The Halo 3 thread

[1WEBHEAD]

C'mon guys! Halo 3 comes out in 9 days and nobody has made thread? Oh well, I decided to make this thread for all to come speculate, chat, and go nuts over everything Halo 3.

Once 25th rolls in, talk about the story freely WITH spoiler tags.

So let that be a fair warning to those who might be a little behind most of us.
If you wish to keep your eyes virgin-like, avoid this thread until you beat the game or unless, you know, don't care about the story and just want to hear about the goods on the multiplayer.

So discuss about the 4 player co-op mode. I heard that they will introduce 2 new characters just so gamers can hook up with eachother. 4 way style!:D

Discuss what's up with Cortana and that plant thing from the last 5 minutes of Halo 2.

Talk about what Master Chief looks like under the helmet? How will he put up with the helmet hair?

What's your gamer tag on Xbox live?:)

Talk about the Beta and what they need to improve on nad what you'd like to see.

How will you customize your spartan soldier? Will you give him a nice new helmet?

Can we hold 2 swords at once? What about the new vehicles?

Talk about how you can record the previous match and fast foward,rewind, slow mo anywhere on the map you playing so you can show your friends what a total badass you are.:cool:

Let it begin!

[Spidey-kid1]

C'mon guys! Halo 3 comes out in 9 days and nobody has made thread? Oh well, I decided to make this thread for all to come speculate, chat, and go nuts over everything Halo 3.

Once 25th rolls in, feel free to talk about the story freely without spoiler tags.

So let that be a fair warning to those who might be a little behind most of us.
If you wish to keep your eyes virgin-like, avoid this thread until you beat the game or unless, you know, don't care about the story and just want to hear about the goods on the multiplayer.

So discuss about the 4 player co-op mode. I heard that they will introduce 2 new characters just so gamers can hook up with eachother. 4 way style!:D

Discuss what's up with Cortana and that plant thing from the last 5 minutes of Halo 2.

Talk about what Master Chief looks like under the helmet? How will he put up with the helmet hair?

What's your gamer tag on Xbox live?:)

Talk about the Beta and what they need to improve on nad what you'd like to see.

How will you customize your spartan soldier? Will you give him a nice new helmet?

Can we hold 2 swords at once? What about the new vehicles?

Talk about how you can record the previous match and fast foward,rewind, slow mo anywhere on the map you playing so you can show your friends what a total badass you are.:cool:

Let it begin!


I'm looking forward to this but I haven't even played halo 2 yet. I have some serious catching up to do.

Also, why didn't someone make this thread yet. You'd think a game this popular would have had a thread as soon as word of it was released. :D

[Dark Soul # 7]

I'm not going to buy, my friend is the x-box person in my social circle.

But i am going to go with when they start selling it. Mostly because they will also offer pan pizza and free game time.

[1WEBHEAD]

I'm looking forward to this but I haven't even played halo 2 yet. I have some serious catching up to do.

Also, why didn't someone make this thread yet. You'd think a game this popular would have had a thread as soon as word of it was released. :D

Yeah, I thought so too, but I guess not everyone is that crazy about here.

I'm glad Halo's coming out in 9 days. I feel real bad for my Gears of War game since I've been raping it since I got it on Xbox Live. It's the only game I play online. I 'm sure Halo 3 and COD4 will change that.:)

I'm not going to buy, my friend is the x-box person in my social circle.

But i am going to go with when they start selling it. Mostly because they will also offer pan pizza and free game time.

That's cool. I don't think I'm going to wait in line at midnight for the game, but I'll be the first one there in the morning.:)

[Thorlief]

I might very well get it, although I think the Halo serie is seriously overrated. Looks stellar tho, let's see if plays as good

[1WEBHEAD]

I might very well get it, although I think the Halo serie is seriously overrated. Looks stellar tho, let's see if plays as good

I can't argue with Halo being over-rated because it is, but it's still a great game in my book and a big fan of Bungie's Giant Green Cash Cow.:)

That bubble shield sure does look nifty. Too bad that when I finally got my Xbox live up and running, the Hlao Beta was taken down.:(

But it was okay because I had a good time playing Crackdown.:D

[Pwood]

I might very well get it, although I think the Halo serie is seriously overrated. Looks stellar tho, let's see if plays as good

I have to agree with the overrated comment. Just another first-person shooter, except everyone looks the same....

[1WEBHEAD]

I have to agree with the overrated comment. Just another first-person shooter, except everyone looks the same....

what do you mean everyone looks the same?:confused:

BTW: you guys, look what Pwood found!

Isn't she beautiful?!:D I wish I could afford her. . . (http://cgi.ebay.com/Halo-3-Spartan-Master-Chief-Armor-Costume-Helmet-Suit_W0QQitemZ170148309645QQihZ007QQcategoryZ60361 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

[Spidey-kid1]

what do you mean everyone looks the same?:confused:

BTW: you guys, look what Pwood found!

Isn't she beautiful?!:D I wish I could afford her. . . (http://cgi.ebay.com/Halo-3-Spartan-Master-Chief-Armor-Costume-Helmet-Suit_W0QQitemZ170148309645QQihZ007QQcategoryZ60361 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet! That thing is the best costume for anything I've ever seen.

[Perry Holley]

Once 25th rolls in, feel free to talk about the story freely without spoiler tags. Actually, I would prefer that you spoil-tag anything spoilerrific even after the 25th, at least for a little bit.

Not everyone will be getting the game at the same time, and not everyone will be playing through it at the same pace.

[1WEBHEAD]

Actually, I would prefer that you spoil-tag anything spoilerrific even after the 25th, at least for a little bit.

Not everyone will be getting the game at the same time, and not everyone will be playing through it at the same pace.

Aw, alright. Spoiler tags it is. . .

So now that we're using spolier tags, if you come across Master Chief's real face, don't post the pic, just link it and warn everybody before.

Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet! That thing is the best costume for anything I've ever seen.

Yeah, it is isn't it?!:D I would LOVE if it was actually green like Master Chief's but it's still very sweet looking.:cool:

[1WEBHEAD]

Well my gamertag is MARVEL4DAN, so look me up if you want to go at it online.

I'll probably would be playing the story mode for a while to get my fingers and thumbs familiar with the game. Plus, I haven't played Halo 2 in ages. . .

[Gargus]

Re-edit: put in spoiler tags a SECOND time - Perry

Just so you know master chief dies towards the end and a woman takes his place to finish it.

Its not bad but feels tacked on.

Wasnt to long but there was something in there about master chief being a geneticaclly created test by united nations space command to combat the covenant and is put to sleep when he isnt needed, thats why he was thawed out at the start of the first game and not really in hyper sleep or whatever it was.

They reveal his origin in this since they didnt really in the games up till now.

But since you can create more I guess he wont be really dead and replaced by this chic

[Kid Kamikaze10]

Gargus, please don't tell me you just spoiled a piece of Halo 3.......

Without a spoiler tag, before the 25th.........

Good god.....

[1WEBHEAD]

Gargus, I hope you're joking around with Master Chief dying cause if you're not, you are one major A$$hole.

Good god indeed Kamikaze.:mad:

[Pwood]

Just so you know master chief dies towards the end and a woman takes his place to finish it.

Its not bad but feels tacked on.

Wasnt to long but there was something in there about master chief being a geneticaclly created test by united nations space command to combat the covenant and is put to sleep when he isnt needed, thats why he was thawed out at the start of the first game and not really in hyper sleep or whatever it was.

They reveal his origin in this since they didnt really in the games up till now.

But since you can create more I guess he wont be really dead and replaced by this chic



It does come in green, when you READ the auction it says the winner can opt to have it painted green if they wish.

Totally not cool. :evilangry

[Thorlief]

Uh Oh! Thank gods I dont play Halo for the storyline

[Murrocko]

Uh Oh! Thank gods I dont play Halo for the storyline

Heheh, ditto.

[twilight]

I didn't even know Halo had a storyline.

-Twi

[Thorlief]

heh yeah, besides.

[Xero Kaiser]

I didn't even know Halo had a storyline.

-Twi

You miss all the cutscenes or something?

[twilight]

You miss all the cutscenes or something?

Who watches cutscenes?

All I know is you're a robot(?) and you shoot aliens.

-Twi

[Thorlief]

Master Chief is not a robot, is A BALD SPACE MARINE

(had to say it even if its wrong, I know)

[Murrocko]

Hahahaha, yea I played through both Halo's and can't recall any storyline what so ever.

