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sabongero
09-16-2007, 04:15 PM
Which of the following Green Lantern of sector 2814 do you want to be a member of the current incarnation of the Justice League ?

Hal Jordan ?
Kyle Rayner ?
John Stewart ?
Guy Gardner ?

sinjection
09-16-2007, 04:17 PM
100 votes for John Stewart, the best Green Lantern ever :)

nuclearman
09-16-2007, 04:35 PM
I prefer John in a team setting .... I think Hal is now more suited to being on his own away from the team.

sabongero
09-16-2007, 04:44 PM
Although bringing back Hal Jordan is what drew me back to reading comic books after almost 2 decades away from them. John Stewart on the animated Justice League/Justice League Unlimited has grown on me. In a team setting, I would pick John Stewart.

Taskmaster
09-16-2007, 05:49 PM
Hal is my favorite GL, but he's already got his own book for his adventures, I would let John take the membership in the JLA, plus it's a nice nod to the animated universe, as long as they don't manipulate him into a relationship with Hawkgirl - yuck

Jim
09-16-2007, 07:13 PM
Can I vote for the John Stewart from the animated series, as opposed to the version in the comics...? :)

Jack Zodiac
09-16-2007, 08:23 PM
Guy Gardner, the greatest Green Lantern ever!

CaptainCanada
09-16-2007, 08:33 PM
I think Hal and John splitting the duties makes sense, since they're both responsible for the sector. If it came down to just one, I'd pick John, since Hal has his own book, and Guy and Kyle are featured in GLC.

BeastieRunner
09-16-2007, 09:03 PM
Could we move Mogo over? Please?

Jack Zodiac
09-16-2007, 09:06 PM
Yeah, screw gravity! I think Mogo should move in right next to Earth.

Bored at 3:00AM
09-16-2007, 09:38 PM
I think all the various Earth GLs should have a rotating spot on the JLA, with a different GL every couple story arcs. However, if I had to choose one, it makes more sense to give John Stewart the spot while Hal Jordan stars in the solo book and Guy & Kyle star in the Corps book. Everybody gets a spotlight and is well represented.

Fatguy
09-16-2007, 11:32 PM
I loves me some Hal Jordan, but we need Guy in the League!

Babylon23
09-16-2007, 11:42 PM
John should definitely get the spot. He's the only GL who doesn't have a regular gig in a title. He's a great character and deserves some of the spotlight, especially now that McDuffie is writing JLA.

Johnny_Luck
09-16-2007, 11:48 PM
How about we have a Battle royal that ends in a 4 way tie, that way everyone knows they are equal in power and the JLA can be GL free.

sinjection
09-17-2007, 12:20 AM
Hal is my favorite GL, but he's already got his own book for his adventures, I would let John take the membership in the JLA, plus it's a nice nod to the animated universe, as long as they don't manipulate him into a relationship with Hawkgirl - yuck

While I didn't find the relationship between the animated John Stewart and Shayera Hol "yucky" at all - it was well-executed in my opinion - I don't think that relationship should be replicated in the comic, especially since Kendra has Roy Harper cooties all over her.

If John Stewart is to be romantically linked to anyone in the JLA, that person should absolutely be Mari Jiwi McCabe. She's exciting and gorgeous. Roy Harper already had his time with Mari buried underground, beneath tons of rubble in a story that accomplished absolutely nothing. Maybe the boring Meltzer wanted to convey a sense of Roy Harper's appeal to females or something. I hope Mari wasn't overly impressed. Harper wears a stupid costume and utilizes a bow and arrow as his primary weapon of choice. No comparison to Stewart's streamlined GL uniform and powerful Ring.

I'm happy that guy is off the book. While I very much enjoyed the artwork in the Marriage Special issue, I hope Ed Benes remains as illustrator for the book.

Hatut Zeraze
09-17-2007, 12:21 AM
I can't vote. I don't want to encourage any of that this Green Lantern vs that Green Lantern nonsense.

I'm actually OK with all of them. Whichever one the current writer wants to use is OK with me.

BYC
09-17-2007, 01:23 AM
Good gods, John is winning by a landside so far. I'm amazed frankly. I guess JLU had quite an impact on all who have voted.

Christopher Cross Is God
09-17-2007, 02:51 AM
While I didn't find the relationship between the animated John Stewart and Shayera Hol "yucky" at all - it was well-executed in my opinion - I don't think that relationship should be replicated in the comic, especially since Kendra has Roy Harper cooties all over her.

If John Stewart is to be romantically linked to anyone in the JLA, that person should absolutely be Mari Jiwi McCabe. She's exciting and gorgeous. Roy Harper already had his time with Mari buried underground, beneath tons of rubble in a story that accomplished absolutely nothing. Maybe the boring Meltzer wanted to convey a sense of Roy Harper's appeal to females or something. I hope Mari wasn't overly impressed. Harper wears a stupid costume and utilizes a bow and arrow as his primary weapon of choice. No comparison to Stewart's streamlined GL uniform and powerful Ring.

