Lethal force has been enabled...

[Walter West]

GEEZ, that gave me shivers! The Book of Oa has been rewritten. :eek:

This comic is fantastic!

[Kid Kyoto]

When I saw this title my first thought was how come there was never a 90s comic called Lethal Force?

It would have a claw guy, a gun guy, a ninja chick and a big guy. And it would be awesome.

[Superheroic]

Well the Guradians said Lethal Force against the Sinestro Corps. Dunno if that means lethal force can be used against anyone though.

[Shonuff]

Wow, I thought the cover was just BS but Hal was really using the yellow rings....Earth is screwed something fierce.

[Walter West]

True, it's against the Sinestro Corps, but GEEZ it was a great moment! :eek:

[Green Gardner]

Yeah, I have a bad feeling about this. I mean, not the lethal force bit in and of itself. All I have to say about that one is that it's about damn time. But given how blatantly sinister they're presenting this, it's really looking like they're going to treat it as a step in the wrong direction, and ultimately, the happy ending will involve the Green Lantern Corps going back to acting like they're protecting Candy Land instead of a universe full of supervillains.

Mind you, I like Johns' work a lot, this run especially. But this kid gloves policy, even if he's hardly the first writer to present a no killing rule, just makes me shake my head.

[KirkWarren]

Wonder what the other 10 new rules or laws are going to be. Lethal Force is only one. Dont recall them mentioning others and cant really thing what they woudl be. Maybe higher ring power reserves? They all seem to be running dead on juice pretty quick in most fights.

[CMBMOOL]

You know now that the GL rings are able to kill off the Sinestro corps members, does that mean that when the moment comes will Hal Jordan kill Sinestro, once and for all ? :(

[Raker616]

I don't think Sinestro is going anywhere, he's Hal's nemesis and without him GL and it's mythos isn't as good.

[StoneGold]

You know now that the GL rings are able to kill off the Sinestro corps members, does that mean that when the moment comes will Hal Jordan kill Sinestro, once and for all ? :(

He has killed Sinestro once and for all. Multiple times. Hell, Sinestro has been resurrected just so Hal could kill him again almost immediately. You can't keep a villain with a good mustache down.

[Jack Zodiac]

Wow, I thought the cover was just BS but Hal was really using the yellow rings....Earth is screwed something fierce.

Awesome homage cover.

Mind you, I like Johns' work a lot, this run especially. But this kid gloves policy, even if he's hardly the first writer to present a no killing rule, just makes me shake my head.

There isn't a "no killing" rule, there's a "no lethal force" policy in the rings. Hal couldn't kill Sinestro with his ring, so he snapped his neck. I think what we'll see come out of this is a "lethal force when necessary" policy, like police have. They'd probably shut down if the Lantern wanted to kill somebody, but not when they have to kill somebody.

[Green Gardner]

There isn't a "no killing" rule, there's a "no lethal force" policy in the rings. Hal couldn't kill Sinestro with his ring, so he snapped his neck. I think what we'll see come out of this is a "lethal force when necessary" policy, like police have. They'd probably shut down if the Lantern wanted to kill somebody, but not when they have to kill somebody.
Alright, fair enough. I stated that unclearly...even though I'm not positive that WAS the idea in the instance you mention. Sadly, though I am looking for a copy, I've yet to read the story itself, but I have seen scans, and didn't Hal use one or more rings later in that same story to turn Kilowog into a charred skeleton?

But anyway, yes. I'd be perfectly happy with that as a status quo. Murderous intent rather than the act of killing itself being treated as the problem. I'm just saying that the tone of the story seemed so negative when the Guardians enabled lethal force, I'm not sure if it's going to be treated as anything but a chilling mistake.

[Raker616]

I think that once it backfires on the Guardians, Ganthet will take over and rite the ship because GL's should never use Lethal Force they are powerfull enough not to.

[Green Gardner]

I think that once it backfires on the Guardians, Ganthet will take over and rite the ship because GL's should never use Lethal Force they are powerfull enough not to.
I would submit that the massive cosmic wedgie they're taking right now suggests otherwise.