[asloveislost]

lol something about some rings that wipe out life, and some weaker headcrab rip offs infesting everything, and some cyborg man that every "hardcore" gamer wants to worship as their god.
oh and also in halo 2 you got to play as the very race you were trying soo hard to kill in the first halo.
kind of defeats the purpose of halo 1 if you're suddenly playing on the side of the aliens you were trying to kill.

[Bored at 3:00AM]

While I really enjoyed the first two Halo games, I don't think the story was really their strong point, it was the gameplay. The story was pretty much the same old Starship Trooper/Aliens thing we've seen over and over again. Nothing really new there. When I hear guys like Bendis talking about how Halo is the new Star Wars, I have to shake my head.

The new Pac-Man or Space Invaders, certainly. The new Star Wars? Are you high?

[Thorlief]

meh, Halo's gameplay is overrated as well. It works decently in multiplayer and that's it, but I had more fun with RTCW which was THE online FPS

[StoneGold]

The new Pac-Man or Space Invaders, certainly. The new Star Wars? Are you high?You make it sound like Star Wars was something new. The only thing that made Star Wars significantly different from what came before was the marketing.


Besides, it's usually GI Joe that Halo is being compared to these days. And that's more for the comic crossover potential. As in if they could get every person who is purchasing Halo 3 on opening day to also buy a copy of the comic, it's the best selling American comic in years.

[Bored at 3:00AM]

You make it sound like Star Wars was something new. The only thing that made Star Wars significantly different from what came before was the marketing.

While Lucas certainly borrowed heavily from Jack Kirby, Akira Kurosawa, Flash Gordon, JRR Tolkein and Joseph Campbell, the pop cultural impact of Star Wars cannot be compared to Halo. Star Wars changed how movies were made and how audiences reacted to them in an unprecedented way. Star Wars, for better or worse, is one of the most influential Pop Cultural Icons of modern history. Halo is just a really fun first-person shooter in a vast ocean of First Person Shooters.

[Kid Kamikaze10]

While Lucas certainly borrowed heavily from Jack Kirby, Akira Kurosawa, Flash Gordon, JRR Tolkein and Joseph Campbell, the pop cultural impact of Star Wars cannot be compared to Halo. Star Wars changed how movies were made and how audiences reacted to them in an unprecedented way. Star Wars, for better or worse, is one of the most influential Pop Cultural Icons of modern history. Halo is just a really fun first-person shooter in a vast ocean of First Person Shooters.

You are right, but in Halo's defense, it changed the way FPS' were played on consoles. Sure, it's run-of-the-mill compared to other PC FPS', but when those better games go to consoles (CS, RtCW, Doom, Quake, CoD, etc.), they weren't nearly as good as Halo.

So I'm mean, you are definitely right, but give respect where respect is due.

[Xero Kaiser]

Ahhh..."Overrated"...the lazy man's critique.

When I hear guys like Bendis talking about how Halo is the new Star Wars, I have to shake my head.

The new Pac-Man or Space Invaders, certainly. The new Star Wars? Are you high?

I don't see why not. Especially if he's talking about popularity

[Xero Kaiser]

Screw you, stupid double-post

[Thorlief]

Ahhh..."Overrated"...the lazy man's critique.


repetitive level design, idiotic weapon balance, short game. Not saying it's ugly, just overrated

[Jared_Humpherys]

I really wish we could call for a moratorium on the word "overrated."

It basically says "this isn't as good as you think it is, but I won't bother to say why."

It is the least constructive form of criticism or expressing opinion.

[Black Atom]

The Halo series has been providing the best multiplayer FPS experience on home console since it's debut. I don't think it's overrated.

Having said that, calling it "The new Star Wars" is a little crazy.

[1WEBHEAD]

One of my friends on XBL has already gotten his copy:

Yeah, it's as good as they say it is. . .even better! :D

He said the story mode is alot better as well as the graphics!

[marty is ruling]

Halo is the reason I own an X box.

The game is not over-rated. It has an epic storyline....and if you played the through the campaign....it plays out like a movie as far as the story goes. The music, the atmosphere are amazing.

I'm not sure what someone was talking about when they said the level design is exactly the same. They obviously never played through the campaign.

Enough about campaign....it's the multiplayer that keeps you into Halo. And Halo 3 promises to be more balanced than them all. After playing the Beta....I can tell you I am beyond excited to play.

Though I will play through the story first.

So discuss about the 4 player co-op mode. I heard that they will introduce 2 new characters just so gamers can hook up with eachother. 4 way style!
MAster Chief, Arbiter and two other Elites who will not appear in the story line in the game, but are in Halo canon.

What's your gamer tag on Xbox live?

The same as here. The same as everywhere.

Talk about the Beta and what they need to improve on nad what you'd like to see.
It was a beta.....nuff said.

Can we hold 2 swords at once? What about the new vehicles?

Nope. The swords will have a shelf life in the multi-player game now. It will be exactly the way it was in Halo2 story mode.

The Hornet is sweet. And waaaaay powerful. Too powerful for matchmaking, but it will be available for custom games.

I can't wait to see the Elephant.

[Bored at 3:00AM]

Ahhh..."Overrated"...the lazy man's critique.



I don't see why not. Especially if he's talking about popularity

Halo is as popular as Star Wars? I'm sorry, we must be living on different planets if you think Halo is in the same league as something a cultrually pervasive as Star War has been.

Keep in mind, I really like Halo. I've had a helluva time playing both of them and look forward to the third one, but calling Halo the new Star Wars is just crazy talk at this point. There's no doubt that Halo is very, very popular right now. But to suggest that Halo will continue to grow in popularity enough to reach the heights of something like Star Wars is a huge stretch.

Keep in mind that, up until a year ago, the only people who could even play Halo were people who either owned an Xbox or knew someone who did. Compare that to the ammount of people who've watched or played the Star Wars movies, cartoons and video games, the difference between the two should become abundantly clear.

Again, I'm not trying to tell you Halo is a crappy game or anything, I'm just saying that comparing to a juggernaut like Star Wars is indeed over-rating the franchise. One of the popular video games of all time? Certainly. The new Star Wars? No.

[asloveislost]

I think what people mean when they say halo is overrated is that it doesn't really live up to the hype and status that it has.
i loved halo when it first came out and played it heaps then after finishing everything on legendary it got boring as hell.
and halo 2 was just a disaster in itself with the single campaign.
if someone who wasn't dissapointed with the end of halo 2 speak up because i was feeling quite ripped off with how it ended.
+ the cutscene rendering and everything was way off.
anyway that said the live multiplayer is probably by far the best on xbox live for an FPS game.
thats why its so popular i'm guessing.
anyway once you don't like something anymore i guess you can pick up on the flaws and boringness of it.
i'm still gonna play halo 3 though because i wanna see how it all ends.
anyway thats just my opinion. :rolleyes:

[marty is ruling]

For those who believe that only people with an X box can play Halo...it's available on the PC.

I think what people mean when they say halo is overrated is that it doesn't really live up to the hype and status that it has.

Since that's the general definition of over-rated...I'd say you're right.

But Halo is not overrated. Okay, you don't like it or don't think it's that great. That's fine. However, people, who like myself play a lot of FPS and other action games as well as critics all agree that Halo is one of the best FPS out there.

The first Halo and Halo 2 are no longer fun because they are dated. That's why they make new games. Games evolve. Halo did take the FPS game in a new direction. As did Gears of War.

Halo 3 is hyped for a reason. It's sold 1 million copies without even being released yet. Halo 2 still sees hundreds of thousands of players each day.

So if critics praise it, the game is one of the best sellers and fans have nothing but good things to say about it.....how exactly is Halo overrated?

I don't want you to think I bashing you or anything...I'm just saying how ever you feel about the game....it's not overrated.

[Jared_Humpherys]

I think what people mean when they say halo is overrated is that it doesn't really live up to the hype and status that it has.



Ok, but in what way?

What statements have been made about the game do you disagree with, and why?

What aspects of the game do you feel fall flat?


Here, I'll help:

I felt the Library level in the original Halo was incredibly tedious. Repetitive level and just waves and waves of the same enemies with nothing adding to the atmosphere. The best parts of Halo's campaign was when the gameplay varied multiple times in the same level.

Halo 2's single-player campaign was a dissapointment. The two-weapon thing felt very imbalanced to what came before. And I honestly can't say for sure why, but I liked the original's multiplayer MORE than the sequel's. Maybe it's because I care less about the online aspect and more about how it feels to play split-screen with friends.

I have these issues and more, and I actually love the series. You, being a detractor, should have many more that you wish to share, right?

[Black Atom]

Yeah, I felt the larger maps, while better for online play, hurt split screen.