I'm happy that guy is off the book. While I very much enjoyed the artwork in the Marriage Special issue, I hope Ed Benes remains as illustrator for the book.

Agreed, although I didn't care for the Stewart/Hawgirl romance being pushed so far as to linking that relationship to the beginning of the Hawkman/Hawkgirl legacy. I thought that was overkill.

Anyway, John Stewart is the best GL of sector 2814 in terms of JLA membership. He's more of a team player. He's the Magic Johnson to those three Larry Birds.

sinjection
09-17-2007, 06:49 AM
Agreed, although I didn't care for the Stewart/Hawgirl romance being pushed so far as to linking that relationship to the beginning of the Hawkman/Hawkgirl legacy. I thought that was overkill.

"Ancient History" did appear to be something of a stretch. What I realize is that the animated JL/JLU characters were based upon the actual comic book characters. They weren't the same characters. Shayera Hol and the other Thanagarians had natural wings which were part of their body and through which, they could feel physical pain.

The animated Carter Hall seemed to be a concession to those fans of the animated JLU who absolutely wanted to see the comic book representation of their favorite JLA characters written into the show. Kyle and Hal made cameos....which made their fans delerious as 1963 schoolgirls getting their first glimpse of the Beatles. And for those Hawkman fans dissatisfied with JLU Shayera's lover and betrothed "Hro Talek", Carter Hall was written into the show. But this Carter Hall, while closely replicating the true Carter Hall of the comic books, was not Shayera Hol's "reincarnated lover".

The "contaminating" of the comic book "Hawkman/Hawkgirl legacy" came about because viewers of the JLU animated program/fans of the JLA comic book couldn't understand - or refused to understand - that the JLU characters were not the JLA characters. I doubt that the comic book world will ever see Rex Stewart - Warhawk. However, that character exists in the animated DCU as a testament to the love between the animated Shayera Hol and the animated John Stewart.


Anyway, John Stewart is the best GL of sector 2814 in terms of JLA membership. He's more of a team player. He's the Magic Johnson to those three Larry Birds.

I agree. I hope McDuffie - who is a fine writer - remembers that while introducing into the JLA comic book, elements of what made the JL/JLU animated cartoon so successful - that the JLA comic book is separate from the JLU animated program. Kendra is not Shayera. While I would love to see the comic book John Stewart's power manifested by his eyes glowing green as they did in the animated program, comic book John Stewart is not animated JLU John Stewart. I believe that the "Magic Johnson" analogy is correct. Comic book John Stewart is not only more of a team player, but his skill in using the Ring's power seems to be more intricate and dazzling than the other Earth Lantern's have exhibited.

Carter Hall
09-17-2007, 09:36 AM
I prefer John in a team setting .... I think Hal is now more suited to being on his own away from the team.

Completely agree. They haven't done anything with John since Hal's return, while Hal has become a very interesting character in his own right.

Kintales
09-17-2007, 10:51 AM
I think Hal and John splitting the duties makes sense, since they're both responsible for the sector. If it came down to just one, I'd pick John, since Hal has his own book, and Guy and Kyle are featured in GLC.

Completely agrees with you. John's fans can finally read about (catch up on)his furthur developments, trials and characterization in JLA.

Ms. M
09-17-2007, 01:47 PM
It is hard to choose which GL should be on the JLA. They all have a history with the team. I enjoy Hal's history and interactions with the current JLA roster, but I like John and he needs a book to regularly appear in. So let them split the duty with occasional appearances by Guy and Kyle.

I agree with sinjection that Vixen would be a fine romantic choice for John in the JLA. She is more spontaneous than he is, so there would be some good friction. But Mari is still a mature woman, which Kendra/Hawkgirl is not, and it is hard to imagine John fooling around with someone who is barely out of her teens.

MythicBrawn
09-17-2007, 01:58 PM
I think there should only be one GL. Having a backup makes sense but having 4 GLs is plain silly. Rayner could have stayed as a GL or passed the role to Stewart. Hal should have stayed dead and that means not being the Spectre either. Guy should have retained his Warrior identity. DC had one GL and then they messed it up. No wonder its universe is such a mess.

Fatguy
09-17-2007, 02:02 PM
I think there should only be one GL. Having a backup makes sense but having 4 GLs is plain silly. Rayner could have stayed as a GL or passed the role to Stewart. Hal should have stayed dead and that means not being the Spectre either. Guy should have retained his Warrior identity. DC had one GL and then they messed it up. No wonder its universe is such a mess.

I agree, I like all 4, but I wish only Jordan was GL. Jordan's personality is the most tied into the Green Lantern persona, so I would want it to be him.

The other characters are all great personalities, give them seperate powers and build them up as individual characters, I would be ok with that. Especially Guy and Jon, they are cool enough characters to be able to break away from the GL mythos and make their own.

Hawkman
09-17-2007, 02:58 PM
I can't vote. I don't want to encourage any of that this Green Lantern vs that Green Lantern nonsense.

