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CBR News
09-17-2007, 01:23 PM
Marvel's given CBR News an advance look at the December, 2007 X-Men related titles which includes looks at covers for "Messiah CompleX" crossovers and more.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=11855

Mikl C
09-17-2007, 01:27 PM
Polaris leads the Starjammers and the Imperial Guard into battle
HOT!!@K:@~

Novaya Havoc
09-17-2007, 01:28 PM
"Don’t miss the shocking end of the crossover that sets up the Exiles series finale!"

?!?!?!?

DREAMBOAT CC?!?!? Whaaaa?!

Omega Alpha
09-17-2007, 01:30 PM
Astonishing X-men soliticit. Who gives a crap?

Also, X-factor #16 clearly shows what's the purpose of this new X-force team. Which is what i had expected.

Wolverine written by Carey? Sweet! Brother Vodoo and Deadpool? Great!

And poor Madrox:(

EDIT: Hey, does that Exiles #100 solicit means CC has no job anymore?

Beast
09-17-2007, 01:31 PM
"Don’t miss the shocking end of the crossover that sets up the Exiles series finale!"

?!?!?!?

DREAMBOAT CC?!?!? Whaaaa?!
Fits the rumors I'm hearing about it relaunching with a new #1.

Edit: Which I clearly missed the announcement about, in the Exiles solicit. :D

rwsmith
09-17-2007, 01:33 PM
Astonishing X-men soliticit. Who gives a crap?

Um...I do.:o

And Messiah Complex really has me intrigued. It deals with time travel apparently (which I normally loathe), but my guess is that it will ultimately clean a lot of this stuff up. At least that's what I'm hoping for. A true fresh start for the X-men. Can't wait to see just how shaken up everything is by this event!

Oh, and there's too many Wolverine books this month. If I'm saying it, then you know it's gotten bad.

Joe Zool
09-17-2007, 01:34 PM
*blinks*

Is that supposed to be Lady Deathstrike facing off with might-might not be X-23?

And are we supposed to know that dude on the X-Men cover?

Anna
09-17-2007, 01:34 PM
Sooo... who IS the lady with the finger claws?

Omega Alpha
09-17-2007, 01:36 PM
And Messiah Complex really has me intrigued. It deals with time travel apparently (which I normally loathe), but my guess is that it will ultimately clean a lot of this stuff up. At least that's what I'm hoping for. A true fresh start for the X-men. Can't wait to see just how shaken up everything is by this event!


Well, in X-men, they are killing characters who are from the future or can see it, so you may get your wish.


Oh, and there's too many Wolverine books this month. If I'm saying it, then you know it's gotten bad.

Read Carey's and drop Origins.:)

kate-pryde
09-17-2007, 01:37 PM
Emperor Vulcan #4 sounds fantastic! Lorna leading the Starjammers!! Rachel finally getting revenge. Can't wait for December.

Hi-Fi
09-17-2007, 01:37 PM
Sooo... who IS the lady with the finger claws?
Lady Deathstrike?


Everything sounds pretty exciting.

Schuimend Mormel
09-17-2007, 01:39 PM
Is that supposed to be Lady Deathstrike facing off with might-might not be X-23?

Sooo... who IS the lady with the finger claws?

Don't see how it could be anyone BUT Deathstrike.

Looks like, feudwise, she's switching over to Wolverine lite. (just kidding... No disrespect for X...)

Sentinel K
09-17-2007, 01:39 PM
And are we supposed to know that dude on the X-Men cover?

Looks like the Isolationist

jarrod
09-17-2007, 01:42 PM
Wasn't Deathstrike dropped in the negative zone or something?

Also, I thought she'd resolved her fued with Logan and the X-Men? She always seemed a more "grey area" driven villian to me, with little pulling her agaist the X-Men basides family vengeance... what would she care about the Messiah Complex?

Schuimend Mormel
09-17-2007, 01:44 PM
Give. Me. Some. Time. To. Catch. Up. On all the back issues.

Blast it.

:p

1WEBHEAD
09-17-2007, 01:44 PM
Looks like fun but why is it that there's always a tratior amongst everybody?

Hi-Fi
09-17-2007, 01:45 PM
Wasn't Deathstrike dropped in the negative zone or something?

Also, I thought she'd resolved her fued with Logan and the X-Men? She always seemed a more "grey area" driven villian to me, with little pulling her agaist the X-Men basides family vengeance... what would she care about the Messiah Complex?
Wasn't she a Stryker follower when we last saw her? And aren't Stryker's Purifiers supposed to be involved in this?

Brian M.
09-17-2007, 01:45 PM
UNCANNY X-MEN #493
Written by ED BRUBAKER
Penciled by BILLY TAN
Cover by DAVID FINCH
Variant Cover by JIM CHEUNG
MESSIAH COMPLEX Part 6
Battered by Sinister, the X-Men retreat to the mansion to lick their wounds. But in the war for the future of mutantkind, the battle never ends. The school is overrun by a mysterious new player who enlists one of the X-Men’s oldest foes. And when Cyclops learns who has the baby, he’s forced to make a tough decision.
32 PGS./Rated T+ …$2.99

Cable. It has to be him. I bet Cable gets the freaking baby and is on the run with it. Who else would it be that could force Cyclops into making a tough decision? Jean? Could Jean be returning? Unlikely. It's not his brother, not his daughter...maybe Emma breaks ranks and takes the baby? She's always been a do what it takes ask questions later type girl. Maybe she thinks she is the only one who can protect it. Still, my money is on Cable. We know he has a new solo coming out, they say it's unlike anything we've seen from him...so who knows. Cyclops vs Cable for the fate of mutantkind....I'm down for that.

Also...X-Men: First Class #7 sounds great. Love the two parters. It all sounds great. I'm getting so much.

Beast
09-17-2007, 01:48 PM
Wasn't Deathstrike dropped in the negative zone or something?

Also, I thought she'd resolved her fued with Logan and the X-Men? She always seemed a more "grey area" driven villian to me, with little pulling her agaist the X-Men basides family vengeance... what would she care about the Messiah Complex?
Her last appearance was in Rogue's solo book. She was gunning for Rogue over stolen memories, and chopped off Sunfire's legs. So I'm not so sure she doesn't still have a grudge. :)

jmc247
09-17-2007, 01:49 PM
Alot of embargoed covers for December.

jarrod
09-17-2007, 01:49 PM
I last remember her in Civil War... though I'd forgotten about the Xtreme and Rogue appearances. :/

Beast
09-17-2007, 01:49 PM
Wasn't she a Stryker follower when we last saw her? And aren't Stryker's Purifiers supposed to be involved in this?
Yes and yes. Besides, it seems like pretty much everyone is involved in this.

Mikl C
09-17-2007, 01:50 PM
Maybe she's still pissed that everyone is using adamantium bonding that she thinks her father invented..?
Honestly I found deathstrike most interesting when she was fighting wolverine, realised he'd lost the metal, and let it go.

Pach!
09-17-2007, 01:57 PM
So Exiles is getting relaunched? It's for the best I think. I just wish they had relaunched it sooner.

Beast
09-17-2007, 01:58 PM
Hmmm, guess I'll be getting the following from these. :)

ASTONISHING X-MEN #24
EXILES #100
MARVEL SPOTLIGHT: X-MEN – MESSIAH COMPLEX
NEW X-MEN #45
UNCANNY X-MEN #493
X-FACTOR #26
X-MEN #206
X-MEN: DIE BY THE SWORD #4 & #5 (of 5)
X-MEN: EMPEROR VULCAN #4 (of 5)
X-MEN: FIRST CLASS #7
X-MEN: MESSIAH COMPLEX - MUTANT FILES

Tempted by WOLVERINE: FIREBREAK ONE-SHOT because it's Carey. But it's also Wolverine. :p

And from the Non-Mutant Books so far:

Avengers Classic #7
Avengers: The Initiative #8
Giant-Size Avengers Special #1
New Avengers #37
The Twelve #0

Brett P
09-17-2007, 01:58 PM
Didn't know it was time for these already!

Some of these solicits sound like they were thrown together without much thought. Far too many "And"'s in the X Factor solicit, wheras the Exiles one is sloppy.

THREE DEATHS this month? One by Predator X in X Factor(what's up with that, the X-ers took on a whole batch of them but now one lone creature is racking up the mutants?), one in New X-Men, and possibly one in Astonishing...

Sounds like Madrox and Layla are the main players in the tale.

New X-Men cover is quite the dissapointment.

Exiles ending...I guess if the new series is great then it could be worth it...

This month has left a very dark cloud hanging over my head...

The Mutants Files get props for listing the New X-Men AND Anole haha but he's not on the cover so I take it back.

jarrod
09-17-2007, 01:59 PM
So Exiles is getting relaunched? It's for the best I think. I just wish they had relaunched it sooner.
Wonder if they'll go higher profile with it? Xtreme eXiles with Claremont & Larocca? :D

Beast
09-17-2007, 01:59 PM
So Exiles is getting relaunched? It's for the best I think. I just wish they had relaunched it sooner.
Nah. Always good to relaunch it on a major number. It reaching #100 is a huge milestone.

Brian M.
09-17-2007, 01:59 PM
No NEX issues....

jarrod
09-17-2007, 02:01 PM
No NEX issues....
It's on hold until Cornell and the new artist come aboard, probably next spring.

Omega Alpha
09-17-2007, 02:02 PM
1) New writer (great!)
2) Using more alternate versions of popular characters on the team
3) Create more recurring villains (possibly someone like Kang or Immortus as well as AU versions of popular villains and heroes).

rwsmith
09-17-2007, 02:02 PM
Cable. It has to be him. I bet Cable gets the freaking baby and is on the run with it. Who else would it be that could force Cyclops into making a tough decision? Jean? Could Jean be returning? Unlikely. It's not his brother, not his daughter...maybe Emma breaks ranks and takes the baby? She's always been a do what it takes ask questions later type girl. Maybe she thinks she is the only one who can protect it. Still, my money is on Cable. We know he has a new solo coming out, they say it's unlike anything we've seen from him...so who knows. Cyclops vs Cable for the fate of mutantkind....I'm down for that.

Also...X-Men: First Class #7 sounds great. Love the two parters. It all sounds great. I'm getting so much.

Either that or it's Beast. Cyke and Hank are close, so that's also a possibility.

But Cable sounds cooler to me. That would mean that the Lupine X-Force Avengers are hunting him, and I soooo want to see Cable throw down with them. Hopefully it will go better than his last match-up with Gambit and Sunfire.

JoshuaB
09-17-2007, 02:02 PM
Oh my gosh....Is the Mutant Files book just a Who's Who??? Or is that really Jean in the White Phoenix uniform...oh my gosh I'm almost peeing my pants......

Beast
09-17-2007, 02:03 PM
No NEX issues....
Claremont has to kill off everyone who's not going to New Exiles or Cornell's NEX first.

