
Jack Kirby--Literally the first artist I thought of when I read the column.
Mark Bagely--New Warriors, Amazing Spider-Man, Thunderbolts, Ultimate Spider-Man = Slam-dunk.
Humberto Ramos--I don't think there is an American comic of his that I don't own
Sergio Aragones--I may not have been with Groo long enough for him to make the writer qualification, but artist is another matter
Stan Sakai--See above, but substitute Usagi for Groo
Terry Moore--Strangers in Paradise, Paradise Too
Eduardo Risso--100 Bullets
John Byrne--Uncanny X-Men, Next Men, She-Hulk, Hulk, Avengers West Coast, OMAC
Frank Miller--Despite the strength of his career, I didn't think he had actually reached the 200/75 requirement, but if others are listing him...
Todd McFarlane--Hulk, both Spider-Man books, Spawn
Peter Gross--Books of Magic, Lucifer


The ones I'm not so proud or indifferent toward of
Sal Buscema--Spectacular Spider-Man, Hulk, and a million other Marvel books
Steve Dillion--Preacher, Hellblazer
Darrick Robertson--New Warriors, Transmetropolitan, Wolverine


The ones that are damn close, if they are there already
John Cassady--Desperadoes, Planetary, Captain America, Astonishing X-Men
John Buscema--Now this man's work I love, but he hasn't always been on books I've followed

Lost Internet connection during this post and came back too tired to finish, although it is pretty damn long as is.

EM

De Carabas
09-23-2007, 08:42 AM
Talking with Patricia about the new show, Torchwood, and I remembered an artist I left out.

Guy Davis--Between Sandman Mystery Theater, The Marquis, Deadline, and B.P.R.D., the inimitable Mr. Davis makes my list.

and that reminded me of one more,

Alan Davis--Given that he was in Augie's column, I honestly don't know why he wasn't in my last post. :confused:

and then I thought of

Neal Adams--The Complete Neal Adams Batman vol. 1-3, Marvel Masterworks X-Men

One artist I love, but I don't think makes the cut-off mark is
Rick Leonardi--Spider-Man 2099, Nightwing, Cloak & Dagger, various issues of X-Men and Spider-Man

EM

torippu
09-23-2007, 11:11 AM
Talking with Patricia about the new show, Torchwood, and I remembered an artist I left out.
How is Torchwood? I've had all of the eps on my computer but have never gotten around to watching it. I've heard that it ranges from good to bad.

Guy Davis--Between Sandman Mystery Theater, The Marquis, Deadline, and B.P.R.D., the inimitable Mr. Davis makes my list.

EM
My Guy Davis stuff is limited to The Realm and BPRD so I don't think that I have the requisite number of issues for him to qualify. If he continues on as the BPRD artist and then he'll be good in a couple of years.

dancj
09-24-2007, 05:59 AM
Frank Miller--Despite the strength of his career, I didn't think he had actually reached the 200/75 requirement, but if others are listing him...
He probably doesn't make it purely on number of issues, but he often does larger issues and by my count he just makes the page count for writing and makes it with ease as an artist.
How is Torchwood? I've had all of the eps on my computer but have never gotten around to watching it. I've heard that it ranges from good to bad.
Torchwood is great. Personally I thought it was more consistent than Dr Who with no really bad episodes and a few excellent ones.

De Carabas
09-24-2007, 04:24 PM
Patricia and I haven't started watching Torchwood just yet, although we have three episodes waiting for us in the TiVo. She and I got a late start on Doctor Who and now are only four episodes in on Series Two. We want to get further before we start Torchwood, to avoid any potential spoilers.



EM

dancj
09-25-2007, 06:14 AM
There is one episode I can think of in Torchwood that specifically follows on from an episode of the second series of Dr Who so you're probably wise to wait.

dancj
09-26-2007, 06:05 AM
A couple of possibles that I left out

Writers:
Mark Waid - All of his Flash comics, JLA, JLA Year 1, Kingdom Come, LoSH, Empire

Artists:
Phil Hester - Swamp Thing, Green Arrow and his solo short stories TPB might just get him on the list.
Barry Kitson - L.E.G.I.O.N, JLA Year 1, LoSH, Empire and a few other bits might be enough