I'm actually OK with all of them. Whichever one the current writer wants to use is OK with me.
My sentiments exactly. I don't really care which one is in the League as long as one of them is. They're completely interchangeable as far as I'm concered. Different personalities, for sure, but for the purposes of why I want one on the team, interchangeable all the same.

And touching on the HG/GL thing from JLU, I loved it at first. In my opinion, it's pretty apparent that Jonesy from the Hawkworld series inspired Timm and co. here. The character was even an ex-marine turned police officer. However, I grew very tired of the relationship (HG/GL) by "Starcrossed," and usually found myself rolling my eyes any time it was brought up thereafter. I'd hate to see it creep its way into Justice League, though I highly doubt it will.

As for "Ancient History," I personally hated it. I would've rather they had just left Carter out of the series altogether than to have brought in the multi-personality stalker they practically made him out to be. Interesting to note that it was actually Geoff Johns himself, the man I chiefly credit for retconning Carter's history into such a large ball of awesomeness, that helped pen that story. Only contributes to my overall disappointment with it, though.:(

Jeeyell
09-17-2007, 04:18 PM
Usually, I'd pick Hal but all the right reasons point to John, so I pick John. Plus, I haven't really liked the limited screen time Hal has had in this series. He really should be butting heads with the big three rather than hanging in background.

Cheers.

Xero
09-17-2007, 04:28 PM
Make mine John Stewart as well.

Maestro
09-17-2007, 04:34 PM
I want Guy having to follow Batman's orders

Thnikkaman
09-17-2007, 04:36 PM
In the order of how much I want them on the team:

1: John Stewart. Mostly because I loved him in the cartoon.

2: Kyle Rayner. He had that whole "Holy crap, I'm suddenly drumming for the Beatles" thing going, which was really endearing.

3: Guy Gardner. Every team needs a "He's a jerk, but he's OUR jerk" character.

4: G'nort. Every team needs a mascot.

5: Hal Jordan. Come on... what does he REALLY add to the team dynamic that one of the other Leaguers doesn't already?

Raker616
09-17-2007, 09:44 PM
So is everybody ok with replacing Batman with Nightwing, Superman with Steel, and Wonder Woman with Donna Troy since the trinity all have solo books right?.

sabongero
09-17-2007, 10:20 PM
John Stewart has endeared himself to viewers in the Justice League cartoon. It's a no-brainer.

sinjection
09-18-2007, 01:37 AM
It is hard to choose which GL should be on the JLA. They all have a history with the team. I enjoy Hal's history and interactions with the current JLA roster, but I like John and he needs a book to regularly appear in. So let them split the duty with occasional appearances by Guy and Kyle.

And on those occassions when John is not serving with the JLA, then he should absolutely be prominently featured in other GL publications. There is no reason why a character as dynamic as John Stewart should be languishing in comic book character limbo.

I agree with sinjection that Vixen would be a fine romantic choice for John in the JLA. She is more spontaneous than he is, so there would be some good friction. But Mari is still a mature woman, which Kendra/Hawkgirl is not, and it is hard to imagine John fooling around with someone who is barely out of her teens.

Mari is the best romantic choice for John Stewart as far as a comic book coupling is concerned. The animated version of the GL/Hawkgirl romance worked fine. Apparently their son Warhawk is the result of that romance and that's where the GL/Hawkgirl romantic connection should end.

I'm no fan of Winter/Summer relationships. I realize such relationships are none of my business, but that's my personal opinion about them nonetheless. Rod Stewart has had a longtime relationship, had a child with and recently married a woman who is probably younger than his son. George Clooney - he's got to be in his 50's by now, is dating a woman 28 years old. Rep. Presidential Candidate Fred Thompson is 66. Thompson's wife is 40.

Now, those women are adults. Apparently, age is not an issue where they're concerned. Now, how old is Hawkman Carter Hall? I read one Hawkgirl publication - she was illustrated sprawled out on her bed wearing only a top and very skimpy panties, eye candy for the fanboys out there - anguishing over the fate of Carter Hall and acting as if she was very much in love with him at that time. If Carter Hall and Kendra hooked up, it would be the same case of an older man "fooling around with someone who is barely out of her teens" wouldn't it?

I hope McDuffie keeps John Stewart out of that whole Hawkgirl/Red Arrow/Power Girl/Hawkman mess. I think it's silly anyway. John Stewart deserves better than that. He deserves a beautiful, classy female love interest like Mari Jiwe McCabe and the type of battle action that will boost him into the respect his character deserves.

Greg Anderson
09-18-2007, 06:41 AM
So is everybody ok with replacing Batman with Nightwing, Superman with Steel, and Wonder Woman with Donna Troy since the trinity all have solo books right?.

Heck yeah, I'd go for that!

Alex L
09-18-2007, 07:17 AM
So is everybody ok with replacing Batman with Nightwing, Superman with Steel, and Wonder Woman with Donna Troy since the trinity all have solo books right?.