Beast
09-17-2007, 02:04 PM
1) New writer (great!)
2) Using more alternate versions of popular characters on the team
3) Create more recurring villains (possibly someone like Kang or Immortus as well as AU versions of popular villains and heroes).
It's still Claremont. They're just rebooting with a new #1 for the sales boost.

Pach!
09-17-2007, 02:05 PM
Oh my gosh....Is the Mutant Files book just a Who's Who??? Or is that really Jean in the White Phoenix uniform...oh my gosh I'm almost peeing my pants......

It's just a who's who.

Beast
09-17-2007, 02:05 PM
Oh my gosh....Is the Mutant Files book just a Who's Who??? Or is that really Jean in the White Phoenix uniform...oh my gosh I'm almost peeing my pants......
It's a handbook. Jean being in it means she might be relevant again soon.

Daithi
09-17-2007, 02:05 PM
Wow, colour me excited for pretty much everything.

Plus Lorna leads the Starjammers and the Imperial Guard? Woot!

Pach!
09-17-2007, 02:06 PM
Claremont has to kill off everyone who's not going to New Exiles or Cornell's NEX first.

I bet Juggernaut, Dazzler, maybe Longshot, Blink, Spider-man 2099 and Morph are among those. The only one I can see dying there is Morph.

streator
09-17-2007, 02:07 PM
interesting set of solicts.

i'm getting:

uncanny x-men 493
x-factor 26
new x-men 45
x-men 206
astonishing x-men 24
x-men: emperor vulcan 4


some thoughts:

madrox in a coma? bummer.
predator x? i can't say that i've heard of that character before.
if that's lady deathstrike on the new x-men cover i hope x-23 kills her. i'm tired of lady deathstrike.
who's on the x-men cover? gambit? cyclops?
bummer about the djurdjevic cover being for a marvel spotlight issue. i like the cover but i'm not going to buy that issue solely for it.
i really hope astonishing comes out on time.
exiles is ending. can't say that i'm surprised, really.

Mystique25
09-17-2007, 02:09 PM
Read Carey's and drop Origins.:)

I agree. I never buy any Wolverine titles EVER! Though since Carey is writing it, I'm actually going to pick this one up.

Beast
09-17-2007, 02:12 PM
I agree. I never buy any Wolverine titles EVER! Though since Carey is writing it, I'm actually going to pick this one up.
Yeah, I'm even tempted to get it because it's Mike Carey. And I loathe Wolverine.

jarrod
09-17-2007, 02:15 PM
I bet Juggernaut, Dazzler, maybe Longshot, Blink, Spider-man 2099 and Morph are among those. The only one I can see dying there is Morph.
I think Juggs was already "removed" via WWH X-Men... I doubt he's in the crossover at all.

xmanson
09-17-2007, 02:15 PM
Cyke is looking beat in that cover.

chickrockguitar
09-17-2007, 02:16 PM
WOAH!

Looks like one issue really does go on to the next. Good job I already decided (and budgeted) to pick up the other 3 core X books that are in MC, lol. So, thats *counts* 6 X-books insted of my normal 3. Plus the 2 MC one-shots. My big months spendin' starts in Dec, lol.

The NXM Cov: I like it. But, I was sure it was gonna be the group shot we saw in the NXM art previews, lol! Wonder when that comes.

Dec can't come quick enough! (and not only cos of comics, I should have my new puppy by then! Prob get her middle of Nov. Woot! lol.)

Brett P
09-17-2007, 02:16 PM
interesting set of solicts.

predator x? i can't say that i've heard of that character before.


Freaky creatures from the Facility (In New X-Men) who were then coated with Mercury's "skin" when she was kidnapped and tortured.

The Astonishing and New team arrived and beat them all up, Mercury absorbed her stuff back, leaving them as bones. One got away.

You can see it on the Messiah Complex Mutant Files cover. Silver thing, bottom left corner.

xmanson
09-17-2007, 02:19 PM
Funny how one solicit talks about the mysteri blade finger lady and the cover below reveals it. LOL

ImpulseUCF
09-17-2007, 02:21 PM
"Don’t miss the shocking end of the crossover that sets up the Exiles series finale!"

?!?!?!?

DREAMBOAT CC?!?!? Whaaaa?!Uh, oh!!

EXILES #100
Written by CHRIS CLAREMONT
Pencils & Cover by TOM GRUMMETT
Adios, Exiles! They’ve left their footprints across the multiverse for a hundred issues, but what threat will make Blink and Co. close up shop for good? It’s not what you expect! And what’s this we hear about an all NEW EXILES…Also! Re-presenting the classic Exiles #1 by Judd Winnick and Mike McKone!
64 PGS./Rated A …$3.99

Oh, God. NEW Exiles? Just like New Excalibur was a great idea. Also, does anyone else love the delicious irony thye have the nerve to publish the AMAZINGLY FANTASTIC first issue of Exiles RIGHT NEXT to CC's Exiles in its current state in the very same issue??? LOL!!

That's like eating a gourmet steak at a fancy restaurant and taking a dump on the plate right next a steak from the same place. LMAO.

*To be fair, the current state of Exiles is more Bedard's fault than CC's and I am speaking to the general state of the book rather than just CC's work*

Pro
09-17-2007, 02:22 PM
Looks like the Isolationist

Looks like an old weary depowered Cyclops to me. Could it be Scott in the future lamenting the demise of the mutant race?

madrox in a coma? bummer.

Madrox Prime. But it seems a Madrox dupe and Layla are stuck in mutantkind's future. I'm still thinking Layla will grow up in this story somehow but i was wondering how Layla would grow up while madrox didn't if they were both swept into a timevortex. Guess this answers that question if i'm right. It might also explain why madrox prime is in a coma since his dupes are essentially part of him. If part of him is stuck in the future what would be the effect on Madrox prime?

But Cable sounds cooler to me. That would mean that the Lupine X-Force Avengers are hunting him, and I soooo want to see Cable throw down with them.

Sounds like a good guess. Could be Hank but i think it might be Cable yes. His return is supposed to be a big deal and he has played the part of antagonist before. Big question would then be what does he know that makes him kidnap the baby?

And i love love love the focus on Madrox and Layla.

xmanson
09-17-2007, 02:23 PM
AMAZINGLY FANTASTIC?

Hmmm... no.

I give it a B-.

Heh, Exiles 100 will probably get a C-, so...

Pach!
09-17-2007, 02:23 PM
Uh, oh!!



Oh, God. NEW Exiles? Just like New Excalibur was a great idea. Also, does anyone else love the delicious irony thye have the nerve to publish the AMAZINGLY FANTASTIC first issue of Exiles RIGHT NEXT to CC's Exiles in its current state in the very same issue??? LOL!!

That's like eating a gourmet steak at a fancy restaurant and taking a dump on the plate right next a steak from the same place. LMAO.
LOL. But you're getting the dump regardless. You're getting an extra steak! Don't complain.

Brett P
09-17-2007, 02:24 PM
Also, does anyone else love the delicious irony thye have the nerve to publish the AMAZINGLY FANTASTIC first issue of Exiles RIGHT NEXT to CC's Exiles in its current state in the very same issue??? LOL!!

That's like eating a gourmet steak at a fancy restaurant and taking a dump on the plate right next a steak from the same place. LMAO.


HAHAHA! :D

ImpulseUCF
09-17-2007, 02:28 PM
LOL. But you're getting the dump regardless. You're getting an extra steak! Don't complain.LOL. I see my analogy is flawed. Okay, it's more like being served a gourmet steak at a fancy restaurant, taking a dump on the plate and handing it back.

There is no second steak.

Beast
09-17-2007, 02:28 PM
Two more X-Related books from IGN...

ULTIMATE X-MEN #89
Written by ROBERT KIRKMAN
Penciled by TYLER KIRKHAM
Cover by YANICK PAQUETTE

Storm soars solo! The sinister Shadow King is desperate to escape from the mental prison he was placed in centuries ago - and he'll destroy Storm to do it! But will his freedom also unleash the horrifying swarm of the alien Brood? And will even the X-Men be enough to battle a being who has plotted our death and destruction for ages?
32 PGS./Rated T+ …$2.99

WHAT IF? X-MEN: THE RISE & FALL OF THE SHI'AR EMPIRE
Written by CHRISTOPHER YOST
Penciled by LARRY STROMAN
Cover by OLIVIER COIPEL

THE RISE & FALL OF THE SHI'AR EMPIRE was an X-Men event like no other. Fresh off X-MEN: DEADLY GENESIS, Ed Brubaker took Marvel's mighty mutants off Earth and on an intergalactic journey to stop VULCAN, the third Summers brother, from exacting revenge on the Shi'Ar Empire! But in that final battle in front of the M'Kraan Crystal, what if Vulcan absorbed the very energies that contained it many years ago? In other words, what if Vulcan became PHOENIX? When his unlimited rage is fueled with unlimited power...who will be able to stop him now?

Writer Chris Yost (X-23, New X-Men, TV's Fantastic Four) welcomes the return of legendary X-Factor and Alien Legion artist Larry Stroman to the X-Universe with this action-packed issue.
32 PGS./Rated T+ …$2.99

Novaya Havoc
09-17-2007, 02:33 PM
It's still Claremont. They're just rebooting with a new #1 for the sales boost.

I give it until Issue #13. It will have SAGE in it.

Sage is a title-killer.

quillero
09-17-2007, 02:33 PM
God, MC can't come soon enough.

I kinda fear for Beast. Why isn't he with the trackers? Will he go rogue or it's a case of him being more useful somewhere else?

Pro
09-17-2007, 02:35 PM
God, MC can't come soon enough.

I kinda fear for Beast. Why isn't he with the trackers? Will he go rogue or it's a case of him being more useful somewhere else?

Simple i think. Beast is not a tracker. Of course he could be the one being tracked :).

Novaya Havoc
09-17-2007, 02:36 PM
Oh, God. NEW Exiles? Just like New Excalibur was a great idea. Also, does anyone else love the delicious irony thye have the nerve to publish the AMAZINGLY FANTASTIC first issue of Exiles RIGHT NEXT to CC's Exiles in its current state in the very same issue??? LOL!!


Right?! If I were Judd Winick, I would sue.

It's like "OMG REMEMBER WHEN EXILES WAS GOOD?!" They're throwing a CC bone by playing to nostalgia.

If the editors loved Exiles, they would prohibit any and all use of Sage on the title.

"All-New" Exiles. It's like a contradiction of the concept.

spinny0617
09-17-2007, 02:37 PM
hmmmmmm, what if Sinister got his hands on the baby but Rogue stole it from under his nose. Right now she's insane enough to not take it back to the X-Men but go on the run... maybe she wants to raise it, seeing how she can't have any herself (wild guess).

Carey said she would have an important role in MC only not in the spotlight.

...

ah, I'm probably wrong. *shrugs*

Hi-Fi
09-17-2007, 02:39 PM
hmmmmmm, what if Sinister got his hands on the baby but Rogue stole it from under his nose. Right now she's insane enough to not take it back to the X-Men but go on the run... maybe she wants to raise it, seeing how she can't have any herself (wild guess).