[marty is ruling]

I felt the Library level in the original Halo was incredibly tedious. Repetitive level and just waves and waves of the same enemies with nothing adding to the atmosphere. The best parts of Halo's campaign was when the gameplay varied multiple times in the same level.

I agree.

I hated the library level as well. In fact I pretty much hated fighting "the flood" altogether", but then I think you're supposed to hate fighting "the flood".

I did like Halo 2's campaign better than the original. And fighting "the flood" was a lot more fun than the original. I liked the idea that the lil' flood guys could reanimate "the flood" you had already killed.

The only thing I didn't like about Halo 2 was playing as "The Arbitor". It was fun for a change of pace, but I thought you played him too much through out the game.

And of course I wasn't pleased with the ending. They could have provided a better sense of closure than they did and still leave the loose ends leading to the sequel.

As far as people saying the weapons were unbalanced......I don't see how you could think that for the campaign. Mutiplayer....I can see how someone would think that.

Though I disagree with the comment the weapons were unbalanced as a whole. For every person who is a master sniper, or someone who has the host shotty or someone who is a sword hog.....there was a counter weapon or strategy.

I like Halo for the story and the multi-player, but I don't enjoy playing through games again and again. Halo is no exception. I've played through part 1 and 2 a couple of times, but it's the multiplayer that keeps the game in my x box for years. I enjoy the competition.

Though, from everything we've heard about Halo 3's campaign....this might be the type of game I will play through a few times. Just hearing about the scale of these battles. It sounds fun.

[Xero Kaiser]

Halo is as popular as Star Wars? I'm sorry, we must be living on different planets if you think Halo is in the same league as something a cultrually pervasive as Star War has been.

It's just a comparison. Star Wars was the big thing when it came out, and now Halo is.

Keep in mind that, up until a year ago, the only people who could even play Halo were people who either owned an Xbox or knew someone who did.

Didn't stop Halo 2 from having the highest grossing release in entertainment history when it was released.

Compare that to the ammount of people who've watched or played the Star Wars movies, cartoons and video games, the difference between the two should become abundantly clear.

Star Wars games don't make half the noise Halo does, and nobody thinks about the cartoons. Yeah, the amount people have watched SW in the past 30 years is a lot higher than the amount of people who've played Halo in the past 6. But nobody told you anything different.

I'm pretty sure that comment just meant that Halo is the big Sci-Fi series right now.

[Bored at 3:00AM]

It's just a comparison. Star Wars was the big thing when it came out, and now Halo is.


And my point is, it's a bad comparison. Star Wars is just too big and too influential a franchise to compare any sci-fi franchise outside of Star Trek to at this point. If Bendis had said "Halo could be the next Star Wars" or "Halo is as big as Star Wars was in 1977", I probably wouldn't have been as flabbergasted by his statement, but he didn't say any of those more reasonable statements. He said Halo is the new Star Wars. And he is on crack if he honestly believes that.

Now, in ten years time, they are making Halo movies and Halo cartoons and Halo comics and Halo toys and Halo video games year in and year out, then I will personally appologise to Brian Bendis for calling him a crack whore. In the meantime, I wish him all the luck in world living down in cracktown.

[Jake V]

I agree.

I hated the library level as well. In fact I pretty much hated fighting "the flood" altogether", but then I think you're supposed to hate fighting "the flood".

I did like Halo 2's campaign better than the original. And fighting "the flood" was a lot more fun than the original. I liked the idea that the lil' flood guys could reanimate "the flood" you had already killed.
Having played and beaten Halo 3 (gamertag: II antistar II) I can tell you this:
Fighting the flood in Halo 3 is more fun. Mostly because it happens less often, and the flood themselves are more varied than before. There's Brute-flood, and even these super-flood things that are nearly impossible to kill. I think they're scarier this time as well.

The only thing I didn't like about Halo 2 was playing as "The Arbitor". It was fun for a change of pace, but I thought you played him too much through out the game.
You're in luck. You are Master Chief throughout the entire game. Arbitor is merely your backup at various points in the game.

And of course I wasn't pleased with the ending. They could have provided a better sense of closure than they did and still leave the loose ends leading to the sequel.
This ending really gives you a sense of closure. Seriously

Though, from everything we've heard about Halo 3's campaign....this might be the type of game I will play through a few times. Just hearing about the scale of these battles. It sounds fun.
Yes. Holy crap, some of them are huge.

[asloveislost]

For those who believe that only people with an X box can play Halo...it's available on the PC.

I think what people mean when they say halo is overrated is that it doesn't really live up to the hype and status that it has.

Since that's the general definition of over-rated...I'd say you're right.

But Halo is not overrated. Okay, you don't like it or don't think it's that great. That's fine. However, people, who like myself play a lot of FPS and other action games as well as critics all agree that Halo is one of the best FPS out there.

The first Halo and Halo 2 are no longer fun because they are dated. That's why they make new games. Games evolve. Halo did take the FPS game in a new direction. As did Gears of War.

Halo 3 is hyped for a reason. It's sold 1 million copies without even being released yet. Halo 2 still sees hundreds of thousands of players each day.

So if critics praise it, the game is one of the best sellers and fans have nothing but good things to say about it.....how exactly is Halo overrated?

I don't want you to think I bashing you or anything...I'm just saying how ever you feel about the game....it's not overrated.

ok, first of all gears of war is not an FPS game...
secondly, most of my frustration with the halo series is against Halo 2, which is definatly overrated... at least with the single player campaign.
if we're talking about multiplayer on-line or not i would have a different view.
still i specifically noted that it was my opinion, but i think you would find quite a few people frustrated with halo 2s story and single player campaign but still anticipating halo 3.

[Xero Kaiser]

most of my frustration with the halo series is against Halo 2, which is definatly overrated... at least with the single player campaign.

but i think you would find quite a few people frustrated with halo 2s story and single player campaign
.

Uhh....so, how can something be overrated if a lot of people were disappointed in it?

Good God, that word gets thrown around entirely too recklessly

[Tadhg]

Uhh....so, how can something be overrated if a lot of people were disappointed in it?

Good God, that word gets thrown around entirely too recklessly

It received a 95 on metacritic, with lots of reviews giving it a perfect 100. So it makes sense that a critcially acclaimed game would be overrated if people have lots of issues with it.

[Xero Kaiser]

It received a 95 on metacritic, with lots of reviews giving it a perfect 100. So it makes sense that a critcially acclaimed game would be overrated if people have lots of issues with it.

A game doesn't have to be perfect to be good. People can have an issue with one aspect of the game and still like it

[marty is ruling]

A game doesn't have to be perfect to be good. People can have an issue with one aspect of the game and still like it

Exactly....

The ending (like the end of "The Empire Strikes Back") upset a lot of people. That doesn't mean that the whole story sucked or the whole game for that matter.

This conversation is devolving into a semantics debate.

And can people please stop lying about having the game in order to get attention. Even if you had the game......no one cares.

Back on H3....

I watched the new Vi-doc on "Forge" and that feature looks like it'll be a lot of fun to play in custom games. I like the idea of having a budget and I like the idea if a player on your team being able to drop in weapons, vehicles or items at a moments notice. It's similar to real troops getting active support on the battlefield. It'll keep the multi-player fun for a very long time.

[Tadhg]

A game doesn't have to be perfect to be good. People can have an issue with one aspect of the game and still like it

I never said that.

To rephrase: I was pointing out that his statements aren't incongruous. The game is VERY highly rated, as evidenced by the 95 metacritic score. He asserts that many people are disappointed by it. Disappointed people + Really high rankings and critical acclaim = Pretty much the definition of overrated.

[Black Atom]

I think the point is that "overrated" is not a worthwhile critique of anything. It doesn't take into account the concept that people can, and will, have differing tastes, opinions and expectations for any given thing.

Besides, the reasoning is faulty. The fact that a few people disagree with the prevailing opinion doesn't make the prevailing opinion less valid. Calling a game "overrated" is just sour grapes over the game being more popular than you think it should be.

[Tadhg]

I think the point is that "overrated" is not a worthwhile critique of anything. It doesn't take into account the concept that people can, and will, have differing tastes, opinions and expectations for any given thing.

I'm pretty sure that wasn't Xero's point. And it's as worthwhile of a critique as "It's a bad game, it sucks, it's terrible, it's great, it's wonderful, I love it, etc" And just like those other statements, it's worthless on its own, but not when reasoning is included.

Besides, the reasoning is faulty. The fact that a few people disagree with the prevailing opinion doesn't make the prevailing opinion less valid.