- Yes
- Yes
- Don't care

And Hal is not on the level of the Trinity.

Hawkman
09-18-2007, 01:47 PM
Now, how old is Hawkman Carter Hall? I read one Hawkgirl publication - she was illustrated sprawled out on her bed wearing only a top and very skimpy panties, eye candy for the fanboys out there - anguishing over the fate of Carter Hall and acting as if she was very much in love with him at that time. If Carter Hall and Kendra hooked up, it would be the same case of an older man "fooling around with someone who is barely out of her teens" wouldn't it?
Carter's pretty darn old in terms of years, past lives notwithstanding, which would easily push him over the millennium category of aging. However, not long after he was brought back from limbo on Thanagar, Dr. Midnight said his phsyiology was right around that of a 25-year old's. Kendra, at the time, was said to be 20. So I wouldn't exactly say he's rocking the cradle (they already hooked up near the end of Rann/Thanagar, by the way), at least not in terms of appearance.

You also have to remember that at the time, Kendra was still inhabited by Shiera's soul, which heavily contributed in drawing her to Carter that much more. And if you're talking about the scene I believe you're talking about (and yeah, it was pure cheesecake), then this was also after they had already consummated their relationship and fought in a war alongside one another. She wasn't just some kid who had fallen head over heals for her "professor" or anything of the sort; there was a well-established history between them by that point.
I hope McDuffie keeps John Stewart out of that whole Hawkgirl/Red Arrow/Power Girl/Hawkman mess. I think it's silly anyway. John Stewart deserves better than that. He deserves a beautiful, classy female love interest like Mari Jiwe McCabe and the type of battle action that will boost him into the respect his character deserves.
I wholeheartedly agree with you. Kendra doesn't work for John at all. She's completely different from JLU's Shayera, and it would be a mistake to try and turn Kendra into her just to try and relive that thoroughly played-out scenario. Plus, the sooner she's back with Carter, the happier I'll be, and throwing another player into the mix would only slow that process down. But again, I seriously doubt Mr. McDuffie has any plans whatsoever on doing this.

That said, I actually enjoyed the Mari/John relationship on JLU just as much if not more than the HG/GL relationship when it first started. I only wish it had been used in a more independent manner, instead of always being a threesome of her, John, and Shay. And in the world of comics, Vixen remains a very cool character that, like John, could really use some character development. Making them the premiere couple of the League would give both of them plenty of face time to help accomplish this, I'm sure. Which brings me back to the original purpose of this topic, as this is the one reason why that, if I absolutely had to choose, I'd probably choose John to be the team's GL.

Jazzy Jay
09-18-2007, 04:08 PM
So is everybody ok with replacing Batman with Nightwing, Superman with Steel, and Wonder Woman with Donna Troy since the trinity all have solo books right?.

That actually sounds pretty fun. But you can hardly use that analogy. The only comic characters who are really iconic outside of their superhero identities are Superman, Batman, and Spider-Man. Hal Jordan is nowhere near that level, no matter how many times you say he is.

matt_hatyber
09-18-2007, 04:16 PM
the real question is... whos going to be the sinestro member in the injustice legaue??


buy for the jla id say guy, but he would suck in a team, so john

comicstar100
09-18-2007, 08:13 PM
John was good in the animated league, but his last run on the comic was underwelming to say the least. He just wasn't used correctly. I hope the writers do more with him this time around since he apparently is now in the league at least for a few issues.

Raker616
09-18-2007, 09:29 PM
That actually sounds pretty fun. But you can hardly use that analogy. The only comic characters who are really iconic outside of their superhero identities are Superman, Batman, and Spider-Man. Hal Jordan is nowhere near that level, no matter how many times you say he is.

Funny how John fans keep changing the argument first it's because well Hal already has a title, then it's because all GL's are alike so no biggie, then it's because he works the best with a team. All are false arguments the fans use since Hal isn't the only character that has a solo title, all GL's aren't created equal, and Hal is a founder of the JLA.

DayWing
09-18-2007, 09:47 PM
So is everybody ok with replacing Batman with Nightwing, Superman with Steel, and Wonder Woman with Donna Troy since the trinity all have solo books right?.

Nightwing - Yeah man
Steel - Why not?
Donna - No problem

I always would have liked a league where the big 3 were just a form of leadership committee not on active duty but brought in for heavy duty stuff only. That way Nightwing can be the field leader and bring the league to new heights

mattx110
09-18-2007, 09:50 PM
That actually sounds pretty fun. But you can hardly use that analogy. The only comic characters who are really iconic outside of their superhero identities are Superman, Batman, and Spider-Man. Hal Jordan is nowhere near that level, no matter how many times you say he is.

Funny how John fans keep changing the argument first it's because well Hal already has a title, then it's because all GL's are alike so no biggie, then it's because he works the best with a team. All are false arguments the fans use since Hal isn't the only character that has a solo title, all GL's aren't created equal, and Hal is a founder of the JLA.

well, there's more than one person doing the arguing. john fans aren't part of a unified front.

