Not all X-Women can stabalize pregnancy and use their powers...

[ProfeZZor X]

I was thinking in terms of the safety of the embryo/fetus within the confines of it's mother host, and whether or not it's viable for it to survive, given the nature of it's mother's powers.

For example, it's more viable for a child to be conceived through a female mutant with powers that don't involve a physical metamorphosis through the use of her powers, such as Dust or Mercury. Even so, the child would have to be incubated (in the womb) through a conventional method of flesh, rather than some "bio-material". And I say this only because there have been no instances (that I recall) where a mutant baby takes on the properties or nature of it's mother's mutant powers while still in the womb.

There are thousands of scenarios I could think of where a mutant mother's powers could jepardize her unborn child through the use of her powers... (Electricity, phasing, high altitudes, unstable motions, high pressures, etc.) Does this mean to say that the mother would have to refrain from using her powers during the entire course of her pregnancy?

What do you think?

[CMBMOOL]

I have little understand with what you just stated, but I believe that if a mutant woman is pregent then they should stay on the sidelines until the day of birth. :(

[Brian M.]

I'll be back w/ an answer around lunch time. Gotta make sure it's perfect.

[jarrod]

And I say this only because there have been no instances (that I recall) where a mutant baby takes on the properties or nature of it's mother's mutant powers while still in the womb.
No, be we saw Xaiver first manifest his abilities in the womb. I'd say it's possible that the fetus might be able to cope with it's mother's abilities, especially if it manifests the same powerset.

[TinMan]

No, be we saw Xaiver first manifest his abilities in the womb. I'd say it's possible that the fetus might be able to cope with it's mother's abilities, especially if it manifests the same powerset.

I agree. I mean, technically speaking, the unborn child is still attached to the mother by the umbilical cord and contained within her womb. You could chalk it up as a biological "buffer", like a further evolutionary step that had occur in order for the race to continue.

I do think that certain situations the mother could be put in because of her powers would cause issues with the pregnancy, such as physical overextertion, but that's something that can affect all mothers.

[ProfeZZor X]

No, be we saw Xaiver first manifest his abilities in the womb. I'd say it's possible that the fetus might be able to cope with it's mother's abilities, especially if it manifests the same powerset.

I'm not talking about a child using it's powers in the womb. I'm talking about the MOTHER using her powers and jepardizing the child within her. And besides, Xavier's mother was human, not a mutant.

[Sentinel K]

It's an intereseting question with no definite answer. This is fiction after all.

But as tinman said, the baby is attatched to the mother via the umbilical cord and so is essentially part of her.

But who knows?

What about Mystique? If she was pregnant, what would happen if she changed into a man? or dies she only take on EXTERNAL male charactersistics? maybe she would still have all the female gear?


In conclusion: Don't think about it, you will have a breakdown.

[jarrod]

I'm not talking about a child using it's powers in the womb. I'm talking about the MOTHER using her powers and jepardizing the child within her. And besides, Xavier's mother was human, not a mutant.
Sure, but if the fetus can simultaneously manifest... then what's the problem? It's not like the fetus has to eat or breathe for itself, why wouldn't the mother's systems direct this sort of interplay as well?

[Volk1]

I think it's called ADAPTING. If Mercury ever has a baby, she'll be able to have a baby. Not because it's fiction, but because her baby will biologically have to transform into living within Mercury's bio/life system.

Unless it will be stated that Mercry could never ever have a baby, anything is feasible, with mutants especially.

[Waterlily]

Being pregnant (with my third), this has been something I've wondered about. There's a lot that can go wrong with a "normal" human pregnancy. It's complicated stuff - if you know what all has to happen to get pregnant and what happens to a gal's body to stay pregnant (not reject the baby as a foreign body) - it's really astounding that babies are born at all.

If Kitty were to phase while pregnant I'd assume the baby would phase as well, but would there be a strain on the unborn? Kitty can't breath while she's phased, right? Or how does that work? And since the mother is supplying blood/oxygen/food to the baby how would that work if she turns to some other form (i.e. Dust)? Assuming here that the unborn baby is human, and someone like Dust can't turn someone else to a different form - would she be unable/unwilling to use her powers? Would the baby turn into the dust form and back with her regardless of whether or not said baby was human?