Carey said she would have an important role in MC only not in the spotlight.

...

ah, I'm probably wrong. *shrugs*
LOL. Rogue with a baby would be hilarious.

ExodusCloak
09-17-2007, 02:40 PM
Could the stranger be Dark Beast?

tetragene
09-17-2007, 02:40 PM
Right?! If I were Judd Winick, I would sue.

It's like "OMG REMEMBER WHEN EXILES WAS GOOD?!" They're throwing a CC bone by playing to nostalgia.

If the editors loved Exiles, they would prohibit any and all use of Sage on the title.

"All-New" Exiles. It's like a contradiction of the concept.

All your predictions are coming true. NEX is getting a new creative team and Exiles is getting a relaunch with a brand new team...it's just eerie. Are you sleeping with Jim Mccan? :P

Sage on Exiles will be hilarious though...seriously. Just imagine.

Pach!
09-17-2007, 02:40 PM
LOL. Rogue with a baby would be hilarious.

She would probably kill it though.

"FLY BABY! FLY! DO THE PENTANGLE FORMATION"... or you know,touch it.

Novaya Havoc
09-17-2007, 02:45 PM
All your predictions are coming true. NEX is getting a new creative team and Exiles is getting a relaunch with a brand new team...it's just eerie. Are you sleeping with Jim Mccan? :P

Sage on Exiles will be hilarious though...seriously. Just imagine.

No, I think CC is still on it.

caney
09-17-2007, 02:45 PM
She would probably kill it though.

"FLY BABY! FLY! DO THE PENTANGLE FORMATION"... or you know,touch it.

She'd still be better than Brittney with a baby.

Yeah, low blow, I know. (tee-hee it rhymes!)

I'm worried about Rogue if Carey isn't going to get to finish his plans for her. I hope she doesn't get left in some awkward state.

xmanson
09-17-2007, 02:48 PM
They are "What If?"-ing everyhting now, aren't they?

jarrod
09-17-2007, 02:48 PM
WHAT IF? X-MEN: THE RISE & FALL OF THE SHI'AR EMPIRE
Written by CHRISTOPHER YOST
Penciled by LARRY STROMAN
Cover by OLIVIER COIPEL

THE RISE & FALL OF THE SHI'AR EMPIRE was an X-Men event like no other. Fresh off X-MEN: DEADLY GENESIS, Ed Brubaker took Marvel's mighty mutants off Earth and on an intergalactic journey to stop VULCAN, the third Summers brother, from exacting revenge on the Shi'Ar Empire! But in that final battle in front of the M'Kraan Crystal, what if Vulcan absorbed the very energies that contained it many years ago? In other words, what if Vulcan became PHOENIX? When his unlimited rage is fueled with unlimited power...who will be able to stop him now?

Writer Chris Yost (X-23, New X-Men, TV's Fantastic Four) welcomes the return of legendary X-Factor and Alien Legion artist Larry Stroman to the X-Universe with this action-packed issue.
32 PGS./Rated T+ …$2.99
OMG!!!! HOTT!!!!1!!!!!!!111111

What elder gods do I have to make sacrifices to to get Stroman on a core book?

xmanson
09-17-2007, 02:49 PM
Stroman should be a guest artist in X-factor.

Man, I'd cream my pants just reading the solicitations!!!

Christopher O
09-17-2007, 02:53 PM
HOT!!@K:@~
Yeah, that's slightly awesome. I wasn't planning on sticking with the book, but cool developments with Polaris will make me reconsider.

Mikl C
09-17-2007, 02:57 PM
What if: RAFTOISE ruled the Shi'Ar *Pokémon tie-in*
Writer: Mikl C

Pach!
09-17-2007, 02:58 PM
What if: RAFTOISE ruled the Shi'Ar *Pokémon tie-in*
Writer: Mikl C

I would buy it.

caney
09-17-2007, 03:00 PM
What if: RAFTOISE ruled the Shi'Ar *Pokémon tie-in*
Writer: Mikl C

You should call your book "What the Devil?!?!: RAFTOISE ruled the Shi'Ar" *Pokémon tie-in*

Who's the artist?

quillero
09-17-2007, 03:05 PM
You should call your book "What the Devil?!?!: RAFTOISE ruled the Shi'Ar" *Pokémon tie-in*

Who's the artist?

As long as Pikachu isn't retconed to be Lupine Sapiens count me in. ;)

Volk1
09-17-2007, 03:12 PM
I hope Pulse is in the WHo's Who!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm excited for that the MOST out of all this.



I wonder if Hepz is dying. I think she's dying.

ProfeZZor X
09-17-2007, 03:13 PM
X-Men First Class looks A-M-A-Z-I-N-G!!!!

Brett P
09-17-2007, 03:13 PM
You should call your book "What the Devil?!?!: RAFTOISE ruled the Shi'Ar" *Pokémon tie-in*


LMFAO!! "What the devil" is funnier than Chris Crocker!

Michael Sean
09-17-2007, 03:14 PM
I love the cover to Messiah Complex: Mutant Files.

Sure it may be a handbook but all the characters on the cover are characters who have appeared recently and have been important characters in recent stories.

Hopefully, Jean appearing on the cover as White Phoenix is a good sign.

xmanson
09-17-2007, 03:14 PM
LMFAO!! "What the devil" is funnier than Chris Crocker!

A funeral is funnier than Chris Crocker. But i disgress...

Brett P
09-17-2007, 03:16 PM
A funeral is funnier than Chris Crocker. But i disgress...

I meant as in laughing at him of course, in the crying and screaming for people to leave Britney alone and being the laughing stock of the country sense.

Dr. Chaos
09-17-2007, 03:18 PM
Glad to see Exiles won't be ending just yet.

Lately I have a bad habit of finding new books I love only to find out they've been canceled.

(Cable & Deapool and The Irredeemable Ant-Man come to mind)

rilokyle
09-17-2007, 03:22 PM
Ooooh December sounds so good! Messiah Complex sounds bitchin'- I love all the Finch and Silvestri covers.

I can't wait to see the cover for Emperor Vulcan- that also sounds like an action-packed issue. SOOOO excited Polaris is leading the team, AND equally excited that Havok is facing off against Vulcan. 'Bout time.

Brian M.
09-17-2007, 03:27 PM
I love that X-Men cover. I hope it's Cyclops...not the traitor thing, but that it's just Cyke's picture on the cover.

Astonishing sounds good, glad they are trying to get it done before the end of the year. Hope it makes it.

CnD...sounds like it's just filling up till #50. Sad.

As for the Beast being the one w/ the baby...that is very good guess, it's 60/40 in my mind that it's Cable, the other 40 being Beast. Two Originals...set against each other...almost as good as Cyclops vs his son.

Pach!
09-17-2007, 03:30 PM
I hope it's Cable. I would love it for it to be Cable.

I just can't take more Beast main role after ES. I need to detox on Beast.

rwsmith
09-17-2007, 03:31 PM
I love that X-Men cover. I hope it's Cyclops...not the traitor thing, but that it's just Cyke's picture on the cover.

Astonishing sounds good, glad they are trying to get it done before the end of the year. Hope it makes it.

CnD...sounds like it's just filling up till #50. Sad.

As for the Beast being the one w/ the baby...that is very good guess, it's 60/40 in my mind that it's Cable, the other 40 being Beast. Two Originals...set against each other...almost as good as Cyclops vs his son.

Not just Cyclops vs. his son, but also the West Coast Mighty Lupine X-Force Avengers, baby! Does it get any better!?

The Sword Is Drawn
09-17-2007, 03:32 PM
No NEX issues....

Not until Excalibur relaunches with Paul Cornell and the as of yet unnamed artist. You'll have to make do with X-Men: Die by the Sword.

It's on hold until Cornell and the new artist come aboard, probably next spring.

EDIT: Oh, yeah. Jarrod has already pointed this out. Damn. :D

I give it until Issue #13. It will have SAGE in it.

Sage is a title-killer.

I'd agree with that sentiment, certainly. I'm just happy she'll be off Excalibur...

Looking at the Cover for X-Men: Die by the Sword #4 that'd be bloody Albion again, wouldn't it? I provisionally take back my grumbles at a shitty rushed ending to NEX #24 if some of it gets worked out here. Provisionally.

xmanson
09-17-2007, 03:38 PM
Beast and Dark Beast could raise the baby as a gay couple.

ToxicTeen
09-17-2007, 03:51 PM
Oh man, so much is happening in Messiah Complex. @__@; I'm gonna have to wait a long time till the hardcover comes out. But once it does come out will it include the Endangered Species storyline and the Messiah Complex Mutant Files?

I wonder if Exiles is going to end where will the Exile crew end up? Back in their own timelines or will they just settle in Earth 616?

Dr. Chaos
09-17-2007, 04:06 PM
Whatever happens to them, hopefully Miguel stays active.

His pressence in Exiles has been a nice nostalgia boost.

Beast
09-17-2007, 04:08 PM
I wonder if Exiles is going to end where will the Exile crew end up? Back in their own timelines or will they just settle in Earth 616?
Most will likely die in Die By The Sword. Especially with the preview pages for Issue #1.

xmanson
09-17-2007, 04:12 PM
Actually DBTS leads into the end of Exiles.

Brian M.
09-17-2007, 04:13 PM
Not just Cyclops vs. his son, but also the West Coast Mighty Lupine X-Force Avengers, baby! Does it get any better!?

What started out as a joke...actually manifested into something real...I...I didn't know they were listening.

Novaya Havoc
09-17-2007, 04:15 PM
Most will likely die in Die By The Sword. Especially with the preview pages for Issue #1.

Preview pages are up? Where?

NM. found them.

OMG DAZZLER LOOKS SO FUGGGG! HER EYEBROWS?! GAHHH!!!!

Brian M.
09-17-2007, 04:15 PM
Preview pages are up? Where?

Dazzler has a Dudley Do Right jaw line.

Pach!
09-17-2007, 04:17 PM
Most will likely die in Die By The Sword. Especially with the preview pages for Issue #1.

Where? can you link us, please.

xmanson
09-17-2007, 04:17 PM
Preview pages are up? Where?

You do like to suffer in anticipation, no? Let the torture for when the torture is due.

Polaris Rocks
09-17-2007, 04:22 PM
Polaris leads the Starjammers and the Imperial Guard into battle

Cool, its the first time Polaris has got to be a real leader since Genosha.

Novaya Havoc
09-17-2007, 04:22 PM
Where? can you link us, please.

http://www.marvel.com/news/comicstories.1552.X-Men_Die_By_The_Sword_1_Preview

Oh, it looks so dreadful! LOLOLOL.