DayWing
09-18-2007, 09:53 PM
That actually sounds pretty fun. But you can hardly use that analogy. The only comic characters who are really iconic outside of their superhero identities are Superman, Batman, and Spider-Man. Hal Jordan is nowhere near that level, no matter how many times you say he is.

Funny how John fans keep changing the argument first it's because well Hal already has a title, then it's because all GL's are alike so no biggie, then it's because he works the best with a team. All are false arguments the fans use since Hal isn't the only character that has a solo title, all GL's aren't created equal, and Hal is a founder of the JLA.

All right all right. You caught me. The real reason I want John is because he was bald in the cartoon and I am losing my hair!:evilsmile

Just messing with you man. For me, I like all the GLs. Kyle is my fav, but he will be in GLC with Guy. The two of them are the main stars. John is either a guest star or backup in the solo title. This gives him a chance to shine. Thats the real reason I would prefer John in the JLA. Not because he is my fav or that I think he is the best GL.

Christopher Cross Is God
09-18-2007, 10:23 PM
The animated Carter Hall seemed to be a concession to those fans of the animated JLU who absolutely wanted to see the comic book representation of their favorite JLA characters written into the show. Kyle and Hal made cameos....which made their fans delerious as 1963 schoolgirls getting their first glimpse of the Beatles. And for those Hawkman fans dissatisfied with JLU Shayera's lover and betrothed "Hro Talek", Carter Hall was written into the show. But this Carter Hall, while closely replicating the true Carter Hall of the comic books, was not Shayera Hol's "reincarnated lover".

The "contaminating" of the comic book "Hawkman/Hawkgirl legacy" came about because viewers of the JLU animated program/fans of the JLA comic book couldn't understand - or refused to understand - that the JLU characters were not the JLA characters. I doubt that the comic book world will ever see Rex Stewart - Warhawk. However, that character exists in the animated DCU as a testament to the love between the animated Shayera Hol and the animated John Stewart.

I actually liked Hro Talek, I thought he was cool as hell. Definitely more of a badass than JLU's Carter Hall, who was alright but a bit "awkward."

I can see why some may not have liked the whole Hro Talek concept, but I didn't mind.

Jack Zodiac
09-18-2007, 10:52 PM
Funny how John fans keep changing the argument first it's because well Hal already has a title, then it's because all GL's are alike so no biggie, then it's because he works the best with a team. All are false arguments the fans use since Hal isn't the only character that has a solo title, all GL's aren't created equal, and Hal is a founder of the JLA.

How about this one?

I'm a huge Green Lantern fan, and a bigger Hal Jordan fan, and I'd rather see John on the League because I know any Hal Jordan anybody wrote for any book in the past five years has been crap, save for Darwyn Cooke, and I'd rather he not show up at all than show up fawning all over Roy Harper gushing about the good ol' days. A good characters starts at home, and right now, Geoff Johns' Hal Jordan is a pale charicature of what he could and should be, and until he starts getting some life breathed into him in his own book, he should limit his appearances outside of it lest other writers follow Geoff's lead and Hal remains a cardboard character for another fifteen years.

Or, y'know, !@#$ both of 'em and bring in Guy.

Tom
09-19-2007, 06:15 AM
Funny how John fans keep changing the argument first it's because well Hal already has a title, then it's because all GL's are alike so no biggie, then it's because he works the best with a team. That's probably because you're talking to different people. They didn't all get together and decide "Okay, THIS is officially why we want John in the League!"

LordAllMighty
09-19-2007, 10:42 AM
I can't vote. I don't want to encourage any of that this Green Lantern vs that Green Lantern nonsense.

I'm actually OK with all of them. Whichever one the current writer wants to use is OK with me.

I agree, I'm cool with all four Green Lanterns in the League.:D

Raker616
09-19-2007, 11:30 AM
How about this one?

I'm a huge Green Lantern fan, and a bigger Hal Jordan fan, and I'd rather see John on the League because I know any Hal Jordan anybody wrote for any book in the past five years has been crap, save for Darwyn Cooke, and I'd rather he not show up at all than show up fawning all over Roy Harper gushing about the good ol' days. A good characters starts at home, and right now, Geoff Johns' Hal Jordan is a pale charicature of what he could and should be, and until he starts getting some life breathed into him in his own book, he should limit his appearances outside of it lest other writers follow Geoff's lead and Hal remains a cardboard character for another fifteen years.

Or, y'know, !@#$ both of 'em and bring in Guy.

If your not liking Geoff's Hal then I can't help you, Hal hasn't been written this well since the '80's. The last 15 plus years aside from JLA Year One and a couple of other stories has been horrible, Hal is actually acting like himself now as opposed to some old, tired, washed up hero, that he's been portrayed as for the last decade plus.