As for mutants like Mercury to conceive, seeing how she has no circulatory system, the baby would have to start off mutant just to be able to be there at all. I can't see how she'd concieve and carry a human child without being able to provide blood (does she even eat?). I'm not saying she couldn't get pregnant or reproduce in some fashion, just that her pregnancy/baby would be umm... really different. Sort like how Angel laid eggs different.

I wish the X-books had touched more on pregnancy in mutants. I always thought it was sort of weird that in the school, there's only been a couple of pregnancies. All I can recall is Angel. At my highschool, and others that I've visited, there's always been at least one pregnancy happening at any given time. Are mutants just that much better at taking contraceptives?

Then again kids born to x-men/mutants usually end up kidnapped to the future, rapidly aged, or disappeared in some fashion cause X-writers don't know what to do with mutant baby.

[ProfeZZor X]

I think it's called ADAPTING. If Mercury ever has a baby, she'll be able to have a baby. Not because it's fiction, but because her baby will biologically have to transform into living within Mercury's bio/life system.

Unless it will be stated that Mercry could never ever have a baby, anything is feasible, with mutants especially.

As it's been proven in the past, mutants can give birth to regular humans.

But humoring your notion, who's to say that 1) the baby would have the same mutation as Mercury, and 2) be able to survive if she stretched herself into a thin tubular shape.

[LordAllMighty]

I think it's called ADAPTING. If Mercury ever has a baby, she'll be able to have a baby. Not because it's fiction, but because her baby will biologically have to transform into living within Mercury's bio/life system.

I agree. If the baby is able to live pass the first month within the mother's womb, then more then likely it is immune to her powers.

Unless their trying to have a kid, most women are not aware of the pregnancy until they miss their period. So, more then likely, any X-Woman would have used her power several times before she became aware of pregnancy.

[GoingGreen]

Here's my theory on Mercury getting preggers:

She doesn't need food or drink to survive, that's already been established. However, she eats and drinks anyway, just to feel normal.

We don't know about her breathing: whether she needs to or not, but we know that toxins and things of the like do not effect her (IE: Laurie's pheremones, etc.). This probably leads to the fact that Cess does not need air to survive, but we can't be certain until it's established cannonically.

If Cessily still has her reproductive properties (vagina, uterus, etc) and she produces an egg that can be fertilized, it is inevitable that these organs are made of mercury, as her ENTIRE body was transformed into the metal, aside from her hair.

Essentially, if she were able to get pregnant, the baby would inevitably be made of Mercury. While it might not have the ability to shape shift like Cessily, it would be a mutate. It might not even be a mutant, just a mutate.

All this being said, though, I don't think Cessily can get pregnant. EDIT: I take that back.

I just remembered that she's able to cry. She has hair, has the ability to cry, so now I'm thinking... she can produce an egg. Maybe she would need someone of similar structure to fertilize the egg, though. Hmm...

As for Dust? I suspect the baby would die the second she tried transforming into the substance.

[Pro]

Babies are parasites feeding off their hostbody. Transforming doesn't affect bacteria either or transforming mutants would run into some serious trouble (digestion for example) so i think babies are safe as long as they are part of their mother's biological system.

The exception might be regenerators like x-23 whose body might view a baby as a foreign parasite feeding on the mutant's body.

[GoingGreen]

I don't think regenerators would have a problem. They're able to preform natural bodily functions with no problem. Pregnancy is a part of nature.

[The Sword Is Drawn]

I don't think regenerators would have a problem. They're able to preform natural bodily functions with no problem. Pregnancy is a part of nature.

But on the other hand, in the case of a regenerator, the body might see the baby as a parasite, and try to purge it from its system.

[ProfeZZor X]

Being pregnant (with my third), this has been something I've wondered about. There's a lot that can go wrong with a "normal" human pregnancy. It's complicated stuff - if you know what all has to happen to get pregnant and what happens to a gal's body to stay pregnant (not reject the baby as a foreign body) - it's really astounding that babies are born at all.

If Kitty were to phase while pregnant I'd assume the baby would phase as well, but would there be a strain on the unborn? Kitty can't breath while she's phased, right? Or how does that work? And since the mother is supplying blood/oxygen/food to the baby how would that work if she turns to some other form (i.e. Dust)? Assuming here that the unborn baby is human, and someone like Dust can't turn someone else to a different form - would she be unable/unwilling to use her powers? Would the baby turn into the dust form and back with her regardless of whether or not said baby was human?