Just because it doesn't affect the popular opinion doesn't make the reasoning faulty. If you hate a game that's really popular, you feel that it is entirely overrated. Saying so, is just an expression of your displeasure while acknowledging the fact that it's a popular game.

Calling a game "overrated" is just sour grapes over the game being more popular than you think it should be.

I don't see a problem there.

[Xero Kaiser]

I never said that.

To rephrase: I was pointing out that his statements aren't incongruous. The game is VERY highly rated, as evidenced by the 95 metacritic score. He asserts that many people are disappointed by it. Disappointed people + Really high rankings and critical acclaim = Pretty much the definition of overrated.

Most people were only disappointed in the ending, not the game itself. Most people loved the actual game, which is why it got rated so high, but were let down by one aspect of it. That doesn't make it overrated

[Bored at 3:00AM]

I don't understand why cliffhangers in movies are generally okay with audiences, but, in video games, they're so hated.

I personally had no problem with the cliffhanger ending of Halo 2 as it was quite obvious the franchise was successful enough that Microsoft was most certainly going to bankroll another one that would have prettier graphics--where's the problem?

Same goes for Rainbow 6 Vegas. Does anyone seriously think they aren't going to make a sequel?

The only time it sucks is when they take too long to even start working on the sequel.....looking at you Knights of the Old Republic III....

[marty is ruling]

ok, first of all gears of war is not an FPS game...


It is when you aim.........yes it's a 3rd person shooter, practically it's the same animal.

I don't understand why cliffhangers in movies are generally okay with audiences, but, in video games, they're so hated.

This is where Halo and Star Wars are very similar......Empire Strikes Back left a few fans frustrated with the ending. Perhaps upon reflection they feel differently, but at the time.....

Halo is for video games what Star Wars was for movies. Soon enough Halo will be joining the Sci Fi status of Star Wars and Star Trek.

Just look at all the hype surrounding the game. Discount stores, grocery stores, market tie-ins.....Halo 3 is receiving the same reception as a Summer movie Blockbuster.

1 million copies already reserved.....likely more by now. Can you say legacy?

[Jake V]

I don't understand why cliffhangers in movies are generally okay with audiences, but, in video games, they're so hated.
When's the last time you paid $60 to see a movie?

[Bored at 3:00AM]

When's the last time you paid $60 to see a movie?

When's the last time you saw a movie that lasted about 20 hours?

And that's just the single-player campaign on one difficulty level, there's also co-op and multiplayer. Seriously, compared to seeing a movie at the cinema, the price of a video game is a bargain given how much entertainment you can get out of it.

[asloveislost]

if anyone questions about the use of the word overrated then replace that word with whatever you want im not fussed...
my point was that the single player campaign of halo 2 did not live up to the hype it was given, i was not talking about gameplay, or multiplayer.
if we were talking about how the game plays then i would agree its not bad.
the developers of halo 2 said it shouldn't have been released and they ran out of time to finish it up properly.
a few cutscene graphical issues or storyline length or issues does not significantly lower a games (such as halo which has everything else going for it) overall score.
and yes a lot of what im talking about is the ending, playing as the arbitor, the alternate storylines etc.

[asloveislost]

It is when you aim.........yes it's a 3rd person shooter, practically it's the same animal.

hmmm alright, the aiming style and controls are the same i'll agree...

[marty is ruling]

I've been following Halo 3 really closely for a year now....and after reading about the game, the additions to multi-player, the campaign and playing the Beta......I couldn't be more excited.

Call of Duty 4 will be great.......but Halo...well.....the on-line play to Halo is just superior to every FPS game out there.

You can disagree.....but numbers don't lie. COD4 will be great, but can it do what H3 will do?

[Xero Kaiser]

It is when you aim.........

No, it isn't

[asloveislost]

COD4 will be great, but can it do what H3 will do?

probably not.

[1WEBHEAD]

IMO, the Call of Duty games lack the little "HALO" moments where magical things happen in Halo, where your not going to find anywhere else like barrel rolling 8 times in mid air, plasma gernading across the map, and of corse, tea bagging.:D

[asloveislost]

Halo 3, big step up.
well done bungie, redeemed yourself.

[Bored at 3:00AM]

I haven't finished it yet, but I've been very impressed. Bungie took everything that worked about the first two and applied them to this game, with a thick coat of Next-Gen graphical power added on top.

Still not the new Star Wars, but a great game that's a heckuva lot of fun to play.

[Jared_Humpherys]

Sarah and I are almost done(we think), and are loving it.

[Karl H]

My copy is stuck in the post.

Pesky Royal Mail. Probably all on strike playing.

[Jared_Humpherys]

This is ^&%$ing awesome. (http://www.suicidegrunts.com/)

Edit: don't worry, no spoilers.

[Brock]

My copy is stuck in the post.

Pesky Royal Mail. Probably all on strike playing.


Ah bad luck, nothing's worse than that everyone-else-has-got-it-already feeling :(

[asloveislost]

This is ^&%$ing awesome. (http://www.suicidegrunts.com/)

Edit: don't worry, no spoilers.

haha thats funny as.

[DragoNinjutsu1988]

I wonder what under his helmet. Maybe it's Kyle(Gear of War) in there. Just kidding. I would trill if they have female spartan version in Halo series:D .

[Thorlief]

http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=7262&Itemid=53

:0

[4thHorseman]

Bought it yesterday, will be playing tonight when I get home from school. 9:30pm central time. Hope people may want to play

xKILL Your MoMx

http://live.xbox.com/member/xKILL Your MoMx

[1WEBHEAD]

Well I just beat the game not too long ago and here's what I have to say:

The game is flipping awesome.

You really do finish all the fights you started at the end of the first Halo. You take down the Covanent, Prophet, Flood, and Robots.

Most people who palyed the game says that Gears of War still has the best graphics but I disagree. THe game is beautiful and at times during the story mode, I forget that it still a videogame that I'm playing.

The AI kicks ass. The brutes are more cunning and tactical. Like when I charge them, guns ablazing, they throw down a bubble shield/Deployable cover/ Regenator. One thing I really like is the grunts AI. One time i killed an entire group of grunts except one and the funniest thing happened.

He took out a plasma gernade for each hand, stuck himself with them, and charged right at me! :D

I thought the last level was awesome. I loved how Bungie gave the original Halo levels an extreme makeover on the 360.

The Warthog race was awesome, the graphics were superb, the music made it feel epic, and I giggling with joy and excitement like a little girl.:D

I like the new and old weapons. They threw away the lame pistol from Halo 2 and made it better. I don't think it's the monster from Halo 1 but it's good.

As for the ending, Master Chief isn't dead. After the credits, they have him and Cortana stranded in space. The Arbitar got away safely but not them unfortunately.

Cortana says that it's finished. They stopped the flood, covenant, prophet, and halo.

She then says that it could be years until they find them.

Master chief then crawls in the pod that was from halo 1 and told cortana to wake him up when they'll need him again.

I thought it was badass.

As for not seeing Master Chief's face, now that I think of it, I'm glad Bungie didn't show us. Because they leave it to our imagination.:)

Overall the game is bad ass, I'm having a blast in Multiplayer/The Forge and Theater and I feel like I got my money's worth.

5/5

[Karl H]

Well done on spoilers Webby

But Grr the temptation to highlight....

[1WEBHEAD]

Well done on spoilers Webby

But Grr the temptation to highlight....

Fight it! I did it and so can you!:D

Seriously, you have to see/play to believe it.

None of my words can do the ending justice.:o

[Karl H]

Fight it! I did it and so can you!:D

Seriously, you have to see/play to believe it.

None of my words can do the ending justice.:o

I'd like to have

1: My copy - pesky royal mail

2: The time to play.

[Alex]

I kinda dug this more then the other halos, which i have never been kind too in the past.
My one gripe is that, after playing bioshock for 2 weeks, the game just....it doesn't look anywhere near as good as the 360's premire title should look. I know i shouldn;t focus on graphics over gameplay, but it was kinda let down in that department.

[SensorBoy]

Beat it. Loved it. Good climax to the first trilogy.

Overall: 95%


-5% for not including Maria-062 or the SPARTAN 1.5's and IIIs.

[1WEBHEAD]

I kinda dug this more then the other halos, which i have never been kind too in the past.
My one gripe is that, after playing bioshock for 2 weeks, the game just....it doesn't look anywhere near as good as the 360's premire title should look. I know i shouldn;t focus on graphics over gameplay, but it was kinda let down in that department.

Really?

I thought the game was beautiful especially the background, building, well, everything.