Jack Zodiac
09-19-2007, 11:36 AM
Well, I guess if you're used to reading about him being written like crap, sure, it's all cupcakes and sprinkles.

elena_fms_13
09-19-2007, 12:05 PM
Dude Hal is the best but after reading these responses I can see why D.M. is goin to use John. Plus i love his work on Justice League the animated show

pariah-1972
09-19-2007, 12:19 PM
I really prefer Hal cause he has more history with the league and is best buds with Green Arrow (even tho hes not in this configuration)
you people don't seem to remember that Jlu John Stewart is completely different from the one in the comics.

Jamie
09-19-2007, 12:43 PM
So is everybody ok with replacing Batman with Nightwing, Superman with Steel, and Wonder Woman with Donna Troy since the trinity all have solo books right?.

Well, Nightwing has his own book too (and so does Robin, for that matter) so I'd rather see somebody else. Maybe the Ryan Choi Atom?

Steel didn't do much for me, but I'm intrigued by the new Infinity Inc series, so sure.

Donna Troy doesn't interest me -- but neither does Wonder Woman, so it's a wash. Maybe Maxima or Firehawk is around to play the token powerful female?

I've gone on record before as saying I'd rather read a League without the Trinity for precisely the reason you state above. Heck, my ideal league would have Firestorm and Captain Atom in it.

Although, in all honesty, I wouldn't mind Batman sticking around to play a role similar to him in "Batman & The Outsiders", or Martian Manhunter in the Detroit JLA or JLATF.

sinjection
09-19-2007, 12:50 PM
I really prefer Hal cause he has more history with the league and is best buds with Green Arrow (even tho hes not in this configuration)
you people don't seem to remember that Jlu John Stewart is completely different from the one in the comics.

Some of us do. And while I enjoyed the characterization of John Stewart/JLU, I enjoy John Stewart/DC Comics just as much, if not more.

DC Comics John Stewart is an educated man, a sensitive man, a brave man and a resourceful man. In these aspects, he does not differ from JLU/John Stewart. However, where JLU/John Stewart was a military man who as JLU/Katma Tui said, "used his ring like a sledgehammer", DC Comics John Stewart is perhaps more skillful and precise in the use of the ring's power than is either Hal or Guy and is more creative and precise than is Kyle.

DC Comics John Stewart is way overdue for his day in the sun. I'm ready to sit down to some McDuffie JLA fun :D

pariah-1972
09-19-2007, 01:16 PM
Some of us do. And while I enjoyed the characterization of John Stewart/JLU, I enjoy John Stewart/DC Comics just as much, if not more.

DC Comics John Stewart is an educated man, a sensitive man, a brave man and a resourceful man. In these aspects, he does not differ from JLU/John Stewart. However, where JLU/John Stewart was a military man who as JLU/Katma Tui said, "used his ring like a sledgehammer", DC Comics John Stewart is perhaps more skillful and precise in the use of the ring's power than is either Hal or Guy and is more creative and precise than is Kyle.

DC Comics John Stewart is way overdue for his day in the sun. I'm ready to sit down to some McDuffie JLA fun :DI don't man i know next to nothing about Stewart cept what i read online.
call me old fashioned but i really liked it when the ring could only do hard light objects now it can read an analyze like a computer and can fetch you you're coffee and morning slippers too.

Tom
09-19-2007, 01:20 PM
How about this one?

I'm a huge Green Lantern fan, and a bigger Hal Jordan fan, and I'd rather see John on the League because I know any Hal Jordan anybody wrote for any book in the past five years has been crap, save for Darwyn Cooke, and I'd rather he not show up at all than show up fawning all over Roy Harper gushing about the good ol' days. A good characters starts at home, and right now, Geoff Johns' Hal Jordan is a pale charicature of what he could and should be, and until he starts getting some life breathed into him in his own book, he should limit his appearances outside of it lest other writers follow Geoff's lead and Hal remains a cardboard character for another fifteen years.

Or, y'know, !@#$ both of 'em and bring in Guy.
Uh...yeah. How about it? Is there a point?

If your not liking Geoff's Hal then I can't help you,Has anybody asked you to help them?

mike627
09-19-2007, 04:13 PM
John Stewart,is the GL of earth to alot of casual fans I have been to bookstores and have watched people pick a JLA book and see either Hal or Kyle and say "that's not GL." so,I think McDuffie made a good call here.:cool:

Jazzy Jay
09-19-2007, 05:54 PM
That actually sounds pretty fun. But you can hardly use that analogy. The only comic characters who are really iconic outside of their superhero identities are Superman, Batman, and Spider-Man. Hal Jordan is nowhere near that level, no matter how many times you say he is.

Funny how John fans keep changing the argument first it's because well Hal already has a title, then it's because all GL's are alike so no biggie, then it's because he works the best with a team. All are false arguments the fans use since Hal isn't the only character that has a solo title, all GL's aren't created equal, and Hal is a founder of the JLA.