As for mutants like Mercury to conceive, seeing how she has no circulatory system, the baby would have to start off mutant just to be able to be there at all. I can't see how she'd concieve and carry a human child without being able to provide blood (does she even eat?). I'm not saying she couldn't get pregnant or reproduce in some fashion, just that her pregnancy/baby would be umm... really different. Sort like how Angel laid eggs different.

I wish the X-books had touched more on pregnancy in mutants. I always thought it was sort of weird that in the school, there's only been a couple of pregnancies. All I can recall is Angel. At my highschool, and others that I've visited, there's always been at least one pregnancy happening at any given time. Are mutants just that much better at taking contraceptives?

Then again kids born to x-men/mutants usually end up kidnapped to the future, rapidly aged, or disappeared in some fashion cause X-writers don't know what to do with mutant baby.

You touched on exactly what I wanted to convey. I just didn't want to get specific with any particular mutants, as this question is generalized. But to be to the point, the mutants you mentioned in your post are exactly who I was thinking of that inspired me to create this thread.

[Pro]

Pregnancy is a part of nature.

So is a heartattack, a stroke, a bacterial infection.

[The Cool Thatguy]

I'd think that characters like Mercury, characters who can't rransform back to their human forms from inanimate substances (no little Santo, I'd bet), wouldn't be able to reproduce given the lack of required organs, while those who can shift back and forth wouldn't be in as much danger.

It's not like Dust, Emma, et all suffer any olng term health effects from their altered forms.

The shape shifters would be another question, though. Mystique's the obvious one, but what about Wolfsbane? Would the child be able to survive if she had to change into a wolf?

[GoingGreen]

So is a heartattack, a stroke, a bacterial infection.

Our bodies are designed for reproducing. Our bodies are not designed for heart attacks and strokes. Human nature, my friend. You should've taken that out of context. Most women go through pregnancy. Most people do not go through heart attacks and strokes.

[Schuimend Mormel]

Being pregnant (with my third), this has been something I've wondered about. There's a lot that can go wrong with a "normal" human pregnancy. It's complicated stuff - if you know what all has to happen to get pregnant and what happens to a gal's body to stay pregnant (not reject the baby as a foreign body) - it's really astounding that babies are born at all.

Congratulations! How far along are you? Honestly, I wish you and the baby all the best. :)


If Kitty were to phase while pregnant I'd assume the baby would phase as well, but would there be a strain on the unborn? Kitty can't breath while she's phased, right? Or how does that work? And since the mother is supplying blood/oxygen/food to the baby how would that work if she turns to some other form (i.e. Dust)? Assuming here that the unborn baby is human, and someone like Dust can't turn someone else to a different form - would she be unable/unwilling to use her powers? Would the baby turn into the dust form and back with her regardless of whether or not said baby was human?

As for mutants like Mercury to conceive, seeing how she has no circulatory system, the baby would have to start off mutant just to be able to be there at all. I can't see how she'd concieve and carry a human child without being able to provide blood (does she even eat?). I'm not saying she couldn't get pregnant or reproduce in some fashion, just that her pregnancy/baby would be umm... really different. Sort like how Angel laid eggs different.


And all I ever wondered about is how teleporters and phasing characters like Kitty coped with dust or germs getting stuck between their molecules after using their powers (although teleporters sometimes dimensionally displace the air when they port, of course :) ).

The structural change of a body, as with Colossus, Emma Frost, Mercury, etc, would seemingly turn any internal system of organisms within the body upside down, but, as Pro stated, the bacteria in the bodies of mutants are apparently unaffected by any transformations. So, I think we can assume that when Kitty phases or when Emma turns to diamond, their bodies take their full inventory of benevolent bacteria into some internal chamber. Or in Kitty's case, she may subconsciously just phase all of them along with her.

As for Mercury, I wouldn't know how it would go down. There's another factor that must be taken into consideration, and that is that not every mutation will be useful in each situation. No offence, but in and of itself, mutation springs from error. In real life, quite a lot of mutant individuals die because their mutation hampers them in some way. And even though Marvel superpower mutation is a far piece from the real thing, there are still parallels. Chamber maimed himself with his power. Rogue can't touch anyone. There are other examples. So, I think it is possible that some mutants are born that -because of their powers- are no longer capable of carrying a child.
Because of the change in their bodily structure, or because of what would happen if they used their powers during pregnancy, as stated above.