I thought it had the best looking fire since Dead Rising. . .

[4thHorseman]

The games fun, but I hate the gun mechanics and the online play is pathetic.

[mike12572]

great game finshed it with a friend online in about 4-6 hours maybe 9 cant remember... Great game...


and even more fun online big team battle........


multiplayer rulessssszzzz:evilsmile

[1WEBHEAD]

The games fun, but I hate the gun mechanics and the online play is pathetic.


Yeah but that's not stopping you from pooping in into your xbox 360 disk tray is it!

Yeah, I see your profile xKill Your Momx!

:p

[Karl H]

Hmm. Having completed on Normal, and now starting to play it properly on Heroic I present the following critique:

Pluses:

The AI was better
I enjoyed the ending - a nice nod to the first game and it did have a real sense of drama
The plot was pretty compelling
I loved the whole Brute Sandbox of weapons
Mongoose driving is just loads of fun!
The new Flood types were awesome and much more challenging than previous games
Nathan Fillion did some voicework!

Minuses:

Too many vehicle sections for me
Needler not dual-wieldable (but probably the right thing for multiplayer)
Plot did feel repetitive of the first 2
The equipment didn't really add much for me (maybe it will on higher difficulty levels though)



Gotta say though - this game is 10x better on Heroic than Normal.

[asloveislost]

how the hell do you do spoiler tags?

[Karl H]

It's Spoil not Spoiler in the closed brackets.

[asloveislost]

It's Spoil not Spoiler in the closed brackets.

Get ready for Halo 4 in another couple of years maybe.
Finish the game on legendary and watch after the credits, or search on youtube. Master Chief is going to have to get geared up again pretty soon. Someone tell me what planet that might be?

[asloveislost]

Also thankyou melonhead.

[Karl H]

Also thankyou melonhead.

you're welcome. It's a bit counter-intuitive.

It'll take me months to finish on Legendary. Boo...

[Jared_Humpherys]

Tank beats Ghost!

Tank beats Hunter!

Tank beats EVERYTHING!

[1WEBHEAD]

Tank beats Ghost!

Tank beats Hunter!

Tank beats EVERYTHING!

ha!

Those marines crack me up! :p

[Jared_Humpherys]

ha!

Those marines crack me up! :p

I literally shrieked with laughter when I first heard that last part.

[Doom Hammer]

There's an intangible epic feel to this game that the creators nailed perfectly. That's my favorite part of the game. Seeing the final fates of the established characters - and seeing the heroes gathering - was just so cool beyond words.

Plus stunning graphics, horrifying additions to the behaviors and appearance of the Flood, kickass new weapons and vehicles, numerous epic battles (both in the air and on the ground) that are comparable to the classic "Assault on the Control Room" fights, crazy plot twists, and an amazing story. I don't know what else to say, this game exceeded my expectations on every level.

Although 1WEBHEAD:

It's more than a little sh**** to have THAT avatar with THAT custom user title less than a week after the game was released. I saw one of your posts yesterday before I got a chance to finish the game, and it totally spoils the fate of the Chief. Pretty uncool is all I'm saying.

[StoneGold]

On the game's story -

I think it suffers a little for the same reason Return of the Jedi does. ROTJ was basically a rehash of everything from the first two movies. Now, it wrapped everything up in one big, epic package, but it still comes down to blowing up the Death Star again. The last few minutes of gameplay - yes, more epic, but incredibly similar to the ending of the first game.


It's good and fun, but there is a slight feeling of been here, done that. Because I have. Literally. It was supposed to be the same ring. Although I am slightly confused as to how, but whatever.


As to the coda, yeah, so now MC is King Arthur. It's probably a good thing they didn't show his face, though. It's not so much "leave it to the imagination," but there's nothing interesting that his face is going to show. If he has an eyepatch or something, big deal.

[4thHorseman]

Yeah but that's not stopping you from pooping in into your xbox 360 disk tray is it!

Yeah, I see your profile xKill Your Momx!

:p

*whistles innocently* :D

[StoneGold]

Wait a sec - you blow up the same ring. What about the other half-dozen rings still out there?

[tony2074]

somebody spoil the story for me.

i can't play it-my x box wont run the disc, which is brand new and clean. it tells me to put it into an xbox360 console. weird, but it pissing me off, I GOTS TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED!

[1WEBHEAD]

Wait a sec - you blow up the same ring. What about the other half-dozen rings still out there?

To my understanding:



The Profet wanted to start up all the Halos and destroy all life in the galaxy/universe.

So the Profet went to the Arc. From there he could remotely start the halos. Master Chief and the Arbitar go and stop him.

The ring we were driving in, trying to escape on our Pelican spaceship was a replacement Halo in case something happened to a Halo.

I think. It was a bit confusing but I liked it. totally badass. :D

[DF2506]

I'm having a ton of fun with Halo 3.

I like the single player, but I love the online multiplayer. Of course I never got the chance to play online muliplayer with the other Halos, so I don't know how they were, but Halo 3 online is GREAT! Lots of fun!

Btw, my name on Live is Cliff2506. I'm looking for some people to play story mode co op (either normal or heroic mode) and Forge mode with! I've only gotten to play the regular multiplayer mode so far! So if anybody wants to play co op or Forge with me, please send me an invite! :)

Man, just a great game. Even better then I thought it would be.

DF2506
" Also got Bioshock recently, which is a great game! "

[Karl H]

I've nearly done solo on Heroic. Much better game on Heroic. Can't wait for Legendary!

[1WEBHEAD]

I'm having a ton of fun with Halo 3.

I like the single player, but I love the online multiplayer. Of course I never got the chance to play online muliplayer with the other Halos, so I don't know how they were, but Halo 3 online is GREAT! Lots of fun!

Btw, my name on Live is Cliff2506. I'm looking for some people to play story mode co op (either normal or heroic mode) and Forge mode with! I've only gotten to play the regular multiplayer mode so far! So if anybody wants to play co op or Forge with me, please send me an invite! :)

Man, just a great game. Even better then I thought it would be.

DF2506
" Also got Bioshock recently, which is a great game! "

Someone is just begging to get pwned by me! The great MARVEL4DAN

!
:D
;)

[DF2506]

Someone is just begging to get pwned by me! The great MARVEL4DAN

!
:D
;)

Sounds like fun! :)

I'll send you a friend invite! Lets play story co op and/or Forge soon! :)

DF2506

[Sonicjuce]

I just got a 360 yesterday off a buddy and went and bought Halo 3. Haven't played a ton but will more this afternoon following my History test and mowing the lawn before my girlfriend drives me nuts.

What is the level most people are beating the game on? I started on heroic then a friend stopped by and we bumped it up to legendary.

Also have we started a CBR room of some sort? We should if we haven't. We should all agree to meet at a certain time and do this. I haven't set up live yet, but will sometime over the weekend into early next week. My gamer tag will likely be sonicjuce if it is available. We should really do this though it would be fun and we could brag here about how much we kicked each others ass.

Does anyone know how much it costs to make the 360 wireless? Someone told me the part was like a hundred bucks. I will likely search around on-line when I have more time if no one answers me here.

[Ramiel]

Well, I'm on the last level on Legendary and my a personal opinion is that the campaign in this one is leaps and bounds better then the first and second. It's not as drawn out as the firsts was and it's much more interesting then the second.

I actually like most the of new weapons, outside that damn Spartan Laser(for whatever reason I can't kill a thing with that outside idle turrents) and they toast me fast in a multiplayer match.

All that being said, I have to say I like this one better then it's prequels, but I still don't think it's really as good as people and review sites rave, I know I'm still in the vast minority, but it's always something I think is going to baffle me why this is so worshipped.

Anyway, still fun and it'll probably keep me entertained for a month or so

[DF2506]

I just got a 360 yesterday off a buddy and went and bought Halo 3. Haven't played a ton but will more this afternoon following my History test and mowing the lawn before my girlfriend drives me nuts.

What is the level most people are beating the game on? I started on heroic then a friend stopped by and we bumped it up to legendary.

Also have we started a CBR room of some sort? We should if we haven't. We should all agree to meet at a certain time and do this. I haven't set up live yet, but will sometime over the weekend into early next week. My gamer tag will likely be sonicjuce if it is available. We should really do this though it would be fun and we could brag here about how much we kicked each others ass.

Does anyone know how much it costs to make the 360 wireless? Someone told me the part was like a hundred bucks. I will likely search around on-line when I have more time if no one answers me here.