I'm not really even a fan of John; I wouldn't care if Hal ends up being the dude in JLA (although it would be nice if there was some diversity). I was simply taking exception to the "Hal=Superman" and "John=Steel" part of your argument. You seemed to be suggesting that Hal is an icon on the level of Clark Kent or Bruce Wayne, and I don't know anyone who would make that argument. And after JLU, John is definitely closer to Hal's status in terms of fame (though most fans who don't think of John as GL think "white guy with graying temples" rather than Hal specifically, but I digress).

COMIC GEEK
09-21-2007, 03:07 AM
While I love all the gl's from earth. I think its high time that GUY gets another turn on the roster. Its been years.

Noticing the votes, I see we have alot of john fans.. It's all good, I like john as well. Just wanted MR.Gardner to get some JLA PAGE TIME.

joint venture
09-21-2007, 12:38 PM
Kyle is tired. This whole Sinestro Corps War will send him back to earth, "mission accomplished", to look after his people. I see him in the JLA next year after the big bang.

The others are either starving for adventure, to have fun, serve and protect. So they should be in space. And we need mind/centered John Stewart around.

Plus guys, who else can or will be an Alpha Green Lantern? Who can undertake that process in the future?

sabongero
06-07-2008, 01:51 AM
It has been a while. And this thread was before the Sinestro Corps War. I wonder if readers still feel the same way as below. So I am just bumping this up if John is still the fave of recent readers.

Hal Jordan: 23
Kyle Rayner: 24
John Stewart: 56
Guy Gardner: 10

It's obviously most readers want John to be the the G.L. memner of the JLoA. Perhaps because of the animated JL/JLU series, and they were endeared with the character.

COMIC GEEK
06-07-2008, 06:06 AM
well considering theres gonna be two jla teams now

hal on one and guy on the other

K-DoG7p7
06-07-2008, 06:23 AM
All 4 ... rotating.. so there is always one on JLA duty..

stelok
06-07-2008, 06:55 AM
Hal Jordan, hands down.

It has been a while. And this thread was before the Sinestro Corps War. I wonder if readers still feel the same way as below. So I am just bumping this up if John is still the fave of recent readers.

Hal Jordan: 23
Kyle Rayner: 24
John Stewart: 56
Guy Gardner: 10

It's obviously most readers want John to be the the G.L. memner of the JLoA. Perhaps because of the animated JL/JLU series, and they were endeared with the character.

Yes, I don't remember John Stewart being a Justice League member before the animated JL/JLU series, When did he become a JL member in the DC continuity?

MythicBrawn
06-07-2008, 07:40 AM
John Stewart should have the role. Hal Jordan should have stayed dead.

Alex L
06-07-2008, 07:40 AM
I know for sure he was a member during Winick's run, when Kyle left Earth along with Jade for a... I dunno, a year our time?

But that was still pretty recent, and I don't know if it matched up with when the JLU started up.

stelok
06-07-2008, 07:59 AM
I know for sure he was a member during Winick's run, when Kyle left Earth along with Jade for a... I dunno, a year our time?

But that was still pretty recent, and I don't know if it matched up with when the JLU started up.


No, I'm pretty sure Justice League animated series came in existence already long before Winick's run, As far as I know, Justice League cartoon was mainly the reason that John Stewart was inducted into the membership roster of the Justice League of America during Joe Kelly's run.

robbieglenn
06-07-2008, 03:31 PM
Kyle, Ive always liked him more than most GLs

SUPERECWFAN1
06-07-2008, 03:44 PM
I also voted for my favorite Kyle Rayner.

SensorBoy
06-07-2008, 03:47 PM
Natu. FTW.

Not a 2814-er, but FTW anyway.

HeckBoy
06-07-2008, 04:20 PM
I prefer John in a team setting .... I think Hal is now more suited to being on his own away from the team.

John Stewart on the animated Justice League/Justice League Unlimited has grown on me. In a team setting, I would pick John Stewart.
Same here. It's kinda weird, I grew up w/ Kyle as my Green Lantern, but I can't picture him back on the JLA team. Yet with John, I grew to know him from the JLU cartoon, so for me, he just seems to work better on a team. Plus they've decided to bring in some of his cartoon background (like making him a Marine prior to his architect days), so him being on a team just feels familiar anyway.

sabongero
06-10-2008, 05:05 PM
Hmm interesting. So far since this thread was bumped up a week ago, 6 were for Hal, 10 for Kyle, 4 for John, and 4 for Guy.

Overall, John is still in the lead but Kyle has garnered more than double than the rest of the other GLs of sector 2814.

I'm sure those that voted for John still have nostalgic tendencies towards the JL/JLU animated cartoon. I wonder why there are more now for Kyle than either Guy or Hal. Just wondering.

Bored at 3:00AM
06-11-2008, 07:52 AM
I'm sure those that voted for John still have nostalgic tendencies towards the JL/JLU animated cartoon. I wonder why there are more now for Kyle than either Guy or Hal. Just wondering.

People have nostalgic tendencies toward the Morrison JLA comic would be my guess. Those are amongst the best Kyle stories in my book.