But on the other hand, in the case of a regenerator, the body might see the baby as a parasite, and try to purge it from its system.

I don't think that would happen. The brain and body of a mutant like X-23 would recognise the baby for what it is, and would continue to feed it. Only if something would go wrong during pregnancy would the body mistake the baby for a parasite and try to purge it.


The shape shifters would be another question, though. Mystique's the obvious one, but what about Wolfsbane? Would the child be able to survive if she had to change into a wolf?

This depends on to what extent Wolfsbane's internal systems are altered in her transformation. Her wolf body is still very close to her human body -anatomically- so, while the transformation might be a strain, the womb and the baby would be preserved, I wager.

[Waterlily]

Congratulations! How far along are you? Honestly, I wish you and the baby all the best. :)

The brain and body of a mutant like X-23 would recognise the baby for what it is, and would continue to feed it. Only if something would go wrong during pregnancy would the body mistake the baby for a parasite and try to purge it.



I'm eight monthes now, thankyou for your kind words! :)

Since the Native's pregnancy was going okay (for the whole day or so she was pregnant) I'll assume regenerators can carry a child. Something that comes to my mind, though, when it comes to healing factors and pregnancy is first being able to concieve at all. Back in the old Batman cartoon Poison Ivy use to lament over not being able to get pregnant because of her advanced immune system. Even the normal human body attacks sperm as an invading body. So maybe the only reason the Native got preggers at all is cause Wolvie was the dad.

[HellFrost]

What about Emma? If she transformed into Diamond Form while pregnant, would the baby survive? Is there a chance the baby can't transform, or can't handle the strain of transforming into a rock hard substance?

And Congradulations Waterlily! :)

[ProfeZZor X]

What about Emma? If she transformed into Diamond Form while pregnant, would the baby survive? Is there a chance the baby can't transform, or can't handle the strain of transforming into a rock hard substance?

And Congradulations Waterlily! :)

I would imagine that Emma would be able to use her mind powers, but not her diamond transformations.

As for Storm, I'm not too sure she should fly around or use her body to conduct electricity through it if she was pregnant.

I wonder what the effects would be like if Rogue absorbed someone while pregnant. :confused:

[HellFrost]

I would imagine that Emma would be able to use her mind powers, but not her diamond transformations.

As for Storm, I'm not too sure she should fly around or use her body to conduct electricity through it if she was pregnant.

I wonder what the effects would be like if Rogue absorbed someone while pregnant. :confused:

I think Emma could use Telepathy aswell, but not her Diamond Form. You bring up a really good point with Storm.

As for Rogue. What's to say her powers wouldn't immediately activate on her own child? I imagine her and her baby could be greatly affected by the stress of her power.

[The Cool Thatguy]

I'm eight monthes now, thankyou for your kind words! :)

Since the Native's pregnancy was going okay (for the whole day or so she was pregnant) I'll assume regenerators can carry a child. Something that comes to my mind, though, when it comes to healing factors and pregnancy is first being able to concieve at all. Back in the old Batman cartoon Poison Ivy use to lament over not being able to get pregnant because of her advanced immune system. Even the normal human body attacks sperm as an invading body. So maybe the only reason the Native got preggers at all is cause Wolvie was the dad.

Well, with Poison Ivy, I think it was due more to the toxins in her body than advanced healing abilities. I've never seen her heal especially fast, but a touch of hers can kill.

[HellFrost]

Well, with Poison Ivy, I think it was due more to the toxins in her body than advanced healing abilities. I've never seen her heal especially fast, but a touch of hers can kill.

Poison Ivy is a good example for characters with healing factors. Ivy's body healed over the fetus as if it were healing a parasite.

[Waterlily]

As for Storm, I'm not too sure she should fly around or use her body to conduct electricity through it if she was pregnant.


Maybe because Storm's body is equipped and use to changing elevations, flying around and such, it wouldn't be to risky. I don't think there's enough changes in atmospheric pressures that would be harmful towards her baby, as long as she slowed it down a bit.

That makes me think of speedsters, such as Aurora. I can't even ride anything remotely fun at an amusement park when I'm pregnant. Something to do with g-forces. My body of course can withstand the force from a rollercoaster, but baby's body can't and my body provides no protection from that sort of thing. Would someone's mutation, like Aurora's, also protect their unborn somehow?