Great idea about a CBR room. A bunch of us could get together and go through story mode and/or Forge. Do some custom maps once and awhile too. Heck, maybe we could even form CBR teams and do the team modes once and awhile too (if we get enough people).
I bet the weekends, like Saturday or Sunday would be best for this type of thing! We could prob get some cool films for Thearter mode out of this too! :)

As for the wireless network adapter for the 360, Gamestop has it listed for $99. Pretty expensive imo. I have my 360 wired and it works fine (although for some reason it has to check the connection each time before going on. ugh).

Anyway, we have to do CBR Halo 3. My Live name again: Cliff2506.

DF2506

[jesse_custer]

I saw my roommate beat this game in five hours on his first try, and he sucks at video games.

Needless to say, I'll never play this game.

[DF2506]

^^Must have been playing on EASY because he would have been dead right away in Heroic or Legendary mode. lol!

Anyway, I played Halo 3 with 1Webhead (or Marvel4Dan as he's called there) and we played Team Slayer first. We lost team slayer (mainly because I kept dying, 1Web said) but it was still alot of fun imo. Then we played Campaign on Legendary mode. Whew. Wow. That was hard, but it was fun. We got a little ways in Legendary mode and talked a lot about comics (mainly Marvel).

Campaign mode was definitly my favorite! Had fun.

Btw, I said some a photo of us from Team slayer 1web. Also saved a pic of me as the Arbitur in campaign mode! :)

DF2506

[jesse_custer]

^^Most have been playing on EASY because he would have been dead right away in Heroic or Legendary mode. lol!

It was on normal, I believe. Regardless, if you have to play a single-player game on hard mode for it be remotely challenging (and last more than five hours), I consider it a pathetic title.

[Ramiel]

Yeah, the game isn't too tough, I've basically beat the game on Legendary in about 5 or 6 hours, by no means a walk in the park, but it's no where near impossible-feeling

[DF2506]

Well, you guys have to be a heck of a lot better gamers then me, cause I don't find easy mode on Halo 3 even that easy. And Heroic and Legendary are VERY Hard.

And multiplayer online: thats definitly the hardest!

What makes Halo 3 so great imo is the multiplayer though. Sure the single player is good, imo, but the multiplayer is GREAT. Its a lot of fun. And there are some really good players out there! :)

If your looking for a first person shooter with great single player, check out Half-Life 2 (especially the Orange Box). Thats has great single player. Or if you just want a first person shooter/rpg/adventure, I suggest Bioshock. And if you want a great multiplayer experiance, with a good but short single player, then check out Halo 3!

DF2506

[Ramiel]

Well, you guys have to be a heck of a lot better gamers then me, cause I don't find easy mode on Halo 3 even that easy. And Heroic and Legendary are VERY Hard.

And multiplayer online: thats definitly the hardest!

What makes Halo 3 so great imo is the multiplayer though. Sure the single player is good, imo, but the multiplayer is GREAT. Its a lot of fun. And there are some really good players out there! :)

If your looking for a first person shooter with great single player, check out Half-Life 2 (especially the Orange Box). Thats has great single player. Or if you just want a first person shooter/rpg/adventure, I suggest Bioshock. And if you want a great multiplayer experiance, with a good but short single player, then check out Halo 3!

DF2506

Well, FPS-wise, I think the Call Of Duty series single player is much harder, if I recall correctly I had about as much problems with COD3 on normal as H3 on Legendary, so yeah.

But if we are just talking about games without a specific genre that that are more difficult then Legendary, then that's a fairly hefty list.

Oh, yeah, I agree the multiplayer makes Halo, if it only had the single player to stand on, any one of the series, it'd be long forgotten by now. And the multiplayer can be pretty fun, but I have to say I wouldn't classify it as great, I mean it's fairly average FPS multiplayer it seems to me, well the first two anyway I've not played enough of the third to make that kind of judgment, yet.

[Xero Kaiser]

I saw my roommate beat this game in five hours on his first try, and he sucks at video games.


A) Nobody cares about your roommate beating the game on easy mode

B) Halo lasts a hell of a lot longer than 5 hours. Unless you forgot it had multiplayer and custom games/maps.

C) I like how the quality of the game itself has nothing to do with whether or not you find it "pathetic"

D) Complaining about the game not being hard unless it's on hard mode.....really?

[Kyle_Ion]

I like games that have difficulty settings, the way I am is that when I play a game with difficulty settings I always put the game on the difficulty after normal ie Hard difficulty setting. In the instance of Halo I have never played Halo 1 Halo 2 and now Halo 3 on easy, normal, heroic, i always play the game on legendary cause to me the other difficulties are way to easy.

[Titan76]

Halo 3 has already made $300 million (http://www.usatoday.com/tech/gaming/2007-10-05-halo3-millions_N.htm) since it came out. In its first 24 hours it made $170 million breaking the record held by Spider-Man 3 which was just over $150 million. Dam that's a lot.

[jesse_custer]

A) Nobody cares about your roommate beating the game on easy mode

B) Halo lasts a hell of a lot longer than 5 hours. Unless you forgot it had multiplayer and custom games/maps.

C) I like how the quality of the game itself has nothing to do with whether or not you find it "pathetic"

D) Complaining about the game not being hard unless it's on hard mode.....really?


A) It wasn't on easy.

B) Multiplayer options to me are less important than the single player experience.

C) So your opinion is automatically superior? Great logic.

D) I wasn't complaining about the game not being hard. I was complaining because I've never heard of an FPS single player normal mode lasting for a pathetic five hours. I honestly can't believe you're defending something that Down Syndrome patients could probably tackle.

[Xero Kaiser]

B) Multiplayer options to me are less important than the single player experience.

If you choose to ignore what gives the game it's replay value and then whine about the game not lasting long enough, that's on you

C) So your opinion is automatically superior? Great logic.

You came in here saying that the game sucks but you don't actually mention anything about the game itself. And to top things off, you haven't even played it yourself. So yeah, I'd say the opinion of anyone who's actually played the game for 15 seconds is automatically superior to yours

Since when were games solely rated by how many hours they take to complete? Some of the best games out there can be taken down in under 10 hours. G.R.A.W. isn't much longer than Halo and it kicked ass. Gears of War's single player was even shorter than Halo's but that didn't stop it from being good.

If you played it and didn't like it...fine. But going, "Someone else beat the game, so it sucks" is ridiculous. Hell, if you said that the game just didn't look interesting from what you saw, I'd take that more seriously that you deciding that the game sucks being it doesn't take some arbitrary amount of hours to complete

D) I wasn't complaining about the game not being hard. I was complaining because I've never heard of an FPS single player normal mode lasting for a pathetic five hours.

I have. Most action games are 5-10 hours long. It's nothing new. It might be more of an issue if the game has no replay value or multiplayer (or a crappy multiplayer) but that's not the case here

I honestly can't believe you're defending something that Down Syndrome patients could probably tackle.

Is your roommate retarded or something? Why is it such a big deal that he beat the game?

[jesse_custer]

If you choose to ignore what gives the game it's replay value and then whine about the game not lasting long enough, that's on you

I value single player more than multiplayer, and nothing is going to change that. My point is that I personally wouldn't waste time on a game with a weak single player dimension. That's all. People who like multiplayer would obviously disagree.

You came in here saying that the game sucks but you don't actually mention anything about the game itself. And to top things off, you haven't even played it yourself. So yeah, I'd value the opinion of anyone who's actually played the game for 15 seconds over yours.

I stated what I observed. Sorry, but if I watch anyone beat an FPS game in five hours for the first time, I'm not going to waste time playing it because I know it's short and rather uninvolving. It's an outdated mentality, I know, but I side with the tried-and-true old-school vision that video games should be of moderate length every time. Otherwise, what's the point? I like feeling like I've completed something that's challenging and/or lengthy. I can play Tetris if I want a short game, and there's no substitute for Tetris.

Some of the best games out there can be taken down in under 10 hours. G.R.A.W. isn't much longer than Halo and it kicked ass. Gears of War's single player was even shorter than Halo's but that didn't stop it from being good.

I wouldn't call Gears or G.R.A.W. one of the best games ever made. However, even though Gears is shorter than Halo 3, it seemed to be more innovative than Halo 3, so that scores points with me.

I have. Most action games are 5-10 hours long. It's nothing new. It might be more of an issue if the game has no replay value or multiplayer (or a crappy multiplayer) but that's not the case here

You must play weak action games then. But wait, we're not talking about action games, we're talking about the FPS genre.

Is your roommate retarded or something? Why is it such a big deal that he beat the game?

He's not that good at games, just as I said. If he can beat the game in five hours, it probably would be even shorter for me. Hell, even he was unsatisfied with what he got.