Nyssane
09-17-2007, 04:26 PM
The X-Men handbook better have a Frenzy entry. :mad:

Pach!
09-17-2007, 04:27 PM
The X-Men handbook better have a Frenzy entry. :mad:

It probably will. Isn't that Riptide on the cover? Frenzy > Riptide.

caney
09-17-2007, 04:30 PM
The X-Men handbook better have a Frenzy entry. :mad:

LOL, Nyssy! I love your preemptive anger.

I bet she'll be there. She's been a big part in X-Men for a few months now.

Maestro
09-17-2007, 04:30 PM
Oh man, so much is happening in Messiah Complex. @__@; I'm gonna have to wait a long time till the hardcover comes out. But once it does come out will it include the Endangered Species storyline and the Messiah Complex Mutant Files?

I wonder if Exiles is going to end where will the Exile crew end up? Back in their own timelines or will they just settle in Earth 616?

If I know Marvel, Endangered Species will be a Premiere Hardcover and Messiah Complex will be oversized

The Sword Is Drawn
09-17-2007, 04:36 PM
http://www.marvel.com/news/comicstories.1552.X-Men_Die_By_The_Sword_1_Preview

Oh, it looks so dreadful! LOLOLOL.

The art's not all bad. Page 8, listed there, is a clear fashback to the panels from Uncann'ys Season of The Witch in House of M - when Brian twatted the Jaspers/Fury gestalt into what ever passes for the atmosphere in a existential wasteland like Otherworld.

But bugger me if that isn't Merlyn standing with The Fury and Jaspers on page 15. And if he's doing what he appears to be doing there will indeed be a lot of death.

Nyssane
09-17-2007, 04:37 PM
LOL, Nyssy! I love your preemptive anger.

I bet she'll be there. She's been a big part in X-Men for a few months now.

She'd BETTER be. Once again, a cover features RANDOM rather than FRENZY. I really hope the chump betrays the Acolytes and Exodus allows Frenzy to kick his ass.

xmanson
09-17-2007, 04:42 PM
The art's not all bad. Page 8, listed there, is a clear fashback to the panels from Uncann'ys Season of The Witch in House of M - when Brian twatted the Jaspers/Fury gestalt into what ever passes for the atmosphere in a existential wasteland like Otherworld.

But bugger me if that isn't Merlyn standing with The Fury and Jaspers on page 15. And if he's doing what he appears to be doing there will indeed be a lot of death.

I liked the preview a lot.

of course there's the chance owrds will kill it and we'll get at least 2 "What the devil" from those pages, but still....

Dazzler dyes her eyebrows.... LOL

RickyD410
09-17-2007, 04:43 PM
Dec can't come quick enough! (and not only cos of comics, I should have my new puppy by then! Prob get her middle of Nov. Woot! lol.)

PUPPY!!! What kind!??!

And is anyone else wondering how X-23 can be fighting Lady Deathstrike in New X-Men, and simultaneously tracking in X-Factor?

Brian M.
09-17-2007, 04:43 PM
PUPPY!!! What kind!??!

And is anyone else wondering how X-23 can be fighting Lady Deathstrike in New X-Men, and simultaneously tracking in X-Factor?

She fights Deathstrike while hunting? It's not a hard stretch. Each issue is sequential.

Pach!
09-17-2007, 04:46 PM
PUPPY!!! What kind!??!

And is anyone else wondering how X-23 can be fighting Lady Deathstrike in New X-Men, and simultaneously tracking in X-Factor?

It's continuous right?

I guess that the cover is just featuring X vs. Deathstrike but it will be trackers vs. Deathstrike (and maybe the purifiers if like Vic suggested Deathstrike is still agreeing with Stryker) vs. Cable and the baby.

Beast
09-17-2007, 04:49 PM
The art's not all bad. Page 8, listed there, is a clear fashback to the panels from Uncann'ys Season of The Witch in House of M - when Brian twatted the Jaspers/Fury gestalt into what ever passes for the atmosphere in a existential wasteland like Otherworld.

But bugger me if that isn't Merlyn standing with The Fury and Jaspers on page 15. And if he's doing what he appears to be doing there will indeed be a lot of death.
I really like Juan Santacruz's pencils there.
Big surprise that Merlyn's trying to take power back from Roma by aligning himself with psychos like Mad Jim Jaspers. And Mad Jim is twisting Captains into more Fury units. Yeah, there's gonna be oddles of death.

streator
09-17-2007, 04:50 PM
Freaky creatures from the Facility (In New X-Men) who were then coated with Mercury's "skin" when she was kidnapped and tortured.

The Astonishing and New team arrived and beat them all up, Mercury absorbed her stuff back, leaving them as bones. One got away.

You can see it on the Messiah Complex Mutant Files cover. Silver thing, bottom left corner.

thanks. i thought that might have been caliban on the mutant files cover. not a great kolins cover, in my opinion (although the wolverine cover looks alright).

Dagger
09-17-2007, 04:50 PM
I bet Juggernaut, Dazzler, maybe Longshot, Blink, Spider-man 2099 and Morph are among those. The only one I can see dying there is Morph.
I think Bru has plans for Dazz, so it's a pretty sure thing she's not going to die. I really don't want Blink to die. She's the only Exile I actually give a damn about.

Beast
09-17-2007, 04:53 PM
I think Bru has plans for Dazz, so it's a pretty sure thing she's not going to die. I really don't want Blink to die. She's the only Exile I actually give a damn about.
Yeah, I've been hearing the same rumblings about Dazzler.

As for Blink, I think it's about time that she does die or goes home.

In a book where anyone can die and anything can happen, Blink being safe is sorta tiring.

Dagger
09-17-2007, 04:54 PM
All your predictions are coming true. NEX is getting a new creative team and Exiles is getting a relaunch with a brand new team...it's just eerie. Are you sleeping with Jim Mccan? :P

Sage on Exiles will be hilarious though...seriously. Just imagine.
What did you expect? Novaya is really Nostrafrickendamus!!!

The Sword Is Drawn
09-17-2007, 04:55 PM
I really like Juan Santacruz's pencils there.
Big surprise that Merlyn's trying to take power back from Roma by aligning himself with psychos like Mad Jim Jaspers. And Mad Jim is twisting Captains into more Fury units. Yeah, there's gonna be oddles of death.

Absolutely. Wouldn't be surprised if Merlyn had created Albion purely as some kind of sleeper agent - a powerful champion to take on his daughter with at a later date if need be - as well.

Beast
09-17-2007, 04:56 PM
What did you expect? Novaya is really Nostrafrickendamus!!!
But Exiles isn't getting a new team.

Optic Rage!
09-17-2007, 04:58 PM
Is it just me or are Madrox and Layla getting more screentime in MC then anyone expected?

Not sure how i feel about that...

Also, Yay first post!

Dagger
09-17-2007, 04:58 PM
But Exiles isn't getting a new team.
As far as we know, no. But you never know what the future holds.

Mikl C
09-17-2007, 04:59 PM
LM
F
AO at Dazzler's monobrow!!

Beast
09-17-2007, 05:00 PM
Absolutely. Wouldn't be surprised if Merlyn had created Albion purely as some kind of sleeper agent - a powerful champion to take on his daughter with at a later date if need be - as well.
The people who post the news articles really need to be more mindful of fact checking and typos.

"In an epic battle to save the microverse" :p

Pach!
09-17-2007, 05:00 PM
Yeah, I've been hearing the same rumblings about Dazzler.

As for Blink, I think it's about time that she does die or goes home.

In a book where anyone can die and anything can happen, Blink being safe is sorta tiring.

That's the main reason I hate the idea of Psylocke and Sage on that team.

The Sword Is Drawn
09-17-2007, 05:01 PM
The people who post the news articles really need to be more mindful of fact checking and typos.

"In an epic battle to save the microverse" :p

The number of press releases and solicits they ballsed up since New Excalibur launched went into double figures quite a while back... :rolleyes:

Idiots.

Scipio72002
09-17-2007, 05:01 PM
How long is the run supposed to last, I know it has been posted but I have forgotten. The absence of Rogue worries me along with the many deaths. I wish they could find a way to be interesting without slaughtering their cast

Beast
09-17-2007, 05:01 PM
That's the main reason I hate the idea of Psylocke and Sage on that team.
Psylocke's died before. And Sage, if she's on the team, will just be playing Heather's role.

Porcelain
09-17-2007, 05:02 PM
Is everyone else still seeing all the covers? All I have is Wolverine 60 and Cable & Deadpool 68.
Is it just more or are Madrox and Layla getting more screentime in MC then anyone expected?

Not sure how i feel about that...

Also, Yay first post!
Ditto (and Yay on both counts)

Beast
09-17-2007, 05:02 PM
How long is the run supposed to last, I know it has been posted but I have forgotten. The absence of Rogue worries me along with the many deaths. I wish they could find a way to be interesting without slaughtering their cast
Messiah Complex? It's 13 issues. The One-Shot and then 12 Issues.

X-Men: Messiah Complex Checklist:

• Chapter 1: (X-Men: Messiah Complex One Shot).
• Chapter 2: (Uncanny X-Men #492)
• Chapter 3: (X-Factor #25)
• Chapter 4: (New X-Men #44)
• Chapter 5: (X-Men #206)
• Chapter 6: (Uncanny X-Men #493)
• Chapter 7: (X-Factor #26)
• Chapter 8: (New X-Men #45)
• Chapter 9: (X-Men #207)
• Chapter 10: (Uncanny X-Men #494)
• Chapter 11: (X-Factor #27)
• Chapter 12: (New X-Men #46)
• Chapter 13: (X-Men #208)

Brett P
09-17-2007, 05:03 PM
Is it just me or are Madrox and Layla getting more screentime in MC then anyone expected?

Not sure how i feel about that...

Also, Yay first post!

Yeah they do seem to have a major role going by these solicits, but then I guess they couldn't list what every single character is up to during the issues so maybe we are just taking it out of context a little.

I do worry if all the characters will get adequate panel time though.

Also, WELCOME TO CBR, ANDY!

It sucks that "Cyke" was already taken as a user name :(

Pach!
09-17-2007, 05:04 PM
Psylocke's died before. And Sage, if she's on the team, will just be playing Heather's role.

She died to bring her back in another body.. not just regular die. And Heather could die if someone invaded the Crystal Palace. Sage won't.

Novaya Havoc
09-17-2007, 05:05 PM
An All-New Reason to Barf: Claremont's All-New Exiles! (http://novayahavoc.blogspot.com/2007/09/all-new-reason-to-barf-claremonts-all.html)

Beast
09-17-2007, 05:06 PM
She died to bring her back in another body.. not just regular die. And Heather could die if someone invaded the Crystal Palace. Sage won't.
No, I'm talking about X-Treme X-Men #2. When she died at Vargas' hands.

Novaya Havoc
09-17-2007, 05:07 PM
LM
F
AO at Dazzler's monobrow!!

And her ADAM'S APPLE!!! GAHH!!!!!!!