[CMBMOOL]

He has killed Sinestro once and for all. Multiple times. Hell, Sinestro has been resurrected just so Hal could kill him again almost immediately. You can't keep a villain with a good mustache down.

Good point, because Mustached villains rule. :D

[sabongero]

This is great! It opens up interesting stories in the future for Green Lanterns who will abuse the use of Lethal Force. And then it would be interesting to have that particular Green Lantern in front of a panel. Would it be the Guardians ? Or be composed of veteran Green Lanterns who would decide the punsihment.

[Question_Authority]

The GL rings will only be allowed tio kill Sinestro Corp members, no one else. Thus its just a way to give the GLC a chance since they have been fighting a war practically with one arm tied behind thier collective backs.

[Jack Zodiac]

I would submit that the massive cosmic wedgie they're taking right now suggests otherwise.

Two contributions to their asswhoopin':

The Guardians don't communicate anything with any of their Lanterns, even Salaak, who's supposed to be their records keeper. Being kept in the dark all the time doesn't instill a whole lot of confidence in leadership, and their inactivity has been a problem so much in the past, when they were reborn I swore Ganthet was going to raise them better. Apparently not.

The Corps is still very... green. Ha! Get it!? I rock! There's a whole lot of rookies and very few vets, and the few who've returned haven't been slinging rings in years. Sinestro caught them completely off guard with what is still their greatest weakness. Even when they're outnumbering their opponents, they're getting creamed.

[Green Gardner]

Well, sure. I'm not trying to suggest that this restriction is the primary cause of how painful this has been to watch so far. But this isn't the first time, and I'm sure it won't be the last time a Green Lantern encounters someone who can potentially wipe the floor with them. Sometimes it's because of a unique ability to exploit their weaknesses, like here, or sometimes they're just that scary. But in any of those cases, even if it often might not help anyway, doesn't it make sense to allow the Lantern to throw everything they've got at said villain, if their life is on the line against a true cosmic threat?

Apparently, Lanterns have never gone all out against anything other than robots and inanimate objects. From a general storytelling point of view, I find this jarring. When Guy Gardner authorized excessive force against Superboy Prime, what exactly was that supposed to mean? Still go easy on him, but just be meaner about it? And in this arc specifically, it's definitely gotten in the way, when Natu's free shot at Sinestro was wasted.

I'm just saying, that level of force, among a whole lot of other things, is necessary here. I imagine it will be again at some point in the future.

[steve2275]

GEEZ, that gave me shivers! The Book of Oa has been rewritten. :eek:

This comic is fantastic!

bout damn time those old fools did sumthing right

[Eliseu Gouveia]

When I saw this title my first thought was how come there was never a 90s comic called Lethal Force?

It would have a claw guy, a gun guy, a ninja chick and a big guy. And it would be awesome.

No girls?

Character limit.

[Carter Hall]

I agree that this raises many intersting story avenues, and I have two things I'm curious about now:

1) How did Hal use a GL ring to kill Kilowag in Emerald Twilight?

2) How did Guy Gardner have the authority to grant lethal force to the GL Corps, as a previous post said? Do certain Lanterns have the ability to shut this feature off?

The Corps is still very... green. Ha! Get it!? I rock!

HA! :D

[Raker616]

I'll take a few guesses...

1. Since Hal was possessed by Parallax he may have found a way around that.

2. Gardner is a part of the GL Honor Guard and maybe that is one of the perks.

Anyone else wanna tackle these 2 q's?.

[Jack Zodiac]

1. Marz ignored that aspect of the ring's limitations. Parallax was retconned into possessing Hal over a decade later, so at the time, Marz wouldn't have had a clue about the yellow fear monster. The real reason, I'd assume, is that Marz just wanted to have Hal kill Kilowog to show how far over the edge he'd gone. Comic science logic? Hal's willpower over rode the ring's limitations, I guess.

2. He probably got Guardian approval.