[asloveislost]

i gotta say that warthog drive at the end of the last level of halo 3 was pretty damn cool.
it was easy, but it was cool.

[mgs]

I don't play Halo, but I must admit, that commercial that's all over tv for it, the one with the 'paused effect' on the battleground...there's something terribly and also mystifyingly awesome about it.

[Thorlief]

I finally played it, and the game failed to impress me. Graphically I've seen better, and after playing MP3 with the 'mote I couldnt really feel satisfied by the analog controls. Now I'm definitely convinced the franchise isn't for me

[jesse_custer]

Graphically I've seen better

Both Bioshock and Metroid Prime 3 had superior graphics, the former from a technical standpoint and the latter from a thematic standpoint.

[Thorlief]

exactly. And still I've seen better on my pc as well

[Sonicjuce]

Both Bioshock and Metroid Prime 3 had superior graphics, the former from a technical standpoint and the latter from a thematic standpoint.

I know this isn't what I am reacting too, but just cause your roommate beat the game really isn't an issue. I got the game the middle of last week. I haven't even beat the first level. I hooked up to live and haven't stopped playing, except to play newly acquired NHL 08. I think that is more the issue then campaign.

I get you said you think the campaign mode is more important. Well that is simply an opinion. Given that this Saturday there was well over a million people on-line I think your opinion really doesn't mean much.

Also anyone want to play campaign or anything on live my name is Sonicjuce. Send me a friend invite. I play a lot with friends so we could add you onto our team and matchmaking would be much faster.

[Ramiel]

\I get you said you think the campaign mode is more important. Well that is simply an opinion. Given that this Saturday there was well over a million people on-line I think your opinion really doesn't mean much.

I think his opinions 'means' as much as yours or any of the other 1 million individual opinions you mentioned

[bigman45]

i got the game played it beat it and i must say it has the best story line out there right now its better then that bioshock crap imo! but gears of war is a little better game because of the things you can do in it . but the storey in halo 3 is F@#king rocking man . it has death every body and every thing is fighting each there

the only thing is this if you have read the books you know that there are other spartin out there i would have liked to see them in the game and i wanted to fight that big plant thing what ever it is but its cool i guess i do like how they set it up for a part 4 what ever its called

i dont know why they would make this the last halo unless MS will stop making a xbox system i don't get it thats like nintendo killing off mario :eek:

hey add me lets get play some halo3 my game tag is tizzab45 add me

[1WEBHEAD]

i got the game played it beat it and i must say it has the best story line out there right now its better then that bioshock crap imo! but gears of war is a little better game because of the things you can do in it . but the storey in halo 3 is F@#king rocking man . it has death every body and every thing is fighting each there

the only thing is this if you have read the books you know that there are other spartin out there i would have liked to see them in the game and i wanted to fight that big plant thing what ever it is but its cool i guess i do like how they set it up for a part 4 what ever its called

i dont know why they would make this the last halo unless MS will stop making a xbox system i don't get it thats like nintendo killing off mario :eek:

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Yeah, it sucks that you never fight Worldmind, the Flood leader. All he does is bother you constantly.

[Karl H]

Yeah, it sucks that you never fight Worldmind, the Flood leader. All he does is bother you constantly.

I could never see that working mechanically.

This isn't Zelda it's Halo!!!!!!!!!!!!

[1WEBHEAD]

I could never see that working mechanically.

This isn't Zelda it's Halo!!!!!!!!!!!!


I know but you never actually meet him again.

I still would have liked to fight him. Sorta like when you fight Spark after he kills Sarge. Use the Spatan Laser as Master Chief to, I don't know, fry him up a bit so the Arbitar could dig himself inside Gravemind and put a a bomb in his belly.

If you're playing on 4 player co-op, you can keep the extra 2 guys busy by having them defend MC from the endless armies of Flood...

Just a thought.

Still a hellovagame.:)

[bigman45]

:eek: the CGI was good but i can only keep talking about the story because its that good but i was a little mad that i did not get to fight no big boss battle like in part 2 now don't get me wrong i love halo 3 its a good game but no boss battle its just bord after bord thats it was it me or was the game shorter this time around

i take that back there was one boss battle at the end if you played that part then you know what i mean ...

and is this really the last halo or are they going to keep it going but just with a nother namem ?

[asloveislost]

Yeah, it sucks that you never fight Worldmind, the Flood leader. All he does is bother you constantly.

isn't it called the gravemind?

[asloveislost]

:eek: the CGI was good but i can only keep talking about the story because its that good but i was a little mad that i did not get to fight no big boss battle like in part 2 now don't get me wrong i love halo 3 its a good game but no boss battle its just bord after bord thats it was it me or was the game shorter this time around

i take that back there was one boss battle at the end if you played that part then you know what i mean ...

and is this really the last halo or are they going to keep it going but just with a nother namem ?

firstly yeah the story i guess was satisfying but nothing too special, the "boss" was a joke in my opinion but i guess you had to kill him for the stories sake, i just wish they put another boss like character in. secondly playing live is a whole other experience, a much better one than the campaign i think they just need to make more maps dammit!! :rolleyes:

also i think bungie would be stupid to stop making halo games because they've made a huge legacy out of it (its their cash cow), if they did continue they would probably stop with the flood and covenant and start with something new and fresh.
that planet at the end looks a bit mechanical who knows what it will be

[Alex]

I got past the bit where you are running around a bunker, and just got...bored.
Played around with multiplayer for a bit, had a good time with that, but i still suck at Halo.
Alex is never going to understand Halo, and i'm kinda sad about it.

[1WEBHEAD]

isn't it called the gravemind?

Yes, it is. You caught me.:p

[1WEBHEAD]

firstly yeah the story i guess was satisfying but nothing too special, the "boss" was a joke in my opinion but i guess you had to kill him for the stories sake, i just wish they put another boss like character in. secondly playing live is a whole other experience, a much better one than the campaign i think they just need to make more maps dammit!! :rolleyes:

also i think bungie would be stupid to stop making halo games because they've made a huge legacy out of it (its their cash cow), if they did continue they would probably stop with the flood and covenant and start with something new and fresh.
that planet at the end looks a bit mechanical who knows what it will be


Yeah, After playing the game on Legendary and stay after the credits, it seems that the sleeping Master Chief and Cortana are heading towards a giant "Star Wars Death Star" looking thing. Very interesting. . .

[1WEBHEAD]

Am I the only one that thinks that the needler is WAAAAYYYY too powerful? ? ? ?

[DF2506]

Well, I'd like to officially announce (lol) that I'm out of Halo 3 multiplayer, for now anyway. I traded in Halo 3 the other day cause I needed the extra cash. I'll prob get it back eventually though. Not sure yet.

I will, however, be on Team Fortress 2 next week sometime most likely. I have the Orange Box on the way (hope it shows up on Monday....).

ALSO: today only (rented it, but have to take it back tommorrow): I have Gears of War! So if anybody wants to play multiplayer on that today, please send me a friend invite.

Team Fortress 2 is the best bet for multiplayer with me next week though.

DF2506

[Xero Kaiser]

Am I the only one that thinks that the needler is WAAAAYYYY too powerful? ? ? ?

Yes
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[SensorBoy]

The planet at the end of the credits (seen in Legendary Mode) is likely to be Onyx (or rather, the core of Onyx), where the Spartan III's and Dr. Halsey are hiding out. That's my guess, anyway.

[1WEBHEAD]

The planet at the end of the credits (seen in Legendary Mode) is likely to be Onyx (or rather, the core of Onyx), where the Spartan III's and Dr. Halsey are hiding out. That's my guess, anyway.

Care to explain? I haven't read the books. . .:o

[twilight]

Am I the only one that thinks that the needler is WAAAAYYYY too powerful? ? ? ?

It's probably just my newbieness but I've been playing the game a bit on my friends 360 and I've never managed to kill him with the needler ever.

I'd much rather smack him in the face with a gun anyway.

-Twi

[SensorBoy]

Care to explain? I haven't read the books. . .:o

Here goes (condensed version):

The SPARTAN IIIs are the next-gen version of the IIs (obviously), but made quicker and cheaper (and more expendable). They are all ~12-14 years old when they become operational (ophans recruited from colonies that got glassed by the Covenant) and are trained in companies of 300, then usually all get killed on their first op (happened to three companies so far).
They use EVA armor, not Mjolnir (too expensive and takes to long to learn how to use it), so less protection than the IIs have (no shields, either).
Their mods are slightly different than the IIs, including heightened aggression. They have to take antipsychotic meds or they get a little zany.