Optic Rage!
09-17-2007, 05:10 PM
An All-New Reason to Barf: Claremont's All-New Exiles! (http://novayahavoc.blogspot.com/2007/09/all-new-reason-to-barf-claremonts-all.html)


Coulden't agree more.

And here i was getting excited at the prospect of never having to read one of his books again.

Im pretty sure he is the worst writer in the industry today.

streator
09-17-2007, 05:10 PM
brubaker has plans for dazzler? what, bringing her to uncanny? no offense to her fans, but i kind of hope that doesn't happen.

Pach!
09-17-2007, 05:18 PM
No, I'm talking about X-Treme X-Men #2. When she died at Vargas' hands.

Didn't CC kill her with the plans of bringing her back but then couldn't because of the dead is dead thing.

Beast
09-17-2007, 05:19 PM
Didn't CC kill her with the plans of bringing her back but then couldn't because of the dead is dead thing.
It's still a death. But yes, the intention was to return her to her British roots.

Pach!
09-17-2007, 05:20 PM
It's still a death. But yes, the intention was to return her to her British roots.

Then it's not the same as the exiles death where they really die. We all know that Psylocke and Sage won't die.

Novaya Havoc
09-17-2007, 05:21 PM
brubaker has plans for dazzler? what, bringing her to uncanny? no offense to her fans, but i kind of hope that doesn't happen.

I dunno! At WWChi, CB Cebulski said Bru "showed an interest in Dazzler," but nothing's been announced yet!

I'd prefer her in the Avengers myself. It all depends on where Uncanny X-Men will go. By judging by Bru's interview (locked thread :() and the new "screw you!" X-Attitude, it may work if he uses her!

CmX
09-17-2007, 05:25 PM
Wow that artwork for Die by the Sword is FUGG and there's no dialgoue, but TJ & TBird's reunion already looks retarded.

Dazz looks really fugg... she has really bushy eyebrows, poor thing. :( I wonder if IRL she would be suicidal by how her life has just spiraled down to crap.

Dagger
09-17-2007, 05:30 PM
An All-New Reason to Barf: Claremont's All-New Exiles! (http://novayahavoc.blogspot.com/2007/09/all-new-reason-to-barf-claremonts-all.html)
Are those the confirmed new members of Exiles? That's a horrible line up! I'm so glad I dont' get that book! Why do you tell such grim visions, Novayadamus???

Beast
09-17-2007, 05:31 PM
Then it's not the same as the exiles death where they really die. We all know that Psylocke and Sage won't die.
That's splitting hairs. It was still a death. She still was dead for years.

Novaya Havoc
09-17-2007, 05:31 PM
Wow that artwork for Die by the Sword is FUGG and there's no dialgoue, but TJ & TBird's reunion already looks retarded.

Dazz looks really fugg... she has really bushy eyebrows, poor thing. :( I wonder if IRL she would be suicidal by how her life has just spiraled down to crap.

SkrullDazzler is totally in her Britney phase. I bet she has a diet of cheetos and red bull and her skin is all pockmarked.

Are those the confirmed new members of Exiles? That's a horrible line up! I'm so glad I dont' get that book! Why do you tell such grim visions, Novayadamus???

Nah. It's just my grand vision, because CC is EVER SO PREDICTABLE.

Beast
09-17-2007, 05:32 PM
Are those the confirmed new members of Exiles? That's a horrible line up! I'm so glad I dont' get that book! Why do you tell such grim visions, Novayadamus???
No. That is not the official line-up for Exiles.

Pach!
09-17-2007, 05:35 PM
That's splitting hairs. It was still a death. She still was dead for years.

LOL. Ok, I hope you're not nervous about Psylocke dying because I'll let you in on a little secret. She won't. Neither will Sage.

Stephane Garrelie
09-17-2007, 05:35 PM
An All-New Reason to Barf: Claremont's All-New Exiles! (http://novayahavoc.blogspot.com/2007/09/all-new-reason-to-barf-claremonts-all.html)

Cool cover you photoshoped there, but where is Dazzler?
It would be cool if she was in All New Exiles :)

Brett P
09-17-2007, 05:35 PM
Wow that artwork for Die by the Sword is FUGG and there's no dialgoue, but TJ & TBird's reunion already looks retarded.


WhaaaaaaaaAAAt?! Where's that?! NO! I don't want the dirty spoilerage!

Dagger
09-17-2007, 05:36 PM
SkrullDazzler is totally in her Britney phase. I bet she has a diet of cheetos and red bull and her skin is all pockmarked.
Can you imagine current Dazz trying to do a 'Gimme, gimme more, gimme more!? Hilarity ensues!

No. That is not the official line-up for Exiles.
No, but based off of past interviews, and CC's current use of shoe-horning Psylocke into the big Exiles extended family as an example, I'm sure it's a pretty good guess.

Novaya Havoc
09-17-2007, 05:37 PM
Cool cover you photoshoped there, but where is Dazzler?
It would be cool if she was in All New Exiles :)

Uh, STEPHANE! Don't ever post such a lie again. Next you'll be saying it would be cool if JESUS was retconned as an ELEPHANT.

Dagger
09-17-2007, 05:38 PM
That's splitting hairs. It was still a death. She still was dead for years.
Only because of the edict Dead=dead that was going on at the time. The same reason Beast was given to Morrison, and Emma was able to turn to diamond.

Brett P
09-17-2007, 05:38 PM
brubaker has plans for dazzler? what, bringing her to uncanny? no offense to her fans, but i kind of hope that doesn't happen.

I've heard such rumblings...

Novaya Havoc
09-17-2007, 05:38 PM
WhaaaaaaaaAAAt?! Where's that?! NO! I don't want the dirty spoilerage!

There are no bubbles. It's basically Nocturne trying to inhale John's stub-nose.

Pro
09-17-2007, 05:41 PM
Next you'll be saying it would be cool if JESUS was retconned as an ELEPHANT.

What, the retcon that made a carpenter's son into God wasn't bad enough?

Mikl C
09-17-2007, 05:44 PM
Uh, STEPHANE! Don't ever post such a lie again. Next you'll be saying it would be cool if JESUS was retconned as an ELEPHANT.

LMFAO
SACRELIGE!
What a cool religion though.
KINDOF like Ganesus.

CaptainCanada
09-17-2007, 05:46 PM
I'll be getting the four MC titles, Astonishing X-Men (if it actually comes out, which I sincerely doubt), and X-Men: Emperor Vulcan.

Polaris leading the Starjammers sounds cool. Also, X-23 vs. Lady Deathstrike.

Stephane Garrelie
09-17-2007, 05:48 PM
Hoooo :) Funny little chick, thats where she was hiding!
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j252/StephaneGarrelie/allnewexilesWITHDAZZLER.jpg

Pach!
09-17-2007, 05:49 PM
I'm getting the 4 MC titles, Emperor Vulcan, X-men handbook, Wolverine, Carey Wolverine and maybe First Class.

I dropped the Initiative and I'll probably drop New Warriors by then, so I think I can afford to pick up First Class.

Mikl C
09-17-2007, 05:49 PM
lololololollllllllllllllllll

Novaya Havoc
09-17-2007, 05:49 PM
Hoooo :) Funny little chick, thats where she was hiding!
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j252/StephaneGarrelie/allnewexilesWITHDAZZLER.jpg

AHAHHAHHAHH....

not.

Dagger
09-17-2007, 05:57 PM
I'll be getting the MC titles, Iron Fist, Captain America, Daredevil, She-Hulk, and maybe one or two others, but I'm dropping a HUGE amount of books!

Affinity
09-17-2007, 06:11 PM
HOT MONTH

Sage has three breasts in that picture EWW THATS DISGUSTING

Joe Franklin
09-17-2007, 06:15 PM
WHAT IF? X-MEN: THE RISE & FALL OF THE SHI'AR EMPIRE
Written by CHRISTOPHER YOST
Penciled by LARRY STROMAN
Cover by OLIVIER COIPEL


Writer Chris Yost (X-23, New X-Men, TV's Fantastic Four) welcomes the return of legendary X-Factor and Alien Legion artist Larry Stroman to the X-Universe with this action-packed issue.
32 PGS./Rated T+ …$2.99

:eek: Holy Crap!

Stroman is a comic book art god. I hope he sticks around as an artist on one of the new X-book relaunches in 2008.:cool:

Vicious X Assassin
09-17-2007, 06:23 PM
Getting the MC titles, prob. the handbooks; Astonishing (hopefully it'll come out on time).

Anyone seen the Uncanny cover?

Arilou
09-17-2007, 06:28 PM
So, does EVERY X-title that month involve Madrox and Layla?

Maestro
09-17-2007, 06:37 PM
So, does EVERY X-title that month involve Madrox and Layla?

This could be their defining moments

Beast
09-17-2007, 06:39 PM
So, does EVERY X-title that month involve Madrox and Layla?
It's a running story during the Crossover.

david r
09-17-2007, 06:41 PM
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j252/StephaneGarrelie/allnewexilesWITHDAZZLER.jpg

ZONZORP JUST FAINTED!

Don Quixote
09-17-2007, 06:51 PM
I could do without possibly Deathstrike in NXM. Starting to sound like Messiah Complex is going to throw every character in the X-verse into the mix. No wonder Bru mentioned X-Cutioner's Song in that interview!

Do we know yet what the final issue of Pool & Deadcable will be? Issue 50?

frog
09-17-2007, 06:57 PM
I don't want to hear any more about casualties! :(

No mention at all of certain characters, such as Beast, Xavier and Magneto.

Omega Alpha
09-17-2007, 07:31 PM
Not just Cyclops vs. his son, but also the West Coast Mighty Lupine X-Force Avengers, baby! Does it get any better!?

Actually, i think that the Mighty Lupine X-Force Mutant Avengers (:D ) are working FOR Cyke, not against him. For me, this is the black-ops team that will replace Carey's X-men, but still working on a mission assigned by him, while the Uncanny team will be an opposing force or a team with different ideas and methods not related to the others.

Faded
09-17-2007, 07:54 PM
I'm actually starting to like Finch's covers more and more! <3

HOT!!@K:@~

I know! I might pick up that issue.

"Don’t miss the shocking end of the crossover that sets up the Exiles series finale!"

?!?!?!?

DREAMBOAT CC?!?!? Whaaaa?!

LOL abwuht?!

Will it really be new though? That's the question.

Morrison. Yes.
Bendis on Avengers. Yes.

All other uses...FAIIIIIIL in the name of Kalen!

Either that or it's Beast. Cyke and Hank are close, so that's also a possibility.

But Cable sounds cooler to me. That would mean that the Lupine X-Force Avengers are hunting him, and I soooo want to see Cable throw down with them. Hopefully it will go better than his last match-up with Gambit and Sunfire.

I think it would be cool if Beast was the traitor.

It would be entertainment-wise redeem him of his ES slump, plus it will also forgive for the odd timeline its placed within the current books*.

*For those who don't know, ES has already taken place by the time Carey's arc "Blinded by the Light" started.