Also, if Storm's baby was human, I'd think conducting electricity through her body would be a big no-no.

[Callisto]

but considering how these babies are an extension of the mutant mothers. it would stand to reason that they would pretty much be able to morph into whatever substance there mother changes into while attatched to the unbilical cord and still in the womb. although i think that probably wouldn't work for people like dust or mercury...i doubt mercury can really get pregnant to begin with...well maybe by colossus and his metalic sperm.

[CE_Rap]

I think a lot of it depends on creativity, since these ARE fictional circumstances.

For example: I can imagine Rogue being pregnant and being in a situation where the baby is born premature because Rogue's powers can't stop siphoning life from it, even though it's a part of her. THen again, I can see the baby being a ..."Kill-crop" was it...in teh sense that it's designed with a power that counters that ability instantly. She can touch Colossus when he's metal, so maybe she'd give birth to a baby made of organic metal. OR---how about this---she's born having twins, but her powers siphon off the first baby (to her chagrin), but the power sap lasts well into the pregnancy, and only effects that ONE baby. The other baby is completely fine.

It really depends on who's approaching this. Some writers wouldn't bother explaining it, some would dig deeper to have it make sense.

I agree with everyone who said Mercury can't conceive. I think the argument that her mutation "maims" her in that regard is an accurate one. As with her tears--I guess it depends on the artist, but i always interpreted that as (this might sound retarded), the metal beneath her eyes "running." Visually, it would appear that she's "crying," but it's more like her emotions produce this effect subconsciously when they are intense enough. You gotta figure that her hair functions more like a wig----as in, if she cut it, it wouldn't grow back. I doubt that it's even growing anymore.

I think Mystique wouldn't morph through pregnancy. You'd imagine that the many times that she's been pregnant, she's been "incognito," so that could add to her not morphing. Maybe it's incredibly painful to morph with the baby, so whatever form she's in (especially when she has an actual fetus in her belly), she just stays that way.

I dunno---I think that unless the kid is born like Jamie Madrox (in terms of having powers in the womb---i know his folks were human) and are born with a power that negates the mom's powers, it would seem feasible that the body of a mutant would "turn-off" the powers of said mutant mother.

As in, that would be nature's way of allowing mutants to reproduce normally. And if she gets into a position where she wills her powers back on---then boom! the baby's dead. I'd put a lot of female mutants in this category.

Kitty's baby would probably phase with her. I think it would definitely pose some risk, and would be a painful phase. But let's say that if she HAD to phase for a moment, it wouldn't kill the baby right then and there. She probably just couldn't abuse it even a little, though.

[Schuimend Mormel]

You make a couple of good points, CE Rap, but I have to take the discussion to the side and ask you -and HellFrost- :

Why would Rogue's powers siphon her embryo? I thought her absorbing powers worked through her skin, not her entire body.

[Pro]

Given that Rogue had a child in AoA the question whether rogue would or would not syphon her child has already been answered.

I thought her absorbing powers worked through her skin, not her entire body.

It works through touch but it has never been established whether it is solely skin-to-skin. Although i don't think her hair has the effect of absorbing power so not sure really.

[CE_Rap]

And I gotta discount a lot of what people could do/did in AOA for the most part. She was a COMPLETELY different person, and was far more mentally sane then OUR Rogue. For all we know, she had some of Magneto's powers, and so the baby had an EM bubble protecting it.

Na, it's skin to skin. No "hair absorption" abilities. Now, can you count her Tongue as "skin to skin?" If she licks you, does that count as absorption too? I mean when she kisses, it's the lip contact that gets you. But what if she just licks you? (weird visual i'm getting--but i'm really asking). Maybe if that was known, we'd know for sure if a baby's life would be absorbed or not.

Even if she didn't--I imagine it'd be a depressing endeavor, not even being able to touch your baby without a buffer of some kind.

To answer your question Schuimend Mormel (congrats an the baby too:D ), I think Rogue absorbing life from her kid (at the risk of adding to her angst) is just me throwing ideas out. I think it'd be an interesting idea to envision if she was pregnant. For all we know, the baby would mimic her powers to a TEE, and end up siphoning life from Rogue--(not just nutrients like a normal baby). Maybe she'd end up giving birth, but dying from it too.