Which is not to say that people aren't nostalgic towards the Giffen/DeMatties JLI, but a lot of fans just don't like Guy. The point of the character was to be an unlikeable jerk-off.

And Hal hasn't been a major player in the Justice League comic in years. Hell, the last time he played a prominent role in a Justice League story was New Frontier--and that wasn't even a Justice League story.

Verdammt
06-11-2008, 11:47 AM
I voted for Hal, just because I love how he interacts with Bruce.

TradePaperbackTraitor
06-11-2008, 11:55 AM
People have nostalgic tendencies toward the Morrison JLA comic would be my guess. Those are amongst the best Kyle stories in my book.

Which is not to say that people aren't nostalgic towards the Giffen/DeMatties JLI, but a lot of fans just don't like Guy. The point of the character was to be an unlikeable jerk-off.

And Hal hasn't been a major player in the Justice League comic in years. Hell, the last time he played a prominent role in a Justice League story was New Frontier--and that wasn't even a Justice League story.

I'm willing to bet a lot of people voted based on the Green Lantern that first drew them in. Stewart in the cartoon, Rayner in the Morrison JLA run, Guy in the Giffen/Dematteis JLI run, or Hal for the oldest fuddy duddies :biggrin: and the newest readers who are just getting acquainted with GL and the new Geoff Johns series.

sabongero
06-16-2008, 02:05 AM
People have nostalgic tendencies toward the Morrison JLA comic would be my guess. Those are amongst the best Kyle stories in my book.

Which is not to say that people aren't nostalgic towards the Giffen/DeMatties JLI, but a lot of fans just don't like Guy. The point of the character was to be an unlikeable jerk-off.

And Hal hasn't been a major player in the Justice League comic in years. Hell, the last time he played a prominent role in a Justice League story was New Frontier--and that wasn't even a Justice League story.

You know, I'm going to check out this Morrison JLA comics someday. Because the only Kyle JLA I've seen is the six parter on JLA Classified.

sabongero
07-01-2008, 10:30 AM
Hal Jordan: 23
Kyle Rayner: 24
John Stewart: 56
Guy Gardner: 10

When itr was re-upped we now have:

Hal: 33 (+10)
Kyle: 36 (+12)
John: 64 (+8)
Guy: 14 (+4)

Since upping the thread, there's been slightly more for Kyle, than Hal, and a third more than John. At this point Guy is mute, unless you have the JLoA with Booster Gold, Blue Beetle (Kird), and Batman punching him.

Is there less votes now for John Stewart because the JLU cartoon has been finished for quite some time, and that people are starting to distance their memory from the show compared to last year ?

And Kyle being part of the GLC again instead of the atrocity they did to him by making him Ion or Parallax, helped to regain the fans support for this character.

Hal Jordan will always be Hal Jordan...and the redemption aspect of the character will just help other readers sympathize with him.

Starpiper
07-02-2008, 12:44 AM
If I may, I'll put my vote down for John being the GL of the Justice League of America. From what I've heard, there's going to be another Justice League team, post-Final Crisis (simply Justice League) with Hal leading it, so having John on the JLA will allow for there to be a GL on both teams.

Meanwhile, Kyle and Guy can continue rocking it over in Green Lantern Corps, where they do a great job of being the seasoned veterns to Natu, Iolande, and the rest.

jv2k
07-02-2008, 08:48 AM
No, John just doesn't have his own book and he needs to be seen somewhere. Kyle and Guy are in GLC, Hal has Green Lantern, and John should get JLA.

sabongero
07-28-2008, 10:45 AM
Hal Jordan: 23
Kyle Rayner: 24
John Stewart: 56
Guy Gardner: 10

When itr was re-upped we now have:

Hal: 39 (+16)
Kyle: 38 (+14)
John: 68 (+2)
Guy: 14 (+4)

I wonder when "In Blackest Night" starts and finishes next year, if we will still have 4 Green lanterns of sector 2814. Or will one of them die ?

Lupek
07-28-2008, 04:10 PM
Hal.

But if it had to be one of the other three, then Guy.

I think John should be commanding Lanterns in the GLC book.

Andy_Mizzle
07-29-2008, 03:28 PM
I'd prefer Guy in the league because it would call for some pretty funny dialogue.

Lemurion
07-29-2008, 05:49 PM
I didn't care for the cartoon that much but I think John is the best choice for the JLA. Hal can be in James Robinson's JL with Ollie and the regular JLA can have John. It could lead to a great dynamic between the two that you couldn't get with any other pair of GLs.

What would be particularly interesting would be John calling Hal out for taking things into his own hands as John wanted to do when he first got the ring. I just think John would work best.

If it weren't for the other JL book I'd go for an alternation between John and Hal. They both work very well with the team.

Kyle is other people's favorite GL, not mine so I'm happier with the other ones; though as an aside, my favorite GL shouldn't be in the JL or JLA.

:)

K-DoG7p7
07-29-2008, 06:01 PM
The Green Lantern...



As in.. one of them.. does not matter who.. just as long as one of them is there