Freaky creatures from the Facility (In New X-Men) who were then coated with Mercury's "skin" when she was kidnapped and tortured.

The Astonishing and New team arrived and beat them all up, Mercury absorbed her stuff back, leaving them as bones. One got away.

You can see it on the Messiah Complex Mutant Files cover. Silver thing, bottom left corner.

Ah, I was wondering who that was.

I thought it was Caliban.

welcomes the return of legendary X-Factor and Alien Legion artist Larry Stroman to the X-Universe with this action-packed issue.
32 PGS./Rated T+ …$2.99

LARRY STROMAN?! HOT DAMN. Bring back Risque.

She would probably kill it though.

"FLY BABY! FLY! DO THE PENTANGLE FORMATION"... or you know,touch it.

LOLMAO.

I hope Pulse is in the WHo's Who!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm excited for that the MOST out of all this.



I wonder if Hepz is dying. I think she's dying.

I hope so, too!

I don't think Hepz is dying. Maaaaybe Caliban, maaaaybe Dust.

I hope it's Cable. I would love it for it to be Cable.

I just can't take more Beast main role after ES. I need to detox on Beast.

Betrayal! He should totally be the traitor.

I said it twice, huh?

The X-Men handbook better have a Frenzy entry. :mad:

Loa needs to have an entry. Even if its a little corner box that just reiterates her dislike for chemistry.

I REALLY (realistically) hope for some Acolyte profiles though, like Frenzy and Unuscione.

She'd BETTER be. Once again, a cover features RANDOM rather than FRENZY. I really hope the chump betrays the Acolytes and Exodus allows Frenzy to kick his ass.

I didn't notice. At least its slightly homoerotic. :\

Is it just me or are Madrox and Layla getting more screentime in MC then anyone expected?

Not sure how i feel about that...

Also, Yay first post!

I feel awesome about it.

From the sounds of it, Jamie's getting the kind of spotlight Rogue knows far too much of. :o

I'm getting the 4 MC titles, Emperor Vulcan, X-men handbook, Wolverine, Carey Wolverine and maybe First Class.

I dropped the Initiative and I'll probably drop New Warriors by then, so I think I can afford to pick up First Class.

Make room for the Loners ongoing! <3

I could do without possibly Deathstrike in NXM. Starting to sound like Messiah Complex is going to throw every character in the X-verse into the mix. No wonder Bru mentioned X-Cutioner's Song in that interview!

Do we know yet what the final issue of Pool & Deadcable will be? Issue 50?

I actually love that about it.

I noticed last year it was all about new faced villains, and now they're totally bringing out the tissues and wearing the face masks so longtime readers can fanwank to their favorite villains coming back. I'm totally into it.

ProfeZZor X
09-17-2007, 07:54 PM
Sooo... who IS the lady with the finger claws?

Ripclaw's sister? ...

ProfeZZor X
09-17-2007, 07:59 PM
It's a handbook. Jean being in it means she might be relevant again soon.

I love the "Kirby Crackle" on the bustline of her costume... Great look.

...Unless it was done by accident. :(

Faded
09-17-2007, 08:01 PM
MORE THOUGHTS:

Talia totally looks like Keyshia Cole with the hair do. I'd burn that shit.

Marvel Spotlight --? I'm still not exactly sure what kind of book it'll be, but I'm whoring out for the X-Men this month. I'm at the point where I'm very excited for this now.

I dropped the Initiative and I'll probably drop New Warriors by then, so I think I can afford to pick up First Class.

The Intiative is starting to sound good now! But I always seem to get caught up in bad books that get solicited interestingly by issue 8. Hmmm.

Can anyone direct me to the New Warrior solicit?

frog
09-17-2007, 08:05 PM
Beast can be the traitor as long as he isn't one of the deaths.

As for those that do die, I hope they turn out to be skrulls.

Mammomax is mentioned as being in the handbook. I wouldn't think the poor creature is much relevant any more.

Don Quixote
09-17-2007, 08:05 PM
The Intiative is starting to sound good now! But I always seem to get caught up in bad books that get solicited interestingly by issue 8. Hmmm.

Can anyone direct me to the New Warrior solicit?

The Initiative isn't good. That's my opinion, anyway. messy art, forgettable characters and very disjointed storytelling.

I've not liked New Warriors, either. I picked it up because of Jubilee and Sofia, but definitely not going to continue. Sofia's so completely different from her NXM character that they might as well just have created someone completely new.

Mammomax is mentioned as being in the handbook. I wouldn't think the poor creature is much relevant any more.

Maybe we'll find out Mammomax can regenerate, like Wolverine. Wouldn't that be so kewl.;)

CmX
09-17-2007, 08:06 PM
Beast can be the traitor as long as he isn't one of the deaths.

As for those that do die, I hope they turn out to be skrulls.

Mammomax is mentioned as being in the handbook. I wouldn't think the poor creature is much relevant any more.

He's probably in there to just mention what Predator X has fed on so far.

Pach!
09-17-2007, 08:10 PM
Faded, there is always room in my list for Loners ongoing. <3

Affinity
09-17-2007, 08:12 PM
MORE THOUGHTS:

Talia totally looks like Keyshia Cole with the hair do. I'd burn that shit.

Marvel Spotlight --? I'm still not exactly sure what kind of book it'll be, but I'm whoring out for the X-Men this month. I'm at the point where I'm very excited for this now.



The Intiative is starting to sound good now! But I always seem to get caught up in bad books that get solicited interestingly by issue 8. Hmmm.

Can anyone direct me to the New Warrior solicit?

TALIA???

Also you better check out Marvel Spotlight IF ONLY FOR THE HELLCAT STORY! Written by Kathryn Immonen and drawn by husband STUART it's only 5 shades of awesome! I never knew Hellcat but LOL the previews are so awesome!

ProfeZZor X
09-17-2007, 08:14 PM
Maybe we'll find out Mammomax can regenerate, like Wolverine. Wouldn't that be so kewl.;)

Kind of irrelivent, because he'd still be stuck in that dungeon at the Facility.

Faded
09-17-2007, 08:19 PM
The Initiative isn't good. That's my opinion, anyway. messy art, forgettable characters and very disjointed storytelling.

I've not liked New Warriors, either. I picked it up because of Jubilee and Sofia, but definitely not going to continue. Sofia's so completely different from her NXM character that they might as well just have created someone completely new.

Oh, I totally agree.

The Intiative is grabbing me in with Mutant Zero, a slight interest in Dani, and an undying love of teen superhero teams (though A:I is one of those rare cases where I haven't latched on to anyone at all). Guest-artist Steve Uy seems like he'll at least be more my style art-wise though, if the preview pages have anything to say about it.

New Warriors...has Sofia and Angel. I actually enjoyed the most previous issue a lot more than the others, but the focus was off those two so I didn't cringe.

Okay, maybe I did when Angel said "you're sweet". To Barnell.

Faded
09-17-2007, 08:21 PM
TALIA???

Also you better check out Marvel Spotlight IF ONLY FOR THE HELLCAT STORY! Written by Kathryn Immonen and drawn by husband STUART it's only 5 shades of awesome! I never knew Hellcat but LOL the previews are so awesome!

Nocturne! LOL, I totally forgot to mention I was talking about the Exiles: Something by the Sword previews!

That's in the spotlight, too?!?!

This one?!?

Beast
09-17-2007, 08:23 PM
Affinity is thinking of Marvel Comic Presents.

Marvel Spotlight is just a magazine of interviews and comic art.

Faded
09-17-2007, 08:24 PM
Affinity is thinking of Marvel Comic Presents.

Marvel Spotlight is just a magazine of interviews and comic art.

Oh, ha! I see. I'm totally getting MCP Finn.

Thanks Beast.

Affinity
09-17-2007, 08:26 PM
Nocturne! LOL, I totally forgot to mention I was talking about the Exiles: Something by the Sword previews!

That's in the spotlight, too?!?!

This one?!?

Affinity is thinking of Marvel Comic Presents.

Marvel Spotlight is just a magazine of interviews and comic art.

Oh, ha! I see. I'm totally getting MCP Finn.

Thanks Beast.

!!!

Thanks Beast. Sorry!

Beast
09-17-2007, 08:26 PM
!!!

Thanks Beast. Sorry!
No problem. Easily done with all the different titles to keep track of. :)

ProfeZZor X
09-17-2007, 08:28 PM
"The school is overrun by a mysterious new player who enlists one of the X-Men’s oldest foes. And when Cyclops learns who has the baby, he’s forced to make a tough decision."

You mean to tell me that this line from the Uncanny solicitation doesn't have "Emma" written all over it? ...She already decieved the X-Men with the location of Destiny's Diaries.

Option "B"... I could be waaaaayyyy off. :confused:

Faded
09-17-2007, 08:30 PM
"The school is overrun by a mysterious new player who enlists one of the X-Men’s oldest foes. And when Cyclops learns who has the baby, he’s forced to make a tough decision."

You mean to tell me that this line from the Uncanny solicitation doesn't have "Emma" written all over it? ...She already decieved the X-Men with the location of Destiny's Diaries.

Option "B"... I could be waaaaayyyy off. :confused:

It could be.

I just think Emma betraying at this point would be...silly.

And then we'd all blame it on Negasonic Teenage Warhead.

Brian M.
09-17-2007, 08:31 PM
It could be.

I just think Emma betraying at this point would be...silly.

And then we'd all blame it on Negasonic Teenage Warhead.

Cable....CAAAAAAAABLE!!!

Cyclops bitch slaps him and sends him back to the Askani.

Beast
09-17-2007, 08:33 PM
"The school is overrun by a mysterious new player who enlists one of the X-Men’s oldest foes. And when Cyclops learns who has the baby, he’s forced to make a tough decision."

You mean to tell me that this line from the Uncanny solicitation doesn't have "Emma" written all over it? ...She already decieved the X-Men with the location of Destiny's Diaries.

Option "B"... I could be waaaaayyyy off. :confused:
The "Mysterious New Player" worries me. Introducing a new villain during a mega-crossover that already features Sinister, The Marauders, The Acolytes, and the Purifiers. As well as everyone else. Going to be very packed.

Omega Alpha
09-17-2007, 08:33 PM
"The school is overrun by a mysterious new player who enlists one of the X-Men’s oldest foes. And when Cyclops learns who has the baby, he’s forced to make a tough decision."

You mean to tell me that this line from the Uncanny solicitation doesn't have "Emma" written all over it? ...She already decieved the X-Men with the location of Destiny's Diaries.

Option "B"... I could be waaaaayyyy off. :confused:

I think you're waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay off. First, because how Emma could be hiding the baby? Second, because she was never indicated to play a big role on MC. Third, because from the preview (without words) it seemed to me that Cyke was aware that Emma was hiding the Diaries somewhere else, only Kitty was fooled. And fourth, they wouldn't play the whole "is she a traitor/is she not" thing yet again.