I think the only thing i stand by absolutely is what said before:

I dunno---I think that unless the kid is born like Jamie Madrox (in terms of having powers in the womb---i know his folks were human) and are born with a power that negates the mom's powers, it would seem feasible that the body of a mutant would "turn-off" the powers of said mutant mother.

As in, that would be nature's way of allowing mutants to reproduce normally. And if she gets into a position where she wills her powers back on---then boom! the baby's dead. I'd put a lot of female mutants in this category.

[ProfeZZor X]

but considering how these babies are an extension of the mutant mothers. it would stand to reason that they would pretty much be able to morph into whatever substance there mother changes into while attatched to the unbilical cord and still in the womb. although i think that probably wouldn't work for people like dust or mercury...i doubt mercury can really get pregnant to begin with...well maybe by colossus and his metalic sperm.

That's a ridiculous assumption... Mystique gave birth to a human child, Graydon Creed. So how would it be that a mutant's child could produce the same effects inside the womb? She also gave birth to Nightcrawler. His powers are nowhere near what Mystique can do, so right there that debunks your theory on mutant babies being able to duplicate their mother's powers from within the womb.

Xavier is the only known mutant to use his powers from within his mother... A human mother at that. With the exception of the younger Morlocks (when they existed), and a few other mutants bearing children, we can only assume that they take precautions during pregnancy. And don't forget, unborn children, mutant or human, only need their mothers for sustaining themselves with the basic nutritional needs like all children. And with that said, I don't think a mutant mother could "pass along" her mutant abilities to her unborn child in order for it to survive what she does with her own powers in the outside world.

Maybe because Storm's body is equipped and use to changing elevations, flying around and such, it wouldn't be to risky. I don't think there's enough changes in atmospheric pressures that would be harmful towards her baby, as long as she slowed it down a bit.

There's a reason why signs are posted in public places that prohibit pregnant women from doing certain things, such as riding airplanes, going on roller coasters, inhailing fumes and so forth. Storm flies at great speeds and heights, and she also creates high pressure winds in order to sustain herself in the air. With the assumption that her unborn child doesn't have the ability to protect itself in her womb, we can safely say that it's succeptible to the same dangers as a human baby would endure.

[Schuimend Mormel]

Na, it's skin to skin. No "hair absorption" abilities. Now, can you count her Tongue as "skin to skin?" If she licks you, does that count as absorption too? I mean when she kisses, it's the lip contact that gets you. But what if she just licks you? (weird visual i'm getting--but i'm really asking). Maybe if that was known, we'd know for sure if a baby's life would be absorbed or not.


That's what I've been wondering. I figured Rogue's powers were that she had a system of pores and little ducts in her skin that take away the powers of other mutants through skin contact. Yeah, it would be interesting to see whether Rogue could absorb via her tongue or not. I think she couldn't. But I may be completely wrong.


To answer your question Schuimend Mormel (congrats an the baby too:D ), I think Rogue absorbing life from her kid (at the risk of adding to her angst) is just me throwing ideas out. I think it'd be an interesting idea to envision if she was pregnant. For all we know, the baby would mimic her powers to a TEE, and end up siphoning life from Rogue--(not just nutrients like a normal baby). Maybe she'd end up giving birth, but dying from it too.

Whoa, are you congratulating ME? Thanks, but Waterlily's the one with the baby on the way. I'm twenty years old, babies are not QUITE on my horizon. :D

And one more thing on Rogue's hypothetical embryo... Rogue manifested her powers during puberty. We MAY assume that her child -if it's inherited her absorbing powers- would also manifest these powers in puberty. Because, at least for Rogue's powers, that would be the natural way of development. Unless, of course, the baby's an exception to the rule.


I think the only thing i stand by absolutely is what said before:

I dunno---I think that unless the kid is born like Jamie Madrox (in terms of having powers in the womb---i know his folks were human) and are born with a power that negates the mom's powers, it would seem feasible that the body of a mutant would "turn-off" the powers of said mutant mother.

As in, that would be nature's way of allowing mutants to reproduce normally. And if she gets into a position where she wills her powers back on---then boom! the baby's dead. I'd put a lot of female mutants in this category.

Sounds like a credible mechanism. I was wondering if it wouldn't take too long for mutants to evolve such an intricate system of power negation in the baby, but then I remembered... in these comics, someone like Warren gets fully functional feathered wings without any prior evolution stages, so like you said before, this IS fiction we're talking about.