They were created and trained on an ONI planet: "Onyx". Onyx turned out to be a Forerunner hideout, and the core was a Dyson Sphere with a portal leading to a "Shieldworld", where the Halo-weapon's pulses couldn't reach.

Big 3-way battle between the UNSC, Covenant and Sentinels takes place. The survivors of the SPARTAN III Gamma Company meet up with Doctor Elizabeth Halsey (created Cortana and the SPARTAN program, looks like Cortana, only older and human) and a few surviving SPARTAN IIs. They get chased into the portal to the "Shieldworld", and the Dyson Sphere locks itself behind them.

The end so far.

[1WEBHEAD]

Here goes (condensed version):

The SPARTAN IIIs are the next-gen version of the IIs (obviously), but made quicker and cheaper (and more expendable). They are all ~12-14 years old when they become operational (ophans recruited from colonies that got glassed by the Covenant) and are trained in companies of 300, then usually all get killed on their first op (happened to three companies so far).
They use EVA armor, not Mjolnir (too expensive and takes to long to learn how to use it), so less protection than the IIs have (no shields, either).
Their mods are slightly different than the IIs, including heightened aggression. They have to take antipsychotic meds or they get a little zany.

They were created and trained on an ONI planet: "Onyx". Onyx turned out to be a Forerunner hideout, and the core was a Dyson Sphere with a portal leading to a "Shieldworld", where the Halo-weapon's pulses couldn't reach.

Big 3-way battle between the UNSC, Covenant and Sentinels takes place. The survivors of the SPARTAN III Gamma Company meet up with Doctor Elizabeth Halsey (created Cortana and the SPARTAN program, looks like Cortana, only older and human) and a few surviving SPARTAN IIs. They get chased into the portal to the "Shieldworld", and the Dyson Sphere locks itself behind them.

The end so far.



Thanks. I wonder if there will ever be a another Halo:

how will MC help out the lost Spartans.

[Karl H]

I saw something very nice in terms of AI last night. I don't know if it was deliberate or a quirk of the game.

When playing the level on High Charity, one of the spider like Flood ran into the barricade I was hiding behind to move it, leaving me exposed to the needle like things from the other Flood. Was pretty clever all things considered

[Jared_Humpherys]

I have no idea where the Gold Skull in the Ark level is.

[1WEBHEAD]

I have no idea where the Gold Skull in the Ark level is.

You should check youtube.

There are like 50 videos covering where all the skulls and terminal locations are.:)

[Jared_Humpherys]

You should check youtube.

There are like 50 videos covering where all the skulls and terminal locations are.:)

You are so right.

Thanks!

[1WEBHEAD]

You are so right.

Thanks!

Glad I could help a fellow Halo player snag those achievements.:)

[Sonicjuce]

Am I the only one that thinks that the needler is WAAAAYYYY too powerful? ? ? ?

It sure is. Thats why it is a great weapon finally

[bigman45]

hmmm the halo book they were good reads might i add.... but i don't understand is that the ghost of onyex don't add up to whats going on in halo3 right now they are too diffrent story lines if any thing it should pick up after the halo wars or right after halo 1 :eek:

[asloveislost]

Am I the only one that thinks that the needler is WAAAAYYYY too powerful? ? ? ?

maybe i'll go back to playing halo 2 online to get double needlers.

[1WEBHEAD]

Okay, this game is too awesome for this thread to die.

Anyone want to share some "Halo War stories" with us? :o

[Karl H]

Er I'm stuck on Legendary in Voi.

15 Brutes, 2 of whom have Fuel Rod Guns and a frikkin' tank. A tank.

It's so far taken me 4 hours to attempt to beat 1 checkpoint. How could people beat this game on this level in 6 hours? I consider myself an above average (but not exceptional) gamer too!

[1WEBHEAD]

Er I'm stuck on Legendary in Voi.

15 Brutes, 2 of whom have Fuel Rod Guns and a frikkin' tank. A tank.

It's so far taken me 4 hours to attempt to beat 1 checkpoint. How could people beat this game on this level in 6 hours? I consider myself an above average (but not exceptional) gamer too!

Its alot easier with 3 other friends backing you up. :)

Three of you guys tackle the bad guys head on while one guy hides in a safe area and breaks out the long range weapons.

[Karl H]

Its alot easier with 3 other friends backing you up. :)

Three of you guys tackle the bad guys head on while one guy hides in a safe area and breaks out the long range weapons.

Pfft. I'm flying solo on this one.

[aut0matic]

Pfft. I'm flying solo on this one.

yeah i played through the entire campaign on legendary by myself (don't have xbox live :evilangry ) and i remember having trouble with that part. i tried and tried to take them all out with the sniper rifle, but there isn't enough ammo to take out both waves of brutes. so i tried another approach: run like hell. run, jump, throw grenades, anything to push past the brutes and get to the next checkpoint. i know it doesn't sound very honorable, but the "get the hell out of dodge" technique really pulled me out of some tough spots :D

[1WEBHEAD]

yeah i played through the entire campaign on legendary by myself (don't have xbox live :evilangry ) and i remember having trouble with that part. i tried and tried to take them all out with the sniper rifle, but there isn't enough ammo to take out both waves of brutes. so i tried another approach: run like hell. run, jump, throw grenades, anything to push past the brutes and get to the next checkpoint. i know it doesn't sound very honorable, but the "get the hell out of dodge" technique really pulled me out of some tough spots :D

Heh. :D

well it's kinda hard to out run a brute or grunt when they're in a speeding chopper and/or Ghost. :D

[Fatguy]

So, I tried my hand at some X-Box live action, and the results were mediocre at best ;)

It was fun though. Except the event where you carry the ball or skull or whatever. I could never manage to hang onto it for more than 1 second at a time. I once picked it up 7 times, for a total of 9 seconds possession time. Not so hot.

Did decent enough for a newb on Slayer and King of the Hill.

[Karl H]

yeah i played through the entire campaign on legendary by myself (don't have xbox live :evilangry ) and i remember having trouble with that part. i tried and tried to take them all out with the sniper rifle, but there isn't enough ammo to take out both waves of brutes. so i tried another approach: run like hell. run, jump, throw grenades, anything to push past the brutes and get to the next checkpoint. i know it doesn't sound very honorable, but the "get the hell out of dodge" technique really pulled me out of some tough spots :D

Yeah I thought about that. I keep getting sniped. I need to find time to put it together!

[asloveislost]

ahh i'd play halo 3 campaign again from the start to finish except im dreading that stupid level where you're inside high charity?? and its been turned into a flood homeworld.
soo annoying, plus the gravemind always speaks to you.... whatta fag, slows me down.

[Sonicjuce]

Anyone want to play some team games I am decent. Send a friend request to Sonicjuce. I could use some more people. I hate having partys of three in team slayer.

[MarvelKnight]

I played Halo3 a few times, it was interesting. The ending wasn't what I expected.

[asloveislost]

It was sort of an ending for the trilogy and a setup for halo4 which they better make...

[MarvelKnight]

If they do, I hope they omit the flood. I'm sick of fighting off the flood.

[Bored at 3:00AM]

The next sequel should be at least five years away and be about the Master Chief and Cortana against lots and lots of robots.

[1WEBHEAD]

If they do, I hope they omit the flood. I'm sick of fighting off the flood.

You and me both dude.

[StreetFighterRyu]

Why take out the flood?:p You want to deal with more brutes instead? lol

[1WEBHEAD]

Why take out the flood?:p You want to deal with more brutes instead? lol

I like the Brutes. They use their equipment wisely and always has a bunch of grunts and snipers behind them. Oh and they always were they're cool armor and ride in those awesome choppers.:D

[StreetFighterRyu]

I like the Brutes. They use their equipment wisely and always has a bunch of grunts and snipers behind them. Oh and they always were they're cool armor and ride in those awesome choppers.:D

Yeah, but it's like, you rather deal with them?:p

[1WEBHEAD]

Yeah, but it's like, you rather deal with them?:p

Yes. Even though I love the game, there is nothing I hate more about Halo 3 than that Flood level. Man, do I despise those spider-flood guys that spit out those needles from the roof.:mad:

[1WEBHEAD]

The #1 reason why you should NOT play Halo 3 (http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZOkF0McZKIw)

[StoneGold]

The #1 reason why you should NOT play Halo 3 (http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZOkF0McZKIw)

Because it inspires crappy Youtube videos?

[1WEBHEAD]

Because it inspires crappy Youtube videos?

Aw, SG, it wasn't THAT bad. . .