Beast
09-17-2007, 08:33 PM
Cable....CAAAAAAAABLE!!!

Cyclops bitch slaps him and sends him back to the Askani.
You just want to see Cyclops giving his son a well-deserved spanking. :D

Beast
09-17-2007, 08:34 PM
I think you're waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay off. First, because how Emma could be hiding the baby? Second, because she was never indicated to play a big role on MC. Third, because from the preview (without words) it seemed to me that Cyke was aware that Emma was hiding the Diaries somewhere else, only Kitty was fooled. And fourth, they wouldn't play the whole "is she a traitor/is she not" thing yet again.
God, I hope not. We already got that twice this year. Enough is enough.

Faded
09-17-2007, 08:35 PM
Cable....CAAAAAAAABLE!!!

Cyclops bitch slaps him and sends him back to the Askani.

LOL!

But do you think he's the traitor AND the mysterious new player who takes control of the mansion as well AND the guy who has the baby AND the guy who takes out the trash?

Pach!
09-17-2007, 08:35 PM
The "Mysterious New Player" worries me. Introducing a new villain during a mega-crossover that already features Sinister, The Marauders, The Acolytes, and the Purifiers. As well as everyone else. Going to be very packed.

I read it not like a new character but a character that hasn't been mentioned in the crossover but not necessarily new.

Faded
09-17-2007, 08:35 PM
I read it not like a new character but a character that hasn't been mentioned in the crossover but not necessarily new.

That's how I read it as well.

Brian M.
09-17-2007, 08:36 PM
LOL!

But do you think he's the traitor AND the mysterious new player who takes control of the mansion as well AND the guy who has the baby AND the guy who takes out the trash?

Last two yes...wait...by trash do you mean Emma? But yea, I think he's got the baby, the new player is Magneto and he employs The Vanisher and the traitor is ... Bishop.

Beast
09-17-2007, 08:38 PM
I read it not like a new character but a character that hasn't been mentioned in the crossover but not necessarily new.
True. But even if it's somebody that hasn't shown up yet, having them spring up in the middle of the crossover when it's always so busy is a bit worrysome. We'll see though. I'm equal parts excited and fearful. :D

Omega Alpha
09-17-2007, 08:38 PM
You just want to see Cyclops giving his son a well-deserved spanking. :D

Scott:"Nate, you, bad, bad boy!"

Cable:"Don't talk to me like that! I'm not a kid!"

Scott: "Don't you dare raising your voice."

Cable: "Shut up, i'm older than you, you know"

Scott: "That's it!" *slaps him* "GO TO YOUR ROOM!"

Cable: "But..."

Scott: "NOW!"

Rachel: "Ouch"

Scott: "I have heard something, Ms.?"

Rachel: "Um, never mind"

:D

Beast
09-17-2007, 08:41 PM
Scott:"Nate, you, bad, bad boy!"

Cable:"Don't talk to me like that! I'm not a kid!"

Scott: "Don't you dare raising your voice."

Cable: "Shut up, i'm older than you, you know"

Scott: "That's it!" *slaps him* "GO TO YOUR ROOM!"

Cable: "But..."

Scott: "NOW!"

Rachel: "Ouch"

Scott: "I have heard something, Ms.?"

Rachel: "Um, never mind"

:D
That scene would make the whole crossover worthwhile.

Now if Cyclops can get his genitals back from Emma's Handbag, we're on the right track.

Faded
09-17-2007, 08:50 PM
Last two yes...wait...by trash do you mean Emma? But yea, I think he's got the baby, the new player is Magneto and he employs The Vanisher and the traitor is ... Bishop.

Don't bring out the brigade, but this would be a cool time for Magneto to play his cards.

TRAITOR: Beast
DADDYDAYCARE: Cable
NEW PLAYER: Wanda enlisting Magneto (or vice versa)

Brian M.
09-17-2007, 08:51 PM
Don't bring out the brigade, but this would be a cool time for Magneto to play his cards.

TRAITOR: Beast
DADDYDAYCARE: Cable
NEW PLAYER: Wanda enlisting Magneto (or vice versa)

I don't think we'll see Wanda...but maybe in a flashback...but Quicksilver could make his move here.

Omega Alpha
09-17-2007, 08:52 PM
Didn't Lowe said Wanda would be back in August or September of 2008?

Faded
09-17-2007, 08:52 PM
I don't think we'll see Wanda...but maybe in a flashback...but Quicksilver could make his move here.

That's right. There's been no mention of him so far (as far as MC goes).

Brian M.
09-17-2007, 08:54 PM
Didn't Lowe said Wanda would be back in August or September of 2008?

He said we would see her. Doesn't mean it would be current...I think Bendis is the one working w/ Wanda. Wanda's always been quite seperate from the X-Verse. Makes sense the Avengers would be where she returns.

ProfeZZor X
09-17-2007, 09:50 PM
I think you're waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay off. First, because how Emma could be hiding the baby? Second, because she was never indicated to play a big role on MC. Third, because from the preview (without words) it seemed to me that Cyke was aware that Emma was hiding the Diaries somewhere else, only Kitty was fooled. And fourth, they wouldn't play the whole "is she a traitor/is she not" thing yet again.

Look how long it took for Mystique to become a villain again...

She came to the X-Men under the same pretence as Emma... Reforming and redeeming herself.

Omega Alpha
09-17-2007, 10:11 PM
Look how long it took for Mystique to become a villain again...

She came to the X-Men under the same pretence as Emma... Reforming and redeeming herself.

Completely different situations, and you know that. And it's funny you said how long it took Mystique to become a villain again when Emma is with the X-men for nearly 15 years.

Accroître
09-17-2007, 10:12 PM
So in Astonishing..... one will not be returning? Where the heck does Astonishing fit into all the other titles? Because it looks as if everyone is still around. I always thought that the current story line took place before X-Men 200...

Omega Alpha
09-17-2007, 10:25 PM
So in Astonishing..... one will not be returning? Where the heck does Astonishing fit into all the other titles? Because it looks as if everyone is still around. I always thought that the current story line took place before X-Men 200...

No, it is set pre-Messiah Complex, but after this current arc. Marvel keeps saying "wait until is over" only so people actually believe they are not been spoiled by MC and decide to buy the last issues. But it is and we have been spoiled.

ClanAskani
09-17-2007, 11:25 PM
Cable vs Cyclops in Messiah Complex would be great. I would like to see them become the next Xavier vs Magneto.

But would it really be that tough of a decision for Scott to decide to take out Cable if he's already accepted that Nathan is dead?



Polaris leads the Starjammers and the Imperial Guard into battle


Go Lorna!



WHAT IF? X-MEN: THE RISE & FALL OF THE SHI'AR EMPIRE
Written by CHRISTOPHER YOST
Penciled by LARRY STROMAN
Cover by OLIVIER COIPEL

This will probably be very good, but I’m getting kinda sick of uberpowered Vulcan.

I’d rather see What The?! Vulcan Becomes Phoenix

Erik Lehnsherr
09-17-2007, 11:56 PM
-MEN: MESSIAH COMPLEX - MUTANT FILES
Written by ERIC J. MOREELS, CHAD ANDERSON, STUART VANDAL, DAVID WILTFONG, SEAN MCQUAID, CHRIS BIGGS, MICHAEL HOSKIN, MIKE FICHERA, RONALD BYRD & MADISON CARTER
Cover by SCOTT KOLINS
What's up with that whole Phoenix/Jean Grey business? Is Illyana Rasputin really back from the dead? Why can’t the Shi’Ar and the Starjammers just get along? And what the heck is a Predator X? Find out in X-MEN: MESSIAH COMPLEX MUTANT FILES – featuring profiles on teams like X-Factor Investigations, the New X-Men, the Exiles and Excalibur; new friends and foes such as Darwin, Armor, Anole, Korvus, Daken and Kimura; plus Cassandra Nova, Selene, Trish Tilby, the Savage Land Mutates, Mammomax, the Marauders and even a bonus X-Men Roster Update!
48 PGS./Rated T+ …$3.99

Jean Grey can't be back! Tell me it's not true! And the Messiah Complex books in general sound very good..it seems X-Factor is in the middle of this whole thing.

ProfeZZor X
09-18-2007, 06:48 AM
Completely different situations, and you know that. And it's funny you said how long it took Mystique to become a villain again when Emma is with the X-men for nearly 15 years.

Has it been that long? ...My how time flies.

The Sword Is Drawn
09-18-2007, 06:57 AM
Has it been that long? ...My how time flies.

Well, technically as an X-Man actually much shorter. But if you count Generation X...

Daithi
09-18-2007, 07:08 AM
Scott:"Nate, you, bad, bad boy!"

Cable:"Don't talk to me like that! I'm not a kid!"

Scott: "Don't you dare raising your voice."

Cable: "Shut up, i'm older than you, you know"

Scott: "That's it!" *slaps him* "GO TO YOUR ROOM!"

Cable: "But..."

Scott: "NOW!"

Rachel: "Ouch"

Scott: "I have heard something, Ms.?"

Rachel: "Um, never mind"

:D

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/2959/rckidjn2.th.jpg (http://img217.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rckidjn2.jpg)

soulkiller
09-18-2007, 07:29 AM
I'm a little disappointed that the solicts all seem to focus on Layla and Madrox - what about the rest of the characters actually playing a role? I'm sure they are, but it seems to be all about these two in December.

jarrod
09-18-2007, 07:35 AM
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/2959/rckidjn2.th.jpg (http://img217.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rckidjn2.jpg)
I loved that Annual... shame Pearson never made it to regular Uncanny artist as planned.

Brian M.
09-18-2007, 07:41 AM
Jean Grey can't be back! Tell me it's not true! And the Messiah Complex books in general sound very good..it seems X-Factor is in the middle of this whole thing.

Um....I didn't see a damn thing in that solicit about Magneto and his Crazy Bunch...must not be important.

streator
09-18-2007, 10:21 AM
i'm getting:

uncanny x-men 493
x-factor 26
new x-men 45
x-men 206
astonishing x-men 24
x-men: emperor vulcan 4

beyond this, i'm picking up:

nova 9

and maybe what if? rise and fall of the shi'ar empire. i still don't know about that one.

frog
09-18-2007, 10:23 AM
All these goodies would come out in December when I have to do Christmas shopping and pay for my car tag as well. :rolleyes: I'll just roll into the new year complete broke.

kate-pryde
09-18-2007, 10:24 AM
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/2959/rckidjn2.th.jpg (http://img217.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rckidjn2.jpg)

I love that! They're so cute!

Henry T.
09-18-2007, 10:32 AM
Well Jean being in her White Phoenix costume on that cover at least tells us that someone is paying attention.

Shes not 'dead' in the conventional sense. Shes on a higher plane doing her White Phoenix stuff.

They should just bring her back or at least show us what she is doing in the White Hot Room.

I wonder how they are going to explain/interpret the Jean/Phoenix connection in Mutant Files too.