That's a ridiculous assumption... Mystique gave birth to a human child, Graydon Creed. So how would it be that a mutant's child could produce the same effects inside the womb? She also gave birth to Nightcrawler. His powers are nowhere near what Mystique can do, so right there that debunks your theory on mutant babies being able to duplicate their mother's powers from within the womb.

Xavier is the only known mutant to use his powers from within his mother... A human mother at that. With the exception of the younger Morlocks (when they existed), and a few other mutants bearing children, we can only assume that they take precautions during pregnancy. And don't forget, unborn children, mutant or human, only need their mothers for sustaining themselves with the basic nutritional needs like all children. And with that said, I don't think a mutant mother could "pass along" her mutant abilities to her unborn child in order for it to survive what she does with her own powers in the outside world.


I probably should let Callisto respond to this, but I think you're too quick to brush off her comments as 'ridiculous'. She was mainly talking about mutants who change their substance. Not about babies of mutants manifesting powers while in the womb, but the mother -having the ability to change her substance into, say, water, magma, sand- would change her baby's substance simultaneously as well, because they're linked by the placenta and the umbellical cord.

Of course, there's the question of what danger such transformations would pose to the baby's body.

[CE_Rap]

That's what I've been wondering. I figured Rogue's powers were that she had a system of pores and little ducts in her skin that take away the powers of other mutants through skin contact. Yeah, it would be interesting to see whether Rogue could absorb via her tongue or not. I think she couldn't. But I may be completely wrong.


hey, maybe. I think you could argue the point for sure. 's why I brought it up^^


Whoa, are you congratulating ME? Thanks, but Waterlily's the one with the baby on the way. I'm twenty years old, babies are not QUITE on my horizon. :D

ooops....thowy (*sorry in gibberish:o )

And one more thing on Rogue's hypothetical embryo... Rogue manifested her powers during puberty. We MAY assume that her child -if it's inherited her absorbing powers- would also manifest these powers in puberty. Because, at least for Rogue's powers, that would be the natural way of development. Unless, of course, the baby's an exception to the rule.

True indeed. That's why i threw out the idea that her baby might be a kill crop, like Jamie Madrox. It'd be born with a natural defense of some sort (I mentioned a "colossus/steel" lookin' baby:p .

Assuming of course her powers sap her baby---again, that was just a thought that i think could be interesting to see if ever made into a real story. Now if she can lick someone and not absorb them, then it's logical that she wouldn't sap her baby at all.

[jarrod]

As for Rogue. What's to say her powers wouldn't immediately activate on her own child? I imagine her and her baby could be greatly affected by the stress of her power.
Actually, how did Rogue have a kid in AOA? Was it ever mentioned specifically?

I'd imagine the fetus would likely develop some sort of natural immunity to her abilities... though it'd be interesting to see if they lasted once it was born.

[Dracon]

I have a vague memory that it was mentioned that Magneto had managed to arrange it. I could easily be wrong, but I don't think she could touch the baby once he was born.

"God loves, Man kills" featured a flashback to a mutant birth where the babys powers killed the mother, didn't it? Or am I misremembering that one too?

There is also the possibility of a human baby aqquiring powers from the environment it developed in. Humans in the marvel U have occasionally developed powers from unusual cicumstances. Is Peter Parker can be bitten by a radioactive spider, and get spider powers, it is not too far-fetched that a 9-month immersion course in superpowers with biological buffers could occasionally result in a nonmutant super.

Or there could be the occasional baby with the minor ability of resistance of immunity to the mothers powers. Magmas baby could end up with heat-invulnerability.

Nature could also have provided a number of interesting solutions for the problem:

Expectant mothers can lose access to powers that would harm the baby.

Babys subject to harm from the environment may be rejected before they get the opporunity to develop.

The mothers body could automatically protect the baby.

[ProfeZZor X]

Nature could also have provided a number of interesting solutions for the problem:

Expectant mothers can lose access to powers that would harm the baby.

Babys subject to harm from the environment may be rejected before they get the opporunity to develop.

The mothers body could automatically protect the baby.

That's an interesting theory you have there... Seeing that most women go through biological and chemical changes when pregancy begins, that seems like a plausible outcome. Though, we would have to look at the past and present scenarios of mutant women being pregnant. Has M been seen using her abilities since she's been pregnant?