Jean's last 'Official' Handbook bio (Book of the Dead) ignored her childhood Phoenix manifestation (Classic 42), encounter with Force as Marvel Girl (Hidden Years 8/9), Phoenix healing the M'Kraan Crystal, Inferno and Judgment Wars where she had a spark of the Phoenix, her use of the Phoenix in X-Men Forever, Here Comes Tomorrow, and her status as an Omega mutant and a White Phoenix of the Crown.

That bio also reduced her sublot in Morrison's run to one sentence.

The Phoenix Force bio just mentioned that it had touched Jean before the shuttle incident but did not go into detail and left out X-Men Forever and Here Comes Tomorrow.

Again Jean's big Phoenix story in New X-Men was reduced to like one sentence and Endsong only got a couple sentences, Yet the Amber Hunt/Ultraverse stuff got a huge paragraph.

Erik Lehnsherr
09-18-2007, 10:45 AM
Um....I didn't see a damn thing in that solicit about Magneto and his Crazy Bunch...must not be important.

Nah..but I saw something about Sinister pimp slapping Cyclops and the X-Men down like nobodies. Now...that's gonna be great to read.:evilsmile Not to mention Lorna is carrying the weight in the Emperor Vulcan limited.

kate-pryde
09-18-2007, 10:45 AM
The cover for Emperor Vulcan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/5093/vulcan4dk9.th.jpg (http://img217.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vulcan4dk9.jpg)

OMG! That's amazing!!!!!

Erik Lehnsherr
09-18-2007, 10:47 AM
Rachel Grey might be screwing the timeline...that solicit made it sound like she's doing something big.

Brian M.
09-18-2007, 10:49 AM
Nah..but I saw something about Sinister pimp slapping Cyclops and the X-Men down like nobodies. Now...that's gonna be great to read.:evilsmile Not to mention Lorna is carrying the weight in the Emperor Vulcan limited.

I missed part of Cyclops getting slapped by Sinister...

She is? Funny...I seem to recall during that briefing in issue 1 that it was Alex Summers doing the leading...

CaptainCanada
09-18-2007, 11:04 AM
The cover for Emperor Vulcan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/5093/vulcan4dk9.th.jpg (http://img217.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vulcan4dk9.jpg)

OMG! That's amazing!!!!!
I think giving her version of the Phoenix a more distinctive colour is a good idea.

Daithi
09-18-2007, 11:10 AM
Rachel Grey might be screwing the timeline...that solicit made it sound like she's doing something big.

It refers to the "end of all that is" which is general Phoenix/M'Kraan crystal stuff.

Erik Lehnsherr
09-18-2007, 11:14 AM
I missed part of Cyclops getting slapped by Sinister...

She is? Funny...I seem to recall during that briefing in issue 1 that it was Alex Summers doing the leading...

You didn't read the solicit in this thread, did you?:D Lorna is taking over.....

It refers to the "end of all that is" which is general Phoenix/M'Kraan crystal stuff.

Ah yes..the Phoenix force is the only thing capable of equalling the power of the M'Kraan Crystal.

Mitteloss
09-18-2007, 11:14 AM
She is? Funny...I seem to recall during that briefing in issue 1 that it was Alex Summers doing the leading...


No, did you see the solicitation for issue 4!? You probably didn't read it properly. It says POLARIS is leading the Starjammers AND the Imperial Guard into battle!

It's going to be great to see Lorna show her leadership skills. This time, it's not just for one team, it's for the Starjammers and the entire Imperial Guard, that's going to be the best!

Brian M.
09-18-2007, 11:16 AM
No, did you see the solicitation for issue 4!? You probably didn't read it properly. It says POLARIS is leading the Starjammers AND the Imperial Guard into battle!

It's going to be great to see Lorna show her leadership skills. This time, it's not just for one team, it's for the Starjammers and the entire Imperial Guard, that's going to be the best!

She's only doing that b/c Alex, her man, is off fighting something more important.

Mitteloss
09-18-2007, 11:18 AM
She's only doing that b/c Alex, her man, is off fighting something more important.

Yes, that's probably true. But it's the perfect chance for her.

And Rachel will finally get revenge on the people who killed the Greys!

Erik Lehnsherr
09-18-2007, 11:20 AM
Alex is apparently getting beat down by this new superior force along with Vulcan..Lorna is calling the shots and carrying the issue. Should be a great read.

Pach!
09-18-2007, 11:21 AM
LOL. Whatever. Havok, Cyclops and Polaris will all be doing something in their issues.

Faded
09-18-2007, 11:25 AM
I'm a little disappointed that the solicts all seem to focus on Layla and Madrox - what about the rest of the characters actually playing a role? I'm sure they are, but it seems to be all about these two in December.

The way I see it is that Layla and Jamie's subplot will run through the issues, but other stuff is going that they can't really solicit yet. Look at how brief X-Men's is -- again.

Carey does so many interviews anyway we should get enough to chew on by the time it comes. :)

I do hope the rest of the X-Factor team isn't shut out though. Not a word from Rahne (other than the promo image for X-Force, Monet, or Sy yet.

DarthCyclopsRLZ
09-18-2007, 11:30 AM
Alex is apparently getting beat down by this new superior force along with Vulcan..Lorna is calling the shots and carrying the issue. Should be a great read.

You make it sound as if she wouldn't get owned just the same. :p

jester1436
09-18-2007, 11:32 AM
Alex is apparently getting beat down by this new superior force along with Vulcan..Lorna is calling the shots and carrying the issue. Should be a great read.

Yes, Lorna is totally carrying the issue, what with the Rachel Grey Blue Phoenix cover and no Lorna in sight.

Poor Lorna, can't even get the cover for her big push in the mini. :(

Erik Lehnsherr
09-18-2007, 11:32 AM
Luckily for her fans..she doesn't have to. That's Alex and Vulcan's job. And the Rachel part is just gonna be some big splash page or the last couple of pages. The story will be carried by Lorna and the Starjammers with come cut ins to Alex and Vulcan getting destroyed most likely.

jester1436
09-18-2007, 11:34 AM
Luckily for her fans..she doesn't have to. That's Alex and Vulcan's job. And the Rachel part is just gonna be some big splash page or the last couple of pages. The story will be carried by Lorna and the Starjammers with come cut ins to Alex and Vulcan getting destroyed most likely.

Okay, Destiny.

DarthCyclopsRLZ
09-18-2007, 11:36 AM
Luckily for her fans..she doesn't have to. That's Alex and Vulcan's job.

Ah. At least you're not kidding yourself. Cause pointing and laughing at people getting owned by Omega-ish characters hardly seems sporting.

And the Rachel part is just gonna be some big splash page or the last couple of pages.

Most likely.

The story will be carried by Lorna and the Starjammers with come cut ins to Alex and Vulcan getting destroyed most likely.

Not sure Alex/Gabe will have as little pannel time as you seem to think. Oh well.

Erik Lehnsherr
09-18-2007, 11:49 AM
Okay, Destiny.

I have read these kind of plots for YEARS. You'll see...it's pretty evident. And maybe Alex/Vulcan gets a little more screentime but it will probably be more action than dialogue and there is no way the issue is revolving around Rachel. It's seems to be a last page/panel type of thing.

Faded
09-18-2007, 12:00 PM
NEW WARRIORS SOLICIT REVEALED:
Sofia is alive(!!!!) and joins. But she's not revealed to be a Skrull, nor does the real Sofia punch Skrull-Sofia in the face. :(

jarrod
09-18-2007, 12:03 PM
Where are the other solicits and covers coming from?

Brett P
09-18-2007, 01:19 PM
NEW WARRIORS SOLICIT REVEALED:
Sofia is alive(!!!!) and joins. But she's not revealed to be a Skrull, nor does the real Sofia punch Skrull-Sofia in the face. :(

I wonder what powers SINO will get?

Faded
09-18-2007, 01:29 PM
Where are the other solicits and covers coming from?

I don't know if CBR has them yet, but Newsarama does.

--see below--

EDIT: Because I'm patriotic, [url=http://comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=11862]here[/b] is CBR's release of December's Solicits! Enjoy! <3

I wonder what powers SINO will get?

What's SINO? :o

I feel like I should know what that means. :o

Dizzy D
09-18-2007, 01:33 PM
What's SINO? :o

I feel like I should know what that means. :o

My guess is Sofia In Name Only.

Brett P
09-18-2007, 01:35 PM
What's SINO? :o

I feel like I should know what that means. :o

My guess is Sofia In Name Only.

Yep, that's the one! :D

And yeah, the full solicits are up on CBR, thread is in the Marvel forum.

Faded
09-18-2007, 01:52 PM
Here's the Exiles cover, which is also on CBR's updated full solicit version.

http://comicbookresources.com/news/preview2.php?image=solicits/marvelcomics/200712/exiles-100.jpg

My guess is Sofia In Name Only.

Yep, that's the one! :D

And yeah, the full solicits are up on CBR, thread is in the Marvel forum.

Aaaaah! Good one! :D

Brett P
09-18-2007, 01:54 PM
Here's the Exiles cover, which is also on CBR's updated full solicit version.

Ohhh please tell me we're not losing Blink and TJ for good?!! :(

Aaaaah! Good one! :D

:D

Novaya Havoc
09-18-2007, 02:23 PM
Here's the Exiles cover, which is also on CBR's updated full solicit version.

http://comicbookresources.com/news/preview2.php?image=solicits/marvelcomics/200712/exiles-100.jpg





Aaaaah! Good one! :D

Say BAI!!!! to Blink, Exiles!

HellooOOOooOo SAGE!

ibrakeforchinwe
09-18-2007, 06:50 PM
The cover for Emperor Vulcan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/5093/vulcan4dk9.th.jpg (http://img217.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vulcan4dk9.jpg)

OMG! That's amazing!!!!!

That is more than amazing! Its its its the $#!+!!!!

Oh how I love Rachel and her temper.

ClanAskani
09-18-2007, 08:46 PM
That is more than amazing! Its its its the $#!+!!!!

Oh how I love Rachel and her temper.

I'm glad Rachel is finally going after those responsible for the Greys' death sentence.

The whole issue sounds fantastic, with Lorna leading the Starjammers and the Imperial Guard, Alex & Vulcan together and Rachel going crazy. But I hope they aren't all separated for the whole issue and doing their own things. Hopefully Alex or Lorna are there to talk Rachel down.

CmX
09-18-2007, 09:32 PM
Tan is really bad at covers IMO a lot of the time he crams it all awkwardly, but that cover is pretty sweet.

ProfeZZor X
09-18-2007, 09:46 PM
Tan is really bad at covers IMO a lot of the time he crams it all awkwardly, but that cover is pretty sweet.

What.... Are you hepped up on goof balls or something? Tan's work is amazing.

CmX
09-19-2007, 02:06 AM
What.... Are you hepped up on goof balls or something? Tan's work is amazing.

It can be... sometimes. A lot of the times.. no it's not amazing